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High School Football
Posted by: Jase ()
Date: July 08, 2012 10:16PM

who ready for football season, and who going to have a good season?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: novafan ()
Date: July 08, 2012 10:42PM

Look for Centreville, who boasts an all star coaching staff, chantilly, with a great defense, Westfield, with a massive talent pool, and robinson, hungry after a rare down year, to once again dominate the region.

Also, Braddock has a bunch of mercenary transfers led by their QB, who will beat up on the annually sad, sorry patriot district. They will then lose to a Concorde team in the playoffs (most likely one of the four listed above) and complain that the "weather was crappy".

Concorde District=Best football in VA.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: coach ()
Date: July 08, 2012 10:49PM

novafan, I think you hit the nail on the head, but a few other teams will definatly turn heads this season. Madison, West Springfield, Fairfax and Oakton will all field very tough, aggressive and well coached teams this fall.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FuckWHS ()
Date: July 09, 2012 12:20AM

No one gives a fuck about high school football. Especially Westfield High School football. That school's a fucking joke

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: not ()
Date: July 09, 2012 07:44AM

novafan Wrote:
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> Concorde District=Best football in VA.


Sorry, the best football in VA is in the 757.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: July 09, 2012 10:48AM

2000- Centreville 28 Deep Creek 26
2001- Robinson 40 Thomas Dale 7
2003- Westfield 35 Landstown 14
2005- Oakton DOMINATES Percy Harvin and Landstown 28-7
2007- Westfield 24 Oscar Smith 21 (state semis)
2008- Oakton narrowly loses to Oscar Smith 7-10
2009- Of course braddock screws it up, losing to Dale 21-35
2011- Centreville OR Westfield could have beaten anyone in the 757.

So a decade of dominance against the flashy 757 doesn't make the Concorde better?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: not ()
Date: July 09, 2012 12:43PM

Concorde Wrote:
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> 2000- Centreville 28 Deep Creek 26
> 2001- Robinson 40 Thomas Dale 7
> 2003- Westfield 35 Landstown 14
> 2005- Oakton DOMINATES Percy Harvin and Landstown
> 28-7
> 2007- Westfield 24 Oscar Smith 21 (state semis)
> 2008- Oakton narrowly loses to Oscar Smith 7-10
> 2009- Of course braddock screws it up, losing to
> Dale 21-35
> 2011- Centreville OR Westfield could have beaten
> anyone in the 757.
>
> So a decade of dominance against the flashy 757
> doesn't make the Concorde better?


No it doesn't since it's not a "decade of dominance". '00 and '01 were over a decade ago and C-ville or Westfield could not, and in fact did not beat anyone in the 757 in '11. Smith 47 C-ville 21 in case you've forgotten. Citing losses in '08 and '09 doesn't do much to bolster your dominance arguement either.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: 06 Champs ()
Date: July 09, 2012 01:02PM

Oakton HS.. 2006 State Champs. Keith Payne (UVA) holds Harvin to his first >100yrds a game that season, playing both ways. Great game and both great teams; Concorde came out on top.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WrongYear ()
Date: July 09, 2012 01:47PM

06 Champs Wrote:
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> Oakton HS.. 2006 State Champs. Keith Payne (UVA)
> holds Harvin to his first >100yrds a game that
> season, playing both ways. Great game and both
> great teams; Concorde came out on top.


Pretty sure that was in '05.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: July 09, 2012 01:49PM

Oakton HS 2006...hell yea! What a great team. Was a dream season.

and 2008-09 does bolster the argument because 1) LB isnt in the concorde, meaning they dont play the difficult competition week in and week out. and 2) Oscar Smiths 2008 "dream team" state title team could only muster up 10 points against Oakton with their Alabama Quarterback?

Nuff Said.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: but... ()
Date: July 09, 2012 01:56PM

Stop changing the subject!!
Fairfax still sucks

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: July 09, 2012 02:07PM

...Who changed the subject? What does Fairfax have to do with anything? they havent been in the Concorde since 06.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: matchup ()
Date: July 09, 2012 02:25PM

Go see how the Concorde does vs Patriot district teams this season. Ive coached quarterbacks for 2 schools in the concorde for 10 years and nobody is better prepared, or better in big games. Centreville plays Lake Braddock in week 1. They will see what the concorde is all about.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: 06 Champs ()
Date: July 09, 2012 02:29PM

@Wrong Year- doesn't make a difference, it was the 05-06 school year; our 06 Senior year. still the same outcome, still WON!.. dirtyyy. #Concordedistrict

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: faxfams ()
Date: July 09, 2012 04:27PM

Fairfax still will be 4th in their DIVISION 5 district and act like they accomplished something. Okay I'm exaggerating, they will finish 3rd... maybe.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Deku Shield ()
Date: July 09, 2012 07:44PM

The idea that Centreville/Westfield could beat the high end teams in the Eastern region is laughable. anyone who believes it hasn't done enough homework to make such a silly claim.

Look how many recruits come out of the Eastern Region compared to the northern region. its not even close.

On the bright side, Fairfax just bought a new sled. not a blocking sled, an actual sled for snow related activities.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: back at deku shield ()
Date: July 09, 2012 08:48PM

Okay, the Eastern Region has more top athletic recruits, I've give you that.

They also have more arrests, more out of wedlock births, lower test scores, and for every Percy Harvin and Michael Vick that makes millions in the NFL, you have dozens of NFL wannabees that can't even get into a four year college, let alone make a living playing football. Seriously, only an idiot would want his kid to grow up in the Eastern Region as opposed to the Northern Region. Face it, the economic circumstances of your average Eastern Region football player are more akin to the antebellum South than they are to the kids in the Northern Region.

You call having more Division I recruits progress? Please. . .

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Din's Fire ()
Date: July 09, 2012 11:48PM

Ha the northern region has few guys go Div I and even those few have a high rate of screwing up.

The Robinson LB failing drug test at VT 2 yrs ago.
The Robinson RB leaving FB threats and getting kicked out of WF.
The Robinson RB Roid Raging and having to be covered up by Notre Dame.
The Springfield RB getting a girl pregnant in the 90's.
The LB kids getting in baseball bat fights and never making it to college.
The Oakton RB who was in and out of UVA never living up to his potential and cruising on one good game against Percy Harvin.
The Annandale WR who couldn't spell football.

The northern region isn't exactly batting .1000

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: so. ()
Date: July 10, 2012 03:17AM

Eddie Royal
Evan Royster

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: touche' ()
Date: July 10, 2012 08:15AM

This Eastern Region vs Northern Region debate has gotten more leg than the East Coast - West Coast Rap battle.

Look, the state has good football, the speed comes from the beach, cannot be disputed and in Nova you get a mix of size, etc. I don't think the numbers can be compared as it is clear that the 757 holds it down with the attraction of speedsters.

But to start going in on who has the most issues once they get to, if they get in college is going way too far. Its a black eye for the state, not just the region he comes from. Each region has their issues.

And FYI - the LB kids that got into the brawl, none were D-1 type players, the WS kids brought the bats, and the main kid involed was not going to college anyway, parents are loaded and was headed into the family business. While not squeaky clean, sure is a lot of digs on LB on this site. I've seen them play both games and 7 on 7s, seems to me that they have average athletes, but get the most out of them. The Annandale kid was a D-1 type kid, but did not have the right people in his corner. Adams didn't help the situation at all either. Someone had to know that he has issues. Just saying.

Question for people in the Eastern Region - Do the schools that do well, O-Smith, Pheobus etc receive the same type of hate that some schools up here in the North get when they do well? Or do you guys pull together as a region?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NOVA ()
Date: July 10, 2012 09:26AM

@so. +1

Eddie Royal
Evan Royster
Cody Grimm

..all pretty recent.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: meh ()
Date: July 10, 2012 09:42AM

You guys fucking pedos or something?


"Here I am 45 year old single male... mmmm look at those tasty sweaty high school football players. "

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: so +1? ()
Date: July 10, 2012 03:20PM

Percy Harvin
Deangelo Hall
Mike Vick
Plaxico Burress
Antione Bathea
Dre Bly
Aaron Brooks
Elton Brown
Ronald Curry
Terry Kirby
Kwamie Lassiter
Jerod Mayo
Phillip Merling
Chris Slade
Al Toon
Xavier Adibi
James Anderson
Ras-I Dowling
Marques Hagans
David Macklin
Darryl Tapp
Lawrence Taylor
Mike Tomlin

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: July 10, 2012 10:16PM

People in the ER know about and have much respect for programs such as W'field and C'Ville. Having seen the NR teams play up here now, I can see why.

ER has won 4 straight D5s and 2 of the last 4 D6s, but NR from top to bottom is just as tough. The way I see it, each year NR has 2-3 teams that could win states. I used to think it was diff in D5 because of Phoebus, it's nat'l rankings and teams like Hampton when they go on streaks. However, I was at UVA last year and saw Phoebus' O struggle vs. SoCo until the 2nd half. It ended 20-10 but the diff was just 2 long pass plays. So even in D5 it's not just SB up here that can put together a tough team. In D6, you'd have to be crazy to argue that W'field, C'Ville, and a number of other NR programs can't win states. LB still doesn't have the ring, but people in ER know them and respect the program.

To the people who knock ER on academics, income, and misery indexes, all I can say is that you should live there first before you talk trash. Some of us came from nothing, played D1, served as military officers, and appreciate both regions. NR has a lot of advantages but there's temptation in every region that the players need to manage. I just like seeing good football and could care less which region does it. Even Richmond area has tough FB.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: bdogs2012 ()
Date: July 13, 2012 09:43AM

Westfield will rock again in 2012

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NovaFan1 ()
Date: July 13, 2012 07:15PM

The team with the best QB will win. Who is the best QB in the Concorde?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde Ballers ()
Date: July 13, 2012 10:28PM

The best QB in the Concorde is yet to be determined. Most of the starters this year will be first time starters. Below are the starters I know of.

Oakton: Kyle Downer SR has an offer from JMU. Would probably be pre season choice for 1st team All District

Westfield: Chris Mullins SR. Great Athlete played football & basketball last year. Injury cost him chance to battle for starting job last year

Centreville: Scott Walter JR started JV and was backup Varsity QB last year. Another good athlete playing football and baseball. Older brothers were studs for Wildcats

Chantilly: Sonny Romine SR. Started last year and is another good athlete. Play last year was spotty.

Robinson: not sure? Rams started a Sophomore early then replaced him through the season. Alot will depend on what offense Taylor decides on

Herndon: not sure? Brian Day is a good QB coach so whomever he settles on will be a good one.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde Grapes ()
Date: July 14, 2012 02:55AM

Are you going to do all positions? I request CENTER next!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The man ()
Date: July 14, 2012 07:56AM

The Herndon QB is Ky Parrott. Good athlete. Big baseball prospect. Their program blows and Day will soon find out they won't win in the Concorde.

Chantilly's QB situation is interesting. Many believe that junior Tommy Vance is better than Sonny Romine. Every time I see Romine, he's put more and more beer weight on. getting fatter and fatter

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NovaFan1 ()
Date: July 14, 2012 10:29AM

I didnt realize Downer was that good to warrent an offer to JMU. Westfield and Centreville have lost a lot of talent and their QB's will have to be on their game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: July 14, 2012 11:38AM

The man Wrote:
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> The Herndon QB is Ky Parrott. Good athlete. Big
> baseball prospect. Their program blows and Day
> will soon find out they won't win in the Concorde.
>
>
> Chantilly's QB situation is interesting. Many
> believe that junior Tommy Vance is better than
> Sonny Romine. Every time I see Romine, he's put
> more and more beer weight on. getting fatter and
> fatter

Please, not one person thinks Tommy should start over Romine. Both are below average qb's but Romine has experience and is a third year varsity player.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NovaFan1 ()
Date: July 14, 2012 04:21PM

Romine seems like kind of a punk

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Dude11 ()
Date: July 14, 2012 06:06PM

Downer also has The starting backfield returning from last year, as well as an experienced offensive line. Oakton should put up points.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: chantilly football ()
Date: July 14, 2012 10:58PM

hate on my nigga sonny romine all you want. we taking the district this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Chantilly BABY!! ()
Date: July 14, 2012 11:01PM

Dude11 Wrote:
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> Downer also has The starting backfield returning
> from last year, as well as an experienced
> offensive line. Oakton should put up points.


who gives a fuck who Downer has. Chantilly's D was picking him off like crazy at the 7 on 7 tourney at Westfield and might I add that Chantilly won.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Don't Deny ()
Date: July 15, 2012 01:12AM

Most people in the know says Mullins will lead Westfield to another Concorde title.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: johnhenrey ()
Date: July 15, 2012 03:01PM

Did any of the West Potomac coaching staff that was under Henderson stay with the new head coach?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: johnhenrys ()
Date: July 15, 2012 03:25PM

I think the entire defensive staff went to LEE and the offensive staff scattered or is out of jobs.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wpfan11 ()
Date: July 15, 2012 04:51PM

The offensive staff werent very creative, they used a system they bought online play for play.With the athletes they have at WP, they should be contending every year for the region.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: calling bs ()
Date: July 15, 2012 06:13PM

Chantilly BABY!! Wrote:
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> Dude11 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Downer also has The starting backfield
> returning
> > from last year, as well as an experienced
> > offensive line. Oakton should put up points.
>
>
> who gives a fuck who Downer has. Chantilly's D was
> picking him off like crazy at the 7 on 7 tourney
> at Westfield and might I add that Chantilly won.


I was there and Downer did not throw any picks and everyone involved knows that the game ended in a very controversial way

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Will Deny ()
Date: July 15, 2012 06:14PM

Don't Deny Wrote:
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> Most people in the know says Mullins will lead
> Westfield to another Concorde title.


If anything Westfields offensive line will win them the title. Defense will struggle and give up lost of points

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Wildcat Fan ()
Date: July 15, 2012 08:33PM

Sad to say, C-Ville will not even be half of what they were last year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeRox ()
Date: July 16, 2012 07:07AM

Half of Centreville and Half of Westfield is better than most. THey both seem to have good QB's so they will be right there.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: skultula ()
Date: July 16, 2012 10:35AM

I think wpfan11 got WPs offensive staff confused with Lee, TC, Ann, Madison, Fairfax, Braddock, Hayfield, Woodson, West Springfield, South County, Centreville, Chantilly, Robinson, Herndon, Marshall, Edison, Wakefield, Stuart, Mount Vernon and Mclean.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wpfan11 ()
Date: July 16, 2012 01:09PM

True, now that WP ditched those losers they can put in a ball control midline option offense and blow the doors open!

Instead of the over 400 yards of offense and 34 points verse westfield's number one defense watch for WP to maybe double that in the first half alone. The are going to develop super creative plays only "athletes" can run and since westfield has only "non-athletes" people will start buying the new WP system in an ironic twist!

prediction
WP 84 Westfield 9

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeRox ()
Date: July 17, 2012 07:27AM

Westfield...non athletes? Is that how you go 12-1 and dominate all of your competition?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concordeparent ()
Date: July 17, 2012 08:42AM

HA non athletes...Westfield will dominate Westpo anytime, any day. Westfield is the number 1 team in the NR (Centreville #2 and Chantilly #3...no disrespect) and a top 5 team in Virginia.

One serious question for the coaches that scower these threads: As a parent who has put two kids through the program at westfield, I have noticed that during the verbanic era, he played 7-9 guys one way, with several star players going both ways. Coach Simmons now will play 11 guys one way exclusively. So there are now 22 individual starters, just like a college team.

Which approach is better for high school? Again, as a parent, I dont know the ins and outs of organizing a team, and was wondering which approach will win the most games/championships in high school.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: BDogFan1 ()
Date: July 17, 2012 11:28AM

I dont think Westfield has the talent depth this year to risk two way players. They definately have kids on both sides of the ball that can help. I think the injury risk is too high. I think its a good approach when you can risk injury and mory easily replace.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: CougCoach ()
Date: July 17, 2012 11:31AM

Concordeparent Wrote:
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> HA non athletes...Westfield will dominate Westpo
> anytime, any day. Westfield is the number 1 team
> in the NR (Centreville #2 and Chantilly #3...no
> disrespect) and a top 5 team in Virginia.
>
> One serious question for the coaches that scower
> these threads: As a parent who has put two kids
> through the program at westfield, I have noticed
> that during the verbanic era, he played 7-9 guys
> one way, with several star players going both
> ways. Coach Simmons now will play 11 guys one way
> exclusively. So there are now 22 individual
> starters, just like a college team.
>
> Which approach is better for high school? Again,
> as a parent, I dont know the ins and outs of
> organizing a team, and was wondering which
> approach will win the most games/championships in
> high school.


Not sure about your lists for Top 10.... but wanted to answer your question concerning approaches to 2 way players.

2 way players are a standard for most HS programs. Some schools are lucky enough to have the numbers and talent to have 2 full squads of 1 way players. Even those schools will play certain skill kids at positions that allow them to help the team. Westfield in the past has had the numbers and talent to play 2 full squads, I think that may be different this year as we see the talent falling off at Westfield. I think you may see more 2 way players than you have ever at Westfield this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Goron ()
Date: July 17, 2012 01:01PM

I heard Centreville is only going to carry 11 players on the roster to make some kind of old school iron man football point!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: concordeparent ()
Date: July 17, 2012 02:01PM

Thanks for the input everyone. If Westfield will carry a bunch of 2 way players, they are forced to win on that talent and good coaching?

Do you guys think Westfields offense/defense is capable of winning a championship? Over the past 2 years, just as a dad sitting in the stands, ive seen perhaps the best defense in the region, but an offense that can be stagnant, inefficient, as well as not putting the ball in the best players hands.

Looking at the oakton offense, they get alot of different players involved.

Centreville runs an extremely smooth offense that makes players overachieve.

Do the bulldogs need a little overhaul? thanks for all the input!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wildcatcoach ()
Date: July 17, 2012 02:09PM

First of all, @Goron: We play the best 11 at Centreville. We played the best 11 at fairfax. It worked then and it works now. We won the region. So your little sarcastic point is irrelevant. maybe your team should try some old school stuff sometime.

second, thanks for the compliment @concordeparent. weve worked really hard to develop our offense at centreville and I personally believe the wing t, along with adding a pro style passing game is the best fit for high school kids.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Rams2012 ()
Date: July 17, 2012 03:45PM

I think Westfield has some personnel at key positions on offense that will show some different looks than in past years. I expect some changes

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeRox ()
Date: July 17, 2012 05:10PM

I think the Concorde is going to be extremely competitive this year, no one is that much better than the other....Herndon aside....but with Coach Day there, it is only a matter of time before they are another tough game on the schedule.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Reality ()
Date: July 19, 2012 11:50AM

This has become the defacto High School football forum on FU! Better posters and good info, I hope we can keep it up!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: va preps? ()
Date: July 19, 2012 12:18PM

I think we can all agree Westfield will have a good team but in the latest VA preps rankings they were ranked 3 in the state. Braddock was 10. And teams thought to be contending for the district over Westfield, Chantilly and Oakton, were not included. In the post it does say that they could be ranked high do to past success. I feel it is a very lofty ranking that will be nearly impossible for them to live up to. Thoughts?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: who is vapreps? ()
Date: July 19, 2012 06:48PM

I would not put much stock in VaPreps. It's a website. It's not like they've sent armies of journalists/scouts to each school to evaluate the talent. I doubt their methodology is all that rigorous. Frankly, I would not want my team to be ranked pre-season as all it does is put a big target on your back.

As for WF being ranked 3rd after graduating 40 seniors. . . .that's a stretch - which the author kinda admits in his piece about WF.

What matters (obviously) are the actual games, not what any of us say in July.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Nova Football ()
Date: July 20, 2012 01:30AM

top ten list for northern region d6?

1 centerville
2 lake braddock
3 westfield
4 chantilly
5 Robinson
6 West Springfield
7 T.C. Williams
8 Oakton
9 West Pot
10 Edison

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeRox ()
Date: July 20, 2012 07:12AM

Centreville #1...I dont think so.. Give it to LB.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeSwag ()
Date: July 20, 2012 07:20PM

Cville should be behind Robinson

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wildcatcoach ()
Date: July 21, 2012 01:14PM

why is everyone anointing Braddock to be better then Centreville already? We beat them twice last season, they got a flashy "D1" QB (we will see, his technique and decision making are very questionable) well, we beat him too.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: July 21, 2012 03:46PM

Nova Football Wrote:
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> top ten list for northern region d6?
>
> 1 centerville
> 2 lake braddock
> 3 westfield
> 4 chantilly
> 5 Robinson
> 6 West Springfield
> 7 T.C. Williams
> 8 Oakton
> 9 West Pot
> 10 Edison

Edison is D-5

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: July 21, 2012 09:38PM

wildcatcoach Wrote:
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> why is everyone anointing Braddock to be better
> then Centreville already? We beat them twice last
> season, they got a flashy "D1" QB (we will see,
> his technique and decision making are very
> questionable) well, we beat him too.

People in ER have a lot of respect for teams from NR, esp. for Centreville and Westfield. LB was tough a few years ago, but even those teams didn't title. Lately, LB has struggled vs. top teams in NR. That's no shame, since you have 2-3 teams every year that can win states. It would take a big turnaround for LB to win NR. Even if they do, teams like Salem will be waiting. Last year, Salem took O. Smith to the wire in a 35-34 loss in ER final when Smith stopped a two-point conversion. Salem's QB, Bucky Hodges (6'6, 220, Tech-bound) returns and is why people in ER don't bow to LB's QB just yet.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: July 21, 2012 10:08PM

Saw Kenton (Ohio) beat Friendship for the title at Coolidge today. It was the third time they played in the tournament and all three were close. Was hoping to see LB but they got elimined earlier. Yorktown was still playing late but got nipped by Paint Branch. Can't wait for real FB to start.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: justsayindoe ()
Date: July 21, 2012 11:16PM

WOW! cville had 2 good seasons because they had starters who played varsity since freshman year. their run is over. that was a dream team. they will go back to being 3rd or 4th in the divison.. who do they have besides Martey?!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wildcatcoach ()
Date: July 22, 2012 10:37AM

So are we forgetting about the early 2000s and Centrevilles state championship? People on here are ridiculous sometimes...the school is big enough that playmakers will emerge.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: dondongo ()
Date: July 22, 2012 12:00PM

Exactly! The LB QB is such a flop that Michigan made him their top QB prospect as a ploy to fool the other big time schools into recruiting him! I knew Cville was ahead of the curve..they must have figured this out before anyone!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WHS2011 ()
Date: July 22, 2012 12:32PM

I have one qualm with the top ten list. How is Lake Braddock supposed to be ranked at the top? I get that they had a lot of kids transfer out there, however these kids have never played together so what makes you assume that they are going to get out of camp? I'd pick any team that has been together for two maybe even three years any day over a team of as was previously said "mercenaries". And since I can't help myself, LET'S GO WESTFIELD!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Denny Green ()
Date: July 22, 2012 01:54PM

Its funny how no one in the LB camp is "Crowning" them as the representative from the NR. All that hype is coming from outsiders (other schools, VA Preps, people posting on FUG) that figure that since Henderson transfered. (BTW everyone keeps talking about ALL the transferes, it was two, the two Henderson brothers, people talking like there was six or seven kids that came over) LB still lost some seniors that were key in the success that they had last year. 7-5 isn't bad considering their schedule. The only let down was the loss to Robinson, which is their biggest rival, and they took them lightly, Robinson made them pay. The other losses were to teams that found their way to the regional finals and two of them to the final game of the year.

This group on the skill side will have its work cut out for them. From what I have seen, the QB needs a lot of work, sure he put up numbers last year with much better athletes at WP. Right now he is not on the same page with the crew he's got this year. In fact, at times, I've seen the back up look better. I don't know if it was the rain yesterday (which is no excuse) but balls were sailing over receivers heads way too often with guys open. After going 4-0 in pool play and scoring the most points on day one, they at times looked like a JV team as bracket play began. There appears to be some wholes in the defense also.

Lets all be realistic here, while this is just 7 on 7, LB uses it as practice, as all teams do, but they have some work to do before Cville week one and Westfield week three. With adding the QB, preps and people on here have assumed that they were going to instantly be better, but no games are won on a message board. No one in the LB program is Crowning themselves as the champs in the region. They will make a run at it each week, just like the other teams in the region. Right now Cville whether losing guys or not have to be favorites to defend, and Westfield always has a solid program that will have them in contention. Those two have to be favorites and there is some talk with Oakton also, their QB can play also.

Its going to be an interesting year, and the guy above is right, whoever comes out of the region will have Salem or O. Smith making the trip up to take them on.

A lot of hate for the Purple and Gold!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: July 22, 2012 04:06PM

Yes, the point I'm trying to make is that NR has 2-3 teams every year that could win it all. C'Ville, Robinson, LB and W'field won states or made serious runs since 2000. So ER players, coaches and fans know that whoever comes out of NR will be tough. Last year, O. Smith's senior-laden team was well aware of C'Ville's D. That's why they ran so many backside screens. If C'Ville's D star had not gotten hurt in Q1, we'd have seen a diff game.

All I'm saying is that NR bring it every year. Same for the D5 game last year. SoCo shutdown Phoebus' run and was 10-10 in Q3 but Deloach came up with a few clutch catches just like he did in 2010.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: oucharoo ()
Date: July 22, 2012 04:48PM

Now Lake Braddock's own 7-7 coaches are getting on here talking trash on their own QB. I have a feeling this doesn't go on at Westfield and Centreville.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The Major ()
Date: July 22, 2012 06:27PM

Please don't forget about Mount Vernon football, and master coach Barry Wells.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: hostileprophet ()
Date: July 23, 2012 04:36AM

The best coach at Centreville is Brian Shearer the Head Freshman coach.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cvillebacker ()
Date: July 23, 2012 11:19AM

justsayindoe Wrote:
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> WOW! cville had 2 good seasons because they had
> starters who played varsity since freshman year.
> their run is over. that was a dream team. they
> will go back to being 3rd or 4th in the divison..
> who do they have besides Martey?!


Centreville had an awesome set of Seniors that led the re-emergence of the Centreville football program. Headed by Coach Haddock and his talented staff Centreville will continue to compete and WIN in the toughest district in the state.

Centreville has had 2 back to back undefeated and Concorde District Champion Freshman teams in the last 2 years. If you do not think that means anything than you do not know High School football. Players from these teams are now taking their spots on the Varsity squad. Sophmores and Juniors will be counted on to start and play well.

You mention Christian Martey, who everyone will know this year at Running Back. The offensive line returns a majority of the Starters from last year including Josh Smith, Brendan Willis, Joey Steinbach and Antonio Choi. Skill players will include Chase Heiner, AJ Turner (another future superstar running back only a Sophomore) David Newell, Charles Tutt, Ryan Vieregger, Andre Blaski and Andrew Kurowski. Jimmy Nicholas and David Liddle will be TE. QB will be Scott Walter.

Defensively the Wildcats have fewer returning starters but some studs from the younger teams. Connor Howell is a returning starter on the D Line. Alot of the O line will spend some time on the D line. Greg Austin, Gus Simpao, Tyler Love, Logan Wakfield will be LBs. Kris Watson, Kyle Cannon and other Offensive skill guys will play in the D backfield. All in all Cville will be a much different team at the end of the year than the beginning of the year, as the younger players learn the speed and intensity of Varsity play.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: July 23, 2012 06:50PM

Cvillebacker Wrote:
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> justsayindoe Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WOW! cville had 2 good seasons because they had
> > starters who played varsity since freshman
> year.
> > their run is over. that was a dream team. they
> > will go back to being 3rd or 4th in the
> divison..
> > who do they have besides Martey?!
>
>
> Centreville had an awesome set of Seniors that led
> the re-emergence of the Centreville football
> program. Headed by Coach Haddock and his talented
> staff Centreville will continue to compete and WIN
> in the toughest district in the state.
>
> Centreville has had 2 back to back undefeated and
> Concorde District Champion Freshman teams in the
> last 2 years. If you do not think that means
> anything than you do not know High School
> football. Players from these teams are now taking
> their spots on the Varsity squad. Sophmores and
> Juniors will be counted on to start and play well.
>
>
> You mention Christian Martey, who everyone will
> know this year at Running Back. The offensive
> line returns a majority of the Starters from last
> year including Josh Smith, Brendan Willis, Joey
> Steinbach and Antonio Choi. Skill players will
> include Chase Heiner, AJ Turner (another future
> superstar running back only a Sophomore) David
> Newell, Charles Tutt, Ryan Vieregger, Andre Blaski
> and Andrew Kurowski. Jimmy Nicholas and David
> Liddle will be TE. QB will be Scott Walter.
>
> Defensively the Wildcats have fewer returning
> starters but some studs from the younger teams.
> Connor Howell is a returning starter on the D
> Line. Alot of the O line will spend some time on
> the D line. Greg Austin, Gus Simpao, Tyler Love,
> Logan Wakfield will be LBs. Kris Watson, Kyle
> Cannon and other Offensive skill guys will play in
> the D backfield. All in all Cville will be a much
> different team at the end of the year than the
> beginning of the year, as the younger players
> learn the speed and intensity of Varsity play.


Chantilly, Westfield, and Oakton WILL run all over the wildcats, no question.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: northern region follower ()
Date: July 23, 2012 07:02PM

I know a few teams from the NR played in a 7on7 tourney this past weekend. Now, I know 7on7 doesn't mean a whole lot, but I am curious. I know Westfield doesn't have a whole lot coming back, LB has a great qb along with a few other returning starters, and Oakton has a pretty good qb of their own... were there any other notable players on any of these teams?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: 7on ()
Date: July 24, 2012 12:20PM

I am an Oakton parent so I mostly saw Oakton's games but was able to catch a few others as well. Oakton did the best out of all local teams. I discount Yorktown because the way they play 7 on 7 does not in any way reflect their actual offense in any way.
Going into day 2 Braddock was the number 1 overall seed before dropping 2 games eventually losing to St. Francis. People should back off on their high expectations of braddock, because I did not see alot out of Henderson. Their receiver a sophomore, put on an amazing performance in the Lake Braddock, Oakton game on the first day.

Westfield struggled all week and failed to score from the 1 yard line on 8 consecutive plays (were given first down after pass interference on 4th). Westfield lost to Lee high school, in the very next game Oakton beat Lee 33-1.

Woodbridge put up a good run until they were bounced by Oakton late in the tournament something like 23-3. Their cornerback Everett, committed to Duke, is one hell of a ball player and their defensive end looks like a 24 year old man.

Oakton had a terrific Saturday before losing to a talented team. with 10 seconds to go Downer rolled out right before throwing a 50 yard bomb on a line back to Boone to put themselves down by one before missing the extra point.Oakton did well for missing two offensive and three defensive starters. Kyle wowed me at this tournament with his arm strength and vision. The team does not have loads of athleticism but got the job done.

I do not believe 7 on 7 directly translates to real football. Though I do think you can spot talented players and get an idea of how a team could preform. I got an idea of the team chemistry and think that Braddock is lacking it. After every bad play they would yell at each other or with coaches

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wildest cat ()
Date: July 24, 2012 01:45PM

If LB is as bad as you say and Oakton lost to them then maybe this is going to be Centreville's year once again!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wake up ()
Date: July 24, 2012 03:18PM

If one more person comes on here talking about how great there 7 on 7 team is. Oakton should be a good team, not because they can play 7 on 7 or not but because they have good lineman, a good rb, a good qb, and a couple descent receivers and db's. Yorktown has a very good rb but still play in a week district and can not beat stonebridge this year(SOCO last yr) when they make it to post season which they will. 7 on 7 is not real football.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: July 24, 2012 07:27PM

wake up Wrote:
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> If one more person comes on here talking about how
> great there 7 on 7 team is. Oakton should be a
> good team, not because they can play 7 on 7 or not
> but because they have good lineman, a good rb, a
> good qb, and a couple descent receivers and db's.
> Yorktown has a very good rb but still play in a
> week district and can not beat stonebridge this
> year(SOCO last yr) when they make it to post
> season which they will. 7 on 7 is not real
> football.

WAKE UP: Agreed that PL is not real FB, but Yorktown is ok for a local D5. Over 2 years, they're 21-3, losing to state finalists SoCo (D5) and C'Ville (D6) and rival WL. SoCo beat SB and gave Phoebus a good game at UVA. SB is always tough and has 2 on ESPN's top 100. Who knows if any D5 will beat them? Yorktown's sched hurts, but a few teams on it were ok. Hayfield shutout SoCo and McLean made playoffs from SBs district -- but both lost to Yorktown. Phoebus rules D5 with 4 straight titles but maybe SB takes it back this year.

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Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: July 24, 2012 09:13PM

7on Wrote:
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> I am an Oakton parent so I mostly saw Oakton's
> games but was able to catch a few others as well.
> Oakton did the best out of all local teams. I
> discount Yorktown because the way they play 7 on 7
> does not in any way reflect their actual offense
> in any way.

At Coolidge, the best local team was Friendship, which came within 1 play of beating Kenton (OH) in the final. Oakton looked good, but don't know how you can write that they did the best of the local teams. They went 1-2-1 on day 1, didn't make the semis on day 2. Not sure who the best VA team was, but Yorktown beat Oakton and previously unbeaten McDonough and was playing late in the quarterfinals. PL is not FB, for sure.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: July 24, 2012 10:53PM

I know it's only 7 on 7, but Kenton winning this tournament certainly says something about football in Ohio. Kenton is less than half the size of the smallest FCPS high school and yet they travel out to Maryland and walk out with the championship.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: 7onwhat? ()
Date: July 24, 2012 11:03PM

"Westfield struggled all week and failed to score from the 1 yard line on 8 consecutive plays (were given first down after pass interference on 4th). Westfield lost to Lee high school, in the very next game Oakton beat Lee 33-1."

Westfield and any other team will run it down your throat from the one yard line and not to try to pass in a congested space to score. This is why 7on7 is no indication of anything.....

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: July 25, 2012 08:49AM

Totally agree about Kenton. They went 14-1 last year, losing in the D4 title game. Last year's QB (now at Missouri) passed for over 17,000 yards in his career, breaking his older brother's nat'l record. Kenton has a storied tradition of passing, but also brought a stingy D to Coolidge.

Link to last year's 14-1 team:
http://espn.go.com/blog/high-school/football/tag/_/name/kenton-ohio

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Joe B. ()
Date: July 25, 2012 11:35AM

"Man, I qidh I could go back in time." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxN9Mw6iQUs

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: July 25, 2012 12:27PM

wake up Wrote:
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> If one more person comes on here talking about how
> great there 7 on 7 team is. Oakton should be a
> good team, not because they can play 7 on 7 or not
> but because they have good lineman, a good rb, a
> good qb, and a couple descent receivers and db's.
> Yorktown has a very good rb but still play in a
> week district and can not beat stonebridge this
> year(SOCO last yr) when they make it to post
> season which they will. 7 on 7 is not real
> football.

Wake Up: Yeah, passing league isn't FB, but don't talk about weak scheds and leave out SB. SB had 10 wins last year, 8 vs. Langley (twice,), Madison, S. Lakes, TJ, Madison, McLean, and FFX. SB had 1 quality win, coming back early in the year from 24-0 to beat Broad Run in OT. SB is a great program, but their district is like Yorktown's. You have a few tough games, but the district sched is pretty easy. As for SoCo, their D was awesome at year-end and they kept Phoebus in check most of the time at UVA. Lots of seniors on that team so let's see what happens this year. In d5, it could be that the Peninsula District's sched (hampton, phoebus, etc.) gets those teams ready for post-season like the D6 NR does up here.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: BMD ()
Date: July 25, 2012 04:04PM

I'd leave Robinson out of any of these conversations. When Mark Bendorf left and Robinson was forced to hire Trey Taylor (best of only 5 applicants - according to the principal), Robinson started on a steady descent and hasn't hit rock bottom yet. Pulling from the largest student body in the state, Taylor ran a slow paced offense and stumbled into a playoff slot, despite a 5-6 record. He systematically ignored parent concerns regarding safety and blamed shortcomings on his assistant coaches. A number of families left taking with them some of the best rising juniors in the area. If Taylor still has a job after the 2012 season, it will be a miracle.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: VT1984 ()
Date: July 25, 2012 05:02PM

northern region follower Wrote:
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> I know a few teams from the NR played in a 7on7
> tourney this past weekend. Now, I know 7on7
> doesn't mean a whole lot, but I am curious. I
> know Westfield doesn't have a whole lot coming
> back, LB has a great qb along with a few other
> returning starters, and Oakton has a pretty good
> qb of their own... were there any other notable
> players on any of these teams?


From LB- QB (Henderson, multiple offers) was very good, reciever (i believe he's a rising soph) is a beast. Also had a pretty good LB (Hoskins) and another safety that looked pretty solid.

From Oakton- QB (Downer) was also very good, They had a very quick reciever (Boone) that also played DB. A couple of decent WRs as well.

From WHS- QB (Mullins) not as good as first two named, but still very very solid. Had 1 pretty good WR and I believe they were short on RBs and WRs. Also very good secondary.


Again, 7on7 means virtually nothing and likely has no indication on how these teams will be come August, but it looks as if the Northern Region is certainly up for grabs this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: cvillebacker ()
Date: July 26, 2012 05:40PM

Centreville Field FINALLY being dug up for Turf to be put in. Hopefully in time for the Centreville vs. Lake Braddock game on 8/31/12. Should be a good one, first look at the Lake Braddock Mercenaries vs. The Wildcats.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: oscarsmith ()
Date: July 26, 2012 07:12PM

I didn't know Romine was black?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: lovesconcordefootball ()
Date: July 26, 2012 11:52PM

One statement I have not seen on the discussion about ER compared to NR. How do ER teams like Phoebus and OS stay as powerful, year after year, making states or Regional Finals? I may not fully understand the ER academic rules but if I understand even partially, the ER local students can pick schools in their area (surely based on academics) while Fairfax Counties are very strict. Had Westfield had Conner Coward, Manny Smith, Ken Ekanum and/or Chase Walter or Centreville had Mo Katz, Quentin Basil, Kendall Anderson, (and a healthy Ken Ekanum and Travis Whitney), the outcome would have been completely different. I have not even included if either could have added Chantilly players been to the mix......

While I believe either Westfield or Centreville's chances of making the Northern Regional Finals this season are significantly less, but not impossible, compared to 2011, they are both gearing up for strong 2013 and 2014 seasons. I will say the Centreville's coaching staff Varsity to Freshman are phenomenal and know how to work with the players and build teams while a new Westfield's coaching staff turned a what seemed to be an underachieving 2010 team around in 2011. Compared to the coaching prior to Coach Haddock's hiring, kids left in droves in their Sophomore and Junior years. The retention rate for last years players and the size of the incoming freshman in C'Ville look to be very promising going forward.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: 7on7 observer ()
Date: July 27, 2012 12:41PM

Yes, PL's are not real football. But it allows teams to gain their respect in the passing game. Westfield looked good except for the friendship game. Yorktown impressed with a lot of wins. Oakton went 1-2-1 on the first day but both of their losses were by one point. Oakton qb looked good towards the end after a shaky start. Oaktons loss to LB grabbed a lot of people's attention because oakton was not supposed to have a chance. The LB reciever had 2 great touchdowns grabs but the fly route was the only route that he had a catch on all game. Oakton scored with ease with their offensive depth. Oakton had a big TE who was very good along with a shorter WR. They also had 2 good runnin backs that contributed along with 2 quick DB's used in the slot.

I would have loved to have seen the cougars take on the mighty bulldogs but I guess we will have to wait until the season.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WCAC ()
Date: July 27, 2012 01:12PM

All about the WCAC

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: vinny ()
Date: July 27, 2012 03:52PM

First, the WCAC is a semi-pro league. Comparing that conf to the NR public schools is apples to oranges.

As for the NR generally, under the theory that no team can throw the ball 45 times a game, which teams are returning dominant running attacks? Especially in the Concorde, the ability to pound the defense with a smash mouth running attack will be important in the late October/early November games. Two great RBs graduated this year in Manny Smith of Centerville and Kendall Anderson of Westfield. Which teams return strong running attacks?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: oscarsmith ()
Date: July 27, 2012 03:58PM

All star coaching staff that we ran/passed all over. Please, passing game? You guys up there are so far behing the times you think it's still the 1970's
even Delaware got rid of the wing T!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: oscarsmith ()
Date: July 27, 2012 04:02PM

Re: High School Football

Posted by: chantilly football ()

Date: July 14, 2012 10:58PM


hate on my nigga sonny romine all you want. we taking the district this year
I still didn't know Romine was Black?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: to oscar smith ()
Date: July 27, 2012 04:14PM

We may be behind the times, but at least we can speak and write in English. How's plantation life treating you?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: lookingback ()
Date: July 27, 2012 04:35PM

oscarsmith Wrote:
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> All star coaching staff that we ran/passed all
> over. Please, passing game? You guys up there are
> so far behing the times you think it's still the
> 1970's
> even Delaware got rid of the wing T!


Like the first poster put it had Cville had all their weapons, the game would have been alot more competitive. Also as a poster noted the rules of engagement here in the Northern Region versus the ER are completely different. We here in the Northern Region follow the rules and transfers are few and far between because you have to actually move to get into a new school (well except Lake Braddock). Not like the Beach area where all you have to do is provide your own ride or pretend to move in with your Uncle Ray Ray. Even with the ER not following the VHSL rules the Northern Region has won the lion share of State Championships at the largest divison D6 football.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: July 27, 2012 06:05PM

I'm from ER, live in NR, and love the FB in both regions. Concorde alone has 2-3 teams capable of winning D6 every year. W'field and C'Ville are recent examples. Before that, you had LB, Oakton, Robinson and Chantilly. Both NR and ER have talent, coaches and rivalries. O. Smith has won 2 of the past 5 but W'field had a couple, too. Smith's win last year at UVA would have been MUCH closer if C'Ville's D star hadn't gotten hurt in Q1 He was a beast and C'Ville's blitz was why Smith had to run so many backside screens. In D5, Phoebus has won 5 of 6 and Hampton is often tough. Yet SB is always tough on both sides of the ball and SoCo's D was insane last year and took Phoebus to the wire at UVA. Then you have teams like Yorktown that have never won but are now putting speed on the field that equals anything ER has. I'll still go see Phoebus and Hampton every now and then, but this fall I'm planning to catch a dif NR game every week. I'm just starting to look at scheds and am trying to figure of where to be.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Real Estate ()
Date: July 27, 2012 06:23PM

Who ever attended LB that didn't move? Zanellato moved. The Henderson's moved. If you are a QB or a WR where else would you want to play? Parents choose to move.Spreading rumors without a grain of truth is wrong. I guess you follow the crowd like many on this board.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: waste ()
Date: July 27, 2012 09:16PM

If you are allowed to transfer to LB without following the rules, it sucks that all those families that moved in the last few years weren't told. They could have saved a crap load of money, especially since either way they were going to be told they are not allowed to choose what's best for their kids before getting approval from all the haters.

Follow the hate you find something great!
Go USA!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: preps ()
Date: July 27, 2012 09:21PM

VA preps surveyed local coaches asking what players were to make an impact in the coming season. Some interesting responses







Northern Region Players to Watch
We surveyed coaches from around the state asking them to indicate who were the best offensive and defensive players in their district and why they chose the players that they did.

Their answers supplied us with some ideas about which players are expected to shine on the fields this Fall on Friday nights.

Here are their thoughts...

Offense

Kyle Downer, QB, Oakton

"Big, athletic, smart and experienced."
"He is a big physical runner who can hurt you with the pass or run. He is a playmaker for their offense."
"He has the arm and foot work of a pocket passer with the strength and speed of a running quarterback. He is truly a dual threat."

Sonny Romine, QB, Chantilly

"Athletic, smart, experienced and a playmaker at crunch time."

DeAndre Harris, RB, Chantilly

"Elusive and quick, can make something out of nothing."

Jordan Coneys, WR, Falls Church

"He is a rising junior and very explosive with amazing jumping ability. As a 10th grader, he had 37 catches for 587 yards and 6 touchdowns. Looking to have a huge Junior year."

Ryan Burns, QB, Stone Bridge

"He has a big arm, he just needs to do it in a game situation."

Rassaun Goldring, RB, Stone Bridge

"Will be the surprise , great returner, great hands, solid running back."

Caleb Henderson, QB, Lake Braddock

"Because of his blend of size and agility. He also delivers a great pass and makes good decisions."
"A proven player who had a good finish to the year. Henderson will be very tough in that offense."

Jonathan Dunn, RB, West Springfield

"Ran for 1,500 yards last year on a team that had trouble passing."
"Probably the best back in the region ? can run, catch, and is physical ? proven performer."

Others mentioned without comment:
Mike Wandey, RB, Oakton
M.J. Stewart, RB, Yorktown

Defense

Andy Boone, DB, Oakton

"An explosive player when he is on offense and special teams. Three year varsity player. Has a ton of experience. A ball hawk who has the speed to run with anyone's deep threat."

Jake Pinkston, DT, Robinson

"1st team last year as a sophomore was dominate then and should be more dominate this year."
"He is a problem. He takes away run to his side. Very physical and strong."
"Dominating."

Sean Huelskamp, LB, Chantilly

"I think he will be one of the best, if not the best, linebacker this year."

Jon Allen, DE, Stone Bridge

"Quite simply put, he is the most athletic and destructible force to any offense."
"Top defensive player in the country."
"He disrupts every offensive scheme. His ability to get in the backfield and make plays is unlike any player I have seen."
"Do I really have to answer this one? May be the best high school football player I have ever seen."

MJ Stewart, DB, Yorktown

"The most dynamic player in the region. MJ's ability to break on the football makes him a division 1 caliber athlete."

Oren Burks, LB, South County

"Multi-talented defender, can put his hand in dirt and play in space."

Bunmi Rotimi, DL, West Potomac

"He is a disruptive force on the defensive line. He is just starting to scratch the surface of his potential and an all around great person."

Frank Sturek, DB, West Springfield

"Free safety that will cover the entire field."

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Ohio Boy ()
Date: July 27, 2012 10:49PM

Random Dude Wrote:
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> I know it's only 7 on 7, but Kenton winning this
> tournament certainly says something about football
> in Ohio. Kenton is less than half the size of the
> smallest FCPS high school and yet they travel out
> to Maryland and walk out with the championship.


I coached HS football in Ohio a few years ago. Its a different environment there. The coaching depth is much better and the gene pool has much more natural talent in it. There are many more Division 2/3 level football players there than in VA. The best players here are equal to the best players there, but the second level players in Ohio are much closer to the top talent than in VA.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KingJames ()
Date: July 28, 2012 11:19AM

Westfield will once again prove to be the class of the Concorde. No superstars, but well coached and alot of good solid talent.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Skeptical ()
Date: July 28, 2012 12:49PM

KingJames Wrote:
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> Westfield will once again prove to be the class of
> the Concorde. No superstars, but well coached and
> alot of good solid talent.


I just don't get it. Westfield is losing virtually all of their starters from last year. Why is everyone so high on them this year? Chantilly and Oakton will be the cream of the crop in the Concorde this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: new? ()
Date: July 28, 2012 02:39PM

You must be new here.

Westfield loses most of their team every year. That's the old LB model from the 90's. Get entire classes to play with each other and move the next one up. The centreville model is the play 11 guys both ways for 3 years than have to reset. Westfield will never need to rebuild in terms of being at least a contender for the region. When the pieces are right they will make their runs for more.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Hommer ()
Date: July 30, 2012 09:21AM

Ohio Boy Wrote:
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> Random Dude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I know it's only 7 on 7, but Kenton winning
> this
> > tournament certainly says something about
> football
> > in Ohio. Kenton is less than half the size of
> the
> > smallest FCPS high school and yet they travel
> out
> > to Maryland and walk out with the championship.
>
>
> I coached HS football in Ohio a few years ago.
> Its a different environment there. The coaching
> depth is much better and the gene pool has much
> more natural talent in it. There are many more
> Division 2/3 level football players there than in
> VA. The best players here are equal to the best
> players there, but the second level players in
> Ohio are much closer to the top talent than in VA.


I love these people from other areas who come here and bad mouth or reflect on how much better things were "back home".

OK Ohioboy how do you know the Coaching is better in Ohio? The gene pool as you put it is better? Really? explain

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Ohio Boy ()
Date: July 30, 2012 10:23AM

Hommer,
Many of the coaches in Ohio bounce back and forth betweeen HS jobs and small colleges. The coaching staffs are much larger and almost all of the coaches played college football. Also, the coaches have much more experience. A lot of the coaches in NOVA are very young.
Ohio is generally one of the top 5 states in terms of Div 1 football recruits. The players there are generally bigger and faster than the average football player in NOVA. I guess, since I've seen both groups, I made an educated comment about what someone else had witnessed. Sorry to share my opinion and make you get defensive!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Virginia stat Man ()
Date: July 30, 2012 12:31PM

according to Rivals in 2011 ohio had 55,027 high school football players, virginia had 25,651. Easy to see why ohio has more d-1 players. more to choose from, Also VA has about 3 or 4 large pockets of good D-1 talent Hampton Roads, Richmond Metro and Nova. Ohio is more spread across the state.

Ohio's population was 11,544,951 in 2011, VA pop 8,096,604 in 2011. more people to choose from more D-1 players. nothing to do with gene pool other than the pure numbers.Ohio has more HS football tradition however the VA HS programs oscar Smith, phoebus, hampton westfield, Robinson, and others are on par with Ohio. Not sure Ohio Boy has resume history on va coached and ohio coaches but he is entitled to his opinion, "every body has one"

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Hommer ()
Date: July 30, 2012 12:57PM

Ohio Boy Wrote:
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> Hommer,
> Many of the coaches in Ohio bounce back and forth
> betweeen HS jobs and small colleges. The coaching
> staffs are much larger and almost all of the
> coaches played college football. Also, the
> coaches have much more experience. A lot of the
> coaches in NOVA are very young.

Not Defensive just looking for reasoning behind your opinion. I am not sure what Virginia High School staffs you are familiar with. If you look at the Concorde District staffs I think you will find exactly what you describe about the Ohio staffs. Well, except the Coaches bouncing back and forth between High School and College staffs. We prefer to have stable Coaches who want to be here, and who stay and develop kids and programs; not Coaches who try and fail at the College level and then come back to the High School level bitter and and feeling stuck and putting in time until the next College opportunity comes along.

But if that is what you consider superior good for you! You can keep it.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concordefan ()
Date: August 01, 2012 09:23AM

new? Wrote:
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> You must be new here.
>
> Westfield loses most of their team every year.
> That's the old LB model from the 90's. Get entire
> classes to play with each other and move the next
> one up. The centreville model is the play 11 guys
> both ways for 3 years than have to reset.
> Westfield will never need to rebuild in terms of
> being at least a contender for the region. When
> the pieces are right they will make their runs for
> more.

Westfield has been able to do that in the past I am not so sure that may be the case this year. I do not see the talent there like in years past, I think re districting maybe starting to take its toll. We will see soon, they have an All Star Coaching staff and they will maximize what talent they have. I see Westfield in the playoffs, I do not see them winning the Region.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: August 01, 2012 11:02AM

Virginia stat Man Wrote:
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> Ohio has more HS
> football tradition however the VA HS programs
> oscar Smith, phoebus, hampton westfield, Robinson,
> and others are on par with Ohio.

I don't know if I would even go that far, and it would be pretty hard to quantify. I would say that there would be no team in VA favored in a game against a team like Cleveland St. Ignatius (then again, publics and privates play in the same divisions in Ohio).

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: August 01, 2012 11:08AM

NM



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/01/2012 11:09AM by Random Dude.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: seriously.. ()
Date: August 01, 2012 12:11PM

WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT OHIO? THAT IS SOO RANDOM, GO MAKE AN OHIO THREAD or some shit..

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: oscarsmith ()
Date: August 01, 2012 06:49PM

We may be behind the times, but at least we can speak and write in English. How's plantation life treating you?

Quite well thank you! Was that a reference to Hispanics or us black folk? In either case it sounds like a someone who is totally ignorant of the facts Darrel Green’s son Oakton,(Loudon county_, Evan Royster Westfield,(Fairfax), Nate Warrick Chantilly, (Fairfax) Nick Smith Centreville, (Louden County) and numerous Manassas players who play at Centreville

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: oscarsmith ()
Date: August 01, 2012 07:07PM

We may be behind the times, but at least we can speak and write in English. How's plantation life treating you?





Quite well thank you! Was that a reference to Hispanics or us black folk? In either case it sounds like a someone who is totally ignorant of the facts Darrel Green’s son Oakton,(Loudon county_, Evan Royster Westfield,(Fairfax), Nate Warrick Chantilly, (Fairfax) Nick Smith Centreville, (Louden County) and numerous Manassas players who play at Centreville

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: August 01, 2012 10:01PM

seriously.. Wrote:
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> WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT OHIO? THAT IS SOO RANDOM,
> GO MAKE AN OHIO THREAD or some shit..


OH has good high school FB, but you don't see a lot of SEC recruiters there. That's because much of the talent is in the SE, from the 757 east and to the south. Look at NFL drafts over time, look at the SEC's dominance in polls and on the field. In the past 20 years, the balance of power shifted to Miami and then more generally to the SEC. For example, since 1998, 5 diff SEC teams have won the mystical title--Tenn, Fla, Aub, Ala, and LSU. Prospects for a 7th straight this year look pretty good. Maybe Urban can do something now that he is back home but the depth is in the SE, surely not in OH and the MW.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: HSFOOTBALLFAN ()
Date: August 03, 2012 12:52AM

Next week camps open and soon thereafter games start. Who are the teams to beat this year?

Lake Braddock
Centreville
Oakton
Chantilly
Westfield

I think one of these teams will win the region. Anyone agree, disagree?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: August 03, 2012 08:36AM

Way to go out on a limb there.

HSFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:
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> Next week camps open and soon thereafter games
> start. Who are the teams to beat this year?
>
> Lake Braddock
> Centreville
> Oakton
> Chantilly
> Westfield
>
> I think one of these teams will win the region.
> Anyone agree, disagree?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: pissant ()
Date: August 03, 2012 08:19PM

seriously.. Wrote:
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> WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT OHIO? THAT IS SOO RANDOM,
> GO MAKE AN OHIO THREAD or some shit..

Who gives a fuck about Ohio? Um, it's one of the biggest football hotbeds in the United States and has been for close to a century and it's also home to tOSU, arguably the most high-profile football program in the country. It's also the cradle of coaches: Urban Meyer, Bob Stoops, Mark Stoops, Les Miles, Bo Pelini, Gary Pinkel, Nick Saban, Woody Hayes, Bo Schembechler, Ara Parseghian, Don Shula, Chuck Noll, Jon Gruden - all Ohioans. That's why people give a fuck about Ohio ("or some shit...").

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: August 03, 2012 09:32PM

You left out Paul Brown

pissant Wrote:
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> seriously.. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT OHIO? THAT IS SOO
> RANDOM,
> > GO MAKE AN OHIO THREAD or some shit..
>
> Who gives a fuck about Ohio? Um, it's one of the
> biggest football hotbeds in the United States and
> has been for close to a century and it's also home
> to tOSU, arguably the most high-profile football
> program in the country. It's also the cradle of
> coaches: Urban Meyer, Bob Stoops, Mark Stoops, Les
> Miles, Bo Pelini, Gary Pinkel, Nick Saban, Woody
> Hayes, Bo Schembechler, Ara Parseghian, Don Shula,
> Chuck Noll, Jon Gruden - all Ohioans. That's why
> people give a fuck about Ohio ("or some shit...").

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: seriously.. ()
Date: August 04, 2012 11:54AM

pissant Wrote:
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> seriously.. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT OHIO? THAT IS SOO
> RANDOM,
> > GO MAKE AN OHIO THREAD or some shit..
>
> Who gives a fuck about Ohio? Um, it's one of the
> biggest football hotbeds in the United States and
> has been for close to a century and it's also home
> to tOSU, arguably the most high-profile football
> program in the country. It's also the cradle of
> coaches: Urban Meyer, Bob Stoops, Mark Stoops, Les
> Miles, Bo Pelini, Gary Pinkel, Nick Saban, Woody
> Hayes, Bo Schembechler, Ara Parseghian, Don Shula,
> Chuck Noll, Jon Gruden - all Ohioans. That's why
> people give a fuck about Ohio ("or some shit...").


this is fairfax underground... meaning it is things that are going around from around the area. why are you talking about Ohio... thats so fucking random.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: where ()
Date: August 04, 2012 01:17PM

where the heck is OHIO

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Excited ()
Date: August 06, 2012 12:32PM

First Day of High School practice for Fairfax County football. Everyone is undefeated and looking great. Any scrimmages coming up of interest? Here is to everyone having a great and Healthy season.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: August 06, 2012 01:05PM

where Wrote:
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> where the heck is OHIO


It's that state that kind of looks like a heart and has the Pro Football Hall of Fame

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Classof2014 ()
Date: August 06, 2012 01:10PM

Westfield vs. DeMatha on 8/17 @ WHS

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Siege ()
Date: August 06, 2012 03:30PM

>Caring about High School Football

Hilarious

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: football fan ()
Date: August 06, 2012 08:21PM

Excited Wrote:
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> First Day of High School practice for Fairfax
> County football. Everyone is undefeated and
> looking great. Any scrimmages coming up of
> interest? Here is to everyone having a great and
> Healthy season.


Hylton @ Oakton on 8/17.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Siegefucker ()
Date: August 07, 2012 05:55PM

Siege Wrote:
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> >Caring about High School Football
>
> Hilarious


Siege... We all know why you don't care about High School football. The football players kicked your punk ass and made you feel like the little Bitch you are! Bullying is wrong, MOST of the time

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whoknows ()
Date: August 08, 2012 09:26AM

Random Dude Wrote:
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> Way to go out on a limb there.
>
> HSFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Next week camps open and soon thereafter games
> > start. Who are the teams to beat this year?
> >
> > Lake Braddock
> > Centreville
> > Oakton
> > Chantilly
> > Westfield
> >
> > I think one of these teams will win the region.
> > Anyone agree, disagree?


What about West Potomac or Fairfax? I thought they were supposed to be good this year

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: hmmm ()
Date: August 08, 2012 04:20PM

If you want to tell jokes, use a different thread.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cvillebacker ()
Date: August 09, 2012 01:34PM

Some great scrimmages happening soon. Cville hosts Hylton 8/24/12, Hylton is a legit State contender and will show us what Cville has this year.

Westfield hosts Dematha 8/17/12, Dematha plays in the ultra strong WAC conference and will aslo show what Westfield has this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Lets BeReal ()
Date: August 09, 2012 06:08PM

Number 10, Edison? Are you kidding? Edison stopped being relevant when Vaughan Lewis and his staff stopped coaching. No one wants to play for Edison, because the coaches and athletic director are a joke!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: sad ()
Date: August 09, 2012 09:10PM

My son played for Coach Lewis. He watched a 2 a day that was going on this week. He told me no wonder they suck their 2 a days are practices. That under Coach Lewis they were for conditioning(duh like they should be). Especially the first week. Not now. They are up there running plays and have already decided who is going to play where. Not sure if they will have any good players this year or not. Don't follow them after he graduated. But if you don't know what a 2 a day is for than you shouldn't be coaching.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Not Sad ()
Date: August 10, 2012 01:34AM

obviously you and your son have been away from HS football a couple years. VA now has so many off season conditioning/ practice days that any descent team is already in good to great condition. Find out about the green day environment we now live in.If you are doing conditioning this week you are way behind.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Guess I was wrong ()
Date: August 10, 2012 04:48PM

I thought the green days just started. The off season conditioning doesn't allow for you to get players in football shape. Oh well what does my son know. I will talk to him about his lack of knowledge as we drive to his D1 college tomorrow where he plays football on a scholarship that Coach Lewis helped him get. Thank God he didn't need to know anything about football to get it.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: HEHE LOVE IT ()
Date: August 10, 2012 07:46PM

I am now dumber for having read 2 of the last 3 comments.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Not Sad but now dumber ()
Date: August 10, 2012 10:16PM

After I read the below by guess I was wrong I also am now much dumber.
"I thought the green days just started. The off season conditioning doesn't allow for you to get players in football shape. "

Obviously you did not see how several schools used there green days --I know a few schools really took advantage this spring summer and appear to be in football shape already. Green days started in the spring by the way. and your son plays Div 1AA aka FCS football he is pretty good though.don't worry Edison will be descent this year. I know Stonebridge, south county, Robinson and Lake braddock took advatage of theirs and are ready to go. These teams realize now week 1 is too late when you no longer have to wait.Yorktown is also well conditioned from so much 7 on 7 but not sure they did much football contact with the helmet and shoulder pad work like the other 4 aboveh did which has them closer to actual football condition for the contact aspect of football as well as the active running. back in my day we ran lots of gassers/wind sprints week 1 and 2.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: LiarLiar ()
Date: August 11, 2012 01:26PM

Guess I was wrong Wrote:
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> I thought the green days just started. The off
> season conditioning doesn't allow for you to get
> players in football shape. Oh well what does my
> son know. I will talk to him about his lack of
> knowledge as we drive to his D1 college tomorrow
> where he plays football on a scholarship that
> Coach Lewis helped him get. Thank God he didn't
> need to know anything about football to get it.


If your son played for a D1 college he would have been at school in camp for the last week. That makes you a liar! So drive your son to whatever shithole school he attends and keep making shit up about football.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cvillebacker ()
Date: August 15, 2012 10:05AM

Scrimmages start this Friday! The season is almost here. A lot of work by a lot of kids should be paying off on the field. Here is hoping all stay healthy and safe! Good Luck to all the teams, BUT a little more luck to Centreville Wildcats

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: typical ()
Date: August 15, 2012 04:51PM

Because Centreville starts Friday the kids who play Thursday don't count.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Siege ()
Date: August 15, 2012 05:14PM

Actually no. The High School players at my school failed multiple times and are probably all fathers right now.


Sorry I'm not a dumb jock who has no aspirations in life other than making tackles :)

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: scrimmages ()
Date: August 17, 2012 09:38PM

all i know is that Chantilly whooped South Countys ass today 28-7. Chantilly had 4 forced turnovers in the first half

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: or were they gift turnovers? ()
Date: August 18, 2012 03:39AM

That's all they could score with those turnovers?
LB beat fairfax 42 - 0 with no turnovers.
And according to the message board this spring Fairfax is a serious contender.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: another chantilly fan ()
Date: August 18, 2012 12:07PM

I am a Chantilly fan and to keep it real with the starters in it was chantilly 14 south county 7. We (tilly) looked good running the ball early, we also had 3 turnovers when our starters were in.Romine threw 1 pick and we fumbled twice. SOCO took a while to get warmed up it seemed. I believe we will be good and that young south county team will probably be good by mid season. Our back ups added two TD's against South County's backups. I also want to keep it real and not get too excited but with no kickoffs and punt returns not sure how good either teams special teams will be. That could be a difference also. think we will be in the mix in the concorde this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: hylian loach ()
Date: August 18, 2012 02:59PM

Dont sleep on a rebel upheaval!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Rocker II ()
Date: August 19, 2012 12:37AM

The Henderson brothers did not follow the rules when transferring to Lake Braddock. Daddy Henderson moved his kids there with the understanding that he would be given a teaching job. When no teaching job was available, Henderson threatened to move his kids to a private school unless he got a job. Poythress told LB administration that if Henderson didn't get a job, Caleb was gone. Eric Henderson was quietly hired as LB Dean of Students during the summer. He got his job, now his sons will stay at LB. Football corrupts.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: what ()
Date: August 19, 2012 09:28AM


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Re: High School Football
Posted by: true FB fan ()
Date: August 19, 2012 10:55AM

thank you shit for brains Rocker II. Your ignorance is very entertaining. "did not follow the rules" and "moved his kids there" makes you look stupid. Rules were followed. How about enjoying the upcoming season like the rest of the normal folks around here? Hate is a dangerous thing.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Mellencamp ()
Date: August 19, 2012 11:31AM

Odd that the Hendersons moved into Burke prior to any job. Rocker II knows just enough to be dangerous and wrong at the same time. BTW- John Cougar sucks

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: oscarsmith ()
Date: August 19, 2012 12:59PM

Fairfax didn't score because they were running the ball down hill.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: UnderRatedUnAppreciated ()
Date: August 19, 2012 02:29PM

Any updates on scrimmages this past week?? Patriot to be specific.....

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: down heel ()
Date: August 19, 2012 02:31PM

Funny how Fairfax is a downhill run team but got outrushed by a team that throws first.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Trust No One ()
Date: August 19, 2012 03:54PM

While still living in the West Potomac area, Henderson moves his kids to LB in March, then moves to a house in Burke in June. Star players get to pick their schools?? Poythress is a liar when he says Daddy Henderson was just looking for a job and the kids just happened to come with the dad. Poythress doesn't like Daddy Henderson but chose to take Daddy and his cronies from WP to keep Caleb at LB. Telling the truth is not hate.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Dark Horse ()
Date: August 19, 2012 07:23PM

Keep your eye on Jefferson in the Liberty District this year. They have close to 30 returning seniors.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: August 19, 2012 09:45PM

Dark Horse Wrote:
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> Keep your eye on Jefferson in the Liberty District
> this year. They have close to 30 returning
> seniors.


Yeah, they came for the sports.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: daddy hendo ()
Date: August 19, 2012 09:55PM

Call P a liar to his face. You won't.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: hendoses ()
Date: August 19, 2012 10:45PM

Henderson kids, blah blah blah, some rumour I heard in a meeting third hand about hendo, blah blah, i'm a grown up who anonymously writes about teenage boys, blah blah.

Even if what you write is true. Why would you dilute it by putting it on a website that is 10% fact? haha

When I know something concrete I don't hide I make sure things get taken care of and I don't have to act like a 4 yr old with a computer. :)

So keep wrongfully slandering people and I'm sure your team will keep losing because all the time you put into beating people with false information you could be fixing your horrible version of rotation cover 3.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NOVA fan ()
Date: August 20, 2012 11:09AM

Former Lake braddock all region DB Greg Jones is making the most of his preferred walk on opportunity at Va tech.. Multiple sources are reporting that jones is really making plays at the hokies preseason practices. Hokies coaches have really been impressed with the freshman safety. Jones was without a doubt the best atlete on lake braddocks team last year,but was a bit of a late bloomer. I predict he will ear a scholarship before his hokies career is over.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Maybe ()
Date: August 20, 2012 12:41PM

NOVA fan Wrote:
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> Former Lake braddock all region DB Greg Jones is
> making the most of his preferred walk on
> opportunity at Va tech.. Multiple sources are
> reporting that jones is really making plays at the
> hokies preseason practices. Hokies coaches have
> really been impressed with the freshman safety.
> Jones was without a doubt the best atlete on lake
> braddocks team last year,but was a bit of a late
> bloomer. I predict he will ear a scholarship
> before his hokies career is over.

May have a chance if he has learned to control his temper.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: snitchy mcsnitches ()
Date: August 20, 2012 05:14PM

Since nobody has put up a bunch of silly Henderson half truths today I wanted to make sure everyone knows he parked illegally 10 mintues ago since I devote my life to knowing all these things yet somehow manage to still get things wrong or mixed up. :)

oh wait, news flash.
He just stopped at the dry cleaners... he went in with nothing and came out with a garment bag. fishy if you ask me. stay tuned I'm going to get to the bottom of this...

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: To talk Football ()
Date: August 20, 2012 06:35PM

Just saw tape o SB Hayfield is Hayfield good or is SB going to be even worse than last year? Is SB's run over are they now an established community that only produces middle of the road teams and has their football program leveled out at only being able to beat Liberty teams?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: sb bulldawg ()
Date: August 20, 2012 10:25PM

Stone Bridge has their best team in years and D5 is down this year, which means they will dominate. They have a D1 QB who I imagine will play like one this year, and arguably the best defensive football player in the state.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Earl Deeton ()
Date: August 21, 2012 08:12AM

Henderson update:
While tailing Henderson today, he made an out of the ordinary stop at what appeared to be a petroleum replenishment station. After sticking some sort of device into the car he was driving (probably not his, by the way. I'll need to run a make on the plate.) he waited about 10 minutes. He then proceeded to suspiciously REMOVE said device from his car and drive away.

Through excellent detective work, I've picked up a pattern of behavior - he did the exact same thing a week ago. more to follow...

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: snitchy mcsnitches ()
Date: August 21, 2012 08:53AM

While following Henderson up and down the grocery aisles with his wife I noticed that I was not the only interestsed party. As he grabbed a box of triscuits (I think low fat) I noticed several very sad and lonely men were also in pursuit of this party snacker.

I proceeded to intercept and communicate with the other gentlemen in tail and learned that we all share a similar story. We have lost touch with family and friends in the name of "keeping the playing field level" for a bunch of people who don't even appreciate us. We are also very illogically vindictive and have barbie collections but I figure that's just coincidence.

After sliding back into hot pursuit Henderson purchased a pack of Klondike bars which then had to be put into a different type of bag so as to keep them cold for the travels home... which of course I will be along for...

stay tuned. If I can beat him home I will give you a report on his mail. Yesterday it was full of coupons and suspiciously did not contain one menu for any sort of asian take out...

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: more snitchin' ()
Date: August 21, 2012 03:38PM

Word on the street - Daddy Hendo is at it again, trying to mislead folks. The coaching staff at Braddock is supposed to all wear the same shorts. He has been seen in black, west potomac blue, green and light blue on different occasions while supposedly coaching LB kids. He is sending mixed signals, do not trust him. Wonder if Poythree knows about this? It’s tough, but I manage stay one step ahead of him in order to report the truth. Rules must be followed and remember, trust no one. More later.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Earl Deeton ()
Date: August 21, 2012 06:18PM

According to his pedometer, Hendo took 39 more steps total today than he did yesterday.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: rollypollyolly ()
Date: August 21, 2012 06:31PM

yo on another scrimmage score, woodson tied pvi 21-21 in their scrimmage on thursday

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: snitchy mcsnitches ()
Date: August 21, 2012 07:57PM

I am currently behind the Henderson vehicle (it has 4 wheels, 2 on each side and the left front wheel is a tad bit low as I always check his tire pressure when he's at extended red lights) and I swear he had his blinkers on for 3 stop lights before realizing and turned them off. Was he going somewhere and changed his mind, is he on to me, is he doing it to cause me to ponder all this... The man is either a genius or a baffoon because there can be no gray area.

wait, wait, he is turning into a giant Mart store this is serious, every member of the family has a full size shopping cart... good god! more to come!!!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Enough ()
Date: August 23, 2012 10:59AM

snitchy mcsnitches Wrote:
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> I am currently behind the Henderson vehicle (it
> has 4 wheels, 2 on each side and the left front
> wheel is a tad bit low as I always check his tire
> pressure when he's at extended red lights) and I
> swear he had his blinkers on for 3 stop lights
> before realizing and turned them off. Was he
> going somewhere and changed his mind, is he on to
> me, is he doing it to cause me to ponder all
> this... The man is either a genius or a baffoon
> because there can be no gray area.
>
> wait, wait, he is turning into a giant Mart store
> this is serious, every member of the family has a
> full size shopping cart... good god! more to
> come!!!!


Enough already! We all know Henderson is a cheater, he got fired from WP by FCPS and winning is everything LB hired him as DC. Let it Go!

On with the season

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: It Is Let Go ()
Date: August 23, 2012 11:47AM

Well actually to be clear Henderson is not the cheater. Dale Eaton is. His juvinile tricks and homo hard on for Henderson worked in the fact that Henderson was fired from coaching. But, Eaton had the plan to get that fool Everett in the WP job and use Henderson's QB kid to win. But all those plans were messed up when Henderson moved his family to Lake Braddock which is a much better school for academics and a hell of a team. So thats when Eaton scrambled and he was desperite and got the principles secretary fired for her giving him information on the kids transfer, because Eaton was trying to prove that rules were not being followed and he knew that Henderson was taking his kids from the WP program. And Eaton also pissed off the high up administration Bill Curren and the cluster person. That is why Everett did not get the job. So, in the end - Henderson and his kids are in a better place. And Dale Eaton is still a pathetic excuse whose plans were all messed up by his stupidity. And not to mention the mess that the WP program is in now. Our community is in an uproar and we know that Eaton was behind it all. Enjoy the season if you can because it will be tough for us in the WP community and that is not fair.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: snitchy mcsnitches ()
Date: August 23, 2012 12:00PM

While following Henderson across county lines, I kept being cut off by another car in chase that had the license plate "ENOUGH". This particular car forced me off the road and I was unable to observe what Henderson picked up at Petsmart.

I did notice before being bumped from my obsession that this car had a multitude of know it all, yet factually wrong bumper stickers.

I took a mental snap shot and will now see if I can recall them.

"I Recycle because it stimulates hair growth"

"If you were aborted most people hate you"

"the flying spaghetti monster reads minds, you're all screwed"

"People with self respect always should paint someone a cheater with a broad brush based only on personal vendettas".

"If you pick your nose God will eat your first born"

"When people are fired by an administrator and then resolved of all accusations by the county that means they were fired by FCPS and that they are still working for them is evidence that can be overlooked. so friends of that administrator should go online anonymously and hope people believe how matter of fact they are spreading lies for self preservation as their jobs were the only ones truly at risk."

"Vote or die"

"If evolution is real why are there Monkey's still?"

There were a few longer ones but my memory is only so good.
Now I have to get my car back on the road and find what ol Henderson is up to now. My guess is something sinister relating a routine dental cleaning or pizza.

I am hoping to hear more from Enough. I think there is more than meets the bumper sticker with that one! I also believe that ENOUGH only applies to others and we haven't heard the last from our friend with all the fake answers!

It's hard enough reporting on everything Henderson does when you have guys too lazy to actually make it a full time job just galavanting around making things up.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Earl Deeton ()
Date: August 23, 2012 04:51PM

Looks like enough just made the 'tail' list. Enough needs to realize there's only one thing more important that FCPS football - making sure the playing field's level. By the way, I am pretty sure that Hendo's contract wasn't renewed by the WP administration (not FCPS). If FCPS fired him, how could he have a job at LB?? Think, if only just a little.

FYI, while tailing Henderson today, I followed him into the bathroom. I'm guessing he is trying to 'go green' by conserving water.
1 - He didn't flush. Through the principles of detection, I've determined he had chipotle for lunch.
2 - He didn't wash his hands.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: August 23, 2012 08:57PM

Since we're speaking Henderson ... how about a real football post?

LB is at Centreville first week of the season - any thoughts?

Side note, the district reaignments are available and no one is going to complain that Stone Bridge is out of the Fairfax districts and back in Loudoun where they belong.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Contenders and Pretenders ()
Date: August 25, 2012 11:40AM

Now that all the pre season games are over, and training camp is wrapping up for everyone in the area, which teams have emerged as real contenders, and pretenders? All spring and summer the chatter on these boards claimed that Lake Braddock, Centreville and Fairfax were going to be the best teams in 2012.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: HSFootballfan ()
Date: August 25, 2012 12:30PM

Contenders and Pretenders Wrote:
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> Now that all the pre season games are over, and
> training camp is wrapping up for everyone in the
> area, which teams have emerged as real contenders,
> and pretenders? All spring and summer the chatter
> on these boards claimed that Lake Braddock,
> Centreville and Fairfax were going to be the best
> teams in 2012.


Real simple: in D6 Lake Braddock and the Concorde District teams (Centreville, Westfield, Oakton, Chantilly & Robinson) minus Herndon. Fairfax and TC Williams will sneak in to the playoffs and be first round playoff losers.

In D5 Stone Bridge, Hayfield, South County, Madison, will be the top rated with a bunch of next level teams.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Sceptic ()
Date: August 25, 2012 12:42PM

sb bulldawg Wrote:
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> Stone Bridge has their best team in years and D5
> is down this year, which means they will dominate.
> They have a D1 QB who I imagine will play like
> one this year, and arguably the best defensive
> football player in the state.


Burns is the most over hyped player I have ever seen. I have seen him in person twice and on tape multiple times including this years Hayfield scrimmage. He has all the tools, blows away the eye test; BUT when the lights are on and the game is being played he has not gotten it done.

Maybe he can show what everyone else sees in him this year. My guess is he will go to Stanford and will never see the field.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: gator ()
Date: August 25, 2012 04:43PM

Is madison any good this year? They had a pretty good season last year under new staff.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Rights ()
Date: August 25, 2012 09:34PM

Not sure if anyone noticed, but Defending AAA D6 State Champ Oscar Smith is getting spanked by Byrnes High School in South Carolina...Smith looks out of shape, and continues to bicker among themselves while Byrnes picks them apart at will.

757 a little overrated?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: fair facts ()
Date: August 25, 2012 09:44PM

Fairfax gave up 100 points in the pre-season from the scores listed.

Do they need to try a new scheme?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Sceptic you are right ()
Date: August 25, 2012 10:44PM

Burns is terrible come game time, but is it all him or are the players around him no help SB seems to have no o-line to speak of no running game and no receivers worth mentioning so I ask is Burns really that bad or does his team make him look worse than he really is because he sure does nothing to win games as the team stud in fact he loses games with his bad play just look at the Chantilly game last year all those interceptions were on him same with the SoCo game their coach cant ask him to carry a team

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: sb bulldog ()
Date: August 26, 2012 12:03AM

Stone Bridge hasn't lost more than 3 games in a season ever. I highly doubt his supporting cast is weak. They had a great oline last year, after week 2, all they did was run the ball and were successful at it.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: where? ()
Date: August 26, 2012 09:13AM

Random Dude Wrote:
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>
> Side note, the district reaignments are available
> and no one is going to complain that Stone Bridge
> is out of the Fairfax districts and back in
> Loudoun where they belong.


Link?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: 3 minutes on google ()
Date: August 26, 2012 01:09PM

where? Wrote:
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> Random Dude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Side note, the district reaignments are
> available
> > and no one is going to complain that Stone
> Bridge
> > is out of the Fairfax districts and back in
> > Loudoun where they belong.
>
>
> Link?


Here ya go lazy-ass: http://www.vhsl.org/alignment-2013-15

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: scrimmages ()
Date: August 26, 2012 02:06PM

What did you guys think about these scrimmages this past week? LB beat Chantilly 28-24. Is LB not as good as we think they will be? Or is Chantilly better than we think they will be? Comments?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRfootball ()
Date: August 28, 2012 09:08AM

NOVA fan Wrote:
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> Former Lake braddock all region DB Greg Jones is
> making the most of his preferred walk on
> opportunity at Va tech.. Multiple sources are
> reporting that jones is really making plays at the
> hokies preseason practices. Hokies coaches have
> really been impressed with the freshman safety.
> Jones was without a doubt the best atlete on lake
> braddocks team last year,but was a bit of a late
> bloomer. I predict he will ear a scholarship
> before his hokies career is over.


Thanks for the update Mr Jones. You hope he gets a scholly! Reality is he will never see the field.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Nova fan ()
Date: August 28, 2012 10:08PM

NRFootball wrote "Thanks for the update Mr Jones. You hope he gets a scholly! Reality is he will never see the field."

first of all Dickweed (no disrespect), this is not Mr Jones. secondly, see stats from Wash post Hokies journal http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/hokies-journal/post/rb-trey-edmunds-makes-his-case-to-play-now-at-virginia-techs-last-open-scrimmage/2012/08/23/43a00e40-ecbc-11e1-a80b-9f898562d010_blog.html jones led the D in tacles in the last open scrimmage and also articles on the hokies subscriber sites specifically mention how well Jones is doing. unfortunately they ask we not re post member information, Although I am sure even reading it you would still doubt it. I am no fan of lake braddock but like to see the local kids do well.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Spread for Week One ()
Date: August 29, 2012 11:45PM

HS Football Fans,

the season is upon us. A lot of great games highlighted by Centreville-Lake Braddock this week. Below are the spreads for week one. Usually the most inaccurate as teams will show their true colors in the next couple of days.

The 5 big ones in the Concorde and Lake Braddock will compete for the region. I give a slight edge to Chantilly who returns most of their pieces from last year with a chip on their shoulder after an embarrasing district display. Should be very interesting!

Thursday
Herndon @ Langley (-6.0)
Jefferson (-14.0) @ Falls Church
Lee (-3.0) @ Marshall
Mclean (-6.0) @ Washington-Lee
South Lakes @ Westfield (-35.0)
Stuart @ George Mason EVEN
WT Woodson @ Chantilly (-31.0)
Wakefield @ TC Williams (-7.0)
West Potomac @ Mount Vernon (-2.5)
West Springfield (-10.0) @ Edison

Friday
Annandale @ Fairfax (-6.0)
Lake Braddock (-8.5) @ Centreville
Oakton (-10.0) @ Madison
Robinson @ Stone Bridge (-6.5)
South County @ Hayfield (-2.5)

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: goodAF ()
Date: August 30, 2012 01:16AM

THE woodson cavailiers could beat any of yalls teams

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concordefballer ()
Date: August 30, 2012 03:51PM

goodAF Wrote:
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> THE woodson cavailiers could beat any of yalls
> teams


This is funny! Watch what the score will be tonight after Chantilly finishes destroying Woodson. I would LOVE it if Woodson beat them, but Woodson is soooo bad. Are there any athletes left at Woodson?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: TheNorthman ()
Date: August 31, 2012 08:15AM

Open

I have you now.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: August 31, 2012 10:24AM

Here are Thursday's scores.
> Thursday
> Herndon @ Langley (-6.0) Result: Langley 42, Herndon 14 (another season in the cellar for Herndon

> Jefferson (-14.0) @ Falls Church Result: Jefferson 28, Falls Church 12

> Lee (-3.0) @ Marshall Result: Lee 47, Marshall 7

> Mclean (-6.0) @ Washington-Lee Result: Mclean 14, W&L 12

> South Lakes @ Westfield (-35.0) Result: Westfield 51, South Lakes 12

> Stuart @ George Mason EVEN Result: Stuart 35, Mason 6

> WT Woodson @ Chantilly (-31.0) Result: Chantilly 48, Woodson 7
> Wakefield @ TC Williams (-7.0) Result: TCW 73, Wakefield 0

> West Potomac @ Mount Vernon (-2.5) Result: West Po 34, Mount Vernon 7

> West Springfield (-10.0) @ Edison Result:WS 49, Edison 19

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: football fan ()
Date: August 31, 2012 10:39PM

Any word on how LB QB Caleb Henderson did tonight?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: TJ Fan ()
Date: August 31, 2012 10:43PM

Watched the Braddock game. Final Score Centreville 28 - 27 Lake Braddock.

Henderson threw a couple picks but he looked alright. Their offensive line on the other hand looked completely terrible. Braddock couldn't get their run game going and their line rarely gave Henderson more than 1 - 2 seconds to throw the ball.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Fan1 ()
Date: August 31, 2012 10:50PM

So much for LB and the Hendersons. They lose game #1 to Centreville 28-27.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: August 31, 2012 11:15PM

Centreville still has one of the best front 7 in the region. For game 1, Lake Braddock looked alright. Their Oline is cause for concern though, I would agree with that.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: August 31, 2012 11:33PM

Fairfax over Annandale 29-19. Annandale looks significantly better than last year. 3 TDs for Fairfax's Nick Scott (transfered in from Brookline, Mass.)

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: question123 ()
Date: September 01, 2012 12:36AM

Anyone know the final of the South County- Hayfield game tonight?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: forbidden ()
Date: September 01, 2012 02:28AM

hayfield 36

soco 35

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cliffam ()
Date: September 01, 2012 09:22AM

Great win for the Centreville Wildcats last night! Great win for the kids, Wildcat Nation!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: soco ()
Date: September 01, 2012 01:16PM

Soco scored a TD in the last 8 seconds, but instead of going for OT, they went for 2 and didn't make it

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Leave AD ()
Date: September 01, 2012 04:44PM

Leave Bruins alone
Martino has enough problems

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: fbl fan ()
Date: September 02, 2012 04:51PM

Did someone say Caleb Henderson only looked OK? I thought he was the nation's #1 junior QB prospect! How did the other Henderson kid look?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Ahmayzin ()
Date: September 11, 2012 12:02PM

SL wins Baron Cameron Bowl against Herndon 21 - 7. ` South Lakes looks much improved this season. Refs were horrible. Should have easily been 35-0 SL. Friday it's SL vs Stonebridge.....*sigh*...not looking forward to that one.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KingConcorde ()
Date: September 11, 2012 06:24PM

BIG one on Friday night....Westfield vs. Lake Braddock, should be a good one

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High School Football
Posted by: Robinson Parent ()
Date: September 11, 2012 07:28PM

What happened to Robinson football?

They lost to Stonebridge, then got wiped out by West Springfield (28-0 at half-time).

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: September 13, 2012 12:16AM

Here is the spread for Friday's games. Got some good ones this week. 2 weeks in West Springfield looks like a suprise team, should be a good one this week against Lee's passing game.

Fairfax (-6.0) @ McLean
Falls Church @ Marshall (-9.5)
Herndon @ Yorktown (-35.0)
Langley @ Chantilly (-14.0)
Lee @ West Springfield (-10.0)
Madison @ Hayfield (-10.0)
Mount Vernon @ Centreville (-24.0)
Stone Bridge (-40.0) @ South Lakes
Stuart @ Annandale (-10.0)
TC Williams @ Robinson (-13.0)
Woodson @ Oakton (-35.0)
Wakefield @ Jefferson (-20.0)
Washington Lee (-7.0) @ Edison
West Potomac (-1.0) @ South County
Westfield (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock *Game of the Week

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: professer at JMU ()
Date: September 13, 2012 12:20AM

in all my years of teaching at both nvcc and JMU ive compiled enough research to confirm any student 15-24 who plays football is 83.24% more likely to engage in homosexual acts behind dumpsters including but not limit to ; barebacking multiple dicks at once,swallowing,snowballing,dirty sanches, tossing salad, hawaiian humpin, suck surfing, girdle grinding, edging, j/o, circle jerkin it, and skull fucking.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: the truth about this ()
Date: September 13, 2012 01:41PM

> Fairfax (-6.0) @ McLean Agree, I take Fairfax
> Falls Church @ Marshall (-9.5) Disagree, I like Falls Church here, will be close
> Herndon @ Yorktown (-35.0) Agree, take Yorktown by 35+
> Langley @ Chantilly (-14.0) Agree
> Lee @ West Springfield (-10.0) Agree
> Madison @ Hayfield (-10.0) Agree
> Mount Vernon @ Centreville (-24.0) Agree, take Centreville by around 30
> Stone Bridge (-40.0) @ South Lakes Agree, SB 40+
> Stuart @ Annandale (-10.0) Agree
> TC Williams @ Robinson (-13.0) Disagree, this will be a one score game
> Woodson @ Oakton (-35.0) Agree, Woodson terrible
> Wakefield @ Jefferson (-20.0) Agree, TJ 20+
> Washington Lee (-7.0) @ Edison Agree
> West Potomac (-1.0) @ South County I like South County here, great game
> Westfield (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock *Game of the Week I like LB with the upset

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WHS ()
Date: September 14, 2012 10:18PM

OOOOOHHHHH BABYYYYY!!!!! LETS GO WESTFIELD!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: September 15, 2012 08:00AM

Langley @ Chantilly was a great game. Lots of back and forth; Tilly scored with 1:30 left to take a 35-28 lead. Langley responds with a TD with just :30 left but a missed XP leaves the final score at 35-34 Chantilly.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 15, 2012 08:44AM

Chantilly/Langley was a great game. Glad they got a win, but the result was disappointing as it shows they are not a contender this year. Westfield has established themselves as the team to beat in D6, unbelievable with the 40 seniors that graduated, but they're loaded. They probably should have started Mullins as a jr last year at qb, he's good.

Fairfax (-6.0) @ McLean Fairfax 23-0 *great performance
Falls Church @ Marshall (-9.5) Falls Church 45-25
Herndon @ Yorktown (-35.0) Yorktown 51-21
Langley @ Chantilly (-14.0) Chantilly 35-34
Lee @ West Springfield (-10.0) West Springfield 33-14
Madison @ Hayfield (-10.0) Madison 24-17 UPSET
Mount Vernon @ Centreville (-24.0) Centreville 30-22
Stone Bridge (-40.0) @ South Lakes Stone Bridge 49-6
Stuart @ Annandale (-10.0) Annandale 32-27
TC Williams @ Robinson (-13.0) Robinson 40-21 *junior back runs for 413 yards and 6 touchdowns! Only attempted 2 passes all game.

Woodson @ Oakton (-35.0) Oakton 28-0
Wakefield @ Jefferson (-20.0) Jefferson 45-6
Washington Lee (-7.0) @ Edison Edison 14-0
West Potomac (-1.0) @ South County West Po 49-39
Westfield (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock Westfield 49-29

Prediction Record: 12-3

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Vegas ()
Date: September 15, 2012 09:20AM

If you're gonna throw spreads out there, you aren't even close to 12-3. You're 8-7 ATS

steve k2 Wrote:
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> Chantilly/Langley was a great game. Glad they got
> a win, but the result was disappointing as it
> shows they are not a contender this year.
> Westfield has established themselves as the team
> to beat in D6, unbelievable with the 40 seniors
> that graduated, but they're loaded. They probably
> should have started Mullins as a jr last year at
> qb, he's good.
>
> Fairfax (-6.0) @ McLean Fairfax 23-0 *great
> performance
> Falls Church @ Marshall (-9.5) Falls Church
> 45-25
> Herndon @ Yorktown (-35.0) Yorktown 51-21
> Langley @ Chantilly (-14.0) Chantilly 35-34
> Lee @ West Springfield (-10.0) West Springfield
> 33-14
> Madison @ Hayfield (-10.0) Madison 24-17
> UPSET
> Mount Vernon @ Centreville (-24.0) Centreville
> 30-22
> Stone Bridge (-40.0) @ South Lakes Stone Bridge
> 49-6
> Stuart @ Annandale (-10.0) Annandale 32-27
> TC Williams @ Robinson (-13.0) Robinson 40-21
> *junior back runs for 413 yards and 6 touchdowns!
> Only attempted 2 passes all game.
>
> Woodson @ Oakton (-35.0) Oakton 28-0
> Wakefield @ Jefferson (-20.0) Jefferson 45-6
> Washington Lee (-7.0) @ Edison Edison 14-0
> West Potomac (-1.0) @ South County West Po
> 49-39
> Westfield (-3.0) @ Lake Braddock Westfield 49-29
>
> Prediction Record: 12-3

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: We Are CVille ()
Date: September 15, 2012 07:59PM

Centreville has been looking good in the first half of the past two games, but not really playing well in the second. Concerned with the injuries, although when we get some guys back, including Taylor Boose, they should play better. They are very young but in a couple of years they could be near where they were last year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NVFBfan ()
Date: September 17, 2012 08:45AM

KingConcorde Wrote:
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> BIG one on Friday night....Westfield vs. Lake
> Braddock, should be a good one


Yea Big One!! Another Concorde Team win against the pack of individuals from LB. Westfield used these guys as LB picked up multiple Unsportmanslike conduct penalties from players and Coaches. It starts at the top with the Head Coach making a fired Coach his DC so his kid will play for him.

Cville beat them first with a young BUT together TEAM. Annandale almost beat them with much less talent BUT a TEAM that plays together. NOW we see what happens when a TEAM with as much Talent, but is a TEAM does to them.....BEAT DOWN

LB motto for the year: There is no I in team..... BUT there is a ME!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: UnderTheRadar ()
Date: September 17, 2012 09:25AM

Don't look now, but West Potomac is 3-0 with back to back wins over lastyear's state finalists.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: crazed ()
Date: September 17, 2012 02:57PM

EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> I'm from ER, live in NR, and love the FB in both
> regions. Concorde alone has 2-3 teams capable of
> winning D6 every year. W'field and C'Ville are
> recent examples. Before that, you had LB, Oakton,
> Robinson and Chantilly. Both NR and ER have
> talent, coaches and rivalries. O. Smith has won 2
> of the past 5 but W'field had a couple, too.
> Smith's win last year at UVA would have been MUCH
> closer if C'Ville's D star hadn't gotten hurt in
> Q1 He was a beast and C'Ville's blitz was why
> Smith had to run so many backside screens. In D5,
> Phoebus has won 5 of 6 and Hampton is often tough.
> Yet SB is always tough on both sides of the ball
> and SoCo's D was insane last year and took Phoebus
> to the wire at UVA. Then you have teams like
> Yorktown that have never won but are now putting
> speed on the field that equals anything ER has.
> I'll still go see Phoebus and Hampton every now
> and then, but this fall I'm planning to catch a
> dif NR game every week. I'm just starting to look
> at scheds and am trying to figure of where to be.


Thanks for mentioning my Alma mater. Yorktown has been dominant in D5 for years. I only wish we had the enrollment of a Robinson or a Lake Braddock. Their coaching staff led by Bruce Hansen is some of the best in Northern VA.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Dominant? ()
Date: September 17, 2012 03:27PM

Cool the jets there broseph. Yorktown has been good in D5 for years, but dominant isn't the word you are looking for. Save for a few exceptions, D5 has been owned by SBridge for almost a decade - Yorktown wasn't even the most dominant team in their own district when Vaughn Lewis was coaching at Edison.

crazed Wrote:
> Thanks for mentioning my Alma mater. Yorktown has
> been dominant in D5 for years. I only wish we had
> the enrollment of a Robinson or a Lake Braddock.
> Their coaching staff led by Bruce Hansen is some
> of the best in Northern VA.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: September 17, 2012 09:55PM

Dominant? Wrote:
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> Cool the jets there broseph. Yorktown has been
> good in D5 for years, but dominant isn't the word
> you are looking for. Save for a few exceptions, D5
> has been owned by SBridge for almost a decade -
> Yorktown wasn't even the most dominant team in
> their own district when Vaughn Lewis was coaching
> at Edison.
>
> crazed Wrote:
> > Thanks for mentioning my Alma mater. Yorktown
> has been dominant in D5 for years. I only wish we
> had the enrollment of a Robinson or a Lake Braddock. Their coaching staff led by Bruce Hansen is ome of the best in Northern VA.


Yeah, people say that Coach Lewis ran a great program at Edison. I only mentioned "crazed's" alma mater (Yorkown) b/c of the speed showed vs. Friendship Collegiate in UMD's 7-on-7 final. PL 7-on-7 is not real FB, so I might checkout Yorktown-Hayfield this Fri. No disrespect to the D5s up here, but people from ER think mostly about SB b/c we tend to see them more at states. D5 is big in ER b/c schools are smaller, save for O.Smith, Salem, etc. So you have teams like Phoebus and Hampton doing pretty well. Here in NR, you are lucky b/c you can see good D6 FB every week and also teams like SB in D5.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Crazed ()
Date: September 18, 2012 07:08AM

stone bridge and edison deserve there credit. But yorktown has been among the top teams in D5 since 1988 in the NR. a couple of 500 seasons thrown in there. I can think of plenty of people that would call in dominance. 100 wins the last 12 years.



Dominant? Wrote:
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> Cool the jets there broseph. Yorktown has been
> good in D5 for years, but dominant isn't the word
> you are looking for. Save for a few exceptions, D5
> has been owned by SBridge for almost a decade -
> Yorktown wasn't even the most dominant team in
> their own district when Vaughn Lewis was coaching
> at Edison.
>
> crazed Wrote:
> > Thanks for mentioning my Alma mater. Yorktown
> has
> > been dominant in D5 for years. I only wish we
> had
> > the enrollment of a Robinson or a Lake Braddock.
>
> > Their coaching staff led by Bruce Hansen is
> some
> > of the best in Northern VA.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Puh-leeze ()
Date: September 18, 2012 07:17AM

Ever see video of South Koreans on driving ranges? they whack the hell out of buckets and buckets and buckets and buckets of balls, but they have never actually been on golf course because golf courses are too few and far between over there.

That's what 7-on-7 passing leagues are like. Want to teach your quarterback to throw little dink and dunk passes through passing lanes that will be clogged with Defensive lineman when real football starts? 7-on-7 is for you. Want to have your quarterback learn to wait that extra second that is NOT going to be there during real football, 7-on-7 is the way to go.

If anything, it may help your DBs with their timing, but to equate 7-on-7 success with gametime success is a joke.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Yeah, not really ()
Date: September 18, 2012 12:31PM

Crazed Wrote:
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> stone bridge and edison deserve there credit. But
> yorktown has been among the top teams in D5 since
> 1988 in the NR. a couple of 500 seasons thrown in
> there. I can think of plenty of people that would
> call in dominance. 100 wins the last 12 years.
>

How many Northern Region titles have they won in this 12 year period of dominance?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Crazed ()
Date: September 18, 2012 01:33PM

no argument



Yeah, not really Wrote:
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> Crazed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > stone bridge and edison deserve there credit.
> But
> > yorktown has been among the top teams in D5
> since
> > 1988 in the NR. a couple of 500 seasons thrown
> in
> > there. I can think of plenty of people that
> would
> > call in dominance. 100 wins the last 12 years.
> >
>
> How many Northern Region titles have they won in
> this 12 year period of dominance?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: September 18, 2012 04:16PM

Puh-leeze Wrote:
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> Ever see video of South Koreans on driving ranges?
> they whack the hell out of buckets and buckets and
> buckets and buckets of balls, but they have never
> actually been on golf course because golf courses
> are too few and far between over there.
>
> That's what 7-on-7 passing leagues are like. Want
> to teach your quarterback to throw little dink and
> dunk passes through passing lanes that will be
> clogged with Defensive lineman when real football
> starts? 7-on-7 is for you. Want to have your
> quarterback learn to wait that extra second that
> is NOT going to be there during real football,
> 7-on-7 is the way to go.
>
> If anything, it may help your DBs with their
> timing, but to equate 7-on-7 success with gametime
> success is a joke.

Puh-leeze, NOTHING predicts gametime success well except gametime success. Rank on PL all you want, but FB practices, drills and scrimmages don't predict well, either. A recent example is how W'field is 3-0 and looking good despite losing ta scrimmage to DeMatha 52-6. http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/dematha-in-mid-season-form-against-westfield/2012/08/18/5ca642dc-e943-11e1-a3d2-2a05679928ef_video.html. While you were watching S. Korean golf, maybe you didn't notice that the winners of every major PL tourney (UVA, UMD, GC and Coolidge) have good FB programs: GC, Friendship Collegiate, Kenton Academy (OH), etc. As for the D-lineman missing from PL, they get trapped by smart teams who do more than just base block. Plus, they clog the passing lanes a lot less vs. teams who force D's to play the entire field with posts, go's, wheels, outs and unders. Want examples? See the D6 and D5 title games last year: O. Smith 47, C'Ville 21; Phoebus 20, SoCo 10. Again, nothing predicts gametime success except gametime success--not PL or anything else.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Minor Nit Pick ()
Date: September 18, 2012 08:14PM

EasternVaFan Wrote:
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Kenton Academy (OH)

Just a minor nit-pick, Kenton is not an academy, but a small public school. They sported the Mauk brothers at QB over the last few years (one went to Cincinnati and the other went to Mizzou).

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: September 18, 2012 09:16PM

Wow, it figures that Kenton has a passing tradition. We saw them beat Friendship Collegiate in the nat'l championship at Coolidge. Their O was disciplined and the D was physical. I was there with somebody who plays at South Carolina; we both were surprised at a few of the hits. One Friendship kid got ejected for one and shortly after that an LB for Kenton just leveled a Friendship receiver.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NVFBfan ()
Date: September 19, 2012 10:09AM

How great is the matchup this Friday at West Potomac. The Hendersons come back to WP with WP 3-0 and LB 1-2! I believe that WP will make them 1-3 and have the final laugh. If you are a WP player you gotta get jacked for this game! Look for QB Hendo to get dirty as WP plants him on his old Home field. The current WP Coach seems to be a good Coach and is I am sure downplaying the Hendo thing, BUT Come On! Their Dad had not even left the building after getting Fired and they were already attending classes at LB.

Man I hope WP puts a whoopin on them Bruins

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 19, 2012 01:15PM

NVFBfan Wrote:
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> How great is the matchup this Friday at West
> Potomac. The Hendersons come back to WP with WP
> 3-0 and LB 1-2! I believe that WP will make them
> 1-3 and have the final laugh. If you are a WP
> player you gotta get jacked for this game! Look
> for QB Hendo to get dirty as WP plants him on his
> old Home field. The current WP Coach seems to be
> a good Coach and is I am sure downplaying the
> Hendo thing, BUT Come On! Their Dad had not even
> left the building after getting Fired and they
> were already attending classes at LB.
>
> Man I hope WP puts a whoopin on them Bruins


Wow, that is a great game. Good for West Po still playing good football. I know a lot of people including myself thought they would fall off a lot. I just can't imagine how good they would have been if Henderson stayed at qb.

Another good game this week is Chantilly's homecoming against West Springfield. West Springfield is averaging a 24 point victory and is 3-0, I'm curious to see how they will do against Chantilly after going up 24-0 against Robinson a couple weeks ago at the half. I don't think anyone was expectingWest Springfield to come out of the gates the way they have.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 19, 2012 02:44PM

Here are the spreads for this week. A lot of great games. Should be one of the more competitive weeks early on in the season.

Annandale @ Oakton (-20.0)
Centreville (-24.0) @ Herndon
Edison (-7.0) @ Falls Church
Jefferson (-9.5) @ Stuart
Lake Braddock @ West Potomac (-6.5)
Lee (-18.5) @ WT Woodson
Marshall @ Langley (-31.0)
Mclean @ Madison (-6.5)
Mount Vernon (-14.0) @ Washington Lee
Robinson @ Westfield (-20.0)
South Lakes @ Fairfax (-7.0)
Stone Bridge (-28.5) @ Broad Run
West Springfield (-3.0) @ Chantilly
Yorktown (-13.0) @ Hayfield
South County (-6.0) @ TC Williams

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: September 19, 2012 05:30PM

EasternVaFan Wrote:
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>
> Yeah, people say that Coach Lewis ran a great
> program at Edison. I only mentioned "crazed's"
> alma mater (Yorkown) b/c of the speed showed vs.
> Friendship Collegiate in UMD's 7-on-7 final. PL
> 7-on-7 is not real FB, so I might checkout
> Yorktown-Hayfield this Fri. No disrespect to the
> D5s up here, but people from ER think mostly about
> SB b/c we tend to see them more at states. D5 is
> big in ER b/c schools are smaller, save for
> O.Smith, Salem, etc. So you have teams like
> Phoebus and Hampton doing pretty well. Here in NR,
> you are lucky b/c you can see good D6 FB every
> week and also teams like SB in D5.


You want to see the best rivalry in NR? CVille vs Wfield on Oct. 26. Both teams get up for this game, and it means everything to the students. It's gonna be a good game, and maybe some revenge given by Wfield for last years loss in NR Championship?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: September 19, 2012 05:35PM

Anyone care to think how good WP would be if Henderson stayed?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: September 19, 2012 06:35PM

Thanks, NR Fan. I saw C'Ville make a lot of good plays at UVA vs. O. Smith last yea. The score was misleading and would been a lot of closer if C'Ville's star hadn't gotten hurt early. You are lucky up here to have so much depth in D6. I'll def go to W'field-C'ville and will plan to get there early based on your post. I was thinking of seeing WestPo this weekend since they are doing well but am probably going to head to D5 Yorktown-Hayfield Fri. and try to check out Westpo the next week.


NR Fan Wrote:
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> EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Yeah, people say that Coach Lewis ran a great
> > program at Edison. I only mentioned "crazed's"
> > alma mater (Yorkown) b/c of the speed showed
> vs.
> > Friendship Collegiate in UMD's 7-on-7 final. PL
> > 7-on-7 is not real FB, so I might checkout
> > Yorktown-Hayfield this Fri. No disrespect to
> the
> > D5s up here, but people from ER think mostly
> about
> > SB b/c we tend to see them more at states. D5
> is
> > big in ER b/c schools are smaller, save for
> > O.Smith, Salem, etc. So you have teams like
> > Phoebus and Hampton doing pretty well. Here in
> NR,
> > you are lucky b/c you can see good D6 FB every
> > week and also teams like SB in D5.
>
>
> You want to see the best rivalry in NR? CVille vs
> Wfield on Oct. 26. Both teams get up for this
> game, and it means everything to the students.
> It's gonna be a good game, and maybe some revenge
> given by Wfield for last years loss in NR
> Championship?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Realist ()
Date: September 19, 2012 11:08PM

Westfield will trounce Centreville this year. Trust me I've seen them both. Almost every year Westfield-Chantilly is a much better game. Last year Centreville had a real special team, but this year neither Chantilly nor Centreville will give Westfield a game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Puh-Leeze ()
Date: September 20, 2012 08:08AM

NR Fan Wrote:
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> Anyone care to think how good WP would be if
> Henderson stayed?


Which Henderson? the QB, would have helped. The LB and the Dad? Not so much.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 20, 2012 08:49AM

I'm sure that's what he was talking about, just the qb.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: nat4lee ()
Date: September 20, 2012 10:06AM

For the past couple years now, I've been putting together a weekly guide to the varsity football playoffs during the season for friends at a few local schools my family is at, namely Edison, Hayfield and Lee. The sports boosters said they liked it, but they have to be equally supportive of all of the school teams. Yesterday, my brother told me I should ask if anyone would be interested in the local community, and this was the only place I know of to reach the high school football fans. If anyone would like, I would gladly send them a .pdf or .docx of my guide if they send an e-mail to me at ncareylee@gmail.com.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Ft Hunter ()
Date: September 20, 2012 12:25PM

Lets all be honest here about WP. I am a local community person and a FHHS grad. Say what you want about Henderson the coach the bottom line here is that the kids playing now are talented. Especially Pearsen-El. The seniors now they were coached up right for there 3 years in HS. Henderon took a bunch of so so kids and made a really good team over the years. Truth is the new coach inhereted this talent and they were all coached up by the former coach. The new coach he is enjoying the hype of another coaches hard work. Happens all the time. Dont get me wrong the new coach he might be good but only time will tell. I do think that the game will be a good one tomorrow!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 20, 2012 12:36PM

Ft Hunter Wrote:
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> Lets all be honest here about WP. I am a local
> community person and a FHHS grad. Say what you
> want about Henderson the coach the bottom line
> here is that the kids playing now are talented.
> Especially Pearsen-El. The seniors now they were
> coached up right for there 3 years in HS. Henderon
> took a bunch of so so kids and made a really good
> team over the years. Truth is the new coach
> inhereted this talent and they were all coached up
> by the former coach. The new coach he is enjoying
> the hype of another coaches hard work. Happens
> all the time. Dont get me wrong the new coach he
> might be good but only time will tell. I do
> think that the game will be a good one tomorrow!


Yeah, okay Mr. Henderson. The new coaching staff has totally changed the offensive schemes and what program that wins doesn't have talented players? To give Coach Henderson credit seems a little bullish to me.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Puh-Leeze ()
Date: September 21, 2012 07:42AM

I'm also "in the community." The only thing that has carried over from Henderson's regime is the players still dress in the same locker room and play on the same field. And maybe a bag of footballs. That's it. Some fo the differences? Probably too many to list here, but here goes: The fact that WP has a D1 kicker that can hit 50 yard FGs was never an issue with the spread offense guys, they thought they could score at will from anyplace on the field. This year, that kicker is seen as an offensive weapon. Players -- ALL players -- are being held accountable for the first time in years. There is discipline on this team that has not been seen in years. Check out the number of penalties last week against South County if you want proof. Against Centreville, the game was won thanks to an EIGHT MINUTE DRIVE, something that the former spread offense couldn't achieve vs. a scout team in practice, let alone a state finalist team.

This team is in a far better place -- and in far better hands -- with Jeremiah Davis at the helm.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NVFBfan ()
Date: September 21, 2012 07:52AM

NR Realist Wrote:
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> Westfield will trounce Centreville this year.
> Trust me I've seen them both. Almost every year
> Westfield-Chantilly is a much better game. Last
> year Centreville had a real special team, but this
> year neither Chantilly nor Centreville will give
> Westfield a game.


Keep thinking that and it will only be sweeter when Cville beats Westfield this year. Westfield is very good, BUT this is a rivalry game and strange things happen during these type of games. These games are a blast to go to just for the excitement they generate for the kids and community.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NVFBfan ()
Date: September 21, 2012 07:58AM

NR Fan Wrote:
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> Anyone care to think how good WP would be if
> Henderson stayed?


That is the point! They are better without the Henderson kid! They are now a team! Coach Hendo was out to highlight his kid and anything else be damned. Should be a great game tonight! if West PO can get Pierson-El loose it will be a long night for LB.

And by the way the QB there now is pretty good, much better runner than Hendo. Throws a nice ball as well

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: You're a poop head ()
Date: September 21, 2012 10:37PM

Sure, they're a much better team. That much better team just lost to lake Braddock.
Suck it trebek.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Tonight's Scores ()
Date: September 21, 2012 10:53PM

Other Scores...

Robinson 21 @ Westfield 24 (first sign that Westfield can beat beat)

Yorktown 17 @ hayfield 10

West Springfield 14 @ Chantilly 49 (huge win for the Chargers against an unbeaten West Springfield)

Centreville 14 @ Herndon 0 (not sure why Centreville couldn't score)

Lake Braddock 37 @ West Po 23

Marshall 8 @ Langley 58 (58-0 at the HALF, Marshall is really struggling)

Stone Bridge 37 @ Broad Run 14

Annandale 7 @ Oakton 45

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WestPo game ()
Date: September 21, 2012 10:56PM

Hmmm...saw the LB QB throw tonight.

Is anyone impressed with the way he goes downfield with the ball? Sure, he had good touch on the 10-15 yard swing passes, but as far as going downfield with a 20-25 yard strike...

Plus, great weather tonight, and plenty of time to wing it.

Not so sure what the hype is.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Westfield Fan ()
Date: September 21, 2012 11:09PM

I've seen Henderson play Westfield and Centreville this year, and Westfield twice last year when he was at West Po as a sophmore. I can say I am thoroughly impressed with his throwing ability and his deep ball. He is the best qb I've seen in the last several years and better than Nebrich (Nebrich had a much better team) in my opinion although that's up for debate.

Henderson is a lock as a D1 Qb and there was a reason he was rated in every list as a top sophmore qb nationaly last year. His deep ball is spot on, not sure how he looked tonight but the numbers were solid and this is coming from a Westfield fan. He's the real deal.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR fan ()
Date: September 22, 2012 12:54AM

LB was flat out better tonight. No weather excuses,
that is bullshit. LB Defense held Pierson -El to minimal
yards. LB QB is legit. It was a great game and the
better team won.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: September 22, 2012 12:55AM

Tilly destroyed Sparty in the second half. If Chantilly could figure out how to put a full 48 minutes together they could be dangerous.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: running back nigger ()
Date: September 22, 2012 12:57AM

this year is al about freedom hs in south riding va nigguhs, we da best team out der diz yer. we all smoked hella weed diz summa n bulked the fuck up nigguhs. we be beatin nigguhs like it be da job o da minute ya hurd what we reppin nukka beans. woof woof we da pack ...we bring it back up in yo face wack jack holla back niggity nack wack

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: September 22, 2012 01:09AM

I hear the Westfield QB is good and outplayed Henderson.....any other input on this?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: snoopy ()
Date: September 22, 2012 01:19AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/lake-braddocks-caleb-henderson-is-locked-in-leads-win-over-former-team-west-potomac/2012/09/22/b331587c-0436-11e2-8102-ebee9c66e190_story.html

Hey WestPo game, yeah you're right. What's the hype? You are a moron. See link above. And while you're stewing in your idiotic theories, you should ask your friends Puh-Leeze and NVFB fan how that big piece of HUMBLE PIE tastes?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: lord jabu jabu ()
Date: September 22, 2012 01:32AM

NVFBfan Wrote:
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> NR Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----

>
> And by the way the QB there now is pretty good,
> much better runner than Hendo. Throws a nice ball
> as well


haha Henderson had more rushing yards then WP had total offene... oh and also threw for over 200!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 22, 2012 09:45AM

Mullins has a much better team around him. He is pretty good and a pleasent suprise, but no where near Caleb Henderson talent wise.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: other scores ()
Date: September 22, 2012 09:56AM

Edison 33 @ Falls Church 27

Mclean 6 @ Madison 29

Mount Vernon 20 @ W&L 41

South Lakes 15 @ Fairfax 31

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Duke ()
Date: September 22, 2012 02:09PM

Edison and Falls Church played into overtime. Either Edison is not that good or Falls Church has gotten a lot better.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Fred ()
Date: September 22, 2012 02:40PM

TJ 42 @ Jeb Stuart 0

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 22, 2012 03:56PM

Duke Wrote:
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> Edison and Falls Church played into overtime.
> Either Edison is not that good or Falls Church has
> gotten a lot better.


Falls Church is better than in years past, but both Edison and Falls Church are amongst the weakest in the county so no real suprise last night.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: soco ()
Date: September 22, 2012 04:13PM

South County 60
TC Williams 28

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Pissed off Cav ()
Date: September 22, 2012 04:21PM

We are now 0- 4. it's looking more and more like we will go 0-10. We were 2-8 last year. At what point does WTW admin get rid of our shitty coaches? There won't be enough players to field a team after this coaching staff is done destroying everything that Coach Taylor built.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: the truth about woodson ()
Date: September 22, 2012 07:22PM

Coach Taylor is 5-10 at Robinson, he's busy destroying his own program although props for their battle against Westfield last night.

Woodson's lack of players is destroying the program, the play calling has gotten better. It's like all average schools though, talent comes in waves, you guys won't be bad forever.

Be mad at the scheduling, you guys have no business playing Chantilly or Oakton.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Woodson ()
Date: September 22, 2012 08:42PM

Woodson excels in basketball almost every year. That tells me they have talent walking in the hallways. When rich Rodriguez took over West Virginia he didn't make excuses that he had to play top talent and didn't have a lot of talent. He saw talent on the basketball court, recruited those kids, and introduced the spread offense at West Virginia. All I've heard on this site for two years is excuses from the coaches who post on here. How about stepping up and taking some responsibility. They had a few great offensive coaches there last year who left because they wanted to run a better offense that would work. All of them are successful at their new jobs this year. Their head coach has been a defensive coordinator for years and now calls the offense in what is arguably the absolute worse offense in all of Virginia. The d coordinator was terrible at Madison and now woodsons defense is terrible and Madison is suddenly pretty decent. I predict they win one game and the head coach resigns

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: the truth about woodson ()
Date: September 22, 2012 10:49PM

I know Dishun, I guarentee he won't resign. He's a good guy in a terrible situation and every coach deserves 3 year to get a program off the ground as long as he is running the program ethically.

Your West Virginia argument is flawed considering Woodson's basketball team does not have that much speed other than Bowles, I doubt they'd make a difference, maybe 2 position players at most (then Rich Rod tried the same approach at Michigan and got destroyed). Second, most good basketball players in the region do not play football, sure there are several that do, but most don't want to risk injury, esspecially if the football team is terrible. It's one thing to play both sports at Westfield but why risk a shot at college basketball to play for a 2 win football team? If I'm a parent or coach I'm in my kid's ear discouraging it.

Now none of us are practicing with the team so you or I really can't comment on how the team is being coached. Players are going to come on here and whine like cowards to justify their sucking as a coach problem and not accepting the fact there is no talent on that team.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: the truth about woodson ()
Date: September 22, 2012 10:51PM

I shouldn't say no talent, but a lack of it to be competitive against any of the better teams.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 23, 2012 09:37AM

Here are some of the spreads for week 5.

Broad Run (-17.0) @ Herndon
Chantilly (-35.0) @ Edison
Fairfax @ Westfield (-35.0)
Falls Church @ Mount Vernon (-7.0)
Hayfield @ Centreville (-6.0)
Madison @ Langley (-6.5)
Mclean (-21.0) @ Marshall
Oakton (-13.0) @ Lee
South County @ Robinson (-7.0)
Woodson @ West Springfield (-21.0)
West Potomac (-24.0) @ Annandale
TC Williams @ Lake Braddock (-27.0)
TC Williams @ Lake Braddock (-27.0)
Stuart @ Yorktown (-28.0)
Stone Bridge (-24.0) @ Jefferson

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Sportsmanlike Conduct ()
Date: September 23, 2012 10:24AM

I was at the west Po game this week and was really surprised that our (WP) coaches didn't get in the handshake line after the game. Sure, this was a charged game for a lot of reasons, but at the end of the day it's about the kids.

Our coaches showed a total lack of maturity by not shaking the players and coaches hands after the game. Shame on you.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cavs ()
Date: September 23, 2012 01:11PM

You have no idea what you're talking about if u say the play calls have gotten better. We threw 5 times against Lee. And we completed most if them. The ones we didn't complete led to pi's being called. We could've passed on them all game. But since coach is obsessed with 1940s football we didn't change things up at all. As usual. And please spare me the crap about talent. In not saying we should be winning 7 games, but we should be winning more than we have since he's been here. That team that he coached to 2 wins last year had like 6 or 7 D2 and D3 players on it. This team was up on Madison at halftime and shouldve killed Lee. Instead we are 0-4. Terrible offensive play calling. He was brought here to run the D! Instead he hands the D to that bum coach from Madison who can't coach a lick. And coach d runs the offense?! Makes no sense. And don't compare this bum to Coach Taylor. Coach Taylor had wtw football winning. He took over Robinson at a time when they have no talent and he still has them co
Competing every game. Look at their scores. That's when it's okay to lose. Wtw gets blown out almost every friggin weak. Fire Dishun! Bring back Coach Gull!!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: cocomoco ()
Date: September 23, 2012 04:32PM

WP coaches acting like children? This must be the accountability and discipline that Puh Leeze speaks of!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Puh-Leeds ()
Date: September 23, 2012 04:40PM

First of all, coaches often have their own handshake line next to the players. Pay attention next time.

Second, ask coach henderson what his reaction was to coach Davis saying "good game" repeated twice. I'd type it here but there is no Gutteral Grunt font on this board.


West Potomac lost with way more class than LB had winning it.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: the truth about woodson football ()
Date: September 23, 2012 05:07PM

Robinson no talent? They were predicted to contend for the district title when Coach Taylor took over last year. Your ignorant, but whatever, done arguing about Woodson football. Enjoy watching your D2 and D3 players lose every week!

Oh and by the way, it was a 3-7 team under Taylor before Dishun got there, the talent well had run dry.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Friday night ()
Date: September 23, 2012 06:46PM

Oh yeah, that special handshake line for WP coaches?, But it was missing a couple WP coaches who were too childish to face the loss or the former coach. Pay attention to that detail next time.

It was the players who showed class on the field by hugging their former classmates. Players from both the winning and losing teams.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Pub-leeze ()
Date: September 23, 2012 08:58PM

Friday night Wrote:
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> Oh yeah, that special handshake line for WP
> coaches?, But it was missing a couple WP coaches
> who were too childish to face the loss or the
> former coach. Pay attention to that detail next
> time.
>
> It was the players who showed class on the field
> by hugging their former classmates. Players from
> both the winning and losing teams.

Wrong again. What you saw were 2 freshman coaches that were on the sidelines, but were not coaching the game. One of them had already talked to the former coach the night before, the other one doesnt even know the former coach.
As soon as the final whistle blows, they set about rounding things up on the sidelines. And it has happened that way for at least the last 4 years, If you had been paying attention.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cav parent ()
Date: September 23, 2012 09:59PM

Is that you Dishun?! Only Dishun or another idiot coach on that team would defend the product that they've put out there the last 2 yrs. the team will be 0-10 this yr. last yr it was 2-8. This guy is a clown and can't coach. To make matte worse he is t a leader. I've seen mannequins with more presence. Pathetic. He will be fired after this year. Thank heavens.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: poo lez ()
Date: September 23, 2012 10:58PM

I saw Coach Henderson do one of those "high five... OOPS you missed" deals with Coach Davis. It was followed by the slide the hand through your hair move. Davis wiffed like a champ. He found it not so humorous and his follow through was so awkward that it made many of his own players chuckle.

Henderson just kept walking on to the next set of coaches where they were not so trusting of his outstretched hand. But slowly they all did take it making a physical connection that magically bridged the future to the past in a long awaited act of closure. Davis ignored the event for a few minutes before shaking off the embarrassment and getting back to what matters. INSTALLING DISCIPLINE IN THOSE KIDS!

I saw all the kids leave the field exactly how they were supposed to.

So Coach Davis got the last laugh!

UPDATE:
The coaches on the pressbox continue to be absent from the handshake line, a search party as returned empty "handed".

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: hangin on de-fence ()
Date: September 24, 2012 07:47AM

Those 2 coaches in the WP pressbox did not have the balls to own the loss and should have gone to that very special WP coaches line to shake hands. They acted like temper tantrum 2 year olds showing there "accountability and discipline" for all to witness.

Bad to represent WP that way. But even worse to set that kind of example for the players.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NVFBfan ()
Date: September 24, 2012 02:47PM

poo lez Wrote:
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> I saw Coach Henderson do one of those "high
> five... OOPS you missed" deals with Coach Davis.
> It was followed by the slide the hand through your
> hair move. Davis wiffed like a champ. He found
> it not so humorous and his follow through was so
> awkward that it made many of his own players
> chuckle.
>
> Henderson just kept walking on to the next set of
> coaches where they were not so trusting of his
> outstretched hand. But slowly they all did take
> it making a physical connection that magically
> bridged the future to the past in a long awaited
> act of closure. Davis ignored the event for a few
> minutes before shaking off the embarrassment and
> getting back to what matters. INSTALLING
> DISCIPLINE IN THOSE KIDS!
>
> I saw all the kids leave the field exactly how
> they were supposed to.
>
> So Coach Davis got the last laugh!
>
> UPDATE:
> The coaches on the pressbox continue to be absent
> from the handshake line, a search party as
> returned empty "handed".


All you need to know about the "class" from LB is the way they handled the last drive where they scored with 7 seconds left in the game. West Po showed class by not blowing some kids knee out on the following kickoff.

LB and specifically Proythress has absolutely NO CLASS. They are the biggest bunch of trash talkers and bitches in the Northern Region. They lose with no class and they win with less. I saw the replay of the game and everyone of the West Po coaches was in the coaches line shaking hands with the LB coaches, so I don't know where the poster who said that got his info. LB will implode before the year is out, mark my words. They have a bunch of talent that cares about their talent. They are NO team. 2-2 right now and they will beat up on their cupcake district and make the playoffs. They will make no noise in the Playoffs, except to complain and bitch about something.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Rebel ()
Date: September 24, 2012 07:31PM

Upset this week Fairfax 24 Westfield 17

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Reball ()
Date: September 24, 2012 08:29PM

Surprise of the week, Fairfax will lose by less than 20.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Seriously? ()
Date: September 24, 2012 08:58PM

Rebel Wrote:
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> Upset this week Fairfax 24 Westfield 17

If Fairfax loses by less than 20 it would be an accomplishment.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Lee football parent ()
Date: September 24, 2012 09:46PM

Just someone please find out who called the kneel down one second before the half ended to turn over the ball and give our Lee boys a shot at a FG. That was brilliant.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: duder ()
Date: September 25, 2012 01:23PM

Upsets for this week.

Hayfield over Cntrville
Falls Church over Mt. Vernon

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Wet Taint ()
Date: September 25, 2012 01:52PM

Is Falls Church over Mount Vernon really an upset?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cav Parent ()
Date: September 25, 2012 08:09PM

Yeah, where are the Dishun defenders now? Wtw took a knee with 3 seconds left in in the half on their own 20 on 4th down. Gave Lee a shot at a Fg with a second left. That one play tells you the kind if genius WTW has as a head coach. Unbelievable. That entire staff needs to go. Lets get done peewee league guys in there. Can't get worse.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: strategy ()
Date: September 26, 2012 11:17AM

look, WTW had been working on field goal block all week and was luring LEE to attempt a FG at the end of the half in hopes of blocking and running in the kick.

If it had worked you all would be impressed... well it didn't, not all good plans pan out exactly as you want them. You have to take some risks so get off Dishun's back!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Get Real ()
Date: September 26, 2012 01:38PM

I have a great idea. How about if all of the youth league coaches, 50 yd stadium boo birds and Sunday NFL dads who REALLY know how to work it apply to the school district and get themselves coaching on the field? This way EVERY team would win ALL of the time! They obviously have MUCH BETTER ideas and plans and schemes then the coaches who put in 100s of hours planning.

It is definitely better to coach from the field than it is to coach from Fairfax Underground. Much better vantage point.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Ridiculous ()
Date: September 26, 2012 01:40PM

strategy Wrote:
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> look, WTW had been working on field goal block all
> week and was luring LEE to attempt a FG at the end
> of the half in hopes of blocking and running in
> the kick.
>
> If it had worked you all would be impressed...
> well it didn't, not all good plans pan out exactly
> as you want them. You have to take some risks so
> get off Dishun's back!

Stupidest post EVER!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cavman ()
Date: September 26, 2012 02:42PM

You're kidding right? Did u not read what the WTW staff did? They took a knee on 4th down w a second left on the clock from their own 20. They handed points to the other team. If that is what comes from their 100s of planning hours then they need to quit. Plain and simple. Get a peewee coach in there ASAP. Fire WTWs entire football staff. Sure they won't win because the talent is subpar but at least a new coaching staff would teach the game correctly.








Get Real Wrote:
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> I have a great idea. How about if all of the
> youth league coaches, 50 yd stadium boo birds and
> Sunday NFL dads who REALLY know how to work it
> apply to the school district and get themselves
> coaching on the field? This way EVERY team would
> win ALL of the time! They obviously have MUCH
> BETTER ideas and plans and schemes then the
> coaches who put in 100s of hours planning.
>
> It is definitely better to coach from the field
> than it is to coach from Fairfax Underground.
> Much better vantage point.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Get Real ()
Date: September 26, 2012 03:07PM

Again, those 50yd stadium goggles you've got on give a you slightly different view of the field. You SEE only a portion of the entire scheme; 4 quarters on a Friday night. These coaches LIVE months of intense planning and strategy. Sometimes it pans out. Lots of times it doesn't. Seems to me that the solution is as simple as getting you past FCPS HR and giving you a whistle, clip board and a silk screened shirt. Try it out and get back to us with your rate of success. But until then back off.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: joe dirt ()
Date: September 26, 2012 04:02PM

Cavman Wrote:
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> You're kidding right? Did u not read what the WTW
> staff did? They took a knee on 4th down w a second
> left on the clock from their own 20. They handed
> points to the other team. If that is what comes
> from their 100s of planning hours then they need
> to quit. Plain and simple. Get a peewee coach in
> there ASAP. Fire WTWs entire football staff. Sure
> they won't win because the talent is subpar but at
> least a new coaching staff would teach the game
> correctly.
>

I don't have a kid at WTW or Lee but I wish I was there just to see it, it must have been a riot for anyone not cheering for WTW. The most likely logical explaination would be either the coach forgot it was forth down or he instructed his QB to dance around in the backfield for a second to run out the clock before taking a knee and the QB didn't execute the play.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Gil ()
Date: September 26, 2012 08:48PM

"Get Real" must be Dishun or another WTW coach. I was at the game and only an idiot would defend that call. They were in victory formation. Dishun called a kneel down. Pathetic. Not surprising. The guy isn't a head coach. Anyone who knows him would tell u that. And that D coorfinator needs to be working st a deli. totally clueless. best part about the whole game was at the end when the athletic director chewed out Dishun for yelling at the refs. What a mess over there at WTW.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: September 26, 2012 09:11PM

Who cares about WTW?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 27, 2012 09:18AM

The WTW athletic director is a clown. It's a mess over there with that program. I chalk it up more to a lack of talent than anything. Coach Dishun is not the problem despite being the scape goat by the parents.

As truth posted, Dishun inherited a weak program, 3-7 before he got there with most key players seniors. They probably won't win a game this year, but when scheduling Oakton and Chantilly they can't expect to win.

Enough about Woodson though, this is not a Woodson thread and it is drowning NR talk about real football.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FCPS EDUK8TR ()
Date: September 27, 2012 09:38AM

Good point, too much about woodson, but they are stuck with their idiot athletic director. I heard he applied for the Robinson job and didnt even get a second interview. What a joke.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NVFBfan ()
Date: September 27, 2012 10:34AM

FCPS EDUK8TR Wrote:
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> Good point, too much about woodson, but they are
> stuck with their idiot athletic director. I heard
> he applied for the Robinson job and didnt even get
> a second interview. What a joke.


If all these WTW posters would put as much effort to helping their football program as they do to posting here they would have to be better then the pathetic efforts I see on the field. Face it your Kids suck!!! You can blame the Coach all you want, but the reality is your kids have no talent and No heart! They have quit on more coaches than any other school in the Region. Get a new Coach and you will get the same result. NOW lets get back to talking about REAL football teams.... the Concorde District games are getting ready to start.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ReeAlignment ()
Date: September 27, 2012 10:39AM

The word is out on how the school districts will be re aligned. The biggest winner from what I can see is Centreville who will now pull from Hampton Chase and points West of Colchester Road. Fairfax is hosed!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: getalife ()
Date: September 27, 2012 11:58AM

Woodson DSA is a good man and definitely not the problem. It seems like the coach and players who are on the field actually doing the work and failing are the problem. Woodson seems to do fine in every other guy's sport such as basketball, wrestling, lacrosse, soccer and baseball. I guess since they excel in most of those sports we can give credit to the DSA also right???

Go to the VHSL website and you will see how the realignment of schools will work out and sorry but no new border changes are taking effect, not sure what idiot told you that lie. The districts are now going to be called conferences and schools will be arranged and lumped together based on population size and location. If anyone really benefits from this it will be Stone Bridge. Concorde will remain intact.

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Posted by: Ahmayzin ()
Date: September 27, 2012 12:08PM


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Date: September 27, 2012 12:11PM


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Re: High School Football
Posted by: blahblahblahblah ()
Date: September 27, 2012 12:13PM

getalife Wrote:
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> If anyone really benefits from this it will be Stone Bridge.

I would argue that with Stone Bridge in a new district with Briar Woods, Broad Run, and Tuscarora they may be entering into a much tougher district.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Morons ()
Date: September 27, 2012 01:33PM

The guy that keeps coming on here and defending the WTW coaches is obviously Dishun or Bianchi. Those two guys could lead the way to a picnic in their own back yard. No leadership qualities and to make things worse, no football IQ. Sad but true. The proof is out there now. There is nowhere for Dishun and company to hide after last weeks debacle when they kneeled on the ball on 4th down in their own territory with 2 seconds left on the clock. Pure idiocy. Good luck blaming the kids for that blunder that even pewee coaches don't make. The DSA is not the problem here. He isn't perfect but he is not the problem when it comes to football. Losing is one thing but under Dishun they haven't even been competitive. That 3-7 season before Dishun got there they were at least competitive in va handful of games. Big difference. Fire Dishun fire Bianchi.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 29, 2012 11:03AM

Woodson has played 2 good games in a row. They were no where near a West Springfield talentwise yet hung in there until the end losing 14-10. West Springfield is the same team that won 3 of its 4 games by 20+ including smashing Robinson.

Job well done Cavs!

Now other scores in the region
Broad Run over Herndon 37-7 (Herndon falls to 0-5, likely a 0-10 season for them)

Chantilly over Edison 48-25 (Chantilly fell behind 13-0 and then smoked them as they should. Sets up a great Chantilly-Westfield Battle of Chantilly next week. Chantilly has a doozy though with undefeated Westfield followed by undefeated Oakton.)

Westfield over Fairfax 35-3 (expected and 5-0, now they play 4-1 Chantilly)

Mount Vernon 34, Falls Church 12 (very disappointing for FC)

Centreville 17-16 over Hayfield (Hayfield robbed, watched the video and they scored the winning 2pt conversion in ot)

Madison 24-21 over Langley (Madision is going back to the playoffs it looks like, very big win after an impressive one at Hayfield)

Mclean over Marshall 42-6

Oakton over Lee 42-0 (they're legit)

Robinson over South County 53-23, impressive night for the Rams, Wilson scored 6tds!

Stone Bridge over Jefferson 42-7, for them TJ battled hard

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: to steve k2 ()
Date: September 29, 2012 11:20AM

Falls Church's starting QB was out.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 29, 2012 10:09PM

@ steve k2

Been enjoying your posts.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: September 30, 2012 07:55AM

Lee's starting RB (Jolley) was out. As dominating as Oakton's score appeared, I don't see them winning the Concorde. They can't pass the ball past 10 yards and when they run into their Concorde schedule they are going to have to deal with teams that have the personnel to spy Downer and Wandey.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: More Random than Dude ()
Date: September 30, 2012 10:28AM

C'mon now the score does not "appear" dominating, it IS dominating. Excuses are weak. As was stated all along, 7v7 are an indication of nothing. RELHS needs to stop their celebrating and start working on defensive plan that is something other than laughable. Allowing 42 points is an embarrassment to us all.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Woooo ()
Date: September 30, 2012 11:16AM

Is Lee that bad???? If so, how bad is that Woodson team who lost to lee last week. That entire WTW staff should probably be canned.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: More Random than Random ()
Date: September 30, 2012 11:56AM

I think what Dude was trying to say is that when Oakton runs into tougher competition in the Concorde, Oakton is going to run into trouble. Certainly didn't help that Jolley was out for Lee - they couldn't get anything accomplished offensively without him and the defense got worn out quick.

Maybe you can give him a pass since the weather was crap at Lee for the first half, but when Oakton went to the air Downer couldn't hit the broad side of a barn Friday night. If he can't improve his accuracy, teams like Westfield are going to go man-to-man on the outside and key in on the running game - and unlike Lee, teams like Westfield and Chantilly have the speed at LB to take on Oakton's rushing game.

More Random than Dude Wrote:
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> C'mon now the score does not "appear" dominating,
> it IS dominating. Excuses are weak. As was
> stated all along, 7v7 are an indication of
> nothing. RELHS needs to stop their celebrating
> and start working on defensive plan that is
> something other than laughable. Allowing 42 points
> is an embarrassment to us all.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: random as random gets ()
Date: September 30, 2012 01:05PM

If you guys have not been following Oakton all year let me fill you in. Oakton lost its two stating receivers in preseason. Ryan Ladson and Andy Boone were forced to come over and fill the voids left on offense. They have seemed to struggle to pick the offense up so far. In every game I have been to so far there always seems to be 3 + drops (with the exception of Woodson). The passing game will be fine the Oakton coaches seem to be too trigger happy and like going over the top too much

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: RealWTW ()
Date: September 30, 2012 08:13PM

Morons Wrote:
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> The guy that keeps coming on here and defending
> the WTW coaches is obviously Dishun or Bianchi.
> Those two guys could lead the way to a picnic in
> their own back yard. No leadership qualities and
> to make things worse, no football IQ. Sad but
> true. The proof is out there now. There is nowhere
> for Dishun and company to hide after last weeks
> debacle when they kneeled on the ball on 4th down
> in their own territory with 2 seconds left on the
> clock. Pure idiocy. Good luck blaming the kids for
> that blunder that even pewee coaches don't make.
> The DSA is not the problem here. He isn't perfect
> but he is not the problem when it comes to
> football. Losing is one thing but under Dishun
> they haven't even been competitive. That 3-7
> season before Dishun got there they were at least
> competitive in va handful of games. Big
> difference. Fire Dishun fire Bianchi.


Your kid sucks!! Quit blaming everyone else.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NVFBfan ()
Date: October 01, 2012 03:28PM

steve k2 Wrote:
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> Woodson has played 2 good games in a row. They
> were no where near a West Springfield talentwise
> yet hung in there until the end losing 14-10.
> West Springfield is the same team that won 3 of
> its 4 games by 20+ including smashing Robinson.

BOTH OF THESE TEAMS SUCK! IF WS MAKES PLAYOFFS THEY WILL LOSE FIRST ROUND
>
> Job well done Cavs!
>
> Now other scores in the region
> Broad Run over Herndon 37-7 (Herndon falls to 0-5,
> likely a 0-10 season for them)

SAME OLD HERNDON!! DAY SHOULD HAVE TAKEN MCLEAN JOB
>
> Chantilly over Edison 48-25 (Chantilly fell behind
> 13-0 and then smoked them as they should. Sets up
> a great Chantilly-Westfield Battle of Chantilly
> next week. Chantilly has a doozy though with
> undefeated Westfield followed by undefeated
> Oakton.)
>
CHANTILLY IS OVER RATED.... WILL GET KILLED BY WESTFIELD

> Westfield over Fairfax 35-3 (expected and 5-0, now
> they play 4-1 Chantilly)
>
> Mount Vernon 34, Falls Church 12 (very
> disappointing for FC)

WHO CARES?
>
> Centreville 17-16 over Hayfield (Hayfield robbed,
> watched the video and they scored the winning 2pt
> conversion in ot)

CENTREVILLE MAKES STUPID MISTAKES THAT KEEP GAMES CLOSED. HAYFIELD CAME NO WHERE CLOSE TO SCORING IN OT
>
> Madison 24-21 over Langley (Madision is going back
> to the playoffs it looks like, very big win after
> an impressive one at Hayfield)

MADISION SURPRISE TEAM OF THE YEAR!
>
> Mclean over Marshall 42-6
>
> Oakton over Lee 42-0 (they're legit)
NO THERE NOT!! HAVE NOT PLAYED ANYONE.... JUST LIKE LAST YEAR
>
> Robinson over South County 53-23, impressive night
> for the Rams, Wilson scored 6tds!

ROBINSON HAS BIG GAME AGAINST CVILLE THIS WEEK
>
> Stone Bridge over Jefferson 42-7, for them TJ
> battled hard

STONE BRIDGE IS THE REAL DEAL... WITH PHOEBUS IN TURMOIL COULD BE THEIR YEAR TO WIN STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. COULD BE THEIR LAST CHANCE

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WHS ()
Date: October 02, 2012 01:08PM

Looking forward to this years, backyard brawl! should be a good one, this will be my 6th time going to the regular season version of the backyard brawl, Lets get this done Westfield!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Woodson ()
Date: October 02, 2012 09:01PM

Prediction: Woodson will win their first and only game of the season this week during homecoming against TC Williams 14-13. Dishun will get the Gatorade celebration.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really??? ()
Date: October 02, 2012 09:04PM

the truth about woodson Wrote:
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> I know Dishun, I guarentee he won't resign. He's
> a good guy in a terrible situation and every coach
> deserves 3 year to get a program off the ground as
> long as he is running the program ethically.
>
> Your West Virginia argument is flawed considering
> Woodson's basketball team does not have that much
> speed other than Bowles, I doubt they'd make a
> difference, maybe 2 position players at most (then
> Rich Rod tried the same approach at Michigan and
> got destroyed). Second, most good basketball
> players in the region do not play football, sure
> there are several that do, but most don't want to
> risk injury, esspecially if the football team is
> terrible. It's one thing to play both sports at
> Westfield but why risk a shot at college
> basketball to play for a 2 win football team? If
> I'm a parent or coach I'm in my kid's ear
> discouraging it.
>
> Now none of us are practicing with the team so you
> or I really can't comment on how the team is being
> coached. Players are going to come on here and
> whine like cowards to justify their sucking as a
> coach problem and not accepting the fact there is
> no talent on that team.


West Virginia did not have speed when Rodriguez came there. He used 6'4" receivers to create mismatches against the defenses

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 02, 2012 11:18PM

They had plenty of speed. Regardless it was their qb Patrick White and hb Steve Slaton that were electrifying and turned around the program.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cavman ()
Date: October 03, 2012 09:15AM

Will you please give it up? Dishun is not a good head coach. 2-12 in a yr and a half and that is at a time when the district has been pretty weak. Watch him on the sidelines, watch the placalling on both sides of the ball. Not much needs to be said. Nice guy, bad head coach. That's all there is to it. You want proof, go watch WTW play. And if they lose to TC this sat they will go 0/10. So I wish him luck this week. Nobody wants to lose 18 games in 2 yrs. and only a bad coach would do that.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: enuff ()
Date: October 04, 2012 04:51PM

Cavman Wrote:
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> Will you please give it up? Dishun is not a good
> head coach. 2-12 in a yr and a half and that is at
> a time when the district has been pretty weak.
> Watch him on the sidelines, watch the placalling
> on both sides of the ball. Not much needs to be
> said. Nice guy, bad head coach. That's all there
> is to it. You want proof, go watch WTW play. And
> if they lose to TC this sat they will go 0/10. So
> I wish him luck this week. Nobody wants to lose 18
> games in 2 yrs. and only a bad coach would do
> that.


once again your kid sucks!! thats why WTW sucks! Quit blaming the Coach for your kids lack of talent. The next time you and the other parents are in the stands complaining about the Coach, take a look around and realize that it is all of your faults for producing these pussies. One, because you have no athletic ability and Second, for raising them as pussies and always blaming everyone but the kids!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Hire me ()
Date: October 06, 2012 06:10AM

I'll win with those kids. There is plenty of talent there to at least make each season competitive. Why bash these parents coaches? Take some responsibility or step down because I have a staff ready to come in and win with these kids

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: What....??? ()
Date: October 06, 2012 06:54AM

Hire Me....yeah right who are you then?? You talk a big game but I can't think of any coach in this area that really feels that is a good team and situation. Staff will be fired, no quality coach will interview.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Booster ()
Date: October 06, 2012 08:51AM

It's the parents fault that the play calling is unimaginative?! It's the parents fault that the head coach has no game mngmt skills? It's the parents fault that the head coach has no fire in his belly? It's the parents fault that the d coordinator from Madison who nobody else wanted is the WTW d coordinator? It's the parents fault that whenever coach D does get fired he will NEVER be a head coach ever again? It's the parents fault that a lot of assistants ran away from the program last year? It's the parents fault that the coaching staff helps other teams score last second field goals before halftime? It's the parents fault that WTW is in the middle of a 2-12 stretch that will probably end up 2-18 or 3-17 at best? It's the parents fault that these last 2 yrs are the worst 2 yrs at WTW football in 20 yrs?

You can blame parents for a lot, but be a man and admit that you and your staff are not cutout for the job and move on. Bring Coach Gull back and watch this program get on track again. By that I mean watch them at least win 3 or 4 for Christ sake.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KingConcorde ()
Date: October 06, 2012 09:38AM

When did this become WTW HS football board....please stop.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Nighthawk ()
Date: October 06, 2012 12:20PM

Great game last night at Robinson. Robinson "upsets" Centreville, 28-21 in overtime. Joe Wilson gets hurt in the first half but keeps right on rolling. 238 yards, 4 touchdowns. 21 rushing touchdowns on the year and 1427 yards in 6 games. Throw in 1 receiving TD as well.

Big game against Henderson and Lake Braddock next week. Robinson's pass defense is lacking not to mention their special teams. They're the Redskins of the Northern region.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: At the game ()
Date: October 06, 2012 06:20PM

Saw the SoCo-Lake Braddock game last night. First opportunity I had to see Henderson since last season's WePo-Westfield game. I was a bit surprised at what I view as a lack of progression on his part. It seemed to me that he really hasn't grown as a QB from last season to this season - a bit erratic in his throwing, a couple of really bad passes on fade routes, and some poor decision making.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: god dammit ()
Date: October 07, 2012 12:44AM

I assume you are actually a LB coach or how else would you know he made bad decisions? Maybe the staff called a bad play?

But since Henderson led the offense to 500 yards total offense and that is about the same as against westfield I will agree he hasn't progressed much.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: PK4jm ()
Date: October 07, 2012 12:48AM

god dammit Wrote:
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> I assume you are actually a LB coach or how else
> would you know he made bad decisions? Maybe the
> staff called a bad play?
>
> But since Henderson led the offense to 500 yards
> total offense and that is about the same as
> against westfield I will agree he hasn't
> progressed much.


shhhhhhhh pedo man

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Well...
Posted by: Cavalier ()
Date: October 07, 2012 01:02AM

In case anyone is unaware, Woodson won today.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: TC Titan and realist on Woodson ()
Date: October 07, 2012 03:41AM

Fire the TC Williams Coaching Staff. How embarassing losing to Woodson. This team won their first game 73-0 against Wakefield (not saying much) and has lost every game since. Way too much talent for this embarassment to be happening. Good for Woodson though.

Oh and to the Cavs parent talking about blaming the parents, that's the stupidest post I've ever seen.



It's the parents fault that the head coach has no fire in his belly?
WTF is this.

It's the parents fault that the d coordinator from Madison who nobody else wanted is the WTW d coordinator?
How do you know who did or did not want him. You should be thanking him for taking the job with the terrible talent he has to coach 6 days a week.

It's the parents fault that a lot of assistants ran away from the program last year?
They ran away because your sons sucked and they didn't want to put in 6 days a week working hard with them for a 1 or 2 win season. In all actuality, you should be thanking the ones that stayed to ride the ship.

It's the parents fault that WTW is in the middle of a 2-12 stretch that will probably end up 2-18 or 3-17 at best? It's the parents fault that these last 2 yrs are the worst 2 yrs at WTW football in 20 yrs?
Yes IT IS! These are your sons that play like crap on the football field. The coaches did not raise them. They are whiners and I see where they get it from them. One of those seasons Dishun wasn't even here, they were 3-7, more to the point this bunch of kids is not good.

You can blame parents for a lot, but be a man and admit that you and your staff are not cutout for the job and move on. Bring Coach Gull back and watch this program get on track again. By that I mean watch them at least win 3 or 4 for Christ sake.
At the very best, Woodson is a 3 win team. They lost a couple 1 score games to better teams the last two weeks, nothing to put hteir heads down about. Glad for the boys and coaches they got a win this afternoon. It will probably be their only one, but a lot of people thought this was a 0 win team. I guess the season is a success.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NorthRegionFAN ()
Date: October 07, 2012 10:18AM

WTW FOOTBALL TALK..............ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Parents ()
Date: October 07, 2012 11:01AM

Coach Howells. We miss you...our kids miss you. Please consider applying if the job opens up. We know you would do well with these kids and you can bring in some quality people to help you. The boosters have your support. We know you have little ones at home...but we need someone like you with your positive attitude to turn this thing around. The kids miss you greatly!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Yeah, ok! ()
Date: October 07, 2012 12:55PM

Everyone thinks its funny that Howells would come on here and write a post about himself, the dude his hilarious.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SteelCurtain ()
Date: October 07, 2012 08:18PM

Anyone see the Westfield / Chantilly game Friday? Heard it was a good one

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 07, 2012 10:03PM

Chantilly and Westfield did play a great game. Westfield got the benefit of a questionable pass interference call on a 4th down play which set up their winning TD, but did deserve to win the game. For Chantilly, it was positive to see they could play with Westfield, it could be a playoff rematch at Westfield. Big win for the Bulldogs, but both programs have positive things to take away from the game.

The student sections were fantastic. The place was packed. I wish I played HS football in that kind of enviornment. The Westfield students were much louder though.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Parents ()
Date: October 08, 2012 12:28AM

I can't believe the WTW coaches keep coming on here. Go gameplan fellas. Spending too much time on this site defending yourselves instead of preparing for your opponents. No wonder you guys have won 3 games in 2 yrs.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: October 08, 2012 09:20AM

Normal Concorde district play. Everyone has a chance to beat everyone (except Herndon). Westfield is a bit above everyone else, but it will be tough for them to get out without a loss.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 08, 2012 10:30AM

It is typical Concorde and I agree Westfield is the top team. Westfield is far more beatable than last year though, which looking at the early season scores I wasn't sure of. The good news though for them, is there is not a team like Centreville standing in their way that is as good as they are.

Come playoff time though, they can be beat by Chantilly or Oakton. Them versus West Potomac this week should also be a great game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: who wins ()
Date: October 08, 2012 12:40PM

Chantilly vs. Oakton this week (Oakton's HC). Who wins?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NorthRegionFan ()
Date: October 08, 2012 02:03PM

Will be very interesting to see who wins Chantilly Oakton. Chantilly gave Westfield a very tough time the other night and there loss to Stone Bridge is nothing to feel bad about. Oakton hasn't played anyone decent so far. I think this is another very close game and I will give the slight edge to Chantilly.

Westfield / W. Potomac will be a good game as well and Westfield has to be careful not to let their guard down after such an emotional win.

The Concorde is tough sledding....

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Ahmayzin ()
Date: October 08, 2012 02:16PM

South lakes lost to Mclean 5-0 which now puts Mclean at 4-2. 5-0? Defensive coaching was great.....piss poor offensive coaching...I hope that jackass gets fired.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SL Baller ()
Date: October 08, 2012 02:24PM

5-0? Damn SL couldn't score against McLean? Is McLeans Defense legit? Sounds like a boring game!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KingConcorde ()
Date: October 09, 2012 07:37AM

Who's going to win in Chantilly / Oakton matchup?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Ahmayzin ()
Date: October 09, 2012 09:59AM

SL Baller Wrote:
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> 5-0? Damn SL couldn't score against McLean? Is
> McLeans Defense legit? Sounds like a boring game!




No...coaching lost that game. Predictable....not to mention 3 turnovers. We (SL) had 4 possessions within the last 8 minutes....still could not score...coaching all the way. OR lack there of.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 09, 2012 10:27AM

A lot of great games this week. Here are the spreads.

Annandale (-4.0) @ Woodson
Centreville (-20.0) @ McLean
Chantilly (-1.0) @ Oakton *Co-Game of the Week
Fairfax (-9.5) @ Jefferson
Falls Church (-17.0) @ Wakefield
Hayfield (-10.5) @ Mount Vernon
Langley @ Yorktown (-8.5)
Lee @ South County (-3.0)
Madison (-13.0) @ South Lakes
Robinson (-6.0) @ Lake Braddock *Co-Game of the Week
Stone Bridge (-63.0) @ Marshall *biggest spread of the year
Stuart @ Edison (-10.0)
Westfield (-14.0) @ West Potomac

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 09, 2012 10:31AM

We talk so much about Woodson on here, so hopefully the tragic suicide of a player will stop the constant bickering about the competence of the players and coaching staff.

I had heard there was a missing student the past week, but had no idea he was on the football team. I'm just wondering from current players and parents, what was the mood like this week with the team? They came out and got a big win, but were the boys close with this player? I just ask cause I saw no articles on the fact that a teammate was missing. Then while he was missing, Woodson talk on this thread was as prominent as ever.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NorthRegionFan ()
Date: October 09, 2012 11:03AM

The talk of Woodson football on this thread is tedious. It is horrible and that a student/teammate/friend was lost this week. I feel bad for the entire Woodson community, the teen's family and friends.

I hope this thread continues with some interesting talk on an exciting HS football season. I am a Concorde fan and am impressed with how good everyone is (other than Herndon, who Coach Day will build over time). I wouldn't want to play any one of these teams in the playoffs, they are all dangerous and can beat any team on any given night. The Chantilly Oakton game will be very interesting this weekend. And, the Robinson running back may rack up 500 years against the Lake Braddock defense I witnessed earlier this season.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: October 09, 2012 04:39PM

Please stop talking about Woodson here, we get it, you are horrible and you need someone to blame. But I believe everyone feels terrible for you and your school. Losing someone that young should not happen.

I got Chantilly over Oakton. This could almost be a repeat for the Cougars of last year. 31-21 'Tilly.

Centreville needs to bounce back, and this one is almost a guarranteed win, but this year, there is no such thing as a guarranteed win for the CardiacCats. Either way, 24-7 CVille over McLean.


Robinson and Lake Braddock will be interesting. Ground and pound vs. the spread attack. Robinson is on a roll and Joe Wilson should be hard to stop as ever. Caleb Henderson will get his 250 yds and probably 2 or 3 tds, but Robinson pulls it out, 28-24.

Westfield and West Potomac will be the best of the night. The Bulldogs pulled out a huge win over their rivals, and may face a letdown. This team is much more beatable this year, and I think it comes down to a late run by Pierson-El. West-Po 27, Westfield 24.

Herndon and W&L. Not even a contest. W&L is somewhat good this year and Herndon is still just Herndon. 38-3 Washington and Lee.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: around the bend ()
Date: October 09, 2012 04:50PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/post/fairfax-transfer-nick-scott-wanted-the-right-fit-not-just-a-football-fit/2012/09/05/e0941f74-f771-11e1-8b93-c4f4ab1c8d13_blog.html

Is this Nick Scott kid the real deal? Haven't seen him play all year.

Who is the offensive coordinator at Fairfax? Looking at scores in the paper, those guys have scored some points this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: BulldogsRock ()
Date: October 09, 2012 05:14PM

Being a Bulldog fan, I worry about a letdown this week as well as looking ahead to next week (Oakton). They are in a grueling stretch. However, their coaches always seem to have them ready to play, so I expect another close one. Hope they pull it out. The good thing is they can run and pass, so while the run sets up the pass best, you cant always comletely shut them down.

I think Chantilly edges Oakton and C'Ville wins pretty easily.

I dont konw how Lake Braddock's defense stops Wilson.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldog 1 ()
Date: October 10, 2012 01:54PM

He played against us for the 1st half but didn't do much I think he was hurt. Didn't see him in the 2nd half. They only manages a field goal. The teams they score points against are Mclean,Annnadale,south Lakes so wouldn't put too much stock in the O

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Reality Sets In at SC ()
Date: October 11, 2012 08:41PM

Nice to see good old Gerry Panonni destroying a Football program again! So far 1-5 at South County. Nice Job.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Stallion Fan ()
Date: October 11, 2012 11:16PM

Reality Sets In at SC Wrote:
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> Nice to see good old Gerry Panonni destroying a
> Football program again! So far 1-5 at South
> County. Nice Job.


He took them to states, something Bendorf could never do and they were never projected to. Panonni is a class act, layoff and look at the teams they've been playing.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: stallion fan? ()
Date: October 11, 2012 11:53PM

Lee, fast start, then toilet
Woodson fast start then toilet
Centreville fast start then toilet
South County fast start than toilet

If you are comparing Pannoni to Bendorf and choosing pannoni then he truly has found the proper home. Enjoy never being good again.

South County went to states behind Adam Neff and the holdovers from the old regime as they had been trained to compete in Division 6 and dropped down to Division 5 and now they are gone it's back to the pannoni year 2 phenomenon.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: TBONE ()
Date: October 12, 2012 08:41AM

Not having been on Fairfax Underground for a few months, I thought I'd check in on HS Football - last year I observed the arguments ove the Robinson and South County Coaches - the most interesting one I think was how Coach Pannoni often has early success then his program disintegrates over the next couple of years until he is fired or quits. The time schedule seems sped up this year at South County. Since I don't follow the schools closely, did he graduate his entire team after his first year great run? What is happening at South County?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NoVafan ()
Date: October 12, 2012 11:27AM

Booster Wrote:
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> It's the parents fault that the play calling is
> unimaginative?! It's the parents fault that the
> head coach has no game mngmt skills? It's the
> parents fault that the head coach has no fire in
> his belly? It's the parents fault that the d
> coordinator from Madison who nobody else wanted is
> the WTW d coordinator? It's the parents fault that
> whenever coach D does get fired he will NEVER be a
> head coach ever again? It's the parents fault that
> a lot of assistants ran away from the program last
> year? It's the parents fault that the coaching
> staff helps other teams score last second field
> goals before halftime? It's the parents fault that
> WTW is in the middle of a 2-12 stretch that will
> probably end up 2-18 or 3-17 at best? It's the
> parents fault that these last 2 yrs are the worst
> 2 yrs at WTW football in 20 yrs?
>
> You can blame parents for a lot, but be a man and
> admit that you and your staff are not cutout for
> the job and move on. Bring Coach Gull back and
> watch this program get on track again. By that I
> mean watch them at least win 3 or 4 for Christ
> sake.


How hard is this for you to understand! YOUR KID SUCKS!!!! You see it every Friday night. The other team dominates your suck ass kids. It doesn't matter what plays are called or defense is employed, your kids cannot man up against better athletes with more heart.

Heres an idea! transfer to another school and see how bad your kid is when he cannot get on the field. Then you can complain about that Coach and how he is not playing the right kids! In the meantime, OPEN YOUR EYES and admit that your kid sucks. Quit blaming everyone else except where the blame needs to be placed.... ON YOUR KID

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: October 12, 2012 03:06PM

Stallion Fan Wrote:
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> Reality Sets In at SC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nice to see good old Gerry Panonni destroying a
> > Football program again! So far 1-5 at South
> > County. Nice Job.
>
>
> He took them to states, something Bendorf could
> never do and they were never projected to.
> Panonni is a class act, layoff and look at the
> teams they've been playing.


Sequence of events:
1) 2010: SoCo goes 4-6 in D6
2) 2011: Soco moves to D5 and opens by getting shutout by D5 Hayfield, 7-0. SoCo loses 2 more to go 0-3 and then suddenly wins 11 in a row.
3) June: 2012: SoCo's ex-assistant coach gets arrested for 'roid distribution. School issues a memo to parents stating that the defendant had not worked at the school since 2010.
4) 2012: SoCo loses to D5 Hayfield again, and is now 1-5 playing a tough sched.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: October 12, 2012 10:49PM

GridIron1 Wrote:
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> Stallion Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Reality Sets In at SC Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Nice to see good old Gerry Panonni destroying
> a
> > > Football program again! So far 1-5 at South
> > > County. Nice Job.
> >
> >
> > He took them to states, something Bendorf could
> > never do and they were never projected to.
> > Panonni is a class act, layoff and look at the
> > teams they've been playing.
>
>
> Sequence of events:
> 1) 2010: SoCo goes 4-6 in D6
> 2) 2011: Soco moves to D5 and opens by getting
> shutout by D5 Hayfield, 7-0. SoCo loses 2 more to
> go 0-3 and then suddenly wins 11 in a row.
> 3) June: 2012: SoCo's ex-assistant coach gets
> arrested for 'roid distribution. School issues a
> memo to parents stating that the defendant had not
> worked at the school since 2010.
> 4) 2012: SoCo loses to D5 Hayfield again, and is
> now 1-5 playing a tough sched.


Was just looking at SoCo's sched. It's tough for a D5. I wouldn't read too much into the ex-coach getting arrested for steriods. Steriods are everywhere and you don't know who is using/who isn't using.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: October 12, 2012 11:30PM

Looks like Oakton got exposed tonight. Anyone go the game that could provide some info?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WHS ()
Date: October 13, 2012 01:02AM

WOW!!!!! 49-0 westfield, holy crap!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: October 13, 2012 01:13AM

38-35 Madison over South Lakes. The game wasn't as close as the score indicates. The South Lakes QB apparently doesn't know how to read coverage.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: YourCrazy ()
Date: October 13, 2012 01:18AM

Dude... Madison scored with 17 seconds left... That was as close as your gonna get! Kudos to both teams for an awesome game! I enjoyed it. My buddy told me this was suppose to be a blow out for Madison.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 13, 2012 09:48AM

Annandale 7 @ Woodson 14 Dishun has strung together 4 great game plans and WTW has now won 2 in a row!

Centreville 21 @ McLean 3

Chantilly 42 @ Oakton 21 Huge win for the Chargers. Chantilly will likely jump to the #2 seed in D6 Northern Region based on power points and they've shown they can contend with Westfield.

Fairfax 28 @ TJ 6

Falls Church 41 @ Wakefield 6

Hayfield 20 @ Mount Vernon 7

Langley 14 @ Yorktown 24

Robinson 7 @ Lake Braddock 32 *Great game for the Bruins. Didn't think Lake Braddock's defense could step up. Robinson is a very up and down team though.

Stone Bridge 63 @ Marshall 6

Stuart 7 @ Edison 55 Major let down year for Stuart.

Westfield 49 @ West Potomac 0 *Dominating victory for the Bulldogs. West Po is a very good team. Watch out next week Oakton. The Concorde is on a whole different level.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cav #1 ()
Date: October 13, 2012 09:48AM

The cavs have won 2 in a row!!! Forget for a minute that both wins this year are agsinst the same two bum squads that we beat last yr. At yrs end the record will be 2-8 most likely. Same record as last yr. that is 4-16 in 2 yrs combined. I think it's time that coach Bianchi steps down and goes back to teaching 5th graders. Coach D should go back to LB and coach D again... WTW admin would be best served by hiring a coach that will make kids want to enjoy football. These guys currently have cut the program in half from where it was 3 yrs ago. Bring back Coach Gull or Coach Cross or Coach Howels! A coach that we actually enjoyed playing for!!! Otherwise WTW will win another 2 games next yr and we'll still be having the same discussion. Coach B should leave hs coaching and never come back. Coach D should stick to assistant jobs. The rest if our staff is okay.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 13, 2012 09:50AM

Your argument is flawed Cavs. You beat two bum teams on par with your bum team. So 4-0 in winnable games against similar competiton. Coaches are doing a fine job, the talent sucks. Good for the program as a whole though!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ex cavs coach ()
Date: October 13, 2012 10:03AM

Any anti-woodson football post that has coach Howells name in it is written by Howells himself. He is an ex woodson football coach that loves promoting himself. He is a football coach, that doesn't know football.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: concordefootballfan ()
Date: October 13, 2012 11:08AM

Oakton had 5 turnovers on offense, 1 INT for a TD. Game was closer than the score. But still Oakton looked sloppy. Chantilly is a good team. They should have beat Westfield last week and they beat Oakton now. Concorde is still wide open. Oakton plays Westfield this week - if Oakton can control the turnover issues, it could be a good game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: October 13, 2012 03:54PM

Herndon did it!!! They won a game!!! 20-6 over Wash-Lee!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeRox ()
Date: October 13, 2012 04:15PM

Westfield completely dominated West Potomac last night. I am not sure if they were totally overrated or just had a bad night. Pierson-El was ok, but not outstanding at all. Westfield physically abused them.

Just goes to show, the games in the Concorde are battles, you get outside of the district and most everyone pales in comparison.

And Madison cannot be that good if they beat South Lakes by 3. No wonder Stone Bridge just walks away with that District every year, there is not one team that can give them a legit game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: HS Football ()
Date: October 13, 2012 04:48PM

Westfield is a dominant team. No surprise about the ass whoopin they delivered to West Pot. Westfield has superior talent and superior coaching. Community football begins from youth league and runs right on up to HS. Westfield has all their ducks in a row. West Pot is a one trick pony show this year with one very talented player.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: October 13, 2012 05:18PM

ConcordeRox Wrote:
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> Westfield completely dominated West Potomac last
> night. I am not sure if they were totally
> overrated or just had a bad night. Pierson-El was
> ok, but not outstanding at all. Westfield
> physically abused them.
>
> Just goes to show, the games in the Concorde are
> battles, you get outside of the district and most
> everyone pales in comparison.
>
> And Madison cannot be that good if they beat South
> Lakes by 3. No wonder Stone Bridge just walks
> away with that District every year, there is not
> one team that can give them a legit game.

Agree, that was a crazy game last night. W'field dictated to WestPo the whole time. That team has come a long way from the one I saw get waxed by DeMatha 52-6 in a scrimmage in Aug. If the D keeps playing like that, they will be tough to beat.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Frank the Tank ()
Date: October 13, 2012 05:50PM

Steve, your logic is way off. Are you saying that WTW has only played 4 bad teams in 2 years?!?! Have you seen Lee play recently?! They are awful. WTW handed Lee a victory because the brainiac Woodson coaches handed Lee a victory.Lets stop making excuses for the coaching staff. 4 games in 2 yrs in unaccaptable. Bianchi is a bum and needs to go. Did you see how MAdison improved when he left? I know for a fact that many in that program blamed Bianchi for some of the nonsense that went on over there. As for Dishun - he's just a guy. The school custodian knows more football than he does. Seriously. Stop talking like you know these people. Talk to other coaches in the region (if you know any) and they will all tell you that the WTW staff is a joke. Sure the kids are awful as well, but they wont get any better with a coaching staff like that around. IF you doubt me - lets see how many more head coaching jobs Dishun ever gets after WTW cans him. Lets see how many schools offer head coaching jobs to Bianchi when WTW lets him go. The answer will be none for both of them. End of story.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cav Parent ()
Date: October 13, 2012 06:00PM

Any post on here that puts down Coach Howells is coming from Coach Bianchi. Coach Bianchi and the other WTW coaches hate that their players wish Coach Howells was still around. Pathetic. Coach Howells should still be on that staff, but he ran for his life because WTW is Disfunction Junction. Every coach with any potential runs for his life away from WTW. Look at all of the good coaches who ran to Robinson. I think Coach Howells is coaching at Chantilly now. The guys like Bianchi and Dishun are only at WTW because they'll never be given head coaching jobs any where else. I refer to both of them because even though Dishun is the head coach on paper, Bianchi walks around like he's the boss. Meanwhile, the truth is both of them have about as much leadership as a dead moth.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: again? ()
Date: October 13, 2012 06:13PM

Last two posts, done by same dude! Read previous post and you will know who it is.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: again? ()
Date: October 13, 2012 06:18PM

One more thing - I admit it, I'm Coach Bianchi.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Done Talking Woodson ()
Date: October 13, 2012 10:13PM

First, there is no Coach Howells at Chantilly.

Second, Lee was 7-5 and a region semi-finalist last year! Then 3-3 this year. Woodson is no where near that talent level.

Third, I can not believe we are talking about Woodson football still.

All this naming of past assistant coaches is pathetic. I venture to say Coach Howells is on here posting, because who talks about an assistant that left the program after a 3 win season (before Dushun got there) and then a 2 win season (which this year's team has already matched)? The past coaches were bad.

Whether Dishun stays or not, the program would bring in someone new. Not someone who was part of the losing program. Then this hate for Bianchi is ridiculous too, I've never seen assistants criticized so much. Leave the guy alone and you try coaching that defense.

Woodson is winning at the freshmen and jv levels this year. The system is working. I could care less what they do, but as a bystander I see a lot of signs that the program is going in the right direction. Every coach deserves 3 years if they are running a respectable program which he is, but if Woodson cans him so be it.

I just cannot stand moronic parents (1 or 2 of them on this site) that bash programs and coaches putting so much time into their jobs for a small stipend. It's a lot more important for coaches to be developing men, then it is for wins/losses. From what I've heard Dishun does that, and I know Bianchi does (no the man from way back I admit).

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Enuff already! ()
Date: October 13, 2012 11:34PM

WTW sux, Dishun sux, Bianchi sux, Howell sux, and so does everything else about that program. That place blows. Anyone who defends that program or their inept coaching on this stupid site is obviously one of the coaches. Get a life fellas. Go and gameplan instead of farting around on this site talking shit. Maybe that way you can beat a school other than Annandale or TC for once. Get a life.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: joey ()
Date: October 14, 2012 03:09AM

Don't knock beating TC! West Springfield would love to trade places!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bill ()
Date: October 14, 2012 10:45AM

I think that Fairfax is looking pretty good this year. They will give Madison a good game. Also Stone Bridge will have some trouble against them for sure if they keep looking sharp. Too bad that they're changing districts next year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 14, 2012 11:00AM

Stone Bridge will not have trouble against Fairfax or Madison. They have the Liberty District so outmatched it's not even funny. They've lost one district game in 10 years.

Stone Bridge
Madison
Langley (SB beat 27-0)
Fairfax

This is the pecking order for the Liberty. No one is capable of scoring 2 TD's on SB. If Chantilly and Robinson couldn't compete, no way a Liberty team competes.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeRox ()
Date: October 14, 2012 12:14PM

Stonebridge will absolutely destroy both Fairfax and Madison. Won't be close.

I suggest those posting the nonsense on WTW start their own string under another heading. It's exhausting reading the whining that goes on about the program and coaches.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Regis ()
Date: October 14, 2012 03:26PM

I believe Stone Bridge will remain in the Liberty district next year. The changes coming out of the VHSL affect playoffs only.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: you're wrong ()
Date: October 14, 2012 08:40PM

Regis Wrote:
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> I believe Stone Bridge will remain in the Liberty
> district next year. The changes coming out of the
> VHSL affect playoffs only.


The districts are being dismantled next year and ALL schools in VA are being put into conferences based on their school size and proximity. Stone Bridge will be placed into a conference with schools such as Briar Woods and Broad Run.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: No You are wrong ()
Date: October 14, 2012 09:16PM

No, you are wrong. This is explained in detail on the VHSL website.

The districts are unchanged and the team with the best district record will still be the district champion BUT it will have NO effect on the playoffs. Conferences only have to do with playoff seeding and are set entirely by the student population across the state (used to be done by region) - as a result, many NR D5 teams will become D6 in the new system.

There are 2 D6 conferences, each with 32 teams, all the NR D6 teams are in the 6A North. 16 teams will advance to the playoffs in both the 6A North and 6A South. Seeding will be based entirely on power points with 1 vs. 16, 2 vs. 15 etc. As of right now it is undecided what to do once two teams are left in 6A North and 6A South. The choices are 1) Reseed and have 1 vs. 4 and 2 vs 3 or 2) Allow a "regional" championship of the two remaining teams in the North and South who would then play for the state title.

As far as 5A North and South goes it is the same. The NR teams that will be in 5A North are: TJ, Marshall, Edison, Falls Church, Mt. Vernon, Stuart, Wakefield, Lee and Stone Bridge (by one student).

Note: Although the conferences apply to all sports the above are the playoff rules for football, every sport has its own rules on how it deals with district champs/playoffs.

Note that Phoebus is now 4A and will probably be the state champion for the next 10 years or until they change the system again.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Glenn ()
Date: October 14, 2012 09:57PM

Madison is starting freshman QB for game against Fairfax for next friday. I believe he must be very good!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: pride ()
Date: October 14, 2012 10:55PM

fairfax all day. no question. better players, better coaches.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: no you are wrong wrong ()
Date: October 14, 2012 10:58PM

Please do your reading/research first. Here is the final approved listing of schools and their conferences that begin NEXT YEAR. Please make sure you look at 5A North conference 14 that has Stone Bridge listed in the same conference as Briar Woods and Broad Run like I stated above. Not sure what you thought I posted was wrong. There is no more Concorde/National/Patriot/Liberty districts anymore and they are called conferences. They teams are lumped together by school population size and proximity to each other. Last I checked Stone Bridge wasn't in the same conference as Briar Woods or Broad Run. And if you look at Conference 6 it has Langley, Mclean, Madison in with Hayfield, Yorktown and Yorktown. I guess somewhere in your mind you had them all in the same district at some point when those teams were clearly in the Liberty and National districts. I love calling out dumbasses, but I will give you credit on your playoff scenario as that is correct. Schools may move conferences depending on if population grows or not.

http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/Item%2030-final-recommended-conferences-alignment-plan-for-2013-14-and-2014-151.pdf

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Not the DumbAss ()
Date: October 15, 2012 06:45AM

Congrats on finding the listing of the new conferences. Now try reading the minutes of the committee meetings. In the February meeting it was voted 10-2 to "maintain the current districts for regular season play." Further they voted 11-0 to "use the following terms for the new six-classification proposal:

Six Classes
Districts maintained as they currently exist
Conference (conference champions are first competitive playoff level – no conference for football)
Regions (region champions most recently identified as sectionals)
State (state champions)"

You are wrong that the districts are gone they voted to maintain the districts "as they currently exist." so Concorde, Liberty etc. remain.

You are right the Stonbridge is in a new conference, but that has nothing to do with football since there is "no conference for football" and regardlesss conferences are ONLY for post season play.

Finaly in the April minutes concering the new power point system they voted 10-1-1 to "to approve the rating scale below (thus overturning the scale approved at the February 14 meeting) awarding two (2) bonus points per classification for in-district games to higher classification teams playinglower classification teams and one (1) bonus point per classification for out-of-district games playing lower classification teams."

Please note the term IN-DISTRICT and OUT-OF-DISTRICT. So when 6A North SOCO beats 5A North Lee in a IN-DISTRICT game they will get a 26 points (24 plus 2 bonus points which is what a win against a 6A team is worth) as if Lee were a 6A team because SOCO has to play Lee because they are in their DISTRICT. Further note that they play “down” in an OUT-OF-DISTRICT game they only get 1 bonus point. This may not be obvios to you but you can't have in-district games if there are no districts.

So since you love calling out dumbasses I look forward to your next post to yourself.

Next time read everything on the subject - not just the things that supports your postion.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: October 15, 2012 07:19AM

Wow, with all this conference talk and references to meeting minutes, etc., I am starting to miss the WTW posts whining about their coaches. Or maybe we could go back to the multiple posts about the Henderson's?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: show me yours ()
Date: October 15, 2012 07:48AM

I would be happy to explain it to you if you provided me a link of where the writing says that they will keep districts as before. This is not just for playoffs, but for the whole year in all sports. Certain sports playoffs have to be modified until more participation in the sport occurs (ex: lacrosse), but the playoffs system you have is correct. You do not need to explain the playoffs power point scoring system as I am well aware of it and agree with you there, but the district alignment is what we are arguing about. Show me your facts because I can not find this writing and have read heavily into it.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: You're Still a DumbAss ()
Date: October 15, 2012 08:15AM

You mean show you what you failed to read when you made incorrect assertions about how the new system works - I quoted them directly above but here you go:

All documents reference the new system (I have studied them all):

http://www.vhsl.org/classification.alignment-2013-15

February Meeting Minutes:

http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/Item%203-rr-committee-minutes-2-2-12.pdf

April Meeting Minutes (explanation for bonus power points for IN DISTRICT games):

http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/Item%2012-%20football-rating-system-minutes-April%2017-2012.pdf

There is a nice PowerPoint presentation that even you could understand at:

http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/Item%208-powerpoint-classification-proposal5.pdf

In your own words "Please do your reading/research first." So will you now admit that you are the dumbass?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: yet again ()
Date: October 15, 2012 09:49AM

You don't seem to understand that I agree with you on all playoff points and how that system works. So you are telling me that the districts are going to remain intact, those teams shall play each other every year as they do now, then be lumped into a playoff system within their newly designed conferences against teams they haven't played before instead of district playoffs, but they are ranked in the conference based on their powerpoint system from their district play, then go on to regionals and states as usual under the new system. No where did I see in reading in the past and now that the districts "will remain intact." Show me those words.

ps - your breath stinks

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: A Jackass Too ()
Date: October 15, 2012 11:45AM

I give up; you just keep believing what you want to believe. In my first post, I included direct quotes from the minutes that showed that districts would remain intact such as:

"maintain the current districts for regular season play." And “Districts maintained as they currently exist”

What do you think the phrase “maintain the CURRENT districts for regular season play” means?

That wasn’t good enough for you so you asked for the links – which I provided. If you had taken the trouble to look at the links you would see where I pulled the information about districts being UNCHANGED.

If you had looked at the PowerPoint link, you would have seen a specific example on page 16 that states:

"- They play 20 regular season games" (obviously not a football or NR example)
"- 14 are in their district"
"- SAME AS TODAY"

What do you think the phrase "SAME AS TODAY" means?

You have clearly proven that you are not only a dumb ass, but a jackass too! This will be my last post on the subject - you obviously can’t read or comprehend basic English.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Last Post Really ()
Date: October 15, 2012 12:08PM

I made a mistake in my last post - when I said the example in the PPT file could not be from the NR - if you are in a 8 team District (Liberty, Patriot and National), and play each District opponent twice then you would have a total of 14 District games. I am not really familiar with what the other sports do, but a quick look at one of the NR school websites showed that in at least basketball and baseball they play each district opponent twice.

Now this is really my last post - I will leave it to others to decide which one of us has the facts straight.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Ahmayzin ()
Date: October 15, 2012 12:22PM

Glenn Wrote:
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> Madison is starting freshman QB for game against
> Fairfax for next friday. I believe he must be very
> good!


Madison barely beat South Lakes...we actually lost that game. They scored with under 50 seconds left on the clock... 38-35 I believe was the final. Fairfax will torch them.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SL parent ()
Date: October 15, 2012 01:53PM

Ahmayzin Wrote:
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> Glenn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Madison is starting freshman QB for game
> against
> > Fairfax for next friday. I believe he must be
> very
> > good!
>
>
> Madison barely beat South Lakes...we actually lost
> that game. They scored with under 50 seconds
> left on the clock... 38-35 I believe was the
> final. Fairfax will torch them.

Madison is a pretty decent and well coached team but they don't have much speed, and therefore have trouble defending against teams with speed. If Fairfax has speed at the skill positions they should match up well against them.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Dude1 ()
Date: October 15, 2012 03:20PM

I believe soon you will see a move to delay the whole change by a year. I dont believe they will scrap the change but push it back a year so all can figure out how to reorganize everything that is effected by the change. If they dont push it back then you may see a large group of VHSL schools threaten to leave VHSL

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: October 16, 2012 07:32AM

Any predictions for this weekend?

Centreville/Chantilly
Oakton/Westfield
Madison/Fairfax

Any opinions on All District players in the Patriot and Concorde at the skill positions?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: TeamSpeed ()
Date: October 16, 2012 09:33AM

Madison has plenty of speed.

#13, #81, and #1 are pretty fast and athletic.We have a really quick defense too.

We will beat Fairfax... Don't base this game off of how we played South Lakes.

South Lakes played a a near perfect game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: forreal ()
Date: October 16, 2012 12:16PM

fairfax has perhaps the best player in the region, and a coaching staff that knows how to use him.

madison is small, slow and unathletic.


offense-fairfax
defense-fairfax
QB-toss up
Coaching-fairfax
special teams-fairfax.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: VHSL Watcher ()
Date: October 16, 2012 12:34PM

Dude1 Wrote:
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> I believe soon you will see a move to delay the
> whole change by a year. I dont believe they will
> scrap the change but push it back a year so all
> can figure out how to reorganize everything that
> is effected by the change. If they dont push it
> back then you may see a large group of VHSL
> schools threaten to leave VHSL

It's a done deal!

VHSL tweet: "Vote to overturn 6 Classification legislation 110 in favor, 189 opposed. Motion fails."


Group AAA had voted 78-40 against the new system earlier.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: October 16, 2012 06:59PM

forreal Wrote:
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> fairfax has perhaps the best player in the region,
> and a coaching staff that knows how to use him.
>
> madison is small, slow and unathletic.
>
>
> offense-fairfax
> defense-fairfax
> QB-toss up
> Coaching-fairfax
> special teams-fairfax.

Yes, am not sure what to make of Madison's D. They played well vs teams like McLean and Langley, but struggled last week vs. S. Lakes. Fairfax coaches will take note but there's still that 13-7 home loss Washington Lee pinned on Fairfax. Can't wait to see this one.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: HEHE LOVE IT ()
Date: October 16, 2012 08:37PM

Fairfax is probably the most optimistic bunch I've ever heard. They haven't beaten a good team since Robinson 2 years ago and even that was through the air. Beating up on the Liberty (but losing to Westfield badly) and then getting demolished in the first round of the playoffs it is again.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KingConcorde ()
Date: October 16, 2012 08:39PM

Fairfax vs. Madison.....YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How 'bout some chatter about the heavyweight bouts in the Concorde this week:

Centreville vs. Chantilly
Oakton vs. Westfield

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whatever1650 ()
Date: October 16, 2012 08:48PM

Centreville will get their butts kicked. QB for them is really bad.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whatever1659 ()
Date: October 16, 2012 08:58PM

C'ville has plenty of talent that sit the bench under the current coaching staff.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: yea... ()
Date: October 16, 2012 09:09PM

i take chantilly to run away with it...

and on the subject of fairfax, where did I miss this legendary coaching staff? since when are they the new westfield? did Parcells join staff or something?

Alot of chatter on this thread concerning fairfax "elite" staff that continually goes 6-4 in the liberty...

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldog 1 ()
Date: October 16, 2012 10:51PM

The always beat the 1-9, 2-8 teams and think they are good. Who have they beaten with a better than 500 record in the last 2 years or 10 for that matter
It must be the Fairfax coach saying these thing on here because they gave up so many points to LB and Hayfield in their 2 scrimmages.
Take away Nick Scott and they don't win a game this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: October 16, 2012 11:33PM

The tenor of the Oakton-Westfield game will be determined by Oakton's ability to maintain possession. If they give up 4 turnovers like they did against Chantilly, Westfield will roll. If Oakton holds on to the ball, this game will be close. Westfield gave up over 200 yards rushing to both Tilly and Robinson and Oakton has a great rushing offense.

If Oakton can't hold on to the ball, I've got Westfield winning 42-14.
If Oakton can hold on to the ball, I've got Westfield winning 31-28

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whateverasskik ()
Date: October 16, 2012 11:58PM

Whatever1659 Wrote:
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> C'ville has plenty of talent that sit the bench
> under the current coaching staff.


You sound like you might know something. Give us an example of talent not being played.... And please be specific! Bet we don't see another post

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: the truth about fairfax ()
Date: October 17, 2012 08:21AM

Bulldog 1 Wrote:
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> Take away Nick Scott and they don't win a game
> this year.


Well they do beat Marshall handily regardless

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NotEvenClose ()
Date: October 17, 2012 10:47AM

Whatever1650 Wrote:
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> Centreville will get their butts kicked. QB for
> them is really bad.


As will Oakton.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: reggie ()
Date: October 17, 2012 11:00AM

Overheard was Matt Shannon the OC of Westfield to the Fairfax staff, "I could have scored 80 if I really wanted to."

The fairfax staff (expecially) HC was whining about how all the mean players from westfield were trying to injure nick scott by gang tackling. wow. serious?

But since that kid is the whole team (including coaching staff) I guess I can see his clouded concern.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Ashburn Dominance ()
Date: October 17, 2012 11:39AM

Here are some facts - Stone Bridge, who is stronger than any other Northern Virginia team this year, regardless of size, would rather continue to beat up on Langley, McLean, TJ, Fairfax, etc, rather than play in a much tougher Loudoun district.

They do not want to be in a district with Briar Wood, Broad Run, Woodgrove and Tuscarora. Yes, they have defeated Broad Run the past two years, but those games were tough. The Broad Run line pushed around Stone Bridge even this year, and Alabama bound John Allen had one tackle all game. Briar continues to get better ( they have a nice recruiting pipeline), so Mickey Thompson decided that he would get healthy down the stretch every year as opposed to playing Loudoun Division 5 schools.

So, Stone Bridge plays the Fairfax County patsies every year, but then will come back and play Loudoun schools in the playoffs. Makes no sense.

All of the Division 5 schools in Fairfax should be thankful that they don't have to play SB (after this year), Briar, or Broad Run for the right to advance.

Ashburn Youth Football League is the best feeder system around. How do I know this? By all of the talent that comes from Herndon, Lorton, Fairfax, etc just to play youth football. Those people are moving into Loudoun folks.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: positive coaching ()
Date: October 17, 2012 11:50AM

The head coach is right to complain, he has to have the players safety as his number one priority. if he feels the were trying to hurt his best player, he should say something.

fairfax, with the limited talent and resources beat a winning program in robinson in 2010. they win games and do things the way they should. plus, they impact kids in a positive aspect.

#more then winning.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: October 17, 2012 12:16PM

I was at the Fairfax Westfield game and nobody was trying to hurt anyone. The Westfield team and coaches are among the classiest around. They almost always get the officials Sportsmanship award for the way they conduct themselves on the field, and that is a fact. Gang tackling is not dirty, especially when you are trying to stop one of the best RB's in the region (Scott). The reality is, Westfield was better than Fairfax in every aspect and probably could have rolled up the score (look how many times they threw the ball....not often) but they didnt. Westfield has played Fairfax twice in the last two years and the scores weren't close. You cant blame the Fairfax coaches, the talent level and depth just arent the same.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: alskdjf;asldfasdfsadf ()
Date: October 17, 2012 12:19PM

I don't know what the hell any of you guys are talking about, Jeb Stuart is obviously going to take the state title this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: he he love it ()
Date: October 17, 2012 01:19PM

positive coaching Wrote:
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> The head coach is right to complain, he has to
> have the players safety as his number one
> priority. if he feels the were trying to hurt his
> best player, he should say something.
>
> fairfax, with the limited talent and resources
> beat a winning program in robinson in 2010. they
> win games and do things the way they should. plus,
> they impact kids in a positive aspect.
>
> #more then winning.


#more than spelling than wrong.

barking in a handshake line like a sore loser is not good coaching, but I like your optimisitc approach it shows you are truly a Rebel.

#barneyimpactskidsinapositivewaybutIdontwanthimcoachingmyteam

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 01:30PM

positive coaching Wrote:
>
> fairfax, with the limited talent and resources
> beat a winning program in robinson in 2010. they
> win games and do things the way they should. plus,
> they impact kids in a positive aspect.
>
> #more then winning.


Limited talent? They have 2500 students this year making it the largest school in Fairfax County. If you cannot compete with that kind of student body, it is absolutely on the coaches. Develop the talent, because in that district they should be atleast 2nd place every year and truth be told, be competing with Stone Bridge every year. Chantilly, Westfield, and Robinson who have similar demographics have been giving Stone Bridge close games for years, Chantilly even beat them last year. Fairfax hasn't even given Stone Bridge a remote scare.

Limited resources? Have you seen that school's football field? It is probably the nicest in Northern Virginia. Their weight room is fantastic, and their gym is the largest seating capacity of any high school in Fairfax County. How going .500 at a school like this every year in the Liberty District is considered good coaching is beyond me. Shoot that's the job to have I guess. Then can't forget when they were in the Concorde. Did they ever a win a game in that district?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 01:32PM

Here is the spread for this week's games. Looks like the 2 main games to watch this week are in the Concorde with Chantilly @ Centreville and Oakton @ Westfield. Although Fairfax @ Madison should be a really good game, and maybe the closest out of all of them.

Chantilly (-6.5) @ Centreville
Edison (-7.0) @ Mount Vernon
Fairfax @ Madison (-3.0)
Hayfield (-7.0) @ Washington-Lee
Herndon @ Robinson (-21.0)
Lake Braddock (-24.0) @ Lee
Marshall @ Jefferson (-28.0)
McLean @ Stone Bridge (-35.0)
Oakton @ Westfield (-17.0)
South County (-8.0) @ West Springfield
South Lakes @ Langley (-13.0)
Stuart (-20.0) @ Wakefield
Woodson @ West Potomac (-24.0)
Yorktown (-35.0) @ Falls Church
Annandale @ TC Williams (-2.5)

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: bulldog1 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 02:01PM

Went to the Westfield fairfax game. fairfax put up no fight what-so-ever. they continually tried the "run up the middle" plays from their wing t offense, hoping to gash Westfield's defense like Centreville did last season. it failed miserably, and left the head coach constantly yelling at the refs to stop the mayhem. not completely his fault however, as their center looked shorter then my 7 year old son...some of the athletes they suited up might not have made the roster for Westfield.

how on earth did they beat robinson 2 years ago? did robinson just sleep on em?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Not quite, but point still made ()
Date: October 17, 2012 03:24PM

steve k2 Wrote:
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> Limited talent? They have 2500 students this year
> making it the largest school in Fairfax County.

Fairfax is the 3rd largest school in FCPS ... but they have over 2650 kids, so I agree that the limited talent argument is a joke.

Westfield and Robinson are larger by enrollment than Fairfax

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whatever1650 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 05:27PM

Corran Turner, Reheem Woodson (quit out of frustration) and David Democker just to start the list. These players have never had a chance with this coaching staff and have incredible talent.

Bet you thought you wouldn't hear from me!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: October 17, 2012 05:53PM

Dont know these kids but i have to go with the coaches on this one. C'Ville coaches have a good reputation and I have to believe that if they they thought these guys could help them win, they would be on the field.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whatever1650 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 06:12PM

NRFan Wrote:
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> Dont know these kids but i have to go with the
> coaches on this one. C'Ville coaches have a good
> reputation and I have to believe that if they they
> thought these guys could help them win, they would
> be on the field.


Time will tell. They are about to hit the big 3; Chantilly, Westfield and Oakton. They haven't played anyone tough yet. Would like to see the coaches mix it up a bit and see some of these kids that have been bench warming. I see the same kids do poorly on the field and the coaches do nothing about it.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Westdog 4 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 06:22PM

Kevin Simmonds is the biggest baby in the northern region. After he stabbed Shannon in the back so he would get fired this generous takes a Div 1 athlete and puts him as a RB in the wing T. I looked Nick Scott up on line and he was a receiver at his old school and has the Mass. High jump record. Now he gets pounded by teams as they game plan for him and Simmonds complains. They should be in the concord and have to play schools their size. Next time we play them I hope Shannon scores 80

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: CougerPower ()
Date: October 17, 2012 06:36PM

Whatever1650 Wrote:
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> NRFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dont know these kids but i have to go with the
> > coaches on this one. C'Ville coaches have a
> good
> > reputation and I have to believe that if they
> they
> > thought these guys could help them win, they
> would
> > be on the field.
>
>
> Time will tell. They are about to hit the big 3;
> Chantilly, Westfield and Oakton. They haven't
> played anyone tough yet. Would like to see the
> coaches mix it up a bit and see some of these kids
> that have been bench warming. I see the same kids
> do poorly on the field and the coaches do nothing
> about it.


Hmmmmm, guessing one of these kids is yours and that is why your are complaining.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whatever1650 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 06:40PM

CougerPower Wrote:
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> Whatever1650 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NRFan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Dont know these kids but i have to go with
> the
> > > coaches on this one. C'Ville coaches have a
> > good
> > > reputation and I have to believe that if they
> > they
> > > thought these guys could help them win, they
> > would
> > > be on the field.
> >
> >
> > Time will tell. They are about to hit the big
> 3;
> > Chantilly, Westfield and Oakton. They haven't
> > played anyone tough yet. Would like to see the
> > coaches mix it up a bit and see some of these
> kids
> > that have been bench warming. I see the same
> kids
> > do poorly on the field and the coaches do
> nothing
> > about it.
>
>
> Hmmmmm, guessing one of these kids is yours and
> that is why your are complaining.


Actually my kids have long ago graduated and I still attend games. Hmmmmmmm, sounds like one of your kids might be the "stinky" player!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 06:43PM

I never doubt Centreville's coaching staff. They have such a winning reputation and they would play the best players unless this is a character issue (I personally have seen one of the players a couple years ago and he ain't that great, I'm guessing it's talent and not character). The fact of the matter is they lost most of their team to graduation and the next guys up just aren't that great yet. They are still young and should be real good next year.

I don't see Centreville winning any of their next 3 games, but they beat a good Lake Braddock team week 1. That being said they should be competitive and it wouldn't suprise me if they took down Chantilly at their homecoming or Oakton.

Parents or friends whining about bench players has gotten real old on FFXU. If they're on the bench they're not as good as you think, these coaches see them 6 days a week. There are a lot of good players at Centreville as there are at other Concorde schools. A lot of these bench players rarely see the field and would be starters at weaker schools around the county. If you don't like playing for a winning program, here's an idea...

Move to Woodson and never let those parents complaining about their kids on the bench see the field!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whatever1650 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 07:15PM

As I stated before, I'm not a parent so please leave all the parent bashing to someone else. I don't know a ton about the current coaching staff to comment on their integrity. I do know football and have watched the vast majority of these kids come up the ranks. There is other talent out there that hasn't been tapped into. I agree that they lost a great deal of talent last year and certainly would like nothing more than 3 more wins. My opinion just happens to be different from yours in the line-up. If your'e at the same games that I am you would hear the comments.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: BulldawgFan ()
Date: October 17, 2012 07:42PM

As long as there is sports, there will be those who feel that the guys on the bench should be on the field. Always been that way and always will.

As an avid Westfield observer, I truly see kids each year who have to wait their turn and in many instances, not play until their senior year. They deal with it beacuse:
a) they know the guys on the field are better and have put their time in
b) they love being part of the program

No better example than this year, where many of the key contributors either didnt play last year or played smaller roles.

I agree with SteveK2 who seems to know what he is talking about on this board, there is another issue if that very well respected C'Ville coaching staff is not playing these guys.

....and the beat goes on!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whatever1650 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 07:57PM

That's why this board is great. You can be the same person with 3 different names! Open up your'e ears and eyes jackass.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 08:14PM

Think what you want. Bulldawg is not me but I couldn't have said his point better myself. Enjoy the bench whatever!

Calling me a jackass is not something I would expect from a casual Centreville observer with kids that graduated a long time ago.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whatever1650 ()
Date: October 17, 2012 08:33PM

I am calling you a jackass because you continually accuse me of something in every post. I have respected your opinions, and you should do the same. Don't go onto a public forum unless you plan on people having various opinions. Also, I never said I was a casual observer. I have been watching Centreville football for over close to 20 years. Thanks for the memories.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: love is in the air ()
Date: October 17, 2012 08:58PM

Why don't you two get a room?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: BulldawgFan ()
Date: October 17, 2012 09:16PM

You gotta love FFX Underground!!!

Is it time to talk about WTW or the Henderson's again?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: October 17, 2012 09:49PM

Ashburn Dominance Wrote:
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> Here are some facts - Stone Bridge, who is
> stronger than any other Northern Virginia team
> this year, regardless of size, would rather
> continue to beat up on Langley, McLean, TJ,
> Fairfax, etc, rather than play in a much tougher
> Loudoun district.
>
> They do not want to be in a district with Briar
> Wood, Broad Run, Woodgrove and Tuscarora. Yes,
> they have defeated Broad Run the past two years,
> but those games were tough. The Broad Run line
> pushed around Stone Bridge even this year, and
> Alabama bound John Allen had one tackle all game.
> Briar continues to get better ( they have a nice
> recruiting pipeline), so Mickey Thompson decided
> that he would get healthy down the stretch every
> year as opposed to playing Loudoun Division 5
> schools.
>
> So, Stone Bridge plays the Fairfax County patsies
> every year, but then will come back and play
> Loudoun schools in the playoffs. Makes no sense.
>
> All of the Division 5 schools in Fairfax should be
> thankful that they don't have to play SB (after
> this year), Briar, or Broad Run for the right to
> advance.
>
> Ashburn Youth Football League is the best feeder
> system around. How do I know this? By all of the
> talent that comes from Herndon, Lorton, Fairfax,
> etc just to play youth football. Those people are
> moving into Loudoun folks.
---------------------------------------
Ashburn dominance:

1) You're living in the past with Broad Run. This year, Stone Bridge waxed them 37-14, at Broad Run. So that's 0-2 the past 2 years. Broad Run won D4 titles in 2008 and 2009 -- but they didn't play Stone Bridge either year and instead beat teams like Wakefield and Ballou. In both title games, they beat Amherst County, a team with 20% fewer enrollments. Had they been in D5, Stone Bridge or Phoebus would have spanked them.

2) Last year, Briar Woods (1764 enrollments) beat Christianburg (1092 enrollments) 28-26 in the D4 title game. Had the classifications been updated, Briar Woods would have had to play one of the smaller schools from the Eastern Region, maybe Phoebus the 4-time defending D5 champ.

Once your county's teams are playing comparably-size schools at states, you won't see any dominance. For that, see Phoebus in D5 (5 of the last 6 titles) or Fairfax's Concorde in D6.

Enrollments:
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/rr-adm-march-2012-six-classes.pdf

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: October 17, 2012 09:51PM

Ashburn dominance:

1) You're living in the past with Broad Run. This year, Stone Bridge waxed them 37-14, at Broad Run. So that's 0-2 the past 2 years. Broad Run won D4 titles in 2008 and 2009 -- but they didn't play Stone Bridge either year and instead beat teams like Wakefield and Ballou. In both title games, they beat Amherst County, a team with 20% fewer enrollments. Had they been in D5, Stone Bridge or Phoebus would have spanked them.

2) Last year, Briar Woods (1764 enrollments) beat Christianburg (1092 enrollments) 28-26 in the D4 title game. Had the classifications been updated, Briar Woods would have had to play one of the smaller schools from the Eastern Region, maybe Phoebus the 4-time defending D5 champ.

Once your county's teams are playing comparably-size schools at states, you won't see any dominance. For that, see Phoebus in D5 (5 of the last 6 titles) or Fairfax's Concorde in D6.

Enrollments:
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/rr-adm-march-2012-six-classes.pdf






Ashburn Dominance Wrote:
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> Here are some facts - Stone Bridge, who is
> stronger than any other Northern Virginia team
> this year, regardless of size, would rather
> continue to beat up on Langley, McLean, TJ,
> Fairfax, etc, rather than play in a much tougher
> Loudoun district.
>
> They do not want to be in a district with Briar
> Wood, Broad Run, Woodgrove and Tuscarora. Yes,
> they have defeated Broad Run the past two years,
> but those games were tough. The Broad Run line
> pushed around Stone Bridge even this year, and
> Alabama bound John Allen had one tackle all game.
> Briar continues to get better ( they have a nice
> recruiting pipeline), so Mickey Thompson decided
> that he would get healthy down the stretch every
> year as opposed to playing Loudoun Division 5
> schools.
>
> So, Stone Bridge plays the Fairfax County patsies
> every year, but then will come back and play
> Loudoun schools in the playoffs. Makes no sense.
>
> All of the Division 5 schools in Fairfax should be
> thankful that they don't have to play SB (after
> this year), Briar, or Broad Run for the right to
> advance.
>
> Ashburn Youth Football League is the best feeder
> system around. How do I know this? By all of the
> talent that comes from Herndon, Lorton, Fairfax,
> etc just to play youth football. Those people are
> moving into Loudoun folks.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NoVaFBfan ()
Date: October 17, 2012 11:36PM

Whatever1650 Wrote:
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> Corran Turner, Reheem Woodson (quit out of
> frustration) and David Democker just to start the
> list. These players have never had a chance with
> this coaching staff and have incredible talent.
>
> Bet you thought you wouldn't hear from me!


None of these kids is better than the kids playing in front of them. You may have watched them play youth ball, but now they cannot get on the field because they are not good enough. Turner has played a little at DB in nickel situations and has done OK. Woodson is not even listed on the Roster. Democker is not even second team, he got beat out by a sophomore for back up QB. If they could help Cville win they would be on the field. Plain and Simple.

Not sure what your agenda is, but whatever it is, these kids are not better than the kids in front of them.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The man ()
Date: October 18, 2012 06:25AM

To those who think Fairfax is all that: you cannot be taken seriously if you lose to W-L

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: fairfaxfam ()
Date: October 18, 2012 12:42PM

At Fairfax we run the ball downhill just like Centreville, We will see Lake Braddock in the playoffs and it will be a differnt story.We are united we are one!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: herndon ()
Date: October 18, 2012 01:25PM

Fairfax lost to W-L on the field, but due to the above average role models on the fairfax staff the winner of the hand shake line was all Fairfax!
W-L's line was wobbly at best, their hands were limp, the fairfax kids all had great eye contact and used proper pronouns and past particibles in all passing pleasentries!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: herndon ()
Date: October 18, 2012 01:27PM

So yeah, Herndon won both!
The handshakes feel better when you beat the teams you are supposed to!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: reggie ()
Date: October 18, 2012 01:30PM

Power Points have Fairfax most likely tying with Robinson for the 8th spot, how will they determine the tie breaker????
If Fairfax misses the playoffs while playing in a div. 5 district we're all going to wonder what happened!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: reggie is a crack whore ()
Date: October 18, 2012 01:49PM

The current power points have Fairfax at 25.00 and Robinson at 23.14

The current power points shake down like this:

1. Westfield (#1 in the state)
2. Tilly
3. Oakton
4. C'Ville
5. West Po
6. Lake Brad.
(tie) 7. West Spring.
(tie) 7. Fairfax

Currently out of the playoffs: Annandale, TCW, Woodson, Herndon, Robinson, South Lakes.

As it stands, it looks like Robinson is the only team not currently in the playoffs that would have a shot to work their way in. They are 1.86 points behind Fairfax and West Springfield. Everyone else is at least 5 points behind FFX and WSHS.

http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/fb-weekly-ratings5.pdf


reggie Wrote:
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> Power Points have Fairfax most likely tying with
> Robinson for the 8th spot, how will they determine
> the tie breaker????
> If Fairfax misses the playoffs while playing in a
> div. 5 district we're all going to wonder what
> happened!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 18, 2012 02:05PM

If Robinson can get one win against one of the big dogs in the Concorde with a Herndon win, they should make it easily with the power points. They're just going to have to beat Chantilly or Oakton which is very possible being as they beat Centreville and lost to Westfield by just 3.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: October 18, 2012 06:08PM

Fairfax is hanging in there despite losing to Wash Lee of the National District. WL is somewhere around 22.8 as a new D6 and won't make it.

reggie is a crack whore Wrote:
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> The current power points have Fairfax at 25.00 and
> Robinson at 23.14
>
> The current power points shake down like this:
>
> 1. Westfield (#1 in the state)
> 2. Tilly
> 3. Oakton
> 4. C'Ville
> 5. West Po
> 6. Lake Brad.
> (tie) 7. West Spring.
> (tie) 7. Fairfax
>
> Currently out of the playoffs: Annandale, TCW,
> Woodson, Herndon, Robinson, South Lakes.
>
> As it stands, it looks like Robinson is the only
> team not currently in the playoffs that would have
> a shot to work their way in. They are 1.86 points
> behind Fairfax and West Springfield. Everyone else
> is at least 5 points behind FFX and WSHS.
>
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/fb-weekly-ratings5.
> pdf
>
>
> reggie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Power Points have Fairfax most likely tying
> with
> > Robinson for the 8th spot, how will they
> determine
> > the tie breaker????
> > If Fairfax misses the playoffs while playing in
> a
> > div. 5 district we're all going to wonder what
> > happened!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Herndon ()
Date: October 18, 2012 10:56PM

Herndon is playing the majority of their players on Thurday and Friday nights. How can you have 10th grade players play full games two days in a row. That is not safe or smart. As a parent I am concerned. Kids are starting on Thursday in a JV games playing all 4 quarters, then turning around and starting on Friday night too.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Eastern Va Fan - You know nothin ()
Date: October 18, 2012 11:52PM

You really seem sort of stupid. I was talking about Loudoun talent, not just Broad Run. Broad Run is down a little this year, but still will make the playoffs. As for last year, If their QB does not go down in the playoffs last year, they likely win their region.

They are 4-3 with their losses coming to two other Loudoun teams and Woodbridge. They score 37 on Herndon, a much larger school by the way, as are all of the Prince William County schools. Why didn't you point out how Broad Run has 1600 kids, and Battlefield almost 3000? Still, in their first year in AAA, they are co-champs in the tough Cedar Run District.

Stone Bridge, Briar ( both still undefeated)and Broad Run are all well under 2000 enrolled. There is not a Fairfax school of that size that has a better program than any of the three.

Phoebus is an aberration. They get to recruit by being an ROTC school. Plus, they are going down to Div 4 in the new classification, and will outscore all of their opponents in the playoffs by 50 for the next 10 years.

The winner of the Stone Bridge, Briar, Broad Run, Tuscarora, etc division will play for the state championship if Div 5 every year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Stop the Loudoun ()
Date: October 19, 2012 12:05AM

Loudoun is not up to snuff with Fairfax County. Briar Woods would struggle if they weren't playing small schools every week. Stone Bridge is the best team in NOVA but that's really all Loudoun has as an elite team. Loudoun also has far less offseason practice restrictions which explains Stone Bridge's strength. I don't think it has anyhting to really do with the Youth League. As long as you have one and kids are playing, they'll be fine by the time they get to high school. You can't tell me Ashburn is any better than a CYA or SYA.

This is Fairfax County though, this is almost as obnoxious as the Woodson talk. I believe if you go to NOVA Underground there is a Loudoun section. Enjoy!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Fairfax Football Sucks ()
Date: October 19, 2012 12:18AM

Briar Woods is smaller than all of the Fairfax schools. They would beat all of them except for Westfield.

And Westfield has a thousand more students.

Ashburn Youth Football has over two dozen extremely talented kids from Fairfax who come to AYFL for the coaching and better talent.

No one leaves Loudoun to go to Fairfax.

Why would they... unless than can speak Spanish, Vietnamese, or Urdu?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Anything but Loudoun ()
Date: October 19, 2012 12:37AM

Briar Woods would not beat one Concorde team (except Herndon), they would not beat Lake Braddock or West Potomac either. Then even if I gave you Briar Woods after that there is no depth in Loudoun. You have two teams beating up on their weak districts every year with an occaisonal strong Broad Run team. You said Briar Woods wouldn't beat Westfield, well Chantilly and Robinson both came within 3 points of them, so you think Briar Woods is within one score of a Westfield, no friggin way. Then funny you talk about Westfield being bigger, when Briar Woods is playing schools with 700 less kids in the state tournament. Once the reclassification happens, Briar Woods is screwed.

Who cares if Fairfax kids play in Ashburn Youth Football? What point are you trying to prove? My son plays on a baseball team in Fairfax and people from Loudoun and Prince William are on the team. It means nothing.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: October 19, 2012 01:36AM

No Nothing or whatever your name is:

Yeah, I'm really stupid. That's why I called you out when you posted that Broad Run pushed SB all over the field. I was there and the scoreboard did not lie: SB 37, BR 14. Next, you claimed that SB would "rather continue to beat up on Langley, McLean, TJ, Fairfax, etc., than play in the much tougher Loudoun district." Again, because I'm stupid, I'm wondering which teams are so tough in Loudoun that SB can't handle them. When it comes to states, had BW or Broad Run been in D5 (as they should be with 1750+), they would have run into Phoebus just like SB did. You've got a budding hotbed in Loudoun but let's wait to see what happens in D5 when playoffs start. We'll probably see SB rule D5 along w/a weakened Phoebus or possibly Lake Taylor from Norfolk. As for the Cedar, let's see what happens when BR plays Battlefield and then Stonewall. Your point about the enrollment disparity vs. Broad Run is well-taken but playing bigger schools might help BR get ready for playoffs. Lastly, you point out that Broad Run dropped 37 on Herndon, a D6 as if that's a big deal. Apparently, you didn't realize that a D5 like Yorktown from the weak National Dist put 51 on Herndon. I don't think that any of these teams except SB could compete for the Condcorde title every year -- but agree that they do have good programs for their schools' sizes.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: October 19, 2012 01:52AM

Hey, Eastern Va Fan-You Know Nothin:

Hey, if FFX county is so terrible, then how come D5 SoCo went to SB last year in the playoffs and took care of biz? The game was a beatdown.

Everybody in VA knows who Concorde is, but who knows the Cedar Dist? You Loudoun people won some titles b/c the classifications were outdated and you beat up on smaller schools. That's exactly what would happen if you came to play any team in Concorde besides Herndon. You really make me laugh, talking about AYFL. Bring one of those teams to PG County and see what happens. Ever wonder why DeMatha scrimmages W'field and not you?


Eastern Va Fan - You know nothin Wrote:
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> You really seem sort of stupid. I was talking
> about Loudoun talent, not just Broad Run. Broad
> Run is down a little this year, but still will
> make the playoffs. As for last year, If their QB
> does not go down in the playoffs last year, they
> likely win their region.
>
> They are 4-3 with their losses coming to two other
> Loudoun teams and Woodbridge. They score 37 on
> Herndon, a much larger school by the way, as are
> all of the Prince William County schools. Why
> didn't you point out how Broad Run has 1600 kids,
> and Battlefield almost 3000? Still, in their
> first year in AAA, they are co-champs in the tough
> Cedar Run District.
>
> Stone Bridge, Briar ( both still undefeated)and
> Broad Run are all well under 2000 enrolled. There
> is not a Fairfax school of that size that has a
> better program than any of the three.
>
> Phoebus is an aberration. They get to recruit by
> being an ROTC school. Plus, they are going down
> to Div 4 in the new classification, and will
> outscore all of their opponents in the playoffs by
> 50 for the next 10 years.
>
> The winner of the Stone Bridge, Briar, Broad Run,
> Tuscarora, etc division will play for the state
> championship if Div 5 every year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: PW in the House ()
Date: October 19, 2012 08:51AM

The point is... schools need to play other schools that are close in size. Yes, Broad Run was winning states when they were larger, but it is now crazy that every school they play ( except other Loudoun schools) have almost twice as many kids. Next year's reclassification will take care of that, although God help the D4 schools that have to deal with Phobus.

However, bro, no chance the Concord is better than Cedar Run. Osboure, who Broad Run beat by 21, beat Hylton by 10. Hylton is destroying everyone else. Stonewall and Battlefield would romp over Chantilly, Centreville, and Robinson. And in two years, Patriot, with almost 300 kids, will be going to states. Count on that.

Prince William and Loudoun offer better football programs than Fairfax.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ShizNiz ()
Date: October 19, 2012 09:02AM

Broad Run and Briar Woods each have 1600 kids. Westfield has 2900.

Put together Broad Run and Briar so that they have the same amount of kids as Westfield, Battlefield, Robinson, etc.... and they win by three touchdowns every week.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: blah blah blah ()
Date: October 19, 2012 09:44AM

Yadda yadda yadda with the Fairfax v. Prince William v. Loudoun talk. It's like you guys are arguing over who is the tallest midget. If you looked outside of your little bubble, there are conferences with schools of similar sizes in places like Ohio, Florida, Texas, etc. that would routinely dismantle any conference NoVa put up against it. How about getting back to enjoying the games for what they are and letting things be decided on the field and in the playoffs?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NoVAfbfan ()
Date: October 19, 2012 10:30AM

PW in the House Wrote:
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> The point is... schools need to play other schools
> that are close in size. Yes, Broad Run was
> winning states when they were larger, but it is
> now crazy that every school they play ( except
> other Loudoun schools) have almost twice as many
> kids. Next year's reclassification will take care
> of that, although God help the D4 schools that
> have to deal with Phobus.
>
> However, bro, no chance the Concord is better than
> Cedar Run. Osboure, who Broad Run beat by 21,
> beat Hylton by 10. Hylton is destroying everyone
> else. Stonewall and Battlefield would romp over
> Chantilly, Centreville, and Robinson. And in two
> years, Patriot, with almost 300 kids, will be
> going to states. Count on that.
>
> Prince William and Loudoun offer better football
> programs than Fairfax.


I know you are just kidding with the Prince William football better than Fairfax football. Centreville beat Hylton in their scrimmage and they are probably 3 or 4th best team in the Concorde. Stonewall is a 1 year blip and will fade back to mediocrity next year. Battlefield is the only program in PW County and they would be just another team in the Concorde. Hylton and Woodbridge all have taalent but no coaching. They all get waxed in the playoffs because they never get any better during the year. Thats why Battlefield beats Hylton every year in the playoffs. We will see about Patriot, depends on how there Coaching staff develops them. Northern Region and Eastern Region dominate the State... check the record!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NOVA ()
Date: October 19, 2012 10:46AM

"Centreville beat Hylton in a scrimmage."

Yeah, and Lake Braddock wins 7 v 7 camp every year.

Oh, did you know that Stone Bridge beat Chantilly in Pitt Camp too?

Hysterical. You mean the smae Centreville team that squeeked by Herndon?

Bottom line is this - Northern Virginia foootball - Fairfax, Loudoun, and PW is as good as any region in the state and can compete favorably with Ohio, PA, NJ, MD. Everywhere bu Texas, Florida and California really.

Northen Virginia is the only local state where the top talent doesn't pool at a magnet, ROTC, or private school. The top talent stays split up. Churning out lots of D1 prospects ever year.

Number One recruit in country for 2014 is from Woodbridge.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cvillefan ()
Date: October 19, 2012 10:47AM

Whatever1650 Wrote:
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> Centreville will get their butts kicked. QB for
> them is really bad.


A friend told me about this post and I would love to hear more from you about Cville and specifically their QB. Sounds like you have personal knowledge of the program and kids. What are your expectations for this team? Their QB has lead them to a 5-2 record and played better each week. He is by far the best option they have at QB. He is a better athlete, leader and football player than anyone else thay have. This is a young team progressing and improving headed to the playoffs. They may not win the State this year, but watch out cause Cville is poised in the next couple of years to do what they did last year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: HAHAHAHA ()
Date: October 19, 2012 11:03AM

NOVA Wrote:
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> Bottom line is this - Northern Virginia foootball
> - Fairfax, Loudoun, and PW is as good as any
> region in the state and can compete favorably with
> Ohio

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: HS Football ()
Date: October 19, 2012 11:45AM

The top 20 teams in Ohio would beat the all of the Concorde Teams by 20-30 pts. The Ohio schools have slightly less or equal skill talent than the beach teams, but way more line talent. The coaching staffs are ususally very strong as well and they play against each other all year which makes them much better. Northern Virginia just has too many non-football playing demographics in its schools which really limits how good they can be.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: numbercruncher ()
Date: October 19, 2012 12:00PM

ShizNiz Wrote:
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> Broad Run and Briar Woods each have 1600 kids.
> Westfield has 2900.

Point made but Westfield enrollment is declining every year. Current enrollment is 2791.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: bulldawg ()
Date: October 19, 2012 01:15PM

I am a Westfield fan, but find all this talk annoying. Who cares who is better than who? Let them play on the field. My opinion on Westfield is their coaching differentiates them. They have good, but not great players (not many go to D-1) and they are never very big. From observation, most times teams like Westield and Centreville best their competition because they have solid coaching.

And lets be real, even with the smaller enrollment, Briar Woods would be a tough out for the Conorde teams this year. Broad Run not so much this year and Stone Bridge is always legit....it's just too bad they dont have more competition in their own district year in and year out.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 19, 2012 04:48PM

PW in the House Wrote:
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> However, bro, no chance the Concord is better than
> Cedar Run.


To compare the Cedar Run district to the Concorde is absolutely comical. Then to suggest the district is better than the Concorde is beyond ridiculous. Not even going to argue this. Go post about the Cedar Run in the PW section.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: October 19, 2012 11:13PM

Westfield 28-14. Oakton scored on the first drive of the second half to make it 21-14. Followed that with a drive that ended in a missed fg followed by another that ended in a blocked punt. Westfield was definitely the better team and made fewer mistakes, although having an undersized defense will catch up to them in the state playoffs.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Loudon is West Virginia ()
Date: October 19, 2012 11:54PM

Why are the Loudon inbreds on this board? Isn't there
A sister available? Go back Go back Go back into the woods.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WHS ()
Date: October 20, 2012 12:44AM

Is it me or do the people over at Gameday magazine seem to hate on Westfield? Last time I checked, we are undefeated and haven't lost a regular season game since the 2010 regular season since the class of 2011 were seniors. Congrats on the homecoming win Westfield, keep up with the dominance!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WHS ()
Date: October 20, 2012 12:47AM

Those boys over in loudon are pretty good, let's put them with the boys in Western fairfax so we can have some really good football, I like the sound of a concorde district plus stone bridge and broad run

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: October 20, 2012 08:36AM

Based on ...?

WHS Wrote:
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> Is it me or do the people over at Gameday magazine
> seem to hate on Westfield? Last time I checked, we
> are undefeated and haven't lost a regular season
> game since the 2010 regular season since the class
> of 2011 were seniors. Congrats on the homecoming
> win Westfield, keep up with the dominance!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: October 20, 2012 12:47PM

Random Dude Wrote:
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> Based on ...?
>
> WHS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is it me or do the people over at Gameday
> magazine
> > seem to hate on Westfield? Last time I checked,
> we
> > are undefeated and haven't lost a regular
> season
> > game since the 2010 regular season since the
> class
> > of 2011 were seniors. Congrats on the
> homecoming
> > win Westfield, keep up with the dominance!



I actually think that Gameday is pretty supportive of the Westfield program.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Jim Mora ()
Date: October 20, 2012 08:20PM

How are playoff teams picked in VHSL?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Power Points ()
Date: October 20, 2012 08:40PM

Jim Mora Wrote:
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> How are playoff teams picked in VHSL?


Based on power points, look at the VHSL handbook at http://www.vhsl.org/eligibility.vhsl-handbook

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: October 21, 2012 08:40AM

Current Power Points for Northern Region Div 5 & 6

Division 5
Stone Bridge 246
Madison 238
Yorktown 234
Hayfield 201
Edison 187
Langley 186
McLean 186
South County 181
Jefferson 176
Lee 170
Mount Vernon 165
Falls Church 147
Stuart 139
Marshall 129
Wakefield 127




Division 6
Westfield 266
Centreville 226
Lake Braddock 222
Chantilly 220
West Potomac 218
Oakton 215
Fairfax 197
Robinson 197
West Springfield 195
Washington-Lee 178
T.C. Williams 167
South Lakes 160
W.T. Woodson 160
Herndon 150
Annandale 145

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 21, 2012 10:18AM

The Centreville-Chantilly game was a suprise. Chantilly had been playing great football and last couple of weeks and jumped out to a 17-0 lead. From there they looked horrendus and let a Centreville team with a mediocre offense score 6 touchdowns on consecutive possessions (really 7, they kicked a FG from the 1 yard line at the end of the game). It looked very similar to the way Chantilly played to conclude last season's second half. I really do not think they will be able to recover from that game and have had a fork put in them.

They were absolutely man handled. Now you got a great game Friday essentially for the district championship. Westfield wins and they win the district. Centreville wins and then beats Oakton they are the champions. I don't expect this game to be real close with Westfield dominating, but for another year it is a very meaningful game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The man ()
Date: October 21, 2012 04:10PM

Chantilly is a fraud. Centreville has mostly sophomores and a few juniors who are their impact players and they dropped 45 on Chantilly. When your "leaders" are kids like Sonny Romine and Trey Coates, you have problems.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Purple Knight ()
Date: October 21, 2012 04:41PM

They played like crap, but you ain't a fraud when you lose to Westfield by 3, you ain't a fraud when you demolish Oakton.

The fact is Chantilly has plenty of talent and should be far more successful than they've been. I hate to call out coaches, but it is clear as day the coaching staffs at Westfield and Centreville are miles ahead of Chantilly. Chantilly's coaching just gets away with it because they win most of their games due to a huge talent differential.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Purple Fan ()
Date: October 21, 2012 05:27PM

As much as I love chantilly, we lost the westfield game (meaning it was our game to win), got handed the Oakton game because of the turnovers and bad qb play, and got out coached by centreville. I hope the team comes ready to play the rest of the way. We need a good 1st round playoff matchup, I hope Braddock; or centreville again to show them who's boss

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The man ()
Date: October 21, 2012 06:21PM

Typical. Blame the coaches. Again, look at your senior leadership or lack thereof. Happened last year and will happen again. Implosion coming

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Purple Knight ()
Date: October 21, 2012 06:46PM

Senior leadership is a stupid argument for the team not knowing what they're doing. The leaders on last year's team were juniors. That's why they were supposed to be so good this year. You dig?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ATU89 ()
Date: October 21, 2012 07:48PM

Westfield has been really surprising me this year. They are 8-0 with many quality wins considering how young they are. They have 4 sophomores on defense (Gibson,Moore,Song,Martinez) and one on offense. The key for them to win agaisnt a talented centreville team is to contain AJ Turner.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: BulldawgFan ()
Date: October 21, 2012 10:33PM

ATU89 Wrote:
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> Westfield has been really surprising me this year.
> They are 8-0 with many quality wins considering
> how young they are. They have 4 sophomores on
> defense (Gibson,Moore,Song,Martinez) and one on
> offense. The key for them to win agaisnt a
> talented centreville team is to contain AJ Turner.


Westfield is the number one ranked D6 school in the state, don't know why they're suprising you anymore if you've been watching them. They will have NO trouble with Centreville next Friday.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeFB ()
Date: October 21, 2012 11:30PM

steve k2 Wrote:
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> The Centreville-Chantilly game was a suprise.
> Chantilly had been playing great football and last
> couple of weeks and jumped out to a 17-0 lead.
> From there they looked horrendus and let a
> Centreville team with a mediocre offense score 6
> touchdowns on consecutive possessions (really 7,
> they kicked a FG from the 1 yard line at the end
> of the game). It looked very similar to the way
> Chantilly played to conclude last season's second
> half. I really do not think they will be able to
> recover from that game and have had a fork put in
> them.
>
> They were absolutely man handled. Now you got a
> great game Friday essentially for the district
> championship. Westfield wins and they win the
> district. Centreville wins and then beats Oakton
> they are the champions. I don't expect this game
> to be real close with Westfield dominating, but
> for another year it is a very meaningful game.


You must be a Chantilly fan, MEDIOCRE OFFENSE??? REALLY!! The team and offense is young BUT ANYTHING BUT MEDIOCRE. Chantilly as usual has NO HEART and once they got down they were DONE.

All you need to know about Chantilly is to look at their QB come through the handshake line after the game. Take a look and then reply back here CLASSLESS!!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ATU89 ()
Date: October 22, 2012 06:34AM

I meant they are surprising in the sense they graduated virutally all their starters from last year and with their youth they have been dominant. Really shows how good their coaching staff is. People give too much critique on their D but Shields and his young players will hold it down this year and more to come

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Dominate This ()
Date: October 22, 2012 09:51AM

Hey Dominance


While I agree the Liberty teams suck with the exception of Madison and Langley - the Loudoun teams also suck Briar Woods included!!! Until BW stops being pussies and being a big fish in a small pond they are nothing they beat teams they are considerably bigger than and should beat and then think they have accomplished something. They run up points against pathetic teams in Loudoun and then think they are good. SB beat everyone in the Dulles district for years by an average of 50 points a game they moved up to AAA as soon as they could while BW cheats to stay in the Dulles and D4 they should have been D5 years ago = can you say PUSSIES!!!! Have BW Play in D5 states and even win one game and then BW can talk = and guess what the D6 guys still won't respect you either, Example Stone Bridge has never lost to big bad Westfield the defacto top dog in the Concorde and no one respects SB because they won't play up in the Concorde even though they are not D6 size. Every ass wipe on this board thinks the Concorde is the be all and end all when in fact they are simply above average football teams with maybe a great team that jells every few years not unlike every other high school district every where

By the way Broad Run never pushed SB lines around this year or last BR built a big first half lead last year on a few big plays not by pushing around SB's line, and in the end they chumped out and lost to a SB team that for that year they were probably better than but instead showed they could not handle the heat of playing up even in a year when SB started 1 senior lineman and BR had a team of seniors that had played together for 3 years that was senior dominated and made up of multi year D4 champs but they still couldn't beat what was a bad SB team what does that say about the teams in Loudoun

As far as Allen is concerned he is the best defensive player I have seen in years of watching NR Football. Teams such as BR and now every Liberty team run any where but near him = watched the Mclean game Friday night he only had to play 1 half and every run was to the opposite side of him every team including BR runs away from him. Hard to have to many tackles when every play is on the other side of the field

I also happen to know that SB does not trust that this new alignment will last and they would then be stuck playing bottom feeders in Loudoun and winning by 50 again every week. If they switched now they will end up getting even less recognition for the team and players in the process. Switching to the Loudoun District still would only give them two decent district matchups BR would replace the Langley game as a decent game with SB always winning and BW would replace Madison as being the only team that might beat them and still only beating them once out of every 10+ games. So what does SB gain by joining a district they don't think will last. Especially with enrollment figures always moving around both BR and BW will go running back to the comforts of D4 as soon as they can scheme their way down again

Ashburn youth leagues also are no better than any other league actually they are no different than any other Daddy run league so get over yourself if you think AYFL is something special it's the same league as every where else = run by ex jocks or jock wannabees living life through their kids and only coaching their own kid and moving on nothing that people are moving to Loudoun to join that's a joke right

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Posting for no good reason ()
Date: October 22, 2012 11:49AM

I would agree that the "surprise" comes from Westfield's level of success vs. their graduation of 40 seniors last year.

You would think that a team like Chantilly would have the upper hand with the amount of returning players they have this year in key positions - but having seen both of these teams you can really tell the difference in coaching between the two schools.

Westfield's biggest area of concern is their defense. Offensively, they can go toe-to-toe with anyone in the region, but defensively they give up a ton of rushing yards. I have no doubts that they will win the region title at this point, but I see them having a hard time making it all the way to a state title without a strong run defense.

BulldawgFan Wrote:
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> ATU89 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Westfield has been really surprising me this
> year.
> > They are 8-0 with many quality wins considering
> > how young they are. They have 4 sophomores on
> > defense (Gibson,Moore,Song,Martinez) and one on
> > offense. The key for them to win agaisnt a
> > talented centreville team is to contain AJ
> Turner.
>
>
> Westfield is the number one ranked D6 school in
> the state, don't know why they're suprising you
> anymore if you've been watching them. They will
> have NO trouble with Centreville next Friday.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: October 22, 2012 03:48PM

Dominate This Wrote:
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> Hey Dominance
>
>
> While I agree the Liberty teams suck with the
> exception of Madison and Langley - the Loudoun
> teams also suck Briar Woods included!!! Until BW
> stops being pussies and being a big fish in a
> small pond they are nothing they beat teams they
> are considerably bigger than and should beat and
> then think they have accomplished something. They
> run up points against pathetic teams in Loudoun
> and then think they are good. SB beat everyone in
> the Dulles district for years by an average of 50
> points a game they moved up to AAA as soon as they
> could while BW cheats to stay in the Dulles and D4
> they should have been D5 years ago = can you say
> PUSSIES!!!! Have BW Play in D5 states and even win
> one game and then BW can talk = and guess what the
> D6 guys still won't respect you either, Example
> Stone Bridge has never lost to big bad Westfield
> the defacto top dog in the Concorde and no one
> respects SB because they won't play up in the
> Concorde even though they are not D6 size. Every
> ass wipe on this board thinks the Concorde is the
> be all and end all when in fact they are simply
> above average football teams with maybe a great
> team that jells every few years not unlike every
> other high school district every where
>
> By the way Broad Run never pushed SB lines around
> this year or last BR built a big first half lead
> last year on a few big plays not by pushing around
> SB's line, and in the end they chumped out and
> lost to a SB team that for that year they were
> probably better than but instead showed they could
> not handle the heat of playing up even in a year
> when SB started 1 senior lineman and BR had a team
> of seniors that had played together for 3 years
> that was senior dominated and made up of multi
> year D4 champs but they still couldn't beat what
> was a bad SB team what does that say about the
> teams in Loudoun
>
> As far as Allen is concerned he is the best
> defensive player I have seen in years of watching
> NR Football. Teams such as BR and now every
> Liberty team run any where but near him = watched
> the Mclean game Friday night he only had to play 1
> half and every run was to the opposite side of him
> every team including BR runs away from him. Hard
> to have to many tackles when every play is on the
> other side of the field
>
> I also happen to know that SB does not trust that
> this new alignment will last and they would then
> be stuck playing bottom feeders in Loudoun and
> winning by 50 again every week. If they switched
> now they will end up getting even less recognition
> for the team and players in the process. Switching
> to the Loudoun District still would only give them
> two decent district matchups BR would replace the
> Langley game as a decent game with SB always
> winning and BW would replace Madison as being the
> only team that might beat them and still only
> beating them once out of every 10+ games. So what
> does SB gain by joining a district they don't
> think will last. Especially with enrollment
> figures always moving around both BR and BW will
> go running back to the comforts of D4 as soon as
> they can scheme their way down again
>
> Ashburn youth leagues also are no better than any
> other league actually they are no different than
> any other Daddy run league so get over yourself if
> you think AYFL is something special it's the same
> league as every where else = run by ex jocks or
> jock wannabees living life through their kids and
> only coaching their own kid and moving on nothing
> that people are moving to Loudoun to join that's a
> joke right


Wow, lots of anger in this email. Stone Bridge is a legit team. They beat Westfield fair and square the two times they played....17-14 and 7-3. Both Westfield teams were far from their best, but SB won the games. Westfield would likely have beaten SB last year....this year, not so sure.

The point is, if SB were in the Concorde, they would be like every other Concorde team (except Herndon) in that none of those games are easy. Their district is a joke (not their fault), but even the teams like Madison , Fairfax, etc get smoked by a good Concorde team and if you are at the game, the talent, execution and coaching differential is significant.

Give props to SB, year in and year out they are excellent, but i dont think their district schedule prepares them well for what they encounter in the States. And I do think they are very very good this year (though I am not sold on their QB).

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: October 22, 2012 04:57PM

Anyone who thinks that Centreville vs Westfield won't be close is kidding themselves. With everything on the line, this game could be one of the best in the past couple of years. I'd say Westfield wins, but everyone last week was saying that Cville didn't have a chance against Tilly. It wouldn't shock me if they proved everyone wrong again.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: October 22, 2012 05:49PM

Centreville/Westfield will be a close/good game. Agree.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Purple Knight ()
Date: October 22, 2012 10:29PM

14 points against Herndon, Robinson scored 52, Oakton scored 55

17 points against Hayfield

21 points against Robinson

Those numbers are pretty mediocre. Chantilly had scored 35+ in 5 games. A much tougher schedule too. This is why Chantilly was such a heavy favorite. Props to Centreville for dominating the game, but my comments were not out of left field regarding Centreville. Chantilly was outcoached, and your comment on heart might even be accurate.

One thing we have to stop discussing on here is the hand shake lines. West Po-Lake Braddock, now this, who cares how a hand shake line ends? I was at the game and have no idea what you're talking about, but ofcourse after getting hammered in a game you were up 17-0 there will be emotion, not an excuse, but grow a pair and stop talking all this sportsmanship stuff.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: HEHE LOVE IT ()
Date: October 22, 2012 11:23PM

I like how those on the side of bad sportsmen demand sportsmanship be overlooked. :)

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Fairness ()
Date: October 23, 2012 01:07AM

Ok... sorry to jump in late on this, but I am a head linesman in the area, and will try and set some things straight here.

Schools in Loudoun like Broad Run and Briar, even Stone Bridge have less than 2000 students. Broad Run and Briar are under 1700.

PW County schools try and jam 3000 in a single high school.

Fairfax County lies in the middle.

You call out Briar for not playing up? Why should they? They have 1000 students less than the D5 schools in Fairfax. You say Broad Run will run it up again when they are back to Div 4 like that is a bad thing.

That is the size of their schools pal.

Youth leagues, facilities, money, coaching all favor Loudoun now over Fairfax. It is the natural progression.

Westfield, Chantilly, and Centreville are always good nowadays, and the balance of power in FFX has shifted west. Folks wanted out of places like Annandale, Falls Church, Reston, and Herndon.

Eastern Fairfax schools will soon be as bad as DC public schools. Well, not THAT bad, but you get my point.

And then eventually, Tuscarora and Woodgrove will be powerhouses.

By the way, a mediocre Broad Run team handled Martinsburg in a scrimmage for the second year in a row. Martinsburg wins in WVA every year. Balance of power won't shift out THAT far.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: White Flight ()
Date: October 23, 2012 01:11AM

Real reason why Western Fairfax and Eastern Loudoun dominate?
Whitey wants no part of those Fairfax towns now filled with asians, indians, and latinos.
They are good at tennis, SAT's, and soccer - but not football.
They big white lineman and talented QB's moved out first, then the speedy black receivers and running backs came.
Annandale's line averages 165 pounds per man, or 5 more than Stuart's!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Stone Bridge plant! ()
Date: October 23, 2012 01:15AM

If Jon Allen is the best you have seen, then you must only be watching Stone Bridge play. Did you see Washington Post a couple of days ago? A junior by the name of Hand ( Woodbridge )is number one prospect in the entire country for 2014.

Ask Broad Run kids who is better - Hand or Allen. They saw them both. It is not even a contest.

And yes, Ryan Burns ( Stanford recruit ) has a cannon for an arm, but no touch and no football savvy. Won't do anything at D1 level.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cavs ()
Date: October 23, 2012 06:48AM

WTW loses again. Looking at back to back 2 win seasons. Here's the question - how many 2 win seasons do athletic directors give their football coaches before they remove them? 2? 3? 4? More??? As a WTW parent who helps coach basketball at another high school I know for a fact that our staff is not very highly regarded in the area. But they are nice guys and the kids like them so we're torn.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Fact Checking ()
Date: October 23, 2012 07:44AM

Fairness Wrote:
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> Broad Run and Briar are under 1700.
>
> You call out Briar for not playing up? Why should
> they? They have 1000 students less than the D5
> schools in Fairfax.

There are 10 D5 schools in FCPS with fewer than 2,000 students.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Nighthawk ()
Date: October 23, 2012 08:09AM

This is what the playoffs would look like going into week 9

Division 5
Stone Bridge 246 Liberty 1st
Madison 238 Liberty 2nd
Yorktown 234 National 1st
Hayfield 201 National 2nd
Edison 187 National 3rd
Langley 186 Liberty 4th
McLean 186 Liberty 5th
South County 181 Patriot 4th


Jefferson 176
Lee 170
Mount Vernon 165
Falls Church 147
Stuart 139
Marshall 129
Wakefield 127

Division 6
Westfield 266 Concorde 1st
Centreville 226 Concorde 3rd
Lake Braddock 222 Patriot 1st
Chantilly 220 Concorde 4th
West Potomac 218 Patriot 2nd
Oakton 215 Concorde 2nd
Fairfax 197 Liberty 3rd
Robinson 197 Concorde 5th

West Springfield 195 Patriot 3rd
Washington-Lee 178
T.C. Williams 167
South Lakes 160
W.T. Woodson 160
Herndon 150
Annandale 145



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/23/2012 08:09AM by Nighthawk.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cvillebacker ()
Date: October 23, 2012 09:03AM

Purple Knight Wrote:
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> 14 points against Herndon, Robinson scored 52,
> Oakton scored 55
>
> 17 points against Hayfield
>
> 21 points against Robinson
>
> Those numbers are pretty mediocre. Chantilly had
> scored 35+ in 5 games. A much tougher schedule
> too. This is why Chantilly was such a heavy
> favorite. Props to Centreville for dominating the
> game, but my comments were not out of left field
> regarding Centreville. Chantilly was outcoached,
> and your comment on heart might even be accurate.
>
> One thing we have to stop discussing on here is
> the hand shake lines. West Po-Lake Braddock, now
> this, who cares how a hand shake line ends? I was
> at the game and have no idea what you're talking
> about, but ofcourse after getting hammered in a
> game you were up 17-0 there will be emotion, not
> an excuse, but grow a pair and stop talking all
> this sportsmanship stuff.


SHOCKING! A Chantilly fan/parent tired of talking about Sportsmanship. You just summed up the problem with your team right there. You guys are the ultimate Front runners, as long as you are winning and the things are going great, all is well. As soon as there is some adversity, the kids quit and the stands empty. Look at last year, that team quit half way through the year and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: October 23, 2012 09:21AM

Shouldn't you been in school CVille LB? CVille shouldn't be talking sportsmanship when everyone knows a handful of players got caught drinking at homecoming and it was swept under the rug. The mandatory one month suspensions that would have ended their region title run were never considered, and the blame was passed on to other students.

The most gutless example of a poor school administration I had ever heard.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KingConcorde ()
Date: October 23, 2012 06:57PM

Westfield - Centreville Week!!! It's gonna be a good one! Who you got???

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: CvilleFan ()
Date: October 23, 2012 06:57PM

NR Fanatic Wrote:
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> Shouldn't you been in school CVille LB? CVille
> shouldn't be talking sportsmanship when everyone
> knows a handful of players got caught drinking at
> homecoming and it was swept under the rug. The
> mandatory one month suspensions that would have
> ended their region title run were never
> considered, and the blame was passed on to other
> students.
>
> The most gutless example of a poor school
> administration I had ever heard.


The two players were suspended for a month. One got back in time for the 2nd round of playoffs, and another was either hurt or just didn't play. Please, check the facts or just don't post stuff like this.

PS: Wouldn't have ended title run even if suspended for the rest of the season.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: InsiderFB ()
Date: October 23, 2012 08:54PM

NR Fanatic Wrote:
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> Shouldn't you been in school CVille LB? CVille
> shouldn't be talking sportsmanship when everyone
> knows a handful of players got caught drinking at
> homecoming and it was swept under the rug. The
> mandatory one month suspensions that would have
> ended their region title run were never
> considered, and the blame was passed on to other
> students.
>
> The most gutless example of a poor school
> administration I had ever heard.


Let me guess you are Whatever1650 and now that you are no longer part of the team no you are ready to turn over on your former teammates you fucking pussy. You wonder why you didnt play you fucking pussy, nobody had any respect while you were on the team, now we all hate your guts you fucking RAT. We know who you are and you will pay!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: purpletruth ()
Date: October 23, 2012 10:13PM

NR Fanatic Wrote:
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> Shouldn't you been in school CVille LB? CVille
> shouldn't be talking sportsmanship when everyone
> knows a handful of players got caught drinking at
> homecoming and it was swept under the rug. The
> mandatory one month suspensions that would have
> ended their region title run were never
> considered, and the blame was passed on to other
> students.
>
> The most gutless example of a poor school
> administration I had ever heard.


REALLY!! worst case huh ... what about our guys who stole beer from our local convenience store and NEVER paid any price for it. You wanna compare admins when it comes to kids not having to pay a price for stupid stunts ....... Our QB & DL were caught by the FCPD and we still got them playing on Fridays! The kids caught stealing the beer are the ones not shaking hands after the game... FIGURES!!!................. Losers leading Losers

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: October 23, 2012 10:41PM

What in the world are you talking about Purple Truth? That's a load of crap.

In the Centreville case, 2 players got suspended for Centreville, there were 5 involved.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: clearing ()
Date: October 23, 2012 11:25PM

NR Fanatic Wrote:
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> What in the world are you talking about Purple
> Truth? That's a load of crap.
>
> In the Centreville case, 2 players got suspended
> for Centreville, there were 5 involved.


There were 5 involved but only 2 Centreville football players who got handed their suspensions and served them. One other involved was the Oakton player who actually DID get swept under the rug and the other two kids involved were girls at Centreville; irrelevant.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Real truth ()
Date: October 24, 2012 05:45AM

The Oakton player was suspended. He was suspended by the team for being in the situation. When he was questioned at centreville he blew a 0.00 and had no drugs or alcohol on his person. The admin and SRO reported that to Oakton, so the player was put back on the team. The centreville player was drunk and had weed on him. He should have been expelled, however his mom is Bill Curan's secretary. That is why he was back on the team in the playoffs. He only missed two games.

The Chantilly players were caught a stealing beer out of people's garages right before the season started. There was no punishment or suspension from the team.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeFan ()
Date: October 24, 2012 06:57AM

I ams sure none of the people posting on this forum drank beer in High School! Now that we have the teenage indescretion portion of forum over, lets talk some football!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Open the garage door ()
Date: October 24, 2012 07:28AM

Garage hopping is the coolest! That was so fun in high school...until you get caught. Still no better way to get your [free] booze than from the stocked fridges of unassuming suburbanites.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: odd ()
Date: October 24, 2012 08:55AM

what's so great about drinking anyway?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The RealerTruth ()
Date: October 24, 2012 09:21AM

Real truth Wrote:
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> The Oakton player was suspended. He was suspended
> by the team for being in the situation. When he
> was questioned at centreville he blew a 0.00 and
> had no drugs or alcohol on his person. The admin
> and SRO reported that to Oakton, so the player was
> put back on the team. The centreville player was
> drunk and had weed on him. He should have been
> expelled, however his mom is Bill Curan's
> secretary. That is why he was back on the team in
> the playoffs. He only missed two games.
>
> The Chantilly players were caught a stealing beer
> out of people's garages right before the season
> started. There was no punishment or suspension
> from the team.


Almost got it right, except the Oakton kid, who is still playing this year, was hammered and did blow a high number and the Oakton admins suspended him for 1 game. The Cville kids had no drugs and served the FCPS standard suspension. Of course this old news, from last year. The current news is the Chantilly kids stealing and getting caught and NOTHING being done about it. So if your keeping score at home:

Oakton & Chantilly administrations are Cheaters. Centreville admin Compliant

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 24, 2012 09:28AM

Let's get back to football! Here is the spread for this week's games.

Centreville @ Westfield (-17.0)
Hayfield (-14.0) @ Falls Church
Herndon @ Chantilly (-35.0)
Jefferson @ McLean (-6.0)
Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ Woodson
Langley (-7.5) @ Fairfax
Marshall @ South Lakes (-42.0)
Mount Vernon @ Yorktown (-28.0)
Robinson @ Oakton (-3.0)
South County (-14.0) @ Annandale
Stone Bridge (-21.0) @ Madison
TC Williams (-6.5) @ Lee
Wakefield @ Edison (-30.0)
Washington Lee (-7.0) @ Stuart
West Potomac (-9.5) @ West Springfield

Centreville-Westfield is essentially the Concorde District Championship game. May be a good game, but I see Westfield winning fairly easily. If Centreville loses and then loses to Oakton next week (which is very possible), they can fall as far as 5th place in the district to finish the season.

Robinson-Oakton is a big game for obtaining a home playoff game. This is probably the closest matchup of the week if the good Robinson shows up.

South County after starting 1-5 looks on pace to make the playoffs again. With power points and lots of tough D6 competition under their belt, this is a dangerous low seed come playoff time. Pannoni is doing it again, watch out.

Stone Bridge-Madison is the Liberty District Championship game. Both come in undefeated in district, but no one thinks Madison has a shot, right? I like Stone Bridge by atleast 3 touchdowns and that might be a little generous. Here is hoping Madison proves me wrong, but Stone Bridge being in the Liberty District is no fun.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NOVADUDE? ()
Date: October 24, 2012 11:36AM

Who keeps beer in their garage? Archie Bunker?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Beer in Garage ()
Date: October 24, 2012 11:44AM

Ok, so my brother doesn't live in Fairfax, but this story did crack me up.

He lives in Raleigh, near the TPC golf course. Nice neighborhood.

Wakes up Sunday morning a couple of weeks ago, and finds that his fridge in the garage has been raided. He and his wife drink it up pretty good, always have friends over, etc. Figures they took couple, three cases of Miller Lite, but also swiped his warm cases of Guinness and Fat Tire.

It gets worse, or better... His garage floor has been spray painted. Crude drawings of big cocks all over his floor.

They also write on the floor, " Hey dumbass, next time don't leave your car unlocked with the opener inside."

They also wrote all over the place " Niggers", "stupid niggers", " Go home niggers."

He and his wife are as white as snow. He was mad. All I could do was laugh.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: buffalo springfield ()
Date: October 24, 2012 12:52PM

For what it's worth, I don't think WF is a sure fire bet to win the NR title this year. They are good and well coached, but this is not last year's team. As several observers have noted, their defense is not invincible, and they can definitely be run on. Oakton had over 200 yards of rushing in the first half alone against them, and we all know what Joe Wilson of Robinson did against them.

Unlike last year, when CVille and WF were head and shoulders above everyone else, and as the No 1 and 2 seeds, they met in the finals, we should not be surprised if any combination of Concorde teams and perhaps LB make the finals. None of these teams are scared of each other, and with a bad call here, a key injury there, a critical turnover here, who knows what will happen.

It will make for an exciting playoffs season!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde ()
Date: October 24, 2012 04:11PM

steve k2 Wrote:
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> Let's get back to football! Here is the spread
> for this week's games.
>
> Centreville @ Westfield (-17.0)
> Herndon @ Chantilly (-35.0)
> Robinson @ Oakton (-3.0)

Westfield will win, but I don't see them covering the spread.

No chance for Tilly to cover. They've essentially quit, and Herndon's getting better. Tilly by like 21.

Joe Wilson's gonna come to play. I see Robinson winning in a very close one.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: bulldawg ()
Date: October 24, 2012 05:45PM

Full disclosure, Major Westfied fan here. I agree with Buffalo Springfield here....I think among the few good teams at the top of the Concorde and D6, anyone can win. I include Westfield, Centreville, Oakton, Chantilly, Lake Braddock in that mix. There are no nights off in the Concorde (and before someone says what about Herndon, I remember a a couple of years ago when a good Westfield team went to Herndon and got beat........You dont think Brian Day would love to put a loss on that Westfield staff?)

And, who wants to play Robinson/Joe Wilson in the playoffs? Not me, once is enough! Westfield waxed Lake Braddock, but it appears they are getting it together.

Westfield will have revenge on their mind and will want to win at home. As with last year, the most important thing is that you win the second game, not the first!

Should be exciting.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 24, 2012 06:24PM

I agree with most of these points, Herndon is a give me though. Back when Herndon beat Westfield at their homecoming, they were competitive, I think that was a 5 win season for them. The last two years they've been so over matched.

Then to the poster above who said Chantilly has quit. How can you conclude that after 3 bad quarters? They played absolutely terrible, but that doesn't mean they've quit on the season. They took Westfield to the wire, then crushed Oakton the two previous weeks.

Also to the poster above, you say Herndon is getting better and Chantilly won't cover the spread. Their last two district games Herndon lost to Robinson 52-0, and Oakton 55-7, and this was in the last 3 weeks. How are they getting better? They're actually getting worse. Whether or not Chantilly wins by 35 it should be a very comfortable game for them.

Then I agree with bulldawg, it can be anyone in the Concorde or Lake Braddock to take the region this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: mr. sportsmanship ()
Date: October 24, 2012 07:02PM

im putting braddock on upset alert against woodson. got woodson squeaking out a big win to propel them into the playoffs

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ACETRAPSTARZ ()
Date: October 24, 2012 07:45PM

Westfield is the best team in the region and they will be great years to come due to their youth. Hell they have 6 starting sophomores and a bunch of juniors. Mistakes will be made due to their inexperience, but considering how far they have come this season...better watch out for the bulldogs

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Herndon Fan ()
Date: October 24, 2012 09:59PM

Herndon is getting blown out because the majority of the team is playing on JV and varsity. A lot of their starters have played a 16 game season already. How is that safe?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 24, 2012 10:29PM

Herndon lists 71 players on their roster. Why are they doubling up?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: reggie ()
Date: October 25, 2012 11:01AM

all kids get to play 40 quarters (pre playoffs) combined between varsity and JV.
I'm sure the Herndon staff is monitoring this. If a kid didn't play JV in the beginning of season a good plan is to then play them in certain quarters to maximize their development.

All the people moaning on here haven't a clue how to develop a team.

Between the staff and the Ath. Director Herndon knows the rules.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Hey Bulldawg ()
Date: October 25, 2012 11:39AM

Wow, lots of anger in this email. Stone Bridge is a legit team. They beat Westfield fair and square the two times they played....17-14 and 7-3. Both Westfield teams were far from their best, but SB won the games. Westfield would likely have beaten SB last year....this year, not so sure.

Yes Loudoun team fans trashing SB pisses me off but you missed the point - point was Loudoun schools playing down think they can trash SB for playing in the Liberty and not the new powerhouse district soon to be formed in Loudoun and playing and beating Westfield was only an example that beating Westfield gains no respect from the Concorde is great crowd, so winning in d4 gains even less

The point is, if SB were in the Concorde, they would be like every other Concorde team (except Herndon) in that none of those games are easy. Their district is a joke (not their fault), but even the teams like Madison , Fairfax, etc get smoked by a good Concorde team and if you are at the game, the talent, execution and coaching differential is significant.

I disagree with this point my view is while they would not have dominated the Concorde as they have the Liberty they would have won the Concorde in 06, toss up 07, won in 08, 10, maybe 11 but that would have been close simply because the games played would have been year end not beginning of season although as I type 11 may be a stretch and would have won it this year as well - but we will never know and shouldn't because SB is not D6 size - you will disagree but I think SB would have 5 Concorde crowns out of the 8 years they have been AAA But yes the games would be a lot tougher the last 5 weeks of the season

Give props to SB, year in and year out they are excellent, but I dont think their district schedule prepares them well for what they encounter in the States. And I do think they are very very good this year (though I am not sold on their QB).

Agree with the soft schedule prep to a degree = they traditionally get right back to a tough NR championship game, then a tough game first round of states etc, but nothing seems to have them prepared for Phoebus so I'm not sure how playing in the Liberty effects that. Never mentioned their QB and I agree to the point that at times I think he sucks but he seems to be getting more confident and able to actually perform in a game so let's see how that pans out

To another poster Hand is not in the NR he is in the NW so your point of him being better than Allen may well be true the only opportunity I would get to see a NW team play would be to go to a Broad Run game and why would anyone but a Broad Run fan do that if I want to see Hand play I go watch him play real competition.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Nighthawk ()
Date: October 25, 2012 11:47AM

Concorde Wrote:
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steve k2 Wrote:
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Let's get back to football! Here is the spread for this week's games.

Robinson @ Oakton (-3.0)

Joe Wilson's gonna come to play. I see Robinson winning in a very close one.
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I agree with this. I think it will be close but I think Robinson takes this game.

The one way Oakton can run away with this game is on special teams.
Robinson's special teams are terrible other than their kicker.
They're terrible at covering kickoffs and punts and they've had a few punts blocked. They're return man fumbles entirely too much, even when he's not pressed.

If Robinson can keep it clean on special teams, then I think Joe Wilson and their running attack will win it for them in the end.

To beat Robinson, you have to have a passing offense with a good QB. Not that Oakton doesn't have a good QB, he just doesn't compare with the QB's at Stone Bridge, Westfield and Lake Braddock.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: October 25, 2012 05:27PM

InsiderFB Wrote:
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>
> Let me guess you are Whatever1650 and now that you
> are no longer part of the team no you are ready to
> turn over on your former teammates you fucking
> pussy. You wonder why you didnt play you fucking
> pussy, nobody had any respect while you were on
> the team, now we all hate your guts you fucking
> RAT. We know who you are and you will pay!


Wow, are you really threatening a kid? You're pathetic dude.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: October 26, 2012 09:13AM

Stick to the sport on this board and stop trying to intimidate people. FB is just a game; we play it, we talk about it, and that's it. Show us you know something about FB instead of calling people names.


Really? Wrote:
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> InsiderFB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Let me guess you are Whatever1650 and now that
> you
> > are no longer part of the team no you are ready
> to
> > turn over on your former teammates you fucking
> > pussy. You wonder why you didnt play you
> fucking
> > pussy, nobody had any respect while you were on
> > the team, now we all hate your guts you fucking
> > RAT. We know who you are and you will pay!
>
>
> Wow, are you really threatening a kid? You're
> pathetic dude.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 26, 2012 10:42PM

> Centreville @ Westfield (-17.0)
Westfield 40, Centreville 21; told you it wouldn't be close. Centreville is a pretender.

> Hayfield (-14.0) @ Falls Church

> Herndon @ Chantilly (-35.0)
Chantilly 42, Herndon 27; considering Herndon scored 0, 7, 0 against the other Concorde teams is bad news for Chantilly's defense. They look like they're done.


> Jefferson @ McLean (-6.0)
> Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ Woodson
> Langley (-7.5) @ Fairfax
> Marshall @ South Lakes (-42.0)
> Mount Vernon @ Yorktown (-28.0)
> Robinson @ Oakton (-3.0)
Robinson 28, Oakton 27; missed FG in OT


> South County (-14.0) @ Annandale
> Stone Bridge (-21.0) @ Madison
Stone Bridge 42, Madison 0; who's really suprised?


> TC Williams (-6.5) @ Lee
> Wakefield @ Edison (-30.0)
> Washington Lee (-7.0) @ Stuart
> West Potomac (-9.5) @ West Springfield


Post other scores as they come in.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Seahawk Fan ()
Date: October 26, 2012 10:46PM

Marshall 0 @ South Lakes 53

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Fan ()
Date: October 26, 2012 10:55PM

Heard there was a bench clearing brawl at Edison vs Wakefield game. Any info?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 26, 2012 11:02PM

Thomas Jefferson 26 @ McLean 16. Big win for the Colonials.

South County 56 @ Annandale 13. Stallions look like they're going back to the playoffs. Very dangerous team to play in the post season.

Mount Vernon 0 @ Yorktown 35

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: for sure ()
Date: October 26, 2012 11:05PM

Fan Wrote:
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> Heard there was a bench clearing brawl at Edison
> vs Wakefield game. Any info?


Wow if this is true then Parker is gone for sure after this season. Edison has reached lower than before now. Can't produce wins and can't the best attitude from his players. Lewis would have never let it get to that point.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Other Scores ()
Date: October 26, 2012 11:18PM

Here's an upset: West Potomac 10 @ West Springfield 34

Lake Braddock 28 @ Woodson 14 (Woodson is getting better and playing hard)

Langley 21 @ Fairfax 13 Fairfax underperforms again this year.

TC Williams 47 @ Lee 0 Wow.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Witness6996 ()
Date: October 26, 2012 11:39PM

Parker did a great job controlling his players and keeping the situation under control. Enough with blasting Parker, he has done a good job.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KingConcorde ()
Date: October 27, 2012 01:46AM

Westfield played horrible and beat Cvile handily.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 27, 2012 08:57AM

Westfield did not play horrible. What game were you at? They ran the ball at will and put up 40 points. Mullins threw a couple bad passes that were intercepted, but they won the turnover battle 4-2. Westfield jumped out to a 33-7 lead and Centreville got a couple scores against back ups.

Westfield is on another level from Centreville as I was saying this week. If you look at Centreville's scores the only impressive win they have is Chantilly who seems to be unraveling. Centreville is a one and done in this year's playoffs.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 27, 2012 09:12AM

Here's all but one of the scores.

Centreville @ Westfield (-17.0), Westfield wins 40-21

Hayfield (-14.0) @ Falls Church, Hayfield wins 54-21

Herndon @ Chantilly (-35.0), Chantilly wins 42-27; Tilly didn’t play great but 14 of Herndon’s points at the end when it was 42-13 came against 2nd and 3rd string defenders.

Jefferson @ McLean (-6.0), UPSET: TJ wins 26-16

Lake Braddock (-28.0) @ Woodson, Lake Braddock wins 28-14; Woodson is playing good football

Langley (-7.5) @ Fairfax, Langley wins 21-13; spot on with the spread. Fairfax always underperforms, have fun with Stone Bridge next week! They will finish 5-5 where almost every game they have nearly 1000 more kids than their competitors.

Marshall @ South Lakes (-42.0), South Lakes wins 53-0

Mount Vernon @ Yorktown (-28.0), Yorktown wins 35-0

Robinson @ Oakton (-3.0), Robinson wins 28-27, Oakton misses a PAT in OT

South County (-14.0) @ Annandale, South County wins 56-13

Stone Bridge (-21.0) @ Madison, Stone Bridge wins 42-0; now 54-1 in the Liberty District and 8 district championships in as many years.

TC Williams (-6.5) @ Lee, TC Williams wins 47-0

Wakefield @ Edison (-30.0), Edison wins 51-20; killed another spread!

Washington Lee (-7.0) @ Stuart

West Potomac (-9.5) @ West Springfield; UPSET: West Springfield wins 34-10

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: fantasyland ()
Date: October 27, 2012 09:15AM

Witness6996 Wrote:
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> Parker did a great job controlling his players and
> keeping the situation under control. Enough with
> blasting Parker, he has done a good job.


Glad to hear players didn't get too out of control, but the fact remains it did get to a point where it shouldn't have been. And as far as Parker doing a good job....please?!?!?! When he came in he basically got rid of all of Lewis' staff and brought in his own guys. When Lewis was there from '97 til his retirement, he brought them roughly 7/8 district championships (tried to research it, but Parker doesn;t keep the football website going anymore), 1 regional title, 4 regional runner-ups, and 1 state runner-up (didn't even mention his accomplishments in his first run at Edison). Parker's resume shows 0 on every single one of those. Please do not even try to say he has done well as his maximum finish in the lowly National district has been no better than 3rd.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFAN ()
Date: October 27, 2012 12:13PM

steve k2 Wrote:
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> Westfield did not play horrible. What game were
> you at? They ran the ball at will and put up 40
> points. Mullins threw a couple bad passes that
> were intercepted, but they won the turnover battle
> 4-2. Westfield jumped out to a 33-7 lead and
> Centreville got a couple scores against back ups.
>
>
> Westfield is on another level from Centreville as
> I was saying this week. If you look at
> Centreville's scores the only impressive win they
> have is Chantilly who seems to be unraveling.
> Centreville is a one and done in this year's
> playoffs.


Westfield played a pretty good game. All I can say is, if Scott Walter doesn't turn the ball over three times, this one is very much a ballgame. Agree that Westfield is on another level, but they are on another level from everybody, not just Centreville. I believe Centreville has a pretty good chance to get to the region title game if they are on the other side of the bracket than Westfield. I think that they are in the third spot if the playoffs started right now, so that means they wouldn't have to play Westfield until the title game.

Anyone have the full power points?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: October 27, 2012 02:19PM

Here are the power points...
Division 6
Westfield 312 (vs. Herndon 1-8)
Lake Braddock 257 (vs. West Springfield 6-3)
Centreville 254 (vs. Oakton 6-3)
Chantilly 254 (vs. Robinson 5-4)
Robinson 241 (vs. Chantilly 6-3)
West Potomac 240 (vs. T.C. Williams 4-5)
West Springfield 238 (vs. Lake Braddock 7-2)
Oakton 236 (vs. Centreville 6-3)
--------
Fairfax 220 (vs. Stone Bridge 9-0)
Washington-Lee 208 (vs. Yorktown 9-0)
T.C. Williams 203
South Lakes 187
W.T. Woodson 183
Herndon 174
Annandale 164

It is hard to believe that West Potomac has more power points than Oakton. I saw them both play and West Po was awful.

Westfield played well last night, but not their best. The thing with them is they have balance on offense. The passing game was not on last night with C'ville doing alot of blitzing and pressure, but the running game made them pay. Westfield QB also showed he can run too which is another weapon they dont use.....because they dont have to.

Will be interested in outcome of Centreville/Oakton and Chantilly/Robinson next week. AJ Turner is special, and will be a major headache for Concorde opponents the next two years.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bang Bus 69 ()
Date: October 27, 2012 02:39PM

Parker did a good job keeping his team in order. While Lewis did a good job, he recruited, there is no denying that. Bottom line, Lewis is history and any new coach has the right to bring in a staff he is comfortable with. If you are a true eagle fan, support the team and quit reminiscing. The future is now!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: XvKLY ()
Date: October 27, 2012 03:09PM

> Agree that Westfield is on another level, but they
> are on another level from everybody, not just
> Centreville. I believe Centreville has a pretty
> good chance to get to the region title game if
> they are on the other side of the bracket than
> Westfield. I think that they are in the third spot
> if the playoffs started right now, so that means
> they wouldn't have to play Westfield until the
> title game.
>
> Anyone have the full power points?


Westfield is the favorite, but I wouldn't say they are on another level from everyone. Robinson and Chantilly both lost to them by 3 and Oakton was kind of in the game.

Now last year it was obvious that Westfield and Centreville were on another level from everyone; that's what made both games so great and the region final pretty much a certainty. It would not suprise me though this year to see Westfield go down.

Centreville does not have the passing game to do it, the QB throws to many INTs and misses his receivers frequently. The wideouts had Westfield beat atleast 3 times and a bad throw missed them. Chantilly stayed in the game because they actually had a good mix of pass and run, usually they're exclusively run, but have some speed and a good TE so they can hang. I have not seen Robinson play this year but would imagine they can pass the ball better than CVille, although they have that monster HB.

Now for D6 the 8 playoff teams are set. Fairfax ain't competing with Stone Bridge. Chantilly/Robinson will be for a home playoff game, then Oakton/Centreville will be big too.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Northern Region football ()
Date: October 27, 2012 03:31PM

XvKLY Wrote:
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> > Agree that Westfield is on another level, but
> they
> > are on another level from everybody, not just
> > Centreville. I believe Centreville has a pretty
> > good chance to get to the region title game if
> > they are on the other side of the bracket than
> > Westfield. I think that they are in the third
> spot
> > if the playoffs started right now, so that
> means
> > they wouldn't have to play Westfield until the
> > title game.
> >
> > Anyone have the full power points?
>
>
> Westfield is the favorite, but I wouldn't say they
> are on another level from everyone. Robinson and
> Chantilly both lost to them by 3 and Oakton was
> kind of in the game.
>
> Now last year it was obvious that Westfield and
> Centreville were on another level from everyone;
> that's what made both games so great and the
> region final pretty much a certainty. It would
> not suprise me though this year to see Westfield
> go down.
>
> Centreville does not have the passing game to do
> it, the QB throws to many INTs and misses his
> receivers frequently. The wideouts had Westfield
> beat atleast 3 times and a bad throw missed them.
> Chantilly stayed in the game because they actually
> had a good mix of pass and run, usually they're
> exclusively run, but have some speed and a good TE
> so they can hang. I have not seen Robinson play
> this year but would imagine they can pass the ball
> better than CVille, although they have that
> monster HB.
>
> Now for D6 the 8 playoff teams are set. Fairfax
> ain't competing with Stone Bridge.
> Chantilly/Robinson will be for a home playoff
> game, then Oakton/Centreville will be big too.

The Chantilly game shouldn't count. Wfield D played awful. Robinson can't pass, but they have the best running back in the NR. Oakton vs Cville will be a good one. Agree that Walter throws too many picks, but he had an absolutely terrible game.

If Cville beats oakton, they will have only have the 2 seed if w springfield wins, right?

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Posted by: XvKLY ()
Date: October 27, 2012 03:41PM

I believe that is correct. But Lake Braddock will more than likely win. With Centreville and Chantilly tied for 3rd if they both win who would get 3rd. The power points have always confused me, Robinson is higher up than Oakton but Oakton has won an extra game. Would Chantilly or Centreville get more power points for their win?

Although the way Chantilly's D is playing, I think Robinson may take them; then I think Oakton is a better team than Centreville and will win.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Northern Region football ()
Date: October 27, 2012 07:11PM

Centreville would get more points for a win because Oakton has more wins than Robinson. Robinson has more power points because they have played a tougher schedule. If Centreville beats Oakton, Oakton is out, whether or not Fairfax beats Stone Bridge. This is because Stone Bridge is undefeated. Theoretically, I think Centreville could fall as far as 6th, but Centreville would have to lose, and everyone below them would have to win... But I might be doing the math wrong. Either way, I'd say the 2 biggest games this week are Centreville vs Oakton and Chantilly vs Robinson. My predictions are Centreville and Robinson to win. Very exciting week ahead.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Power points ()
Date: October 27, 2012 08:59PM

I think your math may be off. 1 and 2 are set. The rest will depend on a few key games. Even if Oakton loses they will be the 8 seed. If they win they could jump all the way to 3 or 4. I don't see how fairfax can make it in to the playoffs. They would have to beat stone bridge which is nearly impossible.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The man ()
Date: October 27, 2012 10:16PM

For those counting at home, Fairfax is the 5th largest school in the state

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: MeekMillyJooqer ()
Date: October 27, 2012 11:09PM

Quit hatin' on westfields Defense! It makes me mad how everyone gives centreville some slack because sophomores play in their D but SO DOES WESTFIELD! Have you not noticed how inexperienced this group of kids are and yet they are competing in arguably the toughest district in virginia? If westfield does fall watch out for them next year and the year after that believe it

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: LALakersFan ()
Date: October 28, 2012 12:02AM

Agree with previous post. Everyone talks about C'ville youth but westfield has 20 new starters on the field, including plenty of underclassman. You never hear about that. Give props to Westfield as well because they are doing it with a whole new startng lineup.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Agreed ()
Date: October 28, 2012 07:26AM

I agree that both westfield and centreville are doing amazing things with youth this year. When you have such large schools with so many kids it is easy to replenish your lineup year after year. You take your best and play them, you next best get a ton of experience of JV so they can play the following year when you need them. It's like an army when you see some of these teams. It is getting harder for some teams to compete because they have 30 freshman come out to westfield and chantilly's 80 or 90. Some teams have 100 players in the program, not 100 on varsity. A lot of that talent has moved farther out away from the heart of the county to bigger houses and more land, and the minority player that moves in has never seen a football in their life, unless your talking futbol.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cavparent ()
Date: October 28, 2012 09:36AM

So it looks like WTW will have back to back 2 win seasons. That is special. What will it take to get another staff in here? Another 2 win season? This staff plays not to get blown out. Watch a game and you'll see for yourself. Some of the worst called offensive and defensive plays in the region. But i am serious here - how many 2 win seasons will this guy get. I get that some people will say that 2 yrs isn't enough time, which is why in asking this question. Enough is enough. Teach these kids how to play football. Not how to play safe and guarantee a 1 or 2 TD loss agsinst opponents.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 28, 2012 10:27AM

Usually 3 years is the norm. The team is playing well this second half of the season, whether or not they're playing to keep the game close, which with their talent level is probably the best game plan.

You look at their schedule and 7 of their 10 games were against playoff teams this year. It was a hard schedule and realistically this is a 2-3 win team this year. The scores have also been closer when you compare them to year 1. I personally think enough progress has been shown to warrant a 3rd year which as long as they're not digressing is common.

The 3rd year gives the coach the time necessary to develop players and those that started on freshman and jv under him to come up and contribute. Now the performace will have to be better next year, I can see a 5-5 season possible for them.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Westdog 4 ()
Date: October 28, 2012 11:35AM

"For those counting at home, Fairfax is the 5th largest school in the state"

You gotta feel sorry for Fairfax even with their stud player dropping in their lap they only go 5-5.The same thing happened with Owen Schmitt. I think they had him but had terrible years. They cant have that bad of athletes.Their strenght coach was coach of the year or something, I guess it's the 1960's offense.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wtw other parent ()
Date: October 28, 2012 11:38AM

So it looks like WTW will have back to back 2 win seasons. That is special. What will it take to get another staff in here? Another 2 win season? This staff plays not to get blown out. Watch a game and you'll see for yourself. Some of the worst called offensive and defensive plays in the region. But i am serious here - how many 2 win seasons will this guy get. I get that some people will say that 2 yrs isn't enough time, which is why in asking this question. Enough is enough. Teach these kids how to play football. Not how to play safe and guarantee a 1 or 2 TD loss agsinst opponents.

And they run the same 1960's Offense. along with McLean. So does Robinson but at least they know how to use their studs.
Maybe WTW and Fairfax should combine programs then they can compete in the Liberty district

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: October 28, 2012 12:26PM

It's not always the offense that dictates success. It is almost always the athletes. Westfield has been running the same offense for years, and you wouldn't call it a modern offense. They may be the only school where the QB takes every snap from under center. In this day and age, its exactly the opposite of everyone else. Good athletes make good teams and then you have to coach 'em up.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wtw other parent ()
Date: October 28, 2012 01:01PM

It's not always the offense that dictates success. It is almost always the athletes. Westfield has been running the same offense for years, and you wouldn't call it a modern offense. They may be the only school where the QB takes every snap from under center. In this day and age, its exactly the opposite of everyone else. Good athletes make good teams and then you have to coach 'em up.

I have to disagree. Westfield runs a zone offense, same as LB and Langley.Formation has little to do with scheme. The wing t is based on blocking angles and quick linement. The zone scheme is based on double teaming the DT and working to the LB. Much differnt concept and much more difficult to teach. It takes coaches with the ability to learn and then teach not just do wtht they did then they played and yell.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SlickRicky ()
Date: October 28, 2012 04:20PM

Great points! It is amazing for westfield and centreville to not skip a beat after graduating so many seniors. Props to the sophomores skipping JV and playing varsity and keeping up in the concorde. Watch out for these players in the future they are the future of the northen region!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Northern Region football ()
Date: October 28, 2012 05:07PM

To show how youthful and special these teams are, here are the grade counts: Cville has 11 Sophmores and 15 juniors on varsity with 49 total players on varsity. That's only 23 seniors, and about half don't even play. On Wfield, there are 11 Sophmores and 31 juniors on Varsity out of 74 players. That's 32 seniors. Centreville's Freshmen team is undefeated and has won 23 straight games, while Westfield is 5-2 so far. JV doesn't really matter because of how many Sophmores and Juniors are on varsity, but Centreville is 1-5 and Westfield is 5-2. One of Centreville's games was postponed. But this shows just how young and how good both of these teams are. Next year, or the year after, no team at all will ever want to play them. The rivalry should be awesome for a couple of years.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: October 28, 2012 05:22PM

OMG get off Westfield and Centreville's dick. They're good programs, no one expects them not to be good.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: October 28, 2012 05:28PM

Totally agree with the assessments of Westfield here. That team has come a long way since the Dematha scrimmage in Aug. I left near the end when it was something like 52-6. In the last 2 months, the young team has jelled and coaches and players alike deserve a lot of credit.

The same is true of C'Ville. We saw them lose to O.Smith @ UVA last year 47-21 but were impressed with how tough the kids were. It's good to see them back despite graduating so many.





Northern Region football Wrote:
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> To show how youthful and special these teams are,
> here are the grade counts: Cville has 11 Sophmores
> and 15 juniors on varsity with 49 total players on
> varsity. That's only 23 seniors, and about half
> don't even play. On Wfield, there are 11 Sophmores
> and 31 juniors on Varsity out of 74 players.
> That's 32 seniors. Centreville's Freshmen team is
> undefeated and has won 23 straight games, while
> Westfield is 5-2 so far. JV doesn't really matter
> because of how many Sophmores and Juniors are on
> varsity, but Centreville is 1-5 and Westfield is
> 5-2. One of Centreville's games was postponed. But
> this shows just how young and how good both of
> these teams are. Next year, or the year after, no
> team at all will ever want to play them. The
> rivalry should be awesome for a couple of years.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WTW ()
Date: October 28, 2012 06:13PM

re WTW football... hey, let's all blame the coaches! and let's blame the scheme!

but, the reality is WTW rarely has enough talented athletes to compete weekly in Div 6. Occasionally, WTW has had very good teams in the past when a talented senior class rose up. That is rare. WTW's enrollment size and demographic make-up are not what it typically takes to win consistently in Div 6. This year is typical... they have a dozen seniors. Seven/eight play, and most of those play both ways. They have no game breakers on either side of the ball. They are your basic, solid, 1970s NOVA football team. That does not cut it these days. It's not the coaches fault.

All that said, WTW still brings out the fans and there is real football spirit on Friday nights. Kudos to the administrators and staff for making the best of an already good thing!

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Posted by: wtw other parent ()
Date: October 28, 2012 06:18PM

"All that said, WTW still brings out the fans and there is real football spirit on Friday nights. Kudos to the administrators and staff for making the best of an already good thing!"

I AGREE!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: October 28, 2012 06:58PM

Westfield would still lose 52-6 to Dematha if they played them next week. Stop using that as a metric for their improvement when the best teams they've beat are the Concorde teams in a down year.

Despite that, Westfield will be good for years to come, contending for region and state titles.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: northernregion101 ()
Date: October 28, 2012 07:59PM

As for Woodson, they only have two two way starters, Patrick Halloran #52 at G and DT and Peter Murray at LB and TE. None of this most seniors play both ways crap. The coaches consistantly mess it up for the boys when the coaches run the same plays over and over again and don't utilize their two biggest passing weapons (Jimmy McLaughlin and Murray), It is tough watching them play when they had Braddock bent over but a lack of coaching kills them. Their defense is as solid as any at this point in the season. Halloran, Murray, McLaughlin, and the Middle Line Backer Dean Rye should be four all district players from the aspiring program at W.T. Woodson. If that doesn't occur something is wrong with the district because every game a team has played against Woodson in the district has been close. Lee should have lost as well as West Springfield. West Potomac was the only team to truly beat the Cavs and that was because of excellent play from their running back Demonay. 3-7 or 2-8 truly doesn't reflect Woodsons play and if a TC Williams team makes the playoffs it will truly be sad.

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Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: October 28, 2012 08:45PM

NR Fanatic Wrote:
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> Westfield would still lose 52-6 to Dematha if they
> played them next week. Stop using that as a
> metric for their improvement when the best teams
> they've beat are the Concorde teams in a down
> year.
>
> Despite that, Westfield will be good for years to
> come, contending for region and state titles.

The DeMatha that showed up Sat wouldn't beat W'field 52-6. They got waxed @ home by Gonaza, 27-10. The Stags play GC tough every year and then feast on teams like O'Connell, Carroll and St. Johns. In the 2nd half Fri, W'field's D had 4-5 hats around the ball and that was a change from what I saw in Aug. I don't know if Concorde is down but it's hard to compare the youthful teams W'field and C'ville have now to those of last year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Me again ()
Date: October 29, 2012 02:43AM

Bang Bus 69 Wrote:
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> Parker did a good job keeping his team in order.
> While Lewis did a good job, he recruited, there is
> no denying that. Bottom line, Lewis is history
> and any new coach has the right to bring in a
> staff he is comfortable with. If you are a true
> eagle fan, support the team and quit reminiscing.
> The future is now!

Graduate and continued supporter of the boosters and school. I played under Lewis and Randolph before him and there is a way to coach and a way not to. Sorry but recruting to go to Edison??? I have to laugh because that is the easiest accusation to make about a coach when they have success. Sorry but Edison is not a dream school to be at even with the renovation, so let's throw your theory out the door of recruiting. I guess he did that back in '85 in your world too huh? Coach Lewis knew his players and knew what to do with them plus he had a staff that went to the school also and did everything for it and Parker disowned them in his own right for his guys. Yes it was his right to do that, but it was obviously the wrong choice as we now see for the 4th year. I wish it was different, but it isn't.

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Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: October 29, 2012 08:49AM

NR Fanatic Wrote:
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> Westfield would still lose 52-6 to Dematha if they
> played them next week. Stop using that as a
> metric for their improvement when the best teams
> they've beat are the Concorde teams in a down
> year.
>
> Despite that, Westfield will be good for years to
> come, contending for region and state titles.

The Concorde is down? What games are you watching....Herndon? I am a Westfield fan and they are good and legit, but unlike most leagues around here, there are no gimmee games in the Concorde District.

As for DeMatha, using that game as a measuring stick is ridiculous. Last year, Westfield beat DeMatha with a senior heavy team that had been playing for two years together on the field. DeMatha, on the otherhand was very young, and didnt have their best year last year. This year, Westfield has 20 new guys on the field and its the 3rd week of practice and they are playing against a more experienced DeMatha team. That said, 9 out of 10 times, DeMatha is going to beat most public schools........they RECRUIT and always have superior size and athletes.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: October 29, 2012 10:08AM

On Dematha exactly my point Bulldawg, Dematha should/probably would win as they do recruit and it is stupid for people to be using it as a metric. We're all entitled to opinions and although Dematha is having a down year in the private schools, I still think they would dismantle Westfield head to head. That is no knock on Westfield, they're beating the teams they have to and no where is Dematha/other private schools in that equation.

Now the Concorde is a real balanced district and it is competitive each week. When I said it was down, I meant it does not boast as strong a team as in years past. The region in general isn't too strong this year, this year's Westfield although dominant, does not hold a candle to last year's Westfield and Centreville in my opinion. That was a real special year for those programs. I would not put this Westfield near some of its past great teams too (such as '03, '07, '08). Now with that being said, with them being young, maybe in a year or two they will have that special team.

For this year, Oakton, Chantilly, Centreville, Robinson, and Westfield are all good, but they've all had stronger teams in the past 3-4 years. They're still on another level from the rest of the region but I do not think most of these teams are state title contenders like they've been at other times.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Just Curious ()
Date: October 29, 2012 12:03PM

Doe anyone know how many players were ejected in the Wakefield/Edison bench clearing incident and who was ejected from each team? If any of them were seniors, they probably have played their last high school game!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EagleFan ()
Date: October 29, 2012 01:37PM

For us I heard deck and graham both senoirs

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Pilchard ()
Date: October 29, 2012 03:13PM

What are the updated Power Point Ratings for D-5 Northern Region?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Nighthawk ()
Date: October 29, 2012 05:12PM

Division 5
Stone Bridge 294 (vs. Fairfax 5-4)
Yorktown 272 (vs. W-L 5-4)
Madison 267 (vs. Marshall 0-9)
Hayfield 234 (vs. Edison 5-4)
Langley 227 (vs. McLean 4-5)
Edison 216 (vs. Hayfield 6-3)
South County 214 (vs. W.T. Woodson 2-7)
Jefferson 210 (vs. South Lakes 3-6)
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McLean 208 (vs. Langley 5-4)
Lee 191
Mount Vernon 189
Falls Church 169
Stuart 160
Wakefield 149
Marshall 147

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: pdc ()
Date: October 29, 2012 09:27PM

thoughts on this fridays battle between whats proven to be the 2 best teams in the patriot, braddock and west springfield??

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Eagle fan ()
Date: October 29, 2012 09:45PM

Vaughn did recruit...but he was also a good coach. Under Parker the eagles have made some steady improvement...from 3 wins in his first year, to 4 wins last year, and now 5 wins with a chance for 6 wins if they win against Hayfield.

Why do you think Vaughn left? He knew it was going to take some time to rebuild...go Eagles!!

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Posted by: 9D73C ()
Date: October 29, 2012 10:01PM

pdc Wrote:
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> thoughts on this fridays battle between whats
> proven to be the 2 best teams in the patriot,
> braddock and west springfield??


Lake Braddock by atleast 14. I know West Springfield spanked West Potomac, but having seen both play twice, I still think West Potomac is the better team. It was a very suprising score.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: give me one player ()
Date: October 30, 2012 10:54AM

Please provide the players Lewis recruited and where they should have been going. I would really like to hear this one. And the talent pool hasn't left Edison at all, they players just aren't coming out to tryout because of this continuing problem at Edison.....what was it, 35 or so this year for a varsity program?!?! No doubt he has increased his wins, but this is the national district and the out of district play was weak this year (except for Chantilly) and sorry but they are not beating Hayfield, yet again, so let's make his wins per year be 3, 4, 5, and 5. Not much in the way of improving as you can mark down that you beat Stuart and then beat Falls Church to add to your win total. 4 years in a program is enough to make your guys understand your system and implement your off-season schedules. When does it end?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Nighthawk ()
Date: October 30, 2012 12:20PM

I'm looking forward to Friday's matchup between Chantilly and Robinson and the right to host at least on home playoff game. A Robinson win and they could possibly play Chantilly at home again next week.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KingConcorde ()
Date: October 30, 2012 12:28PM

Nighthawk Wrote:
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> I'm looking forward to Friday's matchup between
> Chantilly and Robinson and the right to host at
> least on home playoff game. A Robinson win and
> they could possibly play Chantilly at home again
> next week.


This should be a good one. Robinson is a tough game and depending on what Chantilly team shows up, this should be very interesting.

Any thoughts out there on the All District team? I think it is pretty clear that Wilson and Richardson would be the choices at RB.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 30, 2012 02:13PM

I think Mullins has to get QB, Huelskamp at TE.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Factsaretrue6996 ()
Date: October 30, 2012 02:59PM

A few of the players Lewis recruited are as follows:

1) Angus Harper - Lee, Landscaping?
2) Christian Washington, Mount Vernon
3) Paul Oliveira, Hayfield

Need I say more?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: All district ()
Date: October 30, 2012 06:59PM

Does Downer from Oakton get any consideration? He has thrown for almost a 1000 yds and has rushed for 900 accounting for the huge majority of Oakton td's. I know Oakton has been terrible in district play, but when I saw him play against Westfield that kid was the best player on the field.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Fact ()
Date: October 30, 2012 08:22PM

Just for fact....Paul Olivero was not recruited to Edison. He was expelled from Hayfield for assault on a teacher.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 30, 2012 09:12PM

All district Wrote:
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> Does Downer from Oakton get any consideration? He
> has thrown for almost a 1000 yds and has rushed
> for 900 accounting for the huge majority of Oakton
> td's. I know Oakton has been terrible in district
> play, but when I saw him play against Westfield
> that kid was the best player on the field.

I agree.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: October 30, 2012 09:15PM

I think Downer is a very close 2nd. Mullins is the better passer and leading your team to 9-0 while having a good season gives him the edge. And he can run too, just doesn't have to. Hard to believe neither of them started as juniors but tells you the talent level in the Concorde year in and year out.

Huleskamp definately is the best TE
Richardson and Wilson at RB

Others that have to be on all district team would include Turner from C'Ville, Burns from Westfield. I dont know all of the offensive lineman but a few from Westfield have to be on there, they have been fantastic.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The man ()
Date: October 30, 2012 10:00PM

Huelskamp should get all region first team at LB AND TE

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 30, 2012 11:02PM

Huelskamp is not an all region LB. Teams pick on him as he bites on every play action. He does make a lot of plays, but gives up too many to be considered here.

As for all region TE, I don't know much about the position outside the Concorde, but I do not think it would be a stretch for him to be all region.

Other offensive all region players would be Scott at Fairfax, Henderson probably gets qb for his hype, but I think it could go to Mullins or Burns*.

I have seen Burns play 3 times and have never been impressed with him. He has the size and the arm but I've never viewed him as a playmaker or someone to be real scared of. It shocked me that he is the highest rated qb ever to come up out of the Northern Region as the number 3 ranked qb in the country on ESPN and rated higher than any qb in the country from last year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: October 31, 2012 06:29AM

Ryan at Burns at Stone Bridge looks great on the sidelines. He looks great warming up and looks great at a camp, in shorts and a helmet throwing lasers. He doesnt look so great in a game. Moves awkwardly, no touch on the ball. But when you have that size, the colleges think they can coach him up, so we'll see.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Go Eagles ()
Date: October 31, 2012 07:43AM

This is Parker's third year at Edison. His first year was the fall of 2010. And yes the talent level is not as high as it was under Vaughn...there is not a single player on the current roster (or in the school) with the talent of Harper or Robertson.

All that being said I'm rooting for the Eagles this week against Hayfield...Go Eagles!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: I hope too ()
Date: October 31, 2012 08:54AM

Go Eagles Wrote:
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> This is Parker's third year at Edison. His first
> year was the fall of 2010. And yes the talent
> level is not as high as it was under
> Vaughn...there is not a single player on the
> current roster (or in the school) with the talent
> of Harper or Robertson.
>
> All that being said I'm rooting for the Eagles
> this week against Hayfield...Go Eagles!


They do have some good athletes in the school (maybe not football savy like Angus or Stephan) but other male, or male dominated, sports in that school do quite well when compared to the region such as wrestling, track, basketball and lacrosse. The athletes are there, just not on the football team for some reason. With that said I do hope they beat Hayfield too as I am glad they brought back the old neighborhood rivalry since most of those kids know each other from youth leagues and such. Also just wondering how is the Hayfield coach doing with his illness?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wildcats ()
Date: October 31, 2012 09:15AM

Oakton @ Centreville will be played as scheduled Friday night.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: October 31, 2012 11:22AM

Here are the spreads for the final week of the regular season. A lot of great games with playoff implications. The big two games should be Chantilly @ Robinson and Oakton @ Centreville; both figure to be close battles.

Chantilly (-6.0) @ Robinson *Co-Game of the Week
Edison @ Hayfield (-9.5)
Fairfax @ Stone Bridge (-28.0)
Falls Church (-7.0) @ Stuart
Jefferson @ South Lakes (-7.0) *this will be a good game
Lee (-7.0) @ Annandale
Madison (-49.0) @ Marshall *rivalry game but on two different levels this year
Mclean @ Langley (-14.0) *fun rivalry game
Mount Vernon (-20.0) @ Wakefield
Oakton (-3.0) @ Centreville *Co-Game of the Week
TC Williams @ West Potomac (-13.5)
Woodson @ South County (-14.0)
West Springfield @ Lake Braddock (-17.0)
Westfield (-38.0) @ Herndon
Yorktown (-28.0) @ W&L

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Nighthawk ()
Date: October 31, 2012 01:36PM

Just wanted to let everyone know that FCPS and Fairfax Sports Network is going to be airing "Game of the Weeks," every Monday night on Channel 21 starting with this Friday's Robinson vs. Chantilly game.

http://commweb.fcps.edu/newsreleases/newsrelease.cfm?newsid=2098



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2012 01:38PM by Nighthawk.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: All Met Sports ()
Date: November 01, 2012 02:01PM

Virginia AAA Northern Region Division 6

In: Westfield (9-0), Lake Braddock (7-2), Centreville (6-3), Chantilly (6-3)

In with a win: Robinson (5-4), West Potomac (6-3), West Springfield (6-3), Oakton (6-3)

Still alive: Fairfax (5-4)

Skinny: Westfield has wrapped up the region’s top seed for the second year in a row. The race for the second seed is tight between Lake Braddock, Centreville and Chantilly, which enter the weekend separated by only three power points. Fairfax, which is currently in ninth, has a shot to squeak into the field if it can knock off undefeated Stone Bridge and if Oakton loses to Centreville. The Rebels are 0-3 against the Bulldogs and have been outscored 123-28 in those games.


Virginia AAA Northern Region Division 5

In: Stone Bridge (9-0), Yorktown (9-0), Madison (7-2), Hayfield (6-3)

In with a win: Langley (5-4), Edison (5-4)

Still alive: South County (4-5), Jefferson (5-4), McLean (4-5)

Skinny: Stone Bridge — which fell to South County in the region semifinals last season, ending a streak of four straight region titles — has clinched the top seed. Yorktown and Madison can be seeded no lower than third. South County, which plays W.T. Woodson (2-7); Jefferson, which plays South Lakes (3-6); and McLean, which plays Langley, will likely vie for the final two slots.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KingConcorde ()
Date: November 01, 2012 02:30PM

Thanks, good summary.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: tjfootball ()
Date: November 02, 2012 09:07PM

Jefferson up 14-0 at end of third quarter, probably making the playoffs

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Playoff bound ()
Date: November 02, 2012 09:22PM

Good for TJ, It would have been embarrassing to have a team with a losing record going into the playoffs. TJ earned it and deserved it. I still don't understand that if they lost and McLean lost that McLean would have been in. With the exception of Stone Bridge and Yorktown, D-5 has been quite the joke this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ffxreb ()
Date: November 02, 2012 10:59PM

TJ 36 vs South Lakes 0; Final

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Seriously? ()
Date: November 02, 2012 11:28PM

Next time, why not just link to the WaPo article you cut-and-pasted from?


All Met Sports Wrote:
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> Virginia AAA Northern Region Division 6
>
> In: Westfield (9-0), Lake Braddock (7-2),
> Centreville (6-3), Chantilly (6-3)
>
> In with a win: Robinson (5-4), West Potomac (6-3),
> West Springfield (6-3), Oakton (6-3)
>
> Still alive: Fairfax (5-4)
>
> Skinny: Westfield has wrapped up the region’s
> top seed for the second year in a row. The race
> for the second seed is tight between Lake
> Braddock, Centreville and Chantilly, which enter
> the weekend separated by only three power points.
> Fairfax, which is currently in ninth, has a shot
> to squeak into the field if it can knock off
> undefeated Stone Bridge and if Oakton loses to
> Centreville. The Rebels are 0-3 against the
> Bulldogs and have been outscored 123-28 in those
> games.
>
>
> Virginia AAA Northern Region Division 5
>
> In: Stone Bridge (9-0), Yorktown (9-0), Madison
> (7-2), Hayfield (6-3)
>
> In with a win: Langley (5-4), Edison (5-4)
>
> Still alive: South County (4-5), Jefferson (5-4),
> McLean (4-5)
>
> Skinny: Stone Bridge — which fell to South
> County in the region semifinals last season,
> ending a streak of four straight region titles —
> has clinched the top seed. Yorktown and Madison
> can be seeded no lower than third. South County,
> which plays W.T. Woodson (2-7); Jefferson, which
> plays South Lakes (3-6); and McLean, which plays
> Langley, will likely vie for the final two slots.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: TrueCookie ()
Date: November 02, 2012 11:59PM

The westfield vs herndon games score is very decieving. Westfield pulled out all there starters before halftime and put in there 2nd 3rd 4th team throughout the rest of the game. Westfields first team did not give up a single TD in the first half. The kickoff team failed to cover a kick which ended up to be a TD. Who does westfield have in the first round??

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: spreads ()
Date: November 03, 2012 12:01AM

wow, not that anyone cares but that jefferson/south lakes spread was way off

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: bulldawg ()
Date: November 03, 2012 12:24AM

Looks like West Springfield and Oakton are tied in power points for the 7th and 8th spots in Div 6. Not sure what the tiebreaker is. So Westfield will play either Oakton or W. Springfield.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SL Parent ()
Date: November 03, 2012 12:42AM

What a terrible game SouthLakes played! 3 dropped TDs and 2 TDs called back... Not to mention 5 turnovers.

TJ is a good team!Congrats

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: playoffs ()
Date: November 03, 2012 01:15AM

Anybody have any idea how the power points work out now for the D5 playoffs? How does the outcome of the Mclean Langley game tomorrow at 4 affect the playoff picture?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Mr. Power Points ()
Date: November 03, 2012 02:43AM

If Langley beats McLean

Stone Bridge vs Edison

Hayfield vs Langley

Yorktown vs Jefferson

Madison vs South County

If McLean beats Langley

Stone Bridge vs Jefferson

Hayfield vs Langley

Yorktown vs South County

Madison vs McLean

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: So anyway ... ()
Date: November 03, 2012 08:44AM


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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 03, 2012 09:37AM

So anyway ... Wrote:
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> If you just want to read the article that "Mr.
> Power Points" is trying to steal credit from, here
> you go:

Oh for God's sake, the poster posted under the name of the website #Allmetsports. He's not trying to steal credit for anything. I for one would much rather read it on here pasted then have to go off to another link. Thanks All Met Sports.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 03, 2012 09:47AM

Chantilly 41 @ Robinson 21; statement game for the Chargers. They're so up and down so you never know with them, but when they play the way they did against Westfield, Oakton, and Robinson watch out playoff teams.

Edison 45 @ Hayfield 47; must have been a real fun rivalry game.

Fairfax 27 @ Stone Bridge 47

Falls Church 49 @ Stuart 20

Jefferson 36 @ South Lakes 0; embarassing performance by the Seahawks to conclude their season. Conversly awesome job by the TJ kids. The D5 playoffs are going to suck but I believe they're in and that's a tremendous accomplishment for that program.

Madison 34 @ Marshall 14

Mount Vernon 56 @ Wakefield 0

Oakton 28 @ Centreville 49; was 28-27 Oakton before Centreville pulled away, had a lot of similarities on offense to the Cville/Tilly game where their offense just went up and down the field and their D figured it out.

TC Williams 13 @ West Potomac 10; West Po has rolled over from an awesome start.

Woodson 13 @ South County 47; SC the most intriguing team for D5 to watch in the playoffs.

West Springfield 9 @ Lake Braddock 42; shown they can handle the Patriot as expected, but can they take down the Concorde big dogs?

Westfield 41 @ Herndon 27; Westfield going to the bench early messed up my spread.

Yorktown 35 @ W&L 7

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 03, 2012 10:03AM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> All district Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Does Downer from Oakton get any consideration?
> He
> > has thrown for almost a 1000 yds and has rushed
> > for 900 accounting for the huge majority of
> Oakton
> > td's. I know Oakton has been terrible in
> district
> > play, but when I saw him play against Westfield
> > that kid was the best player on the field.
>
> I agree.

Well, I retract my agreement.

Went to the Centreville v. Oakton game last night. Downer just did not look that good - could not get the ball anywhere near his receivers (2-9 + an interception) and lost another fumble. Showed once again he's hard to tackle...

Centreville offense is looking better every game - they have a lot speed. Turner was unstoppable. Their defense was a disaster early - but they threw a shutout in the second half much to my surprise.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: November 03, 2012 10:54AM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> newgatedenizen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All district Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Does Downer from Oakton get any
> consideration?
> > He
> > > has thrown for almost a 1000 yds and has
> rushed
> > > for 900 accounting for the huge majority of
> > Oakton
> > > td's. I know Oakton has been terrible in
> > district
> > > play, but when I saw him play against
> Westfield
> > > that kid was the best player on the field.
> >
> > I agree.
>
> Well, I retract my agreement.
>
> Went to the Centreville v. Oakton game last night.
> Downer just did not look that good - could not
> get the ball anywhere near his receivers (2-9 + an
> interception) and lost another fumble. Showed
> once again he's hard to tackle...
>
> Centreville offense is looking better every game -
> they have a lot speed. Turner was unstoppable.
> Their defense was a disaster early - but they
> threw a shutout in the second half much to my
> surprise.


Westfield QB should be all district. Leads the district in every major category and undefeated season. Downer is a talent, no doubt, but his running is way ahead of his passing. He is not easy to stop when he has the ball in his hands. And, you cant go 0-4 against the teams not named Herndon.

The playoffs should prove interestring for the Concorde teams, I think this is a year where anything can happen. And AJ Turner at Cville is going to be an absolute terror the next couple of years.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Nighthawk ()
Date: November 03, 2012 12:25PM

After losing by 20, Robinson gets the same Chantilly Chargers at Chantilly in the first round of the playoffs.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 03, 2012 08:13PM

I have not seen the final power points, but if I'm doing it right here are the matchups.

D6
(8) West Springfield @ (1) Westfield *easy Westfield win
(7) Oakton @ (2) Lake Braddock *this will be a fun game
(6) West Po @ (3) Centreville *West Po won in the regular season, but has been playing awful the second half of the season. While Centreville has been playing better week to week. I like Centreville pretty comfortably in this game.
(5) Robinson @ (4) Chantilly *Robinson will be a tough rematch for Chantilly. They lost to Westfield by 3, won squeekers against Oakton and Centreville, and beat Herndon 52-0. Take away the fumbles from last night and this will be a great competitive game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Matchups ()
Date: November 03, 2012 08:32PM

I would say that Oakton lucked out in getting Lake Braddock. I think that will be closer than expected because the other Concorde district teams have Oakton's # this year. Good D-6 matchups all around with the exception of Westfield's game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: talent ()
Date: November 03, 2012 09:13PM

Is there a talent drop off in Springfield?
Lee went from a few years of making div. 5 playoffs to being utterly terrible.
West Springfield went from playing zero two way players and winning district championships to playing their entire team both ways and scratching their way to a first round massacre at the hands of westfield.

Are there no football players left or do the coaches only trust a certain number of kids?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Talent ()
Date: November 03, 2012 09:18PM

Theres not much talent in Springfield. Theres no talent in Reston, Herndon or Falls Chuch for that matter! All of the talent rests in Chantilly and Vienna where the Youth Leagues dominate.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really...talent ()
Date: November 03, 2012 09:45PM

The talent is in chantilly not Vienna. Oakton sucks. Robinson and Braddock have a ton of talent, I don't know what their youth league is, but they have a huge advantage because they are both secondary schools. Nice when you can get those young kids involved early. Having them lift and learn the systems in 8th grade makes a huge difference. CYA is dominant though. If Chantilly HS would get rid of Lali they would be much much better. The talent that used to go to Oakton now goes to private school, so they don't have to go to their newly districted South Lakes, or they moved into Loudon County for bigger houses and new schools, which is why you see those areas getting better. The richer families that can afford o move to bigger houses and more land have improved that area and their football tremendously (not all from rich Oakton, just using that as an example). Ths should be a great playoff bracket this year. 5 Concorde teams!! Anything can happen but I am putting my money on Westfield(best coaching)or Centreville(best athletes).

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: footballr ()
Date: November 03, 2012 10:01PM

Langley beats McLean, these should be the final D5 matchups:

Stone Bridge vs Edison

Hayfield vs Langley

Yorktown vs Jefferson

Madison vs South County

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: November 03, 2012 10:01PM

I think you have it backwards, Westfield (best athletes), Centreville (best coaching).

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: November 04, 2012 12:06AM

I wouldn't sell the Westfield staff short. Graduated 40 seniors off a NR runner-up last year and came back with an undefeated regular season.

NR Fanatic Wrote:
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> I think you have it backwards, Westfield (best
> athletes), Centreville (best coaching).

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really...talent ()
Date: November 04, 2012 12:08AM

No I had it right the first time. Westfield has the bet staff in the area. Haddock is not a great coach, he is a system guy, his system works with the athletes he has now. He was a loser for years, lost at Chantilly and Fairfax. I believe he was 0-10 at Chantilly....and he was crushed year after year at Fairfax. The only good coach on that staff is Matthie (sp). They have more athletes at centreville, westfield just has more players. The westfield staff is loaded with great coaches, Simmons, Shields, Everret, Bendorf, the list goes on and on.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Neff is the man ()
Date: November 04, 2012 06:31AM

Neff is the dc at cville and does a good job. Very hard worker and really smart

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The man ()
Date: November 04, 2012 06:48AM

Just to be clear, Haddock was never head coach at Chantilly. He won some at Fairfax, then CV.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 04, 2012 10:44AM

Haddock turned Fairfax around from a constant loser to a respectable team. He then made Centreville football relevant again. Haddock is a great coach and the best in the region, system or no system.

As for Westfield they've won forever, first with Verbanic and now with Simmons. Don't get me wrong that success does not from lack of coaching, I know their staff does a fantastic job. I just think Haddock is better and Westfield has a much stronger team this year. All that matters though is 1 region championship for Haddock and staff, 0 for Simmons and staff. Centreville and Westfield are both set up to be the region's elite the next two seasons.

Anyway here is the spread for this week's playoff games.

No. 8 West Springfield at No. 1 Westfield (-20.5)
No. 7 Oakton at No. 2 Lake Braddock (-8.0)
No. 6 West Potomac at No. 3 Centreville (-14.0)
No. 5 Robinson at No. 4 Chantilly (-6.5)

No. 8 Edison at No. 1 Stone Bridge (-40.0)
No. 7 Jefferson at No. 2 Yorktown (-35.0)
No. 6 South County (-14.0) at No. 3 Madison
No. 5 Langley (-3.0) at No. 4 Hayfield

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: November 04, 2012 11:33AM

Whats the skinny on West Springfield? Dont know much about them....

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Purple Knight ()
Date: November 04, 2012 11:41AM

Good running back and one big play receiver. Defense is average, offensive line and qb are average at best.

Chantilly had no trouble with them whatsoever when they were 4-0. Having saw that game, I have to figure Westfield will smoke them. They kind of limped to the finish line.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Steve sucks ()
Date: November 04, 2012 03:10PM

Steve your opinions are always a joke. You suck.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: November 04, 2012 03:53PM

Steve is the best poster on Fairfax Underground! What are you talking about? I love the weekly spreads and he is very insightful.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 04, 2012 05:02PM

Steve sucks Wrote:
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> Steve your opinions are always a joke. You suck.

Thank you for your insightful, well thought out and masterfully argued comment. We all eagerly await further demonstration of your intellectual prowess and football knowledge.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: reggie ()
Date: November 04, 2012 08:08PM

For the record Haddock "turned" fairfax around after they dropped from the Concorde where the teams were all Div 6 and badass to the Liberty where well, it's stonebridge (who they never hung with) and noboby else. So don't go all rewriting his heroics.

I will give him the nod in that since he left Fairfax has sunken into being one of the worst Div. 6 teams in the state. They have the best RB on the east coast and you almost forget they do.

The program is running downhill faster then their offense tries to.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: reggie2 ()
Date: November 04, 2012 08:10PM

Just making it clear to all the posters who riddled this website in the offseason with Fairfax love.

THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really...talent ()
Date: November 04, 2012 09:24PM

Finally somebody who really understands football in ths area. Thank you Reggie.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: fairfaxfam ()
Date: November 04, 2012 10:22PM

"I will give him the nod in that since he left Fairfax has sunken into being one of the worst Div. 6 teams in the state. They have the best RB on the east coast and you almost forget they do.

The program is running downhill faster then their offense tries to."

Simmonds needs to go, half of the team is talking about either transfering or just not playing. He is the worst play caller in the state. sweep right , sweep left, trap and rollout pass on 3rd and long and you can set your watch by it.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Rebel ()
Date: November 04, 2012 10:24PM

Simmonds sucks and the AD knows it and will do nothing. Wait till next year when they field 20 players and Nick Scott.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FAX pissed ()
Date: November 04, 2012 10:26PM

I agree Simmonds has to go get a real coach like Dave Murray from LB he graduated with me from Fairfax.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: faxfan ()
Date: November 04, 2012 10:27PM

Dave Murray is the man. He graduated from Fairfax and they have Simmonds? Can't belive it!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Northen region Jim ()
Date: November 04, 2012 10:28PM

Simmonds is a Pannoni deciple what do you expect

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: novaball ()
Date: November 04, 2012 10:54PM

I heard Nick Scott is transferring to LB so Murray should stay put and avoid this trap of a school.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really...talent ()
Date: November 05, 2012 05:55AM

Dave if your going to post about yourself, don't make both posts back to back. Really...a minute apart..your not a close to being a head coach and nobody knows who you are.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: mmmm ()
Date: November 05, 2012 11:20AM

talent Wrote:
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> Is there a talent drop off in Springfield?
> Lee went from a few years of making div. 5
> playoffs to being utterly terrible.
> West Springfield went from playing zero two way
> players and winning district championships to
> playing their entire team both ways and scratching
> their way to a first round massacre at the hands
> of westfield.
>
> Are there no football players left or do the
> coaches only trust a certain number of kids?


Lee is always either hit or miss. Last season they were good, this season they were poor. Next season? Who knows.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: curious george ()
Date: November 05, 2012 12:31PM

have the all-district teams been posted yet?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: LBforeva ()
Date: November 05, 2012 12:34PM

I follow Lake Braddock and I have never heard of this guy.
Is he a freshmen coach?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Brian ()
Date: November 05, 2012 12:35PM

David Symmes is fucking legit

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cvillebacker ()
Date: November 05, 2012 01:09PM

XvKLY Wrote:
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> I believe that is correct. But Lake Braddock will
> more than likely win. With Centreville and
> Chantilly tied for 3rd if they both win who would
> get 3rd. The power points have always confused
> me, Robinson is higher up than Oakton but Oakton
> has won an extra game. Would Chantilly or
> Centreville get more power points for their win?
>
>
> Although the way Chantilly's D is playing, I think
> Robinson may take them; then I think Oakton is a
> better team than Centreville and will win.


Cville dominated Oakton and is playing some of their best football at the right time. Westfield is the favorite, but not by much. Their Defense is suspect and can be scored on. Cville turned the ball over 4 times against them (2 interceptions and 2 fumbles) BUT moved the ball up and down the field. Chantilly or Robinson against Westfield will be a great game. Neither team is intimidated by them and know they can beat them.

Cville will have to beat LB to get to the final. They already did it and will have alot of confidence going into the game. Go to love Playoff football.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Correction ()
Date: November 05, 2012 03:41PM

Correction - Centreville will have to beat West Potomac to get to Lake Braddock, something that they weren't able to do earlier in the season. Pierson-El will be back this week and he's pissed that he missed a game and a half already.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: November 05, 2012 04:51PM

Correction Wrote:
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> Correction - Centreville will have to beat West
> Potomac to get to Lake Braddock, something that
> they weren't able to do earlier in the season.
> Pierson-El will be back this week and he's pissed
> that he missed a game and a half already.


I cant imagine Centreville won't beat these guys. I saw them play Westfield and they were terrible; wasn't even close. Not sure how Centreville lost to them in the first place.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: RGIV ()
Date: November 05, 2012 04:52PM

curious george Wrote:
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> have the all-district teams been posted yet?

I have only heard rumors, nothing official....

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: vzrider ()
Date: November 05, 2012 06:36PM

Haddock did not bring us back, the players did. He is not respected as a coach here. Hell, we cant stand him.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Jess1 ()
Date: November 05, 2012 06:40PM

Actually, Fairfax is an interesting case "study" - is it coaching, players, or some combination? Recall they were good in the 90s under Verbanic (3 undefeated seasons, IIRC), then dropped like a rock... and the current coach seems to be of dubious skill.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: CvilleFootball ()
Date: November 05, 2012 07:17PM

vzrider Wrote:
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> Haddock did not bring us back, the players did. He
> is not respected as a coach here. Hell, we cant
> stand him.


Ok, no one respects him? Yeah right. He's one of the most respected coaches in Virginia. Please, if you're gonna argue something, actually have a good point to argue.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Northern Region football ()
Date: November 05, 2012 07:24PM

NRFan Wrote:
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> Correction Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Correction - Centreville will have to beat West
> > Potomac to get to Lake Braddock, something that
> > they weren't able to do earlier in the season.
> > Pierson-El will be back this week and he's
> pissed
> > that he missed a game and a half already.
>
>
> I cant imagine Centreville won't beat these guys.
> I saw them play Westfield and they were terrible;
> wasn't even close. Not sure how Centreville lost
> to them in the first place.


Pierson-El had an unbelievable game. WaPost says he had 239 yds on only 13 carries and 2 Tds. It was the game where everyone thought he was the best in the NR, until Joe Wilson showed he was better. Cville played horrible and WestPo played terrific. Cville won't let it happen again. You ever heard of the Robinson Rollercoaster? This year it's the WestPo Rollercoaster. Went up a large hill, then came back to earth faster than they went up.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: faxfan ()
Date: November 05, 2012 08:25PM

I follow Lake Braddock and I have never heard of this guy.
Is he a freshmen coach?

Just go to the football website ...........

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Brian ()
Date: November 05, 2012 09:27PM

Yes all districts have been posted

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: RGIV ()
Date: November 05, 2012 09:52PM

Where are all districts posted?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: CvillebackerMvnxk ()
Date: November 05, 2012 10:19PM

Brian Wrote:
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> Yes all districts have been posted


No All District teams are out yet

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: footballr ()
Date: November 05, 2012 11:44PM

I believe all district players have been informed of their selection but no official list has been publicly released

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: All District ()
Date: November 06, 2012 10:56AM

Pierson-El got Patriot Offensive Player of the Year

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde QB's ()
Date: November 06, 2012 11:37AM

Word on the street is that Mullins, Downer, and Romine all received 1st Team All-District at the quarterback position. Not sure why they chose to have 3 QB's on first team, but congrats to all of them on their fantastic seasons.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeQB2 ()
Date: November 06, 2012 12:03PM

Concorde QB's Wrote:
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> Word on the street is that Mullins, Downer, and
> Romine all received 1st Team All-District at the
> quarterback position. Not sure why they chose to
> have 3 QB's on first team, but congrats to all of
> them on their fantastic seasons.


Really, thats odd. Wil they give Richardson, Wandey, Wilson, Turner and SImms all the nod at RB. You would hope they would be able pick one clear cut selection.

Downer is a talent but you cannot lose all 4 critical conference games and get the nod. And you have to be able to throw the ball.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 06, 2012 12:30PM

Concorde QB's Wrote:
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> Word on the street is that Mullins, Downer, and
> Romine all received 1st Team All-District at the
> quarterback position. Not sure why they chose to
> have 3 QB's on first team, but congrats to all of
> them on their fantastic seasons.


That's a joke. I do not know how Romine got selected, probably because he was a 3 year varsity starter (2 at qb); but I thought it was very clear cut that Mullins should have been the outright winner. I would have put Downer ahead of Romine too, but he was too inconsistent to garner the award.

Then if they did select all those running backs (haven't seen the official one) that's a joke too. I understand Richardson, Wilson, and Turner but really Simms and Wandey too, neither was anything special. In a 6 team district you can't just select one player from each team. Ashame the coaches can't get a simple selction right. I've been saying for years let the media make the selections.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeQB2 ()
Date: November 06, 2012 01:51PM

steve k2 Wrote:
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> Concorde QB's Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Word on the street is that Mullins, Downer, and
> > Romine all received 1st Team All-District at
> the
> > quarterback position. Not sure why they chose
> to
> > have 3 QB's on first team, but congrats to all
> of
> > them on their fantastic seasons.
>
>
> That's a joke. I do not know how Romine got
> selected, probably because he was a 3 year varsity
> starter (2 at qb); but I thought it was very clear
> cut that Mullins should have been the outright
> winner. I would have put Downer ahead of Romine
> too, but he was too inconsistent to garner the
> award.
>
> Then if they did select all those running backs
> (haven't seen the official one) that's a joke too.
> I understand Richardson, Wilson, and Turner but
> really Simms and Wandey too, neither was anything
> special. In a 6 team district you can't just
> select one player from each team. Ashame the
> coaches can't get a simple selction right. I've
> been saying for years let the media make the
> selections.


I was joking about the RB's to make a point, alot of good ones but you have to select the 2 best. Don't know who got it, but my votes would be for Wilson and Richardson. No slight to the others, but Wilson is clear cut and Richardson was huge for Westfield this year.

Mullins had most yards, most TD's, highest rating in Concorde. He was consistent all year...I would say he gets the nod.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Fan1 ()
Date: November 06, 2012 03:10PM

virginiapreps.com has all the links to all-district teams.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Jack ()
Date: November 06, 2012 04:29PM

What are y'all's predictions for this weekend

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: All district ()
Date: November 06, 2012 04:35PM

Here is the link to all of the districts 1st and 2nd team players.

http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=914&fid=2534&style=1

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: DigDugMAN ()
Date: November 06, 2012 08:10PM

hard to believe only 1 sophomore got All District from Westfield. They had a handful of 10th graders who really stepped up and helped Westfield. I guess we will see these young cats down the road in the future.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: November 06, 2012 09:50PM

Jack:

D6
Westfield 42, W. Springfield 14
Young D will continue to impress.

LB 35 Oakton 21
LB rolling but was its 2nd half sched weak?
Oakton: You have 72 hours to find your early season form.

Chantilly 28, Robinson 21
Tough to beat a team twice in 2 weeks.
Tilly won't rush for 400 yards again but still wins.
Which Robinson team will show?

WestPo 28, C'Ville 21 (upset pick)
Can star's return break team's spiral?
Young C'Ville is on way back from making 2011 state final

D5
SB 42, Edison 21
#1 seed opens big lead and coasts.
Edison: Watch SoCo-SB playoff from 2011.

Yorkown 35, TJ 17
Brainiacs hang tough early.
Patriots break big plays in 2nd half.

SoCo 35, Madison 14
Madison's good season ends to SoCo's hot O.

Hayfield 21, Langley 17
Saxon's ball control keeps game close but Hawks' D makes big plays.


Jack Wrote:
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> What are y'all's predictions for this weekend

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really...talent ()
Date: November 06, 2012 09:59PM

>
> D6
> Westfield 42, W. Springfield 0

>
> LB 28 Oakton 34

>
> Chantilly 17 Robinson 21

>
> WestPo 28, C'Ville 35
>
>
> D5
> SB 50 Edison 7

>
> Yorkown 35, TJ 14

>
> SoCo 28 Madison 21
>
> Hayfield 14 Langley 21

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: My thoughts ()
Date: November 07, 2012 06:13PM

GridIron1 Wrote:
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> Jack:
>
> D6
> Westfield 42, W. Springfield 14
> Young D will continue to impress.

Westfield wins 42-21. Springfield scores on 2nd teamers to make it 21


> LB 35 Oakton 21
> LB rolling but was its 2nd half sched weak?
> Oakton: You have 72 hours to find your early
> season form.

If by "early season form" you really mean "play 4 crappy teams in a row"
LB 31-24

> Chantilly 28, Robinson 21
> Tough to beat a team twice in 2 weeks.
> Tilly won't rush for 400 yards again but still
> wins.
> Which Robinson team will show?

Chantilly 35, Robinson 31. Don't expect Wilson to fumble the ball twice again. Chantilly will lose - just a matter of time.

> WestPo 28, C'Ville 21 (upset pick)
> Can star's return break team's spiral?
> Young C'Ville is on way back from making 2011
> state final

C'Ville 31-28. Pierson-El keeps it close but C'ville is a better team.

> D5
> SB 42, Edison 21
> #1 seed opens big lead and coasts.
> Edison: Watch SoCo-SB playoff from 2011.

SB 49-21. They will score at will.
Edison will never be the team it was under Lewis

> Yorkown 35, TJ 17
> Brainiacs hang tough early.
> Patriots break big plays in 2nd half.

Can't argue with this one although I think the point spread may be even more.


> SoCo 35, Madison 14
> Madison's good season ends to SoCo's hot O.

This isn't last year's SoCo. Madison 28-24

Hayfield 21, Langley 17
> Saxon's ball control keeps game close but Hawks' D
> makes big plays.

I concur. Home team gets the edge

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 07, 2012 11:55PM

Here are the All-District Selections.

Concorde
QB: 3-way tie Romine (Chantilly), Downer (Oakton), Mullins (Westfield); this is a joke but my opinion is above.
RB: Turner (Centreville), Wilson (Robinson), Richardson (Westfield); hands down Wilson’s award.
WR: Tutt (Centreville), Harris (Chantilly), Eller (Westfield), Burns (Westfield)
TE: Huelskamp (Chantilly)
Offensive Player of the Year: Wilson (Robinson)
Defensive Player of the Year: Huelskamp (Chantilly); very debatable, but you can’t put much stock in these awards. A great honor though.

2nd team is irrelevant in a 6 team district with this many first-teamers.

Liberty
QB: Burns (Stone Bridge)
RB: Scott (Fairfax), Mun (Langley), O’Connor (Jefferson)
WR: Novaki (Langley), House (Madison), Parker (South Lakes), Yarborough (Stone Bridge), Higgins (Stone Bridge)
TE: Schwab (Madison)
Offensive Player of the Year: Mun (Langley)
Defensive Player of the Year: Allen (Stone Bridge) *unanimous vote

Patriot
QB: Henderson (Lake Braddock)
RB: Jolley (Lee), Pierson-El (West Potomac), Levaughn (South County)
WR: Alexander (Lake Braddock), Hollins (Lake Braddock), Aaron (South County), Moss (TC Williams)
TE: Bermingham (Annandale), Antonellis (Lake Braddock)
Offensive Player of the Year: Pierson-El (West Potomac)
Defensive Player of the Year: Oren (South County)

National
Not Reported from my source. Up on the link above.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 08, 2012 02:03PM

I forgot to include my source. VA Preps. That is the best site to get real information. My opinions are so much better than anyone else here.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: November 08, 2012 03:15PM

steve k2 Wrote:
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> I forgot to include my source. VA Preps. That is
> the best site to get real information. My
> opinions are so much better than anyone else here.


Godd stuff Steve k2,always good insights....but be humbel my man!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 08, 2012 04:07PM

I gotta go w/My Thoughts' picks of C'Ville over WestPo and Madison over SoCo. One good back isn't enough to beat C'Ville when the rest of the team hasn't been playing very well. Soco lost a lot of players from the team I saw play well vs. Phoebus last year @ UVA. Giving up 49 to WestPo and 36 to Hayfield is the concern, even though those were early games. Agree w/Gridiron1 that SoCo is on a roll now but they're playing a tougher team this week. Wanted to go see Phoebus play Heritage tomorrow (rematch of a 28-27 early game) but am going to go to a local game instead, most likely SB-Edison, Langley-Hayfield, or Chantilly-Robinson. Got any thoughts on those?



My thoughts Wrote:
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> GridIron1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jack:
> >
> > D6
> > Westfield 42, W. Springfield 14
> > Young D will continue to impress.
>
> Westfield wins 42-21. Springfield scores on 2nd
> teamers to make it 21
>
>
> > LB 35 Oakton 21
> > LB rolling but was its 2nd half sched weak?
> > Oakton: You have 72 hours to find your early
> > season form.
>
> If by "early season form" you really mean "play 4
> crappy teams in a row"
> LB 31-24
>
> > Chantilly 28, Robinson 21
> > Tough to beat a team twice in 2 weeks.
> > Tilly won't rush for 400 yards again but still
> > wins.
> > Which Robinson team will show?
>
> Chantilly 35, Robinson 31. Don't expect Wilson to
> fumble the ball twice again. Chantilly will lose -
> just a matter of time.
>
> > WestPo 28, C'Ville 21 (upset pick)
> > Can star's return break team's spiral?
> > Young C'Ville is on way back from making 2011
> > state final
>
> C'Ville 31-28. Pierson-El keeps it close but
> C'ville is a better team.
>
> > D5
> > SB 42, Edison 21
> > #1 seed opens big lead and coasts.
> > Edison: Watch SoCo-SB playoff from 2011.
>
> SB 49-21. They will score at will.
> Edison will never be the team it was under Lewis
>
> > Yorkown 35, TJ 17
> > Brainiacs hang tough early.
> > Patriots break big plays in 2nd half.
>
> Can't argue with this one although I think the
> point spread may be even more.
>
>
> > SoCo 35, Madison 14
> > Madison's good season ends to SoCo's hot O.
>
> This isn't last year's SoCo. Madison 28-24
>
> Hayfield 21, Langley 17
> > Saxon's ball control keeps game close but Hawks'
> D
> > makes big plays.
>
> I concur. Home team gets the edge

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: November 08, 2012 05:12PM

Saw Chantilly-Robinson last week and was a little disappointed the game wasn't closer. Wilson fumbled twice in the second quarter which directly led to 14 Chantilly points. Once Chantilly was up two scores, Robinson couldn't come back. I imagine the rematch will be a lot closer as I don't anticipate Wilson giving up two more TOs. This week's game could end up being one of those where the team with the ball last wins. I would give the edge to Chantilly playing at home with a better passing game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: playoffs baby ()
Date: November 09, 2012 10:46PM

Winners tonight:

D6
Westfield - no brainer
Centreville - Shut WP RB down
Chantilly - Won huge of Robinson
Oakton - Defense wins and get nice upset

D5
Stone Bridge - not even a game, but yet Edison coach does a good job
Yorktown - good season for TJ, Yorktown looks good
South County - nice comeback win
Langley - Nice pull for Langley, Hayfield mishandles ball in crucial areas

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 09, 2012 10:49PM

Here are the specifics.

Division 6
(8) West Springfield 7 @ (1) Westfield 49
(7) Oakton 20 @ (2) Lake Braddock 13
(6) West Potomac 11 @ (3) Centreville 28
(5) Robinson 21 @ (4) Chantilly 56

Next Week's Semi's
(4) Chantilly @ (1) Westfield
(7) Oakton @ (3) Centreville

Major props to the Concorde for dominating region play this year. Lake Braddock went 0-3 against the Concorde and unbeaten against everyone else. A real testament to what a district this is. The Northern Region Tournament has now become the Concorde District Tournament.


Division 5
(8) Edison 7 @ (1) Stone Bridge 69
(7) Jefferson 7 @ (2) Yorktown 37
(6) South County 19 @ (3) Madison 14
(5) Langley 21 @ (4) Hayfield 14

Next Week's Semi's
(5) Langley @ (1) Stone Bridge
(6) South County @ (2) Yorktown

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: November 09, 2012 11:00PM

Saw the Robinson game and it was deja vu from last week. If it's any consolation for Robinson, they only graduate 12 guys and they are bringing back a ton of talent next year. They could be poised to look like the Rams of old next year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: playoffs baby ()
Date: November 09, 2012 11:18PM

just curious because I have seen this in other sports in the region, doesn't the #1 or the highest seed play the lowest seed no matter what? So wouldn't Oakton be playing Westfield for example. I could be wrong here.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 10, 2012 12:17AM

I don't know about all sports in the region, but football and basketball follow a bracket format and not a reordering of seeds.

So those matchups up above are correct.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 10, 2012 09:48AM

The Chantilly @ Westfield game is going to be awesome. Both teams are playing great football right now and if it's anything like the regular season matchup it will be extremely intense.

I give the edge to Westfield, but it is interesting to note while Chantilly is 1-10 against Westfield in the regular season, they are 2-0 against Westfield in the playoffs with both wins coming as the underdog at Westfield. Westfield is a better team and more consistent, but if the good Chantilly shows up which I imagine it definitely will with the stakes this high, this will be something to see.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 10, 2012 10:06AM

I'd give the edge to Chantilly based on the past:

http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=2534&mid=159665659&sid=914&tid=159662859&style=1

Quoting:
It is interesting that Westfield has never beaten any of the 3 remaining teams in the NR playoffs. They are 0-3 against Oakton (2002, 2004, 2005), 0-3 against Chantilly (2006, 2008, 2010) and 0-1 against Centreville (2011). (South County got them in 2009).

Their Northern Region Tournament playoff wins have come against Herndon (2003, 2008), Robinson (2003, 2005, 2011), Annandale (2006), South County (2007), West Potomac (2007, 2011) and West Springfield (2007, 2012).

This despite regular season records of 11-1 vs. Centreville, 11-1, vs. Chantilly and 9-3 vs. Oakton.

I'd say this does not bode well for Westfield.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: November 10, 2012 10:22AM

Guys, the past has nothing to do with this. The game will be won or lost on the field of play. I expect this to be a very, very good HS football game between two good teams.

Congrats to the Concorde District for playing so well this season. And though a Bulldog fan, props to Oakton for taking down the #2 seed, the much hyped Lake Braddock Bruins.

At the Westfield game last night, my observation was, how did W. Springfield get into the playoffs? The looked completely overmatched. Did they beat any quality teams this year?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Robinson Roller Coaster ()
Date: November 10, 2012 10:36AM

West Springfield did beat Robinson.

Robinson is so up and down though, they beat Oakton and Centreville, and lost to Westfield by 3. They also gave a Stone Bridge a decent game, but the last two weeks lost by 20 and 35 to Chantilly.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: November 10, 2012 10:38AM

Well thats a solid win if they beat Robinson.

Robinson tough to figure out this year. One thing for sure, Wilson is a superstar but they need to find some balance on their offense.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 10, 2012 10:39AM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> I'd give the edge to Chantilly based on the past:
>
> http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=25
> 34&mid=159665659&sid=914&tid=159662859&style=1
>
> Quoting:
> It is interesting that Westfield has never beaten
> any of the 3 remaining teams in the NR playoffs.
> They are 0-3 against Oakton (2002, 2004, 2005),
> 0-3 against Chantilly (2006, 2008, 2010) and 0-1
> against Centreville (2011). (South County got
> them in 2009).
>
> Their Northern Region Tournament playoff wins have
> come against Herndon (2003, 2008), Robinson (2003,
> 2005, 2011), Annandale (2006), South County
> (2007), West Potomac (2007, 2011) and West
> Springfield (2007, 2012).
>
> This despite regular season records of 11-1 vs.
> Centreville, 11-1, vs. Chantilly and 9-3 vs.
> Oakton.
>
> I'd say this does not bode well for Westfield.


That is very interesting, isn't it? I'm not saying it has a bearing this year, but those numbers are real eye opening. The 2010 Chantilly playoff win also totally slipped my mind.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: really...talent ()
Date: November 10, 2012 11:52AM

Robinson has been playing the past two games without their starting linebackers due to discipline problems. The thing that would scare me about Chantilly is the fact the Joe Wilson rushed for 200+ yds on 30 carries. You cant give that much yardage up against Westfield on the ground and expect to win that game. That being said, I do think this is the best matchup of the week. It should be an excellent game. I predict a similar outcome to the first game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: footballernova ()
Date: November 10, 2012 12:25PM

I thought Oakton's defense looked very good against Braddock.
There were a lot of big hits in this game from Oakton.

They pressured Henderson all night and looked good in coverage.
Henderson neverlooked comfortable, Braddock didnt have much of a running game and the offense was held to about 200 yards total. The receiver 24 for Braddock is very good, has size speed and strength.

Downwer was the best player on the field last night, accounting for all 3 of Oaktons scores.

Oakton vs Centreville will be a much better game then people think.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: finals? ()
Date: November 10, 2012 12:40PM

Honestly I think any of the d6 semis could go either way. My would it be interesting to have a 4 vs. 7 seed playing for the region. Has anything like that ever happened before? I am not saying that it will, there is a decent possibility though

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: hmmmm ()
Date: November 10, 2012 12:53PM

Any chance Oakton beats Centreville this Friday? First matchup was a blowout, but Oakton did beat a very good football team last night.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 10, 2012 01:20PM

steve k2 Wrote:

> That is very interesting, isn't it? I'm not
> saying it has a bearing this year, but those
> numbers are real eye opening. The 2010 Chantilly
> playoff win also totally slipped my mind.

Yeah, it might be a bit misleading - 4 of those 7 losses came to teams that made it to the state finals. And 2 of those losses came in down years for Westfield.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: HendersonHype ()
Date: November 10, 2012 07:11PM

So Henderson aint the piece Braddock needed to make a deep playoff run? Thoughts on him next year? And yeah Concorde district is too strong and no surprise final four are all from Concorde.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 10, 2012 08:09PM

really...talent Wrote:
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The thing that would scare
> me about Chantilly is the fact the Joe Wilson
> rushed for 200+ yds on 30 carries. You cant give
> that much yardage up against Westfield on the
> ground and expect to win that game.

Wilson ran for 243 yards and 3 TD's on Westfield. He's a beast. Nothing wrong with Chantilly's defense last night. He broke 2 big ones, but most of the runs were small and contained which you will have to live with against him.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: jags ()
Date: November 10, 2012 08:14PM

CaleB H is a good player. His arm is legit. Saw the LB-Oakton game last night. Oakton's D played out of its mind. If that same D showed up in its earlier Concorde games, some of the results may have been different.

Henderson threw the ball at least 40 times. He was constantly harassed and under pressure, but he throws the ball on a rope.

No. 24 (Alexander) for LB was a stud. 6 3 wide receiver who is only a soph. He and Henderson will be tough to beat next year, so long as they get a running game. Their running game did nothing last night.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: odu? ()
Date: November 10, 2012 08:57PM

Watched ODU beat William and Mary in football earlier today, and honestly, I didnt know they even had division 1 football...when did this happen?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Northern Region football ()
Date: November 10, 2012 09:43PM

First of all, to the guy above me, this is high school football, not college football. Wrong forum. Second, everyone needs to remember: all 3 losses by lake braddock were against the concorde district. As much as oakton's defense looked dominating, both centreville and westfield's defenses looked good too. AJ Turner intercepted a Henderson pass late and returned it long to set up the game winning touchdown for cville, and wfield's defense looked very good.

My point is, both centreville and oakton both looked very good against lake braddock. I see no reason to expect anything different than what happened last time.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: odu? ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:53AM

I understand this is a high school forum, but since ODU is yet another program in virginia, I was hoping people on this forum (which is stocked with high school coaches) would know something about it. As a Parent with two high school football players at Chantilly I was looking to get some information. no big deal.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Look it up ()
Date: November 11, 2012 11:52AM

odu? Wrote:
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> Watched ODU beat William and Mary in football
> earlier today, and honestly, I didnt know they
> even had division 1 football...when did this
> happen?


They have have had football for many many years dating back to the 70's I believe, but as my father always told me when I asked him a question....look it up. On another topic, what do people think of this internet thing? Is it here to stay?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: November 11, 2012 11:57AM

Curious, with all the hype (alot of it in this forum) around Lake Braddock and Caleb Henderson, what went wrong over there? Not that a 8-3 season is anything to be ashamed of, but I know expectations were much higher. Any Lake Braddock people or others who saw them play alot have any opinions? Thanks,

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Daniel ()
Date: November 11, 2012 01:26PM

What do you think of the d5 playoffs right now

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: waste of time ()
Date: November 11, 2012 03:02PM

Daniel Wrote:
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> What do you think of the d5 playoffs right now

They should just cancel the d5 playoffs so Stone Bridge can go to the state playoffs healthy. I've got not love for SB, but they are head and shoulders above the rest of d5 - even moreso than in past seasons

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: InterestingProposition ()
Date: November 11, 2012 03:17PM

waste of time Wrote:
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>
> They should just cancel the d5 playoffs so Stone
> Bridge can go to the state playoffs healthy. I've
> got not love for SB, but they are head and
> shoulders above the rest of d5 - even moreso than
> in past seasons

Just for kicks and giggles, what if Stonebridge played in D6? How would the playoff picture be different And how would they fare against Westfield and the Concorde?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Purple Knight ()
Date: November 11, 2012 04:12PM

This year Stone Bridge would have been the strongest Concorde team, and I don't think Westfield would even give them that tight a game.

Most years though any of the strong teams in the Concorde could take Stone Bridge on a given night. They would be your typical Concorde team.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Daniel ()
Date: November 11, 2012 05:06PM

waste of time Wrote:
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> Daniel Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What do you think of the d5 playoffs right now
>
> They should just cancel the d5 playoffs so Stone
> Bridge can go to the state playoffs healthy. I've
> got not love for SB, but they are head and
> shoulders above the rest of d5 - even moreso than
> in past seasons

Like last year when they lost?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: YEah ()
Date: November 11, 2012 05:23PM

South County took them out

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Jackhole ()
Date: November 11, 2012 05:34PM

Who is talking about last year? Waste said 'moreso than in past seasons', so yeah - this team is better than last years.

Stone Bridge has won something like 100 games in the last 9 years. This year's team is on par with or better than the teams from the mid 2000s

Daniel Wrote:
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> waste of time Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Daniel Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > What do you think of the d5 playoffs right
> now
> >
> > They should just cancel the d5 playoffs so
> Stone
> > Bridge can go to the state playoffs healthy.
> I've
> > got not love for SB, but they are head and
> > shoulders above the rest of d5 - even moreso
> than
> > in past seasons
>
> Like last year when they lost?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: hs football fan ()
Date: November 11, 2012 06:21PM

I thought LB and the henderson boys were going to win the state championship? LB didn't have any better season than they normally do. Maybe they need the Henderson dad to take over and bring that pierson el kid over there.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 11, 2012 06:57PM

Purple Knight Wrote:
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> This year Stone Bridge would have been the
> strongest Concorde team, and I don't think
> Westfield would even give them that tight a game.
>
> Most years though any of the strong teams in the
> Concorde could take Stone Bridge on a given night.
> They would be your typical Concorde team.

I think you have it about right. They appear unbeatable this year. Since Stone Bridge opened their all-time record against the current Concorde District teams is 8-4.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: LB Parent ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:03PM

As a LB parent (a mom, so no technical football terms being used here) who was at the game, I have to say LB didn't look very good and they definately were not playing the same game they have been. The choice to go for the 2 point pass was not a good one. The entire section chanted "dont do it" over and over.

If LB had their act together and played football they should have beaten Oakton without a problem. This was an embarrassing game for the team to have played and to end the season with.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: i wonder ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:32PM

LB Parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> As a LB parent (a mom, so no technical football
> terms being used here) who was at the game, I have
> to say LB didn't look very good and they
> definately were not playing the same game they
> have been. The choice to go for the 2 point pass
> was not a good one. The entire section chanted
> "dont do it" over and over.
>
> If LB had their act together and played football
> they should have beaten Oakton without a problem.
> This was an embarrassing game for the team to have
> played and to end the season with.


You think Oakton's gameplan might have had something to do with Braddock "not playing the same game they have been"? Give credit where credit is due. Braddock did not lose that game; Oakton won it.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: LB Parent ()
Date: November 11, 2012 09:37PM

Yeah, I kind of do think that. And unless you were at the game...
They did win the game, but LB still played a crap game and handed it to Oakton.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really... ()
Date: November 12, 2012 05:20AM

Braddock played like the did all season. It is just different playing Concorde teams than patriot teams. Braddock should win that district every year because its not very good. Braddock has 3 losses all to Concorde teams.
Oakton had a great gameplan and they shut Braddock down.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Flagontheplay ()
Date: November 12, 2012 07:55AM

Was at the LB/Oakton game. Oakton had tons of penalties that gave them 3rd and long and LB still could not capitalize. IMHO, Braddock's coach was looking ahead, figured this would be an easy game. failed to plan well in advance, then couldn't make the halftime adjustments. Plain and simple he got outcoached. Moral of story: don't be arrogant and underestimate your opponent--it will come around to haunt you in the end.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Get Real ()
Date: November 12, 2012 07:58AM

Ahhh...Say what you will and make excuses...Oakton had a better game plan/coaching and executed. The fundamental basis for a football game. Henderson is good, but not that good. LB 24 is the real deal, and Oakton is just better. Enough said, on to round 2.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: LB Parent ()
Date: November 12, 2012 08:56AM

It was a tough loss, but LB got outcoached and outplayed. It will be fun to watch Centreville smash Oakton. I bet they beat them by 30.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Flagonthe play ()
Date: November 12, 2012 09:04AM

Interesting take. When one of my teams loses, I generally hope that the team they lost to goes deep into the playoffs--makes my team look not so bad for losing. Centreville certainly took it to Oakton last time they played, so conventional wisdom would say it won't be close. Then again, conventional wisdom would have said LB would have won by a fair amount, too, especially given last year's meeting between the two. That's what makes the playoffs so much fun.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: sanity ()
Date: November 12, 2012 09:53AM

Now that Braddock has been knocked out again by a concorde team, can we all please ditch this renner 5 wide receiver offense crap? It clearly is a quarterback driven system designed to pad big time stats on the way to a full ride at a big time university. it is NOT an effective way to win games in the northern region. I'm simply going by the stats and how teams that have employed this offense have done. It doesn't teach kids the correct way to play football, and hurts your defense by not allowing them to rest. Want proof? Look at any of the teams that have run this gimmicky system: Lake Braddock, West Potomac, Lee, TC, South Lakes, Edison, all the way back to West Springfield when renner was there...do you see any championship level defense? Also, do you see any state championships? The northern region will always fit its personnel, which are bigger, stronger lineman that dominate in the trenches. The eastern region can run spreads because of their playmaking speed by their athletes.

Want to hear a little secret? The Quarterback doesn’t even read the defense! A coach tells him who to throw to everytime!

Why more people do not adopt the Oakton and Centreville philosophy of defensive football is beyond me. your not in california, the weather will get shitty up here which doesn’t allow you to play pitch and catch like the eastern region teams do. Please face facts: You all got duped by a salesman who was lucky enough to coach 2 D1 Quarterbacks.

Sorry for the rant, but as someone who has won a state championship, I had to explain my position on something that drives me crazy. #rings#concorde#nuffsaid.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: utimefan4lyfe ()
Date: November 12, 2012 11:28AM

I disagree with the above post!
Braddock is competitive in the NR because of the offense.

Look at the numbers:

In the 7 previous years before the spread offense, they qualified for the playoffs just 1 time.
Since the spread, 4 times in 4 years.
Before the spread 30-40, 0 NR championships
After the spread 40-12, 2 NR championships

I think you have to go with what works for your team, with Braddock, it looks like the spread fits them better.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KeepitReal ()
Date: November 12, 2012 11:36AM

I would be the person to trash LB's Caleb Henderson this season, but the 4th quarter he played very good. On the last drive he put them in position to win. Had two phenomenal passes, and three others that were all dropped by #24. Good athletes play great in big situations. AJ is a great sophmore, but when going against Concorde teams he suffers. The second half LB did have an OK run game. Aaron had a really nice scamper for a TD. I agree on the 2 point conversion, stupid by all counts, especially when long drives were scarce. Oakton did play very hard and seemed to really want this win bad. The only Concorde team to dominate LB was Westfields. You guys talk like LB had no chance against Concorde teams. They aren't that far off. Braddock never seemed to get over the hump, when playing Woodson, TC and Annandale, they failed to put up big numbers like the rest of the area teams. I was at the Centreville game, they were the better team that day, shot themselves in the foot with three 15 yard penalties. They have a great Junior class and a stellar Freshman team will bring some nice added flavor.

The Robinson's Joe Show didn't work, there are 4 other backs on that team that can run very well and were hardly ever used. TC game, there was no reason to have Joe run 30-40 carries. Great Junior class coming up, but will they play for the coach. I hear many grumblings from parents and players.
Stonebridge would not beat Westfields if they played, they need to step up to division 6. I have seen them twice this year, but they are not as good as their state year by far. Have a few great athletes for sure. Lets see how they fair against the Tidal water teams



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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Keep it really real ()
Date: November 12, 2012 12:27PM

SB would crush every Concorde team this year Chantilly was very competitive in the big bad D6 Concorde all year and they looked like they didn't even belong on the field with SB this year. Then the Robinson running back piles up yards in the Concorde this year and a reputation on this board and he gained maybe ten yards against SB this year. Westfield is young SB is a much more experienced team this year and much better at year end SB would beat every team in the Concorde by at least 3 TD's right now and probably more.

And get over yourself the Concorde is just an above average league playing HIGH SCHOOL Football and any Concorde team would have been killed by the Phoebus teams of 2010 and 2008 and 2007 so until a Concorde team beats a Phoebus shut up about "let's see how SB does against the Tidewater teams" Phoebus would have rolled all of your champions including your 2007 Westfield 15-0 team

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: November 12, 2012 12:35PM

Westfield beat Oscar Smith for the state title. The Oscar Smith fans were all running their mouth before the game, but they got beat. Definately more athletes down in the Beach area, but don't say they cant be beat. Centrville and Oakton won state titles too. Teams are generally very well coached up here.

I am a Concord/Westfield fan, and believe Stone Bridge probably has the better team, but it would not be a blow out. Jonathan Allen is the real difference maker. But, through no fault of their own, play nothing but patsies in their District all year long.

Yes, they beat Chantilly, but why didnt they put up 50 or 60 pts on them?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Play them all ()
Date: November 12, 2012 12:41PM

No doubt Phoebus and Stone Bridge put out a strong team. Do me one favor and play Oakton, Chantilly Centreville, Robinson and Westfield in your last five games and tell me how healthy you are and how you stand. Thats five weeks of playoff football ... before the playoffs START.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KeepitReal ()
Date: November 12, 2012 12:59PM

You took my point about Phoebus wrong, I thought that they generally are a better team. I totally disagree that this area can't compete against them. Every year it's a toss up who has the better teams. I seem to remember our Patriot/Concord teams beating the Tidal water teams from 97 till a few year ago frequently. SC beat everyone except the State team. Your point isn't very valid. Lee was competitive against SB a few years ago.

And yes the above poster is correct about Oakton's tough back end schedule. In 05 Oakton won the state title after playing all of those teams back to back. They went on to beat Percy Harvin's Landsdown.



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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: November 12, 2012 01:02PM

Play them all Wrote:
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> No doubt Phoebus and Stone Bridge put out a strong
> team. Do me one favor and play Oakton, Chantilly
> Centreville, Robinson and Westfield in your last
> five games and tell me how healthy you are and how
> you stand. Thats five weeks of playoff football
> ... before the playoffs START.


Excellent point and well said. There just arent many nights off in the Concorde. Up until the last week it looked like Oakton may be the #8 seed, and I will tell you, what kind of reward is that for a #1 seed to play in the first round! They are all tough on any given Friday night.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KeepitReal2 ()
Date: November 12, 2012 01:03PM

Robinson had 1 great back and a few very average ones. Anyone with eyes could see how much better Wilson was than the other backs on that team. Also, Wilson put up over 100 yds against Stonebridge as well. If the younger skill develops around Wilson, the Rams could be tough next season.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KeepitReal ()
Date: November 12, 2012 01:08PM

So do most teams have one really good back, but find a way to incorporate others into the game. Every team that is winning has running by committee, just look at the week to week stats. I know most of those players on Robinson, they would have fared just fine as backs that could give Joe a break. It's ridiculous to have a kid carry the ball 400 times in a season. The wear and tear on his body is going to catch up with him.

Westfields backs

1 Dalaun Richardson 1482
2 Tyler Thrasher-Walker 726
3 Brian Garland 387
4 Evan Gray 275
5 Chris Mullins 91

Chantilly
1 Deandre Harris 1139
2 Ross Simms 930
3 Sonny Romine 728
4 Raeshawn Smith 404
5 David Kerns 104


Rob backs
Joe Wilson 2358
2 Jack Rowlett 164
3 Garrett Velasquez 93
4 Turner Peterson 73
5 Justin Bowen 48


I could post all the other wining teams and it would look the same. Obviously it didn't work 5-6 aint going to do it. The other backs weren't even given a chance or given enough carries to prove themselves



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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 12, 2012 04:19PM

The best D6 FB is played in the NR. Here, you have 2-3 teams every year that can win states, lately W'field and C'ville. Concorde to me seems like the SEC of VHSL FB while the beach usually fields just one top team (lately O. Smith).

In D5, it's different. Last 15 years: ER 10 titles, NR 1. Phoebus has won 5 of 6 and Hampton won 3 before that. Good D + a conservative O hasn't won. That might be why SB changed its O. They are much tougher w/a passing game. Meanwhile, Phoebus is still having strife and Lake Taylor's sched is suspect. So this def could SB's year. No disrespect to remaining NR-D5s. Langley's good run game was shut down by SB in a 27-6 district loss. SoCo is on another run but its D is not as good as last year's (gave up 53 to Robinson, 49 to WestPo and 36 to Hayfield). Yortown has beaten 4 playoff teams (Langley, Hayfield, TJ, and Edison) but both lines and its QB are suspect.







KeepitReal Wrote:
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> You took my point about Phoebus wrong, I thought
> that they generally are a better team. I totally
> disagree that this area can't compete against
> them. Every year it's a toss up who has the
> better teams. I seem to remember our
> Patriot/Concord teams beating the Tidal water
> teams from 97 till a few year ago frequently. SC
> beat everyone except the State team. Your point
> isn't very valid. Lee was competitive against SB
> a few years ago.
>
> And yes the above poster is correct about Oakton's
> tough back end schedule. In 05 Oakton won the
> state title after playing all of those teams back
> to back. They went on to beat Percy Harvin's
> Landsdown.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WestfieldDad ()
Date: November 12, 2012 04:21PM

KeepitReal Wrote:
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Add in the passing game and it's even worse for Wilson -

Westfield -
Chris Mullins 1472

Chantilly -
Sonny Romine 1380

Robinson -
Jack Rowlett 296
Michael Hugney 236
Joe Wilson 18



>
> Westfields backs
>
> 1 Dalaun Richardson 1482
> 2 Tyler Thrasher-Walker 726
> 3 Brian Garland 387
> 4 Evan Gray 275
> 5 Chris Mullins 91
>
> Chantilly
> 1 Deandre Harris 1139
> 2 Ross Simms 930
> 3 Sonny Romine 728
> 4 Raeshawn Smith 404
> 5 David Kerns 104
>
>
> Rob backs
> Joe Wilson 2358
> 2 Jack Rowlett 164
> 3 Garrett Velasquez 93
> 4 Turner Peterson 73
> 5 Justin Bowen 48
>
>
> I could post all the other wining teams and it
> would look the same. Obviously it didn't work
> 5-6 aint going to do it. The other backs weren't
> even given a chance or given enough carries to
> prove themselves

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: nove dude ()
Date: November 13, 2012 08:44AM

Joe Wilson had 45 carries against Oakton. What coach in his right mind has his high school back run that many times in a game? Isn't there a question of liability here if he were to come up a with a serious injury and/or a concussion?

Ask Earl Campbell how well it worked out for him when he carried the ball 30-40 times a game at Texas and in the NFL for the Oilers. The man can't walk now.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: farfaxfan ()
Date: November 13, 2012 09:17AM

Next year Nick Scott will beat all those numbers because we like Centreville run the wing T and play tough

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Come On Man ()
Date: November 13, 2012 09:45AM

If I was playing against Robinson, I would have loved it if they gave the ball to someone besides Wilson. The rest of the offense was average to below average. He was by far the best offensive player in the region. I do agree, however, that they need to watch his carries, but this isn't college or the NFL. Wilson is athletically and phyiscally superior to almost everyone who comes to tackle him. He is the one usually doing the punishing not the tacklers.
Anyway, the games this weekend should be great. Hopefully whoever wins the region comes out healthy.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 13, 2012 10:39AM

Here are the sreads for week 12. Aside from the Stone Bridge game, the other 3 are up for grabs. Should be a great Friday night!

Division 6
Chantilly @ Westfield (-8.5)
Oakton @ Centreville (-6.0)

Division 5
Langley @ Stone Bridge (-20.0)
South County @ Yorktown (-3.0)

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: piopqewrq ()
Date: November 13, 2012 02:04PM

sanity Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Now that Braddock has been knocked out again by a
> concorde team, can we all please ditch this renner
> 5 wide receiver offense crap? It clearly is a
> quarterback driven system designed to pad big time
> stats on the way to a full ride at a big time
> university. it is NOT an effective way to win
> games in the northern region. I'm simply going by
> the stats and how teams that have employed this
> offense have done. It doesn't teach kids the
> correct way to play football, and hurts your
> defense by not allowing them to rest. Want proof?
> Look at any of the teams that have run this
> gimmicky system: Lake Braddock, West Potomac, Lee,
> TC, South Lakes, Edison, all the way back to West
> Springfield when renner was there...do you see any
> championship level defense? Also, do you see any
> state championships? The northern region will
> always fit its personnel, which are bigger,
> stronger lineman that dominate in the trenches.
> The eastern region can run spreads because of
> their playmaking speed by their athletes.
>
> Want to hear a little secret? The Quarterback
> doesn’t even read the defense! A coach tells him
> who to throw to everytime!
>
> Why more people do not adopt the Oakton and
> Centreville philosophy of defensive football is
> beyond me. your not in california, the weather
> will get shitty up here which doesn’t allow you
> to play pitch and catch like the eastern region
> teams do. Please face facts: You all got duped by
> a salesman who was lucky enough to coach 2 D1
> Quarterbacks.
>
> Sorry for the rant, but as someone who has won a
> state championship, I had to explain my position
> on something that drives me crazy.
> #rings#concorde#nuffsaid.

Braddock had some pretty damn good defensive players when they went to the state championship in 2009. Lavery, STickford, Adetunji, Abbasi were all studs

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: cvillebacker ()
Date: November 13, 2012 02:22PM

Keep it really real Wrote:
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> SB would crush every Concorde team this year
> Chantilly was very competitive in the big bad D6
> Concorde all year and they looked like they didn't
> even belong on the field with SB this year. Then
> the Robinson running back piles up yards in the
> Concorde this year and a reputation on this board
> and he gained maybe ten yards against SB this
> year. Westfield is young SB is a much more
> experienced team this year and much better at year
> end SB would beat every team in the Concorde by at
> least 3 TD's right now and probably more.
>
> And get over yourself the Concorde is just an
> above average league playing HIGH SCHOOL Football
> and any Concorde team would have been killed by
> the Phoebus teams of 2010 and 2008 and 2007 so
> until a Concorde team beats a Phoebus shut up
> about "let's see how SB does against the Tidewater
> teams" Phoebus would have rolled all of your
> champions including your 2007 Westfield 15-0 team


This is a stale subject brought up by jealous SB fans all the time. The Concorde district is the toughest district in the state! SB was asked to join the Concorde when they entered the Northern Region, Thompson saw the writing on the wall and balked at joining this power district and cried to join the patsy District they are in. So now they play 1 or 2 Concorde teams at the start of the season and then run up and down their District until they play a good team in the postseason and get beat. Great Record EXCEPT when it comes to State Championships.

You cannot compare Tidewater teams to Northern Region teams because Phoebus and Smith have the ability to RECRUIT their players (kind of like Stone Bridge up until a couple of years ago) Tidewater has a liberal transfer policy that allows you to go to the school of your choice. If that was in play in Northern Region we would field a Power team that could not be beat. Imagine if Westfield had never opened and you still had the majority of kids from Westfield and Centreville playing on the same team. OR Any kid who wanted to could play for Centreville or Westfield.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 13, 2012 05:08PM

Concorde hands down plays VA's best D6. Counting C'ville's win in 2000, 4 of the 6 teams have won titles. If you count 1996 (Chantilly), 5 have won. No other district comes close to that level of balance.

Why does Concorde win @ states? Enrollments have something to do with it. Concorde has 3 of VA's 7 biggest schools and 6 of the top 23.
http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/rr-adm-march-2012-six-classes.pdf.I believe it's much more than that, too. From experience, I've seen that whichever team escapes both Concorde and the NR is going to be very competitive @ states.

A combined W'field-C'Ville team would be awesome. The same can be said about SB-Briar Woods, Phoebus-O.Smith. Every year, Phoebus srimmages O.Smith and every year it has to beat teams like Hampton to get out of the ER. These things help Phoebus get ready for states, arguably more than rumored transfers. Peninsula district is no Concorde, but it's pretty good.



























cvillebacker Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Keep it really real Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SB would crush every Concorde team this year
> > Chantilly was very competitive in the big bad
> D6
> > Concorde all year and they looked like they
> didn't
> > even belong on the field with SB this year.
> Then
> > the Robinson running back piles up yards in the
> > Concorde this year and a reputation on this
> board
> > and he gained maybe ten yards against SB this
> > year. Westfield is young SB is a much more
> > experienced team this year and much better at
> year
> > end SB would beat every team in the Concorde by
> at
> > least 3 TD's right now and probably more.
> >
> > And get over yourself the Concorde is just an
> > above average league playing HIGH SCHOOL
> Football
> > and any Concorde team would have been killed by
> > the Phoebus teams of 2010 and 2008 and 2007 so
> > until a Concorde team beats a Phoebus shut up
> > about "let's see how SB does against the
> Tidewater
> > teams" Phoebus would have rolled all of your
> > champions including your 2007 Westfield 15-0
> team
>
>
> This is a stale subject brought up by jealous SB
> fans all the time. The Concorde district is the
> toughest district in the state! SB was asked to
> join the Concorde when they entered the Northern
> Region, Thompson saw the writing on the wall and
> balked at joining this power district and cried to
> join the patsy District they are in. So now they
> play 1 or 2 Concorde teams at the start of the
> season and then run up and down their District
> until they play a good team in the postseason and
> get beat. Great Record EXCEPT when it comes to
> State Championships.
>
> You cannot compare Tidewater teams to Northern
> Region teams because Phoebus and Smith have the
> ability to RECRUIT their players (kind of like
> Stone Bridge up until a couple of years ago)
> Tidewater has a liberal transfer policy that
> allows you to go to the school of your choice. If
> that was in play in Northern Region we would field
> a Power team that could not be beat. Imagine if
> Westfield had never opened and you still had the
> majority of kids from Westfield and Centreville
> playing on the same team. OR Any kid who wanted
> to could play for Centreville or Westfield.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: November 13, 2012 06:49PM

Agree--it's no surprise to see who is left in D6-NR. Playing a Concorde sched def gets you ready for playoffs.

Nothing against prior SB teams, but maybe it doesn't help to play a Liberty sched of S.Lakes, Marshall, TJ, Mad, McLean and Langley.

This year's SB team is special--balance and talent all over. I saw the Langley game and can see why nobody has come within 2 TDs ofthem, including Robinson and 'Tilly. They could drop 40 on Langley this Fri and should easily handle the winner of South County-Yorktown.




EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> Concorde hands down plays VA's best D6. Counting
> C'ville's win in 2000, 4 of the 6 teams have won
> titles. If you count 1996 (Chantilly), 5 have won.
> No other district comes close to that level of
> balance.
>
> Why does Concorde win @ states? Enrollments have
> something to do with it. Concorde has 3 of VA's 7
> biggest schools and 6 of the top 23.
> http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/rr-adm-march-2012-s
> ix-classes.pdf.I believe it's much more than that,
> too. From experience, I've seen that whichever
> team escapes both Concorde and the NR is going to
> be very competitive @ states.
>
> A combined W'field-C'Ville team would be awesome.
> The same can be said about SB-Briar Woods,
> Phoebus-O.Smith. Every year, Phoebus srimmages
> O.Smith and every year it has to beat teams like
> Hampton to get out of the ER. These things help
> Phoebus get ready for states, arguably more than
> rumored transfers. Peninsula district is no
> Concorde, but it's pretty good
>>
>
> cvillebacker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Keep it really real Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > SB would crush every Concorde team this year
> > > Chantilly was very competitive in the big bad
> > D6
> > > Concorde all year and they looked like they
> > didn't
> > > even belong on the field with SB this year.
> > Then
> > > the Robinson running back piles up yards in
> the
> > > Concorde this year and a reputation on this
> > board
> > > and he gained maybe ten yards against SB this
> > > year. Westfield is young SB is a much more
> > > experienced team this year and much better at
> > year
> > > end SB would beat every team in the Concorde
> by
> > at
> > > least 3 TD's right now and probably more.
> > >
> > > And get over yourself the Concorde is just an
> > > above average league playing HIGH SCHOOL
> > Football
> > > and any Concorde team would have been killed
> by
> > > the Phoebus teams of 2010 and 2008 and 2007
> so
> > > until a Concorde team beats a Phoebus shut up
> > > about "let's see how SB does against the
> > Tidewater
> > > teams" Phoebus would have rolled all of your
> > > champions including your 2007 Westfield 15-0
> > team
> >
> >
> > This is a stale subject brought up by jealous
> SB
> > fans all the time. The Concorde district is the
> > toughest district in the state! SB was asked
> to
> > join the Concorde when they entered the
> Northern
> > Region, Thompson saw the writing on the wall
> and
> > balked at joining this power district and cried
> to
> > join the patsy District they are in. So now
> they
> > play 1 or 2 Concorde teams at the start of the
> > season and then run up and down their District
> > until they play a good team in the postseason
> and
> > get beat. Great Record EXCEPT when it comes to
> > State Championships.
> >
> > You cannot compare Tidewater teams to Northern
> > Region teams because Phoebus and Smith have the
> > ability to RECRUIT their players (kind of like
> > Stone Bridge up until a couple of years ago)
> > Tidewater has a liberal transfer policy that
> > allows you to go to the school of your choice.
> If
> > that was in play in Northern Region we would
> field
> > a Power team that could not be beat. Imagine
> if
> > Westfield had never opened and you still had
> the
> > majority of kids from Westfield and Centreville
> > playing on the same team. OR Any kid who
> wanted
> > to could play for Centreville or Westfield.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Mannish Boy ()
Date: November 13, 2012 08:10PM

Stone Bridge was supposed to "easily" handle South County in the playoffs last year too! Definitely a lot of talent on SB and they are the team to beat in NR Div 5, but one game at a time.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SB question ()
Date: November 13, 2012 08:23PM

I could be wrong, but isn't this senior class at Stone Bridge that last class that was able to attend any Loudoun County school they wished under their old rules? I think they were grandfathered in, which is why many of their athletes stayed there and again are successful. I expect Stone Bridge to really go down in the next couple of years as their JV/freshmen teams have lost to other Liberty district opponents and aren't the feeder teams they once were.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: November 13, 2012 09:38PM

Yeah, good point about Soco-SB last year. This year, SB beat 2 Concordes early and skated through the Liberty. That's good, but who knows how good?

In NR, I wouldn't dismiss Soco or Yorktown. SoCo is playing well and is physical enough to hang with SB; Yorktown has a few quality players and might suprise. Outside of NR, you've got N. Stafford, Phoebus, and Lake Taylor. Last year, N.Stafford lost to Phoebus by 1 when its 2 point conversion narrowly failed. This year, it beat Battlefield and lost only to C.Forge, 7-0, which is 8-2 and still playing.


Mannish Boy Wrote:
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> Stone Bridge was supposed to "easily" handle South
> County in the playoffs last year too! Definitely
> a lot of talent on SB and they are the team to
> beat in NR Div 5, but one game at a time.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Fairfax Underground Helper ()
Date: November 13, 2012 10:53PM

N. Stafford, Phoebus, and Lake Taylor. Last year,
> N.Stafford lost to Phoebus by 1 when its 2 point
> conversion narrowly failed. This year, it beat
> Battlefield and lost only to C.Forge, 7-0, which
> is 8-2 and still playing.

Who? Who? Who? Who? What part of Fairfax County are these schools in?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:02PM

If we're going there, then SB isn't in the county, either.


Fairfax Underground Helper Wrote:
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> N. Stafford, Phoebus, and Lake Taylor. Last year,
> > N.Stafford lost to Phoebus by 1 when its 2
> point
> > conversion narrowly failed. This year, it beat
> > Battlefield and lost only to C.Forge, 7-0,
> which
> > is 8-2 and still playing.
>
> Who? Who? Who? Who? What part of Fairfax County
> are these schools in?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Fairfax Underground Helper ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:29PM

Amen. Stop talking about Stone Bridge too!!! They're slowly but surely moving to more Loudoun county competition in the upcoming years.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Hey Mannish Boy and SEC1 ()
Date: November 13, 2012 11:36PM

Mannish no one who knew the SB team last year thought they would skate by SoCo SB was a fair team compared to previous teams at SB starting some where around 3-4 seniors, and everyone who paid attention knew SoCo was a senior dominated team with all the potential to come together that one year and beat SB.

SEC1 you have it the wrong way it is the Concorde teams that are jealous of SB and that's the tired old argument about expecting SB a D5 size school to play in the Concorde Thompson would never be able to get the AD and Principal to join the Concorde for all sports just so the Concorde football teams could feel better about SB be rated higher than them only playing in the Liberty

and SB Question Loudoun County schools never let kids transfer at will and there is no last year and no grandfathering to discuss. Some transfers that went out of their way may give you that perception but it is not a policy and when I say went out of the way they did major things to make their kids legal SB residents attendees. But they did live in the school area and I could tell you the two kids that were complete bullshit but their parents had the money to live in two places so they were legal, no one else have ever been in because of some open policy that's an urban jealous Fairfax legend

That being said unless they keep getting kids who move in from other areas like Burns and Allen did when their parents moved from out of state and chose SB they will be in a decline as BR, BW and SB all are in the same town and BW has the demographics for the better teams in the future not SB

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: November 14, 2012 07:42AM

Please go to Loudoun Underground to discuss Stone Bridge at length.

We have some GREAT playoff games coming up this weekend in FAIRFAX CTY....lets hear some talk about that!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fan response ()
Date: November 14, 2012 09:58AM

SB plays all Fairfax teams so the topic is relevant on a Fairfax Underground High School Football thread When it comes to high school football SB is a Fairfax topic

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Know your Facts! ()
Date: November 14, 2012 04:37PM

Robinson's running back ran for over 130 yards on SB's defense. They also ran a different offense (Piston) vs. Sb than they did for much of the rest of the season when they switched to the Pro-I, because of personnel needs.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Mannish Boy ()
Date: November 14, 2012 05:35PM

Families can and will "move" to get their kid to a different school where it might be more advantageous for them to play a sport like football. Take Caleb Henderson, for instance, who moved from West Po to Lake Braddock. The reason given and the real reason are probably not the same.


Hey Mannish Boy and SEC1 Wrote:
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> Mannish no one who knew the SB team last year
> thought they would skate by SoCo SB was a fair
> team compared to previous teams at SB starting
> some where around 3-4 seniors, and everyone who
> paid attention knew SoCo was a senior dominated
> team with all the potential to come together that
> one year and beat SB.
>
> SEC1 you have it the wrong way it is the Concorde
> teams that are jealous of SB and that's the tired
> old argument about expecting SB a D5 size school
> to play in the Concorde Thompson would never be
> able to get the AD and Principal to join the
> Concorde for all sports just so the Concorde
> football teams could feel better about SB be rated
> higher than them only playing in the Liberty
>
> and SB Question Loudoun County schools never let
> kids transfer at will and there is no last year
> and no grandfathering to discuss. Some transfers
> that went out of their way may give you that
> perception but it is not a policy and when I say
> went out of the way they did major things to make
> their kids legal SB residents attendees. But they
> did live in the school area and I could tell you
> the two kids that were complete bullshit but their
> parents had the money to live in two places so
> they were legal, no one else have ever been in
> because of some open policy that's an urban
> jealous Fairfax legend
>
> That being said unless they keep getting kids who
> move in from other areas like Burns and Allen did
> when their parents moved from out of state and
> chose SB they will be in a decline as BR, BW and
> SB all are in the same town and BW has the
> demographics for the better teams in the future
> not SB

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Northern Region football ()
Date: November 14, 2012 09:12PM

Mannish Boy,

The only reason Henderson went to WestPo in the first place last year was because his dad was the head coach. He lives inside LB borders (I think) and would go their anyway because his dad is now an assistant at LB.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ruling ()
Date: November 14, 2012 09:17PM

Northern Region football Wrote:
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> Mannish Boy,
>
> The only reason Henderson went to WestPo in the
> first place last year was because his dad was the
> head coach. He lives inside LB borders (I think)
> and would go their anyway because his dad is now
> an assistant at LB.


Not sure, nor do I care where this kid lives and who he plays for, but just because his dad is a coach at the school isn't grounds for his son to be able to attend West Pot. He has to be a full time employee at the school, coaches are part time employees. Now if he performed other duties to be considered full time or was a teacher/security, then he was fine to attend that school.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really...talent ()
Date: November 14, 2012 09:23PM

Henderson moved into LB district, he is also a full time teacher at the school. He goes there legally. Leave the kid alone. Don't judge the kids for sins of the father.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Know your own facts ()
Date: November 14, 2012 10:27PM

Wilson had 133 and 4.6 ypc. This is an off day for him.

On the season, Wilson averaged about 215 per game with 7 ypc.


Know your Facts! Wrote:
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> Robinson's running back ran for over 130 yards on
> SB's defense. They also ran a different offense
> (Piston) vs. Sb than they did for much of the rest
> of the season when they switched to the Pro-I,
> because of personnel needs.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ruling ()
Date: November 14, 2012 11:10PM

Really...talent Wrote:
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> Henderson moved into LB district, he is also a
> full time teacher at the school. He goes there
> legally. Leave the kid alone. Don't judge the
> kids for sins of the father.


If you carefully read the posting I wrote, I stated that if his father was employed full time at the school then it is completely legal to do. However the post before mine was stating that he attended West Pot simply for the fact that his dad was the coach which is illegal to do. I was defending your boy and explaining the rule to another. Relax chief, the war is over.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wow999 ()
Date: November 15, 2012 06:59AM

come on, family lived in WP district, poppa hendo coached there, pop was fired, they moved, kids enrolled at LB and they played this fall. WTF - this is ridiculous.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: November 15, 2012 07:56AM

Here we go again with all of the Henderson discussion....people seem to be really obsessed with these guys.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: sins? ()
Date: November 15, 2012 08:03AM

What sins?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: November 15, 2012 08:32AM

Was at Robinson-SB. SB keyed all over the guy. He had one big run, maybe 50 yards; the rest of the yards were hard to get. You could still tell that this dude can play. As it turned out this year, SB shutdown every back it faced, including O'Connor from TJ and Mun from Langley.

Can Langley beat SB tomorrow night? Based on the game 1, no way. Langley has a chance in my mind if it throws on 1st down and if SB's QB has an off game, something that has happened in the past.

As for the other games, all I keep hearing is that the D6 final will once again be C-Ville and W'field. Anybody got any other thoughts?


Know your own facts Wrote:
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> Wilson had 133 and 4.6 ypc. This is an off day for
> him.
>
> On the season, Wilson averaged about 215 per game
> with 7 ypc.
>
>
> Know your Facts! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Robinson's running back ran for over 130 yards
> on
> > SB's defense. They also ran a different offense
> > (Piston) vs. Sb than they did for much of the
> rest
> > of the season when they switched to the Pro-I,
> > because of personnel needs.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fan ()
Date: November 15, 2012 09:33AM

Sins? Not really sure anybody in this forum is qualified to judge sins. Pathetic losers, can and will, resort to desperate measures when their plans continually fail. Take Dale Eaton, for example. (or his deciples, who are dwindling, by the way) Biggest bully in the county. Cowardly antics, after he was forced to retire, that got a secretary fired and put WP admin in the hot seat. All but black balled from the Northern Region, because most coach's think he is a joke. ALL DSA's in the county think he is a joke. Worn out his welcome with the cluster admin as well. Huge liability to the Lang staff, and word on the street is he is on his way out of there due to a recent disagreement with a parent. Yet he continues to hand out the kool aid to a couple of loyal followers and be a sociopath obsessed with a family who left town. Can we please get this guy some help?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The Piston Offense ()
Date: November 15, 2012 09:42AM

Know your Facts! Wrote:
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> Robinson's running back ran for over 130 yards on
> SB's defense. They also ran a different offense
> (Piston) vs. Sb than they did for much of the rest
> of the season when they switched to the Pro-I,
> because of personnel needs.


LOL I would love to see the Piston offense - was it invented in Detroit? Is it more similar to the Pistol or the Spark Plug? And what were the personnel needs that caused them to switch - run out of gas?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: quit whining ()
Date: November 15, 2012 11:36AM

wow999 Wrote:
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> come on, family lived in WP district, poppa hendo
> coached there, pop was fired, they moved, kids
> enrolled at LB and they played this fall. WTF -
> this is ridiculous.


So you people bitch about when Stone Bridge is the subject, then you bitch when the subject is changed. It is a forum people so get over it. Let's just argue over stats and whine about who didn't get what. I think you are ridiculous. Big topic seems to be that Taylor was fired from Robinson. Is this rumor or fact?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: RydellRoad ()
Date: November 15, 2012 12:08PM

GridIron1 Wrote:
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> As for the other games, all I keep hearing is that
> the D6 final will once again be C-Ville and
> W'field. Anybody got any other thoughts?

I would rate Chantilly the better chance at an "upset." After watching the first Oakton-Centreville game I just don't see any chance that Oakton can contain Centreville's speed.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: really...talent ()
Date: November 15, 2012 12:25PM

My "sins of the father" was just a quote saying dont take bad about the kid because you dont like the father. I am defending Caleb Henderson. Who is anybody on this message board to speak bad about kids? As far as I am concerned we can talk about the games and how amazing some of these kids are, but we should not be speaking poorly about kids.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: really... ()
Date: November 15, 2012 12:27PM

Anybody else hear this??? Where did you get this info?

quit whining Wrote:
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> wow999 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Big topic seems to be that Taylor was fired from
> Robinson. Is this rumor or fact?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Know your Facts! ()
Date: November 15, 2012 01:03PM

Clearly I knew my own facts. He ran for over 130 yards as I stated. And you said he ran for like 10 yards. I was right and you corrected yourself later!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KeepitReal ()
Date: November 15, 2012 01:09PM

Yes it has been confirmed he was fired.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Northern Region football ()
Date: November 15, 2012 07:33PM

Well back to the games...

Cville vs Oakton--I see it being the same type of game. Oakton hangs tough for a quarter and a half, then Cville pulls away.

Wfield and Tilly-- Not nearly as close as the first one. If Westfield gets up early, it's over. If Tilly keeps this one close through the first, it will be an awesome game, but I don't see that happening.

If both my predictions come true, another Cville vs Wfield game! If this keeps up, it may become the best rivalry in the area.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really...talent ()
Date: November 15, 2012 08:14PM

Oakton 34 Centreville 21
Chantilly 20 Westfield 17 in OT

Sets up an Oakton vs Chantilly rematch of the regional final from 2008.

Gonna be awesome games tomorrow

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: another thought ()
Date: November 15, 2012 08:31PM

Northern Region football Wrote:
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> Well back to the games...
>
> Cville vs Oakton--I see it being the same type of
> game. Oakton hangs tough for a quarter and a half,
> then Cville pulls away.

> If both my predictions come true, another Cville
> vs Wfield game! If this keeps up, it may become
> the best rivalry in the area.


I disagree with the Oakton/CVille game. I think it is going to be closer because of the fact that they put athletes back into the defense with Downer and Wandey taking roles back there. Playing both ways on the field will certainly mess with their offense too though so I think we are going to see a similar type of game that they had against LB, but I still think CVille wins it, but by 7 points or less. If Oakton controls the clock more, plays a slower paced game, and limits their turnovers (or points given up off of turnovers), then they will have a strong chance of winning. They need to do those 3 things to win though, any failure with one of those and they lose easily.

CVille vs Westfield is the best rivalry already when it comes to football.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: wedasd ()
Date: November 16, 2012 09:34PM

can i get an update on westfield-chantilly

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The man ()
Date: November 16, 2012 10:07PM

Westfield was up 34-7 in the third when I left. They are too big and too fast. Romine threw everything behind his receivers. He's average at best as a thrower.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: scores ()
Date: November 16, 2012 10:15PM

Westfield 34
Chantilly 20 4th Qtr

Oakton 14
Centreville 13 Final

Stone Bridge 33
Langley 14 Final

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Cream of Sum Yung Gui ()
Date: November 16, 2012 10:20PM

Wasn't at the game but heard through word-o'-mouth that Downer scored a TD with no time left on the clock. PAT was good giving Oakton a 14-13 win. Also heard that in the 2nd C'Ville missed two FGs and turned it over on downs with goal-to-go.

Oakton @ Westfield next week for the D6 finals.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WHS ()
Date: November 16, 2012 10:32PM

Woo! Next saturday is going to be epic!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 16, 2012 11:37PM

The man Wrote:
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> Westfield was up 34-7 in the third when I left.
> They are too big and too fast. Romine threw
> everything behind his receivers. He's average at
> best as a thrower.

Romine had some good throws after it was too late. In the 2nd quarter down by 7 he had #9 wide wide open for a TD and he threw a one-hopper wobbler for no apparent reason. He threw 3 or 4 picks + Westfield intercepted one in the end zone in the 4th quarter that was called back on some unexplained penalty.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 16, 2012 11:51PM

D6
Chantilly 27 @ Westfield 34
Looks good in the paper, but down 34-7 this game wasn't close

Oakton 14 @ Centreville 13
thrilling game, but doesn't set up for a great regional championship

D5
Langley 14 @ Stone Bridge 33
South County 28 @ Yorktown 48

Regional Championships Set!
Friday: Yorktown @ Stone Bridge
Saturday: Oakton @ Westfield

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: another thought ()
Date: November 16, 2012 11:58PM

I love being right on the Oakton game, but Steve how can you say that the D6 game doesn't make for a good championship? Would yor thoughts have been different if CVille was in it? Oakton is a different team now and it should still be a good game to watch.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 17, 2012 12:17AM

another thought Wrote:
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> I love being right on the Oakton game, but Steve
> how can you say that the D6 game doesn't make for
> a good championship? Would yor thoughts have been
> different if CVille was in it? Oakton is a
> different team now and it should still be a good
> game to watch.

I thought the one team that had a shot at Westfield, be it a small shot, was Chantilly. I went and watched Westfield demolish Centreville 3 weeks ago, and I did not think that would be a very good rematch.

With Oakton, while they have a respectable defense, I do not think they can score enough points on Westfield's D to hang with them. Hopefully I'm wrong and it's a great game, but I think Westfield will win very comfortably.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: another thought ()
Date: November 17, 2012 01:07AM

fair enough. I too think Oakton's nice regional run will come to an end as Westfield is the team to beat and should be heavily favored. I think it will be more interesting than people think though as Oakton's roster is mostly healthy, the defense is rejuvenated and mixed up to where scouting it can be difficult, offense can put up points (but slowing the pace is what helps them). The score should be a lot better than last time. Gotta love Concorde football!!!

What are people's thoughts on SB vs Yorktown? Two undefeated teams and personally I would love to see SB be taken down a peg or two. See you all at Westfield next week!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really...talent ()
Date: November 17, 2012 01:45AM

The Oakton vs Westfield regular season game was good. Oakton had some turnover issues and gave up a few huge plays, but they moved the ball well. I think it is gonna be a great regional final.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Northern Region football ()
Date: November 17, 2012 07:55AM

Centreville should have won this game. Should have put it away early. Their defense was playing very well, and for the most part so was the offense, although they couldn't punch it it. They were taking it 60 or 70 yards every drive, but the two missed field goals were key. They weren't getting their big plays from Turner or Nickens-yzer. But still should have won this game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRfan ()
Date: November 17, 2012 08:09AM

Both Regional finals will be jokes! Westfield will destroy Oakton and SB against Yorktown even worse. Centreville dominated the game last night BUT missed 3 Field Goals and had 2 TDs called back on penalties. Oakton is no better now than they were in the regular season.

Yorktown is the most over rated team in the area, they beat up on National District teams, but now, welcome to the big time. SB will dominate Yorktown on defense, Yorktown will not score until SB calls the dogs off.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: However,,,,, ()
Date: November 17, 2012 09:06AM

You can dominate all you want, but if you can't stop a supposedly not so good team (which is what you implied) that has to go 60 yards in two minutes with no time outs, then you didn't dominate when it counted. And if Oakton is no better than they were previously, does that mean that Centreville is worse than they were in the regular season, because Centreville blew them out in the second half before? We all know that the Concorde is tough. Look at past history. Just because one team beat another in the regular season doesn't mean it's a given that the same thing will happen in the playoffs. That's why it's so much fun to watch.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The man ()
Date: November 17, 2012 09:13AM

As much as we all want competitive region finals, both games will be blowouts.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: again... ()
Date: November 17, 2012 09:36AM

So we all kept hearing how Westfield was going to destroy Chantilly and how CVille was going to carve up Oakton. Neither happened. And now the naysayers think it's a fluke and that Westfield will beat the brakes off of Oakton and SB to Yorktown. Its playoff football people, anything can happen. If anyone saw the first Westfield/Oakton game, 3 or 4 plays killed Oakton. They have really changed their look around and momentum is on their side. Not saying they are going to win, but saying it will be more competitive than people think. Be ready to eat crow instead of turkey for Thanksgiving.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: November 17, 2012 09:43AM

Westfield fan here. The NR Championship game will be a good one. Nobody at Westfield is sleeping easy on Oakton, or for that matter, any Concorde opponent. All these teams are good and all of them can win anytime. Westfield game last night was odd. It was 34-7 going into the 4th and Westfield was in complete control. But Chantilly kept coming and the Westfield D, as can happen, let them back in. Romine was hot and cold and threw 3 costly picks (really 4----a 4th int was called back on a defensive penalty). Looking forward to a good game on Championship Saturday.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: BeRealPlease ()
Date: November 17, 2012 09:44AM

Correction, C'Ville missed one FG. Missed another but a penalty was called and they scored there first TD (bonus) and had one Extra Point blocked. So if all were made the game would have been tied....3+3+1 - 7 = 0. BTW, keep underestimating Oakton. Fuel baby, and any biased unrealistic C'Ville fan should relinquish posting here, your season is over, respect the game. Coulda Woulda Shoulda doesn't matter.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 17, 2012 10:18AM

I totally agree that both NR finals should be blowouts.

Wesfield-Oakton
Living in NR now, I'm a big fan of Concorde and am not surprised that 2 Concordes are left after 12 games. No disrespect to Oakton, but W'field should come out sky high and find multiple ways to win as they have all year. W'field's O gets on track, 31-21.

SB-Yorktown
Seeing SB-Broad Run in early season made us believers. SB has power and balance on a par with VA's best D6 teams, including w'field and O.Smith. From what I saw, this is a better team than SB usually sends to states--more speed + passing game. SB will dictate to Yorktown, someting like 42-14.









NRfan Wrote:
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> Both Regional finals will be jokes! Westfield
> will destroy Oakton and SB against Yorktown even
> worse. Centreville dominated the game last night
> BUT missed 3 Field Goals and had 2 TDs called back
> on penalties. Oakton is no better now than they
> were in the regular season.
>
> Yorktown is the most over rated team in the area,
> they beat up on National District teams, but now,
> welcome to the big time. SB will dominate Yorktown
> on defense, Yorktown will not score until SB calls
> the dogs off.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WestfieldDad ()
Date: November 17, 2012 11:29AM

Bulldawg Wrote:
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> Westfield game last night
> was odd. It was 34-7 going into the 4th and
> Westfield was in complete control.

Agreed on the score and control going into the 4th, but I didn't think the score reflected the game.

The strangest play of the game wasn't a play at all, it was Chantilly's gift of a timeout just before the half. Gave Westfield get an extra try to score a TD rather than have to settle for a FG. 4 pts down the timeout drain.

Take back the bad interceptions and the timeout - it's about even going into halftime instead of Westfield up by 20.

> But Chantilly
> kept coming and the Westfield D, as can happen,
> let them back in.

Two things -
Wasn't just the D. Was also the turnover on the kickoff that gave Chantilly the ball. Westfield was set up for an onside & Chantilly kicker did a nice job of placing the kick.

Westfield was in "prevent" defense a lot of the 4th. Chantilly took advantage of it with essentially a 2 minute drill the entire quarter. As long as Chantilly went for 8-10 yard runs/short out patterns they moved, but any time they called a longer pass, Romine had no one to throw to.

> Romine was hot and cold and
> threw 3 costly picks (really 4----a 4th int was
> called back on a defensive penalty).

One of the picks wasn't Romine's fault at all. Bounced off the receiver's hands right to a Westfield defender. The other ones though were really forced...

> Looking
> forward to a good game on Championship Saturday.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bill Renner ()
Date: November 17, 2012 03:40PM

But we lost in the state championship and my system absolutely does not work in North Carolina. Anyone have a D1 QB to send me?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Northern Region football ()
Date: November 17, 2012 08:04PM

BeRealPlease Wrote:
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> Correction, C'Ville missed one FG. Missed another
> but a penalty was called and they scored there
> first TD (bonus) and had one Extra Point blocked.
> So if all were made the game would have been
> tied....3+3+1 - 7 = 0. BTW, keep underestimating
> Oakton. Fuel baby, and any biased unrealistic
> C'Ville fan should relinquish posting here, your
> season is over, respect the game. Coulda Woulda
> Shoulda doesn't matter.


14-13 with the emphasis on 13. If centreville hit even one of those field goals then cville would have won. And two terrible calls, one called back a TD and the other a 25 yard gain. They turned it over both times on the next play. I said cville should have won this game, but they didn't. Congrats to Oakton. Downer has ice in his veins. Playoff football. But the bottom line: cville had chances but didn't take them. Oakton took advantage.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: November 18, 2012 12:53AM

Yorktown isn’t the area’s most overrated team. That award goes to LB, self-explanatory. Look to C’ville for 2nd place. Why? After going to UVA in 2011, the young 2012 team got some wins. Great, but then people started hyping and predicting a return to NR finals. You forgot how C’ville struggled vs. the weak Nat'l teams you say Yorktown dominates. C’ville, at home, had to squeak by Mt. Vernon, 30-22, and needed OT to beat Hayfield 17-16. Likewise, C’Ville beat Concorde outlier Herndon 14-0 and was only up 7-0 in the fourth. Despite these performances, you expected C’Ville to make the NR final. Amazing. Execute, don’t explain-a-cute why you lost. W/o the 2 charity events from WestPo, it was a 6-4 year and that included home games vs. the 4th and 5th place teams in the Nat'l. So C'ville wins the silver medal in the most overrated category.

What about SB-Yorktown? It’s more about how good SB is, not as much about whether Yorktown is overrated. SB has ESPN top 40 players, balance, strength, size, speed, coaching, home field and a tradition of going to states. It waxed everybody, including 2 Concorde teams. Does that make the Concorde a joke, too? Of course not. Yorktown is small and lacks depth. Yet having seen SB beat TJ 42-7 and Yorktown beat TJ 37-7, I can see why the 6 coaches posting on allmetsports.com rank SB at the top and Yorktown around #10. SB’s win yesterday over Langley and Yorktown’s 48-28 beating of SoCo confirms the rankings. BTW, the Soco team Yorktown just crushed came within 28-21 of beating the NR-D6 finalist that eliminated overhyped C’ville.

You say these things are jokes? People want to see if Oakton can hang w/W'field and if Yorktown can put up more fight vs SB than the Concorde or any other team did.


NRfan Wrote:
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> Both Regional finals will be jokes! Westfield
> will destroy Oakton and SB against Yorktown even
> worse. Centreville dominated the game last night
> BUT missed 3 Field Goals and had 2 TDs called back
> on penalties. Oakton is no better now than they
> were in the regular season.
>
> Yorktown is the most over rated team in the area,
> they beat up on National District teams, but now,
> welcome to the big time. SB will dominate Yorktown
> on defense, Yorktown will not score until SB calls
> the dogs off.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Why.. ()
Date: November 18, 2012 03:09AM

Why do people on this board constantly say, "Well if this and this didn't happen, then actually it was a good game", or "If we just woulda done this instead of that, we would have won." The fact of the matter is that those plays did happen, those play calls, interceptions, field goal attempts, and everything that occurred did so for a reason. It happened because it's a direct reflection of the team, stop wasting your time trying to explain why it's not.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Centreville isn't that overrated ()
Date: November 18, 2012 04:14PM

But Centreville beat Chantilly and Oakton (about a week or two ago) though, and Chantilly had very close games with Westfield. So, Centreville isn't overrated as they seem. As for Braddock, you have a point though. However, next year they'll much better than they were this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 18, 2012 04:28PM

GridIron1 Wrote:
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> Look to C’ville for 2nd place. ... You forgot how C’ville
> struggled vs. the weak Nat'l teams you say
> Yorktown dominates. C’ville, at home, had to
> squeak by Mt. Vernon, 30-22, and needed OT to beat
> Hayfield 17-16. Likewise, C’Ville beat Concorde
> outlier Herndon 14-0 and was only up 7-0 in the
> fourth. Despite these performances, you expected
> C’Ville to make the NR final. Amazing. Execute,
> don’t explain-a-cute why you lost. W/o the 2
> charity events from WestPo, it was a 6-4 year and
> that included home games vs. the 4th and 5th place
> teams in the Nat'l. So C'ville wins the silver
> medal in the most overrated category.

You make an excellent case in hindsight - but I was seeing them put up 45 against Chantilly and 49 against Oakton late in the season and I thought they were getting it together. I was at the regular season Oakton-Centreville game - that second half was total beat-down by Centreville. But I suppose it could be argued they really lost that game against Hayfield.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/18/2012 04:29PM by newgatedenizen.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: November 18, 2012 06:08PM

newgatedenizen:

Yeah, I'm with you about how C'ville looked vs. 'Tilly after being down 17-0 early. They came back strong in the second half on both sides of the ball. In the end, this year is another reminder that it's tough to get out the NR.

Will be routing for the underdogs on Fri and Sat.


------------

newgatedenizen wrote:
but
You make an excellent case in hindsight - but I was seeing them put up 45 against Chantilly and 49 against Oakton late in the season and I thought they were getting it together. I was at the regular season Oakton-Centreville game - that second half was total beat-down by Centreville. But I suppose it could be argued they really lost that game against Hayfield.


------------------------------------------------------
> GridIron1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Look to C’ville for 2nd place. ... You forgot
> how C’ville
> > struggled vs. the weak Nat'l teams you say
> > Yorktown dominates. C’ville, at home, had to
> > squeak by Mt. Vernon, 30-22, and needed OT to
> beat
> > Hayfield 17-16. Likewise, C’Ville beat
> Concorde
> > outlier Herndon 14-0 and was only up 7-0 in the
> > fourth. Despite these performances, you
> expected
> > C’Ville to make the NR final. Amazing.
> Execute,
> > don’t explain-a-cute why you lost. W/o the 2
> > charity events from WestPo, it was a 6-4 year
> and
> > that included home games vs. the 4th and 5th
> place
> > teams in the Nat'l. So C'ville wins the silver
> > medal in the most overrated category.
>
>

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NRFan ()
Date: November 18, 2012 06:37PM

The heck with the underdogs, lets root for the B-U-L-L-D-O-G-S!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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NR finals
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 18, 2012 07:06PM

Was thinking about next round and here is what came to mind. What do you all think?

D6, Wesfield-Oakton: Living in NR now, it's easy to understand why 2 Concordes are left after 12 games. No disrespect to Oakton, but W'field will come out sky high in a quest to repeat. The O will click. W'field, 31-21.

D5, SB-Yorktown: The SB-Broad Run game made me believe. SB has power and balance equal to VA's best D6s, including O.Smith. This is a better team than SB usually sends to states--more speed + passing. SB will dictate to a Yorktown team that in any other year would probably advance, 42-14.

Elsewhere D6:
NWR: Hylton will repeat reg season 35-16W over CForge, but congrats to CForge for beating SJ last week.
CR: Bird's tough win over Hermy gets it ready to edge Varina.
ER: Battle of unbeatens is O.Smith's 9th straight reg final. Does it have enough left (after tough W v. Salem) to handle Ocean Lakes?

Elsewhere D5:
NWR: N. Stafford's only L was 7-0 to D6NWR finalist CForge. They will repeat reg season 3TD win over Mtn View. Wants to avoid repeat 1pt loss to Phoebus.
CR: Battle of 3-loss teams but Hanover played D6 finalist Varina to 21-20 and should nip Hopewell.
ER: Unbeatens. Lake Taylor could surprise Phoebus, which just had to play tough Hampton in 2 of its last 3 games.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 18, 2012 07:15PM

I got your back, NR Fan, and am cheering W'field all the way. They give NR the best chance vs. teams left such as Bird (CR) and O.Smith and Ocean Lakes (ER). Same thing for SB in D5. Not sure Oakton or Yorktown can win 2 games @ states despite Oakton's solid play the last 2 weeks and Yorktown's speed. Both have had good years but I'm talking about who can win 3 more games, 1 at a time of course!


NRFan Wrote:
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> The heck with the underdogs, lets root for the
> B-U-L-L-D-O-G-S!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: LB Cry Baby ()
Date: November 19, 2012 11:39AM

Did you have fun watching "Centerville Smash Oakton". Oh yea, I guess that didn't happen.

LB Parent Wrote:
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> It was a tough loss, but LB got outcoached and
> outplayed. It will be fun to watch Centreville
> smash Oakton. I bet they beat them by 30.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 20, 2012 08:31AM

Having seen Oakton squeak by SoCo, I'm changing my prediction for the NR-D5 final. Below I posted that it SB would blowout Yorktown but not anymore. See the clip. Yorktown blew away SoCo. Yorktown had leads of 34-7 and 41-14 before it ended 48-28. Now, I'm thinking that Friday's game will be something like 35-21 or 35-28 SB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAVPDV6grbg







EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> I totally agree that both NR finals should be
> blowouts.
>
> Wesfield-Oakton
> Living in NR now, I'm a big fan of Concorde and am
> not surprised that 2 Concordes are left after 12
> games. No disrespect to Oakton, but W'field should
> come out sky high and find multiple ways to win as
> they have all year. W'field's O gets on track,
> 31-21.
>
> SB-Yorktown
> Seeing SB-Broad Run in early season made us
> believers. SB has power and balance on a par with
> VA's best D6 teams, including w'field and O.Smith.
> From what I saw, this is a better team than SB
> usually sends to states--more speed + passing
> game. SB will dictate to Yorktown, someting like
> 42-14.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> NRfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Both Regional finals will be jokes! Westfield
> > will destroy Oakton and SB against Yorktown
> even
> > worse. Centreville dominated the game last
> night
> > BUT missed 3 Field Goals and had 2 TDs called
> back
> > on penalties. Oakton is no better now than they
> > were in the regular season.
> >
> > Yorktown is the most over rated team in the
> area,
> > they beat up on National District teams, but
> now,
> > welcome to the big time. SB will dominate
> Yorktown
> > on defense, Yorktown will not score until SB
> calls
> > the dogs off.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: November 20, 2012 09:25AM

Both finals could be closer than we think. Oakton's D has given up 13 pts in each of the past 2 games. If they come to play Fri, then it could be anybody's game. We just saw what can happen if Downer has a chance late. As for D5, looking at the clip you posted, Yorktown is better than I thought on both sides of the ball. Now looking at their sched, they beat Hayfield worse than C'Ville did, they beat Herndon as bad as anybody did, they beat TJ 37-7 while SB beat TJ 42-7 and they beat SoCo much worse than Oakton did.

EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> Having seen Oakton squeak by SoCo, I'm changing my
> prediction for the NR-D5 final. Below I posted
> that it SB would blowout Yorktown but not
> anymore. See the clip. Yorktown blew away SoCo.
> Yorktown had leads of 34-7 and 41-14 before it
> ended 48-28. Now, I'm thinking that Friday's game
> will be something like 35-21 or 35-28 SB.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAVPDV6grbg
>
> > EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I totally agree that both NR finals should be
> > blowouts.
> >
> > Wesfield-Oakton
> > Living in NR now, I'm a big fan of Concorde and
> am
> > not surprised that 2 Concordes are left after
> 12
> > games. No disrespect to Oakton, but W'field
> should
> > come out sky high and find multiple ways to win
> as
> > they have all year. W'field's O gets on track,
> > 31-21.
> >
> > SB-Yorktown
> > Seeing SB-Broad Run in early season made us
> > believers. SB has power and balance on a par
> with
> > VA's best D6 teams, including w'field and
> O.Smith.
> > From what I saw, this is a better team than SB
> > usually sends to states--more speed + passing
> > game. SB will dictate to Yorktown, someting
> like
> > 42-14.
> >
> >
> > NRfan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Both Regional finals will be jokes!
> Westfield
> > > will destroy Oakton and SB against Yorktown
> > even
> > > worse. Centreville dominated the game last
> > night
> > > BUT missed 3 Field Goals and had 2 TDs called
> > back
> > > on penalties. Oakton is no better now than
> they
> > > were in the regular season.
> > >
> > > Yorktown is the most over rated team in the
> > area,
> > > they beat up on National District teams, but
> > now,
> > > welcome to the big time. SB will dominate
> > Yorktown
> > > on defense, Yorktown will not score until SB
> > calls
> > > the dogs off.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: LB Parent ()
Date: November 20, 2012 09:29AM

I'll admit that Centreville got outplayed and outcoached by Oakton, but Westfield is going to smash Oakton by 30.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: really...talent ()
Date: November 20, 2012 10:00AM

Oakton - 34
Westfield - 21

Yorktown - 17
Stonebridge - 35

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KeepitReal ()
Date: November 20, 2012 10:06AM

Yorktown will not be able to get those runs to the outside on SB's D. I do though think that Yorktown can pass on them if they roll out their QB. SB's D is much better than Yorktown has faced. Yorktown better not run the 3-4 D. Patrick O'Conner ran for 197 against them in the first round. TJ had several passes dropped from receivers wide open. I would like to see a good game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: November 20, 2012 11:16AM

Agree w/KeepitReal. Nobody has moved the ball on SB and Yorktown will have trouble, too. If Burns is good, then Yorktown will have trouble on D, too. Nobody has come close to SB and Yorktown is next. Was at the TJ game and saw that Yorktown plays with heart, but lacks size, depth and special teams. TJ got good field position and you can't do that w/SB. Saw the WaPo piece about Yorktown but one player featured didn't play v. TJ then ran over SoCo. So maybe they and Oakton have enough to keep the games close.
KeepitReal Wrote:
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> Yorktown will not be able to get those runs to the
> outside on SB's D. I do though think that
> Yorktown can pass on them if they roll out their
> QB. SB's D is much better than Yorktown has
> faced. Yorktown better not run the 3-4 D.
> Patrick O'Conner ran for 197 against them in the
> first round. TJ had several passes dropped from
> receivers wide open. I would like to see a good
> game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: what happened??? ()
Date: November 21, 2012 08:21AM

Can someone tell me what happened to McLean this year, didn't get to see any games because of I was away at school and people tell me mixed things. Played there 2 years ago and it seemed we were on the way up and we had a good senior year with a good freshman and JV squads. I know Coach Patrick got a new job and all, but looking at some of the scores of the games it seems we should have done better. Were guys injured or something?

Can someone tell me the times of the games this week too and where they are at?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: November 21, 2012 03:50PM

Stonebridge vs. Yorktown Friday at 1:30 PM @ Stonebridge

Westfield vs. Oakton Saturday at 1:30 PM @ Westfield

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: November 21, 2012 05:20PM

Wapo just posted a story about the NR finals. Amazing that SB has held 8 teams to 1 TD or less. Props to all 4 teams--W'field and Yorktown for making it a 2nd staight year, SB for making it an incredibl 7th time in 8 years and Oakton for pulling 2 upsets to make it.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/highschools/northern-region-football-finals-yorktown-stone-bridge-oakton-westfield-vie-for-state-berths/2012/11/21/7a1851ce-33f9-11e2-9cfa-e41bac906cc9_story.html




Bulldawg Wrote:
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> Stonebridge vs. Yorktown Friday at 1:30 PM @
> Stonebridge
>
> Westfield vs. Oakton Saturday at 1:30 PM @
> Westfield

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Surprising Score ()
Date: November 23, 2012 05:44PM

Stone Bridge defeated Yorktown 69-50.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: D-fence ()
Date: November 23, 2012 05:57PM

Stone Bridge will always prove, even when it's 69-50, that defense wins championships.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 23, 2012 06:05PM

Just got back from a great shooout in Ashburn. SB was down 29-28 in the 3rd after Yorktown blocked a 2 point PAT attempt but then went on a tear. Based on what I saw today, SB will push around CR champ next week and handle the ER-NWR winner @ UVA. Seriously great line play on O and D from SB. Props to Yorktown; by half, they'd scored more on SB than anybody had all year. SB too strong.



Surprising Score Wrote:
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> Stone Bridge defeated Yorktown 69-50.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: November 23, 2012 06:56PM

Yes, SB-Yorktown 69-50 was a great--big scoring and momentum swings. Reminded me of the '07 W'field--W. Springfield NR final when Glennon and Rehner were the QB: 58-34. W'field went onto title that year with all kinds of players on that team. Today, SB showed it had plenty of good players, too. Its D played great in the 2nd half and that's what it took to beat a Yorktown team that can score off anybody. SB all the way this year.

EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> Just got back from a great shooout in Ashburn. SB
> was down 29-28 in the 3rd after Yorktown blocked a
> 2 point PAT attempt but then went on a tear. Based
> on what I saw today, SB will push around CR champ
> next week and handle the ER-NWR winner @ UVA.
> Seriously great line play on O and D from SB.
> Props to Yorktown; by half, they'd scored more on
> SB than anybody had all year. SB too strong.
>
>
>
> Surprising Score Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Stone Bridge defeated Yorktown 69-50.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: November 23, 2012 06:57PM

FootballSEC1 Wrote:
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> Yes, SB-Yorktown 69-50 was a great--big scoring
> and momentum swings. Reminded me of the '07
> W'field--W. Springfield NR final when Glennon and
> Rehner were the QB: 58-34. W'field went onto title
> that year with all kinds of players on that team.
> Today, SB showed it had plenty of good players,
> too. Its D played great in the 2nd half and that's
> what it took to beat a Yorktown team that can
> score off anybody. SB all the way this year.
>
>
> EasternVaFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just got back from a great shooout in Ashburn.
> SB
> > was down 29-28 in the 3rd after Yorktown blocked
> a
> > 2 point PAT attempt but then went on a tear.
> Based
> > on what I saw today, SB will push around CR
> champ
> > next week and handle the ER-NWR winner @ UVA.
> > Seriously great line play on O and D from SB.
> > Props to Yorktown; by half, they'd scored more
> on
> > SB than anybody had all year. SB too strong.
> >
> >
> >
> > Surprising Score Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Stone Bridge defeated Yorktown 69-50.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: November 23, 2012 07:46PM

SB showed the heart of a champion in its awesome 69-50 W over Yorktown. Bulldogs were down 23-7 in the 2nd and Yorktown was putting up points like nobody has on SB in years. The O, D and specials all contributed big time after SB trailed 29-28 in the 3rd and that is why SB is the NR champ. Big time comeback!!!!

FootballSEC1 Wrote:
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> FootballSEC1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, SB-Yorktown 69-50 was a great--big scoring
> > and momentum swings. Reminded me of the '07
> > W'field--W. Springfield NR final when Glennon
> and
> > Rehner were the QB: 58-34. W'field went onto
> title
> > that year with all kinds of players on that
> team.
> > Today, SB showed it had plenty of good players,
> > too. Its D played great in the 2nd half and
> that's
> > what it took to beat a Yorktown team that can
> > score off anybody. SB all the way this year.
>
> >
> >
> > EasternVaFan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Just got back from a great shooout in
> Ashburn.
> > SB
> > > was down 29-28 in the 3rd after Yorktown
> blocked
> > a
> > > 2 point PAT attempt but then went on a tear.
> > Based
> > > on what I saw today, SB will push around CR
> > champ
> > > next week and handle the ER-NWR winner @ UVA.
> > > Seriously great line play on O and D from SB.
> > > Props to Yorktown; by half, they'd scored
> more
> > on
> > > SB than anybody had all year. SB too strong.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Surprising Score Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Stone Bridge defeated Yorktown 69-50.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KeepitReal ()
Date: November 23, 2012 08:00PM

There is no way SB could beat WF. The proof is in this game. Great job by Yorktown to make it a game. I told everyone that they would keep it close throughout the game. Cudos to SB for staying strong and not giving up and finishing the game. They should do well in the next rounds

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: new D5 state champ this year ()
Date: November 23, 2012 10:31PM

Meanwhile in the 757....

Lake Taylor 54
Phoebus 0

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Beth ()
Date: November 23, 2012 10:46PM

Keepitreal you are clueless. SB gave the first qrtr away with 4 turnovers in 5 possessions then scored 55straight points. Put in 2nd team on both sides of the ball and gave up 21 points. This game was not as close as the score shows.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WHAT? ()
Date: November 23, 2012 11:28PM

Phoebus Got CRUSHED??? WOW! They didn't even score. This Lake Taylor must be forreal. Good luck Stone bridge.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SB Fan2 ()
Date: November 24, 2012 01:12AM

Agree w/Keep It Real. Yorktown was still up 29-28 in the 3rd quarter so the game was close until then. Also, we didn't give away the 1st quarter. We actually scored first and led 7-0 so give us credit for that game-opening drive. Yorktown answered with its own drive but was only up 10-7 after the first. But yeah they moved the ball every time we turned it over and that's how they built a 23 pt lead. They were better than anbody else we've played this year so far and that's what makes the comeback that much sweeter.


Beth Wrote:
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> Keepitreal you are clueless. SB gave the first
> qrtr away with 4 turnovers in 5 possessions then
> scored 55straight points. Put in 2nd team on both
> sides of the ball and gave up 21 points. This
> game was not as close as the score shows.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 24, 2012 01:23AM

Link below to story behind Lake Taylor 54, Phoebus 0. Pittman had 23 yds in 17 attempts. Enough said. Today belongs to SB and I'm routing for them all the way.


http://www.dailypress.com/sports/highschool/breaking/dp-spt-phoebus-lt-gamer-1124-20121123,0,2700514.story


WHAT? Wrote:
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> Phoebus Got CRUSHED??? WOW! They didn't even
> score. This Lake Taylor must be forreal. Good luck
> Stone bridge.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: D5 ()
Date: November 24, 2012 09:34AM

WHAT? Wrote:
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> Phoebus Got CRUSHED??? WOW! They didn't even
> score. This Lake Taylor must be forreal. Good luck
> Stone bridge.


So does the Phoebus loss open the door for a Stonebridge state title or is Lake Taylor out to prove its win was no mere fluke?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 24, 2012 10:43AM

Ok, it's SB v. Hanover, which beat Hopewell 35-7 last night. Earlier in the playoffs, Hanover avenged 1 of its 3 losses by beating Lee Davis. Based on yesterday's game in Ashburn, I gotta believe that SB will handle Hanover, and no disrespect meant. SB's lines will wear them down and the Bulldogs will win big on the road and make it to UVA.

Yhttp://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/high-school/hanover/hanover-stymies-hopewell/article_af115b4c-35f6-11e2-bfe8-0019bb30f31a.html


D5 Wrote:
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> WHAT? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Phoebus Got CRUSHED??? WOW! They didn't even
> > score. This Lake Taylor must be forreal. Good
> luck
> > Stone bridge.
>
>
> So does the Phoebus loss open the door for a
> Stonebridge state title or is Lake Taylor out to
> prove its win was no mere fluke?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: WHS ()
Date: November 24, 2012 11:52AM

Does anyone know if the W'field/oakton game is going to be broadcast on TV?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KeepitReal ()
Date: November 24, 2012 03:57PM

Oak 23-16 for the upset. After seeing them play LB, I could see their momentum coming. Great set of coaches from Oak. Was a great season for WF. I do although think WF would have a better chance in the playoffs. Who knows maybe Oakton can keep it going.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: fanball ()
Date: November 24, 2012 04:09PM

Congrats to Oakton! Honestly happy to see Westfield lose twice in a row in NR finals at home. Goes to show having 3000 students to draw from is not everything - still have to play the most important game and win. Welcome to the real world Bulldogs....

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR fan is an idiot ()
Date: November 24, 2012 04:25PM

NRfan Wrote:
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> Both Regional finals will be jokes! Westfield
> will destroy Oakton and SB against Yorktown even
> worse. Centreville dominated the game last night
> BUT missed 3 Field Goals and had 2 TDs called back
> on penalties. Oakton is no better now than they
> were in the regular season.
>
> Yorktown is the most over rated team in the area,
> they beat up on National District teams, but now,
> welcome to the big time. SB will dominate Yorktown
> on defense, Yorktown will not score until SB calls
> the dogs off.


This just shows you know absolutely nothing about football. Both games were not jokes, in fact they were both unbelievable games. I guess winning the Northern Region D-6 means you are no good according to you. What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the game even started.

Please do us all a favor and never even try to comment or give state what is going to happen in a football game ever again, because you clearly are an idiot and have no clue what you are talking about.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: LB Parent again shows they are.. ()
Date: November 24, 2012 04:30PM

LB Parent Wrote:
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> I'll admit that Centreville got outplayed and
> outcoached by Oakton, but Westfield is going to
> smash Oakton by 30.


Again you too are an idiot. Don't even try to comment on football ever again. Hope turkey was good at the Henderson household. I know it was served cold along with the side plate of crow you had to eat.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: footballs ()
Date: November 24, 2012 04:30PM

good to see a spread team win the region again.
Westfield having issues scoring points late in November of late While the Oakton QB showed how you throw downfield to slot WR's and run Zone reads to perfection. Way too good for Westfield to decipher.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: fanball ()
Date: November 24, 2012 04:53PM

Even better to see Westfield lose. I have seen a lot of the teams in the NR over the past few years and Westfield fans by far seem to think they are ENTITLED to win. Two choke jobs in two years, time to eat some crow with that leftover turkey.....

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: RydellRoad ()
Date: November 24, 2012 05:17PM

Westfield has 2791 students. Oakton has 2185. Robinson 2685. Chantilly 2631. Centreville 2381. Herndon 2171. Hardly such a difference to be so bitter.

Their 2 losses in the last 2 NR region finals can be largely attributed to 2 star athletes. Ken Ekanam and Kyle Downer. Sometimes you need the true superstar to push you over the edge. And while Westfield has had good teams they haven't had the stars like on past teams that went far e.g. Royal, Glennon's, Royster.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: fanball ()
Date: November 24, 2012 05:25PM

Not bitter, just happy Westfield lost!!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Good Job Oakton ()
Date: November 24, 2012 05:46PM

Hats off to the oakton cougars! In all three games of the playoff games they were supposed to lose. First, Lake Braddock, then Centreville and now Westfield. Everybody including myself had doubts they would beat these teams in the playoffs. Great Job Oakton. Downer is an amazing player.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: bulldawg ()
Date: November 24, 2012 06:06PM

Congrats to Oakton on a solid win today. They were the better team on the field.

Congrats to Westfield on a fantastic season and fighting to the very end. Sorry to see it end, but anyone who thought this team would go 12-1 and play for the NR Championship after graduating 40 seniors and 20 starters is kidding you. Great season and disappointing end. They won with class all year, and today just wasn't their day.

Go Oakton, and represent the Concorde well in the State playoffs. We will be cheering for you.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SB Fan2 ()
Date: November 24, 2012 06:58PM

Def props to the four teams that made NR finals: Oakton, W'field, SB, and Yorktown. Both games were memorable in their own right. The momentum swings yesterday were insane and nobody expected SB to give up 29 points in the first half and be down so much. Today, the intensity and D was so typical Concorde. No disrespect to any team, but it's not surprising that the past two years all four D6 finalists came from Concorde.



bulldawg Wrote:
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> Congrats to Oakton on a solid win today. They
> were the better team on the field.
>
> Congrats to Westfield on a fantastic season and
> fighting to the very end. Sorry to see it end,
> but anyone who thought this team would go 12-1 and
> play for the NR Championship after graduating 40
> seniors and 20 starters is kidding you. Great
> season and disappointing end. They won with class
> all year, and today just wasn't their day.
>
> Go Oakton, and represent the Concorde well in the
> State playoffs. We will be cheering for you.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm ()
Date: November 24, 2012 07:02PM

What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the game even started.

Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times to to start the second half and scored all 5 times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored a few more times against a full JV squad to get to 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons. They had the worst defense SB played all year and that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown could not stop them and guess what an overrated team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you are Wrong

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SB Fan2 ()
Date: November 24, 2012 07:21PM

What game did you watch? We were down 29-7 in the 2nd quarter and Yorktown forced two of those turnovers with hits and then moved the ball on us after every TO to score. You have to give credit. And we trailed yesterday 29-28 in the 3rd quarter--first time this year. Nobody else scored more than 27 on us and Yorktown did that by half. We got tested and finally answered in the 2nd half As for the D, you don't know what you're talking about; SB gave us 7 to TJ; so did Yorktown; SB gave up 14 to Langley in the playoff game; Yorktown gave up 14 to Langley, too. Yorktown didnt' have enough athletes, played theirs both ways and ran out of gas when we were amping up big-time. They are better than any other D5 in NR except for us. No team, not even a Concorde, was beating us in the third quarter. So they were NOT overrated. If they were overrated, they would have quit after we scored on the first possession. Did you see how they responded and on our field?




Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
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> What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the
> dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> game even started.
>
> Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB
> had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times
> to to start the second half and scored all 5
> times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their
> stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored
> a few more times against a full JV squad to get to
> 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> They had the worst defense SB played all year and
> that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see
> if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown
> could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you
> are Wrong

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: November 24, 2012 07:39PM

Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
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> What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the
> dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> game even started.
>
> Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB
> had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times
> to to start the second half and scored all 5
> times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their
> stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored
> a few more times against a full JV squad to get to
> 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> They had the worst defense SB played all year and
> that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see
> if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown
> could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you
> are Wrong


"Yorktown was very overrated?" You must be kidding. They are the only team, not SB, to make the D5 final in 2010 and 2012. Yesterday, they went on the road and up 4 TDs in the first half alone. They moved the ball on SB at will in the 1st half and were still up by 1 after blocking a 2PAT try in the 2nd half. Nobody has played SB like that this year. I was at the game and saw a great comeback by a great team. Everybody knew that Yorktown is thin. You could see that when the QB went out for part of the 2nd half and when lost #8 who caused a fumble early. You don't know "jack" about FB if you still claiim that that team is "very overrated." Again, they are the only D5 to make the NR final in both 2011 and 2011. You can't fake that.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FootballSEC1 ()
Date: November 24, 2012 07:48PM

I meant to post that Yorktown is the only team to make the D5 NR final in both 2011 and 2012. It's tough to fake that. They clearly are no SB as we saw yesterday, but they're the 2nd best D5 in NR. They beat 5 of the 7 D5 playoff teams and didn't get a chance to play Madison. Why? SoCo beat Madison in the first round and then got smoked by Yorktown 48-28 in round 2. Madison was 2nd place team in Liberty and SoCo was 2nd to LB in the Patriot. Yorktown gave Soco a beating that up-and-down D6 champ Oakton only beat them 28-21.

As for W'field, what's all the hating about, people? They are 24-2 over 2 years and made the NR final in both 2012 and 2011. Given how tough the Concorde is, and how young W'field is, that's pretty good FB. Again, congrats to Oakton.



FootballSEC1 Wrote:
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> Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> > must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> > Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called
> the
> > dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> > game even started.
> >
> > Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half
> SB
> > had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> > and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5
> times
> > to to start the second half and scored all 5
> > times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> > Yorktown even without a chance to win kept
> their
> > stud Stewart in and entire first teams and
> scored
> > a few more times against a full JV squad to get
> to
> > 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> > They had the worst defense SB played all year
> and
> > that alone makes them overrated it was easy to
> see
> > if SB stopped giving the ball away that
> Yorktown
> > could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> > team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and
> you
> > are Wrong
>
>
> "Yorktown was very overrated?" You must be
> kidding. They are the only team, not SB, to make
> the D5 final in 2010 and 2012. Yesterday, they
> went on the road and up 4 TDs in the first half
> alone. They moved the ball on SB at will in the
> 1st half and were still up by 1 after blocking a
> 2PAT try in the 2nd half. Nobody has played SB
> like that this year. I was at the game and saw a
> great comeback by a great team. Everybody knew
> that Yorktown is thin. You could see that when the
> QB went out for part of the 2nd half and when lost
> #8 who caused a fumble early. You don't know
> "jack" about FB if you still claiim that that team
> is "very overrated." Again, they are the only D5
> to make the NR final in both 2011 and 2011. You
> can't fake that.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 24, 2012 08:02PM

Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
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> What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the
> dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> game even started.
>
> Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB
> had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times
> to to start the second half and scored all 5
> times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their
> stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored
> a few more times against a full JV squad to get to
> 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> They had the worst defense SB played all year and
> that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see
> if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown
> could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you
> are Wrong

Your logic is lame. If we follow it, then we have to conclude that SB has been one of the most overrated D5 teams in VA over the past 10 years. How many times has SB come to states and gotten handled? That would be every year except for last year (when they got waxed in the 1st round by SoCo) and in 2007, the only year they won a title. Every other year, people talk all year about how good SB is--and then SB gets to states and can't win. Under your logic as applied to Yorktown, then SB has been overrated, too. So use your head. You know SB is a great program and so is W'field. W'field's loss today doesn't make them overrated and neither did Yorktown's loss on Fri. SB was a heavy favorite (rivals.com, SB -14) and they cameback and won big but they got severely tested for 3 quarters. Yesterday, Phoebus got homed 54-0. Does anybody seriously want to argue that they can't play, either?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR fan is an idiot ()
Date: November 24, 2012 08:16PM

Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
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> What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the
> dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> game even started.
>
> Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB
> had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times
> to to start the second half and scored all 5
> times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their
> stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored
> a few more times against a full JV squad to get to
> 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> They had the worst defense SB played all year and
> that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see
> if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown
> could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you
> are Wrong


First off, hats off to Westfield and SB fans on here because both of them are giving credit where credit is due and accepting the games as they were, which is competitive and the right team won. Westfield HS were great hosts and I love that stadium and how easily it runs on game day, and honestly I was never routing against Westfield, but against the Oakton haters such as NRfan and LB parent who made excuses and arguments that Oakton and Yorktown are either overrated or got lucky somehow. The only way to prove these arguments wrong is to play the game and both did and proved them wrong by a wide margin.

In NRfans exact words he stated that Yorktown wouldn't even score a point unless Thompson called the dogs off....didn't happen by any means and in fact Yorktown made a couple of SB coaches and fans soil themselves I bet. He then again stated that Oakton would get crushed by 30 points.....didn't happen. So defend him if you want, but let it be known that you too are an idiot for still believing your owns words and thought processes. I hope that's what you use to get ahead in life, because that means more advancement for others who actually use their noggen. please retort back because I am dying for your next intelligent response. My advice to you would to go get a tattoo on your chest of your family motto "shoulda, coulda, woulda".

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Jumbo jimbo ()
Date: November 24, 2012 08:16PM

I just want to know who won the westfield vs oakton game and what was the score?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 24, 2012 08:52PM

Awesome response, dude, seriously. I saw a lot of talent and good play on the field today and yesterday. Both games surprised some people and sometimes it's hard to admit that our predictions aren't right. What's easy to get right is to say "hey, that game surprised me" and not hate on the teams that did the surprising. I also saw a lot of W'field people today giving congratulations to Cougar fans and the same yesterday at SB. Four good fan bases and four good teams and I hope both Oakton and SB do well at states.



NR fan is an idiot Wrote:
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> Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> > must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> > Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called
> the
> > dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> > game even started.
> >
> > Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half
> SB
> > had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> > and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5
> times
> > to to start the second half and scored all 5
> > times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> > Yorktown even without a chance to win kept
> their
> > stud Stewart in and entire first teams and
> scored
> > a few more times against a full JV squad to get
> to
> > 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> > They had the worst defense SB played all year
> and
> > that alone makes them overrated it was easy to
> see
> > if SB stopped giving the ball away that
> Yorktown
> > could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> > team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and
> you
> > are Wrong
>
>
> First off, hats off to Westfield and SB fans on
> here because both of them are giving credit where
> credit is due and accepting the games as they
> were, which is competitive and the right team won.
> Westfield HS were great hosts and I love that
> stadium and how easily it runs on game day, and
> honestly I was never routing against Westfield,
> but against the Oakton haters such as NRfan and LB
> parent who made excuses and arguments that Oakton
> and Yorktown are either overrated or got lucky
> somehow. The only way to prove these arguments
> wrong is to play the game and both did and proved
> them wrong by a wide margin.
>
> In NRfans exact words he stated that Yorktown
> wouldn't even score a point unless Thompson called
> the dogs off....didn't happen by any means and in
> fact Yorktown made a couple of SB coaches and fans
> soil themselves I bet. He then again stated that
> Oakton would get crushed by 30 points.....didn't
> happen. So defend him if you want, but let it be
> known that you too are an idiot for still
> believing your owns words and thought processes.
> I hope that's what you use to get ahead in life,
> because that means more advancement for others who
> actually use their noggen. please retort back
> because I am dying for your next intelligent
> response. My advice to you would to go get a
> tattoo on your chest of your family motto
> "shoulda, coulda, woulda".

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 24, 2012 09:49PM

Beth Wrote:
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> Keepitreal you are clueless. SB gave the first
> qrtr away with 4 turnovers in 5 possessions then
> scored 55straight points. Put in 2nd team on both
> sides of the ball and gave up 21 points. This
> game was not as close as the score shows.


It's you, Beth, who are clueless. What game did you watch on Fri? Yorktown FORCED most of those 5 turnovers you describe and outhustled SB to the ball. Not only that, they scored off long plays every time after a TO, the shortest being a 14-yard run. Your two TDs in the fourth quarter came from starters--your starting QB through a 90 yard TD to Yardsborough and Goldring ran back a kickoff late in the game to score. So don't even say that the varsity starters weren't playing key roles in the 4th. They did and if you ahd a clue you also would have noticed that Yorktown was subbing in the 3rd bc its QB and one LB both got hurt. They obviously had no depth or size and SB put on the best 3rd quarter I think I've ever seen-but your team was trailing in that quarter so don't make up stuff after the fact.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SB Fan2 ()
Date: November 24, 2012 10:37PM

Reply to NR Fan is an idiot comm Wrote:
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> What is your excuse now for Westfield? Yorktown
> must be overrated, I mean I guess Thompson let
> Yorktown hang 50 on them. Looks like he called the
> dogs off at their Thanksgiving meal before the
> game even started.
>
> Yes Yorktown was very overrated in first half SB
> had the ball 7 times and turned it over 4 times
> and scored 3 times they then had the ball 5 times
> to to start the second half and scored all 5
> times. Then SB truly called the dogs off and
> Yorktown even without a chance to win kept their
> stud Stewart in and entire first teams and scored
> a few more times against a full JV squad to get to
> 50. While Yorktown had some offensive weapons.
> They had the worst defense SB played all year and
> that alone makes them overrated it was easy to see
> if SB stopped giving the ball away that Yorktown
> could not stop them and guess what an overrated
> team did not stop them. NR Fan was right and you
> are Wrong


What game did you watch? Yorktown forced those turnovers so give credit for that and for moving the ball on us and scoring after every one of them. We trailed yesterday 29-28 in the 3rd quarter--first time this year. Nobody else scored more than 27 on us and Yorktown did that by half. We got tested and finally answered in the 2nd half As for the D, you don't know what you're talking about; Yorktown forced TOs and beat us to the ball on all four out of four fumbles. Also, re points, we gave up 7 to TJ; so did Yorktown; we gave up 14 to Langley in the playoffs; Yorktown gave up 14 to Langley, too. Yorktown didnt' have enough athletes, played players both ways and ran out of gas when we were amping up big-time. They are better than any other D5 in NR except for us. No team, not even a Concorde, was beating us in the third quarter. So they were NOT overrated. If they were overrated, they would have quit after we scored on the first possession. Did you see how they responded and on our field?And we still were using Burns, Yardborough and Goldring to score our 2 TDs in the fourth.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SB Fan2 ()
Date: November 24, 2012 10:40PM

Good Job Oakton Wrote:
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> Hats off to the oakton cougars! In all three games
> of the playoff games they were supposed to lose.
> First, Lake Braddock, then Centreville and now
> Westfield. Everybody including myself had doubts
> they would beat these teams in the playoffs. Great
> Job Oakton. Downer is an amazing player.


Def good job by Oakton in all 3 playoff games. Gotta respect what they did and wish them the best at states. W'field had a great year with a young team but the big story this year is how Oakton got it done when it counted.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: To all those who think Yorktown ()
Date: November 25, 2012 12:16AM

was a good TEAM.........The SB Yorktown game was at best a strange game those who want to give props to Yorktown don't know anything about football and who was a strong team and who wasn't including a fairly knowledgeable fan in easternva who just babbled nonsense at me. I stand by all my logic Yorktown's D sucked and SB shouda won, couda won and did win. By the way if you could use your noogin the term is shoudo wouda couda. To the SB fan who feels the need to be gracious - Yes Yorktown made some nice plays to create fumbles when SB was not taking care of the ball the first fumble the SB back did not protect the ball and the defender was beat and reached out and manged to hit the ball good effort but a bit of luck involved and poor play from the runner. Second fumble not one SB fan can say what happened it was on the far side of the field. Third fumble was a pile in the middle of the field again who knows if it was created by Yorktown or poor ball carrying by SB interception was an under thrown ball (but still a spectacular play by Stewart) Rather than argue with you idiots who take things so literal just read this account of the game they got it right and straight from the head coaches mouth "no one soiled themselves"

http://vivaloudoun.blogspot.com/

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR fan is an idiot ()
Date: November 25, 2012 01:07AM

Your answer says it all and yet again proves your intelligence. Intelligence in both football and in the spellings of should, could and would. I guess they don't have L's on planet dumbass. No one here is disputing the fact that SB is the clearcut better team, we are disputing the fact that morons like yourself still continue to live on the fact that Yorktown would not be competitive, they couldn't handle SB in any facet of the game (please notice the L's in my would and couldn't), and that SB let them have these mistakes. I guess if SB has that much trouble holding onto a ball, then good luck with Lake Taylor if you play them. Nice article by the way, I mean I really expect any coach to say that he was nervous during a game to a paper who treats him like a God. I can't wait for others to chime in on your stupidity and still await one person who stands behind you. Better think of another screen name to support your beliefs now. I would do a spell check first though as you have been tagged on your grammatical errors and the red flag is out on you.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SB Fan2 ()
Date: November 25, 2012 09:07AM

To all those who think Yorktown Wrote:
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> was a good TEAM.........The SB Yorktown game was
> at best a strange game those who want to give
> props to Yorktown don't know anything about
> football and who was a strong team and who wasn't
> including a fairly knowledgeable fan in easternva
> who just babbled nonsense at me. I stand by all my
> logic Yorktown's D sucked and SB shouda won, couda
> won and did win. By the way if you could use your
> noogin the term is shoudo wouda couda. To the SB
> fan who feels the need to be gracious - Yes
> Yorktown made some nice plays to create fumbles
> when SB was not taking care of the ball the first
> fumble the SB back did not protect the ball and
> the defender was beat and reached out and manged
> to hit the ball good effort but a bit of luck
> involved and poor play from the runner. Second
> fumble not one SB fan can say what happened it was
> on the far side of the field. Third fumble was a
> pile in the middle of the field again who knows if
> it was created by Yorktown or poor ball carrying
> by SB interception was an under thrown ball (but
> still a spectacular play by Stewart) Rather than
> argue with you idiots who take things so literal
> just read this account of the game they got it
> right and straight from the head coaches mouth "no
> one soiled themselves"
>
> http://vivaloudoun.blogspot.com/

You're quoting a Loudoun site as a nonbiased source of Friday's game? Give me a break and see below for what rivals.com posted about the back and forth of it. You say Yorktown "sucked," and I say you don't know jack and that your behavior on here is an embarassment. I've been watching SB since the school opened and nobody scored like that on us. They were a much smaller team, on the road, that outhit and outhustled us in the first half and still led 29-28 in the third. We all saw the game and we know that our heavily favored team was def better, but the views you've espoused here are not credible and sound like you're a hater, too. Read below what Rivals.com posted about the game and learn to respect our opponents' achievements. Oh, I agree with the dude's post from ER that under your logic SB has to be considered an underachiever at states all of these years vs. our reg season and NR performances.

Stone Bridge 69, Yorktown 50 (Final) Reply

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Two 12-0 programs battled in the Northern Region Championship game on Friday afternoon at Stone Bridge High School as the Bulldogs, from the Liberty District, played host to the Yorktown Patriots, who make their home in the National District.

In one of the craziest back-and-forth contests in recent memory, Stone Bridge battled back from a 22-point deficit in the second quarter with 55 unanswered points to take a 33-point lead in the fourth quarter only to see Yorktown cut it to 12 points before a kickoff return capped the scoring in a game that saw 119 points put on the board.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 25, 2012 09:19AM

To all those who think Yorktown Wrote:
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> was a good TEAM.........The SB Yorktown game was
> at best a strange game those who want to give
> props to Yorktown don't know anything about
> football and who was a strong team and who wasn't
> including a fairly knowledgeable fan in easternva
> who just babbled nonsense at me. I stand by all my
> logic Yorktown's D sucked and SB shouda won, couda
> won and did win. By the way if you could use your
> noogin the term is shoudo wouda couda. To the SB
> fan who feels the need to be gracious - Yes
> Yorktown made some nice plays to create fumbles
> when SB was not taking care of the ball the first
> fumble the SB back did not protect the ball and
> the defender was beat and reached out and manged
> to hit the ball good effort but a bit of luck
> involved and poor play from the runner. Second
> fumble not one SB fan can say what happened it was
> on the far side of the field. Third fumble was a
> pile in the middle of the field again who knows if
> it was created by Yorktown or poor ball carrying
> by SB interception was an under thrown ball (but
> still a spectacular play by Stewart) Rather than
> argue with you idiots who take things so literal
> just read this account of the game they got it
> right and straight from the head coaches mouth "no
> one soiled themselves"
>
> http://vivaloudoun.blogspot.com/


Hey, don't associate me with any of your hating remarks about Yorktown or Westfield on here. I'm a big believer in SB even before I saw Friday's game. But don't be hating on Yorktown. They gave you guys fits for over half the game, and on your field. They made you pay for every TO, forced several of them, and lit up 29 on you by halftime. Your third quarter was as good as I've ever seen a HS team play--serously. But don't be hating on a team that gave you everything it had, whose skill players went both ways, and whose lines were no match for yours when push came to shove. Even with a hurt QB and that LB out, they still blocked your 2PAT to lead you in the third. They're at home now bc they aren't the better team and you clearly outplayed them in the second half. But don't act like SB is some dominator at states and that was my point in the prior post. You hate on Yorktown for losing but you don't see me hating on SB here even though your record even though ER has won 7 of the last 8 D5 titles and 13 of the past 20. I love SB football and I love NR and Concorde FB. Enjoy the sport. Give us some insights, not fan bias and this board will get a lot more interesting. So maybe let's talk about next week's games and get some predictions going. OK?



http://virginiapreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=2534&tid=160149958&mid=160149958&sid=914&style=2

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: GridIron1 ()
Date: November 25, 2012 09:47AM

To all those who think Yorktown Wrote:
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> was a good TEAM.........The SB Yorktown game was
> at best a strange game those who want to give
> props to Yorktown don't know anything about
> football and who was a strong team and who wasn't
> including a fairly knowledgeable fan in easternva
> who just babbled nonsense at me. I stand by all my
> logic Yorktown's D sucked and SB shouda won, couda
> won and did win. By the way if you could use your
> noogin the term is shoudo wouda couda. To the SB
> fan who feels the need to be gracious - Yes
> Yorktown made some nice plays to create fumbles
> when SB was not taking care of the ball the first
> fumble the SB back did not protect the ball and
> the defender was beat and reached out and manged
> to hit the ball good effort but a bit of luck
> involved and poor play from the runner. Second
> fumble not one SB fan can say what happened it was
> on the far side of the field. Third fumble was a
> pile in the middle of the field again who knows if
> it was created by Yorktown or poor ball carrying
> by SB interception was an under thrown ball (but
> still a spectacular play by Stewart) Rather than
> argue with you idiots who take things so literal
> just read this account of the game they got it
> right and straight from the head coaches mouth "no
> one soiled themselves"
>
> http://vivaloudoun.blogspot.com/


To NR FAN or whoever you are:
I enthusiastically agree with the other posts on here about SB's win Friday, including that your posts come across as being more of a hater than somebody who values sportsmanship and momentum swings. . I was at the game and I don't route for either team. I just like good FB and what I saw was that the team you say "sucks" outplayed and outhit SB in the first half. You were heavily favored (rivals.com, -14), at home and have 2 ESPNs, too. We all saw a great display of what SB can do in the third quarter. But Yorktown put up 29 on you at half and still had enough fight to stop the 2PAT and lead 29-28 in the third. You can "spin" it anyway you want but the people who actually saw the game know what happened. Oh, did you notice that The QB was hurt, plus they lost that #8 LB who was all over the field for them in them in the first half? They were gamers who had SB down in the third and on the road. If they "suck" for doing that, then you really are just a jealous hater.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: November 25, 2012 11:05AM

I must say that I am shocked by the Westfield-Oakton game and did not see that outcome as a possibility. I stand corrected though and congratulations to the Cougars on a fantastic playoff run.

I will be at Oakton next week cheering you guys on.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: just wondering ()
Date: November 25, 2012 11:42AM

Is it me, or is the Northern Region Championship trophy kind of small - given the effort that goes into winning it? I've seen bigger team trophies in youth football leagues.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: November 25, 2012 11:46AM

steve k2 Wrote:
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> I must say that I am shocked by the
> Westfield-Oakton game and did not see that outcome
> as a possibility. I stand corrected though and
> congratulations to the Cougars on a fantastic
> playoff run.
>
> I will be at Oakton next week cheering you guys
> on.


Same here Steve k2.......Both last year and this year I would have rather seen the Bulldogs lose one in the regular season. Oakton played with an attitude of a #7 seed with nothing to lose and Westfield just the opposite. Many congrats to the Cougers and also to the Bulldogs for a fantastic season. Felt bad for those guys yesterday.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: thoughts ()
Date: November 25, 2012 12:07PM

After watching both games...

First off Yorktown is not an overrated football team. I think Stone Bridge is just that good. Yorktown was very opportunistic in the first half to take a large lead. When SB settled down they played up to their ability and blew the game wide open. 3 fantastic players on the field Burns, Allen, and Stewart. All 3 might have been the best iv seen in the area all year.
Last thought I dont think it is fair to compare Oakton to Yorktown based off their South County games. As everyone said on this board Oakton is a very different team than they were week 2.

Secondly Westfield is always a great atmosphere and I enjoyed watching the game there. Oakton had a much better game plan and contained the run very well there was little opportunity for either team to throw the ball effectively. It is tough for those Westfield players to come up short for the second year in a row but they just did not play a better game today. They say you have to beat the best to be the best and Oakton beat the 1, 2, and 3 seeds. My hat goes off to them

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Size matters? ()
Date: November 25, 2012 04:09PM

just wondering Wrote:
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> Is it me, or is the Northern Region Championship
> trophy kind of small - given the effort that goes
> into winning it? I've seen bigger team trophies
> in youth football leagues.


Hey asswipe-go find the youth league board if your
complaining about trophy size.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Random Dude ()
Date: November 25, 2012 06:38PM

You've probably seen bigger trophies in youth leagues because helicopter parents like you ensure that every little dick, jon, and steve gets a trophy just for trying.

Who gives a shit how big the trophy is? It's the accomplishment that counts. Just look at the ncaa titles - a wooden plaque no bigger than a legal size piece of paper

just wondering Wrote:
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> Is it me, or is the Northern Region Championship
> trophy kind of small - given the effort that goes
> into winning it? I've seen bigger team trophies
> in youth football leagues.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR fan is an idiot ()
Date: November 25, 2012 06:44PM

Trophy may be small, but your team year up on that banner is huge and there forever!!! That is all the trophy that counts and matters. Memories, team bonds/lessons, and work ethic gained is the prize they deserve and cherish I bet. Getting a fat state ring would be pretty nice too though.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: SB Fan2 ()
Date: November 25, 2012 07:02PM

thoughts Wrote:
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> After watching both games...
>
> First off Yorktown is not an overrated football
> team. I think Stone Bridge is just that good.
> Yorktown was very opportunistic in the first half
> to take a large lead. When SB settled down they
> played up to their ability and blew the game wide
> open. 3 fantastic players on the field Burns,
> Allen, and Stewart. All 3 might have been the
> best iv seen in the area all year.
> Last thought I dont think it is fair to compare
> Oakton to Yorktown based off their South County
> games. As everyone said on this board Oakton is a
> very different team than they were week 2.
>
> Secondly Westfield is always a great atmosphere
> and I enjoyed watching the game there. Oakton had
> a much better game plan and contained the run very
> well there was little opportunity for either team
> to throw the ball effectively. It is tough for
> those Westfield players to come up short for the
> second year in a row but they just did not play a
> better game today. They say you have to beat the
> best to be the best and Oakton beat the 1, 2, and
> 3 seeds. My hat goes off to them


Saw both games, too, and saw your post as insightful. See what you think of this one, even if it comes from an SB fan who might have some bias.

Oakton-Westfield showed us again how tough it is to escape one’s fellow Concorde teams twice in the same season. We saw that last year when C’ville won the 2nd of 2 close games with Westfield. This year, I should have believed after Oakton’s 2nd playoff win. Instead, I was still thinking they would falter at some point in regionals and was flat out wrong. They muted Westfield’s O for most of the day and make the most of their scoring opportunities.

SB-Yorktown: Unlike D6, in D5 you usually don’t have to beat a tough team twice to get to states. Instead, you run into one team that can beat you if you have a bad day. In 2011, it was SoCo. This year, it was Yorktown. We both were 12-0 and 24-1 over 2 years. We both lost to state finalist SoCo last year (Yorktown beat a young SoCo last week) and we both beat 5 or 6 playoff teams this year. We have 2 stars and players everywhere. Yorktown had speed and a few players. We saw all of that Fri. We jumped on them first possession; they answered and scored on us like nobody has in years (29 at half). Then our stars, our lines and our special teams (which scored 2 TDs) showed who is better. We learned that we can’t beat a team like Yorktown if we have TOs (see first half Fri). Yorktown learned that you have to play all 48 to beat SB. I liked Stewart, #12 (tall receiver), #45 and #8 (left hurt I think around half), but we had way too many players and we executed in the 2nd half.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: woodsonfan ()
Date: November 25, 2012 10:21PM

Who are the next coaches to fall now that Taylor has gone? Fairfax, Woodson, McLean, West Springfield?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: November 25, 2012 11:13PM

Fairfax will more than likely keep their staff. I don't think they've done a great job, but have had enough success to stay safe.

West Springfield's staff is doing a great job.

With Woodson's staff it remains to be seen what will happen, but I think they've earned a third year and have been improving. Not going to continue this debate though.

McLean will defenitely keep Worek as it was his first year.

I honestly see very little change this offseason in coaching staffs. The one major shake up I have heard, is Haddock over at Centreville may be on Phoebus's short list for their head coaching position down south. Now this is a dream job for a coach but whether he wants to move or gets offered the job is tbd. If it were to happen though, there is a good chance an established coach would end up at Centreville opening up another job.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ..ate To The Party ()
Date: November 26, 2012 02:14PM

Greatest response ever, "I guess they don't have L's on planet dumbass". I have been ..aughing for 15 minutes.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Hanover ()
Date: November 27, 2012 09:14AM

Go Hawks!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR fan is an idiot ()
Date: November 27, 2012 09:53AM

NR Fanatic Wrote:
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> Fairfax will more than likely keep their staff. I
> don't think they've done a great job, but have had
> enough success to stay safe.
>
> West Springfield's staff is doing a great job.
>
> With Woodson's staff it remains to be seen what
> will happen, but I think they've earned a third
> year and have been improving. Not going to
> continue this debate though.
>
> McLean will defenitely keep Worek as it was his
> first year.


I think Fairfax coach (Simonds) is in his last year unless he produces a regional qualifying team. And even so, he might have to get to the semi-finals to keep it. He has very good talent there and needs to do something with it. You can't lose games to W-L and be .500 in district play and expect good things. I personally like where Fairfax is going next year and expect them to take down teams such as Madison and Langley who are their equal competition every year. Need a solution at QB though because Black was a very good talent. JV squad seems to have talent as their only losses were to SB and Westfield, but mowed down everyone else.

West Springfield isn't going anywhere. I think this was an up year for the Patriot with West Pot doing good and LB running the show. Very bad second half of the season with poor showings against TC and Woodson, but still got into the playoffs. There is a lot of youth on this team and I think a 2nd place finish can be expected next year in the district.

If they haven't gotten rid of the Woodson coaches yet, then they are given one more year. I think at least 3 district wins will keep their jobs safe so wins over TC, Annandale, and whoever is needed.

McLean was in their first year of a whole new staff basically, so they might have 2 more years to do something with it. They seem to be a consistent middle of the road team, but they seem to focus more on their matchups with Langley than making the playoffs. If this is so then expect a couple of disappointing years because Langley is looking sharp for years to come. Offense will need some serious work though as putting points up on the board was difficult for these guys.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Jess1 ()
Date: November 27, 2012 11:55AM

Fairfax is in a sports "death spiral" due to an unlucky combination of personel and administration. Coaches such as Simonds & Freeman are loved (the exact word used by the current Principal) by the Fairfax City BoE/FHS admin, and "sports" in general are not supported by the Administration. I look for a continuation of the 00's mediocrity in most of their major sports...

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fan is an idiot ()
Date: November 27, 2012 01:07PM

With the way their school is structured and how large they are, they should be better than they are at many sports, but they are usually just above mediocrity. Football will be on the upswing I feel. I know people on here either hate Fairfax and make fun of them a lot because they didn't make playoffs this year when many ranted that they would, but Simonds is a good coach and has some good pieces in place. Their administration however does have some flakes within it. Melnick is really not the person for the job since she took over the position a last year. If she lets Simonds go, it will be a big mistake because they should push up to the next level soon.

Here is my ranking of Fairfax sports in general:

GOOD
boys basketball
cheerleading/dance
field hockey

AVERAGE
girls basketball
football
crew
softball
baseball
girls lacrosse
girls soccer
wrestling
gymnastics

BAD
boys lacrosse
boys soccer
swimming

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Jess1 ()
Date: November 27, 2012 03:44PM

Well, if by "Average" you mean "under .500", then yes, FHS has a number of "average" teams/programs.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: westdog4 ()
Date: November 27, 2012 04:44PM

Simmonds needs an OC. He has a great athlete in Nick Scott but does not know how to use him. The freshman team has more of a diverse offense for goodness sake.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fan is an idiot ()
Date: November 27, 2012 06:10PM

Jess1 Wrote:
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> Well, if by "Average" you mean "under .500", then
> yes, FHS has a number of "average" teams/programs.


Average is meant that the teams flutter around .500. Sorry but not every one of those teams had exact .500 records as I thought I made that clear, but I will indulge you and add in the extra definition since it seems to be that you need it. Some were above and some were below, but usually they are in the middle of the pack when it comes to overall record and district play for the past couple of years. The sports are even at Fairfax across the board, and like I stated, they usually "flutter" just above mediocrity. Not a good sign with a student population of over 2,400.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Jess1 ()
Date: November 27, 2012 07:48PM

"Average is meant that the teams flutter around .500."
So "flutter" means "constantly under .500"?
FWIW, other conference teams tend to do a bit better against non conf., so even if they split conf. games they still do > .500. FHS, for a variety of reasons, has not done so in a large # of sports over the past 10 ~ 12 years.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: westdog4 ()
Date: November 27, 2012 09:20PM

Well they did manage a field goal against us

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: States, Baby! ()
Date: November 28, 2012 10:31AM

Oakton and Stone Bridge are in a WHOLE lot of trouble if you think they are actually going to win it all.

Briar Woods, with over 2000 kids, still plays in AA and will win a third straight champuionship.

Not fair, really.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: westdog4 ()
Date: November 28, 2012 09:27PM

write it down now 2013 Westfield V Centreville region championship.
Westfield 35-10

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Purple Knight ()
Date: November 28, 2012 10:21PM

It probably will be Westfield-CVille, but stop talking next year. Westfield has choked the last two years, enjoy your offseason and what could have been!

Lake Braddock will also have something to say about next year. Don't write them off.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really...talent ()
Date: November 28, 2012 10:40PM

Centreville is the team to beat the next two seasons. Westfield is not that great. Depending on the new coach Robinson could make noise just because of Wilson.

BTW there is a state semi game Saturday at Cinderella Oakton.
LC Bird 20
Oakton 31

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Bulldawg ()
Date: November 29, 2012 07:21AM

Still depressed after Westfield lost Saturday, BUT----Go Oakton Cougars vs. LC Byrd - Represent the Concorde well! Westfield scrimmaged Byrd at the begining of the year and they are good. Would love to see a Concorde team go all the way. Good luck.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ALLMETSPORTS.com Sucks ()
Date: November 29, 2012 08:28AM

Play of the year, really. They don't have Downers, no time on the clock TD to beat Centreville and go to Regional final as an option......RIDICULOUS to not even have it as a nominee. BOO Allmet and whatever that idiots name is.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/post/help-us-select-the-top-play-of-the-football-season/2012/11/27/70d053f6-38a3-11e2-b01f-5f55b193f58f_blog.html

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 29, 2012 01:44PM

Bulldawg Wrote:
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> Still depressed after Westfield lost Saturday,
> BUT----Go Oakton Cougars vs. LC Byrd - Represent
> the Concorde well! Westfield scrimmaged Byrd at
> the begining of the year and they are good. Would
> love to see a Concorde team go all the way. Good
> luck.

Oakton-Bird should be good. Concorde is great prep for Oakton's D to deal with power runs that Coach Bedwell's teams always use. Hermy had Bird down 20-10 in the fourth 2 weeks ago but couldn't stop Robertson (200+ rushing). Unlike prior years, Bird can pass too. I'm going, hoping see Oakton do it again. Cougars, remind Bird that Concorde teams hit, too.

SB-Hanover: SB has momentum. After giving up 29 pts in the 1st half to speedy Yorktown, SB showed it has the talent and heart to be at UVA Dec. 8. Chasing Patriots is good prep and SB should win convincingly. This is not a slap at Hanover but an opinion about how good SB can play. Leave the conservative play calling at home. "Unleash the fury" as Tom Green said in Road Trip.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: westpoop ()
Date: November 29, 2012 03:24PM

The best returning player in the region BY FAR is Pierson-El from West Potomac. Will he have the best stats. No. Shame

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: November 29, 2012 06:14PM

westpoop Wrote:
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> The best returning player in the region BY FAR is
> Pierson-El from West Potomac. Will he have the
> best stats. No. Shame

I saw him play and he has game--similar to MJ Stewart from Yorktown. Stewart ran for 200 yards+ on SB last week, intercepted a pass, recovered a fumble, and took a hook-and-ladder to the house as one of his 1st half TDs. Against SoCo (which finished above Westpo in Patriot), Steward had almost 300 all-purpose yards in a big W. I'm not saying that one of these players will be the best player in R, but they both have game. Your post suggests that Pierson-El won't have the best stats and agree that stats don't always show who can play. I hope they both have great seasons and pick a college that values their speed, ability and heart, despite their size. If I had to pick, it would be Stewart because he does so much on both sides. That's probably a big reason why his team is still ranked pretty high in coaches' polls and WaPo, too.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: PiersonEl Rumors ()
Date: November 29, 2012 07:02PM

westpoop Wrote:
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> The best returning player in the region BY FAR is
> Pierson-El from West Potomac. Will he have the
> best stats. No. Shame

I heard from some LB players that Pierson-El is going to transfer to Braddock next year. Can anyone Confirm/Refute that?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Nope, He's Stayin' ()
Date: November 30, 2012 07:44AM

I'm sure the LB players are saying that. They starting saying it last March, too.

Why would Pierson-El want to go someplace where he's got to share the spotlight? All District everything, District player of the year, regional honors, he's going to give all that up to get what, maybe a quarter of the touches he had this season? you make me laugh.

Nice try, Coach Henderson. Keep trying to dredge up that old rumor. If you didn't hear it from Pierson-El -- or more importantly his grandfather -- it ain't happening.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ballz ()
Date: November 30, 2012 03:17PM

Your Grandfather!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: hsparent ()
Date: December 01, 2012 09:16PM

Oakton lost.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Let it go ()
Date: December 02, 2012 09:35AM

Why the continued hate, yes Oakton lost. But they are the 2012 Northern Reginal Champs, let it go. It's in the books.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Let it go II ()
Date: December 02, 2012 09:37AM

*Regional* butter finger....

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: RydellRoad ()
Date: December 03, 2012 03:42PM

Very dissapointing showing by Oakton. Concorde District should never have allowed a 1-4 conference record to slip into the state tournament. I think Westfield, Chantilly and Centreville were better teams than Oakton. However, Oakton got the job done so what can you say.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: EasternVaFan ()
Date: December 03, 2012 04:19PM

Yeah, Oakton had a great playoff run. I thought that Bird might be flat after tough wins v. Hermy (Bird down 20-10 late) and Varina and having to travel. Instead, they did what Coach Bedwell's teams do: run, wear down and expect big plays. Do you think Concorde was "down" this year? I wonder, with C'Ville struggling vs. D5 teams like Mt. Vernon and Hayfield (OT) SB soundly beating 'Tilly and Robinson, and Westfield being a young team that maybe overachieved in going 12-0 until the final. When I say "down," I mean "down" for Concorde. Concorde remains from year-to-year the best district in the state.



RydellRoad Wrote:
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> Very dissapointing showing by Oakton. Concorde
> District should never have allowed a 1-4
> conference record to slip into the state
> tournament. I think Westfield, Chantilly and
> Centreville were better teams than Oakton.
> However, Oakton got the job done so what can you
> say.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: December 03, 2012 07:10PM

Herndon/Robinson/Chantilly/Oakton - probably about the same as last year.
Centreville and Westfield -"down"

That being said, it's hard to argue the Concorde was "down" when it was an all Concorde final four in the NR. Perhaps the entire NR D6 is slipping a bit...


EasternVaFan Wrote:
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> Yeah, Oakton had a great playoff run. I thought
> that Bird might be flat after tough wins v. Hermy
> (Bird down 20-10 late) and Varina and having to
> travel. Instead, they did what Coach Bedwell's
> teams do: run, wear down and expect big plays. Do
> you think Concorde was "down" this year? I wonder,
> with C'Ville struggling vs. D5 teams like Mt.
> Vernon and Hayfield (OT) SB soundly beating 'Tilly
> and Robinson, and Westfield being a young team
> that maybe overachieved in going 12-0 until the
> final. When I say "down," I mean "down" for
> Concorde. Concorde remains from year-to-year the
> best district in the state.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Still hating... ()
Date: December 04, 2012 08:11AM

Wow. Funny and sad all at once.

"Very dissapointing showing by Oakton. Concorde District should never have allowed a 1-4 conference record to slip into the state tournament. I think Westfield, Chantilly and Centreville were better teams than Oakton. However, Oakton got the job done so what can you say."

You are still a hater with a back handed compliment at the end. Oakton was better than Westfields, Centreville, Lake B and even Chantilly in 2012. Why? They got it done when it counted (in NR), end of discussion. Any more response is just plain bitterness. Time to let it be history.....

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Comparison ()
Date: December 04, 2012 08:15AM

And Green Bay was better than the NY Giants last year, right? But there is this little thing called the playoffs, and this is why we play the game.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: RydellRoad ()
Date: December 04, 2012 11:54AM

No. Just facts. I was at the game rooting for Oakton - were you?

You can't have it both ways - Oakton fans crowing all over the message boards on their spectacular run and as soon as they lose everyone needs to shut up and not talk about it anymore?


Still hating... Wrote:
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more response is just
> plain bitterness. Time to let it be history.....

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Still hating... ()
Date: December 04, 2012 12:03PM

wtf, facts? Fact is they went further than the teams you claimed better (see Giants post for further explanation of better, playoffs and meaning thereof). Yea at game rooting. And how am I having it both ways? I am still here posting the facts, you are not. You're defining troll, reply all you want...I am done with this forum, move on everyone.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: RydellRoad ()
Date: December 04, 2012 01:12PM

u r 2 sensitive. I was hoping for an Oakton win and dissappointed with the game. However, i agree it seems pointless to discuss further.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KingConcorde ()
Date: December 04, 2012 05:18PM

Oakton fan, where was all your woofing when they lost 4 district games in a row? Were you on here saying, "wait till the playoffs?"a Yes an incredible run which they are to be commended for, but they got spanked badly by LCB, never was a game and it came to an end. They weren't as good as they played at the end and not as bad as they played in the middle.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Fan is an idiot ()
Date: December 04, 2012 05:35PM

As an Oakton fan I think we can be proud of what our team accomplished this year. Ranking 5th in our district, which let's be honest would be first or second in any other district in the state, and then going into the playoffs and defeating the top 3 seeded teams is quite an accomplishment. When it comes to the state level, Concorde fans should be routing for any team that we send into the playoffs as it only helps our district look more powerful. With the exception of Herndon, any Concorde team can beat the other on a given day. The Gauntlet is a correct term for it. I know many Oakton people who would have been routing for Westfield just the same if they were hosting the game. As far as comparison goes between the teams, Westfield did have the better record, but Oakton won the trophy. I am sure Westfield players/fans would say that they were the better on that given day. Overall doesn't matter when playoffs are concerned, just that one day. And if you are better on that day, then you get a chance to prove it again.

Now on to the game itself, LC Bird was faster, stronger, and way more athletic than Oakton. #22, #4 and #1 were studs and took the top off the defense and when #22 got to the outside there was no stopping him. Sorry, but this team would have beat any Concorde team we threw at them. I was so impressed that I am making the trip down to Charlottesville to see this great matchup between them and Ocean Lakes because I think LC Bird will take them. Even though I don't think it would have made a difference, Oakton was playing short handed the whole game was 1st team All-Region OT Chris Durant did not play (which means two starting offensive linemen were out for the Cougars), Andy Boone got hurt on a bad helmet to helmet hit in the second quarter, and because of this adjustments to different positions had to be made which made Oakton one dimensional, which tired them out because how many hits can Wandey and Downer take.

One thing I will say about LC Bird is that I wish they showed a little bit more of class because their studs did not come out until 2 minutes left in the game (bad chance of getting injured) and they were still trying to score even though they were up 41-17. Dirty pool which may come back to haunt them in the karma game. I do not put this on the kids, but on the coaching staff. In my mind it seemed like they had a chip on their shoulder against a team who didn't help put it there and they were trying to make a point.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really....talent ()
Date: December 04, 2012 08:54PM

Oakton got beat. Teams get beat. You can't take their run and region title away from them. The only team that had the players to keeps up with Bird would be c'ville, but they may be too young right now to win. The playoffs are what they are. They system will change next year, but Oakton would have made it in still and pulled Braddock in the first round too. You have to give the staff and players a lot of credit for doing what they did. They were able to shut down the top 3 teams in our area in the playoffs. Everyone would have rather seen them beat bird and bring a title back to the region to make everyone look good. The thing is this area just wasn't that good this year. Teams were down. There are limited D1 players on the rosters, so it makes it difficult to compete with the beach and Richmond where teams are loaded. Oakton only had 40 kids on their roster and that caught up with them in the state game when some players got hurt. I says congrats to Oakton. You shocked the world and deserve the title for your amazing run. Complain all you want, but those teams should have stepped up and crushed them in the playoffs if they were better. Don't give a team an opportunity. You let them hang around and they will beat you.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: fbl fan ()
Date: December 11, 2012 09:17PM

Anyone know who made first team all met?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: KingConcorde ()
Date: December 12, 2012 07:04AM

Really....talent Wrote:
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> Oakton got beat. Teams get beat. You can't take
> their run and region title away from them. The
> only team that had the players to keeps up with
> Bird would be c'ville, but they may be too young
> right now to win. The playoffs are what they are.
> They system will change next year, but Oakton
> would have made it in still and pulled Braddock in
> the first round too. You have to give the staff
> and players a lot of credit for doing what they
> did. They were able to shut down the top 3 teams
> in our area in the playoffs. Everyone would have
> rather seen them beat bird and bring a title back
> to the region to make everyone look good. The
> thing is this area just wasn't that good this
> year. Teams were down. There are limited D1
> players on the rosters, so it makes it difficult
> to compete with the beach and Richmond where teams
> are loaded. Oakton only had 40 kids on their
> roster and that caught up with them in the state
> game when some players got hurt. I says congrats
> to Oakton. You shocked the world and deserve the
> title for your amazing run. Complain all you
> want, but those teams should have stepped up and
> crushed them in the playoffs if they were better.
> Don't give a team an opportunity. You let them
> hang around and they will beat you.


The only team that could keep up with Byrd is C'ville------not even close dude, not even close. Westfield maybe....because they actually scrimmaged them early on and did not get blown out at all....BUT Byrd'stud RB did not play, so that is a different story. Not this year, not Cville, no way.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcordeAlum ()
Date: December 21, 2012 09:24PM

Westfield needs to fire Jon Shields. He makes all his players feel like shit and is a bullybtowards his players. Its really annoying how Coach Rob Everett does all the work and Shields gets the credit. He is a hotheaded , short tempered low life.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Really.... ()
Date: December 21, 2012 09:52PM

Same poster from the 2013 thread. Your kid sucks. Shields is not coaching next year anyway. The fact that you stick up for Rob Everett says a lot about your character, he was run out of Lee for the same crap. Neither one was any good when it counted in the playoffs. Oakton kicked their ass

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: BruinNation ()
Date: December 21, 2012 09:58PM

Both coaches KILL their players confidences by constantly reminding them how bad they are. It felt like there Defense played so they wont get chewed instead of actually wanting to win

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Mr.Simonds, ()
Date: June 13, 2013 07:58PM

Fairfax Will have a good season

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concordebacker ()
Date: July 11, 2013 06:21PM

Football is almost here! Cant wait ... New playoff system with the Northern Conference winner basically taking on the rest of the states best for the State Championship. My guess is that it will be Centreville representing the North against South's best.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Patser ()
Date: July 12, 2013 07:12PM

Any thoughts on all the teams in the patriot district this season?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: oleaaaa ()
Date: July 15, 2013 10:17AM

Lake Braddock will dominate the district, and slip up against the concorde.

West Springfield and TC Williams will compete, South County will recruit and cheat but still end up around .500. West Potomac will be massively undercoached as usual, and not use the great athletes they have. Annandale and Woodson will be awful (probably dishuns last season from the reports on this thread and the lack of success) and Lee will go 0-10....pretty much the way the district has been for at least the past decade.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: harryh ()
Date: July 15, 2013 03:16PM

It's been too long. Can someone please start another unflattering thread about the Hendersons?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: admitit ()
Date: July 17, 2013 08:58PM

lovesconcordefootball Wrote:
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> One statement I have not seen on the discussion
> about ER compared to NR. How do ER teams like
> Phoebus and OS stay as powerful, year after year,
> making states or Regional Finals? I may not fully
> understand the ER academic rules but if I
> understand even partially, the ER local students
> can pick schools in their area (surely based on
> academics) while Fairfax Counties are very strict.
> Had Westfield had Conner Coward, Manny Smith, Ken
> Ekanum and/or Chase Walter or Centreville had Mo
> Katz, Quentin Basil, Kendall Anderson, (and a
> healthy Ken Ekanum and Travis Whitney), the
> outcome would have been completely different. I
> have not even included if either could have added
> Chantilly players been to the mix......
>
> While I believe either Westfield or Centreville's
> chances of making the Northern Regional Finals
> this season are significantly less, but not
> impossible, compared to 2011, they are both
> gearing up for strong 2013 and 2014 seasons. I
> will say the Centreville's coaching staff Varsity
> to Freshman are phenomenal and know how to work
> with the players and build teams while a new
> Westfield's coaching staff turned a what seemed to
> be an underachieving 2010 team around in 2011.
> Compared to the coaching prior to Coach Haddock's
> hiring, kids left in droves in their Sophomore and
> Junior years. The retention rate for last years
> players and the size of the incoming freshman in
> C'Ville look to be very promising going forward.

EXACTLY. NR has wayyy more talent- its just spread. give cvilles
state finalist team Westfields #8 , #23 , Mo and the QB- Game would have been a joke. regional final was best game all year

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: of course it would ()
Date: July 20, 2013 06:05PM

of course it would...a bunch of chantilly white boys would have done fine against the oscar smith team that put 10 guys in division one schools...

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concordebacker ()
Date: July 26, 2013 08:06AM

Virginia Preps is down to their final 2 picks in the Virginia 6A football pre season top 10 and I think Centreville will be #2. Westfield was #5 and Lake Braddock was #6. With the new classification system the winner of the North Division will go straight to the State Championship. It should be a great season with a lot of great players from our area playing their Senior years before heading to play in College. I think Preps has it about right, I think these 3 teams will end up as the best from the North.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: highschoolballfan ()
Date: July 27, 2013 03:55PM

Virginia Preps has indeed just come out today and predicted Centreville as the #2 rated high school football team in the state for 2013 season. That will make Ocean Lakes from down south the almost certain #1 pick. Cannot wait for the season to start!!! Go Centreville Wildcats, would love another trip to UVA for state finals in December!!!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: HSFootballfan ()
Date: July 27, 2013 06:28PM

I would rate the Fairfax County top ten as:

Centreville
Westfield
Lake Braddock
Robinson
Yorktown
Chantilly
Oakton
Hayfield
Madison
Langley

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: highschoolballfan ()
Date: July 27, 2013 07:24PM

Good list. Given a bit easier overall schedule and a strong QB in Henderson though, I suspect LBraddock might sneak ahead of Westfield into the #2 spot. However, I agree if all plays to form Centreville should be the tops in the North this year. All depends on player health, focus, coaching, etc.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: novafan ()
Date: July 28, 2013 07:37PM

To all of the coaches on ffxu,

Among your peers, who are the best position coaches in the region? Who are the best Quarterback, wide receiver, defensive back, etc coaches around?

If I wanted my 9th grade son, who is a running back/ slot receiver to learn from the best, who would I take him to?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: hornet ()
Date: July 30, 2013 08:26PM

Brian Day at herndon has a great reputation as a quarterback coach and developer.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: spartanjoke ()
Date: July 31, 2013 05:47PM

Nobody is mentioning West Springfield! Oh sorry - did want to make anyone laugh. Their cheer is thank God for Edison. 1-9 this year if they are lucky. Thanks JT and Andy!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: knowledge ()
Date: July 31, 2013 10:21PM

Adam Shaker is the best wide receiver coach in the state. he is a GA at Old Dominion University and a former wr coach at fairfax.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: HSFootballfanVECmj ()
Date: August 03, 2013 01:16AM

Centreville was rated #2 by Rivals in the state. Are they the best team in Fairfax? If not, who is?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: August 03, 2013 03:05AM

All of the Concorde District teams will be a factor in the Northern Region but a lot of how the season unfolds will be dependent upon injuries and the development of younger players. In addition to the Concorde District teams, possibly minus Herndon, you will have the traditional powers of Lake Braddock and Yorktown contributing to the race.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: uh oh ()
Date: August 13, 2013 06:05PM

One of Centrevilles most promising players leaves and heads to Flint Hill. OUCH. Serves Haddock right.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whaaaat ()
Date: August 13, 2013 06:13PM

Who left?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: uh oh ()
Date: August 13, 2013 06:39PM

Christian Martey

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Whaaat ()
Date: August 14, 2013 10:42AM

They have depth at fullback, so not a huge deal.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: enjoy while you can ()
Date: August 14, 2013 10:56AM

The backlash against foolishness like artificial turf and closing libraries is going to mean cuts, if not the outright cessation of, the County's extensive football programs. This is not Texas, go there if you want football instead of education.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: catfan310 ()
Date: August 14, 2013 03:28PM

They didnt play with last year and he is transferring so he can sit this year out and play next year to get more colleges looking at him. He is not 100 percent at this time.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: FBALL ()
Date: August 14, 2013 03:30PM

Wrong, football everywhere first. GO O
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Re: High School Football
Posted by: datdude ()
Date: August 14, 2013 09:28PM

I heard Christian Martey left and is ready to go. He is playing this season and his senior season next year at flint hill. I wish him good luck and that he does good athletically and academically he is a great kid.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: beast ()
Date: August 14, 2013 09:30PM

I've met Christian and he has a ton of heart. He will ball where ever he goes.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: break out season ()
Date: August 14, 2013 09:32PM

Taylor boose should do great this year.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: questions ()
Date: August 14, 2013 10:02PM

Who is left in the wildcats backfield?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: old44 ()
Date: August 15, 2013 10:46AM

why leave if 100 percent....dont need another season to be recruited. your source maybe protecting him, but he isnt ready to go at 100 percent. truth will come out. best of luck to him, nice kid.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde45 ()
Date: August 15, 2013 03:37PM

questions Wrote:
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> Who is left in the wildcats backfield?


AJ Turner, #23, Junior. Will start at a wing. Their best player and will probably be one of the two best running backs in the region (Pierson-el).

Taylor Boose, #15, Junior. Most likely replacement for Martey at fullback. A solid player, and was good in relief for Martey when he tore his ACL last year.

Xavier Nickens-Yzer, #4, Junior. Most likely at wing. Heard that he was just playing defense, but played wing last year and with Martey gone, they need another body. Very explosive, returned two kicks for touchdowns.

Scotty Walter, #10, Senior. Will start at quarterback. Not a great passer, but has some targets (Tutt, Heiner). Very athletic for his size, and a power runner.

That's my projection for their starting backfield. Other things could happen, I don't think they will, but I'm not completey sure.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Backfield ()
Date: August 15, 2013 04:32PM

Centreville will have a great backfield

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Datdude ()
Date: August 15, 2013 05:24PM

Whether he is 100 percent or not I know he will ball his heart out and be a team player. That's why he's a division 1 prospect

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: questions ()
Date: August 15, 2013 09:03PM

Concorde45 Wrote:
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> questions Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who is left in the wildcats backfield?
>
>
> AJ Turner, #23, Junior. Will start at a wing.
> Their best player and will probably be one of the
> two best running backs in the region
> (Pierson-el).
>
> Taylor Boose, #15, Junior. Most likely replacement
> for Martey at fullback. A solid player, and was
> good in relief for Martey when he tore his ACL
> last year.
>
> Xavier Nickens-Yzer, #4, Junior. Most likely at
> wing. Heard that he was just playing defense, but
> played wing last year and with Martey gone, they
> need another body. Very explosive, returned two
> kicks for touchdowns.
>
> Scotty Walter, #10, Senior. Will start at
> quarterback. Not a great passer, but has some
> targets (Tutt, Heiner). Very athletic for his
> size, and a power runner.
>
> That's my projection for their starting backfield.
> Other things could happen, I don't think they
> will, but I'm not completey sure.

Sounds like a solid back field. They should run the table this year...

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde45 ()
Date: August 16, 2013 09:45AM

Also heard that Martey is redoing his junior year and will graduate in '15 from flint hill. Not completely sure but if it is true but if it is, it almost serves as another year of eligibility after he missed last year. Either way, I wish him the best of luck.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concorde Football ()
Date: August 16, 2013 11:38AM

Concorde45 Wrote:

> AJ Turner, #23, Junior. Will start at a wing.
> Their best player and will probably be one of the
> two best running backs in the region
> (Pierson-el).

I guess you forgot about Stewart from Yorktown and Wilson from Robinson for some reason. Turner is top 5 or 6 in the region.

Should be ranked:
1) Stewart - Yorktown
T2) Pierson-el - West Potomac
T3) Wilson - Robinson
4) Nick Scott - Fairfax
5) Turner - Centreville

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Donald Trump ()
Date: August 16, 2013 06:01PM

How do you guys think Chantilly will do this year?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: tutt ()
Date: August 17, 2013 03:47AM

Charles tutt is the best athlete on Centreville hands down.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: CVHS' Best ()
Date: August 17, 2013 01:23PM

tutt Wrote:
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> Charles tutt is the best athlete on Centreville
> hands down.


I agree. I think the big three are Charles Tutt, AJ Turner and Xavier Nickens-Yzer.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The Concord's ()
Date: August 17, 2013 01:25PM

Donald Trump Wrote:
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> How do you guys think Chantilly will do this year?


According to Gameday magazine they should do great.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcreteRose ()
Date: August 18, 2013 08:09AM

Everyone saying negative things about my brother Christian Martey are pathetic. He is just a kid...leave him alone. He loved Centreville, but after seein how people were treating him like the head coach (haddock) I am glad he left. He loves football, but also cares about his grades. Leaving was both an academic and athletic decision....not a selfish one. Coach Haddock is pathetic and so is the father of one of the players texting my brother about his decision. Flint Hill is a great school and the head coach actually cares about their players.

Centreville has a great squad still. Chill out. Sheesh.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcreteRose ()
Date: August 18, 2013 08:12AM

And to clarify, I'm saying the coach started treating him differently once he got wind of my brother trying to leave. I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just defending my brother because he doesn't deserve this or anything that came from his choice to transfer. Coach Haddock has issues and only cares about himself and winning....not his players.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Concordebacker ()
Date: August 18, 2013 11:04AM

ConcreteRose Wrote:
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> And to clarify, I'm saying the coach started
> treating him differently once he got wind of my
> brother trying to leave. I'm not trying to start
> anything, I'm just defending my brother because he
> doesn't deserve this or anything that came from
> his choice to transfer. Coach Haddock has issues
> and only cares about himself and winning....not
> his players.

Where on this thread has anyone said anything bad about Martey? All I see is people saying he is leaving and headed to Flint Hill and wishing him well! If you are his brother maybe you can answer the question, why he would leave a state championship level team to play at Flint Hill? Nothing wrong with Flint Hill it is as good a school as money can buy, BUT they sure do not play the same level of Football as Centreville.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The Concorde's ()
Date: August 18, 2013 01:08PM

Concordebacker Wrote:
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> ConcreteRose Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And to clarify, I'm saying the coach started
> > treating him differently once he got wind of my
> > brother trying to leave. I'm not trying to
> start
> > anything, I'm just defending my brother because
> he
> > doesn't deserve this or anything that came from
> > his choice to transfer. Coach Haddock has
> issues
> > and only cares about himself and winning....not
> > his players.
>
> Where on this thread has anyone said anything bad
> about Martey? All I see is people saying he is
> leaving and headed to Flint Hill and wishing him
> well! If you are his brother maybe you can answer
> the question, why he would leave a state
> championship level team to play at Flint Hill?
> Nothing wrong with Flint Hill it is as good a
> school as money can buy, BUT they sure do not play
> the same level of Football as Centreville.

Right. Everyone here is wishing him well because he is a good kid. Also that's a great question by Concordebacker. I would like to know as well...

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Conference 8 ()
Date: August 18, 2013 02:02PM

For those of you that followed the new conference alignments, The Concorde and Patriot districts remained rather untouched while the Liberty/National got split into D6 and D5, however entering what is the remnant of the Northern Region are Osbourn, Osbourn Park, Battlefield, Stonewall Jackson and Patriot High Schools all from the Northwest Region. Does completely jumping region have an effect on either the new teams or the old teams of the new 6A-North either in the regular season or Playoffs?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: August 18, 2013 10:34PM

Conference 8 Wrote:
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> For those of you that followed the new conference
> alignments, The Concorde and Patriot districts
> remained rather untouched while the
> Liberty/National got split into D6 and D5, however
> entering what is the remnant of the Northern
> Region are Osbourn, Osbourn Park, Battlefield,
> Stonewall Jackson and Patriot High Schools all
> from the Northwest Region. Does completely jumping
> region have an effect on either the new teams or
> the old teams of the new 6A-North either in the
> regular season or Playoffs?

Considering that Battlefield (2010) and Osbourn (2006) have won state championships recently it certainly adds some better football programs into 6A North.

However, it's kind of hard to wrap my head around how it's all going to work.

The old 6A Northern Region was 15 teams:

Centreville (Concorde)
Chantilly (Concorde)
Herndon (Concorde)
Oakton (Concorde)
Robinson (Concorde)
Westfield (Concorde)
Washington-Lee (National)
Annandale (Patriot)
Lake Braddock (Patriot)
T.C. Williams (Patriot)
West Potomac (Patriot)
West Springfield (Patriot)
Fairfax (Liberty)
South Lakes (Liberty)
W.T. Woodson (Liberty)

All of the above are still 6A and in 6A North - just 11 additional teams thrown in:

Langley (Liberty 5A)
Madison (Liberty 5A)
McLean (Liberty 5A)
Hayfield (National 5A)
Yorktown (National 5A)
South County (Patriot 5A)
Battlefield (Cedar Run 6A)
Stonewall Jackson (Cedar Run 6A)
Osbourn (Cedar Run 6A)
Osbourn Park (Cardinal 6A)
Patriot (Cedar Run 6A)

Are there going to be Conference Champions? All-Conference teams?

Also, if I understand correctly 16 of the 26 teams will make the playoffs? Is that really correct?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: August 19, 2013 04:17AM

Seriously, I believe that everyone would like to know of the real reason for Christian leaving Centreville for Flint Hill. Did he need assistance with his studies, is he not completely healed from his injury, not going to get enough playing time, or was there irreconcilable conflict with the coach?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NR Watcher ()
Date: August 19, 2013 10:04AM

The new system is explained in detail on this site at: http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/950699/1020765.html#msg-1020765

Bottom line is districts still exist and teams will play all the same district opponents, best district record will be the district champion - all the same as it's been for the past decade or so. What has changed is who is in 6A north per the above post and the playoff system. Playoff's are determined entirely by power points (the PP system was modified slightly) for the top 16. First round will be 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15 etc. The winner of the 6A final game will be the Regional Champion and will play the 6A South Champion for the state championship. This is the same number of playoff games as in the past, but with only 2 regions the regional final and state semi-final are now the same game.

While other sports will have conference playoffs/champions - football will not. From a gym banner standpoint for football you can only be a District Champion, Regional Champion and State Champion.

There will be All-Conference teams and to make it on-to the All-Region Team you have to be 1st team all conference. Editorial: I think this is really dumb. While it works fine for conference 5 and 7 which are the same as their district alignments. For conference 6 which has both Liberty District and National District teams coaches will be voting on players (or not) on teams they never played - Yorktown and WNL only play one liberty district team while Hayfield plays NONE. These teams will get screwed in the voting! Also, if the best two running backs in the region happen to be in the same conference only one of them will get region honors.



newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Conference 8 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For those of you that followed the new
> conference
> > alignments, The Concorde and Patriot districts
> > remained rather untouched while the
> > Liberty/National got split into D6 and D5,
> however
> > entering what is the remnant of the Northern
> > Region are Osbourn, Osbourn Park, Battlefield,
> > Stonewall Jackson and Patriot High Schools all
> > from the Northwest Region. Does completely
> jumping
> > region have an effect on either the new teams
> or
> > the old teams of the new 6A-North either in the
> > regular season or Playoffs?
>
> Considering that Battlefield (2010) and Osbourn
> (2006) have won state championships recently it
> certainly adds some better football programs into
> 6A North.
>
> However, it's kind of hard to wrap my head around
> how it's all going to work.
>
> The old 6A Northern Region was 15 teams:
>
> Centreville (Concorde)
> Chantilly (Concorde)
> Herndon (Concorde)
> Oakton (Concorde)
> Robinson (Concorde)
> Westfield (Concorde)
> Washington-Lee (National)
> Annandale (Patriot)
> Lake Braddock (Patriot)
> T.C. Williams (Patriot)
> West Potomac (Patriot)
> West Springfield (Patriot)
> Fairfax (Liberty)
> South Lakes (Liberty)
> W.T. Woodson (Liberty)
>
> All of the above are still 6A and in 6A North -
> just 11 additional teams thrown in:
>
> Langley (Liberty 5A)
> Madison (Liberty 5A)
> McLean (Liberty 5A)
> Hayfield (National 5A)
> Yorktown (National 5A)
> South County (Patriot 5A)
> Battlefield (Cedar Run 6A)
> Stonewall Jackson (Cedar Run 6A)
> Osbourn (Cedar Run 6A)
> Osbourn Park (Cardinal 6A)
> Patriot (Cedar Run 6A)
>
> Are there going to be Conference Champions?
> All-Conference teams?
>
> Also, if I understand correctly 16 of the 26 teams
> will make the playoffs? Is that really correct?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Flint hill skeptic ()
Date: August 19, 2013 10:42AM

Tell me how Martey's family can afford the 30 grand/year it costs to go to Flint Hill?

Hmmm, I guess Verbanic is now in the position to offer "scholarships" to kids to play football. Will Flint Hill soon become NOVA's version of Good Counsel/Dematha where talented athletes get a private school education for free simply because they can dunk a basketball or run a 4.4. 40?

Perhaps Stu Vetter can come out of retirement and coach FHS basketball and restore it to the glory years of the early 90s when he was there coaching Dennis Scott and the like?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: all so irrelevant ()
Date: August 19, 2013 11:19AM

High school football is SO irrelevant at the end of the day. Today's "touchdown king" will be working for Zerin or Vector Marketing soon. Maybe he'll go door to door in his letterman jacket, hoping it will boost sales?

He will have some nice memories of adolescent sex and playing on turf, just like a real football player. But then **BANG** there's that quota to match, and that girl in personnel is just NOT into him…

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ?????? ()
Date: August 19, 2013 11:35AM

"Will Flint Hill soon"

FH has been pimping out the "scholarships" like candy for the past 3~4 years. Lots 'o' competition amongst the private schools these days

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: ConcreteRose ()
Date: August 19, 2013 12:55PM

There's more to life then winning a state championship. A state championship isn't a peak of ones life. Calm down you guys are being dramatic, what he chooses to do doesn't concern you all.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: The Concorde's ()
Date: August 19, 2013 12:57PM

ConcreteRose Wrote:
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> There's more to life then winning a state
> championship. A state championship isn't a peak of
> ones life. Calm down you guys are being dramatic,
> what he chooses to do doesn't concern you all.

Understood, but it sure does help if he's trying to play at the next level.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: betterdecision ()
Date: August 19, 2013 02:00PM

ConcreteRose Wrote:
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> There's more to life then winning a state
> championship. A state championship isn't a peak of
> ones life. Calm down you guys are being dramatic,
> what he chooses to do doesn't concern you all.

Who is advising this kid? You can go play for Flint Hill, a great school but below average football, re classify to be a Junior again, and hope the schools that were looking at you when you played for Centreville come around OR you play for a team that will probably play 14-15 games this year against the best talent in the state and have everyone watching you, coming to your practices and games. Get your offer from the school you were hoping to go to and start College next year. If for some reason you don't get an offer, you can do a prep year and get that extra year. Sounds like Coach V got in someone's ear and sold them on the lesser choice. Lets hope he has a good year, because if he doesn't, is he guaranteed another scholarship next year? if not who's going to pony up the 30K for tuition?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NOVABall ()
Date: August 19, 2013 06:53PM

Went to the Oakton vs. Hylton scrimmage at Madison HS last week. Oakton looked terrible and Hylton looked in midseason form. Hylton's starters scored on their first two possessions with ease mixing up the run with the passing game. The Oakton D-Line was very small compared to Hylton's O-Line and they were getting blown off the ball most of the game. On offense Oakton's QB was being forced to roll out of the pocket causing him to throw some awful looking passes. He was sacked three times in the first half. Oakton's O-Line couldn't stop Hylton's massive D-line from pushing them back, freeing up linebackers and safeties to make big plays. Oakton has one kid at runningback/fullback (#1) who will be their main threat this fall. He didn't have much running room at all that night and I think his biggest run came against second stringers on a fullback dive. Oakton only crossed the 50 three times the whole scrimmage and their drives all stalled after that. From talking with people there in the stands the final was Hylton 49 and Oakton 0.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: OHSFB ()
Date: August 20, 2013 01:36PM

You are right, Oakton did not look very good at all the other night - they actually were awful. And since I was at both games I can assure you they looked about as good as they did at this time last year when they also scrimmaged Hylton - just pathetic. Who knows... maybe both of these teams will again go on to play later in fall then any other team in their region.

Or perhaps this year will be different. C'ville could live up to all their hype (last year they slapped OHS silly and then lost the rubber-match); Westfield will go three deep at every position and run the table (last year they too lost their rubber-match with OHS after running the table); Robinson will return to past glory (ehh... no need for a rubber-match last year); and Henderson will dominate NR FB (OHS coaches actually enjoyed feeding the LB coaching staff a big piece of humble-pie for their class-less/smack-talking 2011 playoff sins).

I love how HS FB can be a very redemptive therapy! :-)

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NOVABall ()
Date: August 21, 2013 07:45AM

OHSFB,
Do you think Robinson will actually be able to turn the corner and regain their domination of Fairfax this quickly. I know they have a great Head Coach and a load of tallent, but will he actually be able to change all the wrong so quickly? Do you think Centreville and Lake Braddock are legit this year or do they look good only on paper?

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: Quit Posting Here ()
Date: August 21, 2013 09:56AM

Can everyone please quit posting here and use the High School Football 2013 thread instead!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: OHSFB ()
Date: August 21, 2013 10:16AM

Moving over to the 2013 HS Football blog.

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: notenough ()
Date: December 08, 2018 07:19PM

2012 again?!

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Re: High School Football
Posted by: NHPLB ()
Date: December 08, 2018 07:29PM

?????? Wrote:
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> "Will Flint Hill soon"
>
> FH has been pimping out the "scholarships" like
> candy for the past 3~4 years. Lots 'o' competition
> amongst the private schools these days


Took a little time but Verbanic has won back to back titles bitches!

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