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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: Hacksaw Renolds ()
Date: November 15, 2011 03:46PM

I'm glad I'm not on facebook if this is the stupid stuff that you all talk about.

Boring!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: November 15, 2011 04:42PM

Dina Ahmad brought this on herself

1) she hooked up with known dirty guy Seth Comstock, therefore contracting Hep C

2) she wouldnt give poor Seth Comstock the time of day and told him to "SCRAM"

3) Dina Ahmad told us Seth comstock has aids, when he really only has Hep c

4) seth understandably retaliate.

 

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Date: November 15, 2011 04:44PM

She is quite rotund.

(but that is my opinion)

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2011 05:26PM by Pinhead the Cenobite.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: November 15, 2011 04:47PM

Shouldn't her father be stoning her to death for bringing such slutty disgrace to the Ahmad name?

 

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: friend ()
Date: November 15, 2011 04:48PM

Dina Did not make that post about him having AIDS. I know that for a fact

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: friend ()
Date: November 15, 2011 04:57PM

Seriously do you guys have anything better to do? Shes at home taking care of her kids, shouldn't you guys be with your family or at work? Seth won't even man up and admit he posted this bullshit. instead he's being a bitch and hiding behind his computer screen. He needs to grow the fuck up and leave Dina's family alone.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Date: November 15, 2011 04:59PM

She has kids? Does she know who the father is?

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: friend ()
Date: November 15, 2011 05:02PM

Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> She has kids? Does she know who the father is?

you obviously did not even read the first post. and yes she does know who the father is.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: at her behest? ()
Date: November 15, 2011 05:06PM

friend Wrote:
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> Dina Did not make that post about him having AIDS.
> I know that for a fact


Her boy toy Carlos did.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: friend ()
Date: November 15, 2011 05:10PM

Carlos was a fake facebook account that Seth made to spread bullshit.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: PORT ()
Date: November 15, 2011 05:22PM

SHE HAS AIDS NOW

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Date: November 15, 2011 05:49PM

friend Wrote:
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> Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > She has kids? Does she know who the father is?
>
> you obviously did not even read the first post.
> and yes she does know who the father is.


But of course. That would explain the rotund belly and face.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: victum ()
Date: November 15, 2011 06:01PM

woaaaaahhh lmao this shits gone bonkers, i posted this like 24 hours ago and now look, i dont even no who these people are all i no is seth was some dude she was seeing while i was fucking her, i shoulda known better yeah, everything i posted about dina and her family is true
and i have no remorse becuase of the hepititus c i fuckin have now,
im sure whoever seth is has gone nuts becuase of his infection or maybe cuase she was fuckin on him i dunno maybe he gave her the shit that she gave me, eether way she gets around and she lies to her mom and older brother mark about dating cuase there on her nuts about her havin more babies n drug problems,
sherif has a temper and has hit her but hes the more relaxed one about her hangin with druggies cuz he partakes also and hooks her up with free weed, she smokes daily.

heres another fun fact, dina told me that her brothers friends one time raped her when she was on special k in d.c. punched her when she was fading out and she woke up in hospital...and her reason for telling me this was becuase her brother started selling special k along with the weed and she hoped not to see those friends of his around....great brother

dinas best friend cindy is a coke head and alcholic who has druggies in an out of her apartment regularly and dina stays over there with the kids weekly, mostly on weekends and people gettin fuckd up comin in and out the house with the children present, thats were me and her would hook up at cindys apartment, her kids would wake up in the room and be like u guys dont have any clothes onn

she would also tell her kids to shut the fuck up wen we would be arguing. ive never seen her hit them though
but of course dinas gonna lie about this shit, so whatever shit happens hopfully shel become a better fuckin person 1 day and i need to choose better females instead of x gang member mom who passes std

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: friend ()
Date: November 15, 2011 06:14PM

First off, she does not have a brother named mark. quit making up bullshit

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: victum ()
Date: November 15, 2011 06:37PM

well whatever her older brothers name was thought it was mark, the one i couldent touch her infront of or talk about weed

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: to mario ()
Date: November 15, 2011 06:52PM

posting that ur gonna murder someone and then saying 'that's a threat' is just a bad as killing him. u actally can go to jail for that and since everyone here seems to want everyone locked up i dont doubt that seth would report you. so that was a dumbass move man. real smooth. and if this guy does end up dead u'll be the first they come after.

think before u post. idiots

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: cindy tosty? ()
Date: November 15, 2011 07:00PM

cindy who? toasty? cuz it says on facebook cindy is seth's sister

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: why delete fb? ()
Date: November 15, 2011 07:03PM

why delete ur facebook when ur pix and phone number is blasted online? does that really matter at this point? rofl

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: victum ()
Date: November 15, 2011 07:21PM

yeah cindy toasty

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: anal-izing Dina ()
Date: November 15, 2011 07:27PM

Dina Wrote:
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> SETH HAS FRENDS YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
---okay thanks for establishing that. it was obvious

YOU GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKER THIS WAS STARTED BY ME!
----we are glad ur admitting to it

>HES BEEN STALKING ME AND HAS THREATENED MY FAMILY AND MY KIDS
---so why havent u done anything?


> && THAT FORUM THAT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT HIM WAS PROBABLY WRITTEN BY HIM.
---i doubt that. this spelling and grammar arent that good

> GOOD THING I PRINTED OUT EVERYTHING

--great thing actually

> GO SUCK HIS NUTS I READ THAT HE LIKES THAT.
---where did u read this? i havent seen this?
i think u mean u have sucked his nuts and KNOW he likes it

in conclusion dina i think u should be careful who u sleep with

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: RAPED ON SPECIAL K? ()
Date: November 15, 2011 07:30PM

VICTUM WROTE
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heres another fun fact, dina told me that her brothers friends one time raped her when she was on special k in d.c. punched her when she was fading out and she woke up in hospital..

Special_K_Jeans_Promotion.gif

NOW I GET WHAT THIS MEANS!!!!!!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: phone home ()
Date: November 15, 2011 07:34PM

Dina looks like an E.T. with V.D.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: losing his job? ()
Date: November 15, 2011 07:39PM

Dina Wrote:
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> if you believed this after seeing my pictures your
> retarded.

"your retarded"
^ enough said.


this guy is stalking me. and for the
> faggot that is helping him ill find you and after
> you friend goes to jail, ill send your ass with
> him.

send them to jail for what? freedom of speech? "your retarded"


for everyone that posted
> a message your helping a stalker commit a crime.

you posted a message. so what crime are you committing?

> but do not involve my kids or my brother. do you understand
> that he can lose his job for something like this
> or that i can lose my kids for even something
> being said.

if u have nothing to hide u shouldnt be afraid of ur kids being taken away and ur brother cant lose his job if he doesnt sell drugs there but obviously he does if ur saying all this

you all are fucking gross to even let
> something happen like this. i despise all of you.
> your sick and immature.

rofl how did we let it happen? ur the one fucking random dudes and spreading ur legs and the clap!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: ladidadi ()
Date: November 15, 2011 07:44PM

I guess Dina had Seth's Cumstuck in her.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP THIS NOW ()
Date: November 15, 2011 07:49PM

DINA Wrote:
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> AND YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ME IN C VILL.
YES I HAVE
> I DO NOT HAVE HEP C.
YOU HAVE AIDS
>I DO NOT LOOK LIKE SNOOKYS ORANGE MIDGET ASS.
NO BUT U LOOK LIKE HER ORANGE MIDGET FAT FACE
>MY BROTHER DOES NOT SELL DRUGS.
TRUE. WEED IS NOT A DRUG
> YOU ALL HAVE TO STOP THIS NOW.
MAYBE IN UR DREAMS SNOOK

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: NAKED PIX OF DINA ()
Date: November 15, 2011 08:06PM

file.php?40,file=44822,filename=12904484




























PRETTY SURE HER HEART JUST SKIPPED A BEAT

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: November 15, 2011 08:45PM

Our HOTLINE is a HELP Line ...

We all need help taking care of our children. If you're concerned about a child's well-being ... or want to report or discuss a possible abuse or neglect situation ... or want advice, counseling, resources or help, please call:

Fairfax County's
Child Protective Services Hotline
703-324-7400
TTY 703-222-9452
Your call is confidential.

 

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: CPS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED ()
Date: November 15, 2011 09:22PM

called CPS. didnt tell them any facts or anything on this page but that i had heard things and they said they'd already gotten several complaints on this woman

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: Blam ()
Date: November 15, 2011 09:22PM



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DAMN!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: CPS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED ()
Date: November 15, 2011 09:24PM

i called. but i suggest others do the same to get it taken care of asap

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: sister ()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:07PM

Here is for you dumbasses that are talking shit about Dina. She is a great mother, SETH COMSTOCK has issues as you can see from his arrests/tickets and if you don't believe it look him up yourselves. Seth you're fucked we have all the shit you've done to stalk and harrass Dina. As soon as you get caught you're FUCKED.

LOOK AT SETH'S RECORD HE HAS CHILD ABUSE/NEGLECT ON THERE HIMSELF.
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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: sister ()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:10PM

From Seths own 'friend' to Dina on Facebook
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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: old news fail ()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:12PM

His arrest record was already posted earlier...nice photo upload...ever heard of a screen shot or copy and paste? Lol

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: rofl what a dumb bitch ()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:22PM

wow poor ackmed doesn't know wtf copy and paste is

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: sister ()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:26PM

Obviously i'm not on the computer you fucking idiot. I'm gathering all the evidence and am on my phone you piece of shit idiot.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: fake ()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:28PM

No date stamp or name of his friend? You could have faked this message today...I call bullshit!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: obviously ()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:29PM

ur just a dumbass sand nigger when ur on ur phone on here theres a special icon that shows that. so stop lying. god damn. ur a liar.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: Jim Moran ()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:31PM

So how is the pussy?

Can you all settle down and just post the pictures?

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: mutual friend ()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:42PM

why dont you include the posts from your facebook where you told chris that seth was your man, or the wall post between you and seth about seth peeing on you

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: retarded lying bitch ()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:48PM

sister Wrote:
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> Obviously i'm not on the computer you fucking
> idiot. I'm gathering all the evidence and am on my
> phone you piece of shit idiot.


I'm a fucking idiot?


You can copy and paste on any smartphone while on the internet.


So you took a picture of your phone's screen and uploaded it via what? A fucking computer! Lol


There is no way that large of a screen photo came from a phone. It was a photo of a computer monitor uploaded via a computer.

Not only are you an idiot who doesn't know how to copy and paste, but you are also a liar who used a computer to do this and lied about it saying you used your phone to cover the fact that you are an idiot who can't copy and paste.


You are a complete moron and a bad liar!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Date: November 15, 2011 10:50PM

The beautiful thing is that if you look at the image coding close enough, you can get phone number and GPS location of where the photo was taken....

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: Jim Moran ()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:58PM

Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> The beautiful thing is that if you look at the
> image coding close enough, you can get phone
> number and GPS location of where the photo was
> taken....


Really?!

No you can't. You are a complete moron!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Date: November 15, 2011 11:00PM

Guess you have never heard of the term - geotagging.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: sister ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:10PM

Actually you fucking dumbass, it's and ANDROID phone and you can do almost anything you can do from a computer on here. I'm sorry are you to fucking broke to afford a phone capable of doing such things? Maybe you should get your stupid self off the computer and get a fucking job that's not a fast food joint bitch

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Date: November 15, 2011 11:12PM

another use of the word "ass".

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: sister ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:17PM

Lol and that's what I thought.....clearly you are a lame piece of shit individual who needs to get a life. You've been on here since BEFORE I went to work with this afternoon! Loserrrrrrr

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: jimmy ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:20PM

Why would this seth guy post about himself having aids and to watch out? that makes no sense, If your gonna keep lying just get out of here and stop stirring things up obvuosly hes fucked in the head becuase he wants the girl back that left him hanging high and dry with a disease!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: alive. ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:25PM

sorry but with all the views this has already gotten in less than 24 hours this shit will be alive for a while

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: sister ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:26PM

He posted it so he could make it look like he had a legit reason to make some horrible thread like this about Dina. If Dina was actually a bad mother then I wouldn't defend her, and if she actually was this person that Seth is making you all believe she is then I wouldn't have even wrote on here. Dina is a good person and she does everything she can for her kids. So really can you all please stop? Seth has serious issues and when he is caught and arrested I really hope he gets the help he needs. One day maybe he can get his own kids back and get his life together. He owes Dina a sincere apology because rejection is a part of life and the fact that she rejected him shouldn't made him want to try and ruin someones life.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: sorry but ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:28PM

seth didnt even know about this. someone informed him of it

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: IT WASNT SETH ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:33PM

WHAT WHAT WHAT
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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: sister ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:37PM

You act as if Seth is innocent? Like he didn't do anything. He did make this post sweetheart we ready established that. Even if Dina did call him crazy, which he is, that doesn't mean he needs to do something like this. Call her phone 30 times in 4 minutes? Stalk her Facebook and message all her friends? Call and threaten to kill her and her kids? Seriously.....we have more than enough evidence of harrassment frok.Seth. Police and CPS have already heard from us mutiple times today so threaten all you want. Seth you're going to burn in hell, I hope you drop the soap when you are locked up. I hope your kids are far away and never have to be around a piece of crap person like you because you will do nothing but hurt them more than you already have.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: IT WASNT SETH ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:41PM

SEE ABOVE BITCH. U KEEP SAYING U GOT SHIT YET U HOES AINT MAKIN NO MOVES! AND WTF U CALL CPS FOR AND SAY? "OH HEY. IM A 15 YEAR OLD WHORE WITH 2 KIDS AND HEP C AND A PILE OF COKE ON MY TABLE BUT PLS DONT COME CHECK ANYTHING OUT I GOT THIS"

REALLY BITCH?! HOW DUMB IS U?! NO REALLY. WTF U SAY TO CPS? RUN IT BY ME 1 TIME SO I CAN LAUGH MY ASS OFF!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: get your lies straight sister ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:42PM

sister Wrote:
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> Actually you fucking dumbass, it's and ANDROID
> phone and you can do almost anything you can do
> from a computer on here. I'm sorry are you to
> fucking broke to afford a phone capable of doing
> such things? Maybe you should get your stupid self
> off the computer and get a fucking job that's not
> a fast food joint bitch.



You said you couldn't copy and paste from your phone, but anyone can copy and paste from any Android phone. I guess you really are too dumb to know how to copy and paste then.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: sister ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:47PM

Both of you dumb ass bitches.....lol I didn't see Seths record anywhere else and if it was posted on there I could give two fucks about it. I'll post is again and again and again to let everyone know what a piece of shit Seth and all his fuck face friends are.
Lmfaoooooo!!!! How dumb 'is I' hahahaha you dumbass wanna be ghetto ass bitch learn to fucking write correctly. Sweetheart there is a warrent for his ass and a restraining order so when they catch him you will see :-)

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: NO REALLY ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:49PM

HOW DUMB IS U?!?!?!?

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: WTF ()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:50PM

what's really funny is whoever started this def made their point. nearly 2,000 views combined in less than 24 hours. wIN!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: Vian ()
Date: November 16, 2011 12:17AM

not gonna lie i didnt know dina was like that but i know sherif does have sum good bud

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP! ()
Date: November 16, 2011 12:29AM

Do you people know that you've screwed the rest of your lives.

With all this crap on the web you've screwed the rest of your lives.

No health insurance (unless you have it now and don't need it OR plan on trying to keep it for life). My wife works for Blue Cross & Blue Shield and her co-worker's job, 8 hours a day 5 day a week is to look for ANY reason to deny a claim OR keep someone from getting insurance. My wife's co-worker spends ALL her time mining the web for ANY THING that can be used to benefit the company (denying a claim or keeping someone from obtaining their insurance benefits the company). With all this crap you all have put on the web... YOU'RE SCREWED!

ANY HR Department will look for stuff on you on the web BEFORE you're offered a job. 3 years ago I lost a job because a HR Department dug up some pictures of me drinking a beer at a previous job. This shocked me because I had deleted that photo and others before starting my job search. Unfortunately ANY THING that makes it onto the web is there for LIFE, whether you delete it or not. So you all can forget about EVER getting a good job... FOR LIFE! Plan on working for a small company that doesn't investigate candidates for a job and hope and pray you can keep that job for life.

Forget about getting a good apartment, condo or house. My friend couldn't get a condo he really wanted and ended up suing the management company that operated the condos because he learned the management company dug up photos of my friend having parties at his old apartment. What you all have put on here is a hell of a lot worse than pictures of my friend partying at his old apartment. So you all can forget about EVER getting a good apartment, condo or house.

My sister-in-law used to work for Capital One's credit card division and before extending credit to a member or possible member they'd do what they called a "character search" on that member. A "character search" would entail mining the web for anything that would give them an "idea" of what type of person you are. Too many bad things found meant you were not of "good character" and thus you may pose a risk to Capital One. So that person didn't get the extension of credit or become a member of Capital One. With what you'll have put on here, you are screwed for LIFE! If the "character" scale was 1 to 10 with 1 being VERY BAD and 10 being VERY GOOD, with what you all have put on here, I'd give you a rating of -10... (that's negative 10).
Oh, the people with the low "character" score were never told that's what they were rejected for, instead they would be told that too many collection activities, too many late payments, low credit score... etc., was the reason they were rejected.

You all have just screwed up the rest of your lives... the rest of your lives!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: bullshits ()
Date: November 16, 2011 12:33AM

they can have it deleted for a small fee. its not that hard. chill the fuck out bitch

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP! ()
Date: November 16, 2011 12:36AM

If you had read my post above you'd know that ANYTHING deleted can be found in the Internet archives... ANYTHING.
If you pay someone to "permanently" delete something from the web... you've just been scammed.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: bullshits ()
Date: November 16, 2011 01:04AM

if its deleted from here it'll be deleted online duh

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: the deal ()
Date: November 16, 2011 01:14AM

STOP! Wrote:
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> If you had read my post above you'd know that
> ANYTHING deleted can be found in the Internet
> archives... ANYTHING.
> If you pay someone to "permanently" delete
> something from the web... you've just been
> scammed.

By "internet archives" I assume you mean cached web pages?

Once content is removed from a webpage the next time it is "crawled" the cached (archived) page is updated to the current page (post deletion).


All search engines do this (crawl), in addition to the WayBackMachine, the true "internet archive" of the web (unless a website asks them not to; however, there have been cases where the Church of Scientology had WayBack delete content from websites critical of their religion without the webmasters' permission).


Bottom line is as follows: If a webmaster wants something gone for good, even from the "internet archives," all trace of said content can be removed permanently.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP! ()
Date: November 16, 2011 01:17AM

You don't get it! Read my post above (the 1st one), once something is put on the web it can be viewed or retrieved ANYTIME in yours or my lifetime. PERIOD!
The person who created this web site can make it unavailable, can take it down, delete it... etc., and you'll still be able to retrieve ANYTHING on this web site in 5 years, 10 years, 15 years... etc.
Once something is put on the web it's there for the life of the Internet. PERIOD!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: GO ()
Date: November 16, 2011 01:18AM

no one cares

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP! ()
Date: November 16, 2011 01:28AM

ALL the people who have shit written about them SHOULD care because this stuff is going to effect them the REST OF THEIR LIVES!

NO good job.
No good health insurance.
No good apartment, condo or house.
No good credit card.

In 5 years everyone who has stuff written about them WILL CARE as it's possible they may be living on the streets by that time if their parents don't take them in.

WAKE UP! EVERY important thing in your entire life will be effected by what is written on here about you! EVERYTHING!
My friends in their late 30's and 40's do background checks on the people they're dating... and for good reason... to find this stuff and avoid ever dating that person. All I need is a name and I can find out almost everything about you if I want to spend the money to get it. DOB, SSN, Bank Accounts, Criminal Record, School Records, Marriage Records, Real Estate Records... etc.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: incorrect ()
Date: November 16, 2011 01:30AM

STOP! Wrote:
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> You don't get it! Read my post above (the 1st
> one), once something is put on the web it can be
> viewed or retrieved ANYTIME in yours or my
> lifetime. PERIOD!
> The person who created this web site can make it
> unavailable, can take it down, delete it... etc.,
> and you'll still be able to retrieve ANYTHING on
> this web site in 5 years, 10 years, 15 years...
> etc.
> Once something is put on the web it's there for
> the life of the Internet. PERIOD!



Not true...

WayBack crawls pages as well, unless a webmaster specifically asks them not to; however, even then, there have been instances where third parties had them remove archival content without a webmaster's permission.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP! ()
Date: November 16, 2011 01:35AM

If you believe that I have some beach front property in Utah I can sell you.
Have someone do all the crap you just wrote and I can still retrieve whatever was deleted.
If you deleted pictures 5 years ago using a government computer and government software and I can still retrieve it.
As I said, ONCE you put something on the Internet it's viewable for the life of the Internet if you know where to look and want to pay someone to retrieve it.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: it's a conspiracy! ()
Date: November 16, 2011 01:48AM

STOP! Wrote:
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> If you believe that I have some beach front
> property in Utah I can sell you.
> Have someone do all the crap you just wrote and I
> can still retrieve whatever was deleted.
> If you deleted pictures 5 years ago using a
> government computer and government software and I
> can still retrieve it.
> As I said, ONCE you put something on the Internet
> it's viewable for the life of the Internet if you
> know where to look and want to pay someone to
> retrieve it.


Whatever you say, Alex Jones!

May I borrow your tinfoil hat?

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP! ()
Date: November 16, 2011 01:59AM

Find something you, a friend or family member deleted from their FB page 1 year ago, 5 years ago... etc., and I can retrieve it.

I simply came on here to tell you all to STOP and think about what you're putting down on this web site because it's going to effect you for your ENTIRE LIFE!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: Swatkd702 ()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:06AM

I always like the name Sara . Sounds pleasant, brings a smile to my face

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: Dont think it matters ()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:09AM

From these pics these girls look realy trashy and I wouldent argue that they would have stds possibly and serious problems, I think they have already planned out there futures, underage pregnancies and just the way these people are carrying themselfs, no hope!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: don't open this ()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:17AM

1,763 views as of 2:17am

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: wrong ()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:20AM

STOP! Wrote:
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> Find something you, a friend or family member
> deleted from their FB page 1 year ago, 5 years
> ago... etc., and I can retrieve it.
>
> I simply came on here to tell you all to STOP and
> think about what you're putting down on this web
> site because it's going to effect you for your
> ENTIRE LIFE!


How retarded are you? No one "mines" for information to deny claims = bullshit. They check basic records only. You must be some religious fuck that is repressed and thinks they are stopping sinners via the internet.

All this shit = nothing.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP ()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:43AM

wrong Wrote:
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> STOP! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Find something you, a friend or family member
> > deleted from their FB page 1 year ago, 5 years
> > ago... etc., and I can retrieve it.
> >
> > I simply came on here to tell you all to STOP
> and
> > think about what you're putting down on this
> web
> > site because it's going to effect you for your
> > ENTIRE LIFE!
>
>
> How retarded are you? No one "mines" for
> information to deny claims = bullshit. They check
> basic records only. You must be some religious
> fuck that is repressed and thinks they are
> stopping sinners via the internet.
>
> All this shit = nothing.


If you go back to my 1st post you will see that I have direct knowledge of mining and know for a fact that it's done. I don't care if you believe me or not, I have direct knowledge or have seen it done so I know for a fact that it's done. Read my 1st post.
By your lack of knowledge I'm guessing that you don't care now because you are still a kid living with your parents but when you leave high school and leave your parent's house you will learn that these things are done EVERY single day.
That's part of life...

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: youcunt ()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:44AM

STOP Wrote:
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> wrong Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > STOP! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Find something you, a friend or family member
> > > deleted from their FB page 1 year ago, 5
> years
> > > ago... etc., and I can retrieve it.
> > >
> > > I simply came on here to tell you all to STOP
> > and
> > > think about what you're putting down on this
> > web
> > > site because it's going to effect you for
> your
> > > ENTIRE LIFE!
> >
> >
> > How retarded are you? No one "mines" for
> > information to deny claims = bullshit. They
> check
> > basic records only. You must be some religious
> > fuck that is repressed and thinks they are
> > stopping sinners via the internet.
> >
> > All this shit = nothing.
>
>
> If you go back to my 1st post you will see that I
> have direct knowledge of mining and know for a
> fact that it's done. I don't care if you believe
> me or not, I have direct knowledge or have seen it
> done so I know for a fact that it's done. Read my
> 1st post.
> By your lack of knowledge I'm guessing that you
> don't care now because you are still a kid living
> with your parents but when you leave high school
> and leave your parent's house you will learn that
> these things are done EVERY single day.
> That's part of life...


you assume too much and are still WRONG

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP ()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:48AM

I DON'T assume anything, I have direct knowledge of it through family or friends actually doing it or I've seen it done.
Go back to my 1st post.
Later today I'll try and get you some examples of the mining that is done by companies.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: pleasedo ()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:54AM

STOP Wrote:
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> I DON'T assume anything, I have direct knowledge
> of it through family or friends actually doing it
> or I've seen it done.
> Go back to my 1st post.
> Later today I'll try and get you some examples of
> the mining that is done by companies.


please do, so i can come back here and not read your examples

you are delusional about the correlation of internet information and real life

get help now

ALL the things in your 1st post are fucking bullshit - a person could be the web-master of a KKK site and it would have NO effect on their life - using their real name and information - nothing would happen - ZERO

you could be a member of some sexual orgy midget fucking club online - real name etc....NOTHING is affected in your life - ZERO

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP ()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:03AM

oooooohhh ill show you! you make me soooo angryyy uurrgggg!!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: show me ()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:07AM

dina deleted her page. bring it back up liar

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP ()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:08AM

pleasedo Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> STOP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I DON'T assume anything, I have direct
> knowledge
> > of it through family or friends actually doing
> it
> > or I've seen it done.
> > Go back to my 1st post.
> > Later today I'll try and get you some examples
> of
> > the mining that is done by companies.
>
>
> please do, so i can come back here and not read
> your examples
>
> you are delusional about the correlation of
> internet information and real life
>
> get help now
>
> ALL the things in your 1st post are fucking
> bullshit - a person could be the web-master of a
> KKK site and it would have NO effect on their life
> - using their real name and information - nothing
> would happen - ZERO
>
> you could be a member of some sexual orgy midget
> fucking club online - real name etc....NOTHING is
> affected in your life - ZERO


Boy I'd like to know what drugs you are on because you are so delusional and naïve.

FROM TIME Magazine

Party Poopers: Colleges’ Admissions Departments Stalk Your Facebook

By Nick Carbone | @nickcarbone | February 27, 2011

We all know that employers check out your online persona, but the trend is spreading. Now your dirty laundry on the Internet could keep you out of college, too.

A new survey from Kaplan Test Prep reveals that 82 percent of admissions officers use Facebook in their recruiting. While this sounds like a positive spin on having an online presence – meaning the college of your dreams can see your interests and your favorite books. And maybe yours jive perfectly with that of the college’s dream student.

(More on TIME.com: See photos of Facebook around the world.)

But as the cliché goes, first impressions are everything. Which means they can most certainly see what you did last night, especially if your privacy settings are lacking.

So if your profile picture is you slurping down a beer bong, or if your status is a drunken jumble tapped out after the bar crawl ended at 4 a.m., it might be grounds for a rejection letter.

This is clearly a two-faced issue: admissions officers can learn a little about you by being able to see your Facebook profile. Just be sure they won’t get the wrong impression. May we suggest a default picture of you posing in front of your dream college? Can’t hurt to butter them up a little, since 4 out of 5 universities will be sizing you up.


That was just 1 or 100s of samples of how the crap about you on the Internet can effect your ENTIRE LIFE!

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP = fail ()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:26AM

wheres the proof? u didnt do shit i told u to do cuz its a lie. ur nuts.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP ()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:42AM

I just gave you 1 of 100s of examples of how negative stuff about you on the Internet can effect your life.

And as I said, I have actual proof from friends and family that do the data mining...
EXAMPLE

My wife works for Blue Cross & Blue Shield and her co-worker's job, 8 hours a day 5 day a week is to look for ANY reason to deny a claim OR keep someone from getting insurance. My wife's co-worker spends ALL her time mining the web for ANY THING that can be used to benefit the company (denying a claim or keeping someone from obtaining their insurance benefits the company). With all this crap you all have put on the web... YOU'RE SCREWED!

I've visited my wife at work MANY times and I've stood behind her co-worker and WATCHED her mine data on the Internet to deny a claim.

A man submitted a claim from an auto accident for a back injury for thousands of dollars but my wife's co-worker search the Internet ( in front of me ) and found that the man had replied to a www.MeetUp.com group in Richmond to go bowling the next night. An investigator was sent to the bowling alley and took pictures of the guy bowling and Blue Cross & Blue Shield denied the claim. This data mining saved BC & BS thousands of dollars and I watched as it was being done.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: no one cares ()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:43AM

stop posting ur worthless
stop posting

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP! ()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:54AM

STOP trying to tell me that anything I've written is not fact and I'll stop posting. I'll have no problems posting 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 examples to back up that everything I've written is true.
I'll have no problem posting from now until 6 PM with hundreds of pages of facts and/or examples to back up everything I've written about.
SO, stop trying to tell me that anything I've written is not the truth and I'll have no reason to add another post.
Or, I can start typing from now until 6 PM and add so many pages it will take everyone days to read it all or to find a post from someone else.
It's your choice...

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: ! ()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:57AM

are u getting angry or somethin? why did u add the "!"
stfu. this is all false. nothing u say is backing u up.
u said give u an example of something deleted.
i did that and u avoided it.
so everything u have posted is false info.
stop posting on here and go play in traffic.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: WTF ()
Date: November 16, 2011 04:00AM

STOP Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I just gave you 1 of 100s of examples of how
> negative stuff about you on the Internet can
> effect your life.
>
> And as I said, I have actual proof from friends
> and family that do the data mining...
> EXAMPLE
>
> My wife works for Blue Cross & Blue Shield and her
> co-worker's job, 8 hours a day 5 day a week is to
> look for ANY reason to deny a claim OR keep
> someone from getting insurance. My wife's
> co-worker spends ALL her time mining the web for
> ANY THING that can be used to benefit the company
> (denying a claim or keeping someone from obtaining
> their insurance benefits the company). With all
> this crap you all have put on the web... YOU'RE
> SCREWED!
>
> I've visited my wife at work MANY times and I've
> stood behind her co-worker and WATCHED her mine
> data on the Internet to deny a claim.
>
> A man submitted a claim from an auto accident for
> a back injury for thousands of dollars but my
> wife's co-worker search the Internet ( in front of
> me ) and found that the man had replied to a
> www.MeetUp.com group in Richmond to go bowling the
> next night. An investigator was sent to the
> bowling alley and took pictures of the guy bowling
> and Blue Cross & Blue Shield denied the claim.
> This data mining saved BC & BS thousands of
> dollars and I watched as it was being done.

this is all irrelevant. and no one is going to read your 'pages of info' all you are doing is bumping this thread up to the top and adding views to it each time. you are a moron. i second that you should die. in a fire or something. burn baby burn. you are not married. you would be sleeping next to your husband right now if you were. yet you are on here fighting with crackheads. so why don't you "STOP"

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: STOP! ()
Date: November 16, 2011 04:07AM

You didn't give me anything.
As I said, I'll have NO problems posting 100s of pages of facts and examples to back up what I've said as fact.
You see how we're on page 2 of this thread. If you want I'll start posting examples and facts to back up what I've written is fact and take this thread to page 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20... etc., it will take you days to find other posts beside mine.
I've got plenty of time on my hands and can type 65 wpm.
As I said, stop trying to convince yourself that anything I've said is not fact and stop posting that anything I've written is not fact and I won't add another post.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: yagirII ()
Date: November 16, 2011 04:09AM

i dare yew to take it tew 21 pages bet yew cant\wont so stfu

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: ur an idiot ()
Date: November 16, 2011 04:13AM

STOP! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

, it
> will take you days to find other posts beside
> mine.
> I've got plenty of time on my hands and can type
> 65 wpm.

i see that u have plenty of time on ur hands.

shitty marriage? is she fucking a black guy?

anyway ur an idiot. its not like the pages start from newest to old so if ppl didnt want to read ur shit they just simply wouldnt and dont have to. so u fail at that threat. only the first 2 pages of this shit matters anyway. ur just trying to draw attention away from the fact that dina ahmad is an std infested coke head whore. nothing u say matters and its all false info anyway.

good day sir.

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: WTF ()
Date: November 16, 2011 04:15AM

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: I DONT STOP ()
Date: November 16, 2011 04:20AM

My wife is on a business trip and I'm home this week watching the kids. As I said I have plenty of time on my hands.


TIME MAGAZINE:

Data Mining: How Companies Now Know Everything About You

Three hours after I gave my name and e-mail address to Michael Fertik, the CEO of Reputation.com, he called me back and read my Social Security number to me. "We had it a couple of hours ago," he said. "I was just too busy to call."

In the past few months, I have been told many more-interesting facts about myself than my Social Security number. I've gathered a bit of the vast amount of data that's being collected both online and off by companies in stealth — taken from the websites I look at, the stuff I buy, my Facebook photos, my warranty cards, my customer-reward cards, the songs I listen to online, surveys I was guilted into filling out and magazines I subscribe to.
(See pictures of a Facebook server farm.)


Google's Ads Preferences believes I'm a guy interested in politics, Asian food, perfume, celebrity gossip, animated movies and crime but who doesn't care about "books & literature" or "people & society." (So not true.) Yahoo! has me down as a 36-to-45-year-old male who uses a Mac computer and likes hockey, rap, rock, parenting, recipes, clothes and beauty products; it also thinks I live in New York, even though I moved to Los Angeles more than six years ago. Alliance Data, an enormous data-marketing firm in Texas, knows that I'm a 39-year-old college-educated Jewish male who takes in at least $125,000 a year, makes most of his purchases online and spends an average of only $25 per item. Specifically, it knows that on Jan. 24, 2004, I spent $46 on "low-ticket gifts and merchandise" and that on Oct. 10, 2010, I spent $180 on intimate apparel. It knows about more than 100 purchases in between. Alliance also knows I owe $854,000 on a house built in 1939 that — get this — it thinks has stucco walls. They're mostly wood siding with a little stucco on the bottom! Idiots.

EXelate, a Manhattan company that acts as an exchange for the buying and selling of people's data, thinks I have a high net worth and dig green living and travel within the U.S. BlueKai, one of eXelate's competitors in Bellevue, Wash., believes I'm a "collegiate-minded" senior executive with a high net worth who rents sports cars (note to Time Inc. accounting: it's wrong unless the Toyota Yaris is a sports car). At one point BlueKai also believed, probably based on my $180 splurge for my wife Cassandra on HerRoom.com, that I was an 18-to-19-year-old woman.

RapLeaf, a data-mining company that was recently banned by Facebook because it mined people's user IDs, has me down as a 35-to-44-year-old married male with a graduate degree living in L.A. But RapLeaf thinks I have no kids, work as a medical professional and drive a truck. RapLeaf clearly does not read my column in TIME.
(See 25 websites you can't live without.)


Intellidyn, a company that buys and sells data, searched its file on me, which says I'm a writer at Time Inc. and a "highly assimilated" Jew. It knows that Cassandra and I like gardening, fashion, home decorating and exercise, though in my case the word like means "am forced to be involved in." We are pretty unlikely to buy car insurance by mail but extremely likely to go on a European river cruise, despite the fact that we are totally not going to go on a European river cruise. There are tons of other companies I could have called to learn more about myself, but in a result no one could have predicted, I got bored.

Each of these pieces of information (and misinformation) about me is sold for about two-fifths of a cent to advertisers, which then deliver me an Internet ad, send me a catalog or mail me a credit-card offer. This data is collected in lots of ways, such as tracking devices (like cookies) on websites that allow a company to identify you as you travel around the Web and apps you download on your cell that look at your contact list and location. You know how everything has seemed free for the past few years? It wasn't. It's just that no one told you that instead of using money, you were paying with your personal information.

The Creep Factor
There is now an enormous multibillion-dollar industry based on the collection and sale of this personal and behavioral data, an industry that Senator John Kerry, chair of the Subcommittee on Communications, Technology and the Internet, is hoping to rein in. Kerry is about to introduce a bill that would require companies to make sure all the stuff they know about you is secured from hackers and to let you inspect everything they have on you, correct any mistakes and opt out of being tracked. He is doing this because, he argues, "There's no code of conduct. There's no standard. There's nothing that safeguards privacy and establishes rules of the road."

At Senate hearings on privacy beginning March 16, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) will be weighing in on how to protect consumers. It has already issued a report that calls upon the major browsers to come up with a do-not-track mechanism that allows people to choose not to have their information collected by companies they aren't directly doing business with. Under any such plan, it would likely still be O.K. for Amazon to remember your past orders and make purchase suggestions or for American Express to figure your card was stolen because a recent purchase doesn't fit your precise buying patterns. But it wouldn't be cool if they gave another company that information without your permission.
(See "Will FTC's 'Do Not Track' Go Even Further than Expected?")

Taking your information without asking and then profiting from it isn't new: it's the idea behind the phone book, junk mail and telemarketing. Worrying about it is just as old: in 1890, Louis Brandeis argued that printing a photograph without the subject's permission inflicts "mental pain and distress, far greater than could be inflicted by mere bodily harm." Once again, new technology is making us weigh what we're sacrificing in privacy against what we're gaining in instant access to information. Some facts about you were always public — the price of your home, some divorce papers, your criminal records, your political donations — but they were held in different buildings, accessible only by those who filled out annoying forms; now they can be clicked on. Other information was not possible to compile pre-Internet because it would have required sending a person to follow each of us around the mall, listen to our conversations and watch what we read in the newspaper. Now all of those activities happen online — and can be tracked instantaneously.

Part of the problem people have with data mining is that it seems so creepy. Right after I e-mailed a friend in Texas that I might be coming to town, a suggestion for a restaurant in Houston popped up as a one-line all-text ad above my Gmail inbox. But it's not a barbecue-pit master stalking me, which would indeed be creepy; it's an algorithm designed to give me more useful, specific ads. And while that doesn't sound like all that good a deal in exchange for my private data, if it means that I get to learn when the next Paul Thomas Anderson movie is coming out, when Wilco is playing near my house and when Tom Colicchio is opening a restaurant close by, maybe that's not such a bad return.

Since targeted ads are so much more effective than nontargeted ones, websites can charge much more for them. This is why — compared with the old banners and pop-ups — online ads have become smaller and less invasive, and why websites have been able to provide better content and still be free. Besides, the fact that I'm going to Houston is bundled with the information that 999 other people are Houston-bound and is auctioned by a computer; no actual person looks at my name or my Houston-boundness. Advertisers are interested only in tiny chunks of information about my behavior, not my whole profile, which is one of the reasons M. Ryan Calo, a Stanford Law School professor who is director of the school's Consumer Privacy Project, argues that data mining does no actual damage.
(See "How Facebook Is Redefining Privacy.")

"We have this feeling of being dogged that's uncomfortable," Calo says, "but the risk of privacy harm isn't necessarily harmful. Let's get serious and talk about what harm really is." The real problem with data mining, Calo and others believe, arises when the data is wrong. "It's one thing to see bad ads because of bad information about you. It's another thing if you're not getting a credit card or a job because of bad information," says Justin Brookman, the former chief of the Internet bureau of the New York attorney general's office, who is now the director of the Center for Democracy and Technology, a nonprofit group in Washington.
(Comment on this story.)


Russell Glass, the CEO of Bizo — which mines the fact that people are business executives and sells that info to hundreds of advertisers such as American Express, Monster.com, Citibank, Sprint and Google — says the newness of his industry is what scares people. "It's the monster-under-the-bed syndrome," Glass says. "People are afraid of what they really don't understand. They don't understand that companies like us have no idea who they are. And we really don't give a s — -. I just want a little information that will help me sell you an ad." Not many people, he notes, seem to be creeped out by all the junk mail they still get from direct-marketing campaigns, which buy the same information from data-mining companies. "I have a 2-year-old daughter who is getting mail at my home address," he says. "That freaks me out."

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Re: Dina Ahmad spreading Hepatitis C in our community
Posted by: bloody bIisters ()
Date: November 16, 2011 04:22AM

too long
didnt read

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Posted by: I DONT STOP ()
Date: November 16, 2011 04:23AM

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Why That Ad Is Following You
Junk mail is a familiar evil that's barely changed over the decades. Data mining and the advertising it supports get more refined every month. The latest trick to freak people out is retargeting — when you look at an item in an online store and then an ad for that item follows you around to other sites.

Last year, Zappos was the most prominent company in the U.S. to go all out in behavioral retargeting. And people got pissed off. One of the company's mistakes was running ads too frequently and coming off as an annoying, persistent salesman. "We took that brick-and-mortar pet peeve and implied it online," says Darrin Shamo, Zappos' director of direct marketing. Shamo learned, the hard way, that people get upset when their computer shows lingerie ads, even if they had been recently shopping for G-strings, since people share computers and use them in front of their kids. He also learned that ads that reveal potential Christmas gifts are bad for business.
(See a brief history of online shopping.)

Since then, Zappos has been experimenting with new ads that people will see no more than five times and for no longer than eight days. Zappos has also dumbed the ads down, showing items that aren't the ones you considered buying but are sort of close, which people greatly prefer. And much like Amazon's "Customers who bought 1984 also bought Brave New World"–style recommendation engine, the new ads tell people what Zappos knows about them and how they got that information ("a company called Criteo helps Zappos to create these kinds of personalized ads"). It also tells them how they can opt out of seeing them ("Some people prefer rainbows. And others prefer unicorns. If you prefer not to see personalized ads, we totally get it").

If that calms the angry 15% of the people who saw these ads, Zappos will stick with them. Otherwise, it plans on quitting the retargeting business. Shamo thinks he'll just need to wait until the newness wears off and people are used to ads tailored for them. "Sometimes things don't move as fast as you think," he says.
(Read about Shoefitr, a service that helps shoppers buy shoes online.)

They're not even moving that much faster with the generation that grew up with the Internet. While young people expect more of their data to be mined and used, that doesn't mean they don't care about privacy. "In my research, I found that teenagers live with this underlying anxiety of not knowing the rules of who can look at their information on the Internet. They think schools look at it, they think the government looks at it, they think colleges can look at it, they think employers can look at it, they think Facebook can see everything," says Sherry Turkle, a professor at MIT who is the director of the Initiative on Technology and Self and the author of Alone Together: Why We Expect More from Technology and Less From Each Other. "It's the opposite of the mental state I grew up in. My grandmother took me down to the mailbox in Brooklyn every morning, and she would say, 'It's a federal offense for anyone to look at your mail. That's what makes this country great.' In the old country they'd open your mail, and that's how they knew about you."
(Comment on this story.)


Data mining, Turkle argues, is a panopticon: the circular prison invented by 18th century philosopher Jeremy Bentham where you can't tell if you're being observed, so you assume that you always are. "The practical concern is loss of control and loss of identity," says Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center. "It's a little abstract, but that's part of what's taking place."

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The Facebook and Google Troves
Our identities, however, were never completely within our control: our friends keep letters we've forgotten writing, our enemies tell stories about us we remember differently, our yearbook photos are in way too many people's houses. Opting out of all those interactions is opting out of society. Which is why Facebook is such a confusing privacy hub point. Many data-mining companies made this argument to me: How can I complain about having my Houston trip data-mined when I'm posting photos of myself with a giant mullet and a gold chain on Facebook and writing columns about how I want a second kid and my wife doesn't? Because, unlike when my data is secretly mined, I get to control what I share. Even narcissists want privacy. "It's the difference between sharing and tracking," says Bret Taylor, Facebook's chief technology officer.

To get into the Facebook office in Palo Alto, Calif., I have to sign a piece of physical paper: a Single-Party Non-Disclosure Agreement, which legally prevents me from writing the last paragraph. But your privacy on Facebook — that's up to you. You choose what to share and what circle of friends gets to see it, and you can untag yourself from any photos of you that other people put up. However, from a miner's point of view, Facebook has the most valuable trove of data ever assembled: not only have you told it everything you like, but it also knows what your friends like, which is an amazing predictor of what you'll like.
(See "Your Thoughts About Facebook.")

Facebook doesn't sell any of your data, partly because it doesn't have to — 23.1% of all online ads not on search engines, video or e-mail run on Facebook. But data-mining companies are "scraping" all your personal data that's not set to private and selling it to any outside party that's interested. So that information is being bought and sold unless you squeeze your Facebook privacy settings tight, which keeps you from a lot of the social interaction that drew you to the site in the first place.

The only company that might have an even better dossier on you than Facebook is Google. In a conference room on the Google campus, I sit through a long privacy-policy PowerPoint presentation. Summary: Google cares! Specifically, Google keeps the data it has about you from various parts of its company separate. One category is the personally identifiable account data it can attach to your name, age, gender, e-mail address and ZIP code when you signed up for services like Gmail, YouTube, Blogger, Picasa, iGoogle, Google Voice or Calendar. The other is log data associated with your computer, which it "anonymizes" after nine months: your search history, Chrome browser data, Google Maps requests and all the info its myriad data trackers and ad agencies (DoubleClick, AdSense, AdMob) collect when you're on other sites and Android phone apps. You can change your settings on the former at Google Dashboard and the latter at Google Ads Preferences — where you can opt out of having your data mined or change the company's guesses about what you're into.

Nicole Wong, deputy general counsel at Google, says the company created these tools to try to reassure people who have no idea how all this information is being collected and used. "When I go to TIME.com as a user, I think only TIME.com is collecting my data. What I don't realize is that for every ad on that page, a company is also dropping a code and collecting my data. It's a black box — and we've tried to open up the box. Sometimes you're not even sure who the advertisers are. It's just a bunch of jumping monkeys or something." Google really does want to protect your privacy, but it's got issues. First, it's profit-driven and it's huge. But those aren't the main reasons privacy advocates get so upset about Google. They get upset because the company's guiding philosophy conflicts with the notion of privacy. As the PowerPoint says right up top: "Google's mission: to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." Which is awesome, except for the fact that my information is part of the world's information.
(See "Quilting for Data: How Google Gets Information from Inside People's Heads.")

Tracking the Trackers
To see just what information is being gathered about me, I downloaded Ghostery, a browser extension that lets you watch the watchers watching you. Each time you go to a new website, up pops a little bubble that lists all the data trackers checking you out. This is what I discovered: the very few companies that actually charge you for services tend not to data mine much. When you visit TIME.com, several dozen tracking companies, with names such as Eyeblaster, Bluestreak, DoubleClick and Factor TG, could be collecting data at any given time.

If you're reading this in print as a subscriber, TIME has probably "rented" your name and address many times to various companies for a one-time use. This is also true if you subscribe to Vanity Fair, Cosmopolitan or just about any other publication.
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This being America, I don't have to wait for the government to give me an opt-out option; I can pay for one right now. Michael Fertik, the CEO and founder of Reputation.com, who nabbed my Social Security number, will do it for me for just $8.25 a month. His company will also, for a lot more money, make Google searches of your name come up with more flattering results — because when everyone is famous, everyone needs a public relations department. Fertik, who clerked for the chief judge of the Sixth Circuit after graduating from Harvard Law School, believes that if data mining isn't regulated, everyone will soon be assigned scores for attractiveness and a social-prowess index and a complainer index, so companies can avoid serving you — just as you now have a credit score that they can easily check before deciding to do business with you. "What happens when those data sets are used for life transactions: health insurance, employment, dating and education? It's inevitable that all of these decisions will be made based on machine conclusions. Your FICO score is already an all-but-decisional fact about you. ABD, dude! All but decisional," says Fertik.

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Even if I were to use the services of Reputation.com, there's still all the public information about me that I can't suppress. Last year, thousands of people sent their friends a Facebook message telling them to opt out of being listed on Spokeo.com, which they described as the creepiest paparazzo of all, giving out your age, profession, address and a photo of your house. Spokeo, a tiny company in Pasadena, Calif., is run by 28-year-old Stanford grad Harrison Tang. He was surprised at the outcry. "Some people don't know what Google Street View is, so they think this is magic," Tang says of the photos of people's homes that his site shows. The info on Spokeo isn't even all that revealing — he purposely leaves off criminal records and previous marriages — but Tang thinks society is still learning about data mining and will soon become inured to it. "Back in the 1990s, if you said, 'I'm going to put pictures on the Internet for everyone to see,' it would have been hard to believe. Now everyone does it. The Internet is becoming more and more open. This world will become more connected, and the distance between you and me will be a lot closer. If everybody is a walled garden, there won't be an Internet."

I deeply believe that, but it's still too easy to find our gardens. Your political donations, home value and address have always been public, but you used to have to actually go to all these different places — courthouses, libraries, property-tax assessors' offices — and request documents. "You were private by default and public by effort. Nowadays, you're public by default and private by effort," says Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an advocacy group for digital rights. "There are all sorts of inferences that can be made about you from the websites you visit, what you buy, who you talk to. What if your employer had access to information about you that shows you have a particular kind of health condition or a woman is pregnant or thinking about it?" Tien worries that political dissidents in other countries, battered women and other groups that need anonymity are vulnerable to data mining. At the very least, he argues, we're responsible to protect special groups, just as Google Street View allows users to request that a particular location, like an abused-women's shelter, not be photographed.
(See the top 10 Twitter moments of 2010.)

Other democratic countries have taken much stronger stands than the U.S. has on regulating data mining. Google Street View has been banned by the Czech Republic. Germany — after protests and much debate — decided at the end of last year to allow it but to let people request that their houses not be shown, which nearly 250,000 people had done as of last November. E.U. Justice Commissioner Viviane Reding is about to present a proposal to allow people to correct and erase information about themselves on the Web. "Everyone should have the right to be forgotten," she says. "Due to their painful history in the 20th century, Europeans are naturally more sensitive to the collection and use of their data by public authorities."

After 9/11, not many Americans protested when concerns about security seemed to trump privacy. Now that privacy issues are being pushed in Congress, companies are making last-ditch efforts to become more transparent. New tools released in February for Firefox and Google Chrome browsers let users block data collecting, though Firefox and Chrome depend on the data miners to respect the users' request, which won't stop unscrupulous companies. In addition to the new browser options, an increasing number of ads have a little i (an Advertising Option Icon), which you can click on to find out exactly which companies are tracking you and what they do. The technology behind the icon is managed by Evidon, the company that provides the Ghostery download. Evidon has gotten more than 500 data-collecting companies to provide their info.

It takes a lot of work to find out about this tiny little i and even more to click on it and read the information. But it also took people a while to learn what the recycling symbol meant. And reading the info behind the i icon isn't necessarily the point, says Evidon CEO Scott Meyer, who used to be CEO of About.com and managed the New York Times' website. "Do I look at nutritional labeling? No. But would I buy a food product that didn't have one? Absolutely not. I would be really concerned. It's accountability."
(See "Google Street View Goes Off-Roading.")

FTC chairman Jon Leibowitz has been pleased by how effective he's been at using the threat of legislation to scare companies into taking action and dropping their excuse that they don't know anything about you personally, just data associated with your computer. "We used to have a distinction 10 years ago between personally identifiable information and non-PII. Now those distinctions have broken down." In November, Leibowitz hired Edward Felten, the Princeton computer-science professor famous for uncovering weaknesses in electronic-voting machines and digital-music protection, to serve as the FTC's chief technologist for the next year. Felten has found that the online-advertising industry is as eager as the government is for improved privacy protections. "There's a lot of fear that holds people back from doing things they would otherwise do online. This is part of the cost of privacy uncertainty. People are a little wary of trying out some new site or service if they're worried about giving their information," Felten says.

He's right: oddly, the more I learned about data mining, the less concerned I was. Sure, I was surprised that all these companies are actually keeping permanent files on me. But I don't think they will do anything with them that does me any harm. There should be protections for vulnerable groups, and a government-enforced opt-out mechanism would be great for accountability. But I'm pretty sure that, like me, most people won't use that option. Of the people who actually find the Ads Preferences page — and these must be people pretty into privacy — only 1 in 8 asks to opt out of being tracked. The rest, apparently, just like to read privacy rules.
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We're quickly figuring out how to navigate our trail of data — don't say anything private on a Facebook wall, keep your secrets out of e-mail, use cash for illicit purchases. The vast majority of it, though, is worthless to us and a pretty good exchange for frequent-flier miles, better search results, a fast system to qualify for credit, finding out if our babysitter has a criminal record and ads we find more useful than annoying. Especially because no human being ever reads your files. As I learned by trying to find out all my data, we're not all that interesting.

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JK I KILLED MY WIFE AND CURRENTLY MOLESTING OUR KIDS

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I KILLED MY WIFE

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IM MOLESTING MY KIDS

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Track Back. Use these sites to protect yourself and your information

Reputation.com
For $8.25 a month, the site, founded by CEO Fertik, will work to keep trackers off your browser. For more, it'll massage the results of a Google self-search into something more flattering

PrivacyChoice.org
This site tells you only what Google, Yahoo, BlueKai, Bizo and eXelate know, but it also lists more than 300 tracking companies and helps you opt out of being tracked by them

Ghostery.com
With this free download, every time you go to a website, a pop-up window tells you all the companies that are grabbing your data

Your Browser
Forget your browser's "privacy" option; that just prevents people borrowing your computer from seeing what sites you've been to. New features on Firefox and Chrome allow you to request that companies not mine your data

NetworkAdvertising.org and AboutAds.info
There's no one clearinghouse where you can put yourself on a "do not track" list, but you can opt out of data mining by all members of these two industry associations


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2058205,00.html#ixzz1drJ1lbqX

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l DONT STOP Wrote:
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> IM MOLESTING MY KIDS


u need help

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