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looks like whoever driving that red car is dead..............dunno yet - but it sure looks like it. from the cam shot, looks more like it happened NOT at the intersection but on that straight stretch between Braddock & Popes Head. Also looks like someone in a red car crossed the median somehow
Passed this on my way to work as they were taking the person out of the red car. Looked like they cut the roof off and when they lifted the person out they were completely obscured by tarps and blankets so I couldn't see.
My first thought as to the cause was that the driver of the red car was probably reading an e-mail or sending a text and drove off the road and into oncoming traffic. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
I can't express how mad it makes me to see all these people driving around looking down. I walk my dog every day after work and I watch the cars that pass me, 75% of them are looking down or are holding their phone up on top of the steering wheel and typing away. There isn't anything that you have to say that can't wait 10 minutes until you are stopped or out of your car. Texting and driving should carry the same penalty as DUI.
My Dad was almost in that accident. Actually he was two cars behind the cars that were hit. The drive in the red car was driving on the north bound lane and came over to the south bound lane and hit the two cars and spun out.
I don't think he was deceased, but was told his legs were crushed pretty badly. He needed the jaws of life and a few other tools to pull him out the car.
BMG Wrote:
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He needed the jaws of life and a few other tools to pull him out the car.
It did look bad but this statement doesnt mean a thing. Ive seen where the driver is fine (not even complaining of soreness) but "trapped" in a car, meaning the drivers door wont open. All other doors might function fine. The FD will cut the drivers door off. Guess training and someone else's expense....who knows.
I hope everyone (the innocent people) is ok in this.
rider007 Wrote:
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> Stupid cage drivers. Shouldn't be driving cars in
> this area, dangerous as hell. Should take the bus
> or train or motorcycles in FFX county.
yeah......cause there are just TONS of buses and trains come out to that part of the county, right?
And the soccer moms of Clifton prolly have too much cargo for a motorcycle
KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> WTOP had no mention of
> this at all but 92.5 mentioned it
Well duh, it was a Virginia incident. WTOP will report Pennsylvania traffic incidents if they think it may inconvenience a single Maryland resident who is considering driving that day.
average joe Wrote:
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> KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> > WTOP had no mention of
> > this at all but 92.5 mentioned it
>
> Well duh, it was a Virginia incident. WTOP will
> report Pennsylvania traffic incidents if they
> think it may inconvenience a single Maryland
> resident who is considering driving that day.
only fools and ppl interested in opinion still listen to 'TOP
if you want actual NEWS and info you go to the old 'HFS channel. - flip back to 'TOP at :07 and then flip back to 'HFS once their traffic report is over cause in like 2 minutes you get 'HFS's traffic report and theirs will have more info
Their traffic reporting sucks. I've had the same comute down 50 through Falls Church for 15 years and I don't think they have EVER reported an accident that immpacted traffic durring rush hour ( AM or PM ) in that area.
Did I somehow cause this by commenting on this horrible intersection in response to the 123/Clifton Motorcycle accident or since this area is full of Fairfax county drivers, was it just playing the odds? Still though, terrible spot to make a turn....
Re: Accident on 123 South near Burke Lake involving motorcycle
Posted by: Stones. ()
Date: June 05, 2012 01:19PM
In all fairness to the driver of the Hyundai, if there are also cars waiting to make a left onto Burke Lake from the other side of the road, it's almost impossible to see what's coming your way. Naturally, you don't pull out in front of what you can't see so that's not a huge excuse, but it sucks when you are waiting to make that kind of turn and you have impatient people behind you (who have a better view) honking their horn and such. Same thing goes for FFX Parkway and Popes Head.
@Nostradamus - dont feel to bad - I did the same thing yesterday. Justsayin had to teach me how to change the thread name cause when I first made it, I was all ready to rage up against the intersection before I saw the pics LoLz
Driver in the red car was 21yo son of a friend; not texting, not eating, not talking on the cellphone (unusual for many NOVA drivers). He swerved, overcorrected, swerved again, lost control and came across the median into oncoming traffic. Broken pelvis, cracked ribs, fractured vertebrae. Came out of surgery successfully, but will be in rehab 4-5 months. Lesson to all drivers - your life can change in an instant...
Nova Driver Wrote:
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> Driver in the red car was 21yo son of a friend;
> not texting, not eating, not talking on the
> cellphone (unusual for many NOVA drivers).
Any info on why he swerved so hard then?
Given there would be only one witness to that behavior, the denial of distraction by that one witness is suspect. Just sayin'.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/18/2012 12:58PM by justsayin.
Just sayin' wrote:
"Any info on why he swerved so hard then?
Given there would be only one witness to that behavior, the denial of distraction by that one witness is suspect. Just sayin'."
Parents believe he may have drifted and caught the edge of the road and thus swerved/overcorrected. Something someone with 20+ years of driving wouldn't do...
That is possible I guess, but I still don't get why an alert driver of any age would drift off the road. Even at 16 I don't think I would have jerked the wheel over if I touched the shoulder. I'm not saying the driver is a bad person or anything and I'm glad he will recover, I'm just trying to understand the cause of the incident.
@just - well, first we gotta know what the dude was doing up so early/later, know what I mean? It was 3/4ish when this happened. So where was he coming from and going to. If he's tired and nodding off, I can see him sliding off the road when it bends to the left after the Braddock ramp, then oversteering to the left when he wakes up and crossing the median then................
Gordon Blvd is right Wrote:
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> When will Virginia pass a law to make it illegal
> to use a cell while driving?
A cell can be accessed by many devices in a car... if your phone receives a text message for example, that is utilizing the mobile cell which covers a decent amount of geography at any time.
Even if you fully turn off a device, other devices such as OnStar are in constant communication via the cell. I seriously doubt Virginia will pass what you are advocating, making it illegal to drive many vehicles without a deactivation or removal of those devices.
The cell itself is just tower-based infrastructure that devices use... making them illegal around roads would mean first responders can't communicate, delivery trucks can't passively communicate with their transportation hubs, etc. Plus housing near roads wouldn't be able to use their mobile phones anymore.
This accident appeared to have been between a southbound car turning left and a north bound car. This is an extremely dangerous intersection for several reasons-- one of which is that motorists are often speeding in order to make it thru the intersection before the light turns red. Virginia no longer enforces speed limits.