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I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Obamafans ()
Date: November 11, 2012 08:49PM

Anyone who would vote for such a lying and dishonest man who has lied basically about everything and gets away with it, cannot be trusted. Also, he is left of left. He's a socialist and if you voted for him, you must be one too.

Mit Romney was a liberal running asa "moderate" Republican, but I voted for him because at least he's not an extremeist.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 11, 2012 08:51PM

Let's hear one of Obama's lies. Be specific.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: libliars ()
Date: November 11, 2012 08:53PM

You shouldn't.

It's been shown that libs believe that it's OK to lie if it serves their purpose.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Get your head out his butt ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:01PM

Ito Wrote:
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> Let's hear one of Obama's lies. Be specific.

I will cut the deficit by half in my first term. I will close Gitmo. I will work with Republicans. Green energy will create 300K jobs. Obamacare will not add to the deficit. You will not have to change your insurance provider. Obamacare helps small business. I will help small businesses. The stimulus will reduce unemployment below 7%. The Muslim world will respect us again. Israel is a close ally. Should I go on?

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: I prefer briefs or boxers ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:01PM


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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Demographics ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:04PM

65% of MSNBC's audience are women.

About half of those are female.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: You've been shown ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:05PM

libliars Wrote:
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> You shouldn't.
>
> It's been shown that libs believe that it's OK to
> lie if it serves their purpose.


There's a lot of things you've been "shown" by Rush and Papa Bear. But that doesn't make them true.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:06PM

Get your head out his butt Wrote:
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> Should I go on?

Are these lies or broken campaign promises? One could argue that he at least attempted each of these.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Rachel Madcow ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:14PM

You've been shown Wrote:
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> libliars Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You shouldn't.
> >
> > It's been shown that libs believe that it's OK
> to
> > lie if it serves their purpose.
>
>
> There's a lot of things you've been "shown" by
> Rush and Papa Bear. But that doesn't make them
> true.
>
> Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not
> their own facts.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13819955/ns/us_news-life/t/lying-survey-results-glance/

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: yepperyep ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:35PM

Ito Wrote:
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> Get your head out his butt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Should I go on?
>
> Are these lies or broken campaign promises? One
> could argue that he at least attempted each of
> these.

That's true. None of these are outright lies. They're more like implausible propositions that had no hope of ever happening. Kind of like the raising revenue/closing loopholes/lowering rate argument that Romney made. That didn't stop everyone in the media and lefty pundit out there calling it a lie though.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: FUNdamental ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:51PM

Obamafans Wrote:
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> Anyone who would vote for such a lying and
> dishonest man who has lied basically about
> everything and gets away with it, cannot be
> trusted. Also, he is left of left. He's a
> socialist and if you voted for him, you must be
> one too.
>
> Mit Romney was a liberal running asa "moderate"
> Republican, but I voted for him because at least
> he's not an extremeist.

If someone uses the term "basically" when making an argument, it means they don't have a true grip on the facts.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: FUNdamental ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:53PM

You can lie about future outcomes? I thought future outcome are predictions.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Yaggo ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:54PM

Nobody gives a shit if you trust Obama supporters or not.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: ttaoi ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:56PM

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> You can lie about future outcomes? I thought
> future outcome are predictions.

Tell that to the fucking looney left who called Romney a liar over and over again for his predictions.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 11, 2012 10:03PM

The problem with Romney was that he had difficulty speaking about his own convictions and positions -- even disavowing things he said that were on video tape of him saying.

People rightly called Romney a liar when he ran ads on TV saying that Chrysler was going to close all of its factories and ship all their jobs to China. When called out on the lie by Chrysler, Jeep and even GM -- Romney not only didn't pull the ads, he doubled them.

Not just the looney left on that one. It cost him the election in Ohio, Wisconsin and Michigan.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: lailailai ()
Date: November 11, 2012 10:21PM

Ito Wrote:
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> The problem with Romney was that he had difficulty
> speaking about his own convictions and positions
> -- even disavowing things he said that were on
> video tape of him saying.
>
> People rightly called Romney a liar when he ran
> ads on TV saying that Chrysler was going to close
> all of its factories and ship all their jobs to
> China. When called out on the lie by Chrysler,
> Jeep and even GM -- Romney not only didn't pull
> the ads, he doubled them.
>
> Not just the looney left on that one. It cost him
> the election in Ohio, Wisconsin and Michigan.

Why didn't anyone call the president a liar when his campaign repeatedly called Mitt a felon and tax dodger without a shred of proof?

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: OLies ()
Date: November 11, 2012 10:21PM

Obama- If the Supreme Court throws out the federal health care law, it “would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact- Slim majority, not unprecedented)

Obama- “For the first time since 1990, American manufacturers are creating new jobs.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- “Preventive care … saves money, for families, for businesses, for government, for everybody.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact- Wrong in 2009, and wrong today)

Obama- “Thirty million Americans, including a lot of people in Florida, are going to be able to get healthcare next year because of that law.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- “I made a bunch of these promises during the campaign. … We’ve got about 60 percent done in three years.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact- “In the Works” does not equal “done”)

Obama Admin.- Under President Barack Obama, the United States has “doubled our exports.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama Admin.- The president’s proposed budget “will help reduce the deficit by $400 billion over the next decade to the lowest level since Dwight Eisenhower was president.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-A mangled reference to a prior talking point)

Obama- Under the White House’s budget proposal, “we will not be adding more to the national debt” by the middle of the decade.
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Revenue would equal outlays, but he ignores growing interest on the debt)

Obama- Twelve judges have thrown out legal challenges to the health care law because they rejected “the notion that the health care law was unconstitutional.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Score two to two on judges’ decisions on constitionality)

Obama- “I didn’t raise taxes once.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-We’ve tracked a few increases)

Obama- When President Franklin D. Roosevelt started Social Security, “it only affected widows and orphans,” and when Medicare began, “it was a small program.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-A grain of truth in the big picture, far off on the details)

Obama- The Bush administration had been “giving (auto companies) billions of dollars and just asking nothing in return.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- “The vast majority of the money I got was from small donors all across the country.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Big donors bankrolled much of Obama’s campaign)

Obama- “We’ve excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-We found at least four)

Obama- When Obama was interviewed by American reporters in Asia, “Not one of them asked me about Asia. Not one of them asked me about the economy.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-More than one did)

Obama- Insurers delayed an Illinois man’s treatment, “and he died because of it.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(Insurer’s decision was reversed and man lived three more years)

Obama- Health reform will “give every American the same opportunity” to buy health insurance the way members of Congress do.
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

Obama- Preventive care “saves money.”
Truth-O-Meter rating: False
(PolitiFact-Covering preventive care for everyone is a net cost)

Obama- (No earmarks in spending bill)
Truth-O-Meter rating: False

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 11, 2012 10:40PM

lailailai Wrote:
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> Why didn't anyone call the president a liar when
> his campaign repeatedly called Mitt a felon and
> tax dodger without a shred of proof?

I'd like to see a quote where his campaign called Mitt a felon and a tax dodger.

Quote?

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 11, 2012 10:45PM

OLies Wrote:
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> Obama- Preventive care “saves money.”
> Truth-O-Meter rating: False
> (PolitiFact-Covering preventive care for everyone
> is a net cost)

Do you know why preventative care is a net cost? Because people who find their cancer early end up going through potentially life-saving treatment which is very, very expensive.

If you simply die from not finding out that you have cancer early -- you save a whole lot of money.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Ito is a dumbshit ()
Date: November 11, 2012 10:50PM

Ito Wrote:
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> lailailai Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why didn't anyone call the president a liar
> when
> > his campaign repeatedly called Mitt a felon and
> > tax dodger without a shred of proof?
>
> I'd like to see a quote where his campaign called
> Mitt a felon and a tax dodger.
>
> Quote?

Here you go, shitforbrains. Next time try google, retard.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/07/obama-team-romney-committed-a-felony-or-lied-to-voters-128757.html

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Ito is a tranny ()
Date: November 11, 2012 10:52PM


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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 11, 2012 11:01PM

Ito is a dumbshit Wrote:
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> Here you go, shitforbrains. Next time try google,
> retard.
>
> http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/07/obama-t
> eam-romney-committed-a-felony-or-lied-to-voters-12
> 8757.html

Read the article, they were responding to a news report from the Boston Globe.

http://bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2012/07/11/government-documents-indicate-mitt-romney-continued-bain-after-date-when-says-left/IpfKYWjnrsel4pvCFbsUTI/story.html

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Stephanie Liar Cutter ()
Date: November 11, 2012 11:22PM

Ito Wrote:
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> Ito is a dumbshit Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here you go, shitforbrains. Next time try
> google,
> > retard.
> >
> >
> http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/07/obama-t
>
> >
> eam-romney-committed-a-felony-or-lied-to-voters-12
>
> > 8757.html
>
> Read the article, they were responding to a news
> report from the Boston Globe.
>
> http://bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2012/07/11/go
> vernment-documents-indicate-mitt-romney-continued-
> bain-after-date-when-says-left/IpfKYWjnrsel4pvCFbs
> UTI/story.html


So a slanted hit piece from the Globe justifies it?

lol

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 11, 2012 11:27PM

From the Globe article:

"In Romney’s 2002 race for governor, he testified before the state Ballot Law Commission that his separation from Bain in 1999 had been a “leave of absence” and not a final departure."

Who better to do a hit piece than a paper from Romney's home state? You know he wasn't a winner when he couldn't even carry the state he had been governor. Clinton always won Arkansas and Bush always won Texas.

He could have put a whole lot of controversy to bed if he had just released more than two years of tax returns.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Stephanie Designated Liar Cutter ()
Date: November 11, 2012 11:35PM

Ito Wrote:
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> From the Globe article:
>
> "In Romney’s 2002 race for governor, he
> testified before the state Ballot Law Commission
> that his separation from Bain in 1999 had been a
> “leave of absence” and not a final
> departure."
>
> Who better to do a hit piece than a paper from
> Romney's home state? You know he wasn't a winner
> when he couldn't even carry the state he had been
> governor. Clinton always won Arkansas and Bush
> always won Texas.
>
> He could have put a whole lot of controversy to
> bed if he had just released more than two years of
> tax returns.


BG is the New England section of the NYT.

MA's 75% Dem and always has been. Kennedy(s) and all ya know.

Not even remotely realistic. Put down the KoolAid.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Shut your face, Ito. ()
Date: November 11, 2012 11:36PM

In other words, you got nothing because you just got proven wrong. Be a man and admit you were wrong, sissy.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 11, 2012 11:46PM

Hey I'm wrong. The campaign did say that. I stand corrected. It certainly was never something Obama himself said.

Whether those were lies or not is still questionable.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: You are a moron ()
Date: November 12, 2012 12:35AM

Stephanie Designated Liar Cutter Wrote:
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> Ito Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > From the Globe article:
> >
> > "In Romney’s 2002 race for governor, he
> > testified before the state Ballot Law
> Commission
> > that his separation from Bain in 1999 had been
> a
> > “leave of absence” and not a final
> > departure."
> >
> > Who better to do a hit piece than a paper from
> > Romney's home state? You know he wasn't a
> winner
> > when he couldn't even carry the state he had
> been
> > governor. Clinton always won Arkansas and Bush
> > always won Texas.
> >
> > He could have put a whole lot of controversy to
> > bed if he had just released more than two years
> of
> > tax returns.
>
>
> BG is the New England section of the NYT.
>
> MA's 75% Dem and always has been. Kennedy(s) and
> all ya know.
>
> Not even remotely realistic. Put down the
> KoolAid.


You provide a link from Politico, that cites an article from the Boston Globe, and then you don't like what the Boston Globe says so now it's a left wing biased article? Then you declare victory over the entire discussion because the other person was wrong about one assertion?

So let me get this straight. Any news source you read is beyond reproach and everyone is supposed to take that as gospel and fact, but anything you determine (or more correctly, you've been told) to be liberal, we have to ignore or dismiss it?

You have a childish grasp of facts and reality, but you are too ignorant and poorly educated to ever figure that out. Fox News and all the right wing blogs you read have you convinced that you are smarter than everyone else because you consume their news. They tell you that anyone who disagrees with their facts is a liberal, and all other sources of news are biased toward the liberal agenda.

It's a shame. You probably have enough capacity to be smarter than this, but your entire worldview is manipulated and distorted.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Croak ()
Date: November 12, 2012 12:52AM

You are a moron Wrote:
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> Stephanie Designated Liar Cutter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ito Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > From the Globe article:
> > >
> > > "In Romney’s 2002 race for governor, he
> > > testified before the state Ballot Law
> > Commission
> > > that his separation from Bain in 1999 had
> been
> > a
> > > “leave of absence” and not a final
> > > departure."
> > >
> > > Who better to do a hit piece than a paper
> from
> > > Romney's home state? You know he wasn't a
> > winner
> > > when he couldn't even carry the state he had
> > been
> > > governor. Clinton always won Arkansas and
> Bush
> > > always won Texas.
> > >
> > > He could have put a whole lot of controversy
> to
> > > bed if he had just released more than two
> years
> > of
> > > tax returns.
> >
> >
> > BG is the New England section of the NYT.
> >
> > MA's 75% Dem and always has been. Kennedy(s)
> and
> > all ya know.
> >
> > Not even remotely realistic. Put down the
> > KoolAid.
>
>
> You provide a link from Politico, that cites an
> article from the Boston Globe, and then you don't
> like what the Boston Globe says so now it's a left
> wing biased article? Then you declare victory
> over the entire discussion because the other
> person was wrong about one assertion?
>
> So let me get this straight. Any news source you
> read is beyond reproach and everyone is supposed
> to take that as gospel and fact, but anything you
> determine (or more correctly, you've been told) to
> be liberal, we have to ignore or dismiss it?
>
> You have a childish grasp of facts and reality,
> but you are too ignorant and poorly educated to
> ever figure that out. Fox News and all the right
> wing blogs you read have you convinced that you
> are smarter than everyone else because you consume
> their news. They tell you that anyone who
> disagrees with their facts is a liberal, and all
> other sources of news are biased toward the
> liberal agenda.
>
> It's a shame. You probably have enough capacity
> to be smarter than this, but your entire worldview
> is manipulated and distorted.


WTF are you babbling about? lol

I posted that and I didn't post any link from Politico.

You jump to conclusions quick there Froggy. Seems most of your own comments apply equally to you.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: SoylentGreen ()
Date: November 12, 2012 06:03AM

Ito Wrote:
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> Hey I'm wrong. The campaign did say that. I stand
> corrected. It certainly was never something Obama
> himself said.
>
> Whether those were lies or not is still
> questionable.


Obama didn't build that campaign.........someone else did that for him.

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: ObamaLiarliar ()
Date: November 12, 2012 01:48PM

Obama Lied

-About where he was born
-That "Obamacare" won't cut effect current health insurance companies
-That he would fix the economy (its now worse)
-He said he wasn't Muslim. Then he admits he was a Muslim in another interview
-He said that gas prices had been spiking for years. Another lie

Want more lies from Obama?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/have-you-seen-the-list-of-75-documented-lies-that-obama-has-told/
-

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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: Ito ()
Date: November 12, 2012 02:35PM

ObamaLiarliar Wrote:
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> Obama Lied
>
> -About where he was born

When you start your list with this one, you lose a lot of credibility.


-That "Obamacare" won't cut effect current health insurance companies

What exactly are you trying to say here?

-He said he wasn't Muslim. Then he admits he was a Muslim in another interview

If you want to say that Obama attended Jerimiah Wright's church for 20 years, then he isn't a Muslim.

-He said that gas prices had been spiking for years. Another lie

Gas prices have been spiking for years. All you need to do is look at a chart of the Bush years. All of those wars and market speculation did a doozy on gasoline prices. All it takes is a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico and the price of gasoline spikes.
Attachments:
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Re: I don't trust Obama supporters...
Posted by: not all ()
Date: November 12, 2012 03:53PM

Ito Wrote:
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> Get your head out his butt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Should I go on?
>
> Are these lies or broken campaign promises? One
> could argue that he at least attempted each of
> these.


He never attempted to work with republicans. He had super majorities and rammed through what he wanted then thought working with republicans was having them go along with his plans. In fairness Harry Reid is more guilty of being a partisan hack and has single handedly done the most to ensure nothing has or will get done

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