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Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Native 1963
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Date: August 28, 2012 08:19AM
David Axelrod said yesterday Obama will by executive order eliminate term limits.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
youranidiot
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Date: August 28, 2012 08:33AM
Native 1963 Wrote:
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> David Axelrod said yesterday Obama will by
> executive order eliminate term limits.
Really, First link the quote. Second. Do you understand how the Constitution works.
thanks don't play again.
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> David Axelrod said yesterday Obama will by
> executive order eliminate term limits.
Really, First link the quote. Second. Do you understand how the Constitution works.
thanks don't play again.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Native 1776
()
Date: August 28, 2012 08:34AM
We have permanent term limits - they are called votes and are available to eligible voters everywhere at election time.
Fat, dumb, and stupid is no way to go through life.
Fat, dumb, and stupid is no way to go through life.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
HolyBleep
()
Date: August 28, 2012 08:34AM
Native 1963 Wrote:
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> David Axelrod said yesterday Obama will by
> executive order eliminate term limits.
Y'know there are plenty of reasons to dislike Obama. I don't understand why dumb-asses like the OP feel they have to make shit up.
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> David Axelrod said yesterday Obama will by
> executive order eliminate term limits.
Y'know there are plenty of reasons to dislike Obama. I don't understand why dumb-asses like the OP feel they have to make shit up.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
yomamma
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Date: August 28, 2012 08:45AM
I could only find something a about congress term limits not Pres. term limits
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
2Terms
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Date: August 28, 2012 08:50AM
It is called the 22nd Amendment and Yomomma really, really likes it in the ass son.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
justsayin
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Date: August 28, 2012 09:01AM
yomamma Wrote:
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> I could only find something a about congress term
> limits not Pres. term limits
Sometimes you can't stop at the first paragraph of something, you need to read further down.
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> I could only find something a about congress term
> limits not Pres. term limits
Sometimes you can't stop at the first paragraph of something, you need to read further down.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
JUSTsaying?
()
Date: August 28, 2012 09:07AM
justsayin, ur services are requested in another thread for flaming services
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
once bitten twice shy
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Date: August 28, 2012 09:20AM
The OP never said it is legal he only said Axelrod said it. I don’t doubt he said it. Remember the Obama campaign motto “Win BY Any Means” Democrats have only one choice KEEP hiding yourself from the facts or Admit you were fooled by the mainstream media.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
OnceAgain
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Date: August 28, 2012 09:29AM
Ok, douchenozzle, where's the link to Axelrod saying it? Good luck with that.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Arlingtonkid
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Date: August 28, 2012 09:34AM
Remember this is the guy who said last year, he was unable to do anything about illegal aliens without the approval of Congress, and yet he did it any way this year. He's abused executive orders power after claiming in 2008 President Bush did the samething, and that he would not.
I would put nothing past this guy.
I would put nothing past this guy.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Native 1960
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Date: August 28, 2012 09:46AM
OnceAgain Wrote:
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> Ok, douchenozzle, where's the link to Axelrod
> saying it? Good luck with that.
Another dirty uneducated democrat. Do us all a favor and stay home and watch American Idol on Nov 6. Democrats are really the scum of society, like they are ok with a President who has no problem sticking a pair of scissors in the back of an infant’s head.....because it was supposed to killed by abortion. I pray for you all every day.
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> Ok, douchenozzle, where's the link to Axelrod
> saying it? Good luck with that.
Another dirty uneducated democrat. Do us all a favor and stay home and watch American Idol on Nov 6. Democrats are really the scum of society, like they are ok with a President who has no problem sticking a pair of scissors in the back of an infant’s head.....because it was supposed to killed by abortion. I pray for you all every day.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
22nd Amendment
()
Date: August 28, 2012 09:56AM
There's nothing here that can be overriden by an Executive Order...
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
TwiceAgain
()
Date: August 28, 2012 10:07AM
Native 1960 Wrote:
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> OnceAgain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ok, douchenozzle, where's the link to Axelrod
> > saying it? Good luck with that.
>
>
> Another dirty uneducated democrat. Do us all a
> favor and stay home and watch American Idol on Nov
> 6. Democrats are really the scum of society, like
> they are ok with a President who has no problem
> sticking a pair of scissors in the back of an
> infant’s head.....because it was supposed to
> killed by abortion. I pray for you all every day.
Is that a way of saying that Axelrod didn't say it?
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> OnceAgain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ok, douchenozzle, where's the link to Axelrod
> > saying it? Good luck with that.
>
>
> Another dirty uneducated democrat. Do us all a
> favor and stay home and watch American Idol on Nov
> 6. Democrats are really the scum of society, like
> they are ok with a President who has no problem
> sticking a pair of scissors in the back of an
> infant’s head.....because it was supposed to
> killed by abortion. I pray for you all every day.
Is that a way of saying that Axelrod didn't say it?
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
No chance.
()
Date: August 28, 2012 10:44AM
Oh please.
If Obama does win a 2nd term it will be by the skin of his teeth.
After 4 more years of incompetence there's no way that retard would get elected to a 3rd term.
If Obama does win a 2nd term it will be by the skin of his teeth.
After 4 more years of incompetence there's no way that retard would get elected to a 3rd term.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Ito
()
Date: August 28, 2012 10:55AM
HolyBleep Wrote:
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> Y'know there are plenty of reasons to dislike
> Obama. I don't understand why dumb-asses like the
> OP feel they have to make shit up.
+1
@22 Amendment, et al
The president has no ability to amend the Constitution on his own. This is settled not only through the Constitution itself, but also through case law:
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The Amendment Process
There are essentially two ways spelled out in the Constitution for how to propose an amendment. One has never been used.
The first method is for a bill to pass both houses of the legislature, by a two-thirds majority in each. Once the bill has passed both houses, it goes on to the states. This is the route taken by all current amendments. Because of some long outstanding amendments, such as the 27th, Congress will normally put a time limit (typically seven years) for the bill to be approved as an amendment (for example, see the 21st and 22nd).
The second method prescribed is for a Constitutional Convention to be called by two-thirds of the legislatures of the States, and for that Convention to propose one or more amendments. These amendments are then sent to the states to be approved by three-fourths of the legislatures or conventions. This route has never been taken, and there is discussion in political science circles about just how such a convention would be convened, and what kind of changes it would bring about.
Regardless of which of the two proposal routes is taken, the amendment must be ratified, or approved, by three-fourths of states. There are two ways to do this, too. The text of the amendment may specify whether the bill must be passed by the state legislatures or by a state convention. See the Ratification Convention Page for a discussion of the make up of a convention. Amendments are sent to the legislatures of the states by default. Only one amendment, the 21st, specified a convention. In any case, passage by the legislature or convention is by simple majority.
The Constitution, then, spells out four paths for an amendment:
Proposal by convention of states, ratification by state conventions (never used)
Proposal by convention of states, ratification by state legislatures (never used)
Proposal by Congress, ratification by state conventions (used once)
Proposal by Congress, ratification by state legislatures (used all other times)
It is interesting to note that at no point does the President have a role in the formal amendment process (though he would be free to make his opinion known). He cannot veto an amendment proposal, nor a ratification. This point is clear in Article 5, and was reaffirmed by the Supreme Court in Hollingsworth v Virginia (3 US 378 [1798]):
The negative of the President applies only to the ordinary cases of legislation: He has nothing to do with the proposition, or adoption, of amendments to the Constitution.
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> Y'know there are plenty of reasons to dislike
> Obama. I don't understand why dumb-asses like the
> OP feel they have to make shit up.
+1
@22 Amendment, et al
The president has no ability to amend the Constitution on his own. This is settled not only through the Constitution itself, but also through case law:
----------------
The Amendment Process
There are essentially two ways spelled out in the Constitution for how to propose an amendment. One has never been used.
The first method is for a bill to pass both houses of the legislature, by a two-thirds majority in each. Once the bill has passed both houses, it goes on to the states. This is the route taken by all current amendments. Because of some long outstanding amendments, such as the 27th, Congress will normally put a time limit (typically seven years) for the bill to be approved as an amendment (for example, see the 21st and 22nd).
The second method prescribed is for a Constitutional Convention to be called by two-thirds of the legislatures of the States, and for that Convention to propose one or more amendments. These amendments are then sent to the states to be approved by three-fourths of the legislatures or conventions. This route has never been taken, and there is discussion in political science circles about just how such a convention would be convened, and what kind of changes it would bring about.
Regardless of which of the two proposal routes is taken, the amendment must be ratified, or approved, by three-fourths of states. There are two ways to do this, too. The text of the amendment may specify whether the bill must be passed by the state legislatures or by a state convention. See the Ratification Convention Page for a discussion of the make up of a convention. Amendments are sent to the legislatures of the states by default. Only one amendment, the 21st, specified a convention. In any case, passage by the legislature or convention is by simple majority.
The Constitution, then, spells out four paths for an amendment:
Proposal by convention of states, ratification by state conventions (never used)
Proposal by convention of states, ratification by state legislatures (never used)
Proposal by Congress, ratification by state conventions (used once)
Proposal by Congress, ratification by state legislatures (used all other times)
It is interesting to note that at no point does the President have a role in the formal amendment process (though he would be free to make his opinion known). He cannot veto an amendment proposal, nor a ratification. This point is clear in Article 5, and was reaffirmed by the Supreme Court in Hollingsworth v Virginia (3 US 378 [1798]):
The negative of the President applies only to the ordinary cases of legislation: He has nothing to do with the proposition, or adoption, of amendments to the Constitution.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
freedom fighter
()
Date: August 28, 2012 10:55AM
TwiceAgain Wrote:
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> Native 1960 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OnceAgain Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ok, douchenozzle, where's the link to Axelrod
> > > saying it? Good luck with that.
> >
> >
> > Another dirty uneducated democrat. Do us all a
> > favor and stay home and watch American Idol on
> Nov
> > 6. Democrats are really the scum of society,
> like
> > they are ok with a President who has no problem
> > sticking a pair of scissors in the back of an
> > infant’s head.....because it was supposed to
> > killed by abortion. I pray for you all every
> day.
>
>
> Is that a way of saying that Axelrod didn't say
> it?
It was very hard to hear but he was caught whispering it his Russian friends.
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> Native 1960 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OnceAgain Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ok, douchenozzle, where's the link to Axelrod
> > > saying it? Good luck with that.
> >
> >
> > Another dirty uneducated democrat. Do us all a
> > favor and stay home and watch American Idol on
> Nov
> > 6. Democrats are really the scum of society,
> like
> > they are ok with a President who has no problem
> > sticking a pair of scissors in the back of an
> > infant’s head.....because it was supposed to
> > killed by abortion. I pray for you all every
> day.
>
>
> Is that a way of saying that Axelrod didn't say
> it?
It was very hard to hear but he was caught whispering it his Russian friends.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Kardinal
()
Date: August 28, 2012 11:08AM
HolyBleep Wrote:
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> Native 1963 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > David Axelrod said yesterday Obama will by
> > executive order eliminate term limits.
>
>
> Y'know there are plenty of reasons to dislike
> Obama. I don't understand why dumb-asses like the
> OP feel they have to make shit up.
Totally this.
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> Native 1963 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > David Axelrod said yesterday Obama will by
> > executive order eliminate term limits.
>
>
> Y'know there are plenty of reasons to dislike
> Obama. I don't understand why dumb-asses like the
> OP feel they have to make shit up.
Totally this.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Kardinal
()
Date: August 28, 2012 11:09AM
Native 1960 Wrote:
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> OnceAgain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ok, douchenozzle, where's the link to Axelrod
> > saying it? Good luck with that.
>
>
> Another dirty uneducated democrat. Do us all a
> favor and stay home and watch American Idol on Nov
> 6. Democrats are really the scum of society,
That's just unnecessary, vile, and, frankly, a lie. I'm no Democrat (voted Republican in every election I've been eligible for), but I don't need to insult my political opponents. They're still people.
> ...like
> they are ok with a President who has no problem
> sticking a pair of scissors in the back of an
> infant’s head.....because it was supposed to
> killed by abortion. I pray for you all every day.
See, THAT is a good reason to not vote for Obama.
We dont' have to make stuff up to have good reasons not to vote for him.
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> OnceAgain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ok, douchenozzle, where's the link to Axelrod
> > saying it? Good luck with that.
>
>
> Another dirty uneducated democrat. Do us all a
> favor and stay home and watch American Idol on Nov
> 6. Democrats are really the scum of society,
That's just unnecessary, vile, and, frankly, a lie. I'm no Democrat (voted Republican in every election I've been eligible for), but I don't need to insult my political opponents. They're still people.
> ...like
> they are ok with a President who has no problem
> sticking a pair of scissors in the back of an
> infant’s head.....because it was supposed to
> killed by abortion. I pray for you all every day.
See, THAT is a good reason to not vote for Obama.
We dont' have to make stuff up to have good reasons not to vote for him.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Priapus
()
Date: August 28, 2012 02:17PM
Calling Honey BooBoo. We need you here.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
All of you shut up
()
Date: August 28, 2012 07:13PM
Shut up
Seriously writing dumb things on here has no impact
Seriously writing dumb things on here has no impact
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
glad to hear it
()
Date: August 28, 2012 11:52PM
One thing is certain, there is no term limit on how long you can now collect welfare since Obama removed the work portion of the welfare to work law.
Attachments:
Attachments:
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
barry fans
()
Date: August 28, 2012 11:54PM
Democrats are such a lovely bunch. Saving the earth by living like pigs.
Attachments:
Attachments:
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
O'Romney
()
Date: August 29, 2012 12:14PM
No chance. Wrote:
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> Oh please.
>
> If Obama does win a 2nd term it will be by the
> skin of his teeth.
>
> After 4 more years of incompetence there's no way
> that retard would get elected to a 3rd term.
After 4 more years, he'll be indistinguishible from a Republican.
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> Oh please.
>
> If Obama does win a 2nd term it will be by the
> skin of his teeth.
>
> After 4 more years of incompetence there's no way
> that retard would get elected to a 3rd term.
After 4 more years, he'll be indistinguishible from a Republican.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
meh
()
Date: August 29, 2012 01:15PM
i heard that op said that some guy said that Obama said that he is just going to be supreme leader now.
this is totally a fact guys, i dont need to show sources or prove anything.
this is totally a fact guys, i dont need to show sources or prove anything.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
This place goes to crap when Boo Boo aint around
()
Date: August 29, 2012 03:20PM
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Arlingtonkid
()
Date: August 30, 2012 07:44AM
I'm not saying he is going to do amend the rule on term limits, he may postpone the election, etc. All the talk from the Dems saying new voter ID laws, could prompt him to say something like.... due to the number of reports of people not being able to vote, etc, I'm suspending the results of the election. Or, perhaps if there is wide spread violence prior to the election, he could postpone them.
You may say this is all kook talk, but given his previous actions, one would be foolish to not take this into account.
You may say this is all kook talk, but given his previous actions, one would be foolish to not take this into account.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Shut up nut job, back to hell with you - Boo Boo
()
Date: August 30, 2012 01:47PM
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Native 1962
()
Date: March 04, 2013 07:08AM
Native 1960 Wrote:
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> OnceAgain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ok, douchenozzle, where's the link to Axelrod
> > saying it? Good luck with that.
>
>
> Another dirty uneducated democrat. Do us all a
> favor and stay home and watch American Idol on Nov
> 6. Democrats are really the scum of society, like
> they are ok with a President who has no problem
> sticking a pair of scissors in the back of an
> infant’s head.....because it was supposed to
> killed by abortion. I pray for you all every day.
This doctor visited with Obama and lunched in our White House in 2010!
Pa. abortion doctor goes on trial in 8 deaths
Doctor Steven Massof of Pittsburgh told the grand jury that he used scissors to snip the spines of more than 100 babies born alive.
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> OnceAgain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ok, douchenozzle, where's the link to Axelrod
> > saying it? Good luck with that.
>
>
> Another dirty uneducated democrat. Do us all a
> favor and stay home and watch American Idol on Nov
> 6. Democrats are really the scum of society, like
> they are ok with a President who has no problem
> sticking a pair of scissors in the back of an
> infant’s head.....because it was supposed to
> killed by abortion. I pray for you all every day.
This doctor visited with Obama and lunched in our White House in 2010!
Pa. abortion doctor goes on trial in 8 deaths
Doctor Steven Massof of Pittsburgh told the grand jury that he used scissors to snip the spines of more than 100 babies born alive.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Saddened
()
Date: March 04, 2013 07:13AM
Who could do something so monstrous to little, helpless babies...makes me cry.
Re: Obama announces lifting of term limits after election
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 04, 2013 07:21AM
Saddened Wrote:
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> Who could do something so monstrous to little,
> helpless babies...makes me cry.
I know, right?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/01/us-usa-church-abuse-idUSBRE91005R20130201
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> Who could do something so monstrous to little,
> helpless babies...makes me cry.
I know, right?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/01/us-usa-church-abuse-idUSBRE91005R20130201