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Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Unreals ()
Date: July 01, 2012 10:36PM

I expect few to agree with me here. I've learned to expect that, because each day we drift more and more into official Idiocracy status. I actually see a thread has been devoted here to "thanking" Dominion for their efforts. Uh, are you people living in the same area? Do you have the ability to reason?

I've lived in Fairfax County for over 50 years. The climate has not changed. We have always been subject to violent thunderstorms, with high winds. Nothing about the Friday night storm was unprecedented. What is unprecedented is the response. Well, more accurately the criminally negligent lack of response.

I have been out and about driving around the areas of Burke, Springrield and Fairfax, during the past few days. I have yet to see a single Dominion truck or a single worker "working to restore" anyone's power. Exactly WHERE are the people who are doing the work? Well, I did see two trucks, in my neighborhood. Saturday night, at app. 11:30 p.m., our power came on. Two minutes later, it was off. We thought, "great, they're finally working on our area." An hour and a half later, two Dominion trucks drove into our neighborhood. Again, we thought, "well, at leas they're here- it will be back on soon." The trucks left less than 30 minute later, without restoring our power.

There is no one to call. Dominion's "service" line is simply a recording saying they have no "estimates" for restoration of power. I would at least like an explanation for what the two trucks in my neighborhood were doing, and why they left without fixing our power. Since then, again we have seen no trucks or workers anywhere. Everyone I've talked to echoes my sentiments. One neighbor saw a few Dominion trucks in front of a 7-11, where the "workers" were drinking coffee and joking. That's as close as we've come to seeing these heroic figures in action.

Then there are our shining police officers. Traffic is naturally a madhouse, with many stop lights out. I have yet to see a single cop out there directing traffic. I guess it was too hot for these manly men and women. Too hot to even hide in the shade and try to nab speeders. Again, this is criminal negligence.

This area has been brought to a standstill by a violent thunderstorm. As we've seen nationally in recent years, with the disasters in Katrina and the Gulf, those who are in positions to lead us simply are incompetent beyond belief. They move at a snail's pace, and there is no public criticism of them. Ever. The mainstream media fawns over them, assuring those of us who know better that they are "working hard" to fix things for us. Uh, no they're not. They're incapable of doing as good a job as those in power fifty years ago were, when they were equipped with far inferior technology.

The fix was in early on this; right away, news stories inexplicably said "authorities" expected this to be a "multi day" restoration job. In the past, thunderstorms caused power to be down for hours, never days. Why is this expected now? More importantly, why it is accepted? First hand evidence shows no workers at the scene, anywhere (except to apparently flee the area without fixing anything, as was the case in my neighborhood). This is akin to the "work" of VDOT, when again their trucks were nowhere to be seen in a blizzard, unless one saw them sitting idly on the side of the road, or driving with their plows UP. And again, no media criticism there, either. And again, the same job was done far more effectively fifty years ago with inferior technology.

For the record, our neighborhood has all its power lines underground. Many neighborhoods without power still have underground lines. There is nothing new about the problem of restoring power; what has become so complex about it that it now takes so much longer to make the same repairs?

We are now officially a Third World nation. This is what happens in those countries. People accept it there, because that's the way it's always been. It hasn't always been this way, here, and those of us in this area ought to realize that quite clearly. We ought to expect better and we deserve a lot better.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: herplederp ()
Date: July 01, 2012 10:41PM

My power never even flickered. Taste it.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Rollin Coal ()
Date: July 01, 2012 10:42PM

I have not seen any cops either. It's all pretty fucked up. There are still tons of trees down on power lines and no one anywhere doing anything.

Fairfax INOVA has been on generators for 2 days, no phones either.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: How much do you want to pay? ()
Date: July 01, 2012 10:56PM

@OP: Fifty years ago this was not a county of one million people who are all hooked up to the internet, cell phones, etc.

I heard one lady on TV say: "We are completely isolated". Guess what? People lived in a "completely isolated" fashion not too many years ago and they survived. We did not always have 911, cell phones, and instant service. Heck, I remember having to drive my sister to the hospital in an emergency (in pre 911 days). We can expect more and think that we deserve more, but if we want the kind of service you are talking about, we are going to have to pay more. Are you willing to do that?

The utility companies here are limited in how much they can charge by the government. If they want a rate hike they have to get it approved by the government. It doesn't always happen. Maybe they get money when there is a state of emergency called by the government? I'm not sure how that works.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Rollin Coal ()
Date: July 01, 2012 11:02PM

How much do you want to pay? Wrote:
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> @OP: Fifty years ago this was not a county of one
> million people who are all hooked up to the
> internet, cell phones, etc.
>
> I heard one lady on TV say: "We are completely
> isolated". Guess what? People lived in a
> "completely isolated" fashion not too many years
> ago and they survived. We did not always have
> 911, cell phones, and instant service. Heck, I
> remember having to drive my sister to the hospital
> in an emergency (in pre 911 days). We can expect
> more and think that we deserve more, but if we
> want the kind of service you are talking about, we
> are going to have to pay more. Are you willing to
> do that?
>

Are you telling me the cost of making, maintaining and delivering the electricity has gone up? You're high. They serve more customers which means.....THEY MAKE MORE FUCKING MONEY. Go eat a dick.

> The utility companies here are limited in how much
> they can charge by the government. If they want a
> rate hike they have to get it approved by the
> government. It doesn't always happen. Maybe they
> get money when there is a state of emergency
> called by the government? I'm not sure how that
> works.

Again, they have more customers and are making a fuck ton of money off of all the shit you named. More off Internet, more of cell phones, more off electricity, more off fees and surcharges and they sure as fuck pay less in payroll than they should be paying based on the margins.

So again, please, old timer, eat a dick. I won't stand for your baloney.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Unreals ()
Date: July 01, 2012 11:11PM

@How much do you want to pay?- You are the type of citizen who is perfect for our Brave New World. You have the capacity to forget even the recent past, and to be inspired by all the vacuous "reporters" you've watched to formulate the kind of idiotic drivel you have here.

Technology is supposed to make things better. Easier. Things should be done faster. Fifty years ago, a violent thunderstorm in this area did not cause anyone to lose power for DAYS. Now, it is someone to be expected. And too many people are incapable of becoming irate about it, even as they swelter in 100 degree heat.

Those who are in charge of everything now, from the local level up, are totally and irreparably incompetent. Willfully incompetent, due to a corrupt system that wants this kind of inconvenience. Being literally powerless makes people even easier to control. This is another test case, to see how much we'll take before even complaining en masse, let alone openly revolting. We have not only become dumbed down, we are not a passive, docile group. Extremely easy to rule.

If you really think that having no visible presence in an area with thousands and thousands of homes without power is acceptable, and failing to resore power to everyone two days after a thunderstorm is acceptable, then what else can I say?

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Damn Penny Pinchers ()
Date: July 01, 2012 11:11PM

How much do you want to pay? Wrote:
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> @OP: Fifty years ago this was not a county of one
> million people who are all hooked up to the
> internet, cell phones, etc.
>
> I heard one lady on TV say: "We are completely
> isolated". Guess what? People lived in a
> "completely isolated" fashion not too many years
> ago and they survived. We did not always have
> 911, cell phones, and instant service. Heck, I
> remember having to drive my sister to the hospital
> in an emergency (in pre 911 days). We can expect
> more and think that we deserve more, but if we
> want the kind of service you are talking about, we
> are going to have to pay more. Are you willing to
> do that?
>
> The utility companies here are limited in how much
> they can charge by the government. If they want a
> rate hike they have to get it approved by the
> government. It doesn't always happen. Maybe they
> get money when there is a state of emergency
> called by the government? I'm not sure how that
> works.

This is the problem with most people on here, they don't understand you get what you pay for. These are the same people who spout off about high taxes, and then turn around and complain about how poorly maintained our roads are. If you don't like what you're getting, then you need to tell Dominion that you'd like to cough up the extra cash for some underground lines. With our aging infrastructure of high voltage transmission lines, outages like this are going to become more and more commonplace.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: July 01, 2012 11:11PM

How much do you want to pay? Wrote:
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> @OP: Fifty years ago this was not a county of one
> million people who are all hooked up to the
> internet, cell phones, etc.
>
> I heard one lady on TV say: "We are completely
> isolated". Guess what? People lived in a
> "completely isolated" fashion not too many years
> ago and they survived. We did not always have
> 911, cell phones, and instant service. Heck, I
> remember having to drive my sister to the hospital
> in an emergency (in pre 911 days). We can expect
> more and think that we deserve more, but if we
> want the kind of service you are talking about, we
> are going to have to pay more. Are you willing to
> do that?

In those days, businesses did not end based on decisions made with up to the minute data (or lack of it). There were not 1 million people living in Fairfax and if you didn't have food in your fridge you could go out and hunt the deer in your backyard. You would likely be prepared with a large stock of non-perishable food.
But nowadays, we live in a modern society where we can expect to have constant supply of electricity and thus refrigeration. The amount of money we pay for phone service (landline and wireless) should be enough to maintain equipment that keeps the phones working in case of power failure at a central office. Verizon would say otherwise, that they are not making enough money to cover installing backup generators, etc. But that is bullshit.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Unreals ()
Date: July 01, 2012 11:14PM

What are you talking about, "how much do you want to pay?" Do you live in a secret enclave, where electricity is cheap? Power rates are expensive. How much do you think we should have to pay in order to get service that is comparable to what existed fifty years ago here?

Again, you sheep astonish me. Do you just like incompetence? Are you corrupt yourselves in your personal or business lives? How can you possibly defend the total nonperformance of Dominion power in this situation?

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Slaernu ()
Date: July 01, 2012 11:44PM

Unreals...

You have to be trolling now. I replied to you in the other /thread where you claim we had a thunderstorm... Go buy a banjo and act out Deliverance.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Slaernu ()
Date: July 01, 2012 11:46PM

herplederp Wrote:
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> My power never even flickered. Taste it.


I would upvote you if I could. Instead, here is over 9000 Internets.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Unreals ()
Date: July 02, 2012 12:29AM

I answered you on the other thread.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Paymoregetnothing ()
Date: July 02, 2012 01:27PM

Unreals--I completely agree with your post. It was quite refreshing to read that, actually. I live in rural WV and it's the same thing. I shudder to think if this had been an actual hurricane going through that did REAL damage or a major catastrophic event. I have already made the decision that once the dust settles, I will be purchasing a diesel-powered electric start at least 10,000 watt generator--cannot afford to have refrigerators/freezers packed full of meat to go bad. Funny how we as customers can pay more and actually get less. Pathetic.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Fact Checker ()
Date: July 02, 2012 01:33PM

I'll give it to you and all the others straight...

1). VA power and all the other electrical companies have been fucking you for years. The profits they've been making have NOT been going back into upgrading and maintaining the existing infrastructure that has been in the ground, and at the substations for decades. This storm wasn't that bad really, it was the inadequate facilities that these utility companies that wasn't up to handling the load.

2). Several critical substations and junction points were overloaded and destroyed, resulting in several areas without power for a week or more. The infrastructure in some of those areas (Loudoun and Fairfax County) need to be rebuilt or replaced.

3). The power companies have contracted out for help in restoring these facilities, and there are people coming here from as far away as Texas to address the issues.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: VEPCOPEPCO ()
Date: July 02, 2012 01:34PM

Dominion reported about 250,000 customers without power across Virginia Monday.

More than 31,000 Dominion Virginia Power customers in the Richmond/Tri-Cities service area remained without electricity at last report Monday morning, down from about 60,000. In Northern Virginia, some 164,000 customers were still without electricity.

The utility company said Sunday that it may take another week for everyone who lost power to have their service restored.

The state's electric cooperatives together reported another 49,000 residents without power on Monday.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Stupid Poster ()
Date: July 02, 2012 01:39PM

Unreals is a cocksucking bitch who is extremely overweight and blames the loss of power and the high temperatures for his bitterness. In reality it is because he lost some good leftovers in the fridge, has failed to get any pussy in the last decade, and most likely has not bathed himself all weekend and smells like a fucking wild beast.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: The Assman ()
Date: July 02, 2012 01:45PM

Unreals and Stupid Poster, ass to ass!!!!

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: DirtMcGirt ()
Date: July 02, 2012 01:45PM

Not taking sides, but speaking from what I've seen over the past 48hrs. I haven't seen 1 DP truck or any contractor vehicle within a 5mile radius from my home in falls church. Also, haven't seen any cops directing traffic (saw a lot driving around though). Just sayn', shit was pretty serious & you'd *think* you'd at least see some utility trucks driving around. Only people I saw doing work we're residents.

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Re: Dominion Power Is Worse Than VDOT
Posted by: Warhawk ()
Date: July 02, 2012 01:48PM

Fact Checker Wrote:
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> I'll give it to you and all the others
> straight...
>
> 1). VA power and all the other electrical
> companies have been fucking you for years. The
> profits they've been making have NOT been going
> back into upgrading and maintaining the existing
> infrastructure that has been in the ground, and at
> the substations for decades. This storm wasn't
> that bad really, it was the inadequate facilities
> that these utility companies that wasn't up to
> handling the load.



This.

I know I've written this before, but back when gas went to $4/gallon the first time, Dominion raised rates to "account for higher operating expenses due to increased fuel costs" or some other line of bullshit. My average winter power bill went from $45 to $75. The corresponding summer bill went from $120 to $180. When gas crashed to $1.69, did my costs come down? FUCK NO. And it would appear that Dominion really didn't reinvest in their infrastructure, because yeah, the storm was windy but it really wasn't that bad.

I shudder to think what's going to happen when a hurricane actually hits this area, because it does happen. It's going to be like living in the 1800's for weeks. Which won't be so bad, but there will be 1 million people bitching about it.

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