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Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: MadAsHELL! ()
Date: November 07, 2011 06:24PM

I can only assume that some person who likes to bike around Reston has decided they are going to turn Reston streets into bike pathways. First Lawyers road(was 4 lanes) had 2 lanes removed and given to bicyclists, now Soapstone lane(was 4 lanes) had 2 lanes removed has be repainted.

THERE ARE FUCKING DEDICATED PATHWAYS FOR BICYCLISTS ALL OVER RESTON! MORE THAN ANY PLACE ELSE!! THEY WERE PUT IN FOR BICYCLISTS!! USE THEM!!! STOP REPAINTING RESTON STREETS AND CAUSING SAFETY ISSUES!

YES MOTORISTS ARE PISSED OFF AND WE WANT THE NAME OF THE MORON FUCKING UP THE STREETS!

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Safe25 ()
Date: November 07, 2011 06:42PM

Join the Fairfax County supporters for "Fairfax Safe Bicycles 25mph Act."

It's a very simple ordinance to pass. Ban bicyclists from any Fairfax county road over 25mph. This will increase safety for both motorists and bicyclists.

It's the safe option for both motorists and bicyclists. There's no reason for a bicycle to be on a road over 25mphs.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Cyclist ()
Date: November 07, 2011 06:45PM

Safe25 Wrote:
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> Join the Fairfax County supporters for "Fairfax
> Safe Bicycles 25mph Act."
>
> It's a very simple ordinance to pass. Ban
> bicyclists from any Fairfax county road over
> 25mph. This will increase safety for both
> motorists and bicyclists.
>
> It's the safe option for both motorists and
> bicyclists. There's no reason for a bicycle to be
> on a road over 25mphs.

Piss off.
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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Safety First ()
Date: November 07, 2011 06:58PM

On this morning I find yet another sad story in The Clarion-Ledger of a bicyclist losing their life from a collision with a motor vehicle ("Ole Miss student struck by car, killed," Oct. 9).

If the information reported is correct, this happened on a two-lane road with a 45 mile-per-hour speed limit. Mississippi 314 also has little to no shoulder near the area said to be the scene.

Now is the time for everyone to wake up and realize that bicycles don't belong on roads with speed limits greater than 25 miles per hour.

Recently while working in Fayetteville, Ark., I missed a bicyclist by about a foot. This bicyclist decided to cross in front of me while I was turning on an interstate on-ramp during nighttime hours. It was only luck that he was not hit because I had no warning and no time to stop as he darted in front of me.

New laws need to be put on the books that not only protect the bicyclist from themselves, but also protect the motorists that collide with the bicyclists that made the decision to put themselves in harm's way.

Riding a bike on a road or highway with a speed limit greater than that of a cruising bicycle should be outlawed. Motorists are also tired of cyclists that decide to get on four-lane city streets and then ride in traffic as if they are a motor vehicle at some ridiculously low speed compared to that of the vehicles around them.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Ass ()
Date: November 07, 2011 07:01PM

Cyclist Wrote:
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> Piss off.

That guy who put that biker in his place in DC is a hero. Gay cyclists like yourself need to stop obstructing traffic.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: November 07, 2011 07:13PM

Safe25 Wrote:
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> Join the Fairfax County supporters for "Fairfax
> Safe Bicycles 25mph Act."
>
> It's a very simple ordinance to pass. Ban
> bicyclists from any Fairfax county road over
> 25mph. This will increase safety for both
> motorists and bicyclists.
>
> It's the safe option for both motorists and
> bicyclists. There's no reason for a bicycle to be
> on a road over 25mphs.


link?

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Kilton ()
Date: November 07, 2011 07:13PM

MadAsHELL! Wrote:
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> I can only assume that some person who likes to
> bike around Reston has decided they are going to
> turn Reston streets into bike pathways.

What are you talking about? Lanes are dangerous. The less of them we have, the better off we all are. VDOT cares about your safety.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: November 07, 2011 07:33PM

Kilton Wrote:
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> What are you talking about? Lanes are dangerous.
> The less of them we have, the better off we all
> are.
VDOT cares about your safety.


Didn't a village in England remove all of the lines and signs from their major roadway(s) for a year and discover that incidents dramatically decreased?

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: wnrsm ()
Date: November 07, 2011 07:43PM

Now I have no way around some fuckstick on his mobile phone going 10mph under the speed limit.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: curious ()
Date: November 07, 2011 07:47PM

Traffic sucks around here for at least six hours a day. You could probably make it there faster on a bike . . .

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Neville ()
Date: November 07, 2011 11:28PM

Hmmm. So road crashes cost us billions annually?

"D.C. area crashes add up: $7.4 billion a year"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/commuting/dc-area-crashes-add-up-74-billion/2011/11/02/gIQAu67piM_story.html

And a "road diet" reduces crashes by about 6% in one comparison study.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/research/safety/humanfac/04082/index.cfm

Sounds to me like the road dieters are on to something.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: george ()
Date: November 07, 2011 11:44PM

The last time I encountered that was a few years ago on the Arthur Burkhardt Expressway. Some asshole turned four lanes into two! I guess they wanted it to be "a two lane comfort cruise" or something...

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Taylor ()
Date: November 07, 2011 11:46PM

george Wrote:
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> The last time I encountered that was a few years
> ago on the Arthur Burkhardt Expressway. Some
> asshole turned four lanes into two! I guess they
> wanted it to be "a two lane comfort cruise" or
> something...


Wow, you'd almost need a 55 gallon drum of paint thinner to fix a thing like that.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: November 08, 2011 12:43AM

Neville Wrote:
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> Hmmm. So road crashes cost us billions annually?
>
> "D.C. area crashes add up: $7.4 billion a year"
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/commuting/dc-a
> rea-crashes-add-up-74-billion/2011/11/02/gIQAu67pi
> M_story.html
>
> And a "road diet" reduces crashes by about 6% in
> one comparison study.
>
> http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/research/safe
> ty/humanfac/04082/index.cfm
>
> Sounds to me like the road dieters are on to
> something.


Who the fuck cares about crashes and how much they cost, we lose a lot more money becuase of the time we waste sitting in traffic. More capacity = less time wasted

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Kilton ()
Date: November 08, 2011 06:13AM

Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> Didn't a village in England remove all of the
> lines and signs from their major roadway(s) for a
> year and discover that incidents dramatically
> decreased?

Wow, never heard that one. Let's not give VDOT any ideas.

Neville Wrote:
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> Sounds to me like the road dieters are on to something.

Sounds to me like you're an idiot. How about we just make every road one lane?

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: November 08, 2011 07:03AM

Yeah, we have dedicated bicycle lanes, and they're called "Paths'. We have more paths than anywhere I've ever been, and some of the nicest scenery and varied terrain on them as well.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Pathways ()
Date: November 08, 2011 11:43AM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> Yeah, we have dedicated bicycle lanes, and they're
> called "Paths'. We have more paths than anywhere
> I've ever been, and some of the nicest scenery and
> varied terrain on them as well.

Agreed so take the gay & lesbian bike clubs and use them on the pathway and stay the f off the roads in Reston for safety reasons.

Why the hell should Reston be reducing motorists lanes and adding bicycle lanes when the bicycle pathways are completely under utilized right now.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Buck Fikers ()
Date: November 08, 2011 12:03PM

Safe25 Wrote:
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> Join the Fairfax County supporters for "Fairfax
> Safe Bicycles 25mph Act."
>
> It's a very simple ordinance to pass. Ban
> bicyclists from any Fairfax county road over
> 25mph. This will increase safety for both
> motorists and bicyclists.
>
> It's the safe option for both motorists and
> bicyclists. There's no reason for a bicycle to be
> on a road over 25mphs.

That's the best idea I've heard in a while. Is that seriously a possibility?

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: SafeBiking ()
Date: November 08, 2011 01:41PM

Yes, the language is being drafted and hopefully the county can vote on the act soon. It's never to late to save lives and make the roads safer for all Fairfax county residents.

No more near misses and head on collisions due to moving around slow bikers.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: theShadowToo ()
Date: November 08, 2011 02:46PM

I don't see this happening anytime soon.

Fairfax has no control over the roads; they're VDOT's domain and state law says which roads cyclists are allowed to ride on, not local jurisdictions (this might be different for independent cities and counties that maintain their own roads).

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Laws ()
Date: November 08, 2011 03:06PM

theShadowToo Wrote:
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> I don't see this happening anytime soon.
>
> Fairfax has no control over the roads; they're
> VDOT's domain and state law says which roads
> cyclists are allowed to ride on, not local
> jurisdictions (this might be different for
> independent cities and counties that maintain
> their own roads).

Wrong. Fairfax County can pass ordinances and laws. An example is requiring all Fairfax county cars to have Fairfax county stickers to use the roads.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: theShadowToo ()
Date: November 08, 2011 04:03PM

Laws Wrote:
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>
> Wrong. Fairfax County can pass ordinances and
> laws. An example is requiring all Fairfax county
> cars to have Fairfax county stickers to use the
> roads.


You're right in that Fairfax can pass ordinances and laws, but not as they relate to road use; that's managed by the state code. Those specific to bikes can be found at http://www.virginiadot.org/programs/bk-laws.asp.

Fairfax County's website is rather sparse when it comes to bike laws. They can be found at http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/fcdot/bike/bikesafety.htm, but basically there's only one: kids under 15 must wear a helmet.

For the record, Fairfax hasn't issued stickers since 2006. When they did, however, they were only to denote that the vehicle's property tax had been paid. (While they were used to indicate the vehicle's owner had paid the property tax on the vehicle, they were not used as a means to allow vehicles to use the roads. That's not to say you couldn't be pulled over for not having one, but it wasn't like you'd be arrested or otherwise be prevented from driving off after getting pulled over.)

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Berdhuis ()
Date: November 08, 2011 04:24PM

Only at the state level can cyclists be more restricted in their use of roads - VDOT governs their use, not Fairfax County. Anyone is free to appeal to Richmond to remove cyclists from roads with speed limits up to 45 mph, though.

But guess what? The World Road Cycling Championships for 2015 are to be held in (and around) Richmond, VA. So any complaints would be falling on deaf ears, more than likely.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Drill Sgt. ()
Date: November 08, 2011 04:33PM

Safe25 Wrote:
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> Join the Fairfax County supporters for "Fairfax
> Safe Bicycles 25mph Act."
>
> It's a very simple ordinance to pass. Ban
> bicyclists from any Fairfax county road over
> 25mph. This will increase safety for both
> motorists and bicyclists.
>
> It's the safe option for both motorists and
> bicyclists. There's no reason for a bicycle to be
> on a road over 25mphs.

Everybody in my family will be joining this!

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: 69 47 69 74 ()
Date: November 08, 2011 06:32PM


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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Bikestakethelane ()
Date: November 08, 2011 08:41PM

Thank you for acknowledging the fact that Bicycles have as much right to local roads as cars do. That is right - if you are on a bike and need to make a left turn you can take the lane and make that left.

If the shoulder is not safe enough to ride you are allowed by law to take the entire lane if you chose on your bike.

Sorry Fatties, people with healthy hearts are allowed to use the roads too.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: youareanidiot ()
Date: November 08, 2011 08:43PM

You cannot pass it it is unconstitutional. Cyclists have as much right to the road for their tax dollars as your car you fat fuck.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Krispie Kream ()
Date: November 08, 2011 08:46PM

Buck Fikers Wrote:
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> Safe25 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Join the Fairfax County supporters for "Fairfax
> > Safe Bicycles 25mph Act."
> >
> > It's a very simple ordinance to pass. Ban
> > bicyclists from any Fairfax county road over
> > 25mph. This will increase safety for both
> > motorists and bicyclists.
> >
> > It's the safe option for both motorists and
> > bicyclists. There's no reason for a bicycle to
> be
> > on a road over 25mphs.
>
> That's the best idea I've heard in a while. Is
> that seriously a possibility?

Sure and maybe we can ban baby carriages from side walks... Look you Obese jerk some of us actually can still use our bodies to move around God's earth.

You better be careful or we will ban your fat ass from being too slow walking across the parking lot of Krispie Kream - then where would you be?

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: bike paths ()
Date: November 08, 2011 08:49PM

Great I am looking forward to all the bike paths the government is going to have to pay for once they ban a common form of transportation. Maybe while they are at it they can ban drivers that cannot wait an extra 60 seconds to pass a cyclist on a hill. Gosh that must happen to all of us at least once or twice a year.

Jackass

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: bikerider ()
Date: November 08, 2011 08:55PM

ALL YOUR ROAD ARE BELONG TO US!!!

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: admitit` ()
Date: November 08, 2011 09:16PM

MadAsHELL! Wrote:
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> I can only assume that some person who likes to
> bike around Reston has decided they are going to
> turn Reston streets into bike pathways. First
> Lawyers road(was 4 lanes) had 2 lanes removed and
> given to bicyclists, now Soapstone lane(was 4
> lanes) had 2 lanes removed has be repainted.
>
> THERE ARE FUCKING DEDICATED PATHWAYS FOR
> BICYCLISTS ALL OVER RESTON! MORE THAN ANY PLACE
> ELSE!! THEY WERE PUT IN FOR BICYCLISTS!! USE
> THEM!!! STOP REPAINTING RESTON STREETS AND CAUSING
> SAFETY ISSUES!
>
> YES MOTORISTS ARE PISSED OFF AND WE WANT THE NAME
> OF THE MORON FUCKING UP THE STREETS!


Come on admit it - between McDonalds and your home you and your fat family members would not stop for anything less than a Starbucks Mint Chocolaty Chip Frappachino would you?

They should just issue cyclists doughnuts to toss on the road to assuage impatient fatties like you...

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: MadAsHELL! ()
Date: November 08, 2011 09:45PM

admitit` Wrote:
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> MadAsHELL! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I can only assume that some person who likes to
> > bike around Reston has decided they are going
> to
> > turn Reston streets into bike pathways. First
> > Lawyers road(was 4 lanes) had 2 lanes removed
> and
> > given to bicyclists, now Soapstone lane(was 4
> > lanes) had 2 lanes removed has be repainted.
> >
> > THERE ARE FUCKING DEDICATED PATHWAYS FOR
> > BICYCLISTS ALL OVER RESTON! MORE THAN ANY PLACE
> > ELSE!! THEY WERE PUT IN FOR BICYCLISTS!! USE
> > THEM!!! STOP REPAINTING RESTON STREETS AND
> CAUSING
> > SAFETY ISSUES!
> >
> > YES MOTORISTS ARE PISSED OFF AND WE WANT THE
> NAME
> > OF THE MORON FUCKING UP THE STREETS!
>
>
> Come on admit it - between McDonalds and your home
> you and your fat family members would not stop for
> anything less than a Starbucks Mint Chocolaty Chip
> Frappachino would you?
>
> They should just issue cyclists doughnuts to toss
> on the road to assuage impatient fatties like
> you...

You are completely wrong. I am a vegan and I run daily. This just goes to show the ignorance of cyclists. I'm all for cycling, just not on major roadways. Especially roads with heavy traffic such a Lawyers or Soapstone.

Unfortunately it won't be until cyclists start getting killed by cars that you'll understand my concern. A cyclist is no match for a car of truck going 35-50 MPHS.

By the way, everybody is laughing at your leotard outfits.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: BassMap ()
Date: November 09, 2011 12:58PM

bikerider Wrote:
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> ALL YOUR ROAD ARE BELONG TO US!!!


+1,000,000

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: NoBikesOver25MPHS ()
Date: November 09, 2011 01:26PM

BassMap Wrote:
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> bikerider Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ALL YOUR ROAD ARE BELONG TO US!!!
>
>
> +1,000,000

Not for long. Fairfax Safe Bike Act 25! No cyclists on roads over 25MPHS!

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: BikeVsCar ()
Date: November 09, 2011 01:36PM

Bike Vs Car


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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: ConcernedForSafety ()
Date: November 09, 2011 08:10PM

Who is designing these county bike routes. Seriously... FOX MILL RD between Stuart Mill and Lawyers Rd is a bike route???
Attachments:
foxmillrd.jpg

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: BikeyBye ()
Date: November 10, 2011 11:58AM

What the hell was she doing on the highway riding her bike? WTF?????


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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: bobby ()
Date: November 10, 2011 01:12PM

FYI, the pathways in Reston are NOT safe for cycling. Sure they might be ok for a 5 year old riding at 5-6 MPH but not for a group of 10+ cyclists moving at speeds in excess of 25 MPH. Some of you need to relax a little bit and not be in such a rush all the time, share the road with your neighbor. Slowing to pass a cyclist might take 10 seconds of your time, it's not like you have to drive your entire commute behind a cyclist riding below the speed limit.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: YEP ()
Date: November 10, 2011 02:08PM

Yeah the "ban bikes from roads over 25MPH" movement is absurd. Basically it is a ban on anything other than recreational biking, and by recreational I mean just riding a couple miles around your home neighborhood. Your idea basically puts a stop to the nationally recognized take your bike to work day and prevents residents from using bikes to run errands or save gas. Sorry Safe25 but I think with everyone going green your proposal is DOA, also not even legal as a county ordinance, but keep pushing it rather than pushing another one of your bad ideas that might pass.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Not Worth It ()
Date: November 10, 2011 02:18PM

Lots of bike riders use the tortuous roads around Clifton (e.g., Fairfax Station Road) for their recreational pleasure. It is damn near impossible to pass these people when I can't see over the next hill or around the next corner. And I'm sure not going to take their wave as a sign that there is no oncoming traffic. Yes, the scenery is lovely, but these are still heavily traveled commuter thoroughfares, and bikes don't belong on them.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: true ()
Date: November 10, 2011 02:21PM

bobby Wrote:
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> FYI, the pathways in Reston are NOT safe for
> cycling. Sure they might be ok for a 5 year old
> riding at 5-6 MPH but not for a group of 10+
> cyclists moving at speeds in excess of 25 MPH.
> Some of you need to relax a little bit and not be
> in such a rush all the time, share the road with
> your neighbor. Slowing to pass a cyclist might
> take 10 seconds of your time, it's not like you
> have to drive your entire commute behind a cyclist
> riding below the speed limit.

+100 a cyclist will rarely cause more than a few second delay. If they are blocking traffic it is likely on a hill where there is no shoulder. Leave you home 5 minutes early and you would live longer and enjoy life more.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Kilton ()
Date: November 10, 2011 02:36PM

I love how cyclists say that drivers shouldn't be in so much of a hurry, when a high percentage of these cyclists can't be bothered to stop at stop signs. So you're allowed to be in a hurry, but no one else is. Got it. :-)

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: bobby ()
Date: November 10, 2011 04:25PM

Fairfax Station Rd = heavily traveled commuter thoroughfares - uh not really dude, 123/Braddock/66/7100/50 = heavily traveled commuter thoroughfare

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Kimmy ()
Date: November 10, 2011 04:44PM

bobby Wrote:
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> FYI, the pathways in Reston are NOT safe for
> cycling. Sure they might be ok for a 5 year old
> riding at 5-6 MPH but not for a group of 10+
> cyclists moving at speeds in excess of 25 MPH.
> Some of you need to relax a little bit and not be
> in such a rush all the time, share the road with
> your neighbor. Slowing to pass a cyclist might
> take 10 seconds of your time, it's not like you
> have to drive your entire commute behind a cyclist
> riding below the speed limit.

Please, bicycles are lucky to break 25mph with a wind pushing them down a steep incline. Roads over 25 mphs are no place for cyclists. I always have to slow down and pass in the other lane to go around bicycles. It's not safe.

There are plenty of pathways for the "Breaking Away" want a be kiddies. How about the local track at the high school and the C&O railroad path.

Stop playing with your bikes on our roads, we have stuff to do!

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Not Worth It ()
Date: November 10, 2011 06:30PM

bobby Wrote:
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> Fairfax Station Rd = heavily traveled commuter
> thoroughfares - uh not really dude,
> 123/Braddock/66/7100/50 = heavily traveled
> commuter thoroughfare

I guess you've never been stuck in the traffic jam through Clifton. Tons of cut-through drivers going to/coming from Manassas and other places.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Your nemesis.. ()
Date: November 10, 2011 09:28PM

Kimmy Wrote:
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> Please, bicycles are lucky to break 25mph with a
> wind pushing them down a steep incline. Roads
> over 25 mphs are no place for cyclists.

It appears you've never ridden a bicycle w/o training wheels...

Just because your fat ass can't get up to 25mph doesn't mean no one else can..

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Vet ()
Date: November 11, 2011 12:21PM

Just remember, before you want to go hating on all cyclists, that many rehabilitation programs for our nation's wounded warriors revolve around bicycles. Some of these are custom made for the more seriously injured, but many are not and the vets just ride regular bikes. They all rely on the low impact nature of cycling for their rehabilitation.

Other veterans (without physical wounds) just ride bikes.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: shocked-n-saddened ()
Date: November 11, 2011 08:04PM

Vet Wrote:
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> Just remember, before you want to go hating on all
> cyclists, that many rehabilitation programs for
> our nation's wounded warriors revolve around
> bicycles. Some of these are custom made for the
> more seriously injured, but many are not and the
> vets just ride regular bikes. They all rely on
> the low impact nature of cycling for their
> rehabilitation.
>
> Other veterans (without physical wounds) just ride
> bikes.

Judging by the sentiments on display here, I think you just lost veterans some support. Risking life and limb for your country and all is fine, but get in my way...

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: SafeBiking ()
Date: November 14, 2011 08:08PM

Vet Wrote:
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> Just remember, before you want to go hating on all
> cyclists, that many rehabilitation programs for
> our nation's wounded warriors revolve around
> bicycles. Some of these are custom made for the
> more seriously injured, but many are not and the
> vets just ride regular bikes. They all rely on
> the low impact nature of cycling for their
> rehabilitation.
>
> Other veterans (without physical wounds) just ride
> bikes.

Give me a break. The permanent closing of two lanes of traffic is pissing off Vet's just as much as regular motorists. Don't try to bring veterans in to this to spin your personal bike path.

Plain and simple this was a moronic idea and should have never been funded by the taxpayers of Virginia.

I'm with the poster who is petitioning to get bike banned from roads over 25 mph.

There is no reason for a bike to be on roads with 35-75mph speeds.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Hay Zeus ()
Date: November 14, 2011 08:35PM

Its ridiculous to inconvenience 100,000's of people for the sake a few elitists who want to make themselves feel good about riding their bikes. YOU'RE the selfish ones.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: bobby ()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:14PM

Kimmy Wrote:
> Please, bicycles are lucky to break 25mph with a
> wind pushing them down a steep incline. Roads
> over 25 mphs are no place for cyclists. I always
> have to slow down and pass in the other lane to
> go around bicycles. It's not safe.
>
> There are plenty of pathways for the "Breaking
> Away" want a be kiddies. How about the local
> track at the high school and the C&O railroad
> path.
>
> Stop playing with your bikes on our roads, we have
> stuff to do!


Exactly OUR roads, so share them and relax a little. Sorry you have to slow down to pass a cyclist and lose 5-10 seconds of your day. I guess it also pisses you off when you have to slow down/stop for a bus when it stops to pick up/drop off passsengers. Maybe we should also ban all public transportation from our roads.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: flawed logic ()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:22PM

bobby Wrote:
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> Exactly OUR roads, so share them and relax a
> little. Sorry you have to slow down to pass a
> cyclist and lose 5-10 seconds of your day. I
> guess it also pisses you off when you have to slow
> down/stop for a bus when it stops to pick up/drop
> off passsengers. Maybe we should also ban all
> public transportation from our roads.

apples & oranges, you dumbfuck.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Fuck bikes and buses ()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:16PM

bobby Wrote:
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> Kimmy Wrote:
> > Please, bicycles are lucky to break 25mph with
> a
> > wind pushing them down a steep incline. Roads
> > over 25 mphs are no place for cyclists. I
> always
> > have to slow down and pass in the other lane
> to
> > go around bicycles. It's not safe.
> >
> > There are plenty of pathways for the "Breaking
> > Away" want a be kiddies. How about the local
> > track at the high school and the C&O railroad
> > path.
> >
> > Stop playing with your bikes on our roads, we
> have
> > stuff to do!
>
>
> Exactly OUR roads, so share them and relax a
> little. Sorry you have to slow down to pass a
> cyclist and lose 5-10 seconds of your day. I
> guess it also pisses you off when you have to slow
> down/stop for a bus when it stops to pick up/drop
> off passsengers. Maybe we should also ban all
> public transportation from our roads.


Oh please. The state of VA doesn't spend hundreds of millions of dollars building and improving roads each year so you can ride your bike on them. Especially in this area where very few people actually NEED to ride a bike. Most of them are just dicking around. Dick around on your own time.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: bobby ()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:59PM

I'm not asking for any moeny to be spent on roads so I can ride my bike on them, they are fine just the way they are. I'll ride my bike on them when I want and where I want.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Kilton ()
Date: November 16, 2011 07:16PM

flawed logic Wrote:
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> apples & oranges, you dumbfuck.

I guess we need a new term. We already have "rider logic" for motorcycle riders. Now we also have "cyclist logic".

I don't know that the latter could possibly compete with the former, but anything is possible.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Lazy Mobster ()
Date: November 17, 2011 07:09AM

It took me 3 stop lights to get through the glade/south lakes intersection last night. Great idea VDOT.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Mikeymike ()
Date: November 17, 2011 11:25PM

Imma get a big fat slow ass Kmart bicycle and ride it in front of these lance wannabes. When they all get stacked up behind me and my asshole slowpoke, cheap bike riding friends, we'll see how patient they really are.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Neville ()
Date: November 18, 2011 12:45AM

So, your plan is to ban bicycles from many roads in Fairfax County for the safety and convenience of drivers? You want to make everyone drive a car or motorcycle to make the local economy work better by making commutes faster by a few seconds for commuters in cars. . .

Wait a minute, though. Why does your plan just stop with bicycles? There are a lot of things out there on the road that delay you, and many of them are shaped like cars.

How about 17-year-old drivers who could just as easily take the school bus?
How about banning people going out for a pleasure drive at any time when individuals are working?
How about just banning retirees from driving at any time when individuals are working?
What about substellar drivers who consistently speed and crash?
Oh, but what if a bicycle rider is a substellar driver himself and is less of a risk to others on a bicycle? That person would be better on a bike, right?
How about specifically banning housewifes driving to get nails done? That's particularly frivolous, right?
And parents who could just as easily let their child take the school bus or walk or even ride a bicycle to school?
How about drivers of gas guzzlers that aren't as thifty as your bicycle Honda Civic, and hence consume much more gasoline, increasing the trade deficit, enriching OPEC, and increasing the price of gasoline for everyone else?

On the other hand, some may argue that freedom to travel is a cherished part of our American political tradition. Any plan to limit access to the roads clashes with a fundamental "Freedom of Movement" for U.S. citizens.

"In all the States from the beginning down to the adoption of the Articles of Confederation the citizens thereof possessed the fundamental right, inherent in citizens of all free governments, peacefully to dwell within the limits of their respective States, to move at will from place to place therein, and to have free ingress thereto and egress therefrom, with a consequent authority in the States to forbid and punish violations of this fundamental right."

http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldoc=1920535254US281_1494.xml&docbase=CSLWAR1-1950-1985

Limiting freedom of travel doesn't really sound like something our founding fathers would endorse, since they didn't like unnecessary restrictions on citizens' behavior. Sounds to me like you are really saying you just want to speed, and you don't want to pay attention to your surroundings and take due care to avoid hitting bicyclists, pedestrians, deer, trash cans, or other vehicles.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: sumguy ()
Date: November 18, 2011 10:55AM

Maybe next time you will vote Republican. This is what you get when you put Liberals in office they spend your tax dollars on making you miserable.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: more flawed logic ()
Date: November 18, 2011 10:56AM

Neville Wrote:
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> So, your plan is to ban bicycles from many roads
> in Fairfax County for the safety and convenience
> of drivers? You want to make everyone drive a car
> or motorcycle to make the local economy work
> better by making commutes faster by a few seconds
> for commuters in cars. . .
>
> Wait a minute, though. Why does your plan just
> stop with bicycles? There are a lot of things out
> there on the road that delay you, and many of them
> are shaped like cars.
>
> How about 17-year-old drivers who could just as
> easily take the school bus?
> How about banning people going out for a pleasure
> drive at any time when individuals are working?
> How about just banning retirees from driving at
> any time when individuals are working?
> What about substellar drivers who consistently
> speed and crash?
> Oh, but what if a bicycle rider is a substellar
> driver himself and is less of a risk to others on
> a bicycle? That person would be better on a bike,
> right?
> How about specifically banning housewifes driving
> to get nails done? That's particularly frivolous,
> right?
> And parents who could just as easily let their
> child take the school bus or walk or even ride a
> bicycle to school?
> How about drivers of gas guzzlers that aren't as
> thifty as your bicycle Honda Civic, and hence
> consume much more gasoline, increasing the trade
> deficit, enriching OPEC, and increasing the price
> of gasoline for everyone else?
>
> On the other hand, some may argue that freedom to
> travel is a cherished part of our American
> political tradition. Any plan to limit access to
> the roads clashes with a fundamental "Freedom of
> Movement" for U.S. citizens.
>
> "In all the States from the beginning down to the
> adoption of the Articles of Confederation the
> citizens thereof possessed the fundamental right,
> inherent in citizens of all free governments,
> peacefully to dwell within the limits of their
> respective States, to move at will from place to
> place therein, and to have free ingress thereto
> and egress therefrom, with a consequent authority
> in the States to forbid and punish violations of
> this fundamental right."
>
> http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldoc=192053
> 5254US281_1494.xml&docbase=CSLWAR1-1950-1985
>
> Limiting freedom of travel doesn't really sound
> like something our founding fathers would endorse,
> since they didn't like unnecessary restrictions on
> citizens' behavior. Sounds to me like you are
> really saying you just want to speed, and you
> don't want to pay attention to your surroundings
> and take due care to avoid hitting bicyclists,
> pedestrians, deer, trash cans, or other vehicles.

How about you just admit that bicyclists are a public nuisance instead of trying to justify your position with your poor argumentative skills? Actually, just keep doing what you're doing because it simply goes to show the arrogance and selfishness of you and your ilk, which wins no one over to your side of the argument.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Taylor ()
Date: November 18, 2011 11:45AM

Thank GOD they managed to get the bike lanes in right before Winter. I can't imagine the nightmare of all the backed up bike traffic come December and January when the temp is below freezing and there's ice on the roads.

Everyone knows that bicyclists and bike traffic are at a fever pitch come Winter.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: john giggs ()
Date: August 13, 2012 10:34PM

USE THE F'ING BIKE PATHS OR THE SIDEWALK. I COULD UNDERSTAND RIDING IN THE STREET IF YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL. ALL OF YOU THINK YOU ARE LANCE ARMSTRONG, GIVE IT UP! PISS OFF YOURSELF!

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: Mack Trucker ()
Date: August 14, 2012 09:52AM

Those bicyclist lanes in Reston in the 35 mph zones are causing more safety issues than I've ever seen. There are packs of bicyclist trying to figure out if they can stay single file or block the lanes. Mini-van Moms are moving into the suicide lanes to pass and nearly wrecking.

I've seen five head-on near misses. It's only a matter of time before two Mini-van soccer moms talking on their cell phones hit head on and then spin off taking out the bicyclist group too.

It would be interesting to know the number of incidents between bicyclist and cars since they started those bike lanes.

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Re: Who's The Bastard Repainting 4 Lanes Roads To Bicycle Paths?
Posted by: a non moron ()
Date: August 14, 2012 11:18AM

Kilton Wrote:
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> I love how cyclists say that drivers shouldn't be
> in so much of a hurry, when a high percentage of
> these cyclists can't be bothered to stop at stop
> signs. So you're allowed to be in a hurry, but no
> one else is. Got it. :-)


I honestly don't think I've ever seen a cyclist stop at a stop sign.

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