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In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: theShadowToo ()
Date: June 07, 2012 04:52PM

A couple of paragraphs from this article should refresh your memory:

By September 2008, Springfield Mall was awash in crime. Its own Web site advised customers to “use caution when using ATM machines...There is safety in numbers...Lock your doors and windows when you get in and keep them locked.” Bosworth’s lawsuit lists page after page of felony assaults in the years prior to Bobbie’s abduction, and there was a gang-related homicide outside the Cerro Grande restaurant in December 2007.

Court records show that Springfield Mall general manager Michael Lowe warned Vornado that a gang war was brewing in Springfield and ”the Mall may easily become the chosen battlefield.” He wrote an e-mail to Vornado telling them that the Cerro Grande homicide was “directly linked to Cerro Grande’s operation as a nightclub catering to gang members, mostly SSL [South Side Locos] and MS 13 [Mara Salvatrucha].” Lowe said the restaurant’s own security guards wore masks “to hide their identify from their own patrons.”


I remember the days when this was a shopping and entertainment destination. No longer. It's now a place to be avoided at all costs.

Underline and bolding added for emphasis.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: MS--14 ()
Date: June 07, 2012 05:27PM

Wow, mang...eet's a good ting you posted dis, ese...you no post dis, peoples not know no go there, mang...

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Dicky Roberts ()
Date: June 07, 2012 05:52PM

Duhhh, we all know that Springfield is essentially Fairfax's asshole.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Clobbersaurus ()
Date: June 07, 2012 05:55PM

Whats the ratio of store to empty storefronts there now?

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: mgm ()
Date: June 07, 2012 06:40PM

They should rent the place out to some Hollywood studio. Let them film some kind of disaster movie in the joint. maybe hire some mexicans as extras

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Bill for Short ()
Date: June 07, 2012 08:12PM

That article is an interesting read. It referrs to the gang murder outside
Springfield Mall's Cerro Grande in 2007 where an MS-13 stabbed a rival. The former mall manager said the "restaurant" operated as a club at night catering to latin gangs. The security guards wore masks to hide their identites from patrons.

Cerro Grande used to be Slades American Grill. It shows that Springfield was so desparate they were catering to MS-13 for business.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Crystal Coones ()
Date: June 07, 2012 08:16PM

How about the part where the Sports Authority employee helped the thugs shoplift a pistol that was used in the kidnapping. Security camera showed them high fiving the employee as they left!

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Juan ()
Date: June 07, 2012 08:17PM

Sounds like they need to bring the Tippy's back!

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: william ()
Date: June 07, 2012 08:19PM

Bill for Short Wrote:
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> That article is an interesting read. It referrs to
> the gang murder outside
> Springfield Mall's Cerro Grande in 2007 where an
> MS-13 stabbed a rival. The former mall manager
> said the "restaurant" operated as a club at night
> catering to latin gangs. The security guards wore
> masks to hide their identites from patrons.
>
> Cerro Grande used to be Slades American Grill. It
> shows that Springfield was so desparate they were
> catering to MS-13 for business.

nuke the place.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Pohick Pete ()
Date: June 07, 2012 08:53PM

Good story, but why did the Post wait so long to address this issue.

Ten years ago, whenever longtime residents of this area complained about gangs at the Mall they were called culturally and racially insensitive. Meanwhile the Post was writing feature stories celebrating the fact that 15-year-old Latina girls were allowing themselves to get pregnent so their parents wouldn't force them to break up with their illegal immigrant boyfriends. They also wrote features about the right to pave over your front yard to expand the driveway so 14 people could live in a 3-bedroom house in Springfield.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Brian Crane ()
Date: June 07, 2012 09:16PM

I live for this!

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Reading is FUNdemental.............
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 07, 2012 09:20PM

Pohick Pete Wrote:
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> Good story, but why did the Post wait so long to
> address this issue.
>


did you even bother to read the article?

Bosworth’s husband, Tom Bosworth, filed a civil suit in 2010 against the owners of Springfield Mall (Vornado Realty Trust), the security company “guarding” the mall (Securitas Corp.) and the owners of the convenience store (PDQ Mart in Woodbridge), who did nothing to help Bobbie Bosworth while she was in obvious distress. The case presented a number of interesting angles on the issue of whether these businesses truly bore some responsibility for Bobbie’s death, as opposed to the actual kidnappers, 19-year-olds Lutchman Chandler (who also was killed in the crash) and Keith Baskerville, who was already severely mentally ill and is now in a state mental hospital.

The case was set for trial on Monday, but settled out of court late Wednesday.

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Re: Reading is FUNdemental.............
Posted by: Tim Phelps ()
Date: June 07, 2012 09:21PM

Elaborate please

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Time Out ()
Date: June 07, 2012 11:04PM

I want my Taco Laredo

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: theShadowToo ()
Date: June 08, 2012 08:36AM

MS--14 Wrote:
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> Wow, mang...eet's a good ting you posted dis,
> ese...you no post dis, peoples not know no go
> there, mang...

Thanks for the tip, homie. Just doing my due diligence to keep the spotlight on this shithole.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 08, 2012 08:40AM

@Tim: soooooooooooo +1 :)

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: dino dauphine ()
Date: June 09, 2012 02:46PM

Have not been to the mall since the late 80's. Are the big numbers still there?
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Springfield-Mall-05.jpg

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Mr 70's ()
Date: June 10, 2012 09:08PM

That mall died when Bathtique went out of business. Actually, all the great stores were there- Monkey Ward, Hong Kong (w/ bongs displayed in the front window), Spencer Gifts with Farrah posters, edible underwear and dildos. And puttputt golf across the street! I wish they'd bring the big bird cage back to Tysons.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: dino dauphine ()
Date: June 11, 2012 04:13AM

Mr 70's Wrote:
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> That mall died when Bathtique went out of
> business. Actually, all the great stores were
> there- Monkey Ward, Hong Kong (w/ bongs displayed
> in the front window), Spencer Gifts with Farrah
> posters, edible underwear and dildos. And puttputt
> golf across the street! I wish they'd bring the
> big bird cage back to Tysons.


Man, I forgot about Hong Kong.That place was awesome, they always had incense burning and they sold all types of cheap trashy little trinkets.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: McGruff - The Crime Dog! ()
Date: September 02, 2012 09:27AM

theShadowToo Wrote:
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> A couple of paragraphs from this article should
> refresh your memory:
>
> By September 2008, Springfield Mall was awash in
> crime. Its own Web site advised customers to
> “use caution when using ATM machines...There is
> safety in numbers...Lock your doors and windows
> when you get in and keep them locked.”
> Bosworth’s lawsuit lists page after page of
> felony assaults in the years prior to Bobbie’s
> abduction, and there was a gang-related homicide
> outside the Cerro Grande restaurant in December
> 2007.
>
> Court records show that Springfield Mall general
> manager Michael Lowe warned Vornado that a gang
> war was brewing in Springfield and ”the Mall may
> easily become the chosen battlefield.” He wrote
> an e-mail to Vornado telling them that the Cerro
> Grande homicide was “directly linked to Cerro
> Grande’s operation as a nightclub catering to
> gang members, mostly SSL and MS 13 .” Lowe said
> the restaurant’s own security guards wore masks
> “to hide their identify from their own
> patrons.”
>
> I remember the days when this was a shopping and
> entertainment destination. No longer. It's now a
> place to be avoided at all costs.
>
> Underline and bolding added for emphasis.

Husband of Bobbie Bosworth, Springfield Mall abduction victim, settles suit for $2.5 million
By Tom Jackman
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/husband-of-bobbie-bosworth-springfield-mall-abduction-victim-settles-suit-for-25-million/2012/08/29/ac366554-f210-11e1-adc6-87dfa8eff430_blog.html

The lawsuit by the husband of Bobbie Bosworth, who was abducted from Springfield Mall in 2008 and killed, was settled shortly before trial in June. Now, the amount of the settlement has been finalized: $2.5 million, to be paid by the owners of Springfield Mall and their insurers, and by the Woodbridge mini-mart where Bosworth was taken by her teenage abductors, one of whom also died in a subsequent car crash.

Tom Bosworth of Alexandria, Bobbie Bosworth’s husband of 24 years, filed suit in 2010 against Vornado Realty Trust, the owner of Springfield Mall; Securitas Corp., the company hired to guard the mall; and the owners of the PDQ Mini Mart, alleging that all three had a “duty of care” to their customers, and that Springfield Mall in particular allowed an “assaultive” climate to dominate the now-closed mall.

Securitas was dismissed from the case because it was not the owner and did not have a “special relationship” with the customers. But Vornado and PDQ could not get out, and so settled on the eve of trial.

According to court documents filed recently in Fairfax County Circuit Court, Vornado paid $2 million: $1.4 million from three different insurance companies, and $600,000 from Vornado itself. The PDQ Mart paid $500,000. In addition, State Farm, the Bosworth’s auto insurer, paid $100,000 in an earlier settlement, court records show.

The settlement amount was first reported by Virginia Lawyers Weekly.

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For the full backstory:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402196.html?sid=ST2008091501856

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/15/AR2008091501798.html?sid=ST2008091501856

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/the-springfield-mall-abduction-and-death-of-bobbie-bosworth-the-rest-of-the-story-part-1/2012/06/07/gJQAqVx0KV_blog.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/the-springfield-mall-abduction-and-death-of-bobbie-bosworth-the-rest-of-the-story-part-2/2012/06/07/gJQAXV57LV_blog.html



Barbara J. "Bobbie" Bosworth at a nature preserve in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. She was a renowned animal lover. She was killed after going to Springfield Mall to buy a pair of jeans. (courtesy of Thomas Bosworth)
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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: soon to be ()
Date: September 02, 2012 09:36AM

The county and Springfield Mall did a good job of playing down all the real crime happening at the Mall. I think it all the true stats were known it would have had to close even sooner. The thugs and drunken illegals made it the paradise it is today.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Jessicaaa ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:37PM

Did I stumble into stormfront? The illegal comments are so racist and probably coming from angry 'upper class middle income' lol fat white men and women. So it was 2 thugs from hoodridge but why does one look mixed black and white and the other looks asian with straight black hair? So why the blame on the latinos and blacks? The gangbangers are just poor people from el salvador who refused to stay in thier country after their civil war and came here by the thousands when the US gov granted them immunity.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Jessicaaa ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:41PM

OH and it is unfortunate what happened to Mrs. Bosworth she seemed like a sweet and caring lady. This type of crime however happens anywhere where criminals can hide like roaches and then attack their victim with little chance of getting caught they are in dark places like malls, the movies, parking lots, hidden jogging trails (talking to the white women who run late at night alone - very silly of them too.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: white guilt ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:44PM

"So why the blame on the latinos "

Fairfax County Police Officer Eddy Azcarate says a woman was walking to an apartment in the Springfield area around 6 p.m. Monday night when she says a man grabbed her from behind. When she turned around, the man ran off. She says he was wearing a dark hoodie and blue jeans. The incident happened in the 7200 block of Commerce Street. Azcarate say this appears to be the 10th reported case in Fairfax County since early September. Azcarate says the serial groper has been known to wear either a red hat or a bandana. Officers continue to investigate the serial groping case and are asking for tips from people in the area.

Azcarate advises people to try to be aware of their surroundings when out walking and look ahead and behind frequently. He also advises people to travel in pairs if they can and if they can't, have a cellphone ready. The suspect is described as a Hispanic man, with a medium build and black hair. He often wears a red cap.



Would it make you feel better if the cops blamed this on a white guy?

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: November 21, 2012 06:59PM

If you believe the local papers and the news, the Hispanics are by far the biggest sexual offenders around here.
Usually on a jogging trail, the description always seems to be Hispanic.
Is this a conspiricy by the white man, coincidence or maybe a cultural thing?

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: block head ()
Date: November 21, 2012 07:37PM

The papers all lie to make illegals look bad. It is a white mans consipiracy.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Rik ()
Date: November 30, 2013 10:57AM

Your a rasist bigget!

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Ralph Pootawn ()
Date: November 30, 2013 12:17PM

Rik Wrote:
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> Your a rasist bigget!


lulz

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: gerrymanderer2. ()
Date: November 30, 2013 03:05PM

white guilt Wrote:
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> "So why the blame on the latinos "
>
> Fairfax County Police Officer Eddy Azcarate says a
> woman was walking to an apartment in the
> Springfield area around 6 p.m. Monday night when
> she says a man grabbed her from behind. When she
> turned around, the man ran off. She says he was
> wearing a dark hoodie and blue jeans. The incident
> happened in the 7200 block of Commerce Street.
> Azcarate say this appears to be the 10th reported
> case in Fairfax County since early September.
> Azcarate says the serial groper has been known to
> wear either a red hat or a bandana. Officers
> continue to investigate the serial groping case
> and are asking for tips from people in the area.
>
> Azcarate advises people to try to be aware of
> their surroundings when out walking and look ahead
> and behind frequently. He also advises people to
> travel in pairs if they can and if they can't,
> have a cellphone ready. The suspect is described
> as a Hispanic man, with a medium build and black
> hair. He often wears a red cap.
>
>
>
> Would it make you feel better if the cops blamed
> this on a white guy?


Yes it would

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: sweetie ()
Date: December 01, 2013 02:02AM

Ya cause it seems that the only ones they offend are the dumb white girls who jog alone in a forest at 4am. Common sense for any woman is to jog in a public street or place.

BEH Wrote:
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> If you believe the local papers and the news, the
> Hispanics are by far the biggest sexual offenders
> around here.
> Usually on a jogging trail, the description always
> seems to be Hispanic.
> Is this a conspiricy by the white man, coincidence
> or maybe a cultural thing?

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Richard ()
Date: December 01, 2013 05:36AM

Rik Wrote:
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> Your a rasist bigget!


and you're a poor speller.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: yessir ()
Date: December 01, 2013 08:04AM

Hispanic is not a race.

Rik intentionally wrote "your a rasist bigget".
It's too obvious.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Sweetie ()
Date: December 01, 2013 12:34PM

arent most native american? so that is racist

yessir Wrote:
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> Hispanic is not a race.
>
> Rik intentionally wrote "your a rasist bigget".
> It's too obvious.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Mski ()
Date: November 21, 2015 06:05PM

See, here's the thing. It's absolutely right if they place the blame for the recent (or not so recent, three years later) serial gropings on a Hispanic guy because every single victim claims that a Hispanic guy groped them. What's not right is whitewashing all Latinos as sexual offenders simply because they're Latino.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Lookin ()
Date: November 21, 2015 07:20PM

I was thinking of moving to nothern Virginia, but I've some across several threads like this that make me think again. Is NOVA primarily composed of spics of niggers, or both. The mexicans are good for landscaping, but I'd rather not see some baggy pants down to the ass coon walking around.

To wit, where are the white areas in NOVA?

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: It's the same in Seattle ()
Date: November 21, 2015 07:36PM

Mski Wrote:
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> See, here's the thing. It's absolutely right if
> they place the blame for the recent (or not so
> recent, three years later) serial gropings on a
> Hispanic guy because every single victim claims
> that a Hispanic guy groped them.

Every seerial grope rturns out to be Mexican. What IS it with mexicans and groping?

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: I only post when Drunk ()
Date: November 21, 2015 07:44PM

I miss going there. Back in the 70-80's Eh, Fast Times.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Buh bye ()
Date: November 22, 2015 08:32AM

Springfield, and the entire county of Fairfax has become a violent, crime infested 3rd world hell hole.

America the great is fading away. Goodbye, you will be missed.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Paco ()
Date: November 22, 2015 08:33AM

It's the same in Seattle Wrote:
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> Mski Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > See, here's the thing. It's absolutely right if
> > they place the blame for the recent (or not so
> > recent, three years later) serial gropings on a
> > Hispanic guy because every single victim claims
> > that a Hispanic guy groped them.
>
> Every seerial grope rturns out to be Mexican. What
> IS it with mexicans and groping?

In that country the criminals are in charge because the corrupted police don't even respond to calls like that.

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Re: In case you need to be reminded why Springfield Mall needs to be razed
Posted by: Novaoo ()
Date: October 29, 2017 11:23AM

Whatever happened to Keith Baskerville from Woodbridge who abducted the woman crom Springfielf mall that died in the crash crash with him driving?

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