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How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Happy Intentions ()
Date: January 15, 2012 12:54AM

Got a felony about 8 years ago and a few misdemeanors 10 years back, all in va. I had filled out background check info for my job and found out it came back with nothing. I'm pretty happy but gotta ask: How come nothing showed up?

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Because ()
Date: January 15, 2012 02:44AM

Because you're lying.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: there is a way ()
Date: January 15, 2012 04:02AM

Really the only way that would happen is if they only did your background check for a certain time period. Like they only did the last 3 years, but if you are a convicted felon youre supposed to tell them that anyway

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Oxyclean ()
Date: January 15, 2012 08:20AM

Based on that I assume you lied on the part of your job application where they asked you if you've been convicted of a felony.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Happy Intentions ()
Date: January 15, 2012 10:05AM

Why the hell would I put that I did. It's not for a gov job. Lol at losers accusing me of lying when they didn't get the job because they're a dumbass for admitting. Don't worry I'll think of your responses as I look at my ever increasing bank account while banging your wife =)

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: ugod ()
Date: January 15, 2012 10:12AM

Most applications ask if you have been convicted of any crime dating back 7 years. Since op stated his crimes were from earlier, he's not obligated to state. I'm sure the majority of background screenings only go back a certain time period (7 yr, 10 yr, etc) though I'm not sure. Even though thread starter is a douche, he's kinda right in that if it isn't a govt position, why the hell would you state you had a crime before. You might as well tear up that application.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: FC ()
Date: January 15, 2012 10:14AM

Statute of limitations is 7 years.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: wnrsm ()
Date: January 15, 2012 10:20AM

I think you're in the clear.

The standard job application asks if you EVER have been convicted of a felony. You have, and you should have reported it and would have immediately been disqualified. You didn't, and you got far enough in the process that they paid to do a background search. I would have done the same thing if I was in your shoes. There are many squeaky-clean people out there looking for jobs.

Government job or not, about the worst you'd get is fired if they found out. If the job really mattered to the point that they would prosecute you for that lie, they would have searched back far enough to not have to trust your answers.

Good luck in getting the job. Also, congratulations on having a clean record for the last several years.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: wnrsm ()
Date: January 15, 2012 10:22AM

FC Wrote:
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> Statute of limitations is 7 years.

That means he can be prosecuted for fraud up to seven years after lying on the application. He'll be safe in 2019.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Legal Juve ()
Date: January 15, 2012 12:05PM

Did the other crimes happen when you were a juvenile? The records may have been purged after you grew up.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Oxyclean ()
Date: January 15, 2012 04:46PM

Happy Intentions Wrote:
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> Why the hell would I put that I did. It's not for
> a gov job. Lol at losers accusing me of lying when
> they didn't get the job because they're a dumbass
> for admitting. Don't worry I'll think of your
> responses as I look at my ever increasing bank
> account while banging your wife =)

I'm sure your new job at Office Depot will land you fame, fortune, women, and wealth. Watch out McGruff! This guy really showed us how crime pays!

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: not even close ()
Date: January 15, 2012 05:31PM

Happy Intentions Wrote:
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> Why the hell would I put that I did. It's not for
> a gov job. Lol at losers accusing me of lying when
> they didn't get the job because they're a dumbass
> for admitting. Don't worry I'll think of your
> responses as I look at my ever increasing bank
> account while banging your wife =)


No it has nothing to do with our jobs. It has to do with you breaking the law by not disclosing it.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: your loss ()
Date: January 15, 2012 06:49PM

Sorry I'm not one of the 70,000 new hires that Home Depot plans on taking. It's not labor, but even if it is I'm still banging your wife =)

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: aaaaeeee ()
Date: January 15, 2012 07:09PM

Nowadays most job applications I've filled out ask if you were convicted of any crime within the last 7 years. The reason why he didn't show up is that they only search back within a certain amount of time and he was under no obligation to put down his record since it was over 7 years ago

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: wnrsm ()
Date: January 15, 2012 10:07PM

I'm so good at my job that it is a crime. Do I have to report that?

/rim-shot

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: YEP ()
Date: January 16, 2012 08:32AM

It will show up when you don't expect it. If they do an follow-up, recurring or more detailed (local verus national check) investigation it will show up and you will be on the skids for lying.

I know a person we hired with a supposily legit degree (Information techonlogy), turn out degree came from the online off shore place. A follow up investigation on the degree statement was all it took and the person is gone. The contractors in this area seem to hire you off the bat to get the job immediately filled and then follow up with a detail investigation.

Lie at your risk about your education and criminal background. States, schools and LEs are becoming more networked in sharing people information. I listen to my scanner and the FFPD and you will surprised how much information they get on people they call in except them illegals.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: check reader ()
Date: January 18, 2012 09:44AM

Happy Intentions Wrote:
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> Got a felony about 8 years ago and a few
> misdemeanors 10 years back, all in va. I had
> filled out background check info for my job and
> found out it came back with nothing. I'm pretty
> happy but gotta ask: How come nothing showed up?


Background checks that I see clearly say the time period searched, and it is usually 7 years. So before 2005, and it won't show up.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: you never know ()
Date: January 18, 2012 09:53AM

wnrsm Wrote:
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> FC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Statute of limitations is 7 years.
>
> That means he can be prosecuted for fraud up to
> seven years after lying on the application. He'll
> be safe in 2019.


Seriously? Statue of limitations on what? That's for being prosecuted for a crime, not someone lying on a job application. Firing you for lying is different than prosecuting you for a crime.

Just because the OP skated on the original background check does not put him in the clear. Where I work (IT), we have get new customers all the time that require different background checks just to be placed on a project. That means current employees who probably would never get re-checked otherwise are going through updated checks all the time. Law enforcement requires one kind, banking requires another, and so on. So the check you did ok on to get hired could be the first of many done over time.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Candy ()
Date: October 09, 2012 11:35PM

Hello,
To be honest, I don't blame the guy for lying. He would still be unemployed like the rest of us! I have been honest since I got laid off, and it have gotten me nowhere. I've answered the dreadful question on app. Still no phone calls. Recently I applied for the same job months later and was called for an interview. I have sick with regret about the stupid misdemeanor I have. It's been over 10 years. My credit, home, and my sons education is in jeopardy. I want to get my life back. In my state you can not get expungements and it doesn't matter how long it's been it will always be public record. I have written letters thru bill Hr2449 fresh start. I hope they get it passed so I can have my life back. This should not be public record forever. How do they expect you to live or provide? If anybody can or know where I can apply and at least get an interview so explain my 1 misdemeanor, then pls post. I'm in va.
Thank you

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: James ()
Date: October 09, 2012 11:39PM

Happy Intentions Wrote:
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> Got a felony about 8 years ago and a few
> misdemeanors 10 years back, all in va. I had
> filled out background check info for my job and
> found out it came back with nothing. I'm pretty
> happy but gotta ask: How come nothing showed up?


You didn't "get" a felony. You committed a felony. Many times the records of homosexuals are in a seperate file so you do have a record.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Peeved ()
Date: October 09, 2012 11:50PM

Candy Wrote:
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> Hello,
> To be honest, I don't blame the guy for lying. He
> would still be unemployed like the rest of us! I
> have been honest since I got laid off, and it have
> gotten me nowhere. I've answered the dreadful
> question on app. Still no phone calls. Recently I
> applied for the same job months later and was
> called for an interview. I have sick with regret
> about the stupid misdemeanor I have. It's been
> over 10 years. My credit, home, and my sons
> education is in jeopardy. I want to get my life
> back. In my state you can not get expungements and
> it doesn't matter how long it's been it will
> always be public record. I have written letters
> thru bill Hr2449 fresh start. I hope they get it
> passed so I can have my life back. This should not
> be public record forever. How do they expect you
> to live or provide? If anybody can or know where I
> can apply and at least get an interview so explain
> my 1 misdemeanor, then pls post. I'm in va.
> Thank you

You don't need to say "in my state". Fairfax Underground is a forum about Fairfax County, Virginia: we're all in Virginia. So it sounds really stupid, and doesn't help your case in the slightest.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: HR ()
Date: October 09, 2012 11:55PM

It depends on what exactly the employer considers to be a "background check".

Sometimes it is just an arrest record search at the local police department, which if it's a city or county PD, will only have records for arrests by that department.

FFU's arrest/ticket search is a good example. It is purely arrests made in fairfax county. If you murdered someone in Arlington, it isn't going to show up there.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: What ()
Date: October 10, 2012 03:10AM

HR Wrote:
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> It depends on what exactly the employer considers
> to be a "background check".
>
> Sometimes it is just an arrest record search at
> the local police department, which if it's a city
> or county PD, will only have records for arrests
> by that department.
>
> FFU's arrest/ticket search is a good example. It
> is purely arrests made in fairfax county. If you
> murdered someone in Arlington, it isn't going to
> show up there.

Exxxxxxxxxxxxcellent.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Govt Hack ()
Date: October 10, 2012 09:11AM

In the early 80's I killed a guy in Texas, and did my time. Paroled in 1985. Got my degree courtesy of Texas while doing my time. Got out and applied for a job with the Federal Gov't. They asked, I lied. I figured they would find out sooner or later and I would enjoy the federal employee gravy train while it lasted. They never found out. I have worked as a fed for 27 years. I will retire on a federal pension at the end of this year and move to Florida.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Gerry C. ()
Date: October 10, 2012 10:59AM

Govt Hack Wrote:
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> In the early 80's I killed a guy in Texas, and did
> my time. Paroled in 1985. Got my degree courtesy
> of Texas while doing my time. Got out and applied
> for a job with the Federal Gov't. They asked, I
> lied. I figured they would find out sooner or
> later and I would enjoy the federal employee gravy
> train while it lasted. They never found out. I
> have worked as a fed for 27 years. I will retire
> on a federal pension at the end of this year and
> move to Florida.

Great! Welcome to the neighborhood!

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Gerry C ()
Date: October 10, 2012 11:00AM

Govt Hack Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In the early 80's I killed a guy in Texas, and
> did
> > my time. Paroled in 1985. Got my degree
> courtesy
> > of Texas while doing my time. Got out and
> applied
> > for a job with the Federal Gov't. They asked,
> I
> > lied. I figured they would find out sooner or
> > later and I would enjoy the federal employee
> gravy
> > train while it lasted. They never found out.
> I
> > have worked as a fed for 27 years. I will
> retire
> > on a federal pension at the end of this year
> and
> > move to Florida.

Great! Welcome to the neighborhood!
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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: BB*X ()
Date: October 10, 2012 01:01PM

"I have worked as a fed for 27 years. I will retire on a federal pension at the end of this year and move to Florida."

You should move to NC, no state tax on a federal pension.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Dead man haunting you ()
Date: October 11, 2012 12:06AM

Govt Hack Wrote:
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> In the early 80's I killed a guy in Texas, and did
> my time. Paroled in 1985. Got my degree courtesy
> of Texas while doing my time. Got out and applied
> for a job with the Federal Gov't. They asked, I
> lied. I figured they would find out sooner or
> later and I would enjoy the federal employee gravy
> train while it lasted. They never found out. I
> have worked as a fed for 27 years. I will retire
> on a federal pension at the end of this year and
> move to Florida.

Interesting that you seem to assume there will be no further consequences for your sin. Spirit is watching you.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: real ()
Date: October 11, 2012 01:24AM

this is Rome (Fairfax) telling the truth is an indication of stupidity. always lie , or be deemed not worthy of being hired. around here we make our own truths and sell them round the world.

hahahahaha!

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Jay Adams ()
Date: December 31, 2012 06:34PM

7 year limit was done away with a decade ago. Sorry, but they an go back as far as they like.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Craig ()
Date: December 31, 2012 06:52PM

VA does not have a "statute of limitations" for felonies. And convictions in VA cannot be expunged. Period. Most applications ask if you have "EVER" been convicted on a felony. Regardless if it's Fed or requiring ANY kind of clearance for contract working or bonding/insurance..etc.

Usually, a standard check is 7 years, but being a felon... especially if it was a crime of "moral turpitude" (lying, stealing, sex offense, drug use..etc) can haunt you forever.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: u idiots ()
Date: December 31, 2012 11:24PM

who gives a shit. why are you idiots bringing up posts that are almost a year old.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Miss J ()
Date: February 12, 2013 03:09PM

I was convicted of a felony in 1996. I have had many jobs since then. I have always been honest about my conviction.(not proud of it). Most of the jobs I have had ran a background check & nothing came back. I have worked in schools, nursing homes & financial institutions.I am trying my best to get a lawyer to try to have my record sealed or expunged.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: hTYMF ()
Date: February 12, 2013 06:50PM

Just an observation: Some vocational counselors advise people who can't answer the "have you ever..." question with an honest "no" to write in something like "Will discuss." That way you're not giving them grounds to reject you out of hand, you're not lying, and if you get an interview you can put your transgressions in the best possible light ("I was young and stupid, I paid the price," etc.). But saying "no" when the honest answer is "yes" could come back and bite you in all kinds of ways.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Wondering11 ()
Date: February 12, 2013 07:43PM

If a juvenile is convicted of a felony (sex crime) can he have his record expunged? If so, how can one try to stop that, with the help of a lawyer?

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Nope ()
Date: February 12, 2013 08:57PM

As stated they cant have a conviction expunged but if he was tried as a juvenile then his record will be sealed anyway.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: d rock ()
Date: February 20, 2013 05:33PM

bang bang

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: human resources ()
Date: February 21, 2013 01:58PM

Happy Intentions Wrote:
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> Got a felony about 8 years ago and a few
> misdemeanors 10 years back, all in va. I had
> filled out background check info for my job and
> found out it came back with nothing. I'm pretty
> happy but gotta ask: How come nothing showed up?


Your just lucky, some states dont report, some counties dont report to states etc etc, usually an employer will just go with state you live or lived, state you went to college and actual county you live in now.

For example, when i run a background the options for DC are:

DC State full crim
DC county full crim
DC police

the background check companies dont clarify or take responsibilty as this increases their liability, and companies just check to tick a fucking box.

put it this way, if i was going to commit a felony i know exactly which counties in which statess to do it in, and no one would ever know.

go figure

sex offenses are different however.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: duifhuewdhsfiuhdusf ()
Date: February 21, 2013 08:26PM

It wouldn't matter if he was a minor or not, felonies stay on your record. Only misdemeanors are "erased" from your record.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Youreidiots ()
Date: February 28, 2013 07:57AM

I know this post is a year old but I started reading it and couldnt stop because of all the idiots talking about crap they dont know....

The convictions didnt show up for one of two reasons

1 less likely.... The people that did your check are idiots

2 99% this is why... It happened so long ago, most checks are done in 3, 5, 7 or 10 year periods. Even with a felony that doesnt come off your record if your company only paid for X years back thats all they get. That being said, there are also state laws put in effect that limit the amount of time a 3rd party contractor (which most companies use to do checks) can go back and disclose to an employer, state laws vary on time and some have certain specifications but there are there..

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Youreidiots ()
Date: February 28, 2013 08:02AM

Ooops I mispelled some words, I know how these forums are and I will now be deemed an idiot and be told how to learn how to spell before I write guess what I dont fucking care

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Human Remains ()
Date: March 17, 2013 09:32PM

Youreidiots Wrote:
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> I know this post is a year old but I started
> reading it and couldnt stop because of all the
> idiots talking about crap they dont know....
>
> The convictions didnt show up for one of two
> reasons
>
> 1 less likely.... The people that did your check
> are idiots
>
> 2 99% this is why... It happened so long ago, most
> checks are done in 3, 5, 7 or 10 year periods.
> Even with a felony that doesnt come off your
> record if your company only paid for X years back
> thats all they get. That being said, there are
> also state laws put in effect that limit the
> amount of time a 3rd party contractor (which most
> companies use to do checks) can go back and
> disclose to an employer, state laws vary on time
> and some have certain specifications but there are
> there..


no your an idiot pal, your number one reason is correct.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Anne ()
Date: April 23, 2013 09:48AM

The same thing happen to me. I got a job where they checked my backround. I was honest with my employer and told him I had to felony convictions 8 years ago and when it came back I was happy to hear it came back clear, but this is only because the company I was hired at only goes back 7 years

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: yes! ()
Date: April 23, 2013 09:04PM

Happy Intentions Wrote:
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> Why the hell would I put that I did. It's not for
> a gov job. Lol at losers accusing me of lying when
> they didn't get the job because they're a dumbass
> for admitting. Don't worry I'll think of your
> responses as I look at my ever increasing bank
> account while banging your wife =)


Highfive!

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Danielle Sevic ()
Date: May 14, 2013 08:15PM

THANK YOU!!! UNTIL YOU HAVE A FELONY CHARGE YOU CAN NEVER PUT URSELF IN SOME1 ELSE'S SHOES WHO DOES.DONT JudgE SOMEONE FOR LYING ON AN APPLICATION BUT SERIOUSLY LIKE ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLES POSTS THEY WILL REJECT IT EVENTHOUGH U WERE HONEST WITH THEM!!! WE SHUD NOT BE JUDGED FOR DOING SOMETHING SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT WE REGRET AND HAVE TO PAY FOR SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME!! Y DO U THINK CRIME RATE IS SO HIGH??? AND TAXES AND THE DEFICIT ARE INCREASING AT AN INCREDIBLE RATE?? BECAUSE OF SOME ScUM LIKE YOU THAT THINKS SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR THEIR MISTAKES THE REST OF THEIR FREAKIN LIVES!!!
GOOD FOR U!!! :)) CONGRATS ON THAT NEW CAREER OF URS NOW U CAN GET UR RECORD SEALED OFF FOR GOOD! :D

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: another statistic ()
Date: July 03, 2013 10:29AM

Danielle Sevic Wrote:
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> THANK YOU!!! UNTIL YOU HAVE A FELONY CHARGE YOU
> CAN NEVER PUT URSELF IN SOME1 ELSE'S SHOES WHO
> DOES.DONT JudgE SOMEONE FOR LYING ON AN
> APPLICATION BUT SERIOUSLY LIKE ALL THESE OTHER
> PEOPLES POSTS THEY WILL REJECT IT EVENTHOUGH U
> WERE HONEST WITH THEM!!! WE SHUD NOT BE JUDGED FOR
> DOING SOMETHING SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT WE REGRET
> AND HAVE TO PAY FOR SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME!! Y
> DO U THINK CRIME RATE IS SO HIGH??? AND TAXES AND
> THE DEFICIT ARE INCREASING AT AN INCREDIBLE RATE??
> BECAUSE OF SOME ScUM LIKE YOU THAT THINKS SOMEONE
> HAS TO PAY FOR THEIR MISTAKES THE REST OF THEIR
> FREAKIN LIVES!!!
> GOOD FOR U!!! :)) CONGRATS ON THAT NEW CAREER OF
> URS NOW U CAN GET UR RECORD SEALED OFF FOR GOOD!
> :D


It'sreally bad when no matter how hard you try or how good you are it's never good enough. I've been to job after job after job and I'm honest and I never hear anything back. I know you going to laugh but I can't even get a job at McDonalds flipping hamburgers. All I want to do is move on with my life. I'm tired of my childhood past lurking behind me and screwing not only my life but my family's as well. To anyone who is in my shoes, I wish you the best. Maybe we should start our own business for people like us. Because the rest of the World don't give a shit.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Hoosier Daddy ()
Date: July 03, 2013 04:20PM

Craig Wrote:
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> VA does not have a "statute of limitations" for
> felonies. And convictions in VA cannot be
> expunged. Period.

Then why does the Attorney General's Office have a form for that, shit for brains?

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Tray von Martin ()
Date: July 03, 2013 05:22PM

Because you're an illegal.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: wnrsm ()
Date: July 03, 2013 09:02PM

A friend of mine just got convicted of a felony. His IT career is over.

Wait around seven years and try to get back in IT... not happening.

Remember kids, don't do naughty stuff.

If you do, don't get caught.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/03/2013 09:04PM by wnrsm.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Whhhhhhattttt ()
Date: July 04, 2013 02:06AM

A felony conviction is no bar to getting an IT job. I once worked with a guy who was arrested on felony drunk driving ON THE WAY TO commit an armed robbery.

Once you get out of Mom's house/bed, you'll pick up on what matters and what doesn't.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: LOL...morons ()
Date: August 22, 2013 09:40PM

LOL...bunch of morons on here.

It is illegal for an employer to ask if you have been convicted of a felony, just like it is illegal for them to ask if you are black...or your gender...or if you are gay...

That is why they perform background checks in the first place because they can't ask outright.

Trust me, I know I won a lawsuit against a fortune 500 company.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: JustanFYI ()
Date: August 22, 2013 10:02PM

Craig Wrote:
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> VA does not have a "statute of limitations" for
> felonies. And convictions in VA cannot be
> expunged. Period. Most applications ask if you
> have "EVER" been convicted on a felony. Regardless
> if it's Fed or requiring ANY kind of clearance for
> contract working or bonding/insurance..etc.
>
> Usually, a standard check is 7 years, but being a
> felon... especially if it was a crime of "moral
> turpitude" (lying, stealing, sex offense, drug
> use..etc) can haunt you forever.


This is the only useful and educated post in the entire thread.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: 14 employee LLC ()
Date: August 22, 2013 10:16PM

wnrsm Wrote:
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> A friend of mine just got convicted of a felony.
> His IT career is over.
>
> Wait around seven years and try to get back in
> IT... not happening.
>
> Remember kids, don't do naughty stuff.
>
> If you do, don't get caught.


If he is good at what he does it is not over. I would see it as a good thing, because I can offer him much less and he would probably take it.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: wnrsm ()
Date: August 24, 2013 10:07AM

LOL...morons Wrote:
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> LOL...bunch of morons on here.
>
> It is illegal for an employer to ask if you have
> been convicted of a felony, just like it is
> illegal for them to ask if you are black...or your
> gender...or if you are gay...
>
> That is why they perform background checks in the
> first place because they can't ask outright.
>
> Trust me, I know I won a lawsuit against a fortune
> 500 company.

[citation needed]

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: jFk4n ()
Date: August 24, 2013 10:30AM

LOL...morons Wrote:
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> LOL...bunch of morons on here.
>
> It is illegal for an employer to ask if you have
> been convicted of a felony, just like it is
> illegal for them to ask if you are black...or your
> gender...or if you are gay...
>
> That is why they perform background checks in the
> first place because they can't ask outright.
>
> Trust me, I know I won a lawsuit against a fortune
> 500 company.

According to the EEOC, there is no federal law prohibiting asking about arrests or convictions, although such information may not be used to discriminate against a member of a protected class. "Convicted felon" is not a protected class. State laws vary, but Virginia apparently does not prohibit asking about convictions, except convictions that have been expunged.

Many employers don't ask about arrests because many arrests don't result in convictions. But I don't know how anyone could imagine an employer wouldn't be entitled to ask an applicant whether he has ever been convicted of murder, rape, robbery, embezzling, assault etc., etc. Asking the question saves them the cost of running a background check on an ineligible applicant.

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/practices/inquiries_arrest_conviction.cfm
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/virginia-laws-employer-use-arrest-conviction-records.html

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Constance ()
Date: August 28, 2013 01:08PM

If an application states "have you had a felony in the past seven years" and he states no then he is not lying. People get off your high horses people with felonies need to work too. If you don't have a felony it is not because your better than those who do it just means you were never caught. He who has not sinned may cast the first stone otherwise shut up.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: svennestle ()
Date: August 28, 2013 06:05PM

"Lexis Nexis"

was a company that tracked peoples employer complaints legal complaints

problem is they lied to produce "juicy records" so that employers would be impressed with the database. sometimes just no legal backing to content: but also straight out fabrications in data were found.

judges / counties / prosecutors lie on record to get "convicetions" and to make you cheaper so their money goes farther: conflicts in interest. you and your eviction is cheaper that way! who cares if they break laws too. right?

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lexis nexus was eventually sued en-mass and was forced to send money to every person in their "database"

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legally it is the judge's duty to maintain records or to see to their maintenance

there should only be proven causes of action kept on record after judgement. the codes of law relating to the injury and action and cause that has been ajudged in court: and not complaints before this, and not complaints that were never proven or proven against either

but these idiots will store un-proven complaints made by people trying to defame you. idiots

do you see? otherwise it is harmful defamation that can and will get you fire and etc. and would be their put by people with conflicts of interest to you. just lies.

you should have a clean legal / public record until proven guilty

and you can ASK for a record to be removed from the record. you can ask.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/28/2013 06:09PM by svennestle.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: GreenwitNV ()
Date: September 16, 2013 02:09AM

Actually I'm reading this from nv. Googled it for info. Soooo who's the dumbass. Shrug. I don't blame him for lying. Its no wonder people w criminal historys 7yrs or older lie when there's no hope to land a job when your honest about It. At least you might be employed for a little while to somewhat provide forn your family. When a person struggles to turn their lives in a positive direction and feel good about leading a positive life to be constantly denyed even to get an interview to give your explination, is jus shoving that person back down emotionally. Its no wonder Americas jail and prison system is a revolving door. Half of the people who responded to this are lacking empathy and juus come off as arrogant assholes.
Keep yourself moving up and to hell what anyone else says. JS.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: MosbyBranch ()
Date: September 17, 2013 06:54PM

I have the same problem. In 1995 just before my 21st birthday I was fined for a class 4 misdemeanor (public intoxication) in a night club 2 blocks away from my college dorm. Yeah, I was young and stupid. That was 18 years ago. I recently did a search on the Central Criminal Record Exchange (CCRE) with the Virginia State Police and no data conviction was found.

How come my record did not show up in the background check?

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: A theory ()
Date: September 17, 2013 06:57PM

MosbyBranch Wrote:
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> I have the same problem. In 1995 just before my
> 21st birthday I was fined for a class 4
> misdemeanor (public intoxication) in a night club
> 2 blocks away from my college dorm. Yeah, I was
> young and stupid. That was 18 years ago. I
> recently did a search on the Central Criminal
> Record Exchange (CCRE) with the Virginia State
> Police and no data conviction was found.
>
> How come my record did not show up in the
> background check?

Probably for the same reason that shooter was able to get a clearance, someone in the process fuckered up!

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: MosbyBranch ()
Date: September 17, 2013 08:07PM

If no data conviction record was found- can I technically say NO to a questionnaire where they asked “have you ever been convicted...”

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: castcbd864 ()
Date: September 18, 2013 11:06PM

My felony use to show up but now it don't...after so many years it becomes sealed from employers but is still there jus not to be viewed..jus thank God and leave it alone...I didn't question it..I jus thanked him and moved on...if it say no record then it will be a no on the application..and I served prison time for it back in 2004...

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: VASUKS ()
Date: October 20, 2013 03:27PM

you are an idiot...don't worry my friend if you are changed man and you lie and get away with it...its totally fine and nobody will ever prosecute you for lying...just like the other person said, worst case scenario you will get fired and thats if you are a contractor and have to pick up projects that potentially could be affiliated with the government.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Id rather not say my name ()
Date: January 03, 2014 04:34PM

A felony conviction for manufacturing several illicit drugs in virginia earned me a job as a ligitimate drug chemist for a respectable company; however, this company needs to be registered as a drug producer that sells (legitimate) drugs in texas, the question of felony convictions is part of the drug licensing application (page 2 on texas form DRUGS OOS-OTC 2502).
I would hate to be the reason that this company cannot sell drugs in texas... that would be the end of my job.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Id rather not say my name ()
Date: January 03, 2014 04:37PM

oh yeah, the last conviction was 11 years ago.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: dian ()
Date: January 07, 2014 11:08AM

I.say.its.becuz.you.simply.had luck on ur.side.that.day.or.God.wanted.you to.get tbat job.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: RIZZO ()
Date: January 16, 2014 10:56PM

he is not lying.I admitted to a felony on a job app and after the background check came back I was told that nothing came up but it wss good that I was honest

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Date: January 17, 2014 04:07AM

Dumb selfconsumed assholes who think that a person is a monster because of a conviction. You make me sick and you people with your closed, selfish uneducated minds who live in your perfect little bubbles who watch the news and believe that what you hear and see is the truth are so caught up and brainwashed with bullshit your as smart as a fucking goldfish in a bowl... bubble bubble bubble.
I was convicted with a sexual offense, using technology to lure a minor in 2011. It was a sting operation and never had any intent to meet, see, or touch any minor but they responded to me in an adult classified ad section and because in the email address the name was calicools13 they said I knew it was a 13 year old girl... fucking calicools13 my life was almost completely ruined but my high priced attorney got me 5 year probation and registering as a sex offender for 25 years until I can challenge and have myself removed. Dont you get it everythings about money in this fucked up country. I never had a charge prior or since and would never touch any child in a sexual way but yet im labeled a sex offender.I own my own business and bust my ass everyday to support my self and my wife while doing everything required by the biggest money baggers, the law. And I pray the day comes when a close minded prick says some dumbass remark to my face about being a sex offender so I can stomp the the asshole into the ground. And yeah it enrages me to that point because I was one of you weakminded fucks until I experienced truth first hand... Yeah there's people out there that are animals and need to be put away but for alot they were just a dollar sign to keep this wonderful counrty with its fucked politics, blind unfair judicial system and brainwashed sheep who are being led by a one eyed, crippled selfish greedy shepard. Not insinuating our president except for bush's dumb cowboy ass.

Well I feel alot better now and to everyone doing what they have to do to make things right by there loved ones, fuck what others think and say, there the reasons this country is fucked over, lazy ungreatful brainwashed wannabies go watch your drama reality tv shows. stop hurting this country and do something that is actually productive

im out

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Date: January 17, 2014 04:15AM

Oh yeah I told the truth on an application for an apartment, they called me back and said nothing came up but since I had been truthful they denied me and my wife so tmrw I WILL LIE AND PUT NO and ill be seeing you in your high priced "safe" gated community... hahaha pussies

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THIS ()
Date: January 17, 2014 05:37AM

FUCKING SHIT ABOUT YOUR CRIMINAL HISTORY SHIT! FUCK YOU! STFU!
EAT SHIT AND DIE MAGGOT! GET A BRAIN!
WHAT DID YOU DO? SHIT YOUR FUCKING TIBY BRAIN OUT YOUR ASS AND FLUSH IT DOWN THE FUCKING TOILET? GET A FUCKING LIFE YOU IMBECILE!

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Chas ()
Date: February 07, 2014 01:26AM

I don't blame you for not admitting that.
Why should your past keep you from moving forward.
Dont help the system Fuck you in the ass,
just listen to that little voice from now on.
Is this what you'd want someone to do to you?

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Jessica Mendez ()
Date: February 10, 2014 07:23PM

When I was looking for work, my background check was not an issue. If you are looking for a job where a background check is not going to be an issue, you really should look at another job search option. If you are working at a place where it might be a problem for your background check, you really should think about getting on board with another job search company like granted.com. Granted.com was the best option for me when I was looking for jobs in Virginia.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Marcus Davis ()
Date: March 02, 2014 09:10PM

The thread starter is a survivor. People hate when other people squeeze threw the cracks. I'm one of them I am also a felon and I am a executive chef at a nice resort making $15 an hour.... to the thread starter good job starting a new life... to the others stop hating on other that's gone through more crap then you!

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: pam ()
Date: March 03, 2014 10:55AM

Some people think that committing a crime is the worst thing possible, your not innocent just haven't gotten caught yet....Jail isn't paper made...its very easy to land in there with a blink of an eye....Ex felons has paid their dues to society...everybody deserves a second chance..
There should be a statue of limitation on how far a company can go back on a persons background....Maybe if the do the crime rate will go down because if a company isnt willing to give second chances people has to still survive, take care of their families and their going to do what they have to do to do it...whether it be selling drugs, robbing and or stealing...it is what it is....

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Jessica Mendez ()
Date: March 21, 2014 07:47PM

Yeah i think it's crazy how so many people are looking for work and have no idea where to go when they need to be looking in specific places. when I was looking for work, the best option was granted.com. I was so happy that I was able to get a job so fast. Good luck to all those who are still on the job search!

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Oh poor Pam ()
Date: March 21, 2014 07:59PM

pam Wrote:
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> Some people think that committing a crime is the
> worst thing possible, your not innocent just
> haven't gotten caught yet....Jail isn't paper
> made...its very easy to land in there with a blink
> of an eye....Ex felons has paid their dues to
> society...everybody deserves a second chance..
> There should be a statue of limitation on how far
> a company can go back on a persons
> background....Maybe if the do the crime rate will
> go down because if a company isnt willing to give
> second chances people has to still survive, take
> care of their families and their going to do what
> they have to do to do it...whether it be selling
> drugs, robbing and or stealing...it is what it
> is....

Pam, just take your fat ass and 2nd chance to another state or better yet to another country.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: t9JbY ()
Date: March 21, 2014 08:41PM

your lying.

a history of everything nasty any gov worker wished to set against you comes up

which is why defamation is ILLEGAL

and fairfax should be sued

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Sheila ()
Date: March 24, 2014 08:45PM

Didn't say why you killed someone, but congrats for holding a govt job for 27 yrs.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Trisha ()
Date: May 21, 2014 10:28PM

I am enjoying this thread and all the responses. It seems everyone is very opinionated on this subject, myself included. I had a very nasty drug addiction and in the late 90's and early 2000's racked up a very extensive non violent criminal record. Since then, I have cleaned up and have learned to live without drugs and crimes to support my habit. At resume building classes and job interview preparation we are always told to answer the felony question with a "will discuss at interview". This way, you can't be penalized for not disclosing and it gives you a chance to explain in person the circumstances surrounding those conviction(s). You can explain to the interviewer your strong points, why you would be a good fit, along with any degrees or higher education. If they ask about the felonies, I tell them the truth. I am human. I made some bad choices and have learned from them. I was convicted of fraud and falsifying business records. I have a DUI and some simple possession charges. I tell them what I have done to rehabilitate myself. I dressed up for interviews. I spoke with intelligence and confidence. I disclosed all my info and I got the job! (At a security company no less). I not proud of my past, but my experience has made me a better and stronger person. There are companies that will give you a chance. It's not worth the gamble lying on an application, but there are ways to answer that will make them still want to interview you and not reject you strictly by what they see on paper. Good luck everybody!!

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: 70chip ()
Date: May 22, 2014 12:46PM

Anything other than "NO" checked on the application gets the shredder from me. Will discuss.. sounds like a loser full of excuses. Only hire white/asian morally upright law abiding males, and watch the profit machine take off. This policy entirely eliminates office drama and discrimination distractions.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: NvD3L ()
Date: May 22, 2014 06:21PM

your a liar there are business who keep and distribute dirt on you. they even add some if they don't have any (see lawsuit workers v. lexus nexus )

they may also be information houses who keep track of your "portfolio" (whatever they have they can by any means take from you)

and the City doesn't need that. they run the courts and cheat in them so they always win against you.
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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: justaquestion ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:57AM

So I am 27 years old and when I was 18 I plead guilty to poss. of marijuana. That is the only thing on my record, was in no trouble before or after and it has been almost 10 years. I recently had a background check completed by the state of VA for an adoption/custody issue, and the lady just called and said my record was "squeaky clean" why or how is this possible??

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Mike H. ()
Date: August 21, 2014 11:10PM

I don't get it either. In 2002 I was released from prison after serving 4 years on 8 for arson with intent to defraud and extortion. I was originally arrested in 1997. There were some flukes in my case because of a dirty fire inspector, a cop or two with family ties to the real arsonist etc... I was a kid, though legally an adult. I worked for a retired organized crime guy that had a horrific accident leaving him disabled. His son, and his daughter were friends. He became very unfriendly when he imagined that his daughter and I were involved. I was facing 30 yrs in prison. So, I fled the country. I lived outside as long as I could. My girlfriend became pregnant outside the U.S. and because of the heat caused by EL NINO, she was going to lose the baby. The doctors said that we needed better medical care to save it , and if we could get to the U.S. the baby would be fine. So, we came back, and a few months in I was snitched on and arrested and forced to face the same dirty bastards. The old man had passed away and my time went down to eight years. Mind you, I know murderers that have done less time. But, I did my time, worked out , got my GED, and a Diploma in welding and fitting, etc.. Katrina wiped out New Orleans, I moved to Georgia. In Georgia I applied at a company that is world wide, 187 countries wide. Didn't know there are that many. The agency calls me back and says that everything I told them on the application doesn't exist. There are no records of my background that I stated on the app. So, for years now I have been an alcoholic, mainly because of my prison experiences. Not because I was punked or anything like that, but because I've seen things like a persons face melted off by magic shave and baby lotion microwaved for 40 seconds and thrown on them. Or guards breaking 6 ribs and a jaw on a guy for hitting a snitch. Or my best friend inside telling me its no biggie, put up a curtain and let this guy suck you off, you won't know the difference. It goes on and on. Whatever the reason, I'm a functioning alcoholic, but I'm fighting to stop completely. I got myself sober enough to apply for a job I'm over qualified for , except for the background. I've been turned down for jobs simply for over qualification in fabrication. I can build anything from anything. Like Magyver sp> but recently I'm thinking my background has resurfaced due to deeper technology. Which means I'm fucked. I have been married 18yrs now. I have 3 great kids and two dogs. I'm that guy in the neighborhood you can count on, cause I haven't even had a ticket since 1997. But here I am unemployed and exhausted. If ppl are going to hold my past against me, why should I continue to be good? I'm naturally gifted at being bad, and since we are all supposed to be born into sin, why shouldn't I own you when you doze me? I'm in a dark place right now, and its not cause my lights are off. I could've been anything in this world. But I was abandoned by mom and dad and left to the streets by 15. I slept in culverts at public parks, ate from dumpsters , backs of Dominoes pizza joints, McDonalds garbage etc. But yet here I am , and still paying for all those years ago. I want to kill myself, but I can't hurt my family that way. And seeing how I feel that way because of ppl like you , I feel hate for you, like you are the enemy, even though I fucked my life up because I didn't know any better. So I look at you and want to hurt you , or take what I need to provide/survive. I'm praying and hoping that the circle of life really is just a song in a disney production. Because if I'm off the chain with all I know, just to provide for my family, you ppl are in for a sequal of D day. I'm not just a convict, I'm smarter than a 5th grader, and can build anything, out of anything. But this world is oppressive to the point of attack. I hope someone out there figures it all out. I wouldn't punish my dog forever for tearing up my couch, or pissing on my floor, or even biting my neighbor.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Mike H. ()
Date: August 21, 2014 11:33PM

Wish everyone felt like you friend. God bless you and yours. For the skeptics, I haven't committed a crime since my last, but you have violated me in everyway.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Shawn ()
Date: September 09, 2014 05:27PM

In 2004 I was convicted of two Marijuana with intent to distribute felony charges.

Since then I have had no other conviction except maybe minor traffic infraction. I went back to school and graduated from GMU. I also got married.

Recently I went through a recruiter who got me an interview with Sprint for an IT Data Center Tech position, which I did great in and they offered me a job. 6 months contract to perm.

I then go back to the recruiter and fill out paperwork and explained to him my felony conviction in 2004. He comes back with a blank sheet of paper and tells me we only check back 7 years. Just put no on here and if nothing comes up your good to go. I'm waiting for the background check to come through and hear back from them....

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Gayle Morris ()
Date: September 15, 2014 08:08PM

I am applying for a CNA position, I had a charge in 2005 was reduced from felony to misdemeanor, will that affect my getting a job in a rehab facility

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: don't get mad get.... ()
Date: September 15, 2014 08:27PM

Mike H. Wrote:
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> .But here I am unemployed and exhausted. If
> ppl are going to hold my past against me, why
> should I continue to be good? I'm naturally gifted
> at being bad, and since we are all supposed to be
> born into sin, why shouldn't I own you when you
> doze me? I want to kill myself, but I
> can't hurt my family that way. And seeing how I
> feel that way because of ppl like you , I feel
> hate for you, like you are the enemy, even though
> I fucked my life up because I didn't know any
> better. So I look at you and want to hurt you , or
> take what I need to provide/survive. I'm praying
> and hoping that the circle of life really is just
> a song in a disney production. Because if I'm off
> the chain with all I know, just to provide for my
> family, you ppl are in for a sequal of D day.But this
> world is oppressive to the point of attack. I hope
> someone out there figures it all out..

Hey, I'm not going to advocate criminal behavior but there are a lot of yuppies in the area and the brothers look at them like the lions in Africa look at baby gazelle, and a lot of those guys have done time too so....you can read between the lines on that one

Let me tell you something else. If you see these weak, limp-wristed yuppies with their kickball playing, starbucks drinking, mcmansion building, career-ascending, me,me,me, phony patriotic ways and don't automatically want to kick their teeth in than their is something wrong with you, so I say hate on brother. They say love makes the world go round, but that's a hallmark card, the reality is that it's hate, doesn't take but watching the news or reading the paper to know that.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Zane ()
Date: September 16, 2014 02:17PM

Want know I applied for housing. But was convicted for a class B substance with attent to distribute,about 18 year ago .Their doin a Cori would it come up on my Cori.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: Zane ()
Date: September 16, 2014 02:23PM

Zane Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>I Want know I applied for housing. But was convicted
> for a class B substance with attent to
> distribute,about 18 year ago .Their doin a Cori
> would it come up on my Cori.

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Re: How come my criminal history didn't show up in background check?
Posted by: dblakk1 ()
Date: September 21, 2014 06:53AM

WAS IT A GOOD KILL. DID YOU GUT THE MEAT RIGHT THEIR ON THE SPOT.

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