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Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: RichmondVinylphile ()
Date: June 10, 2008 07:39PM

Told ya !

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/10/vinyl.records.ap/index.html

PORTLAND, Oregon (AP) -- It was a fortuitous typo for the Fred Meyer retail chain.
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The best-seller so far at Fred Meyer is The Beatles album "Abbey Road."

This spring, an employee intending to order a special CD-DVD edition of R.E.M.'s latest release "Accelerate" inadvertently entered the "LP" code instead. Soon boxes of the big, vinyl discs showed up at several stores.

Some sent them back. But a handful put them on the shelves, and 20 LPs sold the first day.

The Portland-based company, owned by The Kroger Co., realized the error might not be so bad after all. Fred Meyer is now testing vinyl sales at 60 of its stores in Oregon, Washington and Alaska. The company says, based on the response so far, it plans to roll out vinyl in July in all its stores that sell music.

Other mainstream retailers are giving vinyl a spin too. Best Buy is testing sales at some stores. And online music giant Amazon.com, which has sold vinyl for most of the 13 years it has been in business online, created a special vinyl-only section last fall.

The best-seller so far at Fred Meyer is The Beatles album "Abbey Road." But musicians from the White Stripes and the Foo Fighters to Metallica and Pink Floyd are selling well, the company says.

"It's not just a nostalgia thing," said Melinda Merrill, spokeswoman for Fred Meyer. "The response from customers has just been that they like it, they feel like it has a better sound."

According to the Recording Industry Association of America, manufacturers' shipments of LPs jumped more than 36 percent from 2006 to 2007 to more than 1.3 million. Shipments of CDs dropped more than 17 percent during the same period to 511 million, as they lost some ground to digital formats.

The resurgence of vinyl centers on a long-standing debate over analog versus digital sound. Digital recordings capture samples of sound and place them very close together as a complete package that sounds nearly identical to continuous sound to many people.

Analog recordings on most LPs are continuous, which produces a truer sound -- though, paradoxically, some new LP releases are being recorded and mixed digitally but delivered analog.

Some purists also argue that the compression required to allow loudness in some digital formats weakens the quality as well.

But it's not just about the sound. Audiophiles say they also want the format's overall experience -- the sensory experience of putting the needle on the record, the feeling of side A and side B and the joy of lingering over the liner notes.

"I think music products should be more than just music," said Isaac Hudson, a 28-year-old vinyl fan standing outside one of Portland's larger independent music stores.

The interest seems to be catching on. Turntable sales are picking up, and the few remaining record pressers say business is booming.

But the LP isn't going to muscle out CDs or iPod soon.

Nearly 450 million CDs were sold last year, versus just under 1 million LPs, according to Nielsen SoundScan. Based on the first three months of this year, Nielsen says vinyl album sales could reach 1.6 million in 2008.

"I don't think vinyl is for everyone; it's for the die-hard music consumer," said Jay Millar, director of marketing at United Record Pressing, a Nashville based company that is the nation's largest record pressing plant.

Many major artists -- Elvis Costello, the Raconteurs and others -- are issuing LPs and encouraging fans to check out their albums on vinyl. On Amazon.com, one of the best-selling LPs is Madonna's latest album, "Hard Candy".

Some artists package vinyl and digital versions of their music together, including offers for free digital downloads along with the record.

"We've definitely had some talks with the major retailers about exclusives on the manufacturing end," Millar said of United Record Pressing, which focuses primarily on independent recordings.

An avid music fan himself, Millar says he has moved to vinyl in recent years.

"Once I got my first iPod ... I'm looking at my wall of CDs and trying to justify it," Millar said. "The things I like -- the artwork, the liner notes, the sound quality -- it dawns on me, those are things I like better on vinyl." He welcomed back the pops and clicks, even some of the scratches.

"I like that fact that it's imperfect in a lot of ways, live music is imperfect too," Millar said.

Independent music stores, which have been the primary source of LPs in recent years, say many fans never left the medium.

"People have been buying vinyl all along," said Cathy Hagen, manager at 2nd Avenue Records in Portland. "There was a fairly good supply from independent labels on vinyl all these years. As far as a resurgence, the major labels are just pressing more now."

In this game, big retailers aren't necessarily competing head to head with independent sellers' regular clientele of nostalgic baby boomers, independent label fans and turntable DJs.

"I cannot see that Best Buy or Fred Meyer would order the same things we would," Hagen said. "They aren't going to be ordering the reggae, funk, punk or industrial music

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: June 11, 2008 09:41AM

Vinyl sucks. Whatever benefits one may get from vinyl (warmer sound, less choppiness due to analog versus digital tracking) quickly goes away as the vinyl degrades after a few spins. Basically the needle destroys the quality of the record, resulting in less fidelity and popping, snapping and hissing in the background.

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Re: Vinyl sucks!
Posted by: Jester ()
Date: June 11, 2008 09:58AM

We have already established that vinyl is poor quality.

The only people using vinyl are:

1) People who had large record collections before CD's

2) Meade Skelton who shops at the local thrift stores because he can't earn enough money at jobs to afford CDs.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: Vinylphile ()
Date: June 11, 2008 02:53PM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Vinyl sucks. Whatever benefits one may get from
> vinyl (warmer sound, less choppiness due to analog
> versus digital tracking) quickly goes away as the
> vinyl degrades after a few spins. Basically the
> needle destroys the quality of the record,
> resulting in less fidelity and popping, snapping
> and hissing in the background.


Vinyl does not degrade if taken care of, and popping and hissing is minimized on older records with a great needle and stylus.

Its the only format that can produce high fideltiy sound. CDs on the other hand can also making clicking noises when not cleaned- they can also get stuck on tracks- just as records to, while producing a cold, harsh, compressed sound

On my hi fi stereo I have records that are over 50 years old that sound like they were recorded yesterday.

Needles do not wear out vinyl, unless the needle is bad. Thats why you should replace needles after about 800-900 spins.

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Re: Vinyl is King
Posted by: Vinylphile ()
Date: June 11, 2008 02:56PM

Jester Wrote:
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> We have already established that vinyl is poor
> quality.
>
> The only people using vinyl are:
>
> 1) People who had large record collections before
> CD's
>
> 2) Meade Skelton who shops at the local thrift
> stores because he can't earn enough money at jobs
> to afford CDs.


Vinyl is NOT poor quality. Compact discs are. CDs are toy discs. Most DJs dont even regard them, if they do, its lightly. DJs prefer vinyl because it sounds better.

Dont forget the Hipsters collect vinyl. Most of them were born after 1977.

Face it. The industry lied to us. CDs DO NOT last forever. They blow.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: June 11, 2008 03:09PM

Vinylphile Wrote:
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>
> Needles do not wear out vinyl, unless the needle
> is bad. Thats why you should replace needles after
> about 800-900 spins.


The sound from vinyl is produced by the friction between the needle and the vinyl. The sound you hear is the sound of the diamond-head in the needle eroding the vinyl.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: Vinylphile ()
Date: June 11, 2008 03:11PM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Vinylphile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Needles do not wear out vinyl, unless the
> needle
> > is bad. Thats why you should replace needles
> after
> > about 800-900 spins.
>
>
> The sound from vinyl is produced by the friction
> between the needle and the vinyl. The sound you
> hear is the sound of the diamond-head in the
> needle eroding the vinyl.


That is not true. If that were true than records I have from the 50s and 60s would be unplayable. They sound great Wow, nobody hear knows a damn about records.

Allow me demonstrate:





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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: June 11, 2008 04:25PM

Vinylphile Wrote:
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>
> That is not true. If that were true than records I
> have from the 50s and 60s would be unplayable.
> They sound great Wow, nobody hear knows a damn
> about records.
>
> Allow me demonstrate:
>
>

Ummm....this clip is DIGITAL fuckhead! How am I supposed to judge the quality of an analog LP from a digital copy????

You don't "know a damn" about anything, do you?

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: Vinylphile ()
Date: June 11, 2008 05:33PM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Vinylphile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > That is not true. If that were true than records
> I
> > have from the 50s and 60s would be unplayable.
> > They sound great Wow, nobody hear knows a damn
> > about records.
> >
> > Allow me demonstrate:
> >
> >
>
> Ummm....this clip is DIGITAL fuckhead! How am I
> supposed to judge the quality of an analog LP from
> a digital copy????
>
> You don't "know a damn" about anything, do you?


Actually its both analog and digital. It was recorded on a Sony Hi 8 tape

of course its a recording of a recording so its not like you're hearing it live, but you can still see how good they sound.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: June 11, 2008 08:03PM

Vinylphile Wrote:
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> WashingToneLocian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vinylphile Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > That is not true. If that were true than
> records
> > I
> > > have from the 50s and 60s would be
> unplayable.
> > > They sound great Wow, nobody hear knows a
> damn
> > > about records.
> > >
> > > Allow me demonstrate:
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ummm....this clip is DIGITAL fuckhead! How am I
> > supposed to judge the quality of an analog LP
> from
> > a digital copy????
> >
> > You don't "know a damn" about anything, do you?
>
>
> Actually its both analog and digital. It was
> recorded on a Sony Hi 8 tape
>
> of course its a recording of a recording so its
> not like you're hearing it live, but you can still
> see how good they sound.



did you eat paint chips as a kid?


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: DeathByCop ()
Date: June 11, 2008 08:27PM

Vinylphile Wrote:
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>
> of course its a recording of a recording so its
> not like you're hearing it live, but you can still
> see how good they sound.


Meade, how does one see how good vinyl sounds on video via the net? Unless you are on acid, I cannot fathom anyone seeing sounds!!!!!

However, if anyone can, I'm sure your crazy ass can do it.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: Vinylphile ()
Date: June 11, 2008 08:41PM

DeathByCop Wrote:
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> Vinylphile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > of course its a recording of a recording so its
> > not like you're hearing it live, but you can
> still
> > see how good they sound.
>
>
> Meade, how does one see how good vinyl sounds on
> video via the net? Unless you are on acid, I
> cannot fathom anyone seeing sounds!!!!!
>
> However, if anyone can, I'm sure your crazy ass
> can do it.


Surely you aren't implying I use drugs!

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: June 11, 2008 09:52PM

Vinylphile Wrote:
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> Actually its both analog and digital. It was
> recorded on a Sony Hi 8 tape
>
> of course its a recording of a recording so its
> not like you're hearing it live, but you can still
> see how good they sound.


Good God you are dumb! It's not analog on YOUTUBE!!!!! The Internet isn't analog! Do you not get the concept?

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: DeathByCop ()
Date: June 11, 2008 10:47PM

Great qoutes:


"It's not live... it's Memorex" Old Memorex ad


"It's not analog...it's YOUTUBE!" [sic] ToneLoc


"It's not retardation...it's Meade!" DBC



LOL




WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Vinylphile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Actually its both analog and digital. It was
> > recorded on a Sony Hi 8 tape
> >
> > of course its a recording of a recording so its
> > not like you're hearing it live, but you can
> still
> > see how good they sound.
>
>
> Good God you are dumb! It's not analog on
> YOUTUBE!!!!! The Internet isn't analog! Do you not
> get the concept?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/11/2008 10:48PM by DeathByCop.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: VinylPhile ()
Date: June 11, 2008 10:51PM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Vinylphile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Actually its both analog and digital. It was
> > recorded on a Sony Hi 8 tape
> >
> > of course its a recording of a recording so its
> > not like you're hearing it live, but you can
> still
> > see how good they sound.
>
>
> Good God you are dumb! It's not analog on
> YOUTUBE!!!!! The Internet isn't analog! Do you not
> get the concept?


Are you the dumb one?
Dont you understand I'm playing it on a record player which is ANALOG silly

Just because its recorded with a hybrid analog/digital camera doesnt mean the record player isnt producing the sound.

Duh!

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: DeathByCop ()
Date: June 11, 2008 11:06PM

Not again, Stimpy! Let it go, you're a lost cause...GAME OVER!!!!!!!

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: June 12, 2008 03:05AM

VinylPhile Wrote:
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> Dont you understand I'm playing it on a record
> player which is ANALOG silly


so why dont you just put all your songs on youtube and ditch the vinyl?

file.php?40,file=2442
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: lol ()
Date: June 12, 2008 07:03AM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Good God you are dumb! It's not analog on
> YOUTUBE!!!!! The Internet isn't analog! Do you not
> get the concept?


lol gravis is right... "whut" is the bast question to ask after this dumb post. a digital recording is usually digitally sourced and digitally mastered... a digital recording of an analog source is simply delivering an analog recording over a digital medium... bfd. this poster must think taking a picture of an old photo with a digital camera makes the old photo a crisp digital masterpiece. what a dope.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: June 12, 2008 09:48AM

lol Wrote:
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>
>
> lol gravis is right... "whut" is the bast question
> to ask after this dumb post. a digital recording
> is usually digitally sourced and digitally
> mastered... a digital recording of an analog
> source is simply delivering an analog recording
> over a digital medium... bfd. this poster must
> think taking a picture of an old photo with a
> digital camera makes the old photo a crisp digital
> masterpiece. what a dope.


Meade believes vinyl is superior to CDs because it is delivering an analog recording while CDs are delivering an inferior recording because of sampling rate and compression. What do you think happens when you convert an analog recording and put it on YouTube? It is subjected to the same kind of sampling rate and compression that occurs when a recording is put on a CD. In fact, the quality of the conversion will be significantly worse going onto YouTube than it would be for a CD!!! Of course, Meade is too dumb to figure this out.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: June 12, 2008 10:29AM

While I might slightly agree that vinyl has a "brighter" sound to it, the drawbacks to LP's significantly outweigh the benefits. Ever try to play a record in your car? How about trying to listen to your turntable on the Metro? A hipster friend of mine has over 2,500 records on vinyl... I helped him move a few years ago... ever try moving thousands of records??? Those crates are heavy and take up a huge amount of space!

So you may experience some marginal sound improvements with vinyl, but the things are a big pain in the ass. I even stopped buying discs 2 years ago and packed all my CD's away into storage... I'm perfectly happy with my move to all digital music. Who needs all that crap sitting around? Whatever slight loss in sound quality I'm getting had been made up for in more closet and shelf space and improved organizational capability (i.e. no more hunting around for missing discs, etc.)

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: June 12, 2008 10:42AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> While I might slightly agree that vinyl has a
> "brighter" sound to it, the drawbacks to LP's
> significantly outweigh the benefits. Ever try to
> play a record in your car? How about trying to
> listen to your turntable on the Metro? A hipster
> friend of mine has over 2,500 records on vinyl...
> I helped him move a few years ago... ever try
> moving thousands of records??? Those crates are
> heavy and take up a huge amount of space!
>
> So you may experience some marginal sound
> improvements with vinyl, but the things are a big
> pain in the ass. I even stopped buying discs 2
> years ago and packed all my CD's away into
> storage... I'm perfectly happy with my move to all
> digital music. Who needs all that crap sitting
> around? Whatever slight loss in sound quality I'm
> getting had been made up for in more closet and
> shelf space and improved organizational capability
> (i.e. no more hunting around for missing discs,
> etc.)


Like Meade is getting a good sound out of that 45-year-old Philco or Curtis Mathes stereo he is listening to. We had one of those when I was a kid. It was like listening to a record through a piece of sheet rock.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: June 12, 2008 10:54AM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
>>> Like Meade is getting a good sound out of that 45-year-old Philco or Curtis Mathes stereo he is listening to.

Way to open up a new front in the never-ending war against Meade Skelton!

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: June 12, 2008 11:11AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> WashingToneLocian Wrote:
> >>> Like Meade is getting a good sound out of that
> 45-year-old Philco or Curtis Mathes stereo he is
> listening to.
>
> Way to open up a new front in the never-ending war
> against Meade Skelton!

Ha! Yeah, I should have left well enough alone.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: Vinylphile ()
Date: June 12, 2008 01:56PM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > While I might slightly agree that vinyl has a
> > "brighter" sound to it, the drawbacks to LP's
> > significantly outweigh the benefits. Ever try
> to
> > play a record in your car? How about trying to
> > listen to your turntable on the Metro? A
> hipster
> > friend of mine has over 2,500 records on
> vinyl...
> > I helped him move a few years ago... ever try
> > moving thousands of records??? Those crates
> are
> > heavy and take up a huge amount of space!
> >
> > So you may experience some marginal sound
> > improvements with vinyl, but the things are a
> big
> > pain in the ass. I even stopped buying discs 2
> > years ago and packed all my CD's away into
> > storage... I'm perfectly happy with my move to
> all
> > digital music. Who needs all that crap sitting
> > around? Whatever slight loss in sound quality
> I'm
> > getting had been made up for in more closet and
> > shelf space and improved organizational
> capability
> > (i.e. no more hunting around for missing discs,
> > etc.)
>
>
> Like Meade is getting a good sound out of that
> 45-year-old Philco or Curtis Mathes stereo he is
> listening to. We had one of those when I was a
> kid. It was like listening to a record through a
> piece of sheet rock.


Its a Fisher, you full. And its High Fidelity sound

Listening to an MP3 is more like listening to a rock.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: DeathByCop ()
Date: June 12, 2008 02:27PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> WashingToneLocian Wrote:
> >>> Like Meade is getting a good sound out of that
> 45-year-old Philco or Curtis Mathes stereo he is
> listening to.
>
> Way to open up a new front in the never-ending war
> against Meade Skelton!


LOL +1

Vinylphile Wrote:
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>
>
>Its a Fisher, you full. And its High Fidelity sound


Meade, you're the 'full', and full of it!!!


>
>Listening to an MP3 is more like listening to a rock.


No Meade, you've got it all wrong. Listening to you is like listening to a rock (being scratched on a chalkboard)!

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: ferfux ()
Date: June 12, 2008 02:34PM

this debate is forever if y'all dont shut the fuck up already

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: ferfux ()
Date: June 12, 2008 09:17PM

http://www.brownpride.com/articles/article.asp?a=574


why dont you all take it up with DJ johnny JUICE, eh!? huh?

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: Vinylphile ()
Date: June 12, 2008 10:24PM

DeathByCop Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WashingToneLocian Wrote:
> > >>> Like Meade is getting a good sound out of
> that
> > 45-year-old Philco or Curtis Mathes stereo he
> is
> > listening to.
> >
> > Way to open up a new front in the never-ending
> war
> > against Meade Skelton!
>
>
> LOL +1
>
> Vinylphile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> >Its a Fisher, you full. And its High Fidelity
> sound
>
>
> Meade, you're the 'full', and full of it!!!
>
>
> >
> >Listening to an MP3 is more like listening to a
> rock.
>
>
> No Meade, you've got it all wrong. Listening to
> you is like listening to a rock (being scratched
> on a chalkboard)!

Yer just jealous!

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: jhey ()
Date: June 13, 2008 01:14PM

From the Onion: [www.theonion.com]

CD Sales Down, LP Sales Up

While sales of CDs fell 17 percent between 2006 and 2007, sales of LPs rose 36 percent in the same period. What do you think?

Tammy Parnell,
Loan Officer
"I think at this point people are just fucking with the record industry as a whole."

John Bamford,
Building Inspector
"LPs may be nice for the audio tourist, but wax cylinders have a warmer, more natural sound."

Carlos Feinglass,
Systems Analyst
"If there's a better format for listening to hissing, popping, and crackling than on a cumbersome yet fragile 12-inch piece of vinyl, I'd love to hear it."

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: June 13, 2008 01:52PM

jhey Wrote:
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>
> Carlos Feinglass,
> Systems Analyst
> "If there's a better format for listening to
> hissing, popping, and crackling than on a
> cumbersome yet fragile 12-inch piece of vinyl, I'd
> love to hear it."


HAH!

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: Vinylphile ()
Date: June 13, 2008 05:02PM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> jhey Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Carlos Feinglass,
> > Systems Analyst
> > "If there's a better format for listening to
> > hissing, popping, and crackling than on a
> > cumbersome yet fragile 12-inch piece of vinyl,
> I'd
> > love to hear it."
>
>
> HAH!


Again, its a joke. Because records truly trump CDs in every way. You cant get high fidelity sound from a compact disc. Records produce the warmest, richest sound, possible.

The Onion uses irony as humour, so naturally they will write something like that.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: June 23, 2008 04:56AM

I listen to vinyl for that old-time sound, and while I agree that I have MANY records from the 60's that have zero damage and are in perfect condition after many years of use, the lack of sound quality and lack of versatility are not things that can be argued against. Either you just have a thing for that scratchy old sound like I do, or you are just kidding yourself.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: VinylPhile ()
Date: June 23, 2008 12:10PM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> I listen to vinyl for that old-time sound, and
> while I agree that I have MANY records from the
> 60's that have zero damage and are in perfect
> condition after many years of use, the lack of
> sound quality and lack of versatility are not
> things that can be argued against. Either you
> just have a thing for that scratchy old sound like
> I do, or you are just kidding yourself.


The Sound Quality is BETTER from vinyl. CDs have terrible sound quality. They are only one step above M-PEE-3s in terms of fidelity

Records produce the warmest richest tone possible. Its not scratchy at all.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: June 24, 2008 11:21AM

right. keep fooling yourself.. maybe you just don't hear the scratches because you use a turntable attached directly to a stereo it looks like you got at Sears in 1993?

My much more expensive and feature-packed turntable picks up all the sounds. Friction hiss is an undeniable part of playing viyl at high quality, without modern compression. You are probably hearing compressed sound though that junk stereo, leading you to believe you have something... when in fact you have less than you started with sound-wise.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: bdimag ()
Date: June 24, 2008 01:14PM

take your fisher price stereo and hi-fi it up your ass.

your stereo sucks and your records need to be used for skeet.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: bdimag ()
Date: June 24, 2008 01:14PM

end of story.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: bdimag ()
Date: June 24, 2008 01:15PM

copywrite two thousand gay

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: VinylForever ()
Date: June 24, 2008 01:33PM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> right. keep fooling yourself.. maybe you just
> don't hear the scratches because you use a
> turntable attached directly to a stereo it looks
> like you got at Sears in 1993?
>
> My much more expensive and feature-packed
> turntable picks up all the sounds. Friction hiss
> is an undeniable part of playing viyl at high
> quality, without modern compression. You are
> probably hearing compressed sound though that junk
> stereo, leading you to believe you have
> something... when in fact you have less than you
> started with sound-wise.

Fine. Enjoy your hideously compressed Compact Discs which will degrade and get CD Rot so they wont be played by the laser. Enjoy the cold harsh sounding digital sound, while I enjoy the warm, vibrant, rich sound of vinyl.

Records simply sound more natural. If i wanted to hear music like it was coming out of a tin can, I would listen to CDs.

I grew up with CDs. I think they suck. I have heard several artists on a CD then on Vinyl. The Records trump CDs in sound.

And my turntable is average, but not cheap. Its a 1999 AIWA turntable. Probably about 100$. And its just an average turntable and STILL sounds better than any CD player I have ever had

My turntables that are over 40 years old have outlasted my CD Players which live an average of 5-10 years!

Enjoy your Crappy CDs.

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: June 24, 2008 01:38PM

VinylForever Wrote:
> Enjoy the cold harsh sounding digital sound, while I enjoy the warm, vibrant, rich sound of vinyl.


Yikes! I'd sure hate to be on the receivin' end of that one!

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Re: Vinyl is FORVER !
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: June 24, 2008 02:15PM

one hundred buck turntable + aiwa compact stereo... that means you lose this argument. When you own a real stereo you might get back in the game. Assuming your parents let you on the net that day, meade.

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