Question:

I am looking to spend no more than $1000 to get some handguns. I'd like to get at least 3 for that (really hoping for 4). I was thinking a .22 (Ruger perhaps), a 9mm (with at least a 15 round magazine capacity) and something with a larger caliber. This is strickly for home defense purposes.

Anyone have any advice on gun types, calibers, manufactures, etc.

Thanks,

Pistole

Forgot to add another question:

Is the National Gunshow in Dec the place to get deals once I figure out what I'm buying? The local gun stores are really high priced. I know I can drive to PA and save at least 10% (and maybe even 20%) if I'm buying at a store so I'm thinking I can get that kind of pricing at the gunshow.

Thanks

Yopu only need two firearms for home defense.


#1.......Browning Hi Power .40 cal. pistol

#2.......Mossburg 12 guage pump shotgun.


Gun show has better prices.

hardworker Wrote:
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> Yopu only need two firearms for home defense.
>
>
> #1.......Browning Hi Power .40 cal. pistol
>
> #2.......Mossburg 12 guage pump shotgun.
>
>
> Gun show has better prices.

Two problems with your selections.

1 I don't think you can get both for 1000 bones.
2 You can have a 357 Magnum and it will do you know good, if you don't practice shooting. Any handgun owner should have a practice gun to shoot with, typcally a 9mm. 9mm ammo is cheap, while other calibers are more expensive.

If your looking for new, there are NO deals out there. Ammo is just as expensive. Deal with it.

Also, I would add .357 revolver.

I would buy only one gun for now and REALLY learn how to shoot. A missed round is wasted ammo. The best gun for home defense is a gun you really know how to shoot.

Pistole Wrote:
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> Question:
>
> I am looking to spend no more than $1000 to get
> some handguns. I'd like to get at least 3 for
> that (really hoping for 4). I was thinking a .22
> (Ruger perhaps), a 9mm (with at least a 15 round
> magazine capacity) and something with a larger
> caliber. This is strickly for home defense
> purposes.
>
> Anyone have any advice on gun types, calibers,
> manufactures, etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pistole

Strictly for home defense, you will need a shotgun. A high caliber pistol (45 or 40) and a 9mm to target shoot for practice. Having these weapons will be useless unless you are used to shooting firearms.

Now what about outside of the home? If you want to get into self defense and not just home defense, it gets even stickier.

Way more details (size of home, apartment or house, expectations, situations you expect to defend against, etc) are needed for the type of recommendations you ask for.

From what you told me. Buy a 9mm and a shotgun. You want more specifics, you need to GIVE more specifics.

hardworker Wrote:
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> Yopu only need two firearms for home defense.
>
>
> #1.......Browning Hi Power .40 cal. pistol
>
> #2.......Mossburg 12 guage pump shotgun.
>
>
> Gun show has better prices.


Thanks for the reply. I have a 7+1 Mossberg JIC. I'm looking strickly for handguns. More than one of us, so I'd like more than one.

As far as gun shows being cheaper, depends on where the gun show you go is. If you go to one in rural PA, it will be cheaper than a gun show in the metro DC area. You can typically negotiate prices on weapons (not usually on handguns, though).

In higher populated and urban areas, the prices tend to be higher since, those areas typically have buyers with more money. Not so in the more rural areas.

But, if you buy from a gun store, you have someplace to go back to if you want to trade up or if you have problems with or questions about the weapon. Not so at a gun show.

GunOwner Wrote:
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>
> Strictly for home defense, you will need a
> shotgun. A high caliber pistol (45 or 40) and a
> 9mm to target shoot for practice. Having these
> weapons will be useless unless you are used to
> shooting firearms.
>
> Now what about outside of the home? If you want
> to get into self defense and not just home
> defense, it gets even stickier.
>
> Way more details (size of home, apartment or
> house, expectations, situations you expect to
> defend against, etc) are needed for the type of
> recommendations you ask for.
>
> From what you told me. Buy a 9mm and a shotgun.
> You want more specifics, you need to GIVE more
> specifics.


Thanks. I'm pretty well set for rifles and have a Mossberg and a Remington o/u for shotguns. I'm thinking .22 and 9mm to save money on ammo and to share rounds between rifles and handguns. I have a couple of .22 rifles. Sometime in the future, might look into a 9mm semiautomatic rifle, again to conserve on ammo costs but have enough rifles/shotguns for now. I currently have only one handgun, a 10 round 9mm.

So specifically, I'd like something with a light recoil (thinking the .22), another higher capacity 9mm and a .40 or larger. I was hoping to get the .22 for somewhere less than $200 if possible, the 9mm for the $300's and having about $500 for the larget caliber. Don't know if that's doable. I'd forgo the 9mm since I already have one but I'd still like at least 3 new reliable handguns for that price.

At the Chantilly Gun Sow in Nov. I saw Ruger 22/45 with 5.5 bbls selling for 259.I saw Ruger SR9's selling for 419.Glocks will be about $100 higher.

Pistole Wrote:
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> GunOwner Wrote:
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>
> >
> > Strictly for home defense, you will need a
> > shotgun. A high caliber pistol (45 or 40) and
> a
> > 9mm to target shoot for practice. Having these
> > weapons will be useless unless you are used to
> > shooting firearms.
> >
> > Now what about outside of the home? If you
> want
> > to get into self defense and not just home
> > defense, it gets even stickier.
> >
> > Way more details (size of home, apartment or
> > house, expectations, situations you expect to
> > defend against, etc) are needed for the type of
> > recommendations you ask for.
> >
> > From what you told me. Buy a 9mm and a shotgun.
>
> > You want more specifics, you need to GIVE more
> > specifics.
>
>
> Thanks. I'm pretty well set for rifles and have a
> Mossberg and a Remington o/u for shotguns. I'm
> thinking .22 and 9mm to save money on ammo and to
> share rounds between rifles and handguns. I have
> a couple of .22 rifles. Sometime in the future,
> might look into a 9mm semiautomatic rifle, again
> to conserve on ammo costs but have enough
> rifles/shotguns for now. I currently have only
> one handgun, a 10 round 9mm.
>
> So specifically, I'd like something with a light
> recoil (thinking the .22), another higher capacity
> 9mm and a .40 or larger. I was hoping to get the
> .22 for somewhere less than $200 if possible, the
> 9mm for the $300's and having about $500 for the
> larget caliber. Don't know if that's doable. I'd
> forgo the 9mm since I already have one but I'd
> still like at least 3 new reliable handguns for
> that price.

Well, I own 4 rifles and 4 handguns. I don't think you will find anything in the price ranges you are looking for. At least not anything I would feel safe about using in a situation where you are thinking about defending your life!

For a 9mm, you are looking at 550 minimum (at least in NOVA) and for a larger caliber, 650 bones.

I think you need to decide how much your life is worth and go from there.

As far as a .22, I fired a colt 45 model that someone had modded to fire .22 with a hair trigger. I never had so much fun firing a weapon! No recoil and because of that I was making a can dance at 35 yards with rapid fire. Gave me respect for the caliber. It may not have near as much stopping power, but if I can empty a clip of .22 into a good target grouping at a rapid rate, who needs one higher caliber shot?

I digress.

You can get a Glock 27 (.40) for around $500. This is the gun I carry, nice and compact.

I agree with shotgun for home defense, but it should be a tactical model that is easier to maneuver than a hunting shotgun.

I wouldnt do the .22. That is more of a target pistol. If you looking for your wife, I would look at the a .32 or .380. These are nice calibers for the dainty arm with little/no recoil.

DONT BUY AT THE GUN SHOW!!!

vaguntrader.com is the best place for firearms in the Commonwealth.

Decide what you want out of a handgun first, then price accordingly.

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I say "fuck" a lot...

There are no stinking deals! Wrote:
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> I wouldnt do the .22. That is more of a target
> pistol. If you looking for your wife, I would
> look at the a .32 or .380. These are nice
> calibers for the dainty arm with little/no recoil.


Thanks. Any recommendation on manufacturer and models? Perferrably something with at least 12 round capacity. If I decide to buy more later, then I might consder a revolver but for now I'm looking at semi-automatic handguns.

Also, .22 rounds are the cheapest to get. How comparible price-wise would .38's be?

There are competively priced guns from local dealers at gunshows. There is a small show this weekend at the Prince William County Fairgrounds. Saturday 9-5 and Sunday 10-4. You can only buy a handgun in your state of residence. Federal law.

The person who taught me how to shoot told me

" a hit with a .22 beats a miss with a .45"


Buy the caliber you can handle.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Aim small miss small, very important fact mentioned above.

Anything you can find at the gun shows or in shops around here you'll find cheaper online even factoring in paying the FFL fee. At least assuming that you're not looking for something unusual. Decide what you want and then wait for a deal at Bud's, etc., or go by what you can get a deal on that fits your purposes. At times you can find some deals locally and, obviously, if they have what you want at a good price you should do that but usually not.

Smith and Wesson has a really nice .22 cal m&p variant out these days. I own one for cheaper range use and to get people started. It's kind of nice to have a .22 on a similar platform, like it feels like a typical higher caliber handgun. My friend owns a beretta neos .22 but it just doesn't feel right to me.

Of course both these are higher than $200, unless you find a good deal on something used I think you need to raise your budget just a tad if you are trying to buy 3 guns or more.

Browning Buckmark and Ruger Mark series are the absolute best rimfire pistols out there.

For a budget 9mm, I would get one of the new Smith & Wesson SD9.

For a budget 45ACP, I would get a Ruger P345.


Of course, you could try out one of the new S&W Governors, it fires 45ACP, 45 Colt, and 410 bore.

FBO Wrote:
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> DONT BUY AT THE GUN SHOW!!!
>
> vaguntrader.com is the best place for firearms in
> the Commonwealth.
>
> Decide what you want out of a handgun first, then
> price accordingly.


Anyone know about a FNH's FNX 40? All I could find is that FNH is Belgian and this seems to be favored for CC use. I'm not worried about CC, just something with stopping power and a high capacity mag. This one has 14 +1, which is adequate. Looks like I can pick one up locally for probably $550.

http://www.vaguntrader.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/422336#Post422336

Glock 19 or 23 for $500.

If you have a VA driver's license, you're not going to be able to buy a gun in another state, unless it's a private party sale.

Gun Show in Manassas Dec 1-2 at the Fairgrounds 150 tables

gun show

FBO Wrote:
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> DONT BUY AT THE GUN SHOW!!!
>
> vaguntrader.com is the best place for firearms in
> the Commonwealth.
>
> Decide what you want out of a handgun first, then
> price accordingly.

Duh, like maybe it shoots a bullet forward and away from my face.
I hope you ain't part of my family tho mental illness runs in the family.

Bacon Wrote:
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> Glock 19 or 23 for $500.
>
> If you have a VA driver's license, you're not
> going to be able to buy a gun in another state,
> unless it's a private party sale.

Glocks are for plastic people. And paper targets.

$1000.00 handgun? You got a handjob instead. You fucking morons are buying glitter guns. Only a lying dip shit would buy such a gun for home protection.
Definitely compensating for masculinity. Wasting money and boasting you have is embarrassing.

Handjobs Wrote:
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> $1000.00 handgun? You got a handjob instead. You
> fucking morons are buying glitter guns. Only a
> lying dip shit would buy such a gun for home
> protection.
> Definitely compensating for masculinity. Wasting
> money and boasting you have is embarrassing.

what 3 glitter guns can you get for $1k or are you still learning how to read? It's embarrassing that you can't read...

Quality firearms will be the best investment in 2013.

Genius Wrote:
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> FBO Wrote:
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> > DONT BUY AT THE GUN SHOW!!!
> >
> > vaguntrader.com is the best place for firearms
> in
> > the Commonwealth.
> >
> > Decide what you want out of a handgun first,
> then
> > price accordingly.
>
> Duh, like maybe it shoots a bullet forward and
> away from my face.
> I hope you ain't part of my family tho mental
> illness runs in the family.


Holy shit you are a complete fucktard.

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I say "fuck" a lot...

FBO Wrote:
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> Genius Wrote:
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> > FBO Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > DONT BUY AT THE GUN SHOW!!!
> > >
> > > vaguntrader.com is the best place for
> firearms
> > in
> > > the Commonwealth.
> > >
> > > Decide what you want out of a handgun first,
> > then
> > > price accordingly.
> >
> > Duh, like maybe it shoots a bullet forward and
> > away from my face.
> > I hope you ain't part of my family tho mental
> > illness runs in the family.
>
>
> Holy shit you are a complete fucktard.

Boys collect while Men utilize.

Handjobs Wrote:
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> $1000.00 handgun? You got a handjob instead. You
> fucking morons are buying glitter guns. Only a
> lying dip shit would buy such a gun for home
> protection.
> Definitely compensating for masculinity. Wasting
> money and boasting you have is embarrassing.

Glocks are definitely not glitter guns.

The following is a picture of the Jimenez Arms JA-9 9mm. Not only is it glittery, but it happens to be cheap. This one can be had for less than $175 each at any gun show...
Attachments:

These are cute too
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JoeBob Wrote:
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> Handjobs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > $1000.00 handgun? You got a handjob instead.
> You
> > fucking morons are buying glitter guns. Only a
> > lying dip shit would buy such a gun for home
> > protection.
> > Definitely compensating for masculinity.
> Wasting
> > money and boasting you have is embarrassing.
>
> Glocks are definitely not glitter guns.
>
> The following is a picture of the Jimenez Arms
> JA-9 9mm. Not only is it glittery, but it happens
> to be cheap. This one can be had for less than
> $175 each at any gun show...

Gee JoeBob,
Don't be showing guns in public. You scared the poor lady and it doesn't help. People get weirded out by gun nuts cause they act stupid and immature while online. The boys think they are cool cause they bought guns and have to show off.
They really are compensating for insecurities and manhood.
Look who's committing these horrendous crimes. Boys seeking attention. Boys like FBO, John Galt, Dame Brainless and others boasting about their guns are somewhat like the nutcases commiting the horrindous crimes. As you mature you will probably feel embarrassed and really stupid.

Your bigger than this Wrote:
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> JoeBob Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Handjobs Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > $1000.00 handgun? You got a handjob instead.
> > You
> > > fucking morons are buying glitter guns. Only
> a
> > > lying dip shit would buy such a gun for home
> > > protection.
> > > Definitely compensating for masculinity.
> > Wasting
> > > money and boasting you have is embarrassing.
> >
> > Glocks are definitely not glitter guns.
> >
> > The following is a picture of the Jimenez Arms
> > JA-9 9mm. Not only is it glittery, but it
> happens
> > to be cheap. This one can be had for less than
> > $175 each at any gun show...
>
> Gee JoeBob,
> Don't be showing guns in public. You scared the
> poor lady and it doesn't help. People get weirded
> out by gun nuts cause they act stupid and immature
> while online. The boys think they are cool cause
> they bought guns and have to show off.
> They really are compensating for insecurities and
> manhood.
> Look who's committing these horrendous crimes.
> Boys seeking attention. Boys like FBO, John Galt,
> Dame Brainless and others boasting about their
> guns are somewhat like the nutcases commiting the
> horrindous crimes. As you mature you will probably
> feel embarrassed and really stupid.


But then he'll probably know the proper use of your and you're which you obviously don't. And speaking of stupid, YOUR dumb-ass attempts at argument are about as good as YOUR English. lol

YOU'RE-a-Dope Wrote:
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> Your bigger than this Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > JoeBob Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Handjobs Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > $1000.00 handgun? You got a handjob
> instead.
> > > You
> > > > fucking morons are buying glitter guns.
> Only
> > a
> > > > lying dip shit would buy such a gun for
> home
> > > > protection.
> > > > Definitely compensating for masculinity.
> > > Wasting
> > > > money and boasting you have is
> embarrassing.
> > >
> > > Glocks are definitely not glitter guns.
> > >
> > > The following is a picture of the Jimenez
> Arms
> > > JA-9 9mm. Not only is it glittery, but it
> > happens
> > > to be cheap. This one can be had for less
> than
> > > $175 each at any gun show...
> >
> > Gee JoeBob,
> > Don't be showing guns in public. You scared the
> > poor lady and it doesn't help. People get
> weirded
> > out by gun nuts cause they act stupid and
> immature
> > while online. The boys think they are cool
> cause
> > they bought guns and have to show off.
> > They really are compensating for insecurities
> and
> > manhood.
> > Look who's committing these horrendous crimes.
> > Boys seeking attention. Boys like FBO, John
> Galt,
> > Dame Brainless and others boasting about their
> > guns are somewhat like the nutcases commiting
> the
> > horrindous crimes. As you mature you will
> probably
> > feel embarrassed and really stupid.
>
>
> But then he'll probably know the proper use of
> your and you're which you obviously don't. And
> speaking of stupid, YOUR dumb-ass attempts at
> argument are about as good as YOUR English. lol


Ouch, somebody is pissed. Wait till you read your name and address in the news.
Just hope they spell YOUR name correct. lol

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> YOU'RE-a-Dope Wrote:
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> > Your bigger than this Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > JoeBob Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Handjobs Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > $1000.00 handgun? You got a handjob
> > instead.
> > > > You
> > > > > fucking morons are buying glitter guns.
> > Only
> > > a
> > > > > lying dip shit would buy such a gun for
> > home
> > > > > protection.
> > > > > Definitely compensating for masculinity.
> > > > Wasting
> > > > > money and boasting you have is
> > embarrassing.
> > > >
> > > > Glocks are definitely not glitter guns.
> > > >
> > > > The following is a picture of the Jimenez
> > Arms
> > > > JA-9 9mm. Not only is it glittery, but it
> > > happens
> > > > to be cheap. This one can be had for less
> > than
> > > > $175 each at any gun show...
> > >
> > > Gee JoeBob,
> > > Don't be showing guns in public. You scared
> the
> > > poor lady and it doesn't help. People get
> > weirded
> > > out by gun nuts cause they act stupid and
> > immature
> > > while online. The boys think they are cool
> > cause
> > > they bought guns and have to show off.
> > > They really are compensating for insecurities
> > and
> > > manhood.
> > > Look who's committing these horrendous
> crimes.
> > > Boys seeking attention. Boys like FBO, John
> > Galt,
> > > Dame Brainless and others boasting about
> their
> > > guns are somewhat like the nutcases commiting
> > the
> > > horrindous crimes. As you mature you will
> > probably
> > > feel embarrassed and really stupid.
> >
> >
> > But then he'll probably know the proper use of
> > your and you're which you obviously don't. And
> > speaking of stupid, YOUR dumb-ass attempts at
> > argument are about as good as YOUR English. lol
>
>
> Ouch, somebody is pissed. Wait till you read your
> name and address in the news.
> Just hope they spell YOUR name correct. lol


Not pissed, just qualifying the source. Though YOUR idiocy speaks for itself.

I don't have a permit so my evil 'assault weapons' and other guns will be stealthily hidden from YOUR view. Hey, maybe we're neighbors! Muhahahaha lol

FCPS FTW! Wrote:
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> >
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> > > Your bigger than this Wrote:
> > >
> >
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>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > JoeBob Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Handjobs Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > $1000.00 handgun? You got a handjob
> > > instead.
> > > > > You
> > > > > > fucking morons are buying glitter guns.
> > > Only
> > > > a
> > > > > > lying dip shit would buy such a gun for
> > > home
> > > > > > protection.
> > > > > > Definitely compensating for
> masculinity.
> > > > > Wasting
> > > > > > money and boasting you have is
> > > embarrassing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Glocks are definitely not glitter guns.
> > > > >
> > > > > The following is a picture of the Jimenez
> > > Arms
> > > > > JA-9 9mm. Not only is it glittery, but
> it
> > > > happens
> > > > > to be cheap. This one can be had for
> less
> > > than
> > > > > $175 each at any gun show...
> > > >
> > > > Gee JoeBob,
> > > > Don't be showing guns in public. You scared
> > the
> > > > poor lady and it doesn't help. People get
> > > weirded
> > > > out by gun nuts cause they act stupid and
> > > immature
> > > > while online. The boys think they are cool
> > > cause
> > > > they bought guns and have to show off.
> > > > They really are compensating for
> insecurities
> > > and
> > > > manhood.
> > > > Look who's committing these horrendous
> > crimes.
> > > > Boys seeking attention. Boys like FBO, John
> > > Galt,
> > > > Dame Brainless and others boasting about
> > their
> > > > guns are somewhat like the nutcases
> commiting
> > > the
> > > > horrindous crimes. As you mature you will
> > > probably
> > > > feel embarrassed and really stupid.
> > >
> > >
> > > But then he'll probably know the proper use
> of
> > > your and you're which you obviously don't.
> And
> > > speaking of stupid, YOUR dumb-ass attempts at
> > > argument are about as good as YOUR English.
> lol
> >
> >
> > Ouch, somebody is pissed. Wait till you read
> your
> > name and address in the news.
> > Just hope they spell YOUR name correct. lol
>
>
> Not pissed, just qualifying the source. Though
> YOUR idiocy speaks for itself.
>
> I don't have a permit so my evil 'assault weapons'
> and other guns will be stealthily hidden from YOUR
> view. Hey, maybe we're neighbors! Muhahahaha lol



Your evil assault weapon doesn't scare me. I've had a couple hundred pointed at me years ago and one did ruin my day. What concerns me is why you're feeling insecure to pocess one. Going to war? Mine was just a tool to finish a job.

The Dude Abides Wrote:
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> FCPS FTW! Wrote:
> > I don't have a permit so my evil 'assault
> weapons'
> > and other guns will be stealthily hidden from
> YOUR
> > view. Hey, maybe we're neighbors! Muhahahaha
> lol
>
>
>
> Your evil assault weapon doesn't scare me. I've
> had a couple hundred pointed at me years ago and
> one did ruin my day. What concerns me is why
> you're feeling insecure to pocess one. Going to
> war? Mine was just a tool to finish a job.


Boasting about owning an assault rifle is a little concerning to me also. You understand the intentions of men in combat but civilians stating they are armed and may be your neighbor sounds like a threat with his post.

Although I'm a Glock guy, if you want to spend $1000, and maybe a bit more, perhaps $1200, the Kimber Custom Carry 1911 .45 caliber. You can't miss with it, no recoil and a perfect firearm in every aspect.

Tough One Wrote:
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> Although I'm a Glock guy, if you want to spend
> $1000, and maybe a bit more, perhaps $1200, the
> Kimber Custom Carry 1911 .45 caliber. You can't
> miss with it, no recoil and a perfect firearm in
> every aspect.

Glocks are 1/2 plastic for plastic people who shoot paper.
Kinda funny how boys become fixated on brand names.

Kimber is manufactured for rich kids who believe that the more you pay the better it is. Colt or Remington govt. issues are working man tools. Why pay more for show. Maybe gun collectors.

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> > > > > > > $1000.00 handgun? You got a handjob
> > > > instead.
> > > > > > You
> > > > > > > fucking morons are buying glitter
> guns.
> > > > Only
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > lying dip shit would buy such a gun
> for
> > > > home
> > > > > > > protection.
> > > > > > > Definitely compensating for
> > masculinity.
> > > > > > Wasting
> > > > > > > money and boasting you have is
> > > > embarrassing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glocks are definitely not glitter guns.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The following is a picture of the
> Jimenez
> > > > Arms
> > > > > > JA-9 9mm. Not only is it glittery, but
> > it
> > > > > happens
> > > > > > to be cheap. This one can be had for
> > less
> > > > than
> > > > > > $175 each at any gun show...
> > > > >
> > > > > Gee JoeBob,
> > > > > Don't be showing guns in public. You
> scared
> > > the
> > > > > poor lady and it doesn't help. People get
> > > > weirded
> > > > > out by gun nuts cause they act stupid and
> > > > immature
> > > > > while online. The boys think they are
> cool
> > > > cause
> > > > > they bought guns and have to show off.
> > > > > They really are compensating for
> > insecurities
> > > > and
> > > > > manhood.
> > > > > Look who's committing these horrendous
> > > crimes.
> > > > > Boys seeking attention. Boys like FBO,
> John
> > > > Galt,
> > > > > Dame Brainless and others boasting about
> > > their
> > > > > guns are somewhat like the nutcases
> > commiting
> > > > the
> > > > > horrindous crimes. As you mature you will
> > > > probably
> > > > > feel embarrassed and really stupid.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > But then he'll probably know the proper use
> > of
> > > > your and you're which you obviously don't.
> > And
> > > > speaking of stupid, YOUR dumb-ass attempts
> at
> > > > argument are about as good as YOUR English.
> > lol
> > >
> > >
> > > Ouch, somebody is pissed. Wait till you read
> > your
> > > name and address in the news.
> > > Just hope they spell YOUR name correct. lol
> >
> >
> > Not pissed, just qualifying the source. Though
> > YOUR idiocy speaks for itself.
> >
> > I don't have a permit so my evil 'assault
> weapons'
> > and other guns will be stealthily hidden from
> YOUR
> > view. Hey, maybe we're neighbors! Muhahahaha
> lol
>
>
>
> Your evil assault weapon doesn't scare me. I've
> had a couple hundred pointed at me years ago and
> one did ruin my day. What concerns me is why
> you're feeling insecure to pocess one. Going to
> war? Mine was just a tool to finish a job.


It shouldn't. Simple point was that evil "assault rifles" or for that matter any other guns aren't reflected in the CCW permit records so publishing those permit holders doesn't really tell you much. You're the ones who seem to view it as such based on your own fears given all of your (same old) posts to that same end. Why it does is on you.

Sorry to disappoint but no threat here. I've shot small- and large-bore competitively since I was a kid. Through high school (yes, back in the day they even had rifle ranges in Fairfax County high schools! GASP!), ROTC, in service matches, and still do now and then. There was a time not that long ago when that was viewed as something to be proud of not as a menace. Sad to say that time seems to be long gone. Funny, we never seemed to have these kinds of incidents back then even though we had the same guns. Go figure...

Anyway, sounds like you have some left-overs that you need to digest. They have more help for that sort of thing now than they did when we were in you know. Maybe a trip over to Bethesda is in order? They have a new facility down at Belvoir that's supposed to be nice. Wouldn't want you to go off one day. I mean we know how touchy some of you guys are after all of the Post Office shootings and that kinda thing. Now that I think about it what's your address? Maybe we should put dot there just to be safe.

Tough One Wrote:
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> Although I'm a Glock guy, if you want to spend
> $1000, and maybe a bit more, perhaps $1200, the
> Kimber Custom Carry 1911 .45 caliber. You can't
> miss with it, no recoil and a perfect firearm in
> every aspect.

+1 If you look around you might find a private seller with one at $1K

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

Your bigger than this Wrote:
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> They really are compensating for insecurities and
> manhood.
> Look who's committing these horrendous crimes.
> Boys seeking attention. Boys like FBO, John Galt,
> Dame Brainless and others boasting about their
> guns are somewhat like the nutcases commiting the
> horrindous crimes.

That's the great thing about gun nuts -- they have to brag. Otherwise they don't get the much-needed testosterone boost. The normal, everyday (non-nut) gun owners are the ones you don't even know about because they don't have the psychological need to brag all the time.

> As you mature you will probably feel embarrassed and really stupid.

Don't bet on it. Most of these monkeys are already past their mid-20s, when the male brain fully matures. They're about as "mature" as they're going to get. :-)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Truer words have never been spoken.

Gotta Agree Wrote:
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> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Truer words have never been spoken.

lol, that is the best you got?

Guess when you have no facts, reverting to name calling is all you have left. And grammar checking.

Here watch this video. Even though the lady gets pretty much smacked down, you can use her talking points to form a somewhat intelligent discussion. Pay close attention.

Oh, and you are welcome.

http://youtu.be/ZOp3jrqBz6w

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

Possible hand guns for conceal carry, all highly rated < = $1000

HK HK45C 45ACP $1,000.00
Kimber Solo Carry Stainless 9mm $750
Glock 26/27 26 - 9mm, 27 - .40 caliber $600
GLOCK G23 .40 S&W Compact $600
Glock 19 9mm $600
Walther PPS, 9MM $525
Springfield XD 9mm $510
S&W M&P Compact 9MM $500
Ruger SR9C Compact Pistol 9MM $400

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

Dane Bramage Wrote:
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> Possible hand guns for conceal carry, all highly
> rated < = $1000
>
> HK HK45C 45ACP $1,000.00
> Kimber Solo Carry Stainless 9mm $750
> Glock 26/27 26 - 9mm, 27 - .40 caliber $600
> GLOCK G23 .40 S&W Compact $600
> Glock 19 9mm $600
> Walther PPS, 9MM $525
> Springfield XD 9mm $510
> S&W M&P Compact 9MM $500
> Ruger SR9C Compact Pistol 9MM $400

Most reasonable people don't buy alot of guns. Just more bullets.
Lookin a little silly, boy
That's why America is great. You can be both dumb and paranoid.

He's scared and stupid. The classic combination. :-)

Gee Dame, you scared? Wrote:
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> Dane Bramage Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Possible hand guns for conceal carry, all
> highly
> > rated < = $1000
> >
> > HK HK45C 45ACP $1,000.00
> > Kimber Solo Carry Stainless 9mm $750
> > Glock 26/27 26 - 9mm, 27 - .40 caliber $600
> > GLOCK G23 .40 S&W Compact $600
> > Glock 19 9mm $600
> > Walther PPS, 9MM $525
> > Springfield XD 9mm $510
> > S&W M&P Compact 9MM $500
> > Ruger SR9C Compact Pistol 9MM $400
>
> Most reasonable people don't buy alot of guns.
> Just more bullets.
> Lookin a little silly, boy
> That's why America is great. You can be both dumb
> and paranoid.


Most reasonable people understand that he was posting a list of options. Durrr

And people who actually understand the subject know how silly and clueless you look talking about "bullets." If you're going to be anti-something you should at least know wtf you're babbling about.

You dumb? Wrote:
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> Gee Dame, you scared? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dane Bramage Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Possible hand guns for conceal carry, all
> > highly
> > > rated < = $1000
> > >
> > > HK HK45C 45ACP $1,000.00
> > > Kimber Solo Carry Stainless 9mm $750
> > > Glock 26/27 26 - 9mm, 27 - .40 caliber $600
> > > GLOCK G23 .40 S&W Compact $600
> > > Glock 19 9mm $600
> > > Walther PPS, 9MM $525
> > > Springfield XD 9mm $510
> > > S&W M&P Compact 9MM $500
> > > Ruger SR9C Compact Pistol 9MM $400
> >
> > Most reasonable people don't buy alot of guns.
> > Just more bullets.
> > Lookin a little silly, boy
> > That's why America is great. You can be both
> dumb
> > and paranoid.
>
>
> Most reasonable people understand that he was
> posting a list of options. Durrr
>
> And people who actually understand the subject
> know how silly and clueless you look talking about
> "bullets." If you're going to be anti-something
> you should at least know wtf you're babbling
> about.

+1

Bet they would keep their bullets in clips.

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

Dane Bramage Wrote:
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>
> Bet they would keep their bullets in clips.


Those high capacity clips are the worst.

Pure evil I tell ya.

You dumb? Wrote:
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> Gee Dame, you scared? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dane Bramage Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Possible hand guns for conceal carry, all
> > highly
> > > rated < = $1000
> > >
> > > HK HK45C 45ACP $1,000.00
> > > Kimber Solo Carry Stainless 9mm $750
> > > Glock 26/27 26 - 9mm, 27 - .40 caliber $600
> > > GLOCK G23 .40 S&W Compact $600
> > > Glock 19 9mm $600
> > > Walther PPS, 9MM $525
> > > Springfield XD 9mm $510
> > > S&W M&P Compact 9MM $500
> > > Ruger SR9C Compact Pistol 9MM $400
> >
> > Most reasonable people don't buy alot of guns.
> > Just more bullets.
> > Lookin a little silly, boy
> > That's why America is great. You can be both
> dumb
> > and paranoid.
>
>
> Most reasonable people understand that he was
> posting a list of options. Durrr
>
> And people who actually understand the subject
> know how silly and clueless you look talking about
> "bullets." If you're going to be anti-something
> you should at least know wtf you're babbling
> about.


We called them clips before it became"gun correct"
And I do know a little about bullets. They make holes where you don't want them.
And hurt.
And if Dame wants to off himself he has quite a few options.
So many guns but so little time.

I would recomend a nice .357 revolver Colt, Smith & Wesson or Ruger . You get what you pay for ! I wouldn't trust my life on a cheap piece of crap gun. Only niggers and beeners buy chrome and gold plated shit guns , I wouldn't give 2 bucks for one or allow it in my safe.

Bite the Bullet Wrote:
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> We called them clips before it became"gun
> correct"
> And I do know a little about bullets. They make
> holes where you don't want them.
> And hurt.
> And if Dame wants to off himself he has quite a
> few options.
> So many guns but so little time.


No, we didn't unless you were dragging an M1/M14 around.

Bite the Bullet Wrote:
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> And I do know a little about bullets. They make
> holes where you don't want them.
> And hurt.

No one really even cares about the "munition". The gun themselves are what provide the testosterone boost for these clowns.

*ping* Wrote:
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> Bite the Bullet Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > We called them clips before it became"gun
> > correct"
> > And I do know a little about bullets. They make
> > holes where you don't want them.
> > And hurt.
> > And if Dame wants to off himself he has quite a
> > few options.
> > So many guns but so little time.
>
>
> No, we didn't unless you were dragging an M1/M14


Give the man a cigar. M14. Even with composite stock it was to heavy for a walkabout.
I don't care about weapons. Just the fucking brats who buy them now.

*ping* Wrote:
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> Bite the Bullet Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > We called them clips before it became"gun
> > correct"
> > And I do know a little about bullets. They make
> > holes where you don't want them.
> > And hurt.
> > And if Dame wants to off himself he has quite a
> > few options.
> > So many guns but so little time.
>
>
> No, we didn't unless you were dragging an M1/M14
> around.


Winner winner chicken dinner.

____________________________________________________________________________________________

I say "fuck" a lot...

I eat chicken. Tastes like the dark meat of a rat.
And we knew where the rats were.

Anyone living in demographically fracturing N. Virginia is a damned fool if they
are not armed.

I started building my arsenal after 9/11. No terrorist threat at my house.
I have at least 2 guns for every room with ar-15s everywhere. Joined a small militia for training as this country sinks into oblivion. I have spent my savings in guns and supplies waiting for the time we will be proven right. I now have 14 Glock 17s, 4 Glock 19s
10 ar-15s
4 12 gauge shotguns
And a few I better not mention becaus the ATF might be interested.
Try to keep constituent types so I can stock up on ammo.
Wife kids me saying the more guns the less friends. Thats OK because the less they know the better off we are.
I love my wife because she can buy guns and I can't. Thank god for women.
Off to work but be safe and sounds like a few others here are getting ready for this year.

Kilton Wrote:
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> Bite the Bullet Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And I do know a little about bullets. They make
> > holes where you don't want them.
> > And hurt.
>
> No one really even cares about the "munition". The
> gun themselves are what provide the testosterone
> boost for these clowns.


Hmm. How many posts on firearm ownership is that by you the past few days?

Seems like you are overcompensating for some deficiency by continuing to point out that firearm owners have low self esteem regarding their manhood.

One or two posts, sure....you are just pointing out your unfounded belief. A litany of repetition, however, seems to indicate your own actual masculine deficiency.

So, do you have a small penis or are you just sort of a wimpy and puny dork that still gets disrespected even in adulthood? Which is it?

Freudster Wrote:
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> Kilton Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bite the Bullet Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > And I do know a little about bullets. They
> make
> > > holes where you don't want them.
> > > And hurt.
> >
> > No one really even cares about the "munition".
> The
> > gun themselves are what provide the
> testosterone
> > boost for these clowns.
>
>
> Hmm. How many posts on firearm ownership is that
> by you the past few days?
>
> Seems like you are overcompensating for some
> deficiency by continuing to point out that firearm
> owners have low self esteem regarding their
> manhood.
>
> One or two posts, sure....you are just pointing
> out your unfounded belief. A litany of
> repetition, however, seems to indicate your own
> actual masculine deficiency.
>
> So, do you have a small penis or are you just sort
> of a wimpy and puny dork that still gets
> disrespected even in adulthood? Which is it?

Kilton = My Hero
You = Dickhead

Rod Koozmin Wrote:
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> Freudster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Kilton Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Bite the Bullet Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > And I do know a little about bullets. They
> > make
> > > > holes where you don't want them.
> > > > And hurt.
> > >
> > > No one really even cares about the
> "munition".
> > The
> > > gun themselves are what provide the
> > testosterone
> > > boost for these clowns.
> >
> >
> > Hmm. How many posts on firearm ownership is
> that
> > by you the past few days?
> >
> > Seems like you are overcompensating for some
> > deficiency by continuing to point out that
> firearm
> > owners have low self esteem regarding their
> > manhood.
> >
> > One or two posts, sure....you are just pointing
> > out your unfounded belief. A litany of
> > repetition, however, seems to indicate your own
> > actual masculine deficiency.
> >
> > So, do you have a small penis or are you just
> sort
> > of a wimpy and puny dork that still gets
> > disrespected even in adulthood? Which is it?
>
> Kilton = My Hero
> You = Dickhead


I can see my post upset you. Clearly not my intention. LOL.

Any real man would own a Desert Eagle XIX in 50ae. If you are going to carry then carry the most powerful and best. If you are gonna be tough then carry big.