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The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
dataminer
()
Date: November 08, 2012 06:26PM
Grab some popcorn and enjoy...
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/06/Tea-Party-Declares-WAR-On-GOP-Establishment
The Tea Party Patriots declared war on the Republican establishment after moderate establishment Republican Mitt Romney's loss to President Barack Obama on Tuesday.
Jenny Beth Martin, National Coordinator of Tea Party Patriots, criticized the Republican Party for hand-picking a Beltway elite candidate who did not campaign forcefully on America's founding principles and said the "presidential loss is unequivocally on them."
“For those of us who believe that America, as founded, is the greatest country in the history of the world – a ‘Shining city upon a hill’ – we wanted someone who would fight for us,” Martin said. “We wanted a fighter like Ronald Reagan who boldly championed America’s founding principles, who inspired millions of independents and ‘Reagan Democrats’ to join us, and who fought his leftist opponents on the idea that America, as founded, was a ‘Shining city upon a hill.’
Instead, Martin lamented, "what we got was a weak moderate candidate, hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country-club establishment wing of the Republican Party."
“While it might take longer to restore America’s founding principles with President Obama back in office, we are not going away," Martin said. "With the catastrophic loss of the Republican elite’s hand-picked candidate – the tea party is the last best hope America has to restore America’s founding principles."
Martin said the Tea Party's "work begins again today" and "we will turn our attention back to Congress, to fight the battles that lie ahead including balancing the budget, repealing Obamacare, cutting the debt, holding the line on the debt ceiling, and the many other issues that will arise to threaten America.”
Establishment Republicans insisted to the conservative base that Romney -- a moderate more in line with their sensibilities than those of the cloth-coat base's -- gave the party the best chance to win a general election.
They were wrong.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/06/Tea-Party-Declares-WAR-On-GOP-Establishment
The Tea Party Patriots declared war on the Republican establishment after moderate establishment Republican Mitt Romney's loss to President Barack Obama on Tuesday.
Jenny Beth Martin, National Coordinator of Tea Party Patriots, criticized the Republican Party for hand-picking a Beltway elite candidate who did not campaign forcefully on America's founding principles and said the "presidential loss is unequivocally on them."
“For those of us who believe that America, as founded, is the greatest country in the history of the world – a ‘Shining city upon a hill’ – we wanted someone who would fight for us,” Martin said. “We wanted a fighter like Ronald Reagan who boldly championed America’s founding principles, who inspired millions of independents and ‘Reagan Democrats’ to join us, and who fought his leftist opponents on the idea that America, as founded, was a ‘Shining city upon a hill.’
Instead, Martin lamented, "what we got was a weak moderate candidate, hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country-club establishment wing of the Republican Party."
“While it might take longer to restore America’s founding principles with President Obama back in office, we are not going away," Martin said. "With the catastrophic loss of the Republican elite’s hand-picked candidate – the tea party is the last best hope America has to restore America’s founding principles."
Martin said the Tea Party's "work begins again today" and "we will turn our attention back to Congress, to fight the battles that lie ahead including balancing the budget, repealing Obamacare, cutting the debt, holding the line on the debt ceiling, and the many other issues that will arise to threaten America.”
Establishment Republicans insisted to the conservative base that Romney -- a moderate more in line with their sensibilities than those of the cloth-coat base's -- gave the party the best chance to win a general election.
They were wrong.
Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
easteurope
()
Date: November 08, 2012 06:30PM
Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
BigK
()
Date: November 08, 2012 06:31PM
I love it. If they had one of there candidate running they would have lost by much more. They really should split and form there own party then the Republicans could distance themselves from the crazy fools. What lost for them was them trying to cater to these idiots.
Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
FUNdamental
()
Date: November 08, 2012 06:40PM
Haha! Tea bagging senate candidates all lost their bids! West and Walsh both lost!
Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
Olde Farte, II
()
Date: November 08, 2012 06:43PM
BigK Wrote:
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> I love it. If they had one of there candidate
> running they would have lost by much more. They
> really should split and form there own party then
> the Republicans could distance themselves from the
> crazy fools. What lost for them was them trying
> to cater to these idiots.
While true, hindsight tends to hide some important context - if the Republicans had NOT kowtowed to the crazies, they would have been voted out next time a primary rolled around (a few years ago). The country's mood might be different now.
We'll see!
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> I love it. If they had one of there candidate
> running they would have lost by much more. They
> really should split and form there own party then
> the Republicans could distance themselves from the
> crazy fools. What lost for them was them trying
> to cater to these idiots.
While true, hindsight tends to hide some important context - if the Republicans had NOT kowtowed to the crazies, they would have been voted out next time a primary rolled around (a few years ago). The country's mood might be different now.
We'll see!
Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
Yucky24.
()
Date: November 08, 2012 06:51PM
This isn't Reagan-era America anymore, you idiots.
That's when America was roughly 85% White and most Americans were relatively conservative compared to modern mongo Americans.
America is only 63% White now and voting in favor of gay marriage, drug use, food stamps, "free" health care, $20 trillion in debt and turning America even more brown.
The war for America is over. The Left won.
Due to sheer demographics and the Left controlling our popular culture, the Right will never win another national election and Obama will now make the Supreme Court Left.
It's now time for the Right to join the Left and ensure that the collapse of America happens as soon as possible in order for there to be a chance for us to start over from scratch.
That's when America was roughly 85% White and most Americans were relatively conservative compared to modern mongo Americans.
America is only 63% White now and voting in favor of gay marriage, drug use, food stamps, "free" health care, $20 trillion in debt and turning America even more brown.
The war for America is over. The Left won.
Due to sheer demographics and the Left controlling our popular culture, the Right will never win another national election and Obama will now make the Supreme Court Left.
It's now time for the Right to join the Left and ensure that the collapse of America happens as soon as possible in order for there to be a chance for us to start over from scratch.
Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
BigK
()
Date: November 08, 2012 06:55PM
What crap is that...collapse of America. Amazing what stupid things people come up with. Right join the Left......I am sure that will happen...LOL
Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
Teabags Rulez!
()
Date: November 08, 2012 11:16PM
dataminer Wrote:
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>
> The Tea Party Patriots declared war on the
> Republican establishment after moderate
> establishment Republican Mitt Romney's loss to
> President Barack Obama on Tuesday.
> Jenny Beth Martin, National Coordinator of Tea
> Party Patriots, criticized the Republican Party
> for hand-picking a Beltway elite candidate who did
> not campaign forcefully on America's founding
> principles and said the "presidential loss is
> unequivocally on them."
>
When was Romney in a political position inside the beltway? Does Boston have a beltway?
> “For those of us who believe that America, as
> founded, is the greatest country in the history of
> the world – a ‘Shining city upon a hill’ –
> we wanted someone who would fight for us,”
> Martin said. “We wanted a fighter like Ronald
> Reagan who boldly championed America’s founding
> principles, who inspired millions of independents
> and ‘Reagan Democrats’ to join us, and who
> fought his leftist opponents on the idea that
> America, as founded, was a ‘Shining city upon a
> hill.’
The religious context of "shining city upon a hill" aside, I don't recall Reagan ever fighting any leftist opponents over some idea about it being what america was founded on, for, or about. I'm pretty sure he simply made a speech once where he used that phrase as a dog whistle to the religious right. Nobody fought him over it.
> Instead, Martin lamented, "what we got was a weak
> moderate candidate, hand-picked by the Beltway
> elites and country-club establishment wing of the
> Republican Party."
>
So the tea party sat out the primaries? Not a single tea party voter cast a single ballot?
If I recall, the real problem was the tea party faction fielded way too many primary candidates and watered down their own votes. They made the mistake of thinking more tea party candidates meant more chances of winning.
> “While it might take longer to restore
> America’s founding principles with President
> Obama back in office, we are not going away,"
> Martin said. "With the catastrophic loss of the
> Republican elite’s hand-picked candidate – the
> tea party is the last best hope America has to
> restore America’s founding principles."
I can hear the patriotic music in the background. Thank god those old, crotchety folks will restore america to its founding principles. 3/5th of black people are grateful, as well.
> Martin said the Tea Party's "work begins again
> today" and "we will turn our attention back to
> Congress, to fight the battles that lie ahead
> including balancing the budget, repealing
> Obamacare, cutting the debt, holding the line on
> the debt ceiling, and the many other issues that
> will arise, to threaten America.” <-- see what I did there? Fixed it.
> Establishment Republicans insisted to the
> conservative base that Romney -- a moderate more
> in line with their sensibilities than those of the
> cloth-coat base's -- gave the party the best
> chance to win a general election.
> They were wrong.
Then the tea party should have picked just one nutball to run in the primaries, instead of 7. I don't know if anyone ever explained to them how primaries work, but you don't win by having more of your types running, because all those old people got confused and voted for whichever Crazy made the most noise in the days leading up to the voting in their state.
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> The Tea Party Patriots declared war on the
> Republican establishment after moderate
> establishment Republican Mitt Romney's loss to
> President Barack Obama on Tuesday.
> Jenny Beth Martin, National Coordinator of Tea
> Party Patriots, criticized the Republican Party
> for hand-picking a Beltway elite candidate who did
> not campaign forcefully on America's founding
> principles and said the "presidential loss is
> unequivocally on them."
>
When was Romney in a political position inside the beltway? Does Boston have a beltway?
> “For those of us who believe that America, as
> founded, is the greatest country in the history of
> the world – a ‘Shining city upon a hill’ –
> we wanted someone who would fight for us,”
> Martin said. “We wanted a fighter like Ronald
> Reagan who boldly championed America’s founding
> principles, who inspired millions of independents
> and ‘Reagan Democrats’ to join us, and who
> fought his leftist opponents on the idea that
> America, as founded, was a ‘Shining city upon a
> hill.’
The religious context of "shining city upon a hill" aside, I don't recall Reagan ever fighting any leftist opponents over some idea about it being what america was founded on, for, or about. I'm pretty sure he simply made a speech once where he used that phrase as a dog whistle to the religious right. Nobody fought him over it.
> Instead, Martin lamented, "what we got was a weak
> moderate candidate, hand-picked by the Beltway
> elites and country-club establishment wing of the
> Republican Party."
>
So the tea party sat out the primaries? Not a single tea party voter cast a single ballot?
If I recall, the real problem was the tea party faction fielded way too many primary candidates and watered down their own votes. They made the mistake of thinking more tea party candidates meant more chances of winning.
> “While it might take longer to restore
> America’s founding principles with President
> Obama back in office, we are not going away,"
> Martin said. "With the catastrophic loss of the
> Republican elite’s hand-picked candidate – the
> tea party is the last best hope America has to
> restore America’s founding principles."
I can hear the patriotic music in the background. Thank god those old, crotchety folks will restore america to its founding principles. 3/5th of black people are grateful, as well.
> Martin said the Tea Party's "work begins again
> today" and "we will turn our attention back to
> Congress, to fight the battles that lie ahead
> including balancing the budget, repealing
> Obamacare, cutting the debt, holding the line on
> the debt ceiling, and the many other issues that
> will arise, to threaten America.” <-- see what I did there? Fixed it.
> Establishment Republicans insisted to the
> conservative base that Romney -- a moderate more
> in line with their sensibilities than those of the
> cloth-coat base's -- gave the party the best
> chance to win a general election.
> They were wrong.
Then the tea party should have picked just one nutball to run in the primaries, instead of 7. I don't know if anyone ever explained to them how primaries work, but you don't win by having more of your types running, because all those old people got confused and voted for whichever Crazy made the most noise in the days leading up to the voting in their state.
Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
getistraight
()
Date: November 09, 2012 09:32AM
Best thing the GOP is drive a deep wedge between the Tea Party and them. Let them jump ship. Every election will have a Conservative choice and Liberal choice, conservative will come back to picking what suits them. The stated quite clearly I am not going to vote crazy....and they stayed home this election.
Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
PMFS
()
Date: November 09, 2012 10:24AM
getistraight Wrote:
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> Best thing the GOP is drive a deep wedge between
> the Tea Party and them. Let them jump ship.
> Every election will have a Conservative choice and
> Liberal choice, conservative will come back to
> picking what suits them. The stated quite clearly
> I am not going to vote crazy....and they stayed
> home this election.
Not going to happen. The Tea Party Caucus in the House of Representatives is still there and not going away.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Best thing the GOP is drive a deep wedge between
> the Tea Party and them. Let them jump ship.
> Every election will have a Conservative choice and
> Liberal choice, conservative will come back to
> picking what suits them. The stated quite clearly
> I am not going to vote crazy....and they stayed
> home this election.
Not going to happen. The Tea Party Caucus in the House of Representatives is still there and not going away.
Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
FUNdamental
()
Date: November 09, 2012 10:35AM
PMFS Wrote:
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> getistraight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Best thing the GOP is drive a deep wedge
> between
> > the Tea Party and them. Let them jump ship.
> > Every election will have a Conservative choice
> and
> > Liberal choice, conservative will come back to
> > picking what suits them. The stated quite
> clearly
> > I am not going to vote crazy....and they stayed
> > home this election.
>
> Not going to happen. The Tea Party Caucus in the
> House of Representatives is still there and not
> going away.
West and Walsh both lost their seat withing two years of first election. The Tea Party brand in now poison for many members of Congress.
-------------------------------------------------------
> getistraight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Best thing the GOP is drive a deep wedge
> between
> > the Tea Party and them. Let them jump ship.
> > Every election will have a Conservative choice
> and
> > Liberal choice, conservative will come back to
> > picking what suits them. The stated quite
> clearly
> > I am not going to vote crazy....and they stayed
> > home this election.
>
> Not going to happen. The Tea Party Caucus in the
> House of Representatives is still there and not
> going away.
West and Walsh both lost their seat withing two years of first election. The Tea Party brand in now poison for many members of Congress.
Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
Bag of Douche
()
Date: November 09, 2012 10:45AM
Yucky24. Wrote:
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> This isn't Reagan-era America anymore, you
> idiots.
>
> That's when America was roughly 85% White and most
> Americans were relatively conservative compared to
> modern mongo Americans.
>
> America is only 63% White now and voting in favor
> of gay marriage, drug use, food stamps, "free"
> health care, $20 trillion in debt and turning
> America even more brown.
>
> The war for America is over. The Left won.
>
> Due to sheer demographics and the Left controlling
> our popular culture, the Right will never win
> another national election and Obama will now make
> the Supreme Court Left.
>
> It's now time for the Right to join the Left and
> ensure that the collapse of America happens as
> soon as possible in order for there to be a chance
> for us to start over from scratch.
Read a f*cking book, Douchebag.
*
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> This isn't Reagan-era America anymore, you
> idiots.
>
> That's when America was roughly 85% White and most
> Americans were relatively conservative compared to
> modern mongo Americans.
>
> America is only 63% White now and voting in favor
> of gay marriage, drug use, food stamps, "free"
> health care, $20 trillion in debt and turning
> America even more brown.
>
> The war for America is over. The Left won.
>
> Due to sheer demographics and the Left controlling
> our popular culture, the Right will never win
> another national election and Obama will now make
> the Supreme Court Left.
>
> It's now time for the Right to join the Left and
> ensure that the collapse of America happens as
> soon as possible in order for there to be a chance
> for us to start over from scratch.
Read a f*cking book, Douchebag.
*
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Re: The Republican Civil War Has Started...first shots fired
Posted by:
PMFS
()
Date: November 09, 2012 11:36AM
FUNdamental Wrote:
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> PMFS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > getistraight Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Best thing the GOP is drive a deep wedge
> > between
> > > the Tea Party and them. Let them jump ship.
> > > Every election will have a Conservative
> choice
> > and
> > > Liberal choice, conservative will come back
> to
> > > picking what suits them. The stated quite
> > clearly
> > > I am not going to vote crazy....and they
> stayed
> > > home this election.
> >
> > Not going to happen. The Tea Party Caucus in
> the
> > House of Representatives is still there and not
> > going away.
>
> West and Walsh both lost their seat withing two
> years of first election. The Tea Party brand in
> now poison for many members of Congress.
They will answer to their constituents who sent them there in the first place.
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> PMFS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > getistraight Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Best thing the GOP is drive a deep wedge
> > between
> > > the Tea Party and them. Let them jump ship.
> > > Every election will have a Conservative
> choice
> > and
> > > Liberal choice, conservative will come back
> to
> > > picking what suits them. The stated quite
> > clearly
> > > I am not going to vote crazy....and they
> stayed
> > > home this election.
> >
> > Not going to happen. The Tea Party Caucus in
> the
> > House of Representatives is still there and not
> > going away.
>
> West and Walsh both lost their seat withing two
> years of first election. The Tea Party brand in
> now poison for many members of Congress.
They will answer to their constituents who sent them there in the first place.