FootballSEC1 Wrote:
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> Yes, SB-Yorktown 69-50 was a great--big scoring
> and momentum swings. Reminded me of the '07
> W'field--W. Springfield NR final when Glennon and
> Rehner were the QB: 58-34. W'field went onto title
> that year with all kinds of players on that team.
> Today, SB showed it had plenty of good players,
> too. Its D played great in the 2nd half and that's
> what it took to beat a Yorktown team that can
> score off anybody. SB all the way this year.
>
>
> EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just got back from a great shooout in Ashburn.
> SB
> > was down 29-28 in the 3rd after Yorktown blocked
> a
> > 2 point PAT attempt but then went on a tear.
> Based
> > on what I saw today, SB will push around CR
> champ
> > next week and handle the ER-NWR winner @ UVA.
> > Seriously great line play on O and D from SB.
> > Props to Yorktown; by half, they'd scored more
> on
> > SB than anybody had all year. SB too strong.
> >
> >
> >
> > Surprising Score Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Stone Bridge defeated Yorktown 69-50.

SB showed the heart of a champion in its awesome 69-50 W over Yorktown. Bulldogs were down 23-7 in the 2nd and Yorktown was putting up points like nobody has on SB in years. The O, D and specials all contributed big time after SB trailed 29-28 in the 3rd and that is why SB is the NR champ. Big time comeback!!!!

FootballSEC1 Wrote:
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> FootballSEC1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, SB-Yorktown 69-50 was a great--big scoring
> > and momentum swings. Reminded me of the '07
> > W'field--W. Springfield NR final when Glennon
> and
> > Rehner were the QB: 58-34. W'field went onto
> title
> > that year with all kinds of players on that
> team.
> > Today, SB showed it had plenty of good players,
> > too. Its D played great in the 2nd half and
> that's
> > what it took to beat a Yorktown team that can
> > score off anybody. SB all the way this year.
>
> >
> >
> > EasternVaFan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Just got back from a great shooout in
> Ashburn.
> > SB
> > > was down 29-28 in the 3rd after Yorktown
> blocked
> > a
> > > 2 point PAT attempt but then went on a tear.
> > Based
> > > on what I saw today, SB will push around CR
> > champ
> > > next week and handle the ER-NWR winner @ UVA.
> > > Seriously great line play on O and D from SB.
> > > Props to Yorktown; by half, they'd scored
> more
> > on
> > > SB than anybody had all year. SB too strong.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Surprising Score Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Stone Bridge defeated Yorktown 69-50.

There is no way SB could beat WF. The proof is in this game. Great job by Yorktown to make it a game. I told everyone that they would keep it close throughout the game. Cudos to SB for staying strong and not giving up and finishing the game. They should do well in the next rounds

Meanwhile in the 757....

Lake Taylor 54
Phoebus 0

Keepitreal you are clueless. SB gave the first qrtr away with 4 turnovers in 5 possessions then scored 55straight points. Put in 2nd team on both sides of the ball and gave up 21 points. This game was not as close as the score shows.

Phoebus Got CRUSHED??? WOW! They didn't even score. This Lake Taylor must be forreal. Good luck Stone bridge.

Agree w/Keep It Real. Yorktown was still up 29-28 in the 3rd quarter so the game was close until then. Also, we didn't give away the 1st quarter. We actually scored first and led 7-0 so give us credit for that game-opening drive. Yorktown answered with its own drive but was only up 10-7 after the first. But yeah they moved the ball every time we turned it over and that's how they built a 23 pt lead. They were better than anbody else we've played this year so far and that's what makes the comeback that much sweeter.


Beth Wrote:
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> Keepitreal you are clueless. SB gave the first
> qrtr away with 4 turnovers in 5 possessions then
> scored 55straight points. Put in 2nd team on both
> sides of the ball and gave up 21 points. This
> game was not as close as the score shows.

Link below to story behind Lake Taylor 54, Phoebus 0. Pittman had 23 yds in 17 attempts. Enough said. Today belongs to SB and I'm routing for them all the way.


http://www.dailypress.com/sports/highschool/breaking/dp-spt-phoebus-lt-gamer-1124-20121123,0,2700514.story


WHAT? Wrote:
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> Phoebus Got CRUSHED??? WOW! They didn't even
> score. This Lake Taylor must be forreal. Good luck
> Stone bridge.

WHAT? Wrote:
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> Phoebus Got CRUSHED??? WOW! They didn't even
> score. This Lake Taylor must be forreal. Good luck
> Stone bridge.


So does the Phoebus loss open the door for a Stonebridge state title or is Lake Taylor out to prove its win was no mere fluke?

Ok, it's SB v. Hanover, which beat Hopewell 35-7 last night. Earlier in the playoffs, Hanover avenged 1 of its 3 losses by beating Lee Davis. Based on yesterday's game in Ashburn, I gotta believe that SB will handle Hanover, and no disrespect meant. SB's lines will wear them down and the Bulldogs will win big on the road and make it to UVA.

Yhttp://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/high-school/hanover/hanover-stymies-hopewell/article_af115b4c-35f6-11e2-bfe8-0019bb30f31a.html


D5 Wrote:
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> WHAT? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Phoebus Got CRUSHED??? WOW! They didn't even
> > score. This Lake Taylor must be forreal. Good
> luck
> > Stone bridge.
>
>
> So does the Phoebus loss open the door for a
> Stonebridge state title or is Lake Taylor out to
> prove its win was no mere fluke?

Does anyone know if the W'field/oakton game is going to be broadcast on TV?

Oak 23-16 for the upset. After seeing them play LB, I could see their momentum coming. Great set of coaches from Oak. Was a great season for WF. I do although think WF would have a better chance in the playoffs. Who knows maybe Oakton can keep it going.

Congrats to Oakton! Honestly happy to see Westfield lose twice in a row in NR finals at home. Goes to show having 3000 students to draw from is not everything - still have to play the most important game and win. Welcome to the real world Bulldogs....

NRfan Wrote:
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> Both Regional finals will be jokes! Westfield
> will destroy Oakton and SB against Yorktown even
> worse. Centreville dominated the game last night
> BUT missed 3 Field Goals and had 2 TDs called back
> on penalties. Oakton is no better now than they
> were in the regular season.
>
> Yorktown is the most over rated team in the area,
> they beat up on National District teams, but now,
> welcome to the big time. SB will dominate Yorktown
> on defense, Yorktown will not score until SB calls
> the dogs off.


This just shows you know absolutely nothing about football. Both games were not jokes, in fact they were both unbelievable games. I guess winning the Northern Region D-6 means you are no good according to you. What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the game even started.

Please do us all a favor and never even try to comment or give state what is going to happen in a football game ever again, because you clearly are an idiot and have no clue what you are talking about.

LB Parent Wrote:
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> I'll admit that Centreville got outplayed and
> outcoached by Oakton, but Westfield is going to
> smash Oakton by 30.


Again you too are an idiot. Don't even try to comment on football ever again. Hope turkey was good at the Henderson household. I know it was served cold along with the side plate of crow you had to eat.

good to see a spread team win the region again.
Westfield having issues scoring points late in November of late While the Oakton QB showed how you throw downfield to slot WR's and run Zone reads to perfection. Way too good for Westfield to decipher.

Even better to see Westfield lose. I have seen a lot of the teams in the NR over the past few years and Westfield fans by far seem to think they are ENTITLED to win. Two choke jobs in two years, time to eat some crow with that leftover turkey.....

Westfield has 2791 students. Oakton has 2185. Robinson 2685. Chantilly 2631. Centreville 2381. Herndon 2171. Hardly such a difference to be so bitter.

Their 2 losses in the last 2 NR region finals can be largely attributed to 2 star athletes. Ken Ekanam and Kyle Downer. Sometimes you need the true superstar to push you over the edge. And while Westfield has had good teams they haven't had the stars like on past teams that went far e.g. Royal, Glennon's, Royster.

Not bitter, just happy Westfield lost!!!

Hats off to the oakton cougars! In all three games of the playoff games they were supposed to lose. First, Lake Braddock, then Centreville and now Westfield. Everybody including myself had doubts they would beat these teams in the playoffs. Great Job Oakton. Downer is an amazing player.

Congrats to Oakton on a solid win today. They were the better team on the field.

Congrats to Westfield on a fantastic season and fighting to the very end. Sorry to see it end, but anyone who thought this team would go 12-1 and play for the NR Championship after graduating 40 seniors and 20 starters is kidding you. Great season and disappointing end. They won with class all year, and today just wasn't their day.

Go Oakton, and represent the Concorde well in the State playoffs. We will be cheering for you.

Def props to the four teams that made NR finals: Oakton, W'field, SB, and Yorktown. Both games were memorable in their own right. The momentum swings yesterday were insane and nobody expected SB to give up 29 points in the first half and be down so much. Today, the intensity and D was so typical Concorde. No disrespect to any team, but it's not surprising that the past two years all four D6 finalists came from Concorde.



bulldawg Wrote:
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> Congrats to Oakton on a solid win today. They
> were the better team on the field.
>
> Congrats to Westfield on a fantastic season and
> fighting to the very end. Sorry to see it end,
> but anyone who thought this team would go 12-1 and
> play for the NR Championship after graduating 40
> seniors and 20 starters is kidding you. Great
> season and disappointing end. They won with class
> all year, and today just wasn't their day.
>
> Go Oakton, and represent the Concorde well in the
> State playoffs. We will be cheering for you.

What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the game even started.

Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times to to start the second half and scored all 5 times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored a few more times against a full JV squad to get to 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons. They had the worst defense SB played all year and that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown could not stop them and guess what an overrated team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you are Wrong

What game did you watch? We were down 29-7 in the 2nd quarter and Yorktown forced two of those turnovers with hits and then moved the ball on us after every TO to score. You have to give credit. And we trailed yesterday 29-28 in the 3rd quarter--first time this year. Nobody else scored more than 27 on us and Yorktown did that by half. We got tested and finally answered in the 2nd half As for the D, you don't know what you're talking about; SB gave us 7 to TJ; so did Yorktown; SB gave up 14 to Langley in the playoff game; Yorktown gave up 14 to Langley, too. Yorktown didnt' have enough athletes, played theirs both ways and ran out of gas when we were amping up big-time. They are better than any other D5 in NR except for us. No team, not even a Concorde, was beating us in the third quarter. So they were NOT overrated. If they were overrated, they would have quit after we scored on the first possession. Did you see how they responded and on our field?




Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
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> What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the
> dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> game even started.
>
> Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB
> had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times
> to to start the second half and scored all 5
> times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their
> stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored
> a few more times against a full JV squad to get to
> 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> They had the worst defense SB played all year and
> that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see
> if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown
> could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you
> are Wrong

Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
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> What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the
> dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> game even started.
>
> Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB
> had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times
> to to start the second half and scored all 5
> times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their
> stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored
> a few more times against a full JV squad to get to
> 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> They had the worst defense SB played all year and
> that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see
> if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown
> could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you
> are Wrong


"Yorktown was very overrated?" You must be kidding. They are the only team, not SB, to make the D5 final in 2010 and 2012. Yesterday, they went on the road and up 4 TDs in the first half alone. They moved the ball on SB at will in the 1st half and were still up by 1 after blocking a 2PAT try in the 2nd half. Nobody has played SB like that this year. I was at the game and saw a great comeback by a great team. Everybody knew that Yorktown is thin. You could see that when the QB went out for part of the 2nd half and when lost #8 who caused a fumble early. You don't know "jack" about FB if you still claiim that that team is "very overrated." Again, they are the only D5 to make the NR final in both 2011 and 2011. You can't fake that.

I meant to post that Yorktown is the only team to make the D5 NR final in both 2011 and 2012. It's tough to fake that. They clearly are no SB as we saw yesterday, but they're the 2nd best D5 in NR. They beat 5 of the 7 D5 playoff teams and didn't get a chance to play Madison. Why? SoCo beat Madison in the first round and then got smoked by Yorktown 48-28 in round 2. Madison was 2nd place team in Liberty and SoCo was 2nd to LB in the Patriot. Yorktown gave Soco a beating that up-and-down D6 champ Oakton only beat them 28-21.

As for W'field, what's all the hating about, people? They are 24-2 over 2 years and made the NR final in both 2012 and 2011. Given how tough the Concorde is, and how young W'field is, that's pretty good FB. Again, congrats to Oakton.



FootballSEC1 Wrote:
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> Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> > must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> > Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called
> the
> > dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> > game even started.
> >
> > Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half
> SB
> > had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> > and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5
> times
> > to to start the second half and scored all 5
> > times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> > Yorktown even without a chance to win kept
> their
> > stud Stewart in and entire first teams and
> scored
> > a few more times against a full JV squad to get
> to
> > 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> > They had the worst defense SB played all year
> and
> > that alone makes them overrated it was easy to
> see
> > if SB stopped giving the ball away that
> Yorktown
> > could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> > team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and
> you
> > are Wrong
>
>
> "Yorktown was very overrated?" You must be
> kidding. They are the only team, not SB, to make
> the D5 final in 2010 and 2012. Yesterday, they
> went on the road and up 4 TDs in the first half
> alone. They moved the ball on SB at will in the
> 1st half and were still up by 1 after blocking a
> 2PAT try in the 2nd half. Nobody has played SB
> like that this year. I was at the game and saw a
> great comeback by a great team. Everybody knew
> that Yorktown is thin. You could see that when the
> QB went out for part of the 2nd half and when lost
> #8 who caused a fumble early. You don't know
> "jack" about FB if you still claiim that that team
> is "very overrated." Again, they are the only D5
> to make the NR final in both 2011 and 2011. You
> can't fake that.

Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
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> What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the
> dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> game even started.
>
> Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB
> had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times
> to to start the second half and scored all 5
> times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their
> stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored
> a few more times against a full JV squad to get to
> 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> They had the worst defense SB played all year and
> that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see
> if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown
> could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you
> are Wrong

Your logic is lame. If we follow it, then we have to conclude that SB has been one of the most overrated D5 teams in VA over the past 10 years. How many times has SB come to states and gotten handled? That would be every year except for last year (when they got waxed in the 1st round by SoCo) and in 2007, the only year they won a title. Every other year, people talk all year about how good SB is--and then SB gets to states and can't win. Under your logic as applied to Yorktown, then SB has been overrated, too. So use your head. You know SB is a great program and so is W'field. W'field's loss today doesn't make them overrated and neither did Yorktown's loss on Fri. SB was a heavy favorite (rivals.com, SB -14) and they cameback and won big but they got severely tested for 3 quarters. Yesterday, Phoebus got homed 54-0. Does anybody seriously want to argue that they can't play, either?

Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
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> What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the
> dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> game even started.
>
> Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB
> had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times
> to to start the second half and scored all 5
> times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their
> stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored
> a few more times against a full JV squad to get to
> 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> They had the worst defense SB played all year and
> that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see
> if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown
> could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you
> are Wrong


First off, hats off to Westfield and SB fans on here because both of them are giving credit where credit is due and accepting the games as they were, which is competitive and the right team won. Westfield HS were great hosts and I love that stadium and how easily it runs on game day, and honestly I was never routing against Westfield, but against the Oakton haters such as NRfan and LB parent who made excuses and arguments that Oakton and Yorktown are either overrated or got lucky somehow. The only way to prove these arguments wrong is to play the game and both did and proved them wrong by a wide margin.

In NRfans exact words he stated that Yorktown wouldn't even score a point unless Thompson called the dogs off....didn't happen by any means and in fact Yorktown made a couple of SB coaches and fans soil themselves I bet. He then again stated that Oakton would get crushed by 30 points.....didn't happen. So defend him if you want, but let it be known that you too are an idiot for still believing your owns words and thought processes. I hope that's what you use to get ahead in life, because that means more advancement for others who actually use their noggen. please retort back because I am dying for your next intelligent response. My advice to you would to go get a tattoo on your chest of your family motto "shoulda, coulda, woulda".

I just want to know who won the westfield vs oakton game and what was the score?

Awesome response, dude, seriously. I saw a lot of talent and good play on the field today and yesterday. Both games surprised some people and sometimes it's hard to admit that our predictions aren't right. What's easy to get right is to say "hey, that game surprised me" and not hate on the teams that did the surprising. I also saw a lot of W'field people today giving congratulations to Cougar fans and the same yesterday at SB. Four good fan bases and four good teams and I hope both Oakton and SB do well at states.



NR fan is an idiot Wrote:
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> Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> > must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> > Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called
> the
> > dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> > game even started.
> >
> > Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half
> SB
> > had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> > and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5
> times
> > to to start the second half and scored all 5
> > times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> > Yorktown even without a chance to win kept
> their
> > stud Stewart in and entire first teams and
> scored
> > a few more times against a full JV squad to get
> to
> > 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> > They had the worst defense SB played all year
> and
> > that alone makes them overrated it was easy to
> see
> > if SB stopped giving the ball away that
> Yorktown
> > could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> > team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and
> you
> > are Wrong
>
>
> First off, hats off to Westfield and SB fans on
> here because both of them are giving credit where
> credit is due and accepting the games as they
> were, which is competitive and the right team won.
> Westfield HS were great hosts and I love that
> stadium and how easily it runs on game day, and
> honestly I was never routing against Westfield,
> but against the Oakton haters such as NRfan and LB
> parent who made excuses and arguments that Oakton
> and Yorktown are either overrated or got lucky
> somehow. The only way to prove these arguments
> wrong is to play the game and both did and proved
> them wrong by a wide margin.
>
> In NRfans exact words he stated that Yorktown
> wouldn't even score a point unless Thompson called
> the dogs off....didn't happen by any means and in
> fact Yorktown made a couple of SB coaches and fans
> soil themselves I bet. He then again stated that
> Oakton would get crushed by 30 points.....didn't
> happen. So defend him if you want, but let it be
> known that you too are an idiot for still
> believing your owns words and thought processes.
> I hope that's what you use to get ahead in life,
> because that means more advancement for others who
> actually use their noggen. please retort back
> because I am dying for your next intelligent
> response. My advice to you would to go get a
> tattoo on your chest of your family motto
> "shoulda, coulda, woulda".

Beth Wrote:
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> Keepitreal you are clueless. SB gave the first
> qrtr away with 4 turnovers in 5 possessions then
> scored 55straight points. Put in 2nd team on both
> sides of the ball and gave up 21 points. This
> game was not as close as the score shows.


It's you, Beth, who are clueless. What game did you watch on Fri? Yorktown FORCED most of those 5 turnovers you describe and outhustled SB to the ball. Not only that, they scored off long plays every time after a TO, the shortest being a 14-yard run. Your two TDs in the fourth quarter came from starters--your starting QB through a 90 yard TD to Yardsborough and Goldring ran back a kickoff late in the game to score. So don't even say that the varsity starters weren't playing key roles in the 4th. They did and if you ahd a clue you also would have noticed that Yorktown was subbing in the 3rd bc its QB and one LB both got hurt. They obviously had no depth or size and SB put on the best 3rd quarter I think I've ever seen-but your team was trailing in that quarter so don't make up stuff after the fact.

Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
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> What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the
> dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> game even started.
>
> Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB
> had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times
> to to start the second half and scored all 5
> times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their
> stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored
> a few more times against a full JV squad to get to
> 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> They had the worst defense SB played all year and
> that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see
> if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown
> could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you
> are Wrong


What game did you watch? Yorktown forced those turnovers so give credit for that and for moving the ball on us and scoring after every one of them. We trailed yesterday 29-28 in the 3rd quarter--first time this year. Nobody else scored more than 27 on us and Yorktown did that by half. We got tested and finally answered in the 2nd half As for the D, you don't know what you're talking about; Yorktown forced TOs and beat us to the ball on all four out of four fumbles. Also, re points, we gave up 7 to TJ; so did Yorktown; we gave up 14 to Langley in the playoffs; Yorktown gave up 14 to Langley, too. Yorktown didnt' have enough athletes, played players both ways and ran out of gas when we were amping up big-time. They are better than any other D5 in NR except for us. No team, not even a Concorde, was beating us in the third quarter. So they were NOT overrated. If they were overrated, they would have quit after we scored on the first possession. Did you see how they responded and on our field?And we still were using Burns, Yardborough and Goldring to score our 2 TDs in the fourth.

Good Job Oakton Wrote:
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> Hats off to the oakton cougars! In all three games
> of the playoff games they were supposed to lose.
> First, Lake Braddock, then Centreville and now
> Westfield. Everybody including myself had doubts
> they would beat these teams in the playoffs. Great
> Job Oakton. Downer is an amazing player.


Def good job by Oakton in all 3 playoff games. Gotta respect what they did and wish them the best at states. W'field had a great year with a young team but the big story this year is how Oakton got it done when it counted.

was a good TEAM.........The SB Yorktown game was at best a strange game those who want to give props to Yorktown don't know anything about football and who was a strong team and who wasn't including a fairly knowledgeable fan in easternva who just babbled nonsense at me. I stand by all my logic Yorktown's D sucked and SB shouda won, couda won and did win. By the way if you could use your noogin the term is shoudo wouda couda. To the SB fan who feels the need to be gracious - Yes Yorktown made some nice plays to create fumbles when SB was not taking care of the ball the first fumble the SB back did not protect the ball and the defender was beat and reached out and manged to hit the ball good effort but a bit of luck involved and poor play from the runner. Second fumble not one SB fan can say what happened it was on the far side of the field. Third fumble was a pile in the middle of the field again who knows if it was created by Yorktown or poor ball carrying by SB interception was an under thrown ball (but still a spectacular play by Stewart) Rather than argue with you idiots who take things so literal just read this account of the game they got it right and straight from the head coaches mouth "no one soiled themselves"

http://vivaloudoun.blogspot.com/

Your answer says it all and yet again proves your intelligence. Intelligence in both football and in the spellings of should, could and would. I guess they don't have L's on planet dumbass. No one here is disputing the fact that SB is the clearcut better team, we are disputing the fact that morons like yourself still continue to live on the fact that Yorktown would not be competitive, they couldn't handle SB in any facet of the game (please notice the L's in my would and couldn't), and that SB let them have these mistakes. I guess if SB has that much trouble holding onto a ball, then good luck with Lake Taylor if you play them. Nice article by the way, I mean I really expect any coach to say that he was nervous during a game to a paper who treats him like a God. I can't wait for others to chime in on your stupidity and still await one person who stands behind you. Better think of another screen name to support your beliefs now. I would do a spell check first though as you have been tagged on your grammatical errors and the red flag is out on you.

To all those who think Yorktown Wrote:
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> was a good TEAM.........The SB Yorktown game was
> at best a strange game those who want to give
> props to Yorktown don't know anything about
> football and who was a strong team and who wasn't
> including a fairly knowledgeable fan in easternva
> who just babbled nonsense at me. I stand by all my
> logic Yorktown's D sucked and SB shouda won, couda
> won and did win. By the way if you could use your
> noogin the term is shoudo wouda couda. To the SB
> fan who feels the need to be gracious - Yes
> Yorktown made some nice plays to create fumbles
> when SB was not taking care of the ball the first
> fumble the SB back did not protect the ball and
> the defender was beat and reached out and manged
> to hit the ball good effort but a bit of luck
> involved and poor play from the runner. Second
> fumble not one SB fan can say what happened it was
> on the far side of the field. Third fumble was a
> pile in the middle of the field again who knows if
> it was created by Yorktown or poor ball carrying
> by SB interception was an under thrown ball (but
> still a spectacular play by Stewart) Rather than
> argue with you idiots who take things so literal
> just read this account of the game they got it
> right and straight from the head coaches mouth "no
> one soiled themselves"
>
> http://vivaloudoun.blogspot.com/

You're quoting a Loudoun site as a nonbiased source of Friday's game? Give me a break and see below for what rivals.com posted about the back and forth of it. You say Yorktown "sucked," and I say you don't know jack and that your behavior on here is an embarassment. I've been watching SB since the school opened and nobody scored like that on us. They were a much smaller team, on the road, that outhit and outhustled us in the first half and still led 29-28 in the third. We all saw the game and we know that our heavily favored team was def better, but the views you've espoused here are not credible and sound like you're a hater, too. Read below what Rivals.com posted about the game and learn to respect our opponents' achievements. Oh, I agree with the dude's post from ER that under your logic SB has to be considered an underachiever at states all of these years vs. our reg season and NR performances.

Stone Bridge 69, Yorktown 50 (Final) Reply

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Two 12-0 programs battled in the Northern Region Championship game on Friday afternoon at Stone Bridge High School as the Bulldogs, from the Liberty District, played host to the Yorktown Patriots, who make their home in the National District.

In one of the craziest back-and-forth contests in recent memory, Stone Bridge battled back from a 22-point deficit in the second quarter with 55 unanswered points to take a 33-point lead in the fourth quarter only to see Yorktown cut it to 12 points before a kickoff return capped the scoring in a game that saw 119 points put on the board.

To all those who think Yorktown Wrote:
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> was a good TEAM.........The SB Yorktown game was
> at best a strange game those who want to give
> props to Yorktown don't know anything about
> football and who was a strong team and who wasn't
> including a fairly knowledgeable fan in easternva
> who just babbled nonsense at me. I stand by all my
> logic Yorktown's D sucked and SB shouda won, couda
> won and did win. By the way if you could use your
> noogin the term is shoudo wouda couda. To the SB
> fan who feels the need to be gracious - Yes
> Yorktown made some nice plays to create fumbles
> when SB was not taking care of the ball the first
> fumble the SB back did not protect the ball and
> the defender was beat and reached out and manged
> to hit the ball good effort but a bit of luck
> involved and poor play from the runner. Second
> fumble not one SB fan can say what happened it was
> on the far side of the field. Third fumble was a
> pile in the middle of the field again who knows if
> it was created by Yorktown or poor ball carrying
> by SB interception was an under thrown ball (but
> still a spectacular play by Stewart) Rather than
> argue with you idiots who take things so literal
> just read this account of the game they got it
> right and straight from the head coaches mouth "no
> one soiled themselves"
>
> http://vivaloudoun.blogspot.com/


Hey, don't associate me with any of your hating remarks about Yorktown or Westfield on here. I'm a big believer in SB even before I saw Friday's game. But don't be hating on Yorktown. They gave you guys fits for over half the game, and on your field. They made you pay for every TO, forced several of them, and lit up 29 on you by halftime. Your third quarter was as good as I've ever seen a HS team play--serously. But don't be hating on a team that gave you everything it had, whose skill players went both ways, and whose lines were no match for yours when push came to shove. Even with a hurt QB and that LB out, they still blocked your 2PAT to lead you in the third. They're at home now bc they aren't the better team and you clearly outplayed them in the second half. But don't act like SB is some dominator at states and that was my point in the prior post. You hate on Yorktown for losing but you don't see me hating on SB here even though your record even though ER has won 7 of the last 8 D5 titles and 13 of the past 20. I love SB football and I love NR and Concorde FB. Enjoy the sport. Give us some insights, not fan bias and this board will get a lot more interesting. So maybe let's talk about next week's games and get some predictions going. OK?



http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=2534&tid=160149958&mid=160149958&sid=914&style=2

To all those who think Yorktown Wrote:
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> was a good TEAM.........The SB Yorktown game was
> at best a strange game those who want to give
> props to Yorktown don't know anything about
> football and who was a strong team and who wasn't
> including a fairly knowledgeable fan in easternva
> who just babbled nonsense at me. I stand by all my
> logic Yorktown's D sucked and SB shouda won, couda
> won and did win. By the way if you could use your
> noogin the term is shoudo wouda couda. To the SB
> fan who feels the need to be gracious - Yes
> Yorktown made some nice plays to create fumbles
> when SB was not taking care of the ball the first
> fumble the SB back did not protect the ball and
> the defender was beat and reached out and manged
> to hit the ball good effort but a bit of luck
> involved and poor play from the runner. Second
> fumble not one SB fan can say what happened it was
> on the far side of the field. Third fumble was a
> pile in the middle of the field again who knows if
> it was created by Yorktown or poor ball carrying
> by SB interception was an under thrown ball (but
> still a spectacular play by Stewart) Rather than
> argue with you idiots who take things so literal
> just read this account of the game they got it
> right and straight from the head coaches mouth "no
> one soiled themselves"
>
> http://vivaloudoun.blogspot.com/


To NR FAN or whoever you are:
I enthusiastically agree with the other posts on here about SB's win Friday, including that your posts come across as being more of a hater than somebody who values sportsmanship and momentum swings. . I was at the game and I don't route for either team. I just like good FB and what I saw was that the team you say "sucks" outplayed and outhit SB in the first half. You were heavily favored (rivals.com, -14), at home and have 2 ESPNs, too. We all saw a great display of what SB can do in the third quarter. But Yorktown put up 29 on you at half and still had enough fight to stop the 2PAT and lead 29-28 in the third. You can "spin" it anyway you want but the people who actually saw the game know what happened. Oh, did you notice that The QB was hurt, plus they lost that #8 LB who was all over the field for them in them in the first half? They were gamers who had SB down in the third and on the road. If they "suck" for doing that, then you really are just a jealous hater.

I must say that I am shocked by the Westfield-Oakton game and did not see that outcome as a possibility. I stand corrected though and congratulations to the Cougars on a fantastic playoff run.

I will be at Oakton next week cheering you guys on.

Is it me, or is the Northern Region Championship trophy kind of small - given the effort that goes into winning it? I've seen bigger team trophies in youth football leagues.

steve k2 Wrote:
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> I must say that I am shocked by the
> Westfield-Oakton game and did not see that outcome
> as a possibility. I stand corrected though and
> congratulations to the Cougars on a fantastic
> playoff run.
>
> I will be at Oakton next week cheering you guys
> on.


Same here Steve k2.......Both last year and this year I would have rather seen the Bulldogs lose one in the regular season. Oakton played with an attitude of a #7 seed with nothing to lose and Westfield just the opposite. Many congrats to the Cougers and also to the Bulldogs for a fantastic season. Felt bad for those guys yesterday.

After watching both games...

First off Yorktown is not an overrated football team. I think Stone Bridge is just that good. Yorktown was very opportunistic in the first half to take a large lead. When SB settled down they played up to their ability and blew the game wide open. 3 fantastic players on the field Burns, Allen, and Stewart. All 3 might have been the best iv seen in the area all year.
Last thought I dont think it is fair to compare Oakton to Yorktown based off their South County games. As everyone said on this board Oakton is a very different team than they were week 2.

Secondly Westfield is always a great atmosphere and I enjoyed watching the game there. Oakton had a much better game plan and contained the run very well there was little opportunity for either team to throw the ball effectively. It is tough for those Westfield players to come up short for the second year in a row but they just did not play a better game today. They say you have to beat the best to be the best and Oakton beat the 1, 2, and 3 seeds. My hat goes off to them

just wondering Wrote:
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> Is it me, or is the Northern Region Championship
> trophy kind of small - given the effort that goes
> into winning it? I've seen bigger team trophies
> in youth football leagues.


Hey asswipe-go find the youth league board if your
complaining about trophy size.

You've probably seen bigger trophies in youth leagues because helicopter parents like you ensure that every little dick, jon, and steve gets a trophy just for trying.

Who gives a shit how big the trophy is? It's the accomplishment that counts. Just look at the ncaa titles - a wooden plaque no bigger than a legal size piece of paper

just wondering Wrote:
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> Is it me, or is the Northern Region Championship
> trophy kind of small - given the effort that goes
> into winning it? I've seen bigger team trophies
> in youth football leagues.

Trophy may be small, but your team year up on that banner is huge and there forever!!! That is all the trophy that counts and matters. Memories, team bonds/lessons, and work ethic gained is the prize they deserve and cherish I bet. Getting a fat state ring would be pretty nice too though.

thoughts Wrote:
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> After watching both games...
>
> First off Yorktown is not an overrated football
> team. I think Stone Bridge is just that good.
> Yorktown was very opportunistic in the first half
> to take a large lead. When SB settled down they
> played up to their ability and blew the game wide
> open. 3 fantastic players on the field Burns,
> Allen, and Stewart. All 3 might have been the
> best iv seen in the area all year.
> Last thought I dont think it is fair to compare
> Oakton to Yorktown based off their South County
> games. As everyone said on this board Oakton is a
> very different team than they were week 2.
>
> Secondly Westfield is always a great atmosphere
> and I enjoyed watching the game there. Oakton had
> a much better game plan and contained the run very
> well there was little opportunity for either team
> to throw the ball effectively. It is tough for
> those Westfield players to come up short for the
> second year in a row but they just did not play a
> better game today. They say you have to beat the
> best to be the best and Oakton beat the 1, 2, and
> 3 seeds. My hat goes off to them


Saw both games, too, and saw your post as insightful. See what you think of this one, even if it comes from an SB fan who might have some bias.

Oakton-Westfield showed us again how tough it is to escape one’s fellow Concorde teams twice in the same season. We saw that last year when C’ville won the 2nd of 2 close games with Westfield. This year, I should have believed after Oakton’s 2nd playoff win. Instead, I was still thinking they would falter at some point in regionals and was flat out wrong. They muted Westfield’s O for most of the day and make the most of their scoring opportunities.

SB-Yorktown: Unlike D6, in D5 you usually don’t have to beat a tough team twice to get to states. Instead, you run into one team that can beat you if you have a bad day. In 2011, it was SoCo. This year, it was Yorktown. We both were 12-0 and 24-1 over 2 years. We both lost to state finalist SoCo last year (Yorktown beat a young SoCo last week) and we both beat 5 or 6 playoff teams this year. We have 2 stars and players everywhere. Yorktown had speed and a few players. We saw all of that Fri. We jumped on them first possession; they answered and scored on us like nobody has in years (29 at half). Then our stars, our lines and our special teams (which scored 2 TDs) showed who is better. We learned that we can’t beat a team like Yorktown if we have TOs (see first half Fri). Yorktown learned that you have to play all 48 to beat SB. I liked Stewart, #12 (tall receiver), #45 and #8 (left hurt I think around half), but we had way too many players and we executed in the 2nd half.

Who are the next coaches to fall now that Taylor has gone? Fairfax, Woodson, McLean, West Springfield?

Fairfax will more than likely keep their staff. I don't think they've done a great job, but have had enough success to stay safe.

West Springfield's staff is doing a great job.

With Woodson's staff it remains to be seen what will happen, but I think they've earned a third year and have been improving. Not going to continue this debate though.

McLean will defenitely keep Worek as it was his first year.

I honestly see very little change this offseason in coaching staffs. The one major shake up I have heard, is Haddock over at Centreville may be on Phoebus's short list for their head coaching position down south. Now this is a dream job for a coach but whether he wants to move or gets offered the job is tbd. If it were to happen though, there is a good chance an established coach would end up at Centreville opening up another job.

Greatest response ever, "I guess they don't have L's on planet dumbass". I have been ..aughing for 15 minutes.

Go Hawks!!

NR Fanatic Wrote:
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> Fairfax will more than likely keep their staff. I
> don't think they've done a great job, but have had
> enough success to stay safe.
>
> West Springfield's staff is doing a great job.
>
> With Woodson's staff it remains to be seen what
> will happen, but I think they've earned a third
> year and have been improving. Not going to
> continue this debate though.
>
> McLean will defenitely keep Worek as it was his
> first year.


I think Fairfax coach (Simonds) is in his last year unless he produces a regional qualifying team. And even so, he might have to get to the semi-finals to keep it. He has very good talent there and needs to do something with it. You can't lose games to W-L and be .500 in district play and expect good things. I personally like where Fairfax is going next year and expect them to take down teams such as Madison and Langley who are their equal competition every year. Need a solution at QB though because Black was a very good talent. JV squad seems to have talent as their only losses were to SB and Westfield, but mowed down everyone else.

West Springfield isn't going anywhere. I think this was an up year for the Patriot with West Pot doing good and LB running the show. Very bad second half of the season with poor showings against TC and Woodson, but still got into the playoffs. There is a lot of youth on this team and I think a 2nd place finish can be expected next year in the district.

If they haven't gotten rid of the Woodson coaches yet, then they are given one more year. I think at least 3 district wins will keep their jobs safe so wins over TC, Annandale, and whoever is needed.

McLean was in their first year of a whole new staff basically, so they might have 2 more years to do something with it. They seem to be a consistent middle of the road team, but they seem to focus more on their matchups with Langley than making the playoffs. If this is so then expect a couple of disappointing years because Langley is looking sharp for years to come. Offense will need some serious work though as putting points up on the board was difficult for these guys.

Just my 2 cents.

Fairfax is in a sports "death spiral" due to an unlucky combination of personel and administration. Coaches such as Simonds & Freeman are loved (the exact word used by the current Principal) by the Fairfax City BoE/FHS admin, and "sports" in general are not supported by the Administration. I look for a continuation of the 00's mediocrity in most of their major sports...

With the way their school is structured and how large they are, they should be better than they are at many sports, but they are usually just above mediocrity. Football will be on the upswing I feel. I know people on here either hate Fairfax and make fun of them a lot because they didn't make playoffs this year when many ranted that they would, but Simonds is a good coach and has some good pieces in place. Their administration however does have some flakes within it. Melnick is really not the person for the job since she took over the position a last year. If she lets Simonds go, it will be a big mistake because they should push up to the next level soon.

Here is my ranking of Fairfax sports in general:

GOOD
boys basketball
cheerleading/dance
field hockey

AVERAGE
girls basketball
football
crew
softball
baseball
girls lacrosse
girls soccer
wrestling
gymnastics

BAD
boys lacrosse
boys soccer
swimming

Well, if by "Average" you mean "under .500", then yes, FHS has a number of "average" teams/programs.

Simmonds needs an OC. He has a great athlete in Nick Scott but does not know how to use him. The freshman team has more of a diverse offense for goodness sake.

Jess1 Wrote:
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> Well, if by "Average" you mean "under .500", then
> yes, FHS has a number of "average" teams/programs.


Average is meant that the teams flutter around .500. Sorry but not every one of those teams had exact .500 records as I thought I made that clear, but I will indulge you and add in the extra definition since it seems to be that you need it. Some were above and some were below, but usually they are in the middle of the pack when it comes to overall record and district play for the past couple of years. The sports are even at Fairfax across the board, and like I stated, they usually "flutter" just above mediocrity. Not a good sign with a student population of over 2,400.

"Average is meant that the teams flutter around .500."
So "flutter" means "constantly under .500"?
FWIW, other conference teams tend to do a bit better against non conf., so even if they split conf. games they still do > .500. FHS, for a variety of reasons, has not done so in a large # of sports over the past 10 ~ 12 years.

Well they did manage a field goal against us

Oakton and Stone Bridge are in a WHOLE lot of trouble if you think they are actually going to win it all.

Briar Woods, with over 2000 kids, still plays in AA and will win a third straight champuionship.

Not fair, really.

write it down now 2013 Westfield V Centreville region championship.
Westfield 35-10

It probably will be Westfield-CVille, but stop talking next year. Westfield has choked the last two years, enjoy your offseason and what could have been!

Lake Braddock will also have something to say about next year. Don't write them off.

Centreville is the team to beat the next two seasons. Westfield is not that great. Depending on the new coach Robinson could make noise just because of Wilson.

BTW there is a state semi game Saturday at Cinderella Oakton.
LC Bird 20
Oakton 31

Still depressed after Westfield lost Saturday, BUT----Go Oakton Cougars vs. LC Byrd - Represent the Concorde well! Westfield scrimmaged Byrd at the begining of the year and they are good. Would love to see a Concorde team go all the way. Good luck.

Play of the year, really. They don't have Downers, no time on the clock TD to beat Centreville and go to Regional final as an option......RIDICULOUS to not even have it as a nominee. BOO Allmet and whatever that idiots name is.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/post/help-us-select-the-top-play-of-the-football-season/2012/11/27/70d053f6-38a3-11e2-b01f-5f55b193f58f_blog.html

Bulldawg Wrote:
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> Still depressed after Westfield lost Saturday,
> BUT----Go Oakton Cougars vs. LC Byrd - Represent
> the Concorde well! Westfield scrimmaged Byrd at
> the begining of the year and they are good. Would
> love to see a Concorde team go all the way. Good
> luck.

Oakton-Bird should be good. Concorde is great prep for Oakton's D to deal with power runs that Coach Bedwell's teams always use. Hermy had Bird down 20-10 in the fourth 2 weeks ago but couldn't stop Robertson (200+ rushing). Unlike prior years, Bird can pass too. I'm going, hoping see Oakton do it again. Cougars, remind Bird that Concorde teams hit, too.

SB-Hanover: SB has momentum. After giving up 29 pts in the 1st half to speedy Yorktown, SB showed it has the talent and heart to be at UVA Dec. 8. Chasing Patriots is good prep and SB should win convincingly. This is not a slap at Hanover but an opinion about how good SB can play. Leave the conservative play calling at home. "Unleash the fury" as Tom Green said in Road Trip.

The best returning player in the region BY FAR is Pierson-El from West Potomac. Will he have the best stats. No. Shame

westpoop Wrote:
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> The best returning player in the region BY FAR is
> Pierson-El from West Potomac. Will he have the
> best stats. No. Shame

I saw him play and he has game--similar to MJ Stewart from Yorktown. Stewart ran for 200 yards+ on SB last week, intercepted a pass, recovered a fumble, and took a hook-and-ladder to the house as one of his 1st half TDs. Against SoCo (which finished above Westpo in Patriot), Steward had almost 300 all-purpose yards in a big W. I'm not saying that one of these players will be the best player in R, but they both have game. Your post suggests that Pierson-El won't have the best stats and agree that stats don't always show who can play. I hope they both have great seasons and pick a college that values their speed, ability and heart, despite their size. If I had to pick, it would be Stewart because he does so much on both sides. That's probably a big reason why his team is still ranked pretty high in coaches' polls and WaPo, too.

westpoop Wrote:
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> The best returning player in the region BY FAR is
> Pierson-El from West Potomac. Will he have the
> best stats. No. Shame

I heard from some LB players that Pierson-El is going to transfer to Braddock next year. Can anyone Confirm/Refute that?

I'm sure the LB players are saying that. They starting saying it last March, too.

Why would Pierson-El want to go someplace where he's got to share the spotlight? All District everything, District player of the year, regional honors, he's going to give all that up to get what, maybe a quarter of the touches he had this season? you make me laugh.

Nice try, Coach Henderson. Keep trying to dredge up that old rumor. If you didn't hear it from Pierson-El -- or more importantly his grandfather -- it ain't happening.

Your Grandfather!

Oakton lost.

Why the continued hate, yes Oakton lost. But they are the 2012 Northern Reginal Champs, let it go. It's in the books.

*Regional* butter finger....

Very dissapointing showing by Oakton. Concorde District should never have allowed a 1-4 conference record to slip into the state tournament. I think Westfield, Chantilly and Centreville were better teams than Oakton. However, Oakton got the job done so what can you say.

Yeah, Oakton had a great playoff run. I thought that Bird might be flat after tough wins v. Hermy (Bird down 20-10 late) and Varina and having to travel. Instead, they did what Coach Bedwell's teams do: run, wear down and expect big plays. Do you think Concorde was "down" this year? I wonder, with C'Ville struggling vs. D5 teams like Mt. Vernon and Hayfield (OT) SB soundly beating 'Tilly and Robinson, and Westfield being a young team that maybe overachieved in going 12-0 until the final. When I say "down," I mean "down" for Concorde. Concorde remains from year-to-year the best district in the state.



RydellRoad Wrote:
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> Very dissapointing showing by Oakton. Concorde
> District should never have allowed a 1-4
> conference record to slip into the state
> tournament. I think Westfield, Chantilly and
> Centreville were better teams than Oakton.
> However, Oakton got the job done so what can you
> say.

Herndon/Robinson/Chantilly/Oakton - probably about the same as last year.
Centreville and Westfield -"down"

That being said, it's hard to argue the Concorde was "down" when it was an all Concorde final four in the NR. Perhaps the entire NR D6 is slipping a bit...


EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> Yeah, Oakton had a great playoff run. I thought
> that Bird might be flat after tough wins v. Hermy
> (Bird down 20-10 late) and Varina and having to
> travel. Instead, they did what Coach Bedwell's
> teams do: run, wear down and expect big plays. Do
> you think Concorde was "down" this year? I wonder,
> with C'Ville struggling vs. D5 teams like Mt.
> Vernon and Hayfield (OT) SB soundly beating 'Tilly
> and Robinson, and Westfield being a young team
> that maybe overachieved in going 12-0 until the
> final. When I say "down," I mean "down" for
> Concorde. Concorde remains from year-to-year the
> best district in the state.

Wow. Funny and sad all at once.

"Very dissapointing showing by Oakton. Concorde District should never have allowed a 1-4 conference record to slip into the state tournament. I think Westfield, Chantilly and Centreville were better teams than Oakton. However, Oakton got the job done so what can you say."

You are still a hater with a back handed compliment at the end. Oakton was better than Westfields, Centreville, Lake B and even Chantilly in 2012. Why? They got it done when it counted (in NR), end of discussion. Any more response is just plain bitterness. Time to let it be history.....

And Green Bay was better than the NY Giants last year, right? But there is this little thing called the playoffs, and this is why we play the game.

No. Just facts. I was at the game rooting for Oakton - were you?

You can't have it both ways - Oakton fans crowing all over the message boards on their spectacular run and as soon as they lose everyone needs to shut up and not talk about it anymore?


Still hating... Wrote:
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more response is just
> plain bitterness. Time to let it be history.....

wtf, facts? Fact is they went further than the teams you claimed better (see Giants post for further explanation of better, playoffs and meaning thereof). Yea at game rooting. And how am I having it both ways? I am still here posting the facts, you are not. You're defining troll, reply all you want...I am done with this forum, move on everyone.

u r 2 sensitive. I was hoping for an Oakton win and dissappointed with the game. However, i agree it seems pointless to discuss further.

Oakton fan, where was all your woofing when they lost 4 district games in a row? Were you on here saying, "wait till the playoffs?"a Yes an incredible run which they are to be commended for, but they got spanked badly by LCB, never was a game and it came to an end. They weren't as good as they played at the end and not as bad as they played in the middle.

As an Oakton fan I think we can be proud of what our team accomplished this year. Ranking 5th in our district, which let's be honest would be first or second in any other district in the state, and then going into the playoffs and defeating the top 3 seeded teams is quite an accomplishment. When it comes to the state level, Concorde fans should be routing for any team that we send into the playoffs as it only helps our district look more powerful. With the exception of Herndon, any Concorde team can beat the other on a given day. The Gauntlet is a correct term for it. I know many Oakton people who would have been routing for Westfield just the same if they were hosting the game. As far as comparison goes between the teams, Westfield did have the better record, but Oakton won the trophy. I am sure Westfield players/fans would say that they were the better on that given day. Overall doesn't matter when playoffs are concerned, just that one day. And if you are better on that day, then you get a chance to prove it again.

Now on to the game itself, LC Bird was faster, stronger, and way more athletic than Oakton. #22, #4 and #1 were studs and took the top off the defense and when #22 got to the outside there was no stopping him. Sorry, but this team would have beat any Concorde team we threw at them. I was so impressed that I am making the trip down to Charlottesville to see this great matchup between them and Ocean Lakes because I think LC Bird will take them. Even though I don't think it would have made a difference, Oakton was playing short handed the whole game was 1st team All-Region OT Chris Durant did not play (which means two starting offensive linemen were out for the Cougars), Andy Boone got hurt on a bad helmet to helmet hit in the second quarter, and because of this adjustments to different positions had to be made which made Oakton one dimensional, which tired them out because how many hits can Wandey and Downer take.

One thing I will say about LC Bird is that I wish they showed a little bit more of class because their studs did not come out until 2 minutes left in the game (bad chance of getting injured) and they were still trying to score even though they were up 41-17. Dirty pool which may come back to haunt them in the karma game. I do not put this on the kids, but on the coaching staff. In my mind it seemed like they had a chip on their shoulder against a team who didn't help put it there and they were trying to make a point.

Oakton got beat. Teams get beat. You can't take their run and region title away from them. The only team that had the players to keeps up with Bird would be c'ville, but they may be too young right now to win. The playoffs are what they are. They system will change next year, but Oakton would have made it in still and pulled Braddock in the first round too. You have to give the staff and players a lot of credit for doing what they did. They were able to shut down the top 3 teams in our area in the playoffs. Everyone would have rather seen them beat bird and bring a title back to the region to make everyone look good. The thing is this area just wasn't that good this year. Teams were down. There are limited D1 players on the rosters, so it makes it difficult to compete with the beach and Richmond where teams are loaded. Oakton only had 40 kids on their roster and that caught up with them in the state game when some players got hurt. I says congrats to Oakton. You shocked the world and deserve the title for your amazing run. Complain all you want, but those teams should have stepped up and crushed them in the playoffs if they were better. Don't give a team an opportunity. You let them hang around and they will beat you.

Anyone know who made first team all met?

Really....talent Wrote:
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> Oakton got beat. Teams get beat. You can't take
> their run and region title away from them. The
> only team that had the players to keeps up with
> Bird would be c'ville, but they may be too young
> right now to win. The playoffs are what they are.
> They system will change next year, but Oakton
> would have made it in still and pulled Braddock in
> the first round too. You have to give the staff
> and players a lot of credit for doing what they
> did. They were able to shut down the top 3 teams
> in our area in the playoffs. Everyone would have
> rather seen them beat bird and bring a title back
> to the region to make everyone look good. The
> thing is this area just wasn't that good this
> year. Teams were down. There are limited D1
> players on the rosters, so it makes it difficult
> to compete with the beach and Richmond where teams
> are loaded. Oakton only had 40 kids on their
> roster and that caught up with them in the state
> game when some players got hurt. I says congrats
> to Oakton. You shocked the world and deserve the
> title for your amazing run. Complain all you
> want, but those teams should have stepped up and
> crushed them in the playoffs if they were better.
> Don't give a team an opportunity. You let them
> hang around and they will beat you.


The only team that could keep up with Byrd is C'ville------not even close dude, not even close. Westfield maybe....because they actually scrimmaged them early on and did not get blown out at all....BUT Byrd'stud RB did not play, so that is a different story. Not this year, not Cville, no way.

Westfield needs to fire Jon Shields. He makes all his players feel like shit and is a bullybtowards his players. Its really annoying how Coach Rob Everett does all the work and Shields gets the credit. He is a hotheaded , short tempered low life.

Same poster from the 2013 thread. Your kid sucks. Shields is not coaching next year anyway. The fact that you stick up for Rob Everett says a lot about your character, he was run out of Lee for the same crap. Neither one was any good when it counted in the playoffs. Oakton kicked their ass

Both coaches KILL their players confidences by constantly reminding them how bad they are. It felt like there Defense played so they wont get chewed instead of actually wanting to win

Fairfax Will have a good season

Football is almost here! Cant wait ... New playoff system with the Northern Conference winner basically taking on the rest of the states best for the State Championship. My guess is that it will be Centreville representing the North against South's best.

Any thoughts on all the teams in the patriot district this season?

Lake Braddock will dominate the district, and slip up against the concorde.

West Springfield and TC Williams will compete, South County will recruit and cheat but still end up around .500. West Potomac will be massively undercoached as usual, and not use the great athletes they have. Annandale and Woodson will be awful (probably dishuns last season from the reports on this thread and the lack of success) and Lee will go 0-10....pretty much the way the district has been for at least the past decade.

It's been too long. Can someone please start another unflattering thread about the Hendersons?

lovesconcordefootball Wrote:
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> One statement I have not seen on the discussion
> about ER compared to NR. How do ER teams like
> Phoebus and OS stay as powerful, year after year,
> making states or Regional Finals? I may not fully
> understand the ER academic rules but if I
> understand even partially, the ER local students
> can pick schools in their area (surely based on
> academics) while Fairfax Counties are very strict.
> Had Westfield had Conner Coward, Manny Smith, Ken
> Ekanum and/or Chase Walter or Centreville had Mo
> Katz, Quentin Basil, Kendall Anderson, (and a
> healthy Ken Ekanum and Travis Whitney), the
> outcome would have been completely different. I
> have not even included if either could have added
> Chantilly players been to the mix......
>
> While I believe either Westfield or Centreville's
> chances of making the Northern Regional Finals
> this season are significantly less, but not
> impossible, compared to 2011, they are both
> gearing up for strong 2013 and 2014 seasons. I
> will say the Centreville's coaching staff Varsity
> to Freshman are phenomenal and know how to work
> with the players and build teams while a new
> Westfield's coaching staff turned a what seemed to
> be an underachieving 2010 team around in 2011.
> Compared to the coaching prior to Coach Haddock's
> hiring, kids left in droves in their Sophomore and
> Junior years. The retention rate for last years
> players and the size of the incoming freshman in
> C'Ville look to be very promising going forward.

EXACTLY. NR has wayyy more talent- its just spread. give cvilles
state finalist team Westfields #8 , #23 , Mo and the QB- Game would have been a joke. regional final was best game all year

of course it would...a bunch of chantilly white boys would have done fine against the oscar smith team that put 10 guys in division one schools...

Virginia Preps is down to their final 2 picks in the Virginia 6A football pre season top 10 and I think Centreville will be #2. Westfield was #5 and Lake Braddock was #6. With the new classification system the winner of the North Division will go straight to the State Championship. It should be a great season with a lot of great players from our area playing their Senior years before heading to play in College. I think Preps has it about right, I think these 3 teams will end up as the best from the North.

Virginia Preps has indeed just come out today and predicted Centreville as the #2 rated high school football team in the state for 2013 season. That will make Ocean Lakes from down south the almost certain #1 pick. Cannot wait for the season to start!!! Go Centreville Wildcats, would love another trip to UVA for state finals in December!!!

I would rate the Fairfax County top ten as:

Centreville
Westfield
Lake Braddock
Robinson
Yorktown
Chantilly
Oakton
Hayfield
Madison
Langley

Good list. Given a bit easier overall schedule and a strong QB in Henderson though, I suspect LBraddock might sneak ahead of Westfield into the #2 spot. However, I agree if all plays to form Centreville should be the tops in the North this year. All depends on player health, focus, coaching, etc.