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$161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
hardworker
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Date: November 29, 2012 12:55PM
Well I just learned of a traffic violation I never knew existed...cost me $161 to find out.
Do you know that if an "emergency vehicle" has it's lights on and is on the side of the road you HAVE to move over a lane.
Violation is "failure to yield right of way to emergency vehicle".
Christ sake you would have thought I cut off an ambulance or something !
Fucking slow day for the trooper I guess.
Anyway the fine for a second violation is $2,500 + jail.
Be careful out there.
Do you know that if an "emergency vehicle" has it's lights on and is on the side of the road you HAVE to move over a lane.
Violation is "failure to yield right of way to emergency vehicle".
Christ sake you would have thought I cut off an ambulance or something !
Fucking slow day for the trooper I guess.
Anyway the fine for a second violation is $2,500 + jail.
Be careful out there.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
Trooper Sean Thornton
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Date: November 29, 2012 01:04PM
I'm not sure I understand your situation...
You acknowledge that you broke the law and yet you wonder why you ere ticketed for doing so?
The reason this law exists, not that it makes any difference...is because people manning emergency vehicles typically have to get out of their vehicle in order to evaluate or render aid or make the situation safe. Imagine how challenging it is to get out of a vehicle on the driver's side with little clearance to the right hand most lane. Moving over one lane to the left (or the right if they're pulled on the left), is the LEAST helpful thing you can do for a first responder.
Sit down and read the motor vehicle code. Clearly there have been things you aren't familiar with...so, perhaps there's more. Either that or STFU...either way I don't give a shit what you feel you're entitled to.
You acknowledge that you broke the law and yet you wonder why you ere ticketed for doing so?
The reason this law exists, not that it makes any difference...is because people manning emergency vehicles typically have to get out of their vehicle in order to evaluate or render aid or make the situation safe. Imagine how challenging it is to get out of a vehicle on the driver's side with little clearance to the right hand most lane. Moving over one lane to the left (or the right if they're pulled on the left), is the LEAST helpful thing you can do for a first responder.
Sit down and read the motor vehicle code. Clearly there have been things you aren't familiar with...so, perhaps there's more. Either that or STFU...either way I don't give a shit what you feel you're entitled to.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
Should have been common sense
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Date: November 29, 2012 01:08PM
This should have been common sense and common courtesy, but people like you obviously have neither, so they had to make it a law.
I bet you drive in the left lane at or near the speed limit and get pissed off at the people tailgating you.
I bet you drive in the left lane at or near the speed limit and get pissed off at the people tailgating you.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
hardworker
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Date: November 29, 2012 01:12PM
Hey you two....I guess you told me !
I posted as a public service.
I don't care what either of you Bozos think.
Have a nice day assholes.
I posted as a public service.
I don't care what either of you Bozos think.
Have a nice day assholes.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
Knowledge is 9/10th's of the law
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Date: November 29, 2012 01:16PM
hardworker Wrote:
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> Well I just learned of a traffic violation I never
> knew existed...cost me $161 to find out.
Pretty cheap lesson. You seriously need to brush up on the driving laws.
I bet you consider yourself to be a great driver, yet you aren't even aware of this law that has been on the books for years.
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> Well I just learned of a traffic violation I never
> knew existed...cost me $161 to find out.
Pretty cheap lesson. You seriously need to brush up on the driving laws.
I bet you consider yourself to be a great driver, yet you aren't even aware of this law that has been on the books for years.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
BEH
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Date: November 29, 2012 01:18PM
Makes you wonder what other shenanigans "hardworker" is up to on the road.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
BigK
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Date: November 29, 2012 02:06PM
You broke the law so just pay the fine and move on. And, YES, I did know that was the law. I actually paid attention in driver education classes.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
a reader
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Date: November 29, 2012 02:12PM
Yes, I think that went into effect July last year. But I also think the law says you have to do it if you can safely do so. If there wasn't a reason you couldn't safely move to the other lane (someone else was there, you couldn't move over but slowed way down, etc) tell the judge that.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
TheMeeper
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Date: November 29, 2012 02:14PM
hardworker Wrote:
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> Well I just learned of a traffic violation I never
> knew existed...cost me $161 to find out.
>
> Do you know that if an "emergency vehicle" has
> it's lights on and is on the side of the road you
> HAVE to move over a lane.
>
> Violation is "failure to yield right of way to
> emergency vehicle".
Total BS man. Most ambulance and fire truck drivers love it when you try to race along side of them. It's exciting.
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> Well I just learned of a traffic violation I never
> knew existed...cost me $161 to find out.
>
> Do you know that if an "emergency vehicle" has
> it's lights on and is on the side of the road you
> HAVE to move over a lane.
>
> Violation is "failure to yield right of way to
> emergency vehicle".
Total BS man. Most ambulance and fire truck drivers love it when you try to race along side of them. It's exciting.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
say what?
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Date: November 29, 2012 02:17PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> hardworker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well I just learned of a traffic violation I
> never
> > knew existed...cost me $161 to find out.
> >
> > Do you know that if an "emergency vehicle" has
> > it's lights on and is on the side of the road
> you
> > HAVE to move over a lane.
> >
> > Violation is "failure to yield right of way to
> > emergency vehicle".
>
> Total BS man. Most ambulance and fire truck
> drivers love it when you try to race along side of
> them. It's exciting.
How are they racing if they are on the side of the road?
Jeebus, you are one dumb son of a bitch.
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> hardworker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well I just learned of a traffic violation I
> never
> > knew existed...cost me $161 to find out.
> >
> > Do you know that if an "emergency vehicle" has
> > it's lights on and is on the side of the road
> you
> > HAVE to move over a lane.
> >
> > Violation is "failure to yield right of way to
> > emergency vehicle".
>
> Total BS man. Most ambulance and fire truck
> drivers love it when you try to race along side of
> them. It's exciting.
How are they racing if they are on the side of the road?
Jeebus, you are one dumb son of a bitch.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
Law was updated 2010
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Date: November 29, 2012 02:52PM
a reader Wrote:
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> Yes, I think that went into effect July last year.
> But I also think the law says you have to do it
> if you can safely do so. If there wasn't a reason
> you couldn't safely move to the other lane
> (someone else was there, you couldn't move over
> but slowed way down, etc) tell the judge that.
Obviously he didn't slow down, and that is why the cop gave him a ticket. They are pretty lenient about this law, but if you go screaming past them at highway speed, they get a little pissy about it.
The law was updated in 2010, but it goes back to 2002.
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/SlowDownMoveOver_VAcode.shtm
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> Yes, I think that went into effect July last year.
> But I also think the law says you have to do it
> if you can safely do so. If there wasn't a reason
> you couldn't safely move to the other lane
> (someone else was there, you couldn't move over
> but slowed way down, etc) tell the judge that.
Obviously he didn't slow down, and that is why the cop gave him a ticket. They are pretty lenient about this law, but if you go screaming past them at highway speed, they get a little pissy about it.
The law was updated in 2010, but it goes back to 2002.
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/SlowDownMoveOver_VAcode.shtm
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§ 46.2-921.1. Drivers to yield right-of-way or reduce speed when approaching stationary emergency vehicles on highways; penalties.
A. The driver of any motor vehicle, upon approaching a stationary vehicle that is displaying a flashing, blinking, or alternating blue, red, or amber light or lights as provided in § 46.2-1022, 46.2-1023, or 46.2-1024 or subdivision A 1 or A 2 of § 46.2-1025 shall (i) on a highway having at least four lanes, at least two of which are intended for traffic proceeding as the approaching vehicle, proceed with caution and, if reasonable, with due regard for safety and traffic conditions, yield the right-of-way by making a lane change into a lane not adjacent to the stationary vehicle or (ii) if changing lanes would be unreasonable or unsafe, proceed with due caution and maintain a safe speed for highway conditions.
B. A violation of any provision of this section shall be punishable as a traffic infraction, except that a second or subsequent violation of any provision of this section, when such violation involved a vehicle with flashing, blinking, or alternating blue or red lights, shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.
C. If the violation resulted in damage to property of another person, the court may, in addition, order the suspension of the driver's privilege to operate a motor vehicle for not more than one year. If the violation resulted in injury to another person, the court may, in addition to any other penalty imposed, order the suspension of the driver's privilege to operate a motor vehicle for not more than two years. If the violation resulted in the death of another person, the court may, in addition to any other penalty imposed, order the suspension of the driver's privilege to operate a motor vehicle for two years.
D. The provisions of this section shall not apply in highway work zones as defined in § 46.2-878.1.
(2002, cc. 163, 341; 2008, c. 818; 2010, c. 289.)
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
mo jenekins
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Date: November 29, 2012 02:55PM
"if changing lanes would be unreasonable or unsafe"
which means dont just switch lanes regardless otherwise you get another ticket for cutting off cars already in the lane. If it is like 95 then the chances of even being able to switch lanes is just about zero but at least give some effort by putting on your turn signal to try to switch.
which means dont just switch lanes regardless otherwise you get another ticket for cutting off cars already in the lane. If it is like 95 then the chances of even being able to switch lanes is just about zero but at least give some effort by putting on your turn signal to try to switch.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
0tter
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Date: November 29, 2012 03:00PM
How do people not know about this law. It exists in this state, most other states AND all the trooper cars have a bumper sticker describing the law. Fat, dumb and happy I suppose.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
Helpy McHelperton
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Date: November 29, 2012 03:09PM
The idea is to give as much room as possible so, even if you can't change lanes for sure pull as far to the left of your lane as you can without cutting anyone off. (Or if you're passing a first reponder on your left then pull to the right of your lane.)
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
People are full of blind spots
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Date: November 29, 2012 04:24PM
0tter Wrote:
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> How do people not know about this law. It exists
> in this state, most other states AND all the
> trooper cars have a bumper sticker describing the
> law. Fat, dumb and happy I suppose.
People tend to have huge blind spots as pertains to their every day surroundings.
Many people also don't have much consideration for others, and are oblivious to how their actions affect others. I'd like to think they are all from the hills and hollows, but some are actually highly educated.
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> How do people not know about this law. It exists
> in this state, most other states AND all the
> trooper cars have a bumper sticker describing the
> law. Fat, dumb and happy I suppose.
People tend to have huge blind spots as pertains to their every day surroundings.
Many people also don't have much consideration for others, and are oblivious to how their actions affect others. I'd like to think they are all from the hills and hollows, but some are actually highly educated.
Re: $161 va state police ticket....
Posted by:
imnotheOPBUT
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Date: November 29, 2012 04:28PM
im not the op but I freak out when that shit blinks behind me and I just break and freeze and hope they do not hit me from behind.
Many times like if it is a 3 lane road already some have refused me space to move over and sometime I lay down on the horn and the police is trying to guide the ambulance and there really is not much you can do to if you can not pull over.
If you are the first in line then yes you must either to a u turn or go through the red lights so others behind you can make way but Ive never been first in line before and I can see myself fucking up thinking I'll get a ticket for running red light on purpose for helping the ambulance.
Many times like if it is a 3 lane road already some have refused me space to move over and sometime I lay down on the horn and the police is trying to guide the ambulance and there really is not much you can do to if you can not pull over.
If you are the first in line then yes you must either to a u turn or go through the red lights so others behind you can make way but Ive never been first in line before and I can see myself fucking up thinking I'll get a ticket for running red light on purpose for helping the ambulance.