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Panhandlers on Route 7?
Posted by: Questioning ()
Date: May 05, 2011 04:08PM

The last week or so I have noticed that there has been people in the medians on Route 7 with buckets looking for money from cars stopped at lights. They aren't homeless (that it appears), but something seems really odd about this. I see them starting about at the county line all the way down past the Loudoun Pkwy. Anyone have any idea what the story is here?

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Re: Panhandlers on Route 7?
Posted by: Buster ()
Date: May 06, 2011 12:03AM

When I talk to them, they tell me they're with New Life Church out of Tampa, FL. A Google search shows a news story indicating that New Life is associated with "Bishop" Melvin Jefferson's Deeper Life Ministries. There's lots of good reading material available here:

http://www.rickross.com/groups/deeper_life.html

You'll see stories about potential exploitation of homeless people enlisted to collect money on the roadside, fatal accidents involving their vans, and church members engaged in fraud.

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Re: Panhandlers on Route 7?
Posted by: snowdenscold ()
Date: May 06, 2011 01:21AM

Generally speaking, I'm wary of any non-denom church in which the pastor is called "Bishop". Yes, I'm aware of the New Testatment usage of "episcopos", but unfortunately the term often seems to be co-opted by prosperity gospel teachers and the like.

Do you know which "New Life" they're with out of Tampa? That's a fairly common name, and I came across several in Tampa while googling.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2011 01:26AM by snowdenscold.

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Re: Panhandlers on Route 7?
Posted by: Drink_The_Koolaid ()
Date: May 06, 2011 03:22PM

Check this out...

A controversial church group is back in the Valley and running from
KRGV News, Texas/October 23, 2010
By Will Ripley
http://www.rickross.com/reference/deeper_life/deeper_life28.html

Channel 5 News has been investigating the New Life Ministry for 6 years. They're back on street corners collecting your cash. You might think twice about handing over your hard-earned money.

New Life church members know exactly what to do when our cameras start rolling. We spotted them at a busy McAllen intersection as drivers dropped dollar after dollar into their buckets. One church member jumped on her cell phone when she saw our cameras. She told the person on the other end of the line we were asking questions. Within minutes she was running across the street as another church member followed her. They ducked inside a fast food restaurant down and tried to sneak out the back door to a white van is waiting nearby.

Channel 5 News traced the plate numbers of the van to a San Antonio address and The New Life Ministries church who we've been investigating since 2004,

The ministry is a spin-off of the Deeper Life Christian Church in Tampa, Florida. Their leader is Melvin Jefferson who calls himself Bishop. In 2008 we asked the attorney representing the church, Dennis Brewer, if Jefferson had any formal training as a bishop. The attorney says Jefferson is self trained.

Rick Ross runs a church watchdog group called the Ross Institute.

"The ministry is using homeless people, the most vulnerable people in our country, to raise money on street corners," he said.

Deeper Life recruits homeless people from the streets and moves them into sub-standard housing owned by the church. In San Antonio we found holes in the walls, exposed wiring and trash everywhere. To pay their way church members have to go on fundraising trips to places like the Valley. The money in the buckets goes back to the main church in Florida.

The bishop and his wife live in luxury. They have a mansion, drive at least 5 cars including a Bentley and fly in a private jet. Some have compared the church to a cult.

We called Deeper Life for comment but are still waiting for a call back. As long as this church keeps coming to the Valley CHANNEL 5 NEWS will keep working to get answers.

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Re: Panhandlers on Route 7?
Date: October 26, 2013 10:09PM

Drink_The_Koolaid Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Check this out...
>
> A controversial church group is back in the Valley
> and running from
> KRGV News, Texas/October 23, 2010
> By Will Ripley
> http://www.rickross.com/reference/deeper_life/deep
> er_life28.html
>
> Channel 5 News has been investigating the New Life
> Ministry for 6 years. They're back on street
> corners collecting your cash. You might think
> twice about handing over your hard-earned money.
>
> New Life church members know exactly what to do
> when our cameras start rolling. We spotted them at
> a busy McAllen intersection as drivers dropped
> dollar after dollar into their buckets. One church
> member jumped on her cell phone when she saw our
> cameras. She told the person on the other end of
> the line we were asking questions. Within minutes
> she was running across the street as another
> church member followed her. They ducked inside a
> fast food restaurant down and tried to sneak out
> the back door to a white van is waiting nearby.
>
> Channel 5 News traced the plate numbers of the van
> to a San Antonio address and The New Life
> Ministries church who we've been investigating
> since 2004,
>
> The ministry is a spin-off of the Deeper Life
> Christian Church in Tampa, Florida. Their leader
> is Melvin Jefferson who calls himself Bishop. In
> 2008 we asked the attorney representing the
> church, Dennis Brewer, if Jefferson had any formal
> training as a bishop. The attorney says Jefferson
> is self trained.
>
> Rick Ross runs a church watchdog group called the
> Ross Institute.
>
> "The ministry is using homeless people, the most
> vulnerable people in our country, to raise money
> on street corners," he said.
>
> Deeper Life recruits homeless people from the
> streets and moves them into sub-standard housing
> owned by the church. In San Antonio we found holes
> in the walls, exposed wiring and trash everywhere.
> To pay their way church members have to go on
> fundraising trips to places like the Valley. The
> money in the buckets goes back to the main church
> in Florida.
>
> The bishop and his wife live in luxury. They have
> a mansion, drive at least 5 cars including a
> Bentley and fly in a private jet. Some have
> compared the church to a cult.
>
> We called Deeper Life for comment but are still
> waiting for a call back. As long as this church
> keeps coming to the Valley CHANNEL 5 NEWS will
> keep working to get answers.

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Re: Panhandlers on Route 7?
Posted by: Wondering1 ()
Date: November 01, 2013 11:06PM

I thought this kind of soliciting was banned in Loudoun County last year. Where are the copp when you need one?

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Re: Panhandlers on Route 7?
Posted by: kip fat ()
Date: November 02, 2013 04:38PM

Thread is from 2011 and was inexplicably bumped

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