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Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: Horse Lover ()
Date: May 05, 2012 09:14AM

Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables
Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
by Kali Schumitz, Staff Writer
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20120504/NEWS/705049863/1076/Merkel-wins-close-Herndon-mayoral-race/Residents-fight-to-save-Woodlawn-Stables&template=fairfaxTimes

advertisement Mount Vernon area residents are rallying to save the Woodlawn Stables, a longtime community fixture that is threatened by a road widening project.

The privately-run stables are part of the Woodlawn Plantation, a 126-acre estate that was once part of George Washington’s Mount Vernon property. It now is owned by The National Trust for Historic Preservation, a nonprofit organization.

Frank Lloyd Wright’s Pope-Leighy House also was relocated from Falls Church to the Woodlawn property in the 1960s, after it was threatened with demolition because of the widening of Interstate 66.

Route 1, which runs through the Woodlawn property, is slated to be widened to accomodate the growing workforce at Fort Belvoir. As part of the most recent Department of Defense base realignment process, Fort Belvoir gained thousands of new employees from several defense agencies last fall, as well as a new hospital.

Federal transportation officials are in the process of determining the final alignment for the highway widening project. Woodlawn is not the only historic property that could be affected; the Woodlawn Baptist Church’s cemetery sits close to the road, making widening challenging.

Officials are considering several alignment options for the widening, one of which is a bypass that would cut through the stable property.

“There are pros and cons to both options. We don’t like either one, but we don’t have a whole lot of choice,” said Susan Hellman, acting director of Woodlawn.

Supporters of Woodlawn Stables quickly sprang into action last week when they heard the viability of the stables was threatened by the road widening.

“We treasure it. It’s got a very big connection with the community,” said Shelley Castle, a former student and one of the founders of Save Woodlawn Stables. “Everybody in the community went there, even if you weren’t part of the equestrian community.”

The facility stages horse shows and used to host polo matches.

In addition to being concerned about preserving a cherished community space, Castle said it would be difficult to find new homes for the equine residents of Woodlawn Stables. Some of the 50 horses there are privately-owned, but others are actively involved in the riding lesson program or are living out their retirement.

“We’re not saying we’re against widening Route 1, we just don’t want to see a business close down for no reason,” she said.

Save Woodlawn Stables has gathered more than 3,000 petition signatures so far, and the news has generated hundreds of emails to Mount Vernon District Supervisor Gerry Hyland (D).

Hyland said he also wants to see the stable facility be preserved, and is trying to arrange a meeting among the parties involved.

“It’s a special place,” Hyland said. “This has been a very important part of the community.”

In a statement, National Historic Trust President Stephanie Meeks said the bypass option meets the Federal Highway Administration’s reqiurement to minimize harm to historic properties.

“The southwest bypass alternative would cause less harm to the historic setting of Woodlawn, by moving Route 1 further away from the national historic landmark and other historic resources such as Woodlawn Baptist Cemetery and Grand View,” Meeks said.

She said that, if the road project affected the stable property, federal rules require the FHA pay for moving costs and other expenses to re-establish Woodlawn Stables at another location.

Shamus Ian Fatzinger/Fairfax County Times Victoria, 11, (left) and Krista Mitchell brush Delilah near the house of Otis Mason, built in 1865. The house stands on the grounds of Woodlawn Stables near Mount Vernon. The house and other historical buildings — once part of Woodlawn Plantation — sit in the middle of a proposed re-routing of Route 1. The stables have been in continuous operation at the current location since 1979.
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Re: Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 05, 2012 09:23AM

yes, yes - those are all pretty fields and horses and everything

but look - bottom line is I've been alive almost 4 decades now and Rt 1 still looks the same as it did when I was born - time's up, yo.

Wanna help the stables? Explain the other options for widening so we can debate it - but dont think this aint gonna happen cause 2 hrs on Richmond Highway is NOT COOL, YO!!!

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Re: Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: Uncle Smartypants ()
Date: May 05, 2012 09:45AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> yes, yes - those are all pretty fields and horses
> and everything
>
> but look - bottom line is I've been alive almost 4
> decades now and Rt 1 still looks the same as it
> did when I was born - time's up, yo.
>
> Wanna help the stables? Explain the other options
> for widening so we can debate it - but dont think
> this aint gonna happen cause 2 hrs on Richmond
> Highway is NOT COOL, YO!!!

Okay, then what would you do?

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Re: Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 05, 2012 04:19PM

well , if it's up to me, 1 is widened six lane limited 95 to Hybla, 2 lane service roads where feasible. But I can only dream. Anywho, The horses can move out to Colchester and Gunston, yo. PUH-LENTY of space there. 7-11 near my house opened around 1979 and it closed a couple years ago and we've survived just fine so will the horses. We got an ENTIRE SMALL TOWN full of people going to be added to that roadway in a few months and we are using a highway designed when people knew why it is called a "dial" tone, and the idea of telling people about paying for television would have been, oddly enough, gotten you called a communist LoLz.

Different world, yo. Horses gotta giddiyup cause we got ppl a-comin'.......................

pic unrelated.............unless you recognize it...............happened overnight prettymuch. Pike was always bad but now it's a nightmare thru there, yo do not need that here sorry horses but you'll like the new farm the grass is just as sweet, air prolly cleaner than the side of Richmond Effing Highway anyways.............
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Re: Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: charley pride ()
Date: May 05, 2012 04:24PM

The only way I will support anything on RT 1 is if they bring back the strip clubs and redneck bars.

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Re: Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: Uncle Smartypants ()
Date: May 06, 2012 09:48AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> well , if it's up to me, 1 is widened six lane
> limited 95 to Hybla, 2 lane service roads where
> feasible. But I can only dream. Anywho, The
> horses can move out to Colchester and Gunston, yo.
> PUH-LENTY of space there. 7-11 near my house
> opened around 1979 and it closed a couple years
> ago and we've survived just fine so will the
> horses. We got an ENTIRE SMALL TOWN full of
> people going to be added to that roadway in a few
> months and we are using a highway designed when
> people knew why it is called a "dial" tone, and
> the idea of telling people about paying for
> television would have been, oddly enough, gotten
> you called a communist LoLz.
>
> Different world, yo. Horses gotta giddiyup cause
> we got ppl a-comin'.......................
>
> pic unrelated.............unless you recognize
> it...............happened overnight prettymuch.
> Pike was always bad but now it's a nightmare thru
> there, yo do not need that here sorry horses but
> you'll like the new farm the grass is just as
> sweet, air prolly cleaner than the side of
> Richmond Effing Highway anyways.............

Maybe it would be better if we went back to horses. Didn't have that much traffic back then in the city right? If the horses got backed up, we'd just ride them through the fields to get home. Either that or everyone gets 4x4s and huffs 'em over the hills. LOLZ

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Re: Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 06, 2012 10:23AM

so with horses, trespassing on other's land is ok?
dont think that would work out so well, "Hoss"

LoLz

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Re: Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 06, 2012 12:52PM

It wasn't considered trespassing Gordon. If you ever go to Washington's childhood home across from Fredricksburg you may hear that his family was not too happy about people passing over their property in order to get to the ferry across the river to town. Since it was perfectly legal they had to put up with it. In England the definition of criminal trespass in the countryside is far narrower than in urban or suburban U.S.

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Re: Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: snowdenscold ()
Date: May 06, 2012 03:40PM

Uncle Smartypants Wrote:
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>
> Maybe it would be better if we went back to
> horses. Didn't have that much traffic back then in
> the city right? If the horses got backed up, we'd
> just ride them through the fields to get home.
> Either that or everyone gets 4x4s and huffs 'em
> over the hills. LOLZ


The problem with horses in cities, as explained in Superfreakonomics (IIRC) was the massive amounts of maneur everywhere. Like snow on teh side of the roads after a blizzard - only all the time. Apparently, if the automobile hadn't come along and replaced them, it could have been disastrous.

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Re: Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: Public hearing ()
Date: May 06, 2012 03:45PM

Will there be a public hearing on this? Please keep us posted via this thread.

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Re: Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: Rute Boye ()
Date: May 06, 2012 04:06PM

There have already been public meetings, and more will be held in the future. You can find the Federal Highway Administration web page(s) on the project by at:

http://www.efl.fhwa.dot.gov/projects/environment.aspx

Scroll down to the project at the second from the bottom of the page named
"US Route 1 Improvements At Fort Belvoir, Virginia"

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Re: Residents fight to save Woodlawn Stables - Route 1, which runs through historic property, is slated to be widened
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 06, 2012 04:37PM

@Bill - I dunno about all that, but the rules have most DEFINITELY changed since then. LoLz

p.s. I'm sure Washington and his fam getting pissed off about not being able to legally do anything about ppl coming all up on their sh*t like that was maybe one of the reasons he fought that same UK a while back, y'know? Maybe one of the reasons we have trespass laws today, for all I know...........

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