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Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Empty-Boxes ()
Date: March 12, 2008 06:24AM

I have been completely and utterly disgusted by the fear mongering coming from both the Hillary Clinton camp as well as the Republican party.

They are doing everything they can to paint Barack Obama as a Muslim in the hopes that ignorant, racist Americans will take the bait. Unfortunately there is a population of people in the United States who are biting and being taken hook, line and sinker.

Some of these people call themselves Christians and I say to you hypocrites, you are to the Christian faith, the equivalent to what suicide bombers are for Islam. (Which is to say, you’re a shameful example of what you supposedly believe.)



This photo of Barack Obama wearing traditional Somali clothing was taken when he visited Kenya in 2006. And as a good guest to that country he accepted the gift that was given to him and tried it on. It’s called diplomacy.



What’s the big deal? Why are we not being bombarded by this image of Hillary wearing hijab?



Or how about President Bush in Chilean garb?



Here’s Bill Clinton in a Jewish Yarmulke.



And here is First Lady, Laura Bush, wearing a chador.

Chances are, you haven’t seen these photos before. Ever ask yourself why then, you have been seeing Barack Obama in traditional Somali garb all over the news? It’s called a smear campaign. It’s called fear mongering. It can be called a lot of fancy things but basically it’s called hate and ignorance and it should not be tolerated.

Then there was the photo of Barack Obama standing at attention, but with his hand not covering his heart, while the national anthem was sung. Some have incorrectly said that it was during the Pledge of Allegiance. Here is proof, it was during the anthem. The video shows Obama actually singing along at one point. How is that unpatriotic?

Besides, chances are you’ve never seen this photo:


That’s George H.W. Bush standing without his hand on his heart, also during the National Anthem. Where was the big hoopla surrounding this?

Now, some members of the Republican party have taken to calling Barack Obama by his full name which is “Barack Hussein Obama”. When accused of purposefully playing on people’s fears and the connotation the name “Hussein” has with the Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, the Republicans smirk and say, “Well, it’s his legal name? What’s the big deal?”

The big deal is that the name is being used with evil intentions. American people, you are being played like a fiddle at a hoedown. Obviously the Republican party has no respect for any of you. They use these tactics because they think you’re stupid enough to fall for them. They think you will look at the photo of Obama and his middle name and draw the conclusion that he’s Muslim. They also think that you are racist and hateful enough to then not vote for him based on that assumption.

Well, are you?

I’m sad to say that a lot of you are complete idiots. You’re a disappointment to your country and your religion. You do not stand for what this country was founded on, or what your religion teaches you.

CNN reported on this issue and as I read the comments on the story I was shocked at the outright racism and ignorance people were proud to show off.

Here are a few of those comments:

“Obama’s middle name scares the heck out of me. I do not trust this man.”

“He’s obvious [sic] got something to hide. I personally think he is a secret Muslim.”

“Barack Hussein Obama is his real name, right? So, what’s the problem…? Exactly…my next President, if I can help it, won’t have Hussein as his middle name and he won’t have ties to Muslim beliefs.”

“i have never been a muslim” obama - pardon my ignorance - but how did he get the middle name - hussein”

Are you kidding me with this? Seriously? Seriously. These are my fellow Americans? My 6 year old is more intelligent than the lot of you!

There was one commenter who got it right. She said,

“I am SOOO tired of people talking about Obama’s middle name. If you judge a guy based on the name his parents gave him you’re an idiot and you shouldn’t even be allowed to vote. Seriously… I wish they had IQ tests at the polls….

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 12, 2008 06:52AM

post this kind of stuff in the off-topic forum

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: iceman ()
Date: March 12, 2008 08:09AM

Lets face it. The only reason Hussein is in the running is becuase he is black. He would stand no chance if he was a white guy. And lets face it, he is half muslim and his middle name is hussein no matter how much he would like to cover it up. That is the truth. Lets all forget the turban heads and give him the whitehouse. What next, have OBL run for Virginia's governor. Pathetic.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Synapse ()
Date: March 12, 2008 08:29AM

Empty Boxes ...did you work this up or did your friends at Hussein Headquarters?

If I searched, would I find this masterpiece posted in any forum allowing free advertising.

And, btw, it should be in off topic.

And, "empty boxes" is how your ballot sheet will appear next November for Hussein.

And, the Dems should have come up with better choices....your tough luck.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Fast Eddie ()
Date: March 12, 2008 09:55AM

Hey wait a minute. I recognize those towels around Obama's head. They were
from the Mayflower!

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Harry Beaver ()
Date: March 12, 2008 10:02AM

ROFL

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 13, 2008 07:32PM

good original post...followed mostly by the typical string of typical 20 something white male comments!

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Fired Clinton Campaign Manager ()
Date: March 13, 2008 08:17PM

iceman Wrote:
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> Lets face it. The only reason Hussein is in the
> running is becuase he is black. He would stand no
> chance if he was a white guy. And lets face it, he
> is half muslim and his middle name is hussein no
> matter how much he would like to cover it up. That
> is the truth. Lets all forget the turban heads and
> give him the whitehouse. What next, have OBL run
> for Virginia's governor. Pathetic.


Obama is a Christian and has been one for 23 years. Hillary and McCain are the ones feeding the ruined economy, getting are boys killed overseas and charging us $4.00 dollars for gas.

Gotta love that Hillary has all her aides and her "husband" doing her mud slinging campaign and then she says "I had nothing to with that." Hillary do you really think Americans are that stupid?

Thanks

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: reality ()
Date: March 13, 2008 08:23PM

Fired Clinton Campaign Manager Wrote:
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> iceman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lets face it. The only reason Hussein is in the
> > running is becuase he is black. He would stand
> no
> > chance if he was a white guy. And lets face it,
> he
> > is half muslim and his middle name is hussein
> no
> > matter how much he would like to cover it up.
> That
> > is the truth. Lets all forget the turban heads
> and
> > give him the whitehouse. What next, have OBL
> run
> > for Virginia's governor. Pathetic.
>
>
> Obama is a Christian and has been one for 23
> years. Hillary and McCain are the ones feeding the
> ruined economy, getting are boys killed overseas
> and charging us $4.00 dollars for gas.
>
> Gotta love that Hillary has all her aides and her
> "husband" doing her mud slinging campaign and then
> she says "I had nothing to with that." Hillary do
> you really think Americans are that stupid?
>
> Thanks


he's christian, thats FINE i dont CARE
what do i care about? things that matter - such as War, healthcare, economy, etc.

this war costs over $3000 second

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: March 13, 2008 08:31PM

Gosh, I did a quick Google search and found several mass murderers named George......

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: March 13, 2008 10:17PM

Some people would say the current president is a mass murderer.

yes, Hillary and Bill realize that some Americans are racist and easily convinced by Obama's middle name that they should vote Hillary.

However, (IMO) it is likely that is Hillary is elected she will be assassinated. A lot of people are opposed to a female president (including all of the people in the middle east) and that is refleced by the educated population voting Obama or another cantidate.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Lopter ()
Date: March 13, 2008 11:29PM

I just don't like how under handed and shifty Hillary is in her campaign. We certainly don't need her in the White House, she can't even answer a simple question with a straight answer.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Raj ()
Date: March 17, 2008 08:49AM

RACIST RACIST RACIST!! Lets shout it really loud! Its fun and easy to call Americans names isnt it? especially caucasians because their rebutall is ignored one the accusation laid.
This word is a communist keyword used to marginalize a group of people. The good news is its so over done people dont give a rats ass anymore if you shriek it hystericlly. You socialist liberal are the real haters, allways using names and smear to influence everything when facts are against you. Its actually funny because now its so overused the Democrats are accusing each other of it.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 17, 2008 09:55AM

this guy is selling his trailer, just in case u r interested...

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/75010/75654.html


Raj Wrote:
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> RACIST RACIST RACIST!! Lets shout it really loud!
> Its fun and easy to call Americans names isnt it?
> especially caucasians because their rebutall is
> ignored one the accusation laid.
> This word is a communist keyword used to
> marginalize a group of people. The good news is
> its so over done people dont give a rats ass
> anymore if you shriek it hystericlly. You
> socialist liberal are the real haters, allways
> using names and smear to influence everything when
> facts are against you. Its actually funny because
> now its so overused the Democrats are accusing
> each other of it.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: grunt ()
Date: March 17, 2008 02:43PM

Fuck Iraq , Fuck Middle East. Just take it of the fucking map and be done with it and now I wouldnt feel bad for killing their women and children. What do you think the extremist are going to teach their childrent to do when they grow up. Just kill of them, it will be cheap and efficient. We will find a seven eleven employee replacement. Before I get called racist, PLEASE TELL ME ONE GOOD THING THAT ANY FUCKING MIDDLE EASTERN BROUGHT TO AMERICA?

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: moby dick's house of ()
Date: March 17, 2008 02:45PM

KABOB

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: grunt is an idiot ()
Date: March 17, 2008 02:47PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventions_in_the_Islamic_world

grunt is a certified idiot. its people like you that makes people around the world hate us. thats all you're ever gonna be, a grunt. while everyone else is evolving into hunters and elites, you'll be a grunt.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Riley44 ()
Date: March 17, 2008 02:49PM

Civilization.

the first city ever was Ur, which happens to be only a couple hundred miles away from baghdad

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: grunt ()
Date: March 17, 2008 02:50PM

You mean the dried up meat with an oversized peace of bread that they charge $15?

I will vote for Hillary, anyone but Obama. I mean no shit he is going to say he is Christian around this time but ofcourse we believe anything we see on TV. I mean fuck hard facts, a man on tv said otherwise so he must be right

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: gravis likes teh cock ()
Date: March 17, 2008 02:50PM

grunt Wrote:
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> Fuck Iraq , Fuck Middle East. Just take it of the
> fucking map and be done with it and now I wouldnt
> feel bad for killing their women and children.
> What do you think the extremist are going to teach
> their childrent to do when they grow up. Just kill
> of them, it will be cheap and efficient. We will
> find a seven eleven employee replacement. Before I
> get called racist, PLEASE TELL ME ONE GOOD THING
> THAT ANY FUCKING MIDDLE EASTERN BROUGHT TO
> AMERICA?

you are an extremist. you're just like them, except on the other side. jackass

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 17, 2008 02:53PM

grunt Wrote:
>> TELL ME ONE GOOD THING THAT ANY FUCKING MIDDLE EASTERN BROUGHT TO AMERICA?

Oil. Lucrative defense contracts. Hummus.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: grunt ()
Date: March 17, 2008 02:53PM

yea did you forget when a giant fucking plane drove through a building with people, killing thousands??? Oh did we forget that already? I mean it didnt effect you directly so its not a big deal, right? Oh my bad I forgot BUSH DID IT. The only way this will be over is to nuke the fucking country and be done with it but no lets wait until 1000 of more troops die.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: grunt ()
Date: March 17, 2008 02:54PM

Did we forget what caused the war to start you fucking moron???

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: so? ()
Date: March 17, 2008 02:57PM

grunt Wrote:
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> Did we forget what caused the war to start you
> fucking moron???


the hijackers were all Saudi
why are we in Iraq? u remember that attack on the british subways? they werent iraqi either. we havent really decreased the amount of terrorism going on. i dont feel any safer, cuz Iraqi's arent trying to attack our homeland.

in afghanistan things havent changed much either. that country has no hope- i swear its just like it was back in the 1500s, nothings changed-no electricity no modern technology, nothing

(except guns, which were supplied by the US by during the formation of the mujahideen)

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Lopter ()
Date: March 17, 2008 02:59PM

grunt Wrote:
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> yea did you forget when a giant fucking plane
> drove through a building with people, killing
> thousands??? Oh did we forget that already? I mean
> it didnt effect you directly so its not a big
> deal, right? Oh my bad I forgot BUSH DID IT. The
> only way this will be over is to nuke the fucking
> country and be done with it but no lets wait until
> 1000 of more troops die.

wow you must be one of the most thick-headed people i've ever seen on Fairfax Underground

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Iraqi person ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:02PM

my family is from Iraq. i was born here, but my parents were from there. and they have no plans to ever go back. the situation isnt getting better. Listen, the longer we're there, the longer the violence will exist.

collapsing the Iraqi government has caused nothing but Chaos. Iraq has become a breeding ground for Islamic Extremism and violence (believe me, it wasnt like that a couple years ago). That's not to say Saddam and his regime weren't bastards, they were, but this wasn't necessary.

the best thing we can do right now is just leave. you say "support the troops". if you really supported them, you'd want them to LIVE - and you would not support this war. all we're doing now is sending troops to needlessly die in a country who's government never attacked us, and neither did its people.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: grunt ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:03PM

Hm what are we doing in Iraq? Then tell me why is it thousands of our own troops die? Why are they killing our soldiers? Why are there suicide bombers? Why are some of my friends are dead?

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:07PM

grunt Wrote:
>> yea did you forget when a giant fucking plane drove through a building with people, killing thousands???

So we should blame an entire race of people for the actions of only a few?

I'm embarrassed to even live in the same country as people like you. Let's get rid of you guys first.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: gravis likes teh cock ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:07PM

i dont know.

they're killing our soldiers because the majority of Islamic leaders in Iraq are extremists. The leaders are telling the brainwashed people to attack Americans. Thats the way it is in most countries with Islamic Extremism. The leaders use American presence to justify this violence towards our troops.

Remove our presence, remove the justification of violence, decrease the overall violence towards the innocent civilians. (violence will always be there though because the country is in Civil War and Sunni-Shia conflicts are inevitable, plus the gov't we setup isnt very effective).

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: truth ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:13PM

so? Wrote:
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> grunt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Did we forget what caused the war to start you
> > fucking moron???
>
>
> the hijackers were all Saudi
> why are we in Iraq? u remember that attack on the
> british subways? they werent iraqi either. we
> havent really decreased the amount of terrorism
> going on. i dont feel any safer, cuz Iraqi's arent
> trying to attack our homeland.
>
> in afghanistan things havent changed much either.
> that country has no hope- i swear its just like it
> was back in the 1500s, nothings changed-no
> electricity no modern technology, nothing
>
> (except guns, which were supplied by the US by
> during the formation of the mujahideen)

its crazy that everyone praises Reagan so much, when it was HIS ADMINISTRATION which approved the whole movement which encouraged Islamic violence.

it was Charlie Wilson and his crew which went to Afghanistan and started this idea of "religious warriors" (in this specific case), and supplied the Afghans with rocket launchers and machine guns and such. Bin Laden was part of this Afghan army against the Soviets.

It was to fight the Soviets, who were brutally slaughtering innocent Afghans with their helicopters and such. But then when the soviets collapsed, the weapons remained in the hands of Afghans.

seeing nothing to do with them, a bunch of shit occurred leading to the formation of militant groups like the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Grunt ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:14PM

gravis likes teh cock Wrote:
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> Remove our presence, remove the justification of
> violence, decrease the overall violence towards
> the innocent civilians. (violence will always be
> there though because the country is in Civil War
> and Sunni-Shia conflicts are inevitable, plus the
> gov't we setup isnt very effective).


Are you kidding me? Remove our presence? They kill thousand of innocent
citizens without feeling any remorce and we are just supposed to withdraw??
So if I walked into your house and killed your family, you would just forgive me right? This being on the larger scale, yes we will have our own casualties but we are there for a reason and no way in hell is America going to just "withdraw".


Meeper you say that we shouldnt judge an entire country based on few people actions? Ok, so why is that when our troops got deployed they started killing our soldiers by the dozen???

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: truth ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:15PM

and the Islamic extremism spread towards all parts of the Middle East, and 30 years later, it came back and bit us in the butt (9/11).

and then the war in afghanistan began (which hasnt been THAT much of a success, but it has a just cause at least), but then Bush somehow used this to justify the IRAQ war (WTF? unrelated)

and here we are 5 years later, and Iraq is in a state of Epic Fail. Pakistan is, too, actually. And who was the leading supplier of the weapons? PAKISTAN

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: gravis likes teh cock ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:17PM

Grunt Wrote:
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> gravis likes teh cock Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Remove our presence, remove the justification
> of
> > violence, decrease the overall violence towards
> > the innocent civilians. (violence will always
> be
> > there though because the country is in Civil
> War
> > and Sunni-Shia conflicts are inevitable, plus
> the
> > gov't we setup isnt very effective).
>
>
> Are you kidding me? Remove our presence? They kill
> thousand of innocent
> citizens without feeling any remorce and we are
> just supposed to withdraw??
> So if I walked into your house and killed your
> family, you would just forgive me right? This
> being on the larger scale, yes we will have our
> own casualties but we are there for a reason and
> no way in hell is America going to just
> "withdraw".
>
>
> Meeper you say that we shouldnt judge an entire
> country based on few people actions? Ok, so why is
> that when our troops got deployed they started
> killing our soldiers by the dozen???

WHO IS "THEY" YOU FUCKTARD? there are two MAIN groups of terrorists in iraq, Shia, and Sunni (yes theres others , but Sunni/Shia violence is most prominent), and THEYRE GOING TO KEEP KILLING EACH OTHER WHETHER WE'RE THERE OR NOT.

EXCEPT IF WE'RE NOT THERE, THEN AMERICAN SOLDIERS WONT DIE
look at a map you freaking moron, you think its all just "US vs Them"? i've never talked to such a mind-numbingly stupid person on Fairfax Underground as you, Grunt.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: gravis likes the cock ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:19PM

NEITHER OF WHICH ATTACKED US ON 9/11 (that was Al-Qaeda)

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: grunt ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:24PM

looks like you know your terrorist groups very well. Once again America will not withdraw. You dont walk into this country kill thousands and then expect to walk away and blame it on our own president. Here is an idea, if you dont want us to be there, maybe its time to overthrow your own government and stop killing our soldiers THEN we will withdraw

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:26PM

Grunt Wrote:
> > Meeper you say that we shouldnt judge an entire country based on few people actions? Ok, so why is that when our troops got deployed they started killing our soldiers

Ummm, maybe because we invaded them? They were getting attacked by our soldiers on their own soil, you don't expect them to defend themselves and counter-attack? What were you expecting, a fucking festival?

Seriously dude, at least think a little bit.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Grunt ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:27PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Grunt Wrote:
> > > Meeper you say that we shouldnt judge an
> entire country based on few people actions? Ok, so
> why is that when our troops got deployed they
> started killing our soldiers
>
> Ummm, maybe because we invaded them? They were
> getting attacked by our soldiers on their own
> soil, you don't expect them to defend themselves
> and counter-attack? What were you expecting, a
> fucking festival?
>
> Seriously dude, at least think a little bit.


Once again DID YOU FORGET WHY WE INVADED THEM????? fuck!!!

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: gravis likes teh cock ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:28PM

grunt Wrote:
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> looks like you know your terrorist groups very
> well. Once again America will not withdraw. You
> dont walk into this country kill thousands and
> then expect to walk away and blame it on our own
> president. Here is an idea, if you dont want us to
> be there, maybe its time to overthrow your own
> government and stop killing our soldiers THEN we
> will withdraw

they're not going to agree with that. who are we dealing with in Iraq? these are largely uneducated brainwashed terrorists who only understand one thing (killing). In fact, this goes the same with the Taliban. Al-Qaeda is a little different in that its members ARE educated, but they're still quite brainwashed.

if you want to get revenge for 9/11, then target Al-Qaeda specifically. I would say focus on Afghanistan, but i'm sure those terrorist groups have moved elsewhere since we got distracted by Iraq.

so my idea is: BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. all troops come home, US govt rethinks this whole thing.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: truth ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:29PM

Grunt Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Grunt Wrote:
> > > > Meeper you say that we shouldnt judge an
> > entire country based on few people actions? Ok,
> so
> > why is that when our troops got deployed they
> > started killing our soldiers
> >
> > Ummm, maybe because we invaded them? They were
> > getting attacked by our soldiers on their own
> > soil, you don't expect them to defend
> themselves
> > and counter-attack? What were you expecting,
> a
> > fucking festival?
> >
> > Seriously dude, at least think a little bit.
>
>
> Once again DID YOU FORGET WHY WE INVADED THEM?????
> fuck!!!

why did we invade them? even the bush administration can't answer that.
my guess? OIL

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Grunt ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:32PM

gravis likes teh cock Wrote:
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>
> they're not going to agree with that. who are we
> dealing with in Iraq? these are largely uneducated
> brainwashed terrorists who only understand one
> thing (killing).

Well, perhaps thats how we should deal with them. Let's wait for another attack right? You said it yourself they only understand killing, withdrawning is not going to stop terrorism and pehaps future attacks on America. It will only be a temporary fix

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:35PM

grunt Wrote:
>> maybe its time to overthrow your own government and stop killing our soldiers THEN we will withdraw

Yes, we should require them to overthrow the government we are there trying to create, as a condition of our withdrawal. That is one brilliant plan. ;/

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: truth ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:38PM

Grunt Wrote:
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> gravis likes teh cock Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > they're not going to agree with that. who are
> we
> > dealing with in Iraq? these are largely
> uneducated
> > brainwashed terrorists who only understand one
> > thing (killing).
>
> Well, perhaps thats how we should deal with them.
> Let's wait for another attack right? You said it
> yourself they only understand killing,
> withdrawning is not going to stop terrorism and
> pehaps future attacks on America. It will only be
> a temporary fix

judging from the past, the terrorists in Iraq are most likely NOT going to attack us. the london and madrid attacks were Al-Qaeda and Al-Qaeda-inspired groups. and the members were residing in Europe, not in the middle east.

theres a good chance that al-qaeda has a headquarters in Saudi Arabia, and the US gov't DEFINITELY is not gonna try to look for terrorists groups in Saudi because they're our #1 ally in the middle east, and they're also our #1 supplier of oil

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: truth ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:43PM

Grunt Wrote:
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> gravis likes teh cock Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > they're not going to agree with that. who are
> we
> > dealing with in Iraq? these are largely
> uneducated
> > brainwashed terrorists who only understand one
> > thing (killing).
>
> Well, perhaps thats how we should deal with them.
> Let's wait for another attack right? You said it
> yourself they only understand killing,
> withdrawning is not going to stop terrorism and
> pehaps future attacks on America. It will only be
> a temporary fix

the people blowing stuff up in Iraq are kids and young adults with no education, money, and probably no family (cuz they're all dead).

i dont think they're qualified for passports/visas such, so things like airplane hijackings and such are out of the question. plus they dont care, they just kill whoever their leaders say to kill (sunni extremists leaders say kill Shi'ites, vice versa).

if there was an attack on the US by Iraqi people (via trains/planes/etc) [which tehre wouldnt, because they wouldnt be able to get on planes in the first place, and if they did, they were probably people of Iraqi heritage operating out of Britain or somehwere else in Europe], the reason for it would be because we were there, and we overthrew the government that kept Iraq stable for so long.

im not saying they would have a just cause, im just thinking logically.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: kelvin ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:49PM

truth Wrote:
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> Grunt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > gravis likes teh cock Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > they're not going to agree with that. who are
> > we
> > > dealing with in Iraq? these are largely
> > uneducated
> > > brainwashed terrorists who only understand
> one
> > > thing (killing).
> >
> > Well, perhaps thats how we should deal with
> them.
> > Let's wait for another attack right? You said
> it
> > yourself they only understand killing,
> > withdrawning is not going to stop terrorism and
> > pehaps future attacks on America. It will only
> be
> > a temporary fix
>
> the people blowing stuff up in Iraq are kids and
> young adults with no education, money, and
> probably no family (cuz they're all dead).
>
> i dont think they're qualified for passports/visas
> such, so things like airplane hijackings and such
> are out of the question. plus they dont care, they
> just kill whoever their leaders say to kill (sunni
> extremists leaders say kill Shi'ites, vice
> versa).
>
> if there was an attack on the US by Iraqi people
> (via trains/planes/etc) , the reason for it would
> be because we were there, and we overthrew the
> government that kept Iraq stable for so long.
>
> im not saying they would have a just cause, im
> just thinking logically.

basically we end up with a large pile of shit either way, so we might as well bring our troops home.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: truth ()
Date: March 17, 2008 03:53PM

by the way, there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

there are no weapons of mass destruction in Afghanistan (besides all those rocket launchers, RPG's, machine guns and sniper rifles that the US Government supplied to the Afghan Mujahideen, but eventually found their way into the hands of terrorist groups like the Taliban)

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: garbage ()
Date: March 17, 2008 05:41PM

owned
by the truth

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Old Gramps ()
Date: March 18, 2008 12:37AM

It isn't just that Obumba has a funny name that infuriates me, but his lack of experience, I mean we have had 8 years of one knucklehead running the country, now we are gonna elect one that dresses up like some Genie that popped out of a lamp.(I am referring to that stupid picture of oboomba with some other fellow dressed up like Sabu's mother.) Now that there guy Vince makes cracks or insinuates that 20 something white males are making remarks about folks of other races, well Vince your remarks are just as racist/biased, but I guess that is okay because you are non white or liberal(the folks who can say anything they want without having to worry about being labeled anything like what they are-ignorant). You can say what you want about my post being ignorant, but the bottom line is, this country was good to me all my 70 plus years, and it wasn't because we had some guy dressing up like he was going to be doing some fortune telling in a carnival, and it wasn't because we had an idiot like we have in office now as president. You will get your oboofba as president, and if you thought things were bad now, you ain't seen nothing yet. The folks who back him financially are as crooked as Bush's cronies.

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: dont care ()
Date: March 18, 2008 12:47AM

Old Gramps Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It isn't just that Obumba has a funny name that
> infuriates me, but his lack of experience, I mean
> we have had 8 years of one knucklehead running the
> country, now we are gonna elect one that dresses
> up like some Genie that popped out of a lamp.(I am
> referring to that stupid picture of oboomba with
> some other fellow dressed up like Sabu's mother.)
> Now that there guy Vince makes cracks or
> insinuates that 20 something white males are
> making remarks about folks of other races, well
> Vince your remarks are just as racist/biased, but
> I guess that is okay because you are non white or
> liberal(the folks who can say anything they want
> without having to worry about being labeled
> anything like what they are-ignorant). You can say
> what you want about my post being ignorant, but
> the bottom line is, this country was good to me
> all my 70 plus years, and it wasn't because we had
> some guy dressing up like he was going to be doing
> some fortune telling in a carnival, and it wasn't
> because we had an idiot like we have in office now
> as president. You will get your oboofba as
> president, and if you thought things were bad now,
> you ain't seen nothing yet. The folks who back him
> financially are as crooked as Bush's cronies.

cheney and rummy have like 50+ years experience combined, they were the most dishonest, crooked, selfish f*cks since nixon

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: Soulja Boy ()
Date: March 18, 2008 03:37PM

mah yall ain got dem bathin apes up in de' byah' ei mah gall' cran'day'souljah bah yeh

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Re: Fear Mongering and Ignorance
Posted by: RAT'Z AZZ ()
Date: March 18, 2008 05:11PM

The only thing I'd like to see adopted from the Middle East is Hammurabi's Code

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