My friend calls this Korean dude that works with us "Chinaman". It cracks me up, but at the sametime i feel its wrong. How do i approach him about it?

Tell him that "chink" is a much more acceptable term. Jeez, everyone knows that!

Isn't Chink a racist term itself? The Korean guy just laughs off, but i can tell deep inside he resents being called a "chinaman". Everytime i bring this up with my friend his reply is, how how am i suppose to know what kind of asian he is. i am like duh, dummy. just ask him.

How would you feel if you moved to Japan and everyone kept calling you a "brit" when you were really an American?

cowell Wrote:
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> Isn't Chink a racist term itself? The Korean guy
> just laughs off, but i can tell deep inside he
> resents being called a "chinaman". Everytime i
> bring this up with my friend his reply is, how how
> am i suppose to know what kind of asian he is. i
> am like duh, dummy. just ask him.

I suppose it'd be too difficult to just refer to the guy by his preferred name.

I love how this racist guy starts these threads then leaves several replies in under 5 minutes. Keep up the good work.

It's wrong unless the Korean somehow has accepted the name,it's like calling a white guy Englishman when he doesn't have that heritage.

I used to know a black kid nicknamed Chinaman when I was growing up, IMO nicknames are good or bad depending on who is named, though it'd be really classless to call any Asian Chinaman w/o knowing thier orgin just like its disrespectful to call every Spanish person a Mexican as some do

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Correct. Spanish = white people from Europe.

It's sorta like calling an American or Canadian person "English" just because of the language they speak.

inkahootz, meeper- you are correct. Somehow though. many Latins in the region call themselves Spanish, or refer to the group as a whole as Spanish though Latino is more prevelant and Hispanic not used as much.

Technically speaking if you are French,Italian or Romanian American, you are Latin American. French speaking Quebec and Haiti are in Latin America??

I think the term "Chinaman" is racist even when directed at a person of Chinese origin. Though maybe not as bad, it is akin to calling a black man the "n" word.

tbats Wrote:
>> many Latins in the region call themselves Spanish, or refer to the group as a whole as Spanish


That's a pet peeve of mine and I never understood it. Most countries south of our border have little respect for Spain, if not resentment, due to the history of the Spanish conquest. I guess maybe they say it because of the language they speak, and not for their high regard of thugs like Hernan Cortes or Francisco Pizarro. You'd think they'd have more pride in countries that fought Spain's imperialism, like Mexico, than they would with the European country that came over here and kicked the living shit out of their ancestors.

Off topic but even worse stupid ass topic.

TheMeeper Wrote:

> That's a pet peeve of mine and I never understood
> it. Most countries south of our border have
> little respect for Spain, if not resentment, due
> to the history of the Spanish conquest. I guess
> maybe they say it because of the language they
> speak, and not for their high regard of thugs like
> Hernan Cortes or Francisco Pizarro. You'd think
> they'd have more pride in countries that fought
> Spain's imperialism, like Mexico, than they would
> with the European country that came over here and
> kicked the living shit out of their ancestors.

Latin American cultural sensitivites are hot and cold to say the least. Many of the rich have links to Europe/Spain. If you watch Mexican TV, the vast majority of players are of Euro/Spain extraction. I've dated a few latinas of varied social classes and orgins and it was suprising at first how differntly the Spanish speaking countries view one another.

tbats Wrote:
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> inkahootz, meeper- you are correct. Somehow
> though. many Latins in the region call themselves
> Spanish, or refer to the group as a whole as
> Spanish though Latino is more prevelant and
> Hispanic not used as much.
>
> Technically speaking if you are French,Italian or
> Romanian American, you are Latin American. French
> speaking Quebec and Haiti are in Latin America??


Semantics alert!!! First off, I am latino, of French, Spanish, German, and indigenous South American indian blood. I also happen to have been born in Quebec, but I don't call myself French, even though I have french blood. In terms of nomenclature, I consider myself latino, although I could lay claim to various other terms if I wanted to. The latin american terminology is used because, the inhabitants of these regions main language and culture is derived from the Spanish, and their colonization of that area. Since the Spanish language is one of the three main 'Romance' languages (French and Italian being the other main ones, as well as a few others), that is truly etymologically based from roots of the Latin language (of Roman Empire times), it was coined by 'gringos' to distinguish between Americans and their neighbors to the south (Teddy Roosevelt used the term loosely himself)! All these different, incorrect, terminologies and classifications are a result of American diplomacy in the early nineteen hundreds. The U.S. has always been a country that likes to catalog, categorize, and differentiate between people ( think of all those census forms and bubble tests you have taken throughout your life here) Yes, Haitians and the Guianese (French Guiana) have more cultural ties to France; as well as Brazilians w/ Portugal, but since they were all lumped together back in the day by the U.S., based on geographical location, they are considered to be part of greater Latin America (Yes, I know Haiti is in the carribean, but so is the Dominican Republic, and they consider themselves Latin American) Besides, there are white, black, asian, mestizo, mullato, and indian peoples all over the Americas, so the term Latin American really has more to do with geography, rather than language and culture, or even race and ethnicity (at least in my opinion). Please pardon the lengthy diatribe!



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Romanian=Romance language w/ latin roots

I forgot Portuguese, they would also be considered Latin.
Belize (formerly British Honduras) and Guyana (formerly British Guyana) are both English speaking but would geographically be part of Latin America. Don't forget that Columbus mistakenly referred to the tribal inhabitants as "Indians" and the name stuck.

Ever wonder why the word "colonel" isn't spelled kurnel like it should be? Because people have been f***g it up so long its too late to change now!

tbats Wrote:
>> it was suprising at first how differntly the Spanish speaking countries view one another.

Ha. My grandparents came here from that sunny little Iberian peninsula back in the 1920's, and it's sometimes funny when I go to a real mexican restaurant and pay with my credit card. It's almost always a double-take from the wait-staff, you can see the confusion on their face. I always hoped it might hook me up with some sweet latina, but it's usually the opposite. They look at me like "whoa, what the fuck is this guy?". Either that, or they try to be friendly and speak Spanish to me, which I don't speak at all.

It's like reverse-racism! LOL.

tbats Wrote:
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> Romanian=Romance language w/ latin roots
>
> I forgot Portuguese, they would also be considered
> Latin.
> Belize (formerly British Honduras) and Guyana
> (formerly British Guyana) are both English
> speaking but would geographically be part of Latin
> America. Don't forget that Columbus mistakenly
> referred to the tribal inhabitants as "Indians"
> and the name stuck.
>
> Ever wonder why the word "colonel" isn't spelled
> kurnel like it should be? Because people have been
> f***g it up so long its too late to change now!


So would I be able to understand Romanian? For the most part, I get what Italians and Portugeuse say! Or is Romanian loosely based on Latin?

Even though I am american, if someone called me Canadian, or English, i would not be offended. I might correct them but I wouldnt call them racist. Even though I American, I speak English. This is how I know that all Asian peopel speak Chinese.

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KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Even though I am american, if someone called me
> Canadian, or English, i would not be offended. I
> might correct them but I wouldnt call them racist.
> Even though I American, I speak English. This is
> how I know that all Asian peopel speak Chinese.


You're crazy!!!!LOL

inkahootz Wrote:
>>> They just don't seem to get the fact that Europeans migrated to South America, and that some white people have Spanish last names!LOL


Yeah it's pretty funny. My grandparents from Spain basically thought all those other colonial new world cultures were just "Indians". Indians!!

LOL. Thank god that old world culture has sorta passed us by.

tbats Wrote:
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> Romanian=Romance language w/ latin roots
>
>
> Ever wonder why the word "colonel" isn't spelled
> kurnel like it should be? Because people have been
> f***g it up so long its too late to change now!


Colonel is a french word. In Spanish it is coronel, and in Italian, it is colonello.

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Romanian is based on Latin, the names appear more French than anything with "eau" suffixes. They share a few words with Italian and Franch but its is unique on its own.

A Romanian (gyspy) str1pper taught me this!

Ted Turner used this racist term last year and had to apologize for it. It's the same as 'N' word to blacks.

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can a Chinese person call another Chinese person a "Chinaman"???

it seem to be acceptable for a black man to call another black man "nigger" or am I wrong?

back to calling a Korean person a "Chinaman"... which I think is just wrong, because Korea was technically ruled by the Chinese emperor for hundreds of years, up until the Japanese invaded Korea. (almost all historic buildings in Korea have Chinese names on them)

Yes, it is offensive to call someone a "Chinaman" depending on the context. There was a kid that used to call me something like that back in high school, however I had known the kid since the 2nd grade, so it wasn't offensive at all.

However, if you do not know the person you are calling Chinaman, that would be highly highly offensive.

Like say you needed the help of a random stranger and went like "Yo, Chinaman" to him. Don't be surprised if he gets pissed off and wants to kick your ass.

I dunno if you know exactly how the person feels. If they've developed a close enough relationship, I don't think your co-worker minds. It also depends on how ethnic the person is. Typically, Asian people are closed people who won't try to cause conflict. I'm an American though, and if I didn't like it I'd tell you to shut the fuck up faggot.

Could you call the head of a dishware company a "chinaman", if it is in fact a man, no matter what country he comes from?

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There is really no way to approach him. Here is an idea - invite him over for some dog and talk about it

"Chink's" Korean equivolent is "Gook."

pgens Wrote:
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> How would you feel if you moved to Japan and
> everyone kept calling you a "brit" when you were
> really an American?


not offended if thats what you're getting at... annoyed maybe...



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You are an idiot. Korean people do not speak Chinese

Chinaman is a terrible racila slur and whoever says it is a big time stupid rasist scum

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Discuss.

Go with "Mongoloid." Its the correct scientific term for Asians. As a bonus it sounds pretty offensive due to demeaning connotations when used as slang in English.

cowell Wrote:
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> Isn't Chink a racist term itself? The Korean guy
> just laughs off, but i can tell deep inside he
> resents being called a "chinaman". Everytime i
> bring this up with my friend his reply is, how how
> am i suppose to know what kind of asian he is. i
> am like duh, dummy. just ask him.


It depends on how well you know the guy.

BTW, only in the U.S. (That I know of) does "Asian" typically refer to Orientals. The reason behind this, is that there are other Asians as well, including Indians, Bengalis, Sri Lankans, Pakis, Afghanis, etc.

CaneCorsoMom Wrote:
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> You are an idiot. Korean people do not speak
> Chinese
>
> Chinaman is a terrible racila slur and whoever
> says it is a big time stupid rasist scum


I prefer the term "Ching Chong".

Anyhow, All of the Oriental languages are descended from China, but yes, of course they are different cultures, and different people. The Japanese for instance hate the Chinese, and vice versa. I can sometimes tell the difference between the different Nationalities by the way the individuals speak, and look.

cowell Wrote:
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> My friend calls this Korean dude that works with
> us "Chinaman". It cracks me up, but at the
> sametime i feel its wrong. How do i approach him
> about it?


It is wrong and it is stupid. In elementary school you learned about sets. Remember sets and sub-sets. OK, you draw a very big circle and we will call that Asians. Inside that circle is another circle taking up lets say 60% or the bigger circle and we will call that circle Chinese (Not Chinaman, Chink, or Orientals those are terms used by the ignorant).

Now draw other circles inside the big circle but outside the Chinese circle. These circles will represent Koreans, Laotians, Thai, Japanese etc.

Now look at this work of art of a mathematical concept you just created. Trust me you will stare at it and say "gosh I am dumb f-er for asking such a dumb f-ing questiion in the first place."

Radiophile Wrote:
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> cowell Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My friend calls this Korean dude that works
> with
> > us "Chinaman". It cracks me up, but at the
> > sametime i feel its wrong. How do i approach
> him
> > about it?
>
>
> It is wrong and it is stupid. In elementary school
> you learned about sets. Remember sets and
> sub-sets. OK, you draw a very big circle and we
> will call that Asians. Inside that circle is
> another circle taking up lets say 60% or the
> bigger circle and we will call that circle Chinese
> (Not Chinaman, Chink, or Orientals those are terms
> used by the ignorant).
>
> Now draw other circles inside the big circle but
> outside the Chinese circle. These circles will
> represent Koreans, Laotians, Thai, Japanese etc.
>
> Now look at this work of art of a mathematical
> concept you just created. Trust me you will stare
> at it and say "gosh I am dumb f-er for asking such
> a dumb f-ing questiion in the first place."


"Oriental" is not an ignorant term, and I have no idea where you picked up on that notion. Many of the Pacific Rim Nations are part of the "Orient", ie, the Far East.

An Asian friend of mine explained to me that only inanimate objects are "Oriental"... A rug is Oriental, a person is Asian. I think they're just splitting hairs... I don't give a fuck what people call me.

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> "Oriental" is not an ignorant term, and I have no
> idea where you picked up on that notion. Many of
> the Pacific Rim Nations are part of the "Orient",
> ie, the Far East.

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> An Asian friend of mine explained to me that only
> inanimate objects are "Oriental"... A rug is
> Oriental, a person is Asian.

Exactly

The Dude: Walter, the chinaman who peed on my rug, I can't go give him a bill, so what the fuck are you talking about?
Walter Sobchak: What the fuck are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
The Dude: Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here. This is a guy...
Walter Sobchak: What the fuck are you...?
The Dude: Walter, he peed on my rug!
Donny: He peed on the Dude's rug.
Walter Sobchak: Donny you're out of your element! Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here!

Calling all Asians Chinese is racist?
Posted by: cowell ()
Date: June 29, 2008 05:17PM


My friend calls this Korean dude that works with us "Chinaman". It cracks me up, but at the sametime i feel its wrong. How do i approach him about it

Tell him Koreans are called Gooks

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W.W.S.D. what would Scooby Doo

Koreans are Gooks
Chinese are Chinks
Japanese are Japs
Vietnamese are Slopes.

Got it?

Charels Martel Wrote:
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> Koreans are Gooks
> Chinese are Chinks
> Japanese are Japs
> Vietnamese are Slopes.
>
> Got it?

Japs can also be Nips... Gives you some wiggle room when using racially charged sentences.

chinaman lol

cowell Wrote:
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> My friend calls this Korean dude that works with
> us "Chinaman". It cracks me up, but at the
> sametime i feel its wrong. How do i approach him
> about it?

Stop whining and complaining, Big Head.

Jin refers to himself a chinky-eyed MC and a Chinaman. He speaks for all Chinese people in the world, and the days of the pork fried rice and the chicken wings coming to your house by him is over!

pgens Wrote:
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> How would you feel if you moved to Japan and
> everyone kept calling you a "brit"


did someone say "brit" - ;P

yeefuckinghaw

How about 'Chinkonese'? or 'Dirtynese'? or 'Lookatdese'!
That should cover the whole gambit, for the racially-sensitive impaired. (liberal-dogmatic anti-climatic hypocrite-in-denial closet-racists).

You know who you are. ..or maybe you don't

Holier-Than-Thou (GOD) Wrote:
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> How about 'Chinkonese'? or 'Dirtynese'? or
> 'Lookatdese'!


chinese japanese dirty knees look at these.

yeefuckinghaw

Shave and a hair cut to

Is this racist, because I have been laughing my ass off about this one for decades:

Actually the slang for Korean is gook

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Wahhh Wrote:
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> Is this racist, because I have been laughing my
> ass off about this one for decades:
>
>
>


LOL, I love the older cartoons, because they didn't succumb to our overly PC environment.

I used to have a dog named Blackie too.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

LoL

pgens Wrote:
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> How would you feel if you moved to Japan and
> everyone kept calling you a "brit" when you were
> really an American?


i'd be fucking happy who the fuck wants to be an "american" these days?

Keep it simple. Just refer to everyone not like you as "non white"

Calling all Asians "Chinese" isn't racist, it's just stupid.

Though racism is stupid, there's all sorts of stupid that isn't racist.