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Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
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Cox Cable Question
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Date: June 26, 2012 09:57PM
I am canceling my Cox cable service. Too much free stuff online and Netflix and redbox can satisfy my movie hunger, and I can't see paying over $70 monthly for all of these channels I don't watch.
I plan to keep Cox internet though.
My condo is already wired and since I am going to get a broadcast digital antenna for sports and local news, can I run this to the cable that already delivers the internet?
The cable and internet share the same cable now, can the same cable share an internet and a broadcast TV signal? This will really save me a lot of hassle if I can just patch an antenna onto the same cable and avoid having indoor antennas on the TV's in the condo.
Any knowledge would be appreciated!
I plan to keep Cox internet though.
My condo is already wired and since I am going to get a broadcast digital antenna for sports and local news, can I run this to the cable that already delivers the internet?
The cable and internet share the same cable now, can the same cable share an internet and a broadcast TV signal? This will really save me a lot of hassle if I can just patch an antenna onto the same cable and avoid having indoor antennas on the TV's in the condo.
Any knowledge would be appreciated!
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
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Cox Cable Question
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Date: June 26, 2012 10:15PM
Dang!
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
Posted by:
Harry sax
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Date: June 26, 2012 10:34PM
Not going to happen. If you find a solution please post it.
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
Posted by:
CoxGobbler
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Date: June 27, 2012 08:29AM
Plug your coax feed that is going to your modem into your tv. If you have basic cable channels you should be able to get the locals with a clear QAM tuner. Thus you would not need the OTA antenna and could use the single coax feed..
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
Posted by:
Just stream
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Date: June 27, 2012 08:54AM
I was in the same situation, never home and when I was- I'd watch discovery or some documentary. I cancelled my $120ish FIOS and Comcast is running a special ($29/month for 20mb download) for internet only. I have everything streaming to the PS3 via TVersity and the PS3 has netflix built in already. I haven't missed anything. One can download entire movies in less than 20 minutes and episodes of shows like True Blood or Borgias are posted the next day via torrents online.
You only have one TV feed in the entire property? Have you tried plugging the modem line into the TV? If that works- just buy a splitter and split the signal (but it's been mentioned already). Otherwise, if you have a cool neighbor (next door or a few down), you can buy a remote broadcaster and plug the TV port into their feed.
You only have one TV feed in the entire property? Have you tried plugging the modem line into the TV? If that works- just buy a splitter and split the signal (but it's been mentioned already). Otherwise, if you have a cool neighbor (next door or a few down), you can buy a remote broadcaster and plug the TV port into their feed.
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
Posted by:
Cox Cable Question
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Date: June 27, 2012 08:59AM
CoxGobbler Wrote:
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> Plug your coax feed that is going to your modem
> into your tv. If you have basic cable channels
> you should be able to get the locals with a clear
> QAM tuner. Thus you would not need the OTA
> antenna and could use the single coax feed..
My current cable TV signal and internet connection share the same cable. My condo is wired already with wall outlets in the LR and BR. Currently I have a splitter w/ one cable going to the TV and the other to my wireless modem.
I have a first floor condo with trees behind me, so reception for over the air broadcast is not great with an indoor antenna. If I could put a small antenna somewhere on my balcony, I know I would get better reception, and if I could just feed it into the cable in the baclonys utility closet (the single cable that currently provides my cable/internet) I would save the hassle of seperate indoor antennas(which don't seem to work very well) or rewiring a new antenna cable through which I would I would like to avoid if at all possible.
I'm cutting off cable TV service at the end of the month for certain. It's a big waste of money and so many other ways to watch TV online. I just want to be able to have 4,5,7,9,26 etc for local news and sports.
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> Plug your coax feed that is going to your modem
> into your tv. If you have basic cable channels
> you should be able to get the locals with a clear
> QAM tuner. Thus you would not need the OTA
> antenna and could use the single coax feed..
My current cable TV signal and internet connection share the same cable. My condo is wired already with wall outlets in the LR and BR. Currently I have a splitter w/ one cable going to the TV and the other to my wireless modem.
I have a first floor condo with trees behind me, so reception for over the air broadcast is not great with an indoor antenna. If I could put a small antenna somewhere on my balcony, I know I would get better reception, and if I could just feed it into the cable in the baclonys utility closet (the single cable that currently provides my cable/internet) I would save the hassle of seperate indoor antennas(which don't seem to work very well) or rewiring a new antenna cable through which I would I would like to avoid if at all possible.
I'm cutting off cable TV service at the end of the month for certain. It's a big waste of money and so many other ways to watch TV online. I just want to be able to have 4,5,7,9,26 etc for local news and sports.
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
Posted by:
Cox Cable Question
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Date: June 27, 2012 09:13AM
Just stream Wrote:
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> I was in the same situation, never home and when I
> was- I'd watch discovery or some documentary. I
> cancelled my $120ish FIOS and Comcast is running a
> special ($29/month for 20mb download) for internet
> only. I have everything streaming to the PS3 via
> TVersity and the PS3 has netflix built in already.
> I haven't missed anything. One can download
> entire movies in less than 20 minutes and episodes
> of shows like True Blood or Borgias are posted the
> next day via torrents online.
I just opened my eyes to the streaming thing and hooked hdmi cables to my TV's. I surf the web on my flat screens now and watch programs on Hulu, Netflix and even Youtube. Plus some of the cable networks have archives they let you access if you watch their commercials.
> You only have one TV feed in the entire property?
> Have you tried plugging the modem line into the
> TV? If that works- just buy a splitter and split
> the signal (but it's been mentioned already).
> Otherwise, if you have a cool neighbor (next door
> or a few down), you can buy a remote broadcaster
> and plug the TV port into their feed.
I do have two cable wall jacks but I have only one cable that I tracked from my baclony utility room that goes into my condominium.. I can see there are other cables that run nextdoor and several flights up to other units. It looks tempting but I'm not trying to bootleg someone elses cable.
The modem line is the same line the cable signal comes in on, what I was hoping I could do was to feed the signal from a small outdoor antenna into the same line
(which I think is mine, not Cox's property, after it enters my utility closet) and receive over the air TV programming on the coaxial cable that also provides internet.
FIOS is available in my building but I never signed up and won't.But I think there is an agreement that FIOS,Cox and satellite TV share the same internal wiring in the units or the wiring is property of the unit owner.
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> I was in the same situation, never home and when I
> was- I'd watch discovery or some documentary. I
> cancelled my $120ish FIOS and Comcast is running a
> special ($29/month for 20mb download) for internet
> only. I have everything streaming to the PS3 via
> TVersity and the PS3 has netflix built in already.
> I haven't missed anything. One can download
> entire movies in less than 20 minutes and episodes
> of shows like True Blood or Borgias are posted the
> next day via torrents online.
I just opened my eyes to the streaming thing and hooked hdmi cables to my TV's. I surf the web on my flat screens now and watch programs on Hulu, Netflix and even Youtube. Plus some of the cable networks have archives they let you access if you watch their commercials.
> You only have one TV feed in the entire property?
> Have you tried plugging the modem line into the
> TV? If that works- just buy a splitter and split
> the signal (but it's been mentioned already).
> Otherwise, if you have a cool neighbor (next door
> or a few down), you can buy a remote broadcaster
> and plug the TV port into their feed.
I do have two cable wall jacks but I have only one cable that I tracked from my baclony utility room that goes into my condominium.. I can see there are other cables that run nextdoor and several flights up to other units. It looks tempting but I'm not trying to bootleg someone elses cable.
The modem line is the same line the cable signal comes in on, what I was hoping I could do was to feed the signal from a small outdoor antenna into the same line
(which I think is mine, not Cox's property, after it enters my utility closet) and receive over the air TV programming on the coaxial cable that also provides internet.
FIOS is available in my building but I never signed up and won't.But I think there is an agreement that FIOS,Cox and satellite TV share the same internal wiring in the units or the wiring is property of the unit owner.
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
Posted by:
justsayin
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Date: June 27, 2012 11:00AM
Just stream Wrote:
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> Comcast is running a
> special ($29/month for 20mb download) for internet
> only. I have everything streaming to the PS3 via
> TVersity and the PS3 has netflix built in already.
That is the crappiest deal I have ever read, 20MB would get you maybe a few minutes of Netflix.
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> Comcast is running a
> special ($29/month for 20mb download) for internet
> only. I have everything streaming to the PS3 via
> TVersity and the PS3 has netflix built in already.
That is the crappiest deal I have ever read, 20MB would get you maybe a few minutes of Netflix.
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
Posted by:
Viscount Monteforte d_Alsace
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Date: June 27, 2012 11:05AM
Cox Cable Question Wrote:
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> CoxGobbler Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Plug your coax feed that is going to your modem
> > into your tv. If you have basic cable channels
> > you should be able to get the locals with a
> clear
> > QAM tuner. Thus you would not need the OTA
> > antenna and could use the single coax feed..
>
>
> My current cable TV signal and internet connection
> share the same cable. My condo is wired already
> with wall outlets in the LR and BR. Currently I
> have a splitter w/ one cable going to the TV and
> the other to my wireless modem.
>
> I have a first floor condo with trees behind me,
> so reception for over the air broadcast is not
> great with an indoor antenna. If I could put a
> small antenna somewhere on my balcony, I know I
> would get better reception, and if I could just
> feed it into the cable in the baclonys utility
> closet (the single cable that currently provides
> my cable/internet) I would save the hassle of
> seperate indoor antennas(which don't seem to work
> very well) or rewiring a new antenna cable through
> which I would I would like to avoid if at all
> possible.
>
The trees aren't your problem. Being on the first floor and having an INDOOR antenna are your problems. VHF signals are, for the vast majority of situations, line of sight. By being down low you're taking a hit. By being indoors where there is a lot of "clutter" (wall studs, concrete, brick, possibly metal bar) makes matters worse.
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> CoxGobbler Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Plug your coax feed that is going to your modem
> > into your tv. If you have basic cable channels
> > you should be able to get the locals with a
> clear
> > QAM tuner. Thus you would not need the OTA
> > antenna and could use the single coax feed..
>
>
> My current cable TV signal and internet connection
> share the same cable. My condo is wired already
> with wall outlets in the LR and BR. Currently I
> have a splitter w/ one cable going to the TV and
> the other to my wireless modem.
>
> I have a first floor condo with trees behind me,
> so reception for over the air broadcast is not
> great with an indoor antenna. If I could put a
> small antenna somewhere on my balcony, I know I
> would get better reception, and if I could just
> feed it into the cable in the baclonys utility
> closet (the single cable that currently provides
> my cable/internet) I would save the hassle of
> seperate indoor antennas(which don't seem to work
> very well) or rewiring a new antenna cable through
> which I would I would like to avoid if at all
> possible.
>
The trees aren't your problem. Being on the first floor and having an INDOOR antenna are your problems. VHF signals are, for the vast majority of situations, line of sight. By being down low you're taking a hit. By being indoors where there is a lot of "clutter" (wall studs, concrete, brick, possibly metal bar) makes matters worse.
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
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Seriously?
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Date: June 27, 2012 11:06AM
justsayin Wrote:
> That is the crappiest deal I have ever read, 20MB
> would get you maybe a few minutes of Netflix.
I hope that was a joke: OP meant 20MB/sec nominal.
> That is the crappiest deal I have ever read, 20MB
> would get you maybe a few minutes of Netflix.
I hope that was a joke: OP meant 20MB/sec nominal.
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
Posted by:
Yes 20mb/sec
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Date: June 27, 2012 11:23AM
Yes I meant 20mbs. Apologies, but thought it was obvious.
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
Posted by:
justsayin
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Date: June 27, 2012 11:47AM
Seriously? Wrote:
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> justsayin Wrote:
> --------------------------------
> > That is the crappiest deal I have ever read, 20MB
> > would get you maybe a few minutes of Netflix.
>
> I hope that was a joke: OP meant 20MB/sec nominal.
Funny how those acronyms actually mean something and you have it wrong. He isn't getting 20MBs, the big-B means something a little different than a small-b (bytes per second vs bits per second).
> Yes 20mb/sec Wrote:
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> Yes I meant 20mbs. Apologies, but thought it was obvious.
You aren't downloading 20 megabytes (MB) a second. I think what you mean to write is "20 Mbps". When you write "20 MB" that would refer to a monthly data cap, which is why I raised the question as that is a laughably-low cap.
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> justsayin Wrote:
> --------------------------------
> > That is the crappiest deal I have ever read, 20MB
> > would get you maybe a few minutes of Netflix.
>
> I hope that was a joke: OP meant 20MB/sec nominal.
Funny how those acronyms actually mean something and you have it wrong. He isn't getting 20MBs, the big-B means something a little different than a small-b (bytes per second vs bits per second).
> Yes 20mb/sec Wrote:
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> Yes I meant 20mbs. Apologies, but thought it was obvious.
You aren't downloading 20 megabytes (MB) a second. I think what you mean to write is "20 Mbps". When you write "20 MB" that would refer to a monthly data cap, which is why I raised the question as that is a laughably-low cap.
Re: Cox Cable/Over the Air Broadcast Question
Posted by:
NotImpressed
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Date: June 27, 2012 12:33PM
justsayin Wrote:
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>
> You aren't downloading 20 megabytes (MB) a second.
> I think what you mean to write is "20 Mbps".
> When you write "20 MB" that would refer to a
> monthly data cap, which is why I raised the
> question as that is a laughably-low cap.
You're not as smart as you think you are. Sure, the OP mistakenly used MB instead of Mb. However, which is more likely what he is referring to: 20 MB/sec speed or 20 MB data limit / month?
Probably everyone but you knew he meant 20 Mb/sec.
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>
> You aren't downloading 20 megabytes (MB) a second.
> I think what you mean to write is "20 Mbps".
> When you write "20 MB" that would refer to a
> monthly data cap, which is why I raised the
> question as that is a laughably-low cap.
You're not as smart as you think you are. Sure, the OP mistakenly used MB instead of Mb. However, which is more likely what he is referring to: 20 MB/sec speed or 20 MB data limit / month?
Probably everyone but you knew he meant 20 Mb/sec.