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Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
RESton Peace
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Date: March 29, 2008 03:13PM
Hey all, I was wondering if anyone can help me understand why, when I go to a store an buy alcohol, if I have another person with me, that person also gets ID'd...
Can someone point to a law that says stores must do this? Or are local stores just overprotecting themselves from liability? I have found that some stores do and some don't, and this uneven enforcement is bullshit.....
Can someone point to a law that says stores must do this? Or are local stores just overprotecting themselves from liability? I have found that some stores do and some don't, and this uneven enforcement is bullshit.....
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
Radiophile
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Date: March 29, 2008 05:42PM
First tell the high school girls you are buying beer for to wait outside the 7-11. And second invite Gravis to the party.
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Posted by:
inkahootz
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Date: March 29, 2008 06:20PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2010 08:39PM by inkahootz.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2010 08:39PM by inkahootz.
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
Lurker..
()
Date: March 29, 2008 11:42PM
RESton Peace Wrote:
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> Hey all, I was wondering if anyone can help me
> understand why, when I go to a store an buy
> alcohol, if I have another person with me, that
> person also gets ID'd...
>
> Can someone point to a law that says stores must
> do this? Or are local stores just overprotecting
> themselves from liability? I have found that some
> stores do and some don't, and this uneven
> enforcement is bullshit.....
If the clerk sees an exchange of money, the clerk can ask for both ID's. For example you get to the counter and a buddy hands you a five or ten to pitch in for the beer. Other than that I don't see a law that says all people around you have to be carded.
Perhaps it falls under contributing to the delinquency of a minor, but even then every Mom who buys a bottle of wine with her kid present in line would be in the same boat.
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> Hey all, I was wondering if anyone can help me
> understand why, when I go to a store an buy
> alcohol, if I have another person with me, that
> person also gets ID'd...
>
> Can someone point to a law that says stores must
> do this? Or are local stores just overprotecting
> themselves from liability? I have found that some
> stores do and some don't, and this uneven
> enforcement is bullshit.....
If the clerk sees an exchange of money, the clerk can ask for both ID's. For example you get to the counter and a buddy hands you a five or ten to pitch in for the beer. Other than that I don't see a law that says all people around you have to be carded.
Perhaps it falls under contributing to the delinquency of a minor, but even then every Mom who buys a bottle of wine with her kid present in line would be in the same boat.
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
Mofo
()
Date: March 30, 2008 01:48AM
They used to do the same shit in CA when I was younger, even when we would just be standing in the alcohol isle.
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
Helladult
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Date: March 30, 2008 01:57AM
I was at Wegmans just after the gym with my girlfriend. We ran in to get a few things for dinner and a bottle of wine. I'm 31 and she is 26; i grabbed my wallet and she came allong without an id. The cashier ask for both of our ids and I explained that I was purchasing the wine and my GF didnt have an ID on her. They tried to refuse and I demanded a manager.... the mgr after a firm scalding gave in. PERIOD! eff'em. Bullshit all over it.
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
cc
()
Date: March 30, 2008 09:42AM
Helladult Wrote:
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> I was at Wegmans just after the gym with my
> girlfriend. We ran in to get a few things for
> dinner and a bottle of wine. I'm 31 and she is
> 26; i grabbed my wallet and she came allong
> without an id. The cashier ask for both of our ids
> and I explained that I was purchasing the wine and
> my GF didnt have an ID on her. They tried to
> refuse and I demanded a manager.... the mgr after
> a firm scalding gave in. PERIOD! eff'em. Bullshit
> all over it.
had a similar experience at safeway with my roommate on superbowl sunday. she's 25, i'm 22. the cashier saw us talking to each other (she was buying beer and snacks, i was buying a frozen pizza) and tried to ID both of us, i told her i wasn't "with" her and that she couldn't ID me. she said the safeway people tell them to do that..i think she's just a tool.
the west ox rd safeway is full of ballbusters when it comes to ID for tobacco, alcohol, etc. i understand they're just doing their job, but gimme a break.
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> I was at Wegmans just after the gym with my
> girlfriend. We ran in to get a few things for
> dinner and a bottle of wine. I'm 31 and she is
> 26; i grabbed my wallet and she came allong
> without an id. The cashier ask for both of our ids
> and I explained that I was purchasing the wine and
> my GF didnt have an ID on her. They tried to
> refuse and I demanded a manager.... the mgr after
> a firm scalding gave in. PERIOD! eff'em. Bullshit
> all over it.
had a similar experience at safeway with my roommate on superbowl sunday. she's 25, i'm 22. the cashier saw us talking to each other (she was buying beer and snacks, i was buying a frozen pizza) and tried to ID both of us, i told her i wasn't "with" her and that she couldn't ID me. she said the safeway people tell them to do that..i think she's just a tool.
the west ox rd safeway is full of ballbusters when it comes to ID for tobacco, alcohol, etc. i understand they're just doing their job, but gimme a break.
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
merchant
()
Date: March 30, 2008 10:20AM
Because of idiots like this:
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/85780.html
It's an age restricted item. The merchants reserve the right to refuse a sale to anyone for any reason. If they get caught selling to an underaged person the ABC board may revoke their ABC permit for a while and levy a fine, both of which are very costly to them. This is something that they would rather not deal with.
There are three basic ways to deal with this:
* Either make sure everyone on your group has their ID when purchasing an age restricted item
* Shop somewhere else
* Drink water
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/85780.html
It's an age restricted item. The merchants reserve the right to refuse a sale to anyone for any reason. If they get caught selling to an underaged person the ABC board may revoke their ABC permit for a while and levy a fine, both of which are very costly to them. This is something that they would rather not deal with.
There are three basic ways to deal with this:
* Either make sure everyone on your group has their ID when purchasing an age restricted item
* Shop somewhere else
* Drink water
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
RESton Peace
()
Date: March 30, 2008 12:35PM
merchant, don't be a tool. I am just looking for a quote of an actual law that says stores MUST do this. I will assume by your smug little response that you have no clue what the actual law is, so shut the fuck up.
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
merchant
()
Date: March 30, 2008 02:35PM
RESton Peace Wrote:
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> merchant, don't be a tool. I am just looking for
> a quote of an actual law that says stores MUST do
> this. I will assume by your smug little response
> that you have no clue what the actual law is, so
> shut the fuck up.
There is no law that says we MUST do it. There are, however, laws which state we cannot serve or sell alcohol to persons under 21 years of age. We have an obligation to obey the law and an obligation to protect ourselves. That means we must ID people, whether they like it or not. The ABC board and local law enforcement agencies conduct stings all the time. If we sell to someone under age we open ourselves up to criminal prosecution (for the person who sold the age restricted item) and civil penalties in the form of fines and ABC license suspension. Why can't you understand that?
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> merchant, don't be a tool. I am just looking for
> a quote of an actual law that says stores MUST do
> this. I will assume by your smug little response
> that you have no clue what the actual law is, so
> shut the fuck up.
There is no law that says we MUST do it. There are, however, laws which state we cannot serve or sell alcohol to persons under 21 years of age. We have an obligation to obey the law and an obligation to protect ourselves. That means we must ID people, whether they like it or not. The ABC board and local law enforcement agencies conduct stings all the time. If we sell to someone under age we open ourselves up to criminal prosecution (for the person who sold the age restricted item) and civil penalties in the form of fines and ABC license suspension. Why can't you understand that?
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
trogdor!
()
Date: March 30, 2008 03:34PM
RESton Peace Wrote:
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> Hey all, I was wondering if anyone can help me
> understand why, when I go to a store an buy
> alcohol, if I have another person with me, that
> person also gets ID'd...
>
> Can someone point to a law that says stores must
> do this? Or are local stores just overprotecting
> themselves from liability? I have found that some
> stores do and some don't, and this uneven
> enforcement is bullshit.....
Here's another interesting question. Why is it you can go to Giant/Safeway/Etc and buy "cooking wine" that's like 14% alcohol, but there's no ID check.
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> Hey all, I was wondering if anyone can help me
> understand why, when I go to a store an buy
> alcohol, if I have another person with me, that
> person also gets ID'd...
>
> Can someone point to a law that says stores must
> do this? Or are local stores just overprotecting
> themselves from liability? I have found that some
> stores do and some don't, and this uneven
> enforcement is bullshit.....
Here's another interesting question. Why is it you can go to Giant/Safeway/Etc and buy "cooking wine" that's like 14% alcohol, but there's no ID check.
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
Lurker..
()
Date: March 30, 2008 03:39PM
If the person buying the alcohol is 21 or over, why does a cashier need to card any person other than the purchaser? That's the VA law we are looking for and can't find.
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
Lurker..
()
Date: March 30, 2008 03:43PM
trogdor! Wrote:
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> RESton Peace Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey all, I was wondering if anyone can help me
> > understand why, when I go to a store an buy
> > alcohol, if I have another person with me, that
> > person also gets ID'd...
> >
> > Can someone point to a law that says stores
> must
> > do this? Or are local stores just
> overprotecting
> > themselves from liability? I have found that
> some
> > stores do and some don't, and this uneven
> > enforcement is bullshit.....
>
> Here's another interesting question. Why is it you
> can go to Giant/Safeway/Etc and buy "cooking wine"
> that's like 14% alcohol, but there's no ID check.
LOL! True, but ever drank cooking wine? You'll be puking every where.
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> RESton Peace Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey all, I was wondering if anyone can help me
> > understand why, when I go to a store an buy
> > alcohol, if I have another person with me, that
> > person also gets ID'd...
> >
> > Can someone point to a law that says stores
> must
> > do this? Or are local stores just
> overprotecting
> > themselves from liability? I have found that
> some
> > stores do and some don't, and this uneven
> > enforcement is bullshit.....
>
> Here's another interesting question. Why is it you
> can go to Giant/Safeway/Etc and buy "cooking wine"
> that's like 14% alcohol, but there's no ID check.
LOL! True, but ever drank cooking wine? You'll be puking every where.
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
Mofo
()
Date: March 30, 2008 06:24PM
Just drink mouth wash, you'll get drunk off that too. Though you may damage an organ, oh wait, you can do that normal alcohol too.
Re: Alcohol Purchase Identification Rules
Posted by:
trogdor!
()
Date: March 30, 2008 07:24PM
Helladult Wrote:
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> I was at Wegmans just after the gym with my
> girlfriend. We ran in to get a few things for
> dinner and a bottle of wine. I'm 31 and she is
> 26; i grabbed my wallet and she came allong
> without an id. The cashier ask for both of our ids
> and I explained that I was purchasing the wine and
> my GF didnt have an ID on her. They tried to
> refuse and I demanded a manager.... the mgr after
> a firm scalding gave in. PERIOD! eff'em. Bullshit
> all over it.
I had this same thing happen happen at a drugstore in New Orleans. And they seem way too lax about alcohol.
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> I was at Wegmans just after the gym with my
> girlfriend. We ran in to get a few things for
> dinner and a bottle of wine. I'm 31 and she is
> 26; i grabbed my wallet and she came allong
> without an id. The cashier ask for both of our ids
> and I explained that I was purchasing the wine and
> my GF didnt have an ID on her. They tried to
> refuse and I demanded a manager.... the mgr after
> a firm scalding gave in. PERIOD! eff'em. Bullshit
> all over it.
I had this same thing happen happen at a drugstore in New Orleans. And they seem way too lax about alcohol.