I thought if you were a convicted ex-felon you weren't aloud to vote period, but the right voting is determined on State basis.

Virginia is one of only 15 States that does not allow ex-felons to vote. (A DWI is felony conviction)

http://www.hrw.org/reports98/vote/usvot98o.htm

Most remarkably, in fourteen states, ex-offenders who have fully served their sentences nonetheless remain disenfranchised.10 Ten of these states disenfranchise ex-felons for life: Alabama, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Kentucky, Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, Virginia, and Wyoming. Arizona and Maryland disenfranchise permanently those convicted of a second felony; and Tennessee and Washington disenfranchise permanently those convicted prior to 1986 and 1984, respectively. In addition, in Texas, a convicted felons right to vote is not restored until two years after discharge from prison, probation or parole.

As long as VA is controlled by republikans that policy will not change. The fact is too many "good" people are convicted felons...taking their right to vote away is nothing more then a planned disenfranchisement of minorities.

Sorry Lurker, but DWI is a misdemeanor in Virginia, unless it's a third strike,habitual offender, or vehicular manslaughter (DWI) offense.


Lurker.. Wrote:
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>
> Virginia is one of only 15 States that does not
> allow ex-felons to vote. (A DWI is felony
> conviction)
>
> http://www.hrw.org/reports98/vote/usvot98o.htm
>
>
> Most remarkably, in fourteen states,
> ex-offenders who have fully served their sentences
> nonetheless remain disenfranchised.10 Ten of
> these states disenfranchise ex-felons for life:
> Alabama, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Kentucky,
> Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, Virginia, and
> Wyoming. Arizona and Maryland disenfranchise
> permanently those convicted of a second felony;
> and Tennessee and Washington disenfranchise
> permanently those convicted prior to 1986 and
> 1984, respectively. In addition, in Texas, a
> convicted felons right to vote is not
> restored until two years after discharge from
> prison, probation or parole.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/11/2008 10:29PM by DeathByCop.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/10/2012 02:53AM by Alias.

People in jail should *not* be allowed to vote.

People who aren't in jail *should* be allowed to vote.

Do we really need to distiguish it any further?

LOL...Although I believe a first time felon, once released, should be given the chance to petition to have his rights reinstatied if his crime was non aggravated/violent, non monetary, and non sexual in nature. I also believe first time felons, exonerated via exculpatory evidence introduced later, should be pardoned, compensated, and have all rights reinstated.


TheMeeper Wrote:
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> People in jail should *not* be allowed to vote.
>
> People who aren't in jail *should* be allowed to
> vote.
>
> Do we really need to distiguish it any further?

Alias Wrote:
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> Vince(1) wrote:
>
> "The fact is too many "good" people are convicted
> felons...taking their right to vote away is
> nothing more then a planned disenfranchisement of
> minorities."
>
> Vince, WTF is going on with all the arrests of
> 'good' black people.


I can tell you whats going on...They cant believe people like you are given a life of privelege and you dont even recognize it..you are blind.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/10/2012 02:52AM by Alias.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> People in jail should *not* be allowed to vote.
>
> People who aren't in jail *should* be allowed to
> vote.
>
> Do we really need to distiguish it any further?


+1


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> People in jail should *not* be allowed to vote.
>
> People who aren't in jail *should* be allowed to
> vote.
>
> Do we really need to distiguish it any further?


+1

First he writes:


Vince(1) wrote:

"The fact is too many "good" people are convicted felons...taking their right to vote away is nothing more then a planned disenfranchisement of minorities."

Vince, WTF is going on with all the arrests of 'good' black people.



then he writes +1 on Meeper's comment...



Vince(1) Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > People in jail should *not* be allowed to vote.
> >
> > People who aren't in jail *should* be allowed
> to
> > vote.
> >
> > Do we really need to distiguish it any further?
>
>
> +1


Vince, you would make a great politician. Talk about flip flopping on issues!

Well, maybe unlike some I am capable of evolving/learning...if I understood Meeper correctly he is saying once a felon is out of jail he/she may vote...while in prisonthey cant. My earlier post addresses perons convicted of felonies (those currently serving time and those who have served their time). I think his proposal is a fair compromise. While serving your time...you cant vote...but once youve served your time you can. That policy would be a big step forward in VA.

That is exactly what I meant. It is ridiculous to claim we are a free country when citizens have been stripped of their right to vote. That is the polar opposite of a free society.




Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Well, maybe unlike some I am capable of
> evolving/learning...if I understood Meeper
> correctly he is saying once a felon is out of jail
> he/she may vote...while in prisonthey cant. My
> earlier post addresses perons convicted of
> felonies (those currently serving time and those
> who have served their time). I think his proposal
> is a fair compromise. While serving your
> time...you cant vote...but once youve served your
> time you can. That policy would be a big step
> forward in VA.

I doubt a Cro-Magnon like you is capable of evolving. I just think that for the bleeding liberal you try to pass yourself off as, you show your true colors by flip flopping on this issue. Whatever happened to consistency when it comes to issues? You should run for Senate, NOT!!!!!! I'm sure Meeper is against felons having the right to vote. Have you read any of his posts? Although a liberal by FU standards, he has no sympathy or patience for criminals and lawbreakers in general.


Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Well, maybe unlike some I am capable of
> evolving/learning...if I understood Meeper
> correctly he is saying once a felon is out of jail
> he/she may vote...while in prisonthey cant. My
> earlier post addresses perons convicted of
> felonies (those currently serving time and those
> who have served their time). I think his proposal
> is a fair compromise. While serving your
> time...you cant vote...but once youve served your
> time you can. That policy would be a big step
> forward in VA.

DeathByCop Wrote:
> I'm sure Meeper is against felons having the right to vote. Have you read any of his posts? Although a liberal by FU standards, he has no sympathy or patience for criminals and lawbreakers in general.


What are you talking about?

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> DeathByCop Wrote:
> > I'm sure Meeper is against felons having the
> right to vote. Have you read any of his posts?
> Although a liberal by FU standards, he has no
> sympathy or patience for criminals and lawbreakers
> in general.
>
>
> What are you talking about?


That's just the impression I got from your comments about people getting in trouble w/ the law. If I was incorrect in my supposition, I apologize.

Well I'm definitely not on of the pro-law enforcement guys on the board.


DeathByCop Wrote:
> That's just the impression I got from your
> comments about people getting in trouble w/ the
> law. If I was incorrect in my supposition, I
> apologize.

DeathByCop Wrote:
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> I doubt a Cro-Magnon like you is capable of
> evolving. I just think that for the bleeding
> liberal you try to pass yourself off as, you show
> your true colors by flip flopping on this issue.
> Whatever happened to consistency when it comes to
> issues? You should run for Senate, NOT!!!!!! I'm
> sure Meeper is against felons having the right to
> vote. Have you read any of his posts? Although a
> liberal by FU standards, he has no sympathy or
> patience for criminals and lawbreakers in
> general.
>

Last time I looked it up...patience was a virtue. I gladly wear that shroud. I do not think most would consider my evolution on the issue as flip flopping..merely evolving...Meeper has shown me the error of my ways by logic. Try it sometime before calling someone names....like a kindergartener.

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> People in jail should *not* be allowed to vote.
>
> People who aren't in jail *should* be allowed to
> vote.
>
> Do we really need to distiguish it any further?


I disagree. All US citizens should be allowed to vote even if they are in jail.