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Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Sprawl and Crawl
()
Date: May 12, 2012 09:33AM
Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
By Anita Kumar and Peyton M. Craighill, Published: May 10
The Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/silver-line-to-dulles-not-important-to-most-virginians-according-to-post-poll/2012/05/10/gIQATSiZFU_story.html?hpid=z5
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By Anita Kumar and Peyton M. Craighill, Published: May 10
The Washington Post
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Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Kardinal
()
Date: May 12, 2012 09:38AM
I have a feeling that question is a bit skewed. Do I care about a line to Dulles? Not really. Do I care about a line to Reston so people who live in Reston don't have to drive in to DC? Heck yes. Do I care about a line to Tysons to alleviate traffic there? Heck yes. But if you're going to run it to Reston anyway...might as well go to Dulles.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: May 12, 2012 09:42AM
@Kardinal - ppl dont take the subway to the airport.......not in America anyways LoLz
Monroe's as far as it needs to go to make $$$$$ (and common sense, anyways)
Monroe's as far as it needs to go to make $$$$$ (and common sense, anyways)
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Kardinal
()
Date: May 12, 2012 09:44AM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Kardinal - ppl dont take the subway to the
> airport.......not in America anyways LoLz
>
> Monroe's as far as it needs to go to make $$$$$
> (and common sense, anyways)
Funny, I've taken the Metro to DCA many times, and have seen hundreds of others do the same.
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> @Kardinal - ppl dont take the subway to the
> airport.......not in America anyways LoLz
>
> Monroe's as far as it needs to go to make $$$$$
> (and common sense, anyways)
Funny, I've taken the Metro to DCA many times, and have seen hundreds of others do the same.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
snowdenscold
()
Date: May 12, 2012 09:55AM
Who cares what people living in Danville think of the Silver Line?
When they pony up a disproportionate share of the state's revenue that doesn't come back, they can have a voice.
When they pony up a disproportionate share of the state's revenue that doesn't come back, they can have a voice.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
As usual
()
Date: May 12, 2012 10:10AM
So people want transportation improvements but don't want to pay for it. What else is new?
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: May 12, 2012 10:16AM
@Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of thousands upon thousands that will be needed for it to be the end-point destination of a line. DCA works out cause it's just one stop along the line, so that works. But the subway to Dulles is a red herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it out there OR fly into Dulles and then take a subway into the city. I've never in my life heard of someone flying into a city and taking the subway to their destination unless they maybe happened to live in that city.........and even then they take a cab or drive.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Kardinal
()
Date: May 12, 2012 10:17AM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of thousands
> upon thousands that will be needed for it to be
> the end-point destination of a line. DCA works
> out cause it's just one stop along the line, so
> that works. But the subway to Dulles is a red
> herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it out
> there OR fly into Dulles and then take a subway
> into the city. I've never in my life heard of
> someone flying into a city and taking the subway
> to their destination unless they maybe happened to
> live in that city.........and even then they take
> a cab or drive.
You may be right, Gordon...or you may be wrong. I'd want to see some evidence either way.
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> @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of thousands
> upon thousands that will be needed for it to be
> the end-point destination of a line. DCA works
> out cause it's just one stop along the line, so
> that works. But the subway to Dulles is a red
> herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it out
> there OR fly into Dulles and then take a subway
> into the city. I've never in my life heard of
> someone flying into a city and taking the subway
> to their destination unless they maybe happened to
> live in that city.........and even then they take
> a cab or drive.
You may be right, Gordon...or you may be wrong. I'd want to see some evidence either way.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Airborne82
()
Date: May 12, 2012 10:43AM
Extending Metrorail down Route 1 to Lorton and Woodbridge is more important to the regional economy than the Silver line to Leesburg. The people along Route 1 could use the 40,000 jobs and $77 billion in increased economic activity and property values that come with extending metrorail along a heavily populated corridor. How did Leesburg become more of a priority for the county and state than the hundreds of thousands of people living just south of Alexandria? Loudoun county Republicans don't want it so bring it to the communities that want, need and are willing to pay for it. Better to invest in extending Metro's Yellow line from the Huntsman station to Mount Vernon/Ft. Belvoir, Lorton and across the Occoquan to Woodbridge.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
FrequentFlyer
()
Date: May 12, 2012 10:48AM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of thousands
> upon thousands that will be needed for it to be
> the end-point destination of a line. DCA works
> out cause it's just one stop along the line, so
> that works. But the subway to Dulles is a red
> herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it out
> there OR fly into Dulles and then take a subway
> into the city. I've never in my life heard of
> someone flying into a city and taking the subway
> to their destination unless they maybe happened to
> live in that city.........and even then they take
> a cab or drive.
I've taken the metro DCA, i've also taken it to Greenbelt and got on a BUS to BWI before. Many people do this because they
1) Don't want to pay for parking if they are going to be gone for more then a week. It's around $80 for 1 week of parking in economy at any airport.
2) Don't have a car
3) Don't have anyone that can drive them.
4) Cab fair can be expensive depending on where you live. (for me over $60 round trip and thats in vienna)
5) IAD is the closet international airport to The Nations Capital. I would love to hear why tourist wouldn't use this.
6) I've took trains from the airport in seattle, seoul, tokyo, new york, and london, because out of all the options, it's the cheapest and fastest way of getting somewhere.
7) The silver line was planned to go PASS dulles airport 1 more stop. It's over 10 dollars to drive the greenway and dulles tollroad during rush hour round trip. A better option then driving into DC from ashburn. Plus you don't have to deal with traffic and 66 HOV.
8) Loundon County for the past couple of years has been ranked one of the fastest growing counties. More people = More Traffic, Silver line helps that a lot.
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> @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of thousands
> upon thousands that will be needed for it to be
> the end-point destination of a line. DCA works
> out cause it's just one stop along the line, so
> that works. But the subway to Dulles is a red
> herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it out
> there OR fly into Dulles and then take a subway
> into the city. I've never in my life heard of
> someone flying into a city and taking the subway
> to their destination unless they maybe happened to
> live in that city.........and even then they take
> a cab or drive.
I've taken the metro DCA, i've also taken it to Greenbelt and got on a BUS to BWI before. Many people do this because they
1) Don't want to pay for parking if they are going to be gone for more then a week. It's around $80 for 1 week of parking in economy at any airport.
2) Don't have a car
3) Don't have anyone that can drive them.
4) Cab fair can be expensive depending on where you live. (for me over $60 round trip and thats in vienna)
5) IAD is the closet international airport to The Nations Capital. I would love to hear why tourist wouldn't use this.
6) I've took trains from the airport in seattle, seoul, tokyo, new york, and london, because out of all the options, it's the cheapest and fastest way of getting somewhere.
7) The silver line was planned to go PASS dulles airport 1 more stop. It's over 10 dollars to drive the greenway and dulles tollroad during rush hour round trip. A better option then driving into DC from ashburn. Plus you don't have to deal with traffic and 66 HOV.
8) Loundon County for the past couple of years has been ranked one of the fastest growing counties. More people = More Traffic, Silver line helps that a lot.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
IhatedrivinginNOVA
()
Date: May 12, 2012 10:57AM
That poll sucks, why ask the entire state about a metro project that is only useful for people in the DC metro area. Include NOVA in the poll that says hampton and norfolk need more bridges and tunnels. See how that turns out.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
BBruhns
()
Date: May 12, 2012 11:42AM
I am amazed that this was even reported.
I mean, the FTA blunder in their July 3, 2011 White Paper, where they counted the price of the Rt 28 parking garage twice - once, with the other garages, and again along with the Rt 28 rail station cost - falsely inflating that cost to $136 million - was never reported. (Do a web search on ' Massively excessive costs in Dulles Rail Phase II Bruhns ' and you can see it in a blog on Patch, though.) Oh, and the financial audit announced on March 15, 2012, was never reported either. (Do a web search on ' Audit Initiated of Phase 2 of the Dulles Corridor Metrorail Project ' and you can see it on the DOT GOV website.)
So why did this poll get reported? I would have expected it to get covered up too. Has something changed?
I mean, the FTA blunder in their July 3, 2011 White Paper, where they counted the price of the Rt 28 parking garage twice - once, with the other garages, and again along with the Rt 28 rail station cost - falsely inflating that cost to $136 million - was never reported. (Do a web search on ' Massively excessive costs in Dulles Rail Phase II Bruhns ' and you can see it in a blog on Patch, though.) Oh, and the financial audit announced on March 15, 2012, was never reported either. (Do a web search on ' Audit Initiated of Phase 2 of the Dulles Corridor Metrorail Project ' and you can see it on the DOT GOV website.)
So why did this poll get reported? I would have expected it to get covered up too. Has something changed?
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Airborne82
()
Date: May 12, 2012 12:04PM
Poll Northern Virginians to see how much they care about the hundreds of millions of their taxes going towards building roads and bridges in Southern Virginia. If NoVa has to suffer tolls to fund roads then tax money from NoVa should not be going downstate.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
curious
()
Date: May 12, 2012 12:23PM
The metro should stop at Dulles-
If the politicians in Loudoun County don't want to pay for any additional stations, fine, we'll make them pay for it on the toll road-
No problem for me-
If the politicians in Loudoun County don't want to pay for any additional stations, fine, we'll make them pay for it on the toll road-
No problem for me-
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
alert4jsw
()
Date: May 13, 2012 11:35AM
Virginia is simply a microcosm of the red-blue split in the country. The "blue" areas of the country pay more in taxes than their areas receive in benefits, while the "red" areas receive more in benetits than they contribute. In Richmond, you can drive along six-lane highways that flow smoothly during "rush hour," and in much of the rest of the state, "rush hour congestion" means you might have to sit through two cycles of a traffic light, if it exists at all. If you live in those areas, why would you want to invest in a rail system for those "elite" Northern Virginians who, truth be told, you don't like very much?
This wouldn't be so bad if the "red" area weren't constantly carping about the evils of "guvment" and how "oppressed" they all are by it.
This wouldn't be so bad if the "red" area weren't constantly carping about the evils of "guvment" and how "oppressed" they all are by it.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
wapo sucks
()
Date: May 13, 2012 11:59AM
What a stupid poll. Why would anyone who doesnt live here care about a rail project? Why not ask people up here do they care about restrictions on planting corn in southwest Va.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
vancouver1999
()
Date: May 13, 2012 12:15PM
This "news" should enter journalism school halls of fame for what not to write. Good lord, a dramatic headline and a useless quote from some guy far away from here make up the heart of this story about funding Dulles Rail? Really? Maybe the Post will ask people in Georgia next if they agree or disagree. Could there be a more irrelevant exercise in polling and journalism than this trite? There's no journalistic value. Would love to hear editors explain how this made the cut. As others have suggested, how about a more compelling article asking us if we want to fund a giant interchange in Abingdon. We'd say no. They would say yes. See how that works?
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
QuotedForTruth
()
Date: May 13, 2012 12:25PM
snowdenscold Wrote:
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> Who cares what people living in Danville think of
> the Silver Line?
>
> When they pony up a disproportionate share of the
> state's revenue that doesn't come back, they can
> have a voice.
This.
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> Who cares what people living in Danville think of
> the Silver Line?
>
> When they pony up a disproportionate share of the
> state's revenue that doesn't come back, they can
> have a voice.
This.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
NVaSkeptic
()
Date: May 13, 2012 12:28PM
It's like anything else. If Gerry Connelly and his ilk want to make this a priority, they need to stop fund raising for a few minutes and sell the project to the rest of the state. When Harry Truman wanted an isolationist Congress to spend billions on a devastated Europe, he got in his car, drove down Pennsylvania Avenue, and spent whatever political capital he had to sell the Marshall Plan.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Sceptic2
()
Date: May 13, 2012 12:55PM
They ran out the proposed project to Dulles to get the federal money for Tysons Corner. Notice the federal government funds almost half of phase I.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Nova_Native
()
Date: May 13, 2012 01:31PM
Kardinal Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of
> thousands
> > upon thousands that will be needed for it to be
> > the end-point destination of a line. DCA works
> > out cause it's just one stop along the line, so
> > that works. But the subway to Dulles is a red
> > herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it out
> > there OR fly into Dulles and then take a subway
> > into the city. I've never in my life heard of
> > someone flying into a city and taking the
> subway
> > to their destination unless they maybe happened
> to
> > live in that city.........and even then they
> take
> > a cab or drive.
>
Evidently, you haven't done much traveling, especially business traveling, in the last, oh, 30 years or so in America. Along with huge numbers of other people, I've taken the "T" between Boston and Logan International, the New York subway to and from LaGuardia, MARTA in Atlanta back and forth to Hartsfield, the "EL" in Chicago to and from O'Hare, the Metro in Minneapolis to MSP, the Metro in Seattle to and from Sea-Tac, and BART between San Francisco and SFO. I've never been on these systems, but Denver's and Philadelphia's subways run to their airport as well. Even cities with light rail systems such as Dallas and Phoenix run trains to their airports. As I recall, all of the airport stations in these systems was a terminus, except New York. That's a lot of Americans.
If you go Dulles or DCA or even BWI between, say, Sunday evening and Friday evening, you'll note that a large number of people, maybe even the majority, boarding and deplaning are not weary natives returning from their Carnival Cruise or locals heading out to visit Aunt Sue in Indianapolis. They are business travelers who want to get to and from the region's business district, as quickly, conveniently, and cheaply as possible. Few want to rent a car and deal with the hassles of negotiating an unfamiliar city if at all possible. (Want to get a real sinking feeling? In this age of hour+ long security lines and reduced number of flights, try waiting at that "off airport" discount car rental place that you had to use because of the budget while they try to locate Clem, the shuttle bus driver.) Cabs are an expensive crap shoot.
Light Rail/subway service to the airport is a halmark of a world class city with a vibrant economy. What do we do? We make business travelers get in something called the "Washington Flyer" and, $42 later, they arrive at the West Falls Church Metro.
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of
> thousands
> > upon thousands that will be needed for it to be
> > the end-point destination of a line. DCA works
> > out cause it's just one stop along the line, so
> > that works. But the subway to Dulles is a red
> > herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it out
> > there OR fly into Dulles and then take a subway
> > into the city. I've never in my life heard of
> > someone flying into a city and taking the
> subway
> > to their destination unless they maybe happened
> to
> > live in that city.........and even then they
> take
> > a cab or drive.
>
Evidently, you haven't done much traveling, especially business traveling, in the last, oh, 30 years or so in America. Along with huge numbers of other people, I've taken the "T" between Boston and Logan International, the New York subway to and from LaGuardia, MARTA in Atlanta back and forth to Hartsfield, the "EL" in Chicago to and from O'Hare, the Metro in Minneapolis to MSP, the Metro in Seattle to and from Sea-Tac, and BART between San Francisco and SFO. I've never been on these systems, but Denver's and Philadelphia's subways run to their airport as well. Even cities with light rail systems such as Dallas and Phoenix run trains to their airports. As I recall, all of the airport stations in these systems was a terminus, except New York. That's a lot of Americans.
If you go Dulles or DCA or even BWI between, say, Sunday evening and Friday evening, you'll note that a large number of people, maybe even the majority, boarding and deplaning are not weary natives returning from their Carnival Cruise or locals heading out to visit Aunt Sue in Indianapolis. They are business travelers who want to get to and from the region's business district, as quickly, conveniently, and cheaply as possible. Few want to rent a car and deal with the hassles of negotiating an unfamiliar city if at all possible. (Want to get a real sinking feeling? In this age of hour+ long security lines and reduced number of flights, try waiting at that "off airport" discount car rental place that you had to use because of the budget while they try to locate Clem, the shuttle bus driver.) Cabs are an expensive crap shoot.
Light Rail/subway service to the airport is a halmark of a world class city with a vibrant economy. What do we do? We make business travelers get in something called the "Washington Flyer" and, $42 later, they arrive at the West Falls Church Metro.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
WestfieldDad
()
Date: May 13, 2012 02:47PM
Sceptic2 Wrote:
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> They ran out the proposed project to Dulles to get
> the federal money for Tysons Corner. Notice the
> federal government funds almost half of phase I.
They had intended to also go after federal funds for phase II. However, the projected ridership rates and changes in the federal funds criteria, made it extremely unlikely that they'd qualify. Once that became apparent, they decided to go it alone for phase II. Result is what we see today - a plan to get Toll Road users to pay for rail so business travelers to Dulles don't have to pay for the Flyer get to the District...
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> They ran out the proposed project to Dulles to get
> the federal money for Tysons Corner. Notice the
> federal government funds almost half of phase I.
They had intended to also go after federal funds for phase II. However, the projected ridership rates and changes in the federal funds criteria, made it extremely unlikely that they'd qualify. Once that became apparent, they decided to go it alone for phase II. Result is what we see today - a plan to get Toll Road users to pay for rail so business travelers to Dulles don't have to pay for the Flyer get to the District...
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
BpBp
()
Date: May 13, 2012 03:31PM
Nova_Native Wrote:
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--------------------------------
> -----
>
> Light Rail/subway service to the airport is a
> halmark of a world class city with a vibrant
> economy. What do we do? We make business
> travelers get in something called the "Washington
> Flyer" and, $42 later, they arrive at the West
> Falls Church Metro.
We do have light rail service to the airport. If it's all that important
why not fly out of Reagan National instead of Dulles?
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--------------------------------
> -----
>
> Light Rail/subway service to the airport is a
> halmark of a world class city with a vibrant
> economy. What do we do? We make business
> travelers get in something called the "Washington
> Flyer" and, $42 later, they arrive at the West
> Falls Church Metro.
We do have light rail service to the airport. If it's all that important
why not fly out of Reagan National instead of Dulles?
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Lester
()
Date: May 13, 2012 03:43PM
The Flyer shuttle will probably get you to the airport faster than rail even after the Silver Line. It goes door-to-door and uses the access road. A special surcharge for the airport stop may be the most equitable way to provide more funding.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Johnny Galt
()
Date: May 13, 2012 08:00PM
Kardinal Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of
> thousands
> > upon thousands that will be needed for it to be
> > the end-point destination of a line. DCA works
> > out cause it's just one stop along the line, so
> > that works. But the subway to Dulles is a red
> > herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it out
> > there OR fly into Dulles and then take a subway
> > into the city. I've never in my life heard of
> > someone flying into a city and taking the
> subway
> > to their destination unless they maybe happened
> to
> > live in that city.........and even then they
> take
> > a cab or drive.
>
>
> You may be right, Gordon...or you may be wrong.
> I'd want to see some evidence either way.
You must be new here. There are few certainties in life, but one certainty that is certain is that Gordon Blvd is a clueless retard. She doesn't know much and even less about Fairfax Co. Tell the bitch to fuck off and do not dignify her with responses to her guesses and dumbness. kthx.
-jg
p.s. Oh you mad cuz I'm stylin' on you?
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of
> thousands
> > upon thousands that will be needed for it to be
> > the end-point destination of a line. DCA works
> > out cause it's just one stop along the line, so
> > that works. But the subway to Dulles is a red
> > herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it out
> > there OR fly into Dulles and then take a subway
> > into the city. I've never in my life heard of
> > someone flying into a city and taking the
> subway
> > to their destination unless they maybe happened
> to
> > live in that city.........and even then they
> take
> > a cab or drive.
>
>
> You may be right, Gordon...or you may be wrong.
> I'd want to see some evidence either way.
You must be new here. There are few certainties in life, but one certainty that is certain is that Gordon Blvd is a clueless retard. She doesn't know much and even less about Fairfax Co. Tell the bitch to fuck off and do not dignify her with responses to her guesses and dumbness. kthx.
-jg
p.s. Oh you mad cuz I'm stylin' on you?
-
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Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
AirportMan
()
Date: May 14, 2012 12:28AM
BpBp Wrote:
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> Nova_Native Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> --------------------------------
> > -----
> >
>
>
> > Light Rail/subway service to the airport is a
> > halmark of a world class city with a vibrant
> > economy. What do we do? We make business
> > travelers get in something called the
> "Washington
> > Flyer" and, $42 later, they arrive at the West
> > Falls Church Metro.
>
> We do have light rail service to the airport. If
> it's all that important
> why not fly out of Reagan National instead of
> Dulles?
Dulles is a International Airport and Reagan is not.
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> Nova_Native Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> --------------------------------
> > -----
> >
>
>
> > Light Rail/subway service to the airport is a
> > halmark of a world class city with a vibrant
> > economy. What do we do? We make business
> > travelers get in something called the
> "Washington
> > Flyer" and, $42 later, they arrive at the West
> > Falls Church Metro.
>
> We do have light rail service to the airport. If
> it's all that important
> why not fly out of Reagan National instead of
> Dulles?
Dulles is a International Airport and Reagan is not.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Kardinal
()
Date: May 14, 2012 12:38AM
Johnny Galt Wrote:
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> Kardinal Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of
> > thousands
> > > upon thousands that will be needed for it to
> be
> > > the end-point destination of a line. DCA
> works
> > > out cause it's just one stop along the line,
> so
> > > that works. But the subway to Dulles is a
> red
> > > herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it
> out
> > > there OR fly into Dulles and then take a
> subway
> > > into the city. I've never in my life heard
> of
> > > someone flying into a city and taking the
> > subway
> > > to their destination unless they maybe
> happened
> > to
> > > live in that city.........and even then they
> > take
> > > a cab or drive.
> >
> >
> > You may be right, Gordon...or you may be wrong.
>
> > I'd want to see some evidence either way.
>
> You must be new here. There are few certainties in
> life, but one certainty that is certain is that
> Gordon Blvd is a clueless retard. She doesn't know
> much and even less about Fairfax Co. Tell the
> bitch to fuck off and do not dignify her with
> responses to her guesses and dumbness. kthx.
"Registered: 11/11/2008 02:25PM"
I've been around a while. Trolldom is common here, I know it.
I do admit I don't know all the players all the time.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/14/2012 12:39AM by Kardinal.
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> Kardinal Wrote:
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> > Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of
> > thousands
> > > upon thousands that will be needed for it to
> be
> > > the end-point destination of a line. DCA
> works
> > > out cause it's just one stop along the line,
> so
> > > that works. But the subway to Dulles is a
> red
> > > herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it
> out
> > > there OR fly into Dulles and then take a
> subway
> > > into the city. I've never in my life heard
> of
> > > someone flying into a city and taking the
> > subway
> > > to their destination unless they maybe
> happened
> > to
> > > live in that city.........and even then they
> > take
> > > a cab or drive.
> >
> >
> > You may be right, Gordon...or you may be wrong.
>
> > I'd want to see some evidence either way.
>
> You must be new here. There are few certainties in
> life, but one certainty that is certain is that
> Gordon Blvd is a clueless retard. She doesn't know
> much and even less about Fairfax Co. Tell the
> bitch to fuck off and do not dignify her with
> responses to her guesses and dumbness. kthx.
"Registered: 11/11/2008 02:25PM"
I've been around a while. Trolldom is common here, I know it.
I do admit I don't know all the players all the time.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/14/2012 12:39AM by Kardinal.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
BpBp
()
Date: May 14, 2012 09:41AM
AirportMan Wrote:
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> BpBp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Nova_Native Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > --------------------------------
> > > -----
> > >
> >
> >
> > > Light Rail/subway service to the airport is a
> > > halmark of a world class city with a vibrant
> > > economy. What do we do? We make business
> > > travelers get in something called the
> > "Washington
> > > Flyer" and, $42 later, they arrive at the
> West
> > > Falls Church Metro.
> >
> > We do have light rail service to the airport.
> If
> > it's all that important
> > why not fly out of Reagan National instead of
> > Dulles?
>
> Dulles is a International Airport and Reagan is
> not.
Then buy a house closer to Dulles and quit bitchin.
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> BpBp Wrote:
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> > Nova_Native Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > --------------------------------
> > > -----
> > >
> >
> >
> > > Light Rail/subway service to the airport is a
> > > halmark of a world class city with a vibrant
> > > economy. What do we do? We make business
> > > travelers get in something called the
> > "Washington
> > > Flyer" and, $42 later, they arrive at the
> West
> > > Falls Church Metro.
> >
> > We do have light rail service to the airport.
> If
> > it's all that important
> > why not fly out of Reagan National instead of
> > Dulles?
>
> Dulles is a International Airport and Reagan is
> not.
Then buy a house closer to Dulles and quit bitchin.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: May 14, 2012 09:49AM
Kardinal Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of
> thousands
> > upon thousands that will be needed for it to be
> > the end-point destination of a line. DCA works
> > out cause it's just one stop along the line, so
> > that works. But the subway to Dulles is a red
> > herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it out
> > there OR fly into Dulles and then take a subway
> > into the city. I've never in my life heard of
> > someone flying into a city and taking the
> subway
> > to their destination unless they maybe happened
> to
> > live in that city.........and even then they
> take
> > a cab or drive.
>
>
> You may be right, Gordon...or you may be wrong.
> I'd want to see some evidence either way.
Evidence the other way:
Atlanta's MARTA system (looks just like our Metro) - one of the lines ends at Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. Thousands of people use it every day, and I used it myself numerous times. It appeared to me that the riders were a good mix of tourists, students, business people, airport workers, military, others.
I would expect the same for the Silver line ending at IAD.
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @Kardinal - 100's, sure - not the ten of
> thousands
> > upon thousands that will be needed for it to be
> > the end-point destination of a line. DCA works
> > out cause it's just one stop along the line, so
> > that works. But the subway to Dulles is a red
> > herring. Not enough ppl are gonna ride it out
> > there OR fly into Dulles and then take a subway
> > into the city. I've never in my life heard of
> > someone flying into a city and taking the
> subway
> > to their destination unless they maybe happened
> to
> > live in that city.........and even then they
> take
> > a cab or drive.
>
>
> You may be right, Gordon...or you may be wrong.
> I'd want to see some evidence either way.
Evidence the other way:
Atlanta's MARTA system (looks just like our Metro) - one of the lines ends at Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. Thousands of people use it every day, and I used it myself numerous times. It appeared to me that the riders were a good mix of tourists, students, business people, airport workers, military, others.
I would expect the same for the Silver line ending at IAD.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
LOLyeahBusinessTraveler
()
Date: May 14, 2012 03:03PM
"Evidently, you haven't done much traveling, especially business traveling, in the last, oh, 30 years or so in America..." (followed by all those business travelers take the subway)
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Commuter
()
Date: May 14, 2012 03:07PM
Better question:
Would ANYONE ride it if the ticket price actually reflected the true costs of building and operating it, and it was not heavily subsidized by automobile and many other taxes on those who will never use it?
Would ANYONE ride it if the ticket price actually reflected the true costs of building and operating it, and it was not heavily subsidized by automobile and many other taxes on those who will never use it?
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
nowantstopay
()
Date: May 14, 2012 04:27PM
Commuter Wrote:
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> Better question:
>
> Would ANYONE ride it if the ticket price actually
> reflected the true costs of building and operating
> it, and it was not heavily subsidized by
> automobile and many other taxes on those who will
> never use it?
No, but no one pays the true cost of roads, so why should that change.
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> Better question:
>
> Would ANYONE ride it if the ticket price actually
> reflected the true costs of building and operating
> it, and it was not heavily subsidized by
> automobile and many other taxes on those who will
> never use it?
No, but no one pays the true cost of roads, so why should that change.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
Worst poll ever
()
Date: May 14, 2012 09:14PM
How many Northern Virginians would care about a new highway and bridge in Roanoke Virginia? Fewer than none. What a ridiculous poll. The editor should be fired for letting this nonsense go to print.
Re: Silver Line to Dulles not important to most Virginians, Post poll finds
Posted by:
jim143
()
Date: May 15, 2012 06:39AM
I don't understand why it keeps getting reported this way. Phase 2 of the Silver Line is going out to Ashburn, not just ending at Dulles. They have not changed that plan. Why does the media keep asking if Metro to Dulles is necessary when it's going further? I don't care much either way what happens but I'm sure there are people in Ashburn that will use it.