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VA Republicans are morons
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fiscal conservatives?
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Date: July 17, 2012 12:22PM
The Republicans’ Most Hypocritical Economic Argument
The Republican position on federal spending could not be clearer: It doesn’t create jobs. Except when it goes to defense contractors.
Under the debt-ceiling deal reached last year, planned spending is going to be “sequestered” -- that is, cut -- starting next January. The defense budget is going to take half the hit. On July 12, Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign issued a press release with a statement from Bill Bolling, the Republican lieutenant governor of Virginia, attacking President Barack Obama for cutting defense too much.
“We are very concerned about the impact that sequestration could have on Virginia’s economy,” Bolling said in the statement. He added, “It could also deliver a devastating blow to the private-sector defense contractors who make up a big part of Virginia’s economy, especially in Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads. This is just another example of how the president’s approach to running the country is jeopardizing our economic viability.”
The same day, the state’s attorney general, Ken Cuccinelli, made the same point in his own statement for the Romney campaign. And the campaign hosted a conference call where Representative Randy Forbes, a Virginia Republican, said, “If you look at it from an economic point of view, this is something that is going to have an enormous, devastating blow on Virginia, especially in northern Virginia and in the Hampton Roads area.” There would be “a huge impact on beauty salons, restaurants, car dealers, the entire economy.”
The Republican position on federal spending could not be clearer: It doesn’t create jobs. Except when it goes to defense contractors.
Under the debt-ceiling deal reached last year, planned spending is going to be “sequestered” -- that is, cut -- starting next January. The defense budget is going to take half the hit. On July 12, Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign issued a press release with a statement from Bill Bolling, the Republican lieutenant governor of Virginia, attacking President Barack Obama for cutting defense too much.
“We are very concerned about the impact that sequestration could have on Virginia’s economy,” Bolling said in the statement. He added, “It could also deliver a devastating blow to the private-sector defense contractors who make up a big part of Virginia’s economy, especially in Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads. This is just another example of how the president’s approach to running the country is jeopardizing our economic viability.”
The same day, the state’s attorney general, Ken Cuccinelli, made the same point in his own statement for the Romney campaign. And the campaign hosted a conference call where Representative Randy Forbes, a Virginia Republican, said, “If you look at it from an economic point of view, this is something that is going to have an enormous, devastating blow on Virginia, especially in northern Virginia and in the Hampton Roads area.” There would be “a huge impact on beauty salons, restaurants, car dealers, the entire economy.”
Re: VA Republicans are morons
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cut elsewhere PLEASE!
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Date: July 17, 2012 12:24PM
Virginia’s Bounty
The cuts probably will hurt Virginia, since it is, according to a 2011 Bloomberg Government study, the top recipient of federal defense dollars. Is that really a reason to keep the spending going, though? I’ve got nothing against northern Virginia -- along with Hampton Roads, it’s one of my favorite closely divided parts of a swing state. The federal government, though, does more than enough for the region already. You would expect Republicans, at least, to think so.
It’s not just Virginia politicians and the Romney campaign who are making the economic argument for defense spending. It’s a case that has also been made by House Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon, Senator John McCain and Senator John Cornyn -- Republicans all -- among others.
Representative Barney Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat, calls his Republican colleagues’ insistence that defense spending be protected to safeguard jobs “weaponized Keynesianism.” His accusation is unfair -- to Keynesians. The Keynesian argument for government spending applies only during economic slumps. The case Bolling and the others are making recognizes no such limitation: The federal government is supposed to keep the dollars flowing to particular communities for all time.
There is, of course, no reason to think that defense spending is more helpful to the economy than other kinds of federal spending. Republicans have been dead-set against sending federal money to states to help them avoid laying off teachers. Yet teachers, too, spend money at beauty salons and car dealerships. They, too, have “good paying and reliable jobs,” as the National Association of Manufacturers said of defense workers in a letter opposing cuts in April.
The cuts probably will hurt Virginia, since it is, according to a 2011 Bloomberg Government study, the top recipient of federal defense dollars. Is that really a reason to keep the spending going, though? I’ve got nothing against northern Virginia -- along with Hampton Roads, it’s one of my favorite closely divided parts of a swing state. The federal government, though, does more than enough for the region already. You would expect Republicans, at least, to think so.
It’s not just Virginia politicians and the Romney campaign who are making the economic argument for defense spending. It’s a case that has also been made by House Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon, Senator John McCain and Senator John Cornyn -- Republicans all -- among others.
Representative Barney Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat, calls his Republican colleagues’ insistence that defense spending be protected to safeguard jobs “weaponized Keynesianism.” His accusation is unfair -- to Keynesians. The Keynesian argument for government spending applies only during economic slumps. The case Bolling and the others are making recognizes no such limitation: The federal government is supposed to keep the dollars flowing to particular communities for all time.
There is, of course, no reason to think that defense spending is more helpful to the economy than other kinds of federal spending. Republicans have been dead-set against sending federal money to states to help them avoid laying off teachers. Yet teachers, too, spend money at beauty salons and car dealerships. They, too, have “good paying and reliable jobs,” as the National Association of Manufacturers said of defense workers in a letter opposing cuts in April.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
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Do as I say, not as I do
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Date: July 17, 2012 12:26PM
Endless Spending
Needless to say, on the theory that the Republicans are advancing, the federal budget can never be cut. The U.S. Conference of Mayors will be able to say that cuts in social spending will devastate the economy of our cities with at least as much justice as defense-heavy areas can complain about cuts to the military. Rural areas can say the same thing about farm subsidies.
Reductions in federal spending, whether for defense or social programs, will, of course, be disruptive to the people, businesses and communities who have come to rely on it. The cuts should not, however, hurt the broader economy. When federal spending falls and jobs tied to that spending disappear, private-sector spending should normally increase and create jobs tied to it.
So long as the Federal Reserve is targeting inflation or nominal spending, total economic activity should stay roughly the same, even if its composition changes. (If the Fed responds to government spending cuts by tightening money, jobs will be lost. But that would be the fault of the Fed, not the budget writers.)
The Bloomberg Government study listed the 10 states that depend the most on defense dollars. Seven of them voted for the Republican presidential candidate in 2008, and an eighth, Virginia, has usually voted Republican in presidential races. So the party’s interest in keeping defense jobs makes political sense.
Yet the purpose of the defense budget shouldn’t be to subsidize particular people or areas. We don’t buy tanks and train soldiers to keep beauty salons in business. The Republicans resisting big defense cuts generally think that they would jeopardize our national security. That’s a debatable proposition. So debate it. What Republicans should not do is make an economic argument for defense spending that is both untrue and inconsistent with everything else they say about spending and the economy.
When they do that, they treat the nation’s defense as little more than a source of political pork.
(Ramesh Ponnuru is a Bloomberg View columnist and a senior editor at National Review. The opinions expressed are his own.)
Needless to say, on the theory that the Republicans are advancing, the federal budget can never be cut. The U.S. Conference of Mayors will be able to say that cuts in social spending will devastate the economy of our cities with at least as much justice as defense-heavy areas can complain about cuts to the military. Rural areas can say the same thing about farm subsidies.
Reductions in federal spending, whether for defense or social programs, will, of course, be disruptive to the people, businesses and communities who have come to rely on it. The cuts should not, however, hurt the broader economy. When federal spending falls and jobs tied to that spending disappear, private-sector spending should normally increase and create jobs tied to it.
So long as the Federal Reserve is targeting inflation or nominal spending, total economic activity should stay roughly the same, even if its composition changes. (If the Fed responds to government spending cuts by tightening money, jobs will be lost. But that would be the fault of the Fed, not the budget writers.)
The Bloomberg Government study listed the 10 states that depend the most on defense dollars. Seven of them voted for the Republican presidential candidate in 2008, and an eighth, Virginia, has usually voted Republican in presidential races. So the party’s interest in keeping defense jobs makes political sense.
Yet the purpose of the defense budget shouldn’t be to subsidize particular people or areas. We don’t buy tanks and train soldiers to keep beauty salons in business. The Republicans resisting big defense cuts generally think that they would jeopardize our national security. That’s a debatable proposition. So debate it. What Republicans should not do is make an economic argument for defense spending that is both untrue and inconsistent with everything else they say about spending and the economy.
When they do that, they treat the nation’s defense as little more than a source of political pork.
(Ramesh Ponnuru is a Bloomberg View columnist and a senior editor at National Review. The opinions expressed are his own.)
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
LetsRock
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Date: July 17, 2012 12:30PM
fiscal conservatives? Wrote:
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> The Republicans’ Most Hypocritical Economic
> Argument
>
> The Republican position on federal spending could
> not be clearer: It doesn’t create jobs. Except
> when it goes to defense contractors.
>
> Under the debt-ceiling deal reached last year,
> planned spending is going to be “sequestered”
> -- that is, cut -- starting next January. The
> defense budget is going to take half the hit. On
> July 12, Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign
> issued a press release with a statement from Bill
> Bolling, the Republican lieutenant governor of
> Virginia, attacking President Barack Obama for
> cutting defense too much.
>
> “We are very concerned about the impact that
> sequestration could have on Virginia’s
> economy,” Bolling said in the statement. He
> added, “It could also deliver a devastating blow
> to the private-sector defense contractors who make
> up a big part of Virginia’s economy, especially
> in Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads. This is
> just another example of how the president’s
> approach to running the country is jeopardizing
> our economic viability.”
>
> The same day, the state’s attorney general, Ken
> Cuccinelli, made the same point in his own
> statement for the Romney campaign. And the
> campaign hosted a conference call where
> Representative Randy Forbes, a Virginia
> Republican, said, “If you look at it from an
> economic point of view, this is something that is
> going to have an enormous, devastating blow on
> Virginia, especially in northern Virginia and in
> the Hampton Roads area.” There would be “a
> huge impact on beauty salons, restaurants, car
> dealers, the entire economy.”
Defense is the only spending authorized by the Constitution.
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> The Republicans’ Most Hypocritical Economic
> Argument
>
> The Republican position on federal spending could
> not be clearer: It doesn’t create jobs. Except
> when it goes to defense contractors.
>
> Under the debt-ceiling deal reached last year,
> planned spending is going to be “sequestered”
> -- that is, cut -- starting next January. The
> defense budget is going to take half the hit. On
> July 12, Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign
> issued a press release with a statement from Bill
> Bolling, the Republican lieutenant governor of
> Virginia, attacking President Barack Obama for
> cutting defense too much.
>
> “We are very concerned about the impact that
> sequestration could have on Virginia’s
> economy,” Bolling said in the statement. He
> added, “It could also deliver a devastating blow
> to the private-sector defense contractors who make
> up a big part of Virginia’s economy, especially
> in Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads. This is
> just another example of how the president’s
> approach to running the country is jeopardizing
> our economic viability.”
>
> The same day, the state’s attorney general, Ken
> Cuccinelli, made the same point in his own
> statement for the Romney campaign. And the
> campaign hosted a conference call where
> Representative Randy Forbes, a Virginia
> Republican, said, “If you look at it from an
> economic point of view, this is something that is
> going to have an enormous, devastating blow on
> Virginia, especially in northern Virginia and in
> the Hampton Roads area.” There would be “a
> huge impact on beauty salons, restaurants, car
> dealers, the entire economy.”
Defense is the only spending authorized by the Constitution.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
stephen
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Date: July 17, 2012 12:31PM
I think Republicans are slime, and will do what ever they can to take our rights away. Nyc says virginia Guns are killing New york city kids, so the republicans encreased Gun sales, while claiming to protect kids. Scumb Bags is what they should call their party.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
BEH
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Date: July 17, 2012 12:34PM
You don't really think anyone is reading those posts , do you?
Any post more than three paragraphs and not about sex, drugs or Meade is summarily dismissed and ignored.
Any post more than three paragraphs and not about sex, drugs or Meade is summarily dismissed and ignored.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
NAWT
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Date: July 17, 2012 12:49PM
ALL Republicans are Morons.
Virginia Republicans are just dumber than most.
Look at Ken Cuccinelli, spending our millions of tax dollars to fight stupid and unnecessary legal battles over non-issues like the Affordable Care Act, extending benefits to gay state employees, climate research at UVA, etc.
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Virginia Republicans are just dumber than most.
Look at Ken Cuccinelli, spending our millions of tax dollars to fight stupid and unnecessary legal battles over non-issues like the Affordable Care Act, extending benefits to gay state employees, climate research at UVA, etc.
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The 2012 Republican Primary's Five Hottest Conspiracy Theories
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Conspiracy Theory
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Date: July 17, 2012 12:57PM
The 2012 Republican Primary's Five Hottest Conspiracy Theories
It's easy to mock Alabama and Mississippi Republicans today for their views on Barack Obama's religion. But that's hardly the only unfounded, persistent belief lurking below the surface of the political season.
1. Obama is a Muslim
The latest Public Policy Polling numbers show that 45% of Republican respondents in Alabama still believe that President Obama is Muslim. The number is 51% in Mississippi.
2. All the gold in Fort Knox is gone
This theory has been perpetuated as recently as last year by none other than gold aficionado Ron Paul, who has said he wants to open up Fort Knox and count all the gold bars inside. Treasury officials say the gold is safe, but crazy people on the Internet believe that the government secretly sold all of it. A subset of this theory includes the idea that, to evade suspicion, the government replaced all the gold bars with bars of tungsten and dipped them with gold.
3. The government is keeping gas prices high on purpose
Bill O'Reilly is a big proponent of this one, the idea being that the Obama administration is intentionally keeping gas prices high in order to push a green energy agenda. "The Obama Administration wants the price of gas to go up as much as possible," O'Reilly said on his show in February. "Right now we are all being taken advantage of by an administration that has an anti-fossil fuel agenda and an oil industry that manipulates the US market."
There's some long-term truth to this: Environmentalists think high gas prices will push people away from fossil fuels. But there's no evidence Obama is scrambling to keep the prices as high "as possible" during an election year.
4. The media is lying about how many delegates Ron Paul has accrued
Diehard Ron Paul fans believe that the media has fudged the number of delegates Paul is winning. The theory is supported by the candidate himself in emails to supporters like one from last week:
The mainstream media got the Super Tuesday story wrong.
...
In fact, while I didn't win any state's straw polls, my team expects me to win a plurality of delegates in at least three states, as well as outright majorities in two more of the states that have already started their process.Daily Paul.
5.Rick Perry is gay
This one's died down a bit since the end of Perry's presidential bid, but rumors about the Texas governor's sexual orientation have been swirling for some time. The Huffington Post even sent its reporter Jason Cherkis down to Texas to investigate before killing the story. Over the summer, a Ron Paul supporter in Texas took out a full-page ad in an Austin paper asking for anyone who'd had sex with Perry to come forward.
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It's easy to mock Alabama and Mississippi Republicans today for their views on Barack Obama's religion. But that's hardly the only unfounded, persistent belief lurking below the surface of the political season.
1. Obama is a Muslim
The latest Public Policy Polling numbers show that 45% of Republican respondents in Alabama still believe that President Obama is Muslim. The number is 51% in Mississippi.
2. All the gold in Fort Knox is gone
This theory has been perpetuated as recently as last year by none other than gold aficionado Ron Paul, who has said he wants to open up Fort Knox and count all the gold bars inside. Treasury officials say the gold is safe, but crazy people on the Internet believe that the government secretly sold all of it. A subset of this theory includes the idea that, to evade suspicion, the government replaced all the gold bars with bars of tungsten and dipped them with gold.
3. The government is keeping gas prices high on purpose
Bill O'Reilly is a big proponent of this one, the idea being that the Obama administration is intentionally keeping gas prices high in order to push a green energy agenda. "The Obama Administration wants the price of gas to go up as much as possible," O'Reilly said on his show in February. "Right now we are all being taken advantage of by an administration that has an anti-fossil fuel agenda and an oil industry that manipulates the US market."
There's some long-term truth to this: Environmentalists think high gas prices will push people away from fossil fuels. But there's no evidence Obama is scrambling to keep the prices as high "as possible" during an election year.
4. The media is lying about how many delegates Ron Paul has accrued
Diehard Ron Paul fans believe that the media has fudged the number of delegates Paul is winning. The theory is supported by the candidate himself in emails to supporters like one from last week:
The mainstream media got the Super Tuesday story wrong.
...
In fact, while I didn't win any state's straw polls, my team expects me to win a plurality of delegates in at least three states, as well as outright majorities in two more of the states that have already started their process.Daily Paul.
5.Rick Perry is gay
This one's died down a bit since the end of Perry's presidential bid, but rumors about the Texas governor's sexual orientation have been swirling for some time. The Huffington Post even sent its reporter Jason Cherkis down to Texas to investigate before killing the story. Over the summer, a Ron Paul supporter in Texas took out a full-page ad in an Austin paper asking for anyone who'd had sex with Perry to come forward.
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Bill.N.
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Date: July 17, 2012 02:08PM
LetsRock Wrote:
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> Defense is the only spending authorized by the
> Constitution.
MYTH
FACT: Article I authorizes Congress to provide for the compensation of Representatives and Senators, to pay debts, provide for the common defense and for the general welfare. Article II provides for compensation of the President. Article III contains a provision for compensation of judges.
Article I also gives Congress (not the Executive Branch) the power "to raise and support armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years". Some people, aware of the two year restriction and unaware of other provisions believe that the Constitution only authorize spending for defense.
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> Defense is the only spending authorized by the
> Constitution.
MYTH
FACT: Article I authorizes Congress to provide for the compensation of Representatives and Senators, to pay debts, provide for the common defense and for the general welfare. Article II provides for compensation of the President. Article III contains a provision for compensation of judges.
Article I also gives Congress (not the Executive Branch) the power "to raise and support armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years". Some people, aware of the two year restriction and unaware of other provisions believe that the Constitution only authorize spending for defense.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
FBO
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Date: July 17, 2012 02:46PM
SOOOO much fucking derp in this thread.
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I say "fuck" a lot...
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I say "fuck" a lot...
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Adolf Hitler
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Date: July 17, 2012 04:49PM
Republicans are the modern Nazi party.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Adolph
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Date: July 17, 2012 04:52PM
Adolf Hitler Wrote:
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> Republicans are the modern Nazi party.
I feel your pain. What is your address, I'll swing by and discuss Nazi history with you.
P.S. You aren't a nigger or a Jew, right?
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> Republicans are the modern Nazi party.
I feel your pain. What is your address, I'll swing by and discuss Nazi history with you.
P.S. You aren't a nigger or a Jew, right?
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
afghan hound
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Date: July 17, 2012 04:54PM
stephen Wrote:
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> I think Republicans are slime, and will do what
> ever they can to take our rights away. Nyc says
> virginia Guns are killing New york city kids, so
> the republicans encreased Gun sales, while
> claiming to protect kids. Scumb Bags is what they
> should call their party.
FCPS student for sure. Tallest kid in the sixth grade but only because he is 16 years old
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> I think Republicans are slime, and will do what
> ever they can to take our rights away. Nyc says
> virginia Guns are killing New york city kids, so
> the republicans encreased Gun sales, while
> claiming to protect kids. Scumb Bags is what they
> should call their party.
FCPS student for sure. Tallest kid in the sixth grade but only because he is 16 years old
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Truthteller
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:08PM
Great to hear from you, Fidel! How're those socialist policies bringing prosperity to your beloved Cuba?
Libs are clearly retarded and unable to learn from the past. Socialism ALWAYS makes everyone equally poor!
Libs are clearly retarded and unable to learn from the past. Socialism ALWAYS makes everyone equally poor!
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Two Cents
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:11PM
Thanks! That's just what we need! Another thread on how bad the Republicans are!
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
3CENTS
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:15PM
Yeah Socialism sucks!
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Warren B
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:18PM
Do you know how the Dow works, how it sheds unproductive companies for other companies? If so get back to me and we will talk
Re: VA Republicans are morons
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57 states
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:22PM
The star of a pro-Obama super PAC ad is speaking out against ... President Barack Obama.
"I could really care less about Obama," Donnie Box says of President Obama, according to In These Times. "I think Obama is a jerk, a pantywaist, a lightweight, a blowhard. He hasn't done a goddamn thing that he said he would do.
"I could really care less about Obama," Donnie Box says of President Obama, according to In These Times. "I think Obama is a jerk, a pantywaist, a lightweight, a blowhard. He hasn't done a goddamn thing that he said he would do.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
BelowMe
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:29PM
However the DOW works, it didn't work for Bush.
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
liars figure
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:32PM
I didnt think you knew
Re: VA Republicans are morons
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BOO HOO part I
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:36PM
Governor Bob McDonnell today made the following statement on President Obama’s devastating cuts to defense:
“Virginia is the home of America’s military. We are home to the Pentagon, to Quantico, to Norfolk, to Langley AFB, and so many other critical components of our nation’s armed forces. The President has put our defense budget on course for radical cuts that even his own Secretary of Defense says will be “devastating” to U.S. national security. An American president’s most fundamental duty is to protect our country. As the Governor of Virginia, but also as a veteran, the son of a veteran and the father of a veteran, I fully understand that what is at stake is not only a potentially major economic blow to the Commonwealth but a great deal more: namely, our national security in a dangerous world."
“Virginia is the home of America’s military. We are home to the Pentagon, to Quantico, to Norfolk, to Langley AFB, and so many other critical components of our nation’s armed forces. The President has put our defense budget on course for radical cuts that even his own Secretary of Defense says will be “devastating” to U.S. national security. An American president’s most fundamental duty is to protect our country. As the Governor of Virginia, but also as a veteran, the son of a veteran and the father of a veteran, I fully understand that what is at stake is not only a potentially major economic blow to the Commonwealth but a great deal more: namely, our national security in a dangerous world."
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Jess1
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:36PM
So you're pointing out that the Dow does best when nazi.... er, Republicans are the majority in Congress.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
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BOO HOO part II
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:37PM
Lieutenant Governor Bill Bolling today made the following statement on President Obama’s devastating cuts to defense:
“We are very concerned about the impact that sequestration could have on Virginia’s economy. We all understand that budget reductions have to be made, but we need to make targeted reductions, and we should not expect the defense budget to carry a disproportionate share of the cuts. If sequestration proceeds as the President wants, it could have a devastating effect on the military which would adversely impact Virginia’s economy and leave the nation less capable of defending our interests. It could also deliver a devastating blow to the private sector defense contractors who make up a big part of Virginia’s economy, especially in Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads. This is just another example of how the President’s approach to running the country is jeopardizing our economic viability.”
“We are very concerned about the impact that sequestration could have on Virginia’s economy. We all understand that budget reductions have to be made, but we need to make targeted reductions, and we should not expect the defense budget to carry a disproportionate share of the cuts. If sequestration proceeds as the President wants, it could have a devastating effect on the military which would adversely impact Virginia’s economy and leave the nation less capable of defending our interests. It could also deliver a devastating blow to the private sector defense contractors who make up a big part of Virginia’s economy, especially in Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads. This is just another example of how the President’s approach to running the country is jeopardizing our economic viability.”
Re: VA Republicans are morons
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BOO HOO part III
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:38PM
Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli today made the following statement on President Obama’s devastating cuts to defense spending:
“Even
Barack Obama’s Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, is alarmed about the
course the President has set us on. In fact, he’s highly alarmed, going
so far as to say that it will have the same effect as ‘shooting
ourselves in the head.’ For President Obama to play budgetary Russian
roulette with national defense is shameful. The damage to our local
economy here in Virginia will be enormous. But the damage to our
national security is what really counts. It is absolutely critical that
we seriously attack our debt and deficit problems, and that's going to
take cooperation to avoid these types of severe sequestration cuts.”
“Even
Barack Obama’s Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, is alarmed about the
course the President has set us on. In fact, he’s highly alarmed, going
so far as to say that it will have the same effect as ‘shooting
ourselves in the head.’ For President Obama to play budgetary Russian
roulette with national defense is shameful. The damage to our local
economy here in Virginia will be enormous. But the damage to our
national security is what really counts. It is absolutely critical that
we seriously attack our debt and deficit problems, and that's going to
take cooperation to avoid these types of severe sequestration cuts.”
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
BSSSS
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:41PM
BelowMe Wrote:
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> However the DOW works, it didn't work for Bush.
BS. Here's how it really looks in context of the larger market and over time versus the selective deceptive BS graphic.
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> However the DOW works, it didn't work for Bush.
BS. Here's how it really looks in context of the larger market and over time versus the selective deceptive BS graphic.
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
you lie
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:49PM
Forget Mr Bar Graph , it is something he got from bobama website. Probably also has a bar graph showning unemployment at 2% rather than the actual 15%.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
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Smaller govt GOOOODDDD!
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Date: July 17, 2012 05:59PM
The US Economic Impact of Approved and Projected DOD Spending Reductions on Equipment in 2013
by Stephen Fuller, George Mason Univ.
State Economic Impacts of DOD Spending Reductons
Virginia
Job Losses 122,770
Earnings $7.24 BILLION
Reduced Gross state product $10.5 BILLION
WHAT HAPPENED? All the Republicants have been chanting for smaller govt all along.
Could smaller govt mean job losses?? Say it aint so.
Could smaller govt mean loss of wages to a state? No way.
Could smaller govt mean a huge hit to Virginia's economy? OMG.
Somebody better tell these idiot Republicans what they have done.
by Stephen Fuller, George Mason Univ.
State Economic Impacts of DOD Spending Reductons
Virginia
Job Losses 122,770
Earnings $7.24 BILLION
Reduced Gross state product $10.5 BILLION
WHAT HAPPENED? All the Republicants have been chanting for smaller govt all along.
Could smaller govt mean job losses?? Say it aint so.
Could smaller govt mean loss of wages to a state? No way.
Could smaller govt mean a huge hit to Virginia's economy? OMG.
Somebody better tell these idiot Republicans what they have done.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
corporate welfare
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Date: July 17, 2012 06:00PM
Defense contractors not only want their spending preserved from sequestration but they want to expand the use of foreign labor on these projects.
"But sequestration wasn’t the only target on McNerney’s scope Tuesday. He also wants Washington to reform the way it handles visas and immigration, to make it easier for Boeing to hire and retain skilled foreign workers for its operations in the U.S. And he’s also on the “STEM” bandwagon, urging governments to do a better job getting kids interested in science, technology, engineering and math, so they’ll grow up to become brilliant aircraft engineers for Uncle B."
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/05/08/boeings-ceo-warns-washington-get-your-act-together/
"But sequestration wasn’t the only target on McNerney’s scope Tuesday. He also wants Washington to reform the way it handles visas and immigration, to make it easier for Boeing to hire and retain skilled foreign workers for its operations in the U.S. And he’s also on the “STEM” bandwagon, urging governments to do a better job getting kids interested in science, technology, engineering and math, so they’ll grow up to become brilliant aircraft engineers for Uncle B."
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/05/08/boeings-ceo-warns-washington-get-your-act-together/
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Bob always gets what he asks for
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Date: July 17, 2012 06:07PM
Bob McDonnell says he cut $6 billion from Virginia's budget
Gov. Bob McDonnell is urging the federal government to follow Virginia’s lead in slashing spending.
"When I took office last year we faced historic budget deficits of $6 billion here in Virginia," McDonnell said on March 26 in delivering the Republican weekly radio address to the nation. "And we closed those deficits by cutting spending, not raising taxes."
CUT SPENDING-----just not in Virginia.
Gov. Bob McDonnell is urging the federal government to follow Virginia’s lead in slashing spending.
"When I took office last year we faced historic budget deficits of $6 billion here in Virginia," McDonnell said on March 26 in delivering the Republican weekly radio address to the nation. "And we closed those deficits by cutting spending, not raising taxes."
CUT SPENDING-----just not in Virginia.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Chavez
()
Date: July 17, 2012 06:12PM
corporate welfare Wrote:
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> Defense contractors not only want their spending
> preserved from sequestration but they want to
> expand the use of foreign labor on these
> projects.
>
> "But sequestration wasn’t the only target on
> McNerney’s scope Tuesday. He also wants
> Washington to reform the way it handles visas and
> immigration, to make it easier for Boeing to hire
> and retain skilled foreign workers for its
> operations in the U.S. And he’s also on the
> “STEM” bandwagon, urging governments to do a
> better job getting kids interested in science,
> technology, engineering and math, so they’ll
> grow up to become brilliant aircraft engineers for
> Uncle B."
>
>
> http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/05/08/boeings-ceo-warn
> s-washington-get-your-act-together/
Yeah, cause we benefit much more from lazy ass Occutard English, History, and Sociology majors who spend 15 years getting multiple Masters at Columbia and then go on to 'work' at some worthless Left-funded foundation supporting Venezuelan political and socioeconomic studies. lmao
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> Defense contractors not only want their spending
> preserved from sequestration but they want to
> expand the use of foreign labor on these
> projects.
>
> "But sequestration wasn’t the only target on
> McNerney’s scope Tuesday. He also wants
> Washington to reform the way it handles visas and
> immigration, to make it easier for Boeing to hire
> and retain skilled foreign workers for its
> operations in the U.S. And he’s also on the
> “STEM” bandwagon, urging governments to do a
> better job getting kids interested in science,
> technology, engineering and math, so they’ll
> grow up to become brilliant aircraft engineers for
> Uncle B."
>
>
> http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/05/08/boeings-ceo-warn
> s-washington-get-your-act-together/
Yeah, cause we benefit much more from lazy ass Occutard English, History, and Sociology majors who spend 15 years getting multiple Masters at Columbia and then go on to 'work' at some worthless Left-funded foundation supporting Venezuelan political and socioeconomic studies. lmao
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
unsustainable and immoral, I tell you
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Date: July 17, 2012 06:12PM
'Supercommittee' failure worries Virginia revenue panel
The Washington Post | by Laura Vozzella | November 23, 2011
Washington inaction has Virginia business owners and legislators worried, Gov. Robert F. McDonnell said Tuesday, a day after a congressional "supercommittee"gave up on the task of cutting $1.2 trillion from the federal deficit.
"We have an unsustainable and immoral level of spending and debt and we are mortgaging the future generations of this country by failing to realize we have to balance our budget and make ends meet," McDonnell said. "We do it in Virginia and 48 other states do it as well. ... The day of reckoning is here. The bill is due."
Just don't make cuts in Virginia, ok?
The Washington Post | by Laura Vozzella | November 23, 2011
Washington inaction has Virginia business owners and legislators worried, Gov. Robert F. McDonnell said Tuesday, a day after a congressional "supercommittee"gave up on the task of cutting $1.2 trillion from the federal deficit.
"We have an unsustainable and immoral level of spending and debt and we are mortgaging the future generations of this country by failing to realize we have to balance our budget and make ends meet," McDonnell said. "We do it in Virginia and 48 other states do it as well. ... The day of reckoning is here. The bill is due."
Just don't make cuts in Virginia, ok?
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Cityslicker
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Date: July 17, 2012 06:14PM
The problem is there are a lot of net LOSER states in the US and the odd thing is these comes from many GOP havens. Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Iowa, Florida, and South Carolina are ALL net losers on revenue vs cost for the united states.
How come those states can't stop suckling on the teets of our states that DO make money for the country. New York, Virginia (specifically Nova and Hampton Roads), Massachusetts, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, California, Washington, Oregon
Does that second list sound familiar? Its where all the DEMOCRATS are
Get the fucking idea idiots, stop cycling our economy to other countries through multi-nationals who have no loyalty to the country that catapulted them to power, start encouraging people to live smarter, be educated, and work harder like these states are doing.
The biggest falisy is that "poor urban black people" are the ones who get all the social funding. In fact it is more likely that poor white people in dirt poor mud farms in the south and center of the country sap our funds, atleast black people in cities live in places where jobs are created.
How come those states can't stop suckling on the teets of our states that DO make money for the country. New York, Virginia (specifically Nova and Hampton Roads), Massachusetts, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, California, Washington, Oregon
Does that second list sound familiar? Its where all the DEMOCRATS are
Get the fucking idea idiots, stop cycling our economy to other countries through multi-nationals who have no loyalty to the country that catapulted them to power, start encouraging people to live smarter, be educated, and work harder like these states are doing.
The biggest falisy is that "poor urban black people" are the ones who get all the social funding. In fact it is more likely that poor white people in dirt poor mud farms in the south and center of the country sap our funds, atleast black people in cities live in places where jobs are created.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
OYZ
()
Date: July 17, 2012 06:15PM
NAWT Wrote:
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> ALL Republicans are Morons.
> Virginia Republicans are just dumber than most.
>
> Look at Ken Cuccinelli, spending our millions of
> tax dollars to fight stupid and unnecessary legal
> battles over non-issues like the Affordable Care
> Act, extending benefits to gay state employees,
> climate research at UVA, etc.
He's doing the job I expected him to do when I voted for him.
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> ALL Republicans are Morons.
> Virginia Republicans are just dumber than most.
>
> Look at Ken Cuccinelli, spending our millions of
> tax dollars to fight stupid and unnecessary legal
> battles over non-issues like the Affordable Care
> Act, extending benefits to gay state employees,
> climate research at UVA, etc.
He's doing the job I expected him to do when I voted for him.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
ouch--that should hurt
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Date: July 17, 2012 06:55PM
Lockheed May Fire 10,000 Under Budget Cuts, Stevens Says
By Laura Litvan and Roxana Tiron - Jul 17, 2012
Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT) may have to dismiss about 10,000 of its 120,000 employees if Congress doesn’t avert $1.2 trillion in across-the-board cuts to federal spending, according to Robert Stevens, the company’s chief.
The “seat of the pants” estimate is based on expected budget cuts of about 10 percent in defense and 8 percent in other government programs, according to testimony that Stevens, chairman and chief executive officer of the world’s largest defense contractor, plans to deliver to the House Armed Services Committee tomorrow.
By Laura Litvan and Roxana Tiron - Jul 17, 2012
Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT) may have to dismiss about 10,000 of its 120,000 employees if Congress doesn’t avert $1.2 trillion in across-the-board cuts to federal spending, according to Robert Stevens, the company’s chief.
The “seat of the pants” estimate is based on expected budget cuts of about 10 percent in defense and 8 percent in other government programs, according to testimony that Stevens, chairman and chief executive officer of the world’s largest defense contractor, plans to deliver to the House Armed Services Committee tomorrow.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
BrianSchoeneman
()
Date: July 17, 2012 07:12PM
So Virginia Republicans should bow to party ideology and ignore the damage sequestration will do to their constituents?
How does that make any sense?
How does that make any sense?
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
BelowMe
()
Date: July 17, 2012 07:20PM
This is a really good set of numbers and its just killing the folks who don't like the fact that some things are better under Obama that Kenyan, Muslim, Marxist.
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
David Rothschild
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Date: July 17, 2012 07:43PM
An increase in money for Wall Street means "things are better"?
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
TruthisBelowYou
()
Date: July 17, 2012 07:51PM
BelowMe Wrote:
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> This is a really good set of numbers and its just
> killing the folks who don't like the fact that
> some things are better under Obama that Kenyan,
> Muslim, Marxist.
Except for the fact that they aren't. lol
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> This is a really good set of numbers and its just
> killing the folks who don't like the fact that
> some things are better under Obama that Kenyan,
> Muslim, Marxist.
Except for the fact that they aren't. lol
.
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
D'oh
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Date: July 17, 2012 08:23PM
Everything you post shows an upward trend since Obama took office...DOLT!
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Posted by:
Barack is a Lock in 2012
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Date: July 17, 2012 08:30PM
Government helped to create this unbelievable American system that you have that has allowed you to thrive. The Government invested in roads, bridges, internet, curbs and gutters. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. The Government makes that happen and it will only continue to happen if President Obama gets reelected.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
BrianSchoeneman
()
Date: July 17, 2012 08:40PM
That's a pretty good troll.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
BS numbers are BS
()
Date: July 17, 2012 09:17PM
D'oh Wrote:
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> Everything you post shows an upward trend since
> Obama took office...DOLT!
Uhhh, dumbshit. From 0 to 5 is an "upward trend." It still sucks when you need to get back to 10.
The fact is that the market still has not recovered to the level that it should be by now and remains below where it was. Furthermore, counting coming back from the absolute low of the market is deceptive. Most of that is automatic just based on the numbers. Although the number might be lower, getting a 10% or 20% gain on top of an already higher market is significantly more valuable and much harder to do.
Not that the President has a whole hell of a lot to do with the market to begin with but your graphic is nothing but pure bullshit.
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> Everything you post shows an upward trend since
> Obama took office...DOLT!
Uhhh, dumbshit. From 0 to 5 is an "upward trend." It still sucks when you need to get back to 10.
The fact is that the market still has not recovered to the level that it should be by now and remains below where it was. Furthermore, counting coming back from the absolute low of the market is deceptive. Most of that is automatic just based on the numbers. Although the number might be lower, getting a 10% or 20% gain on top of an already higher market is significantly more valuable and much harder to do.
Not that the President has a whole hell of a lot to do with the market to begin with but your graphic is nothing but pure bullshit.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Gerald the Connolly, Boss
()
Date: July 17, 2012 09:33PM
I support crippling cuts to defense spending. It's not like it's good for Virginia or anything.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
D'oh
()
Date: July 17, 2012 09:35PM
Why did Obama get elected in the first place?
Why was the economy in the shitter when Obama took office?
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Typical
()
Date: July 17, 2012 10:01PM
D'oh Wrote:
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> Why did Obama get elected in the first place?
> Why was the economy in the shitter when Obama took
> office?
Hahahahaha. Typical Dem. When all of your bullshit fails, blame Bush.
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> Why did Obama get elected in the first place?
> Why was the economy in the shitter when Obama took
> office?
Hahahahaha. Typical Dem. When all of your bullshit fails, blame Bush.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Serusly
()
Date: July 17, 2012 10:09PM
When are those 10 year old Bush Tax Cuts gonna kick start the economy, create jobs, and get Americia back on track? This decade or the next?
Mittens says we need to extend them. Why?
Mittens says we need to extend them. Why?
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Derppp
()
Date: July 17, 2012 10:45PM
Serusly Wrote:
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> When are those 10 year old Bush Tax Cuts gonna
> kick start the economy, create jobs, and get
> Americia back on track? This decade or the next?
>
> Mittens says we need to extend them. Why?
WHy do you idiots read and repeat the same tired shit from MSNBC or whatever lameass Dem tweet just to get shot with facts down over and over? Oh wait... You're idiots! That explains a lot. lol
They did work. See private sector employment numbers below.
And if you haven't been keeping up, Bama wants to extend the Bush tax cuts too.
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> When are those 10 year old Bush Tax Cuts gonna
> kick start the economy, create jobs, and get
> Americia back on track? This decade or the next?
>
> Mittens says we need to extend them. Why?
WHy do you idiots read and repeat the same tired shit from MSNBC or whatever lameass Dem tweet just to get shot with facts down over and over? Oh wait... You're idiots! That explains a lot. lol
They did work. See private sector employment numbers below.
And if you haven't been keeping up, Bama wants to extend the Bush tax cuts too.
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
well
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Date: July 18, 2012 03:12AM
Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama revitalized his push for holding down middle-class tax rates Monday, calling on Congress to pass a one-year extension of the Bush-era tax cuts for people earning less than $250,000 a year.
In a White House statement delivered while people described as working Americans stood behind him, Obama said his proposal would provide the certainty of no tax increase next year for 98% of Americans.
Noting that Republicans seek to maintain all of the Bush tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003, Obama said both sides therefore agree on extending the lower rates for middle-class families.
"Let's agree to do what we agree on, right?" Obama said to laughter and applause in the East Room. "That's what compromise is all about."
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, indicated he would schedule a Senate vote on Obama's proposal, while House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Virginia, said the chamber would vote later this month on a one-year extension of the Bush tax cuts for everyone.
Get your facts straight dumb ass dem just spouting stupid shit about republicans
In a White House statement delivered while people described as working Americans stood behind him, Obama said his proposal would provide the certainty of no tax increase next year for 98% of Americans.
Noting that Republicans seek to maintain all of the Bush tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003, Obama said both sides therefore agree on extending the lower rates for middle-class families.
"Let's agree to do what we agree on, right?" Obama said to laughter and applause in the East Room. "That's what compromise is all about."
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, indicated he would schedule a Senate vote on Obama's proposal, while House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Virginia, said the chamber would vote later this month on a one-year extension of the Bush tax cuts for everyone.
Get your facts straight dumb ass dem just spouting stupid shit about republicans
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
DERPHeavy
()
Date: July 18, 2012 05:01AM
^^Why the flip does yer graph have a complete dive into the toilet meltdown on Bush's watch? You can post graph after graph and the facts are the facts. The GOP absolutely tanked our economy on failed policies of lower taxes and incredibly stupid deficit spending. And of course - starting a couple trillion dollar war against the 9/11 perps, and then hanging a 1500 mile left turn towards Iraq really helped.
Americans died for what in Iraq - WMD?
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Posted by:
dubya
()
Date: July 18, 2012 06:48AM
DERPHeavy Wrote:
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> ^^Why the flip does yer graph have a complete dive
> into the toilet meltdown on Bush's watch? You can
> post graph after graph and the facts are the
> facts. The GOP absolutely tanked our economy on
> failed policies of lower taxes and incredibly
> stupid deficit spending. And of course - starting
> a couple trillion dollar war against the 9/11
> perps, and then hanging a 1500 mile left turn
> towards Iraq really helped.
>
> Americans died for what in Iraq - WMD?
To finish Dubya's daddy's war and kill Saddam like Herbert Walker should have done in the first place in the Gulf War.
If Obama brings the economy further out of the hole Dubya left it in during his next four years, Dubya will go down as one of the worst Presidents this country has had in history.
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> ^^Why the flip does yer graph have a complete dive
> into the toilet meltdown on Bush's watch? You can
> post graph after graph and the facts are the
> facts. The GOP absolutely tanked our economy on
> failed policies of lower taxes and incredibly
> stupid deficit spending. And of course - starting
> a couple trillion dollar war against the 9/11
> perps, and then hanging a 1500 mile left turn
> towards Iraq really helped.
>
> Americans died for what in Iraq - WMD?
To finish Dubya's daddy's war and kill Saddam like Herbert Walker should have done in the first place in the Gulf War.
If Obama brings the economy further out of the hole Dubya left it in during his next four years, Dubya will go down as one of the worst Presidents this country has had in history.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
duhhhhhh
()
Date: July 18, 2012 07:40AM
BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
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> So Virginia Republicans should bow to party
> ideology and ignore the damage sequestration will
> do to their constituents?
>
> How does that make any sense?
Just to make sure I'm not missing anything here....
This whole thing is the result of that budget "super committee" that was supposed to get together last year and come up with meaningful, even-keeled budget cuts, but couldn't... right?
right?
So a year ago, Republicans were flipping their lids about decreasing spending and being willing to send the country back into another recession to do it if they had too (completely ignoring their own party's refusal to limit spending during any of it's last 3 Presidents).
This bipartisan budget committee was put together and Republicans stonewalled that as well, continuing with their whole "just say no" ideology and as a result, these forced budget cuts are looming.
It's Republicans' fault these budget cuts to defense spending are looming dumbfucks
Your team should have gotten off their obstructionist asses and gotten SOMETHING done for change, rather then trying to manipulate the entire country and all of our livelyhood in an effort to make democrats look bad, thereby making them look good.
Just admit it. It was really Republicans' obstructionist operations that put us here, now the game is to try to get out in front of it and figure out how to blame Democrats for it.
When all of these previously pro-republican defense groups realize their beloved
politicians sold their livelyhood down the creek, it's going to be funny.
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> So Virginia Republicans should bow to party
> ideology and ignore the damage sequestration will
> do to their constituents?
>
> How does that make any sense?
Just to make sure I'm not missing anything here....
This whole thing is the result of that budget "super committee" that was supposed to get together last year and come up with meaningful, even-keeled budget cuts, but couldn't... right?
right?
So a year ago, Republicans were flipping their lids about decreasing spending and being willing to send the country back into another recession to do it if they had too (completely ignoring their own party's refusal to limit spending during any of it's last 3 Presidents).
This bipartisan budget committee was put together and Republicans stonewalled that as well, continuing with their whole "just say no" ideology and as a result, these forced budget cuts are looming.
It's Republicans' fault these budget cuts to defense spending are looming dumbfucks
Your team should have gotten off their obstructionist asses and gotten SOMETHING done for change, rather then trying to manipulate the entire country and all of our livelyhood in an effort to make democrats look bad, thereby making them look good.
Just admit it. It was really Republicans' obstructionist operations that put us here, now the game is to try to get out in front of it and figure out how to blame Democrats for it.
When all of these previously pro-republican defense groups realize their beloved
politicians sold their livelyhood down the creek, it's going to be funny.
not ALL VA Republicans are morons.........just the ones that dont bother to think outside their box
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: July 18, 2012 07:49AM
@duhhhhhhhhhh - that's been the mantra of Obama haters since he's been in office. It's like they all forgot about DiTech loans and "Mission Accomplished" @dubya they want to stick their fingers in their ears and go "nyah nyah I cant here you" when you mention who was POTUS when Osama was killed and jobs started coming back onto the scene, y'know?
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Posted by:
cut taxes, not spending, ok?
()
Date: July 18, 2012 09:59AM
The RepubliCANT battle cry is cut taxes and everything else will work out ok.
$16 TRILLION debt---no worries...just keep cutting taxes for rich people.
It will all work out just fine.
$16 TRILLION debt---no worries...just keep cutting taxes for rich people.
It will all work out just fine.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
duhhhhhh
()
Date: July 18, 2012 10:04AM
cut taxes, not spending, ok? Wrote:
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> The RepubliCANT battle cry is cut taxes and
> everything else will work out ok.
>
> $16 TRILLION debt---no worries...just keep cutting
> taxes for rich people.
>
> It will all work out just fine.
Trickle down works dammit!!!!!
( of course, you have to ignore the last 30 years where it didn't, and ignore the fact that our biggest economic gains where achieved while tax rates were far higher than this, and ignore the astronomical change in earnings inequity over the last 50 years and ignore the stagnant real world wages for middle american over the last 30 years... but dammit, it works... just for the top half of the ladder, that's all.)
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> The RepubliCANT battle cry is cut taxes and
> everything else will work out ok.
>
> $16 TRILLION debt---no worries...just keep cutting
> taxes for rich people.
>
> It will all work out just fine.
Trickle down works dammit!!!!!
( of course, you have to ignore the last 30 years where it didn't, and ignore the fact that our biggest economic gains where achieved while tax rates were far higher than this, and ignore the astronomical change in earnings inequity over the last 50 years and ignore the stagnant real world wages for middle american over the last 30 years... but dammit, it works... just for the top half of the ladder, that's all.)
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
I see
()
Date: July 18, 2012 11:31AM
LetsRock Wrote:
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> fiscal conservatives? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Republicans’ Most Hypocritical Economic
> > Argument
> >
> > The Republican position on federal spending
> could
> > not be clearer: It doesn’t create jobs.
> Except
> > when it goes to defense contractors.
> >
> > Under the debt-ceiling deal reached last year,
> > planned spending is going to be
> “sequestered”
> > -- that is, cut -- starting next January. The
> > defense budget is going to take half the hit.
> On
> > July 12, Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign
> > issued a press release with a statement from
> Bill
> > Bolling, the Republican lieutenant governor of
> > Virginia, attacking President Barack Obama for
> > cutting defense too much.
> >
> > “We are very concerned about the impact that
> > sequestration could have on Virginia’s
> > economy,” Bolling said in the statement. He
> > added, “It could also deliver a devastating
> blow
> > to the private-sector defense contractors who
> make
> > up a big part of Virginia’s economy,
> especially
> > in Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads. This is
> > just another example of how the president’s
> > approach to running the country is jeopardizing
> > our economic viability.”
> >
> > The same day, the state’s attorney general,
> Ken
> > Cuccinelli, made the same point in his own
> > statement for the Romney campaign. And the
> > campaign hosted a conference call where
> > Representative Randy Forbes, a Virginia
> > Republican, said, “If you look at it from an
> > economic point of view, this is something that
> is
> > going to have an enormous, devastating blow on
> > Virginia, especially in northern Virginia and
> in
> > the Hampton Roads area.” There would be “a
> > huge impact on beauty salons, restaurants, car
> > dealers, the entire economy.”
>
>
> Defense is the only spending authorized by the
> Constitution.
What's your point?
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> fiscal conservatives? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Republicans’ Most Hypocritical Economic
> > Argument
> >
> > The Republican position on federal spending
> could
> > not be clearer: It doesn’t create jobs.
> Except
> > when it goes to defense contractors.
> >
> > Under the debt-ceiling deal reached last year,
> > planned spending is going to be
> “sequestered”
> > -- that is, cut -- starting next January. The
> > defense budget is going to take half the hit.
> On
> > July 12, Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign
> > issued a press release with a statement from
> Bill
> > Bolling, the Republican lieutenant governor of
> > Virginia, attacking President Barack Obama for
> > cutting defense too much.
> >
> > “We are very concerned about the impact that
> > sequestration could have on Virginia’s
> > economy,” Bolling said in the statement. He
> > added, “It could also deliver a devastating
> blow
> > to the private-sector defense contractors who
> make
> > up a big part of Virginia’s economy,
> especially
> > in Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads. This is
> > just another example of how the president’s
> > approach to running the country is jeopardizing
> > our economic viability.”
> >
> > The same day, the state’s attorney general,
> Ken
> > Cuccinelli, made the same point in his own
> > statement for the Romney campaign. And the
> > campaign hosted a conference call where
> > Representative Randy Forbes, a Virginia
> > Republican, said, “If you look at it from an
> > economic point of view, this is something that
> is
> > going to have an enormous, devastating blow on
> > Virginia, especially in northern Virginia and
> in
> > the Hampton Roads area.” There would be “a
> > huge impact on beauty salons, restaurants, car
> > dealers, the entire economy.”
>
>
> Defense is the only spending authorized by the
> Constitution.
What's your point?
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
BrianSchoeneman
()
Date: July 18, 2012 12:26PM
duhhhhhh Wrote:
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> BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So Virginia Republicans should bow to party
> > ideology and ignore the damage sequestration
> will
> > do to their constituents?
> >
> > How does that make any sense?
>
> Just to make sure I'm not missing anything
> here....
>
>
> This whole thing is the result of that budget
> "super committee" that was supposed to get
> together last year and come up with meaningful,
> even-keeled budget cuts, but couldn't... right?
>
> right?
>
> So a year ago, Republicans were flipping their
> lids about decreasing spending and being willing
> to send the country back into another recession to
> do it if they had too (completely ignoring their
> own party's refusal to limit spending during any
> of it's last 3 Presidents).
>
> This bipartisan budget committee was put together
> and Republicans stonewalled that as well,
> continuing with their whole "just say no" ideology
> and as a result, these forced budget cuts are
> looming.
>
> It's Republicans' fault these budget cuts to
> defense spending are looming dumbfucks
>
> Your team should have gotten off their
> obstructionist asses and gotten SOMETHING done for
> change, rather then trying to manipulate the
> entire country and all of our livelyhood in an
> effort to make democrats look bad, thereby making
> them look good.
>
>
> Just admit it. It was really Republicans'
> obstructionist operations that put us here, now
> the game is to try to get out in front of it and
> figure out how to blame Democrats for it.
>
> When all of these previously pro-republican
> defense groups realize their beloved
> politicians sold their livelyhood down the creek,
> it's going to be funny.
This sequestration was a compromise designed to force concessions, and it was a compromise that was agreed to by Reid, the Democrats in the Senate and the President.
Both sides share the blame here. But it's not so much about blame as actually getting a package of cuts put together than meets the requirements of the Budget Control Act and doesn't force the $500 billion in defense cuts that will hurt Virginia.
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> BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So Virginia Republicans should bow to party
> > ideology and ignore the damage sequestration
> will
> > do to their constituents?
> >
> > How does that make any sense?
>
> Just to make sure I'm not missing anything
> here....
>
>
> This whole thing is the result of that budget
> "super committee" that was supposed to get
> together last year and come up with meaningful,
> even-keeled budget cuts, but couldn't... right?
>
> right?
>
> So a year ago, Republicans were flipping their
> lids about decreasing spending and being willing
> to send the country back into another recession to
> do it if they had too (completely ignoring their
> own party's refusal to limit spending during any
> of it's last 3 Presidents).
>
> This bipartisan budget committee was put together
> and Republicans stonewalled that as well,
> continuing with their whole "just say no" ideology
> and as a result, these forced budget cuts are
> looming.
>
> It's Republicans' fault these budget cuts to
> defense spending are looming dumbfucks
>
> Your team should have gotten off their
> obstructionist asses and gotten SOMETHING done for
> change, rather then trying to manipulate the
> entire country and all of our livelyhood in an
> effort to make democrats look bad, thereby making
> them look good.
>
>
> Just admit it. It was really Republicans'
> obstructionist operations that put us here, now
> the game is to try to get out in front of it and
> figure out how to blame Democrats for it.
>
> When all of these previously pro-republican
> defense groups realize their beloved
> politicians sold their livelyhood down the creek,
> it's going to be funny.
This sequestration was a compromise designed to force concessions, and it was a compromise that was agreed to by Reid, the Democrats in the Senate and the President.
Both sides share the blame here. But it's not so much about blame as actually getting a package of cuts put together than meets the requirements of the Budget Control Act and doesn't force the $500 billion in defense cuts that will hurt Virginia.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
duhhhhhh
()
Date: July 18, 2012 12:37PM
BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
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>
> This sequestration was a compromise designed to
> force concessions, and it was a compromise that
> was agreed to by Reid, the Democrats in the Senate
> and the President.
>
> Both sides share the blame here. But it's not so
> much about blame as actually getting a package of
> cuts put together than meets the requirements of
> the Budget Control Act and doesn't force the $500
> billion in defense cuts that will hurt Virginia.
You are correct, this package of cuts was designed to force concessions. Republicans refused to make any concessions, therefore, the implementation of these cuts is a direct reflection of Republicans' inability to make those concessions.
It's like blaming your parent for putting you on restriction because you broke curfew.
As previously noted many many times, the end result came down to Dems agreeing to 1+ trillion in spending cuts, and Republicans refusing to agree to any sort of tax increases.
Republicans played the obstructionist role in this negotation, PRECISELY as they've done for the past 2 years, and now that the agreed upon cuts are looming they are trying to shift the blame for their lack of concessions on Democrats.
Just admit it, ya'll got your asses handed too you on this one.
Republicans walked into that room with all of the leverage and walked out with nothing but your beloved defense industry (and all it's Republican supporters) getting slashed and burned at your feet & now you want to try to blame Democrats for it.
BTW, notice the interesting parallel between the actions of the two parties comparing now & the aftermath of the Great Depression ?
Democratic leaders kickstarted the recovery after the Great Depression via social & infrastructure spending.
2 years later, Republicans won Congress claiming the Dems were spending too much & weren't creating enough recovery quickly enough and that they could do it better.
Repubs went on a 2 year obstructionist kick hoping to stall the recovery so as to blame the Democrat President for the economic woes and win back the White House.
Its the EXACT same strategy they have used for the past 3 years.
They can't even come up with an innovative way to fuck everybody over...
ahahaha
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>
> This sequestration was a compromise designed to
> force concessions, and it was a compromise that
> was agreed to by Reid, the Democrats in the Senate
> and the President.
>
> Both sides share the blame here. But it's not so
> much about blame as actually getting a package of
> cuts put together than meets the requirements of
> the Budget Control Act and doesn't force the $500
> billion in defense cuts that will hurt Virginia.
You are correct, this package of cuts was designed to force concessions. Republicans refused to make any concessions, therefore, the implementation of these cuts is a direct reflection of Republicans' inability to make those concessions.
It's like blaming your parent for putting you on restriction because you broke curfew.
As previously noted many many times, the end result came down to Dems agreeing to 1+ trillion in spending cuts, and Republicans refusing to agree to any sort of tax increases.
Republicans played the obstructionist role in this negotation, PRECISELY as they've done for the past 2 years, and now that the agreed upon cuts are looming they are trying to shift the blame for their lack of concessions on Democrats.
Just admit it, ya'll got your asses handed too you on this one.
Republicans walked into that room with all of the leverage and walked out with nothing but your beloved defense industry (and all it's Republican supporters) getting slashed and burned at your feet & now you want to try to blame Democrats for it.
BTW, notice the interesting parallel between the actions of the two parties comparing now & the aftermath of the Great Depression ?
Democratic leaders kickstarted the recovery after the Great Depression via social & infrastructure spending.
2 years later, Republicans won Congress claiming the Dems were spending too much & weren't creating enough recovery quickly enough and that they could do it better.
Repubs went on a 2 year obstructionist kick hoping to stall the recovery so as to blame the Democrat President for the economic woes and win back the White House.
Its the EXACT same strategy they have used for the past 3 years.
They can't even come up with an innovative way to fuck everybody over...
ahahaha
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
YesURDerpHeavy
()
Date: July 18, 2012 12:41PM
DERPHeavy Wrote:
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> ^^Why the flip does yer graph have a complete dive
> into the toilet meltdown on Bush's watch? You can
> post graph after graph and the facts are the
> facts. The GOP absolutely tanked our economy on
> failed policies of lower taxes and incredibly
> stupid deficit spending. And of course - starting
> a couple trillion dollar war against the 9/11
> perps, and then hanging a 1500 mile left turn
> towards Iraq really helped.
>
> Americans died for what in Iraq - WMD?
The 'dip' is you dipshit. lol
Objectively, the most recent crash can no more be blamed on Bush than the dot.com bust and the recession that followed can be blamed on Clinton. It was the result of 30 years of over-leverage by everyone involved from governments, to businesses, to wall street, to mortgage brokers, to real estate agents who helped drive the market up, to individuals speculating in real estate and spending unrealized value in their homes. You want to back out the crash from Clinton's numbers to show the net effect of the bubble when he happened to be the guy in the seat? Your graphic is like counting the diameter of a balloon that was being blown up until it popped. Not Clinton's fault. Not Bush's fault. Just events that happened during their terms as was the recession following 9/11. Likewise, I wouldn't consider Obama responsible for having to walk into a bad situation.
And WTF does WMD have to do with anything other than in your idiotic partisan little noggin? lmao I swear arguing with some of you pinheads is like arguing with mental patients. Just ramble off random non sequitur shit, none of which has to do with the stock market or private-sector employment levels.
But, beyond all that and getting your rambling brain, to use the term loosely, back on the subject, the graph shows a significant, rising rate of employment during Bush's term as well as a corresponding rise in the markets. The same also is reflected in overal economic growth. Whether you want to attribute that to the tax cuts or otherwise, all were significantly higher levels than is the case now. Your graphic is misleading and misrepresents a relatively high percentage gain to a relatively small number out of context with respect the underlying values and as being equivalent to or greater than what actually is a higher value. That is, moving from $1 to $2 is a 100% gain, but the value still is only $1. Moving $80 to $100 is 'only' a 20% gain, but the value is $20. Now which would you rather have in your 401K? lol
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> ^^Why the flip does yer graph have a complete dive
> into the toilet meltdown on Bush's watch? You can
> post graph after graph and the facts are the
> facts. The GOP absolutely tanked our economy on
> failed policies of lower taxes and incredibly
> stupid deficit spending. And of course - starting
> a couple trillion dollar war against the 9/11
> perps, and then hanging a 1500 mile left turn
> towards Iraq really helped.
>
> Americans died for what in Iraq - WMD?
The 'dip' is you dipshit. lol
Objectively, the most recent crash can no more be blamed on Bush than the dot.com bust and the recession that followed can be blamed on Clinton. It was the result of 30 years of over-leverage by everyone involved from governments, to businesses, to wall street, to mortgage brokers, to real estate agents who helped drive the market up, to individuals speculating in real estate and spending unrealized value in their homes. You want to back out the crash from Clinton's numbers to show the net effect of the bubble when he happened to be the guy in the seat? Your graphic is like counting the diameter of a balloon that was being blown up until it popped. Not Clinton's fault. Not Bush's fault. Just events that happened during their terms as was the recession following 9/11. Likewise, I wouldn't consider Obama responsible for having to walk into a bad situation.
And WTF does WMD have to do with anything other than in your idiotic partisan little noggin? lmao I swear arguing with some of you pinheads is like arguing with mental patients. Just ramble off random non sequitur shit, none of which has to do with the stock market or private-sector employment levels.
But, beyond all that and getting your rambling brain, to use the term loosely, back on the subject, the graph shows a significant, rising rate of employment during Bush's term as well as a corresponding rise in the markets. The same also is reflected in overal economic growth. Whether you want to attribute that to the tax cuts or otherwise, all were significantly higher levels than is the case now. Your graphic is misleading and misrepresents a relatively high percentage gain to a relatively small number out of context with respect the underlying values and as being equivalent to or greater than what actually is a higher value. That is, moving from $1 to $2 is a 100% gain, but the value still is only $1. Moving $80 to $100 is 'only' a 20% gain, but the value is $20. Now which would you rather have in your 401K? lol
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
GOP
()
Date: July 18, 2012 01:38PM
I am quite happy that the Republicans are in there keeping new Democratic legislation from getting passed. While I am not a Republican myself, I would trust the GOP before I would any liberal.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
presidential powers
()
Date: July 18, 2012 02:18PM
Presidents have ZERO impact on the jobless rate.
Presidents have ZERO impact on the stock market.
If you idiots are waiting for your internet stocks to go back to where they were--good luck with that.
Cutting taxes for the wealthy does not create jobs.
Mittens pays taxes at a 14% rate--less than you and me. Giving him more money in his pocket will not create any jobs.
Presidents have ZERO impact on the stock market.
If you idiots are waiting for your internet stocks to go back to where they were--good luck with that.
Cutting taxes for the wealthy does not create jobs.
Mittens pays taxes at a 14% rate--less than you and me. Giving him more money in his pocket will not create any jobs.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
David Rothschild
()
Date: July 18, 2012 03:01PM
That's not true. Presidents have a great deal of control. Hussein reapproved Shalom as Fed Chair.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
bomble
()
Date: July 18, 2012 04:00PM
3CENTS Wrote:
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> Yeah Socialism sucks!
There is a difference between the market and the economy as a whole.
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> Yeah Socialism sucks!
There is a difference between the market and the economy as a whole.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
3Cents
()
Date: July 18, 2012 04:08PM
Check out the DOW. Hovering at just below 13,000. Man Obama sure has helped turn things around.
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
LLKoolJ
()
Date: July 18, 2012 04:43PM
When do we get to see Romney's tax returns?
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Mitt creates wealth-for himself
()
Date: July 18, 2012 06:20PM
Mitt Romney touts his business acumen and job-creation record as a key qualification for being the next U.S. president.
In 1992, Bain Capital bought American Pad & Paper by financing 87 percent of the purchase price. In the next three years, Ampad borrowed to make acquisitions, repay existing debt and pay Bain Capital and its investors $60 million in dividends.
As a result, the company’s debt swelled from $11 million in 1993 to $444 million by 1995. The $14 million in annual interest expense on this debt dwarfed the company’s $4.7 million operating cash flow. The proceeds of an initial public offering in July 1996 were used to pay Bain Capital $48 million for part of its stake and to reduce the company’s debt to $270 million.
From 1993 to 1999, Bain Capital charged Ampad about $18 million in various fees. By 1999, the company’s debt was back up to $400 million. Unable to pay the interest costs and drained of cash paid to Bain Capital in fees and dividends, Ampad filed for bankruptcy the following year. Senior secured lenders got less than 50 cents on the dollar, unsecured lenders received two- tenths of a cent on the dollar, and several hundred jobs were lost. Bain Capital had reaped capital gains of $107 million on its $5.1 million investment.
In 1992, Bain Capital bought American Pad & Paper by financing 87 percent of the purchase price. In the next three years, Ampad borrowed to make acquisitions, repay existing debt and pay Bain Capital and its investors $60 million in dividends.
As a result, the company’s debt swelled from $11 million in 1993 to $444 million by 1995. The $14 million in annual interest expense on this debt dwarfed the company’s $4.7 million operating cash flow. The proceeds of an initial public offering in July 1996 were used to pay Bain Capital $48 million for part of its stake and to reduce the company’s debt to $270 million.
From 1993 to 1999, Bain Capital charged Ampad about $18 million in various fees. By 1999, the company’s debt was back up to $400 million. Unable to pay the interest costs and drained of cash paid to Bain Capital in fees and dividends, Ampad filed for bankruptcy the following year. Senior secured lenders got less than 50 cents on the dollar, unsecured lenders received two- tenths of a cent on the dollar, and several hundred jobs were lost. Bain Capital had reaped capital gains of $107 million on its $5.1 million investment.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
more wealth creation
()
Date: July 18, 2012 06:24PM
Bain Capital’s acquisition in 1994 of Dade International, a supplier of in-vitro diagnostic products, was 81 percent financed by debt. Of the $85 million in equity, about $27 million came from Bain with the rest coming from a group of investors that included Goldman Sachs Group Inc.
From 1995 to 1999, Bain Capital tripled Dade’s debt from about $300 million to $902 million. Some of the debt was used to pay for acquisitions of DuPont Co.’s in-vitro diagnostics division in May 1996 and Behring Diagnostics, a German medical- testing company, in 1997. But some was used to finance a repurchase of half of Bain Capital’s equity for $242 million -- more than eight times its investment -- and to pay its investors almost $100 million in fees.
Dade was left in a weakened financial condition and couldn’t withstand the shocks of increased debt payments when interest rates rose and revenue from Europe fell because of a decline in the value of the euro. The company filed for bankruptcy in August 2002, because of its inability to service a $1.5 billion debt load. About 1,700 people lost their jobs while Bain Capital claimed capital gains (net of its losses in the bankruptcy) of roughly $216 million, an eightfold return.
From 1995 to 1999, Bain Capital tripled Dade’s debt from about $300 million to $902 million. Some of the debt was used to pay for acquisitions of DuPont Co.’s in-vitro diagnostics division in May 1996 and Behring Diagnostics, a German medical- testing company, in 1997. But some was used to finance a repurchase of half of Bain Capital’s equity for $242 million -- more than eight times its investment -- and to pay its investors almost $100 million in fees.
Dade was left in a weakened financial condition and couldn’t withstand the shocks of increased debt payments when interest rates rose and revenue from Europe fell because of a decline in the value of the euro. The company filed for bankruptcy in August 2002, because of its inability to service a $1.5 billion debt load. About 1,700 people lost their jobs while Bain Capital claimed capital gains (net of its losses in the bankruptcy) of roughly $216 million, an eightfold return.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Not good enough
()
Date: July 18, 2012 06:28PM
3Cents Wrote:
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> Check out the DOW. Hovering at just below 13,000.
> Man Obama sure has helped turn things around.
Still a little short. lol
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> Check out the DOW. Hovering at just below 13,000.
> Man Obama sure has helped turn things around.
Still a little short. lol
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Dems rewrite history
()
Date: July 18, 2012 06:31PM
Fixed it for you:
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> Mitt Romney is well known for his business acumen and
> job-creation record, a key qualification for
> being the next U.S. president.
>
>
> In 1992, Bain Capital bought American Pad & Paper.
If I remember correctly, didn't the union at AP&P decide to play hardball with management, forcing the company out of business?
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> Mitt Romney is well known for his business acumen and
> job-creation record, a key qualification for
> being the next U.S. president.
>
>
> In 1992, Bain Capital bought American Pad & Paper.
If I remember correctly, didn't the union at AP&P decide to play hardball with management, forcing the company out of business?
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Ooopsies
()
Date: July 18, 2012 06:33PM
Oops!… Obama’s Top Bundler Jonathan Lavine Was In Charge of Bain During GST Steel Layoffs
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 5:43 AM
he Obama campaign blamed Governor Mitt Romney for the demise of GST Steel company in a video they released in May. The plant closed in 2001. Mitt left Bain in 1999.
For some reason the Obama camp forgot to mention this…
Obama’s top bundler Jonathan Lavine was in charge of Bain during the BST layoffs.
Chuck Slowe reported:
Blaming Governor Romney for any issues surrounding the failure of GST is wrong and it is a blatant lie. Mitt Romney had been long gone when the company started to fail and subsequently closed it doors. When are the President and his campaign hacks going to get the story correct? When are they going to get back to their economy and its dreadful condition? Mr. President, you can run but you cannot hide.
It turns out that Jonathan Lavine, current Obama bundler, was actually in charge, at Bain, during that period, when the layoffs occurred. Oops, that isn’t right, is it? Yes, that story is the one that needs to be reported on. Sorry Mr. President, your lies are just getting to be more than many of us are able to handle.
And, Jonathan Lavine is not your average Obama Bain donor. Lavine is one of Barack Obama’s top bundlers.
ABC reported:
While Democrats assail presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s Bain Capital business practices, Republicans note that President Obama has not been bashful about accepting cash from Bain executives or other high-profile figures in the corporate buyout business…
…One of Obama’s top campaign financiers – Jonathan Lavine – is also managing director at Bain, bundling between $100,000 and $200,000 in contributions for the 2012 Obama Victory Fund, according to estimates released by the Obama campaign. The president has also relied on other leading figures in the private equity sector as hosts for high-dollar fundraisers and as members of his Jobs Council.
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 5:43 AM
he Obama campaign blamed Governor Mitt Romney for the demise of GST Steel company in a video they released in May. The plant closed in 2001. Mitt left Bain in 1999.
For some reason the Obama camp forgot to mention this…
Obama’s top bundler Jonathan Lavine was in charge of Bain during the BST layoffs.
Chuck Slowe reported:
Blaming Governor Romney for any issues surrounding the failure of GST is wrong and it is a blatant lie. Mitt Romney had been long gone when the company started to fail and subsequently closed it doors. When are the President and his campaign hacks going to get the story correct? When are they going to get back to their economy and its dreadful condition? Mr. President, you can run but you cannot hide.
It turns out that Jonathan Lavine, current Obama bundler, was actually in charge, at Bain, during that period, when the layoffs occurred. Oops, that isn’t right, is it? Yes, that story is the one that needs to be reported on. Sorry Mr. President, your lies are just getting to be more than many of us are able to handle.
And, Jonathan Lavine is not your average Obama Bain donor. Lavine is one of Barack Obama’s top bundlers.
ABC reported:
While Democrats assail presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s Bain Capital business practices, Republicans note that President Obama has not been bashful about accepting cash from Bain executives or other high-profile figures in the corporate buyout business…
…One of Obama’s top campaign financiers – Jonathan Lavine – is also managing director at Bain, bundling between $100,000 and $200,000 in contributions for the 2012 Obama Victory Fund, according to estimates released by the Obama campaign. The president has also relied on other leading figures in the private equity sector as hosts for high-dollar fundraisers and as members of his Jobs Council.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Obama 2012 a LOCK!!
()
Date: July 18, 2012 08:26PM
Government helped to create this unbelievable American system that you have that has allowed you to thrive.
The Government invested in roads, bridges, internet, curbs and gutters. If you've got a business, you didn't build that.
The Government makes that happen and it will only continue to happen if President Obama gets reelected.
The Government invested in roads, bridges, internet, curbs and gutters. If you've got a business, you didn't build that.
The Government makes that happen and it will only continue to happen if President Obama gets reelected.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
check the mailbox soon
()
Date: July 19, 2012 11:10AM
It’s not only the Pentagon that has to plan ahead -- military contractors face huge obstacles. As most are required by law to give 60 days’ notice of impending layoffs, some are warning they might send out letters to employees days before the November election. (That may be an idle threat, but let’s hope it spurs Congress to reach a deal putting off sequestration.) In any case, suppliers might need to work out contingency contracts with the Pentagon, and smaller companies will need to forge survival plans in case the federal money spigot gets shut off.
BLAME THE REPUBLICANS, NOVA beltway bandits when you're out of work!
BLAME THE REPUBLICANS, NOVA beltway bandits when you're out of work!
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
more division hurts VA
()
Date: July 19, 2012 11:18AM
Virginia Dem Delegation Boycotts McDonnell Meeting
Wednesday, July 18 2012
Democratic U.S. Senators Jim Webb (D-VA) and Mark R. Warner (D-VA) and U.S. Reps. Jim Moran (D-VA-8), Bobby Scott (D-VA-3) and Gerry Connolly (D-VA-11) issued the following statement on the Governor's scheduled meeting yesterday with the Virginia congressional delegation. The Democratic members opted not to attend after the Governor's Office scheduled a Republican-only news conference at the conclusion of the meeting.
"Today's approach to what has always been a bipartisan discussion simply is not the Virginia way. For decades, the Virginia congressional delegation has had a tradition of productive, bipartisan meetings with a long line of recent governors, Republican and Democrat. At these meetings and thereafter, partisan politics always took a backseat to our combined efforts to move Virginia forward.Today's delegation meeting was derailed by Republican efforts to apply a partisan spin to the discussion and to the issues that face us. We reject this approach and find it to be contrary to Virginia's long traditions in such matters. Democrats in the Virginia congressional delegation understand and take seriously the potential impact of sequestration on Virginia's defense industry and overall economy. We are working hard to avoid spending reductions which would harm our national security. We had hoped to have a substantive conversation with Governor McDonnell and our Republican colleagues about how to do just that."
Wednesday, July 18 2012
Democratic U.S. Senators Jim Webb (D-VA) and Mark R. Warner (D-VA) and U.S. Reps. Jim Moran (D-VA-8), Bobby Scott (D-VA-3) and Gerry Connolly (D-VA-11) issued the following statement on the Governor's scheduled meeting yesterday with the Virginia congressional delegation. The Democratic members opted not to attend after the Governor's Office scheduled a Republican-only news conference at the conclusion of the meeting.
"Today's approach to what has always been a bipartisan discussion simply is not the Virginia way. For decades, the Virginia congressional delegation has had a tradition of productive, bipartisan meetings with a long line of recent governors, Republican and Democrat. At these meetings and thereafter, partisan politics always took a backseat to our combined efforts to move Virginia forward.Today's delegation meeting was derailed by Republican efforts to apply a partisan spin to the discussion and to the issues that face us. We reject this approach and find it to be contrary to Virginia's long traditions in such matters. Democrats in the Virginia congressional delegation understand and take seriously the potential impact of sequestration on Virginia's defense industry and overall economy. We are working hard to avoid spending reductions which would harm our national security. We had hoped to have a substantive conversation with Governor McDonnell and our Republican colleagues about how to do just that."
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Jess1
()
Date: July 19, 2012 11:36AM
more wealth creation - you may want to get "facts" from someone besides DU/Kos. BC couldn't have bought Dade Int. bc it (DI) didn't exist until after BC bought a smaller (going out of business) firm.
Oh, and they didn't "file bankruptcy" at all - they were bought by, and here's the quote from Wiki:
"In 2007 Dade Behring was acquired by the German conglomerate Siemens AG.[4] Based on Dade’s 83 million outstanding shares, Siemens’ offer of $77 a share in cash, on a diluted basis, had a value of nearly $6.4 billion"
Hell of a loss, there. Wish I could've lost that much!
Oh, and they didn't "file bankruptcy" at all - they were bought by, and here's the quote from Wiki:
"In 2007 Dade Behring was acquired by the German conglomerate Siemens AG.[4] Based on Dade’s 83 million outstanding shares, Siemens’ offer of $77 a share in cash, on a diluted basis, had a value of nearly $6.4 billion"
Hell of a loss, there. Wish I could've lost that much!
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Who are the big spenders??
()
Date: July 19, 2012 12:21PM
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Of all the falsehoods told about President Barack Obama, the biggest whopper is the one about his reckless spending spree.
As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno.”
Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true
But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.
Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed to increase spending more than Obama has.
Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:
• In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.
• In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.
• In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.
• In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.
• Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.
Over Obama’s four budget years, federal spending is on track to rise from $3.52 trillion to $3.58 trillion, an annualized increase of just 0.4%.
There has been no huge increase in spending under the current president, despite what you hear.
Why do people think Obama has spent like a drunken sailor? It’s in part because of a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal budget.
What people forget (or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress. The president only begins to shape the budget in his second year. It takes time to develop a budget and steer it through Congress — especially in these days of congressional gridlock.
The 2009 fiscal year, which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House. The major spending decisions in the 2009 fiscal year were made by George W. Bush and the previous Congress.
Like a relief pitcher who comes into the game with the bases loaded, Obama came in with a budget in place that called for spending to increase by hundreds of billions of dollars in response to the worst economic and financial calamity in generations.
As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno.”
Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true
But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.
Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed to increase spending more than Obama has.
Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:
• In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.
• In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.
• In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.
• In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.
• Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.
Over Obama’s four budget years, federal spending is on track to rise from $3.52 trillion to $3.58 trillion, an annualized increase of just 0.4%.
There has been no huge increase in spending under the current president, despite what you hear.
Why do people think Obama has spent like a drunken sailor? It’s in part because of a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal budget.
What people forget (or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress. The president only begins to shape the budget in his second year. It takes time to develop a budget and steer it through Congress — especially in these days of congressional gridlock.
The 2009 fiscal year, which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House. The major spending decisions in the 2009 fiscal year were made by George W. Bush and the previous Congress.
Like a relief pitcher who comes into the game with the bases loaded, Obama came in with a budget in place that called for spending to increase by hundreds of billions of dollars in response to the worst economic and financial calamity in generations.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Proverbial "S" hitting the fan
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Date: July 20, 2012 11:32AM
Sequestration cuts necessary
I am writing in response to the Fairfax County Times’ editorial [“Possible defense cuts alarming”] that appeared in the July 13-15 edition.
The claim is made that "nobody is looking forward to sequestration." I can't speak for the entire populace, but obviously neither can the newspaper — I am definitely looking forward to the military cuts in the sequestration. I say "military" cuts rather than defense cuts because our military is so rarely used for defense. The Department of Homeland Security is proof the Department of Defense is really the Department of Offense.
As I understand it, the cuts are $350 billion across 10 years, or $35 billion per year. Given the military budget for 2012 was close to $671 billion, the sequestration is slightly above a 5 percent cut. Not exactly a doomsday mechanism.
Now, no price is too high to pay to protect and care for the volunteer troops that make up our armed services. But the budget hypocrites in Congress want to point at the injured at Walter Reed every time a military cut is proposed, meanwhile spending billions on exotic weapon systems and foreign military bases that protect commercial security interests rather than national security ones.
The sequestration cuts might be alarming to the war profiteers that make our area one of the wealthiest in the country, but they are necessary to mend the damage from two unfunded wars.
A 5 percent cut to the Pentagon isn't a failure of leadership, it’s a step in the right direction.
Jake Janzen, Fairfax
I am writing in response to the Fairfax County Times’ editorial [“Possible defense cuts alarming”] that appeared in the July 13-15 edition.
The claim is made that "nobody is looking forward to sequestration." I can't speak for the entire populace, but obviously neither can the newspaper — I am definitely looking forward to the military cuts in the sequestration. I say "military" cuts rather than defense cuts because our military is so rarely used for defense. The Department of Homeland Security is proof the Department of Defense is really the Department of Offense.
As I understand it, the cuts are $350 billion across 10 years, or $35 billion per year. Given the military budget for 2012 was close to $671 billion, the sequestration is slightly above a 5 percent cut. Not exactly a doomsday mechanism.
Now, no price is too high to pay to protect and care for the volunteer troops that make up our armed services. But the budget hypocrites in Congress want to point at the injured at Walter Reed every time a military cut is proposed, meanwhile spending billions on exotic weapon systems and foreign military bases that protect commercial security interests rather than national security ones.
The sequestration cuts might be alarming to the war profiteers that make our area one of the wealthiest in the country, but they are necessary to mend the damage from two unfunded wars.
A 5 percent cut to the Pentagon isn't a failure of leadership, it’s a step in the right direction.
Jake Janzen, Fairfax
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Osama bin laden
()
Date: July 20, 2012 05:49PM
Osama bin laden
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Beew
()
Date: July 20, 2012 05:51PM
agreed. Obama is a murdering war criminal.
Re: VA Democrats are morons
Posted by:
Democrats are the Big Spenders
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Date: July 20, 2012 06:20PM
Fixed it for you.
Who are the big spenders?? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Of all the truths
> told about President Barack Obama, the biggest
> of all is the one about his reckless spending
> spree.
>
> As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I
> will lead us out of this debt and spending
> inferno.”
>
> Almost everyone knows that Obama has presided
> over a massive increase in federal spending, an
> “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs,
> our businesses and our children’s future. Even
> Democrats now understand it’s true.
> But the worst is yet to come. Although there was a big
> so-called stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending in
> the out years is even more than Obama is willing to admit.
>
> Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed spending better
> than Obama has.
>
> The huge increase in spending under the current president
> will actually take place during his second term and beyond.
>
> Why don't some people think Obama has spent like a drunken
> sailor? It’s in part because of a fundamental
> misunderstanding of the federal budget.
>
> What these people forget (or never knew) is that the
> first years of Obama's programs focused on
> increased regulations, increased "fees",and federal
> takeover of programs administered by the states.
> Once those changes are in place, the Congress will
> be forced to find the money to pay for them, or
> alienate all those who were promised free services.
>
> Like a relief pitcher who comes into the game with
> the bases loaded, Obama came in with a budget in
> place that called for spending to increase by
> hundreds of billions of dollars in response to the
> worst economic and financial calamity in
> generations. But he spent three years moving that
> money from job-creating private incentives, to
> temporary funding for government programs, knowing
> that they were unsustainable in the out years and
> future presidents would have to clean up the mess.
> Instead of a game-winning home run, he struck out.
Who are the big spenders?? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Of all the truths
> told about President Barack Obama, the biggest
> of all is the one about his reckless spending
> spree.
>
> As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I
> will lead us out of this debt and spending
> inferno.”
>
> Almost everyone knows that Obama has presided
> over a massive increase in federal spending, an
> “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs,
> our businesses and our children’s future. Even
> Democrats now understand it’s true.
> But the worst is yet to come. Although there was a big
> so-called stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending in
> the out years is even more than Obama is willing to admit.
>
> Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed spending better
> than Obama has.
>
> The huge increase in spending under the current president
> will actually take place during his second term and beyond.
>
> Why don't some people think Obama has spent like a drunken
> sailor? It’s in part because of a fundamental
> misunderstanding of the federal budget.
>
> What these people forget (or never knew) is that the
> first years of Obama's programs focused on
> increased regulations, increased "fees",and federal
> takeover of programs administered by the states.
> Once those changes are in place, the Congress will
> be forced to find the money to pay for them, or
> alienate all those who were promised free services.
>
> Like a relief pitcher who comes into the game with
> the bases loaded, Obama came in with a budget in
> place that called for spending to increase by
> hundreds of billions of dollars in response to the
> worst economic and financial calamity in
> generations. But he spent three years moving that
> money from job-creating private incentives, to
> temporary funding for government programs, knowing
> that they were unsustainable in the out years and
> future presidents would have to clean up the mess.
> Instead of a game-winning home run, he struck out.
Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
NAWT
()
Date: July 20, 2012 08:53PM
I fixed it for you with a picture
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
NAWT
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Date: July 20, 2012 08:57PM
And oh, by the way...
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
Forward!
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Date: July 20, 2012 11:05PM
It's actually gotten worse since this was done.
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
TemplarKnight
()
Date: July 21, 2012 06:48AM
Do the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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Re: VA Republicans are morons
Posted by:
looking for a handout
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Date: July 23, 2012 03:09PM
smaller government, smaller government......
Va. seeking storm assistance from FEMA
Monday - 7/23/2012, RICHMOND, Va. - Virginia is seeking federal disaster assistance for the estimated $27.5 million spent by the state and local governments to respond to late June wind and thunderstorms that left 15 dead and 1.3 million utility customers without power.
Gov. Bob McDonnell said Monday he is requesting the assistance through the Federal Emergency Management Agency. He said state emergency management officials have received post-storm assessments from local governments and are working with FEMA officials.
Some costs that are eligible for reimbursement include the activation of emergency crews to respond to the storm, the opening of shelters and the removal of debris.
As a result of the storm, a total 47 Virginia jurisdictions declared emergencies.
The $27.5 million estimate does not include damage to private property
Va. seeking storm assistance from FEMA
Monday - 7/23/2012, RICHMOND, Va. - Virginia is seeking federal disaster assistance for the estimated $27.5 million spent by the state and local governments to respond to late June wind and thunderstorms that left 15 dead and 1.3 million utility customers without power.
Gov. Bob McDonnell said Monday he is requesting the assistance through the Federal Emergency Management Agency. He said state emergency management officials have received post-storm assessments from local governments and are working with FEMA officials.
Some costs that are eligible for reimbursement include the activation of emergency crews to respond to the storm, the opening of shelters and the removal of debris.
As a result of the storm, a total 47 Virginia jurisdictions declared emergencies.
The $27.5 million estimate does not include damage to private property