Two Lake Braddock Middle School brothers hacked into two Spanish teachers' websites during Fairfax County Public School's winter break.

The websites were hosted on Blackboard, an online education platform used by teachers in hundreds of school districts across the country to post materials and communicate with students and parents.

According to Burke Patch sources, a bogus homework assignment and extra credit opportunity were posted, content was erased or changed, and "malicious" and "vulgar" emails were sent.

According to a letter from the boys' parents, the students "even posted the hacking procedure on a web page that may have led to further hacking by others."

In a letter to parents, one Spanish teacher said the material lost in the hacking had been complied over ten years. "Rebuilding those activities will not be accomplished quickly or easily," she wrote. "The final result is that both Blackboard AND Conjuguemos will be unavailable to my students until further notice."

Mary Shaw, public information officer for Fairfax County Public Schools', said, "We will not identify the students or give out information on the disciplinary actions, if any, that are taken. That is confidential information."

Read all about it. Not so bright after all if they can't hide their electronic tail, eh?

Didn't these teachers have a backup of the info? Not really bright if they merely relied on Blackboard for keeping everything. Geez, even us govt sites get hacked

Morgan Wrote:
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> Didn't these teachers have a backup of the info?
> Not really bright if they merely relied on
> Blackboard for keeping everything. Geez, even us
> govt sites get hacked

Agree. Apparently they don't teach contingency planning in FCPS. ;)

People somehow think hacking is different from physical breaking and entering. Just because the tools and expertise you draw upon are different, doesn't mean the function and result isn't the same.

I bet these kids wouldn't have broken into the classroom with lockpicks and crowbars over break, but they feel safer hiding behind their computers.

I attend Lake Braddock and I know the brothers who hacked fcps. They were pulled from class and never came back (they were expelled). Acoording to teachers they sent really bad emails to a bunch of students and deleted a spanish teacher's fcps website which she worked on for 10 years. They were really smart kids (geniuses) with amazing grades but this probably ruined their future for getting into a good college. From what I hear they are proud of what they did and are bragging about it.

localyokel Wrote:
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> Two Lake Braddock Middle School brothers hacked
> into two Spanish teachers' websites during Fairfax
> County Public School's winter break.
>
> The websites were hosted on Blackboard, an online
> education platform used by teachers in hundreds of
> school districts across the country to post
> materials and communicate with students and
> parents.
>
> According to Burke Patch sources, a bogus homework
> assignment and extra credit opportunity were
> posted, content was erased or changed, and
> "malicious" and "vulgar" emails were sent.
>
> According to a letter from the boys' parents, the
> students "even posted the hacking procedure on a
> web page that may have led to further hacking by
> others."
>
> In a letter to parents, one Spanish teacher said
> the material lost in the hacking had been complied
> over ten years. "Rebuilding those activities will
> not be accomplished quickly or easily," she wrote.
> "The final result is that both Blackboard AND
> Conjuguemos will be unavailable to my students
> until further notice."
>
> Mary Shaw, public information officer for Fairfax
> County Public Schools', said, "We will not
> identify the students or give out information on
> the disciplinary actions, if any, that are taken.
> That is confidential information."


Who cares? Its just high school, kids are supposed to screw up.

Carbonite

In this case, just middle school, the boys futures will be fine.

My daughter takes Spanish at LB and now since these punks hacked the site, the teacher will not be using the resources that were available to the students. This is too bad because the websites were great for practice and practice test taking. Since the students no longer have access to the sites, they have to write out flash cards and review that way. The websites were so much better for the students. The punks's parents should pay to have the sites brought back up to par like they were before their little darlings hacked them.

Steve k2 I kind of have to disagree.
They wanted to go to TJ (and were defenitly able to because they were smart and had good grades) but have no chance of getting in after getting explelled. Their family probably is also going to move to a diffrent county to go to a diffrent school and just to get away from it all since a ton of people know they did it.This is probably going to go on their permanent record and will probably not get into a good college, atleast not one that they should have gone to.

Expulsion is an action that has to be taken by the school board. They were not expelled...yet.

It is a serious incident and they could face criminal charges.

The boys should not be expelled. They should be hired. Clearly FCPS doesn't have anyone in the IT department as smart as them. They would probably work for less too. Maybe a chipotle gift card:)

???wth Wrote:
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> The boys should not be expelled. They should be
> hired. Clearly FCPS doesn't have anyone in the IT
> department as smart as them. They would probably
> work for less too. Maybe a chipotle gift card:)

So because they hacked into blackboard, a site run by a company that is not overseen by FCPS in any way, then obviously the FCPS IT dept is at fault? That would be like blaming a bank customer if some random hacker managed to get into their online bank account.

Anyway, it sounds like these two are likely expelled from the sound of it, mostly because of the whole nasty emails to other students along with the destruction of lesson plans or whatever. They are "lucky" that this happened in middle school, so if they move to a different area. keep up their grades, and stay out of trouble then by the time they apply to college they can pretty much write it off as a learning experience.

anon121 Wrote:
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>
> So because they hacked into blackboard, a site run
> by a company that is not overseen by FCPS in any
> way, then obviously the FCPS IT dept is at fault?
> That would be like blaming a bank customer if some
> random hacker managed to get into their online
> bank account.

It's FCPS IT responsibility to either back it up, or retain vendors that back it up. Sites and systems crash, get hacked, etc. all the time. One person hacking into a web site should not mean the loss of all of the data. That's a joke really.

OBTW, if a bank somehow allows a hacker in, you don't lose your money, do you? Complete lack of responsibility from the teacher and FCPS IT, IMO.

If I was a parent at Lake Braddock, I would be more concerned about the exposure of kids' educational records.

All this energy and anger directed at two 13 year olds----good grief...

WHAT KIND OF MORONS ARE WORKING IN IT????????????????

HOW MUCH MONEY HAS FCPS SPENT FOR BLACKBOARD??????????????????

WHY DIDN'T THESE TEACHERS BACK UP THEIR DATA?????????

WHAT COULD THESE HACKERS SEE????

Totally agreed ^^^.

The IT department apparently is more concerned with ensuring teachers don't access Facebook and similar time wasting, non educational sites than server security issues such as this.

Police Called After 9-year-old Steals Password

April 19th, 2010

A few weeks ago, officials at Fairfax County Public Schools thought they had a hacker on their hands.

Someone was changing teacher passwords on the Falls Church, Virginia, school district’s Blackboard system, which is used to give teachers, students and parents a way to communicate and stay on top of homework assignments and class announcements over the Web.

Local police were called; they investigated and traced the incident to the home of a 9-year-old student at the school. Although police initially thought that the Blackboard system had been hacked, it turned out that a Fairfax student — who has not been identified — had simply taken a teacher’s password from a desk and used it to change enrollment lists and other teachers’ passwords.

“This was a case where an individual … got hold of a teacher’s password, and the passwords had administrative rights,” said Paul Regnier, a school board spokesman.

The student was able to enroll teachers in classes, and when he did so he could modify their passwords on the Blackboard system, but there wasn’t much more he could do, Blackboard representatives said. The intruder couldn’t, for example, change grades or access other machines on the school’s system.

That didn’t stop some local papers from reporting the incident as a computer intrusion, a characterization that both Regnier and Blackboard now dispute. “It was actually not a hack, unless you consider the fact that the 9-year-old took the teacher’s username and password from the desk a hack,” said Michael Stanton, Blackboard’s senior vice president of corporate affairs.

Although there will be no criminal charges filed against the perpetrator — citing school policy, Regnier wouldn’t confirm that it is a student — the Fairfax school board is taking the incident seriously, Regnier said. “Nothing bad happened this time, but we have to make sure that … it doesn’t happen again,” he said.

The key, he added, is keeping passwords safe from prying eyes.

How much does Blackboard cost? From the contract award document, Blackboard's learning content annually costs:
$736,597 for Software
$761,818 for Hosting, Call Center, Storage
$187,909 for Customization Maintenance & Escrow
$ 6,000 for Customization Maintenance--Anti-virus Protection upon BB 9.1 migration
$ 36,900 for Training
TOTAL: $1,729,224 annually
Don't see security listed anywhere!

In addition, hourly costs are:
$160 for Consultant
$225 for Manager
$245 for Director
$345 for VP

This contract does not include the $459,000 for Mass Notifications (call outs about weather, attendance, lunch balances, etc.) nor costs for Web Conferencing (contract file not accessible).

2. Instructors can keep a copy of their materials outside of Blackboard.

•Instructors can Archive or Export a course using the Archive or Export feature in the Control Panel, and save a copy to their local PC or burn the content to CD or DVD for portability. Course data saved to a local hard drive should be included in the regular backup procedure for that computer. Note: For courses with an exceptionally large amount of content, your internet browser (Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox, or Safari) might "time out" and not successfully complete the archive operation. This will be corrected in a future version of Blackboard. Contact the OIT Help Desk for assistance with time-out issues or any other assistance for archiving or exporting assistance.
•Instructors can store files in other university systems. Options include departmental servers, and OIT services such as iTunes U, Lectopia and WebFiles. In some cases, making one of these other sources the primary storage location and linking to the content from within your Blackboard course site is the best option. Considerations regarding where to store files include, but are not limited to: convenience to students and instructor, appropriateness for particular class activity, file size, multimedia needs, and legal compliance with respect to intellectual property (Fair Use, DMCA [Digital Millennium Copyright Act], TEACH Act [Technology, Education, and Copyright Harmonization Act], etc.).

Heard some students were grounded etc. for cutting because attendance records were also changed for these teachers.

Blackboard is a joke when it comes to security. Plain and simple anybody who spends enough time can break into a system. It's the same as studying the locks on the front doors of schools. It you study long enough you'll figure a way. No intelligence necessary.

The students should be expelled and have to pay for damages plus a fine. That sends a clear messages to others that this will not be tolerated.

Always knew LB has the smartest Tech students
Pretend to punish them to discourage further abuse of the system. Then US government should hire them. Better to have them on our side.

FCPS IT DEPARTMENT = NOT TOO BRIGHT Wrote:
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> Totally agreed ^^^.
>
> The IT department apparently is more concerned
> with ensuring teachers don't access Facebook and
> similar time wasting, non educational sites than
> server security issues such as this.

Blocking sites is easy. Securing your network, not so much.

OH MY!

Is this the SAME Lake Braddock HS that employs the assistant principal who HACKED into her husband's FCPS email address to spy on him?

You betcha.

Sure, let's throw the book at the kids---but give her a free pass.

You couldn't make this crap up if you tried.

I & everyone else at Gatehouse would LOVE to submit those files.. but they were sealed & everyone working here is bound by that agreement... we risk losing our jobs.

The only person who can release her copies of the files & evidence is Miss Gordon... believe me, we've TRIED & TRIED & TRIED to get her to press charges against the Ex-Ms. Hernandez. That's the only way the state & federal law enforcement will know & get involved.

The young lady won't do it. She said, "at the request of Mr. Hernandez, for the sake of his children..." she will not have his ex-wife arrested for what the ex has done to her - including the hacking into her comptuer, hacking into her email, stalking her at work, stalking her at home, etc.

Obviously Miss Gordon is a bigger/better person than "the ex" every was... and quite obviously Miss Gordon cares more about protecting the children from this than Deborah Hernandez did - otherwise WHY would Deborah Hernandez have risked the public spectacle she made of herself, along with risking her own job, and accepting/wanting to risk her husband's job?

I suggest Deborah Hernandez stay on Miss Gordon's good side - the statute of limitations doesn't expire for a few more years!

Than again, maybe Deborah will overstep the boundaries again with Miss Gordon - if she pushes her hard enough, maybe we'll get rid of Deborah Hernandez yet... this time for good, not just a transfer.

this is my school, and it was a huge deal. my spanish teacher didn't get hacked, but those stupid eighth graders changed all her announcements and it really was vulgar and disgusting. honestly, why can't people just be mature instead of doing stupid things like this?

I'm sure that dummy teacher had her password written down somewhere and these kids found it. And yes there is a backup for the material lost, the Spanish teacher has no idea what she's talking about.

I worked briefly implementing Blackboard for an online university. Every class has a master course template which can be loaded. This dummy might have to do some manual entry for any grades that were changed but the course material should be readily available.

k Wrote:
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> this is my school, and it was a huge deal. my
> spanish teacher didn't get hacked, but those
> stupid eighth graders changed all her
> announcements and it really was vulgar and
> disgusting. honestly, why can't people just be
> mature instead of doing stupid things like this?


Not that it's ok to hack into the school's internet but they are in 8th grade. I think that answers the maturity aspect

I am the hacker, and to be honest, everyone can restore deleted data from their hard drive unless the drive was defragmented or reformatted, or massive file operations took place. My point of view is that the IT people are trying to cover their asses and are so inept they do not realize EVERYTHING deleted can be restored. It is FCPS responsibility to make sure the sites are not hacked, yet they just lay all the blame on me as a convenient scapegoat. The thing that agitates me the most is that teachers keep all of their crap on one site and dont care to back it up. By the way, I was able to change anyones passwords on the system, STILL have access, and am not yet expelled.

Hacker Wrote:
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> I am the hacker, and to be honest, everyone can
> restore deleted data from their hard drive unless
> the drive was defragmented or reformatted, or
> massive file operations took place. My point of
> view is that the IT people are trying to cover
> their asses and are so inept they do not realize
> EVERYTHING deleted can be restored. It is FCPS
> responsibility to make sure the sites are not
> hacked, yet they just lay all the blame on me as a
> convenient scapegoat. The thing that agitates me
> the most is that teachers keep all of their crap
> on one site and dont care to back it up. By the
> way, I was able to change anyones passwords on the
> system, STILL have access, and am not yet
> expelled.


Prove it. Kill yourself.

They should charge malicious hackers the same way as if it were a physical building w/ paper information instead of a computer network:

Breaking and entering, criminal trespassing, destruction of property, burglary, etc.

Not much difference to me.

You could be jailed for your behavior.

I am the hacker, and to be honest, everyone can restore deleted data from their hard drive unless the drive was defragmented or reformatted, or massive file operations took place. My point of view is that the IT people are trying to cover their asses and are so inept they do not realize EVERYTHING deleted can be restored. It is FCPS responsibility to make sure the sites are not hacked, yet they just lay all the blame on me as a convenient scapegoat. The thing that agitates me the most is that teachers keep all of their crap on one site and dont care to back it up. By the way, I was able to change anyones passwords on the system, STILL have access, and am not yet expelled.


Hey HACKER - first of all, you're not THE hacker of the Blackboard accounts being discussed here. You might be the hacker's parent though. Your sentence structure and vocabulary are much too advanced than the little $h*ts that hacked the site. My kid got the emails your brat sent out pretending to be the teacher and I read what was written...very poor english and spelling (not too mention a whacked-up version of the "birds and the bees"). Now that your little darling is home watching tv until you transfer him to another school, why don't you have your kid do something productive, maybe brush up on writing and sentence structure? Nice job parenting though, I'm sure you're proud of your little brat!

every1 shut up, ur all just complaining and doing nothing, complaining wont fix anything #wangnation

they got bored and they hacked blackboard because they wanted too
they got found out because people turned them in after they went around bragging
and punks() they are computer freaks that is their normal everyday language
I should know my locker is close to one of them

Blackboard has terrible security measures. The brothers used a vulnerability that someone exploited 2 years ago that HADN'T BEEN FIXED. Basically, they hacked Conjuguemos and found their teacher's password. Then they enrolled an admin into their class, and changed their password. Boom, total control.

There are free, open source alternatives that would cost FCPS about half as much as they pay for Blackboard. Even if they still want to use BB, WHY haven't they upgraded to version 9, which probably includes security fixes!?

@punks
I'd betcha it's the actual hacker.

Before you all criticize blackboard's security, I would like to add one thing. As a student in Lake Braddock, I know a lot about the recent hackings. My geometry teacher told the entire class how the hackers were able to get into the teacher's accounts. Apparently, they had made a fake blackboard site and emailed it to their teachers in an attempt to trick them into giving out their login info. This "hacking" was not due to a lack of security, but by gullible teachers who fell for an obvious trick.

I have seen one of the "vulgar" messages that were made by the hackers, but despite the inconvenience for students and teachers, I feel that this event wasn't harsh enough for expulsion. When you think about it, the Spanish teacher should have made back-up files anyway. Blackboard crashes all the time and any teacher with common sense would make a back up for every file that they upload. In addition, the hackers did not change any grades or directly harm the students in any way. Sure, the deleted files may cause an inconvenience to teachers and students, but suck it up. The teachers should have made backup files anyway.

The hackers were only in 8th grade. Don't be so suprised by the malicious messages. I've seen things happen in school which were way worse than this, people choking each other, bullying each other, and even abusive teachers. The worst punishment some of these juveniles got were 3 day suspensions. The hackers just make fun of teachers, erase info, and they're the ones get expelled. What the hell?

Morons that don't understand technology are so quick to accuse people of 'hacking'.
Social engineering, even if done over the internet, does NOT constitute hacking.

They grew up being yelled at all the time by their parents, so they felt that this would gain them attention, but the form of the attention doesn't matter. And yes, they are geniuses, but they wouldn't have accessed any of the teachers' financial information, like the teachers say they would have, they are just kids. And The teachers should have known this would happen sometime, and they should have backed up their files.

These were some of the smartest kids I ever knew.They didnt find a note with the passwords, they used patches in the server to get it. They even changed the ip adress on thier computer to seem like they were in various foriegn countries. They only got caught because they were told on, because they were obviously the only ones who could do the hacking.

Its sort of a shame, they could do math that was on par with calculus students.

abc Wrote:
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> These were some of the smartest kids I ever
> knew.They didnt find a note with the passwords,
> they used patches in the server to get it. They
> even changed the ip adress on thier computer to
> seem like they were in various foriegn countries.
> They only got caught because they were told on,
> because they were obviously the only ones who
> could do the hacking.
>
> Its sort of a shame, they could do math that was
> on par with calculus students.


wat? dey noe hao 2 change da IP adrresis? wow leet hackars!

It's called a fucking proxy, and it's not impressive in the slightest.

a student (and friend) of the hacker Wrote:
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> Blackboard has terrible security measures. The
> brothers used a vulnerability that someone
> exploited 2 years ago that HADN'T BEEN FIXED.
> Basically, they hacked Conjuguemos and found their
> teacher's password. Then they enrolled an admin
> into their class, and changed their password.
> Boom, total control.
>
> There are free, open source alternatives that
> would cost FCPS about half as much as they pay for
> Blackboard. Even if they still want to use BB, WHY
> haven't they upgraded to version 9, which probably
> includes security fixes!?

Yes, it's a problem that it wasn't patched, but you are almost making it sound like your friends had a right to go in there and mess around. Which they didn't. Poor security doesn't get them off the hook.

Hello. WHY DIDNT THE STUPID SPANISH TEACHER GET PUNISHED FOR USING THE SAME PASSWORDS AND WHY ARE YOU BLAMING IT ALL ON ME.

HACKER Wrote:
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> Hello. WHY DIDNT THE STUPID SPANISH TEACHER GET
> PUNISHED FOR USING THE SAME PASSWORDS AND WHY ARE
> YOU BLAMING IT ALL ON ME.

I know you're not the hacker, and just trolling, but I'll bite.


Your argument is basically comparable to a situation where a homeowner doesn't use a dead bolt, but only the lock on the knob itself. After using a credit card to slip into the house and ransack their living room, you're upset you're being charged and think the homeowner is also to blame for such lax security.

Better get a good lawyer to make that one fly in court.

I understand that the Blackboard system is damaged to the point of severely obstructing the educational process. However, the Information Technology (IT) Department of FCPS did not respond well. The messages could have easily been deleted and files restored within 24 hours. However, because the IT people were quite inept (They didn't know that Blackboard had any vulerabilities), they escalated the situation by shutting down Blackboard. All the files could have easily been recovered in a few MINUTES by the average computer user. It takes a 30 second Google search to find a solution. However, this did not happen. In addition, the absolutely foolish Spanish teachers used the SAME passwords (not even appending a number after it) for their Conjuguemos accounts and their Blackboard accounts. They also did not realize that registering on a site that allows ypu to see unencrypted passwords is a colossal mistake. Also, the Blackboard software is 2 versions out of date. THE UPDATES ARE ABSOLUTELY FREE! Therefore, the staff of FCPS are partly to blame for the unnecessary academic disruption.

I AM THE HACKER BY THE WAY AND THE POST ABOVE THIS ONE WAS WRITTEN BY ME.

Okay I am gonna break it down......
#1) Parents should look at all logs of childrens use n never give their p/w #2) there are ways for parents to filter sites so no computer in the house can be used in malicious ways or "obscene" sites be seen. #3 parents work a good deal of the time so it is not quite as simple as just do #'s 1 n 2 problem solved.

My older brother, a computer whiz programming in JAVA, Pearl and a dinasaur age language by early teens n that was Geeze 30 years ago. If there is one thing I learned is a DNA number n isp number and a few others that tract all we do. We no longer have any privacy.

Like I go to the store with say 20. dollars. My literally life saving medication is 22 dollars. It shows up on the screen right on the computer screen that you only have 20 not 22 n so now anyone standing around you know it too. Discusting..... so you can't cover your OPS butt cause It's not possible.
Noone anywhere has privacy anymore... The government can jump right into your cell phone n listen in, check your logs n even that one chip that you can't erase anything from. I think its the black box. So the idea to tell them they shouldn't do that IF they can't be smart enough to cover their ISP bits" holds no water but maybe time in court n sentenced to to seperate community service routes picking up garbage in those Orange suites in places people who know them in school may teach them somehow.

I do not think Hygiene or adult detention's wise since there are much very better hackers in there. They will build their skills n lock em up n throw away the key isn't the answer all the time.... I think community service n probation n have computers literally locked up in a fire safe until probation is over or even house arrest with tutors so they do not fall behind.

I bet they thought putting those rude comments and fake assignments or whatever was funny n unaware of the domino effect of the damage the prank caused.

For what It's worth those are my thoughts.


Rayne

is it true that some convicted hackers are prohibited from using a computer ever again as a condition of their sentence?

I am so surprised, these boys live in our neighborhood. They seem to be very good well behaved kids, so this is so shocking to me. This is a case of maturity of keeping up with talent. Parents of gifted children have to learn to guide them to be productive to society, and channel their energy properly. Hope they learn their lesson, or they will continue to use their talent the wrong way and do even more harm when they are older. Their parents must be devastated.

WOW. anyways, these people were my classmates, i don't think they're that bad, thou i havent reely talked to them before. From what i heard they were braging all about it to everyone. And yes, some people also turned them in. Pretty sure they got expelled, thou i dont think they should have been. and to the person that doesnt believe that this 'hacker' person isnt the hacker, shut up. he mite b that person. (though not sure...) and YES. we actually DO have the smarts to write like that idiot. We're freaking GT students. that writing he just wrote, is WAAAAAAYYYYY worse then our real writing. id call that casual writing. dont doubt our skills.

FCPS needs to rethink its approach to computer security.

A decade ago, middle school students were hacking into the FCPS computer systems as a lark. I called the Department of Information Technology and suggested that they address this problem, but declined to provide them with the names of any students. Their response was that they did not believe any student could hack into the system, and nothing that I said could convince them otherwise.

HA! What idiots!! XD

student from LB Wrote:
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> WOW. anyways, these people were my classmates, i
> don't think they're that bad, thou i havent reely
> talked to them before. From what i heard they were
> braging all about it to everyone. And yes, some
> people also turned them in. Pretty sure they got
> expelled, thou i dont think they should have been.
> and to the person that doesnt believe that this
> 'hacker' person isnt the hacker, shut up. he mite
> b that person. (though not sure...) and YES. we
> actually DO have the smarts to write like that
> idiot. We're freaking GT students. that writing he
> just wrote, is WAAAAAAYYYYY worse then our real
> writing. id call that casual writing. dont doubt
> our skills.

I know this is old, but how the hell did you learn? If you have kids in middle school then I know you had to have been finishing school when computers became available...the internet was just starting...flashcards and writing it out is the best way to learn, physically moving your body to learn something is so helpful, how did you learn to walk? Did you read about it in book and understand it and do it? No. You got your ass up and did it. I'm so sorry your kid has to hand write things like the rest of us did in school growing up...poor her. There are worse things in life. This is NOT something to bitch about.
I bet the teacher didn’t make up that shit on her own either, your kid can find the information on other sites. Hell, get the kid Rosetta Stone.
Just think next time before you bitch about something as ridiculous as this.

Maybe you should learn to write correctly...holy shit kid, you can't spell. Stop writing how you text and stay awake in your MIDDLE SCHOOL Englsih class. Teachers in the future are going to FAIL you on your papers if you continue to write like this.

...but what about the girls basketball team?

^^^^ my last post is directed to "smart.kids"