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Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: LS ()
Date: January 13, 2008 02:16PM

Which FFX Cty school pyramids are desirable? I know which HS's tend to be good, but not sure which elementary or middle school combo. I know anything feeding into Langley is fine- but what about some of the other good HS? Such as Oakton, Madison, Fairfax ones.. We are looking to move and want to consider the entire picture- if htere are any zip codes to look for- please do include them.. thank you!

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: SapphicHokieMom ()
Date: January 13, 2008 02:48PM

I am partial to both Laurel Ridge and Oak View into Robinson, but you need to be careful with Oak View since it is a triple-split feeder into Robinson, Fairfax and Woodson. If you want to get into a redistricting discussion, this is one ES which really calls out for one since Oak View's boundary is an absolute mess which goes back 15-20 years. Seriously, what sense does it make for people way down 123 in the Clara Barton section of Fairfax Station to attend Oak View and then feed into Woodson? My understanding is that Woodson was the best HS when that neighborhood was built and they fought/argued to be sent their instead of Robinson.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: January 13, 2008 05:15PM

In Vienna, Louise Archer, Thoreau, and Madison. Move to the town of Vienna and you won't have to worry about redistricting out of Madison.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Anonymous ()
Date: January 13, 2008 07:32PM

It seems Langley, Madison, & Woodson are the best around; you may include Oakton also. Langley homes are pricey, because of the area and school district. Lake Braddock and Robinson are okay, the homes are less expensive. If you can buy in the Langley district do it. I think these are the best schools around, all others are not good.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Mantua Mom ()
Date: January 13, 2008 07:59PM

Mantua to Frost to Woodson.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Cavaliers ()
Date: January 13, 2008 08:05PM

Mantua Mom Wrote:
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> Mantua to Frost to Woodson.


Yes, the Woodson HS pyramid is really good. I graduated from Woodson in the 80's. Not sure how the house prices are like in the Woodson district now.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Gerry Mandering ()
Date: January 13, 2008 08:43PM

If you don't want to spend millions for a home in the Langley District, there are some homes along the Rt 7 corridor (West of the toll road) that are within the $700k's. What the Langley District offers is that you don't have to worry about your kids hanging out with the riff raff as a concern of the S-L redistricting post.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Anonymous ()
Date: January 13, 2008 09:10PM

Cavaliers-
WTW Class of '83?

How about you?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: West FC ()
Date: January 13, 2008 09:32PM

Haycock to Longfellow to McLean

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Cavaliers ()
Date: January 13, 2008 09:42PM

Anonymous Wrote:
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> Cavaliers-
> WTW Class of '83?
>
> How about you?


WTW Class of '84

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: new hawk ()
Date: January 13, 2008 10:11PM

Assuming your in a pyramid that just got redistricted to SL and want to move as a result, the crossfield/carson/oakton is still highly regarded and not to far from floris or fox mill.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: LS ()
Date: January 13, 2008 10:48PM

How about a good elem-middle-HS combo that includes GT's or magnet schools? are those possible to get?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Mantua Mom ()
Date: January 13, 2008 11:01PM

LS Wrote:
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> How about a good elem-middle-HS combo that
> includes GT's or magnet schools? are those
> possible to get?



Mantua to Frost to Woodson.

GT and TC.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: West FC ()
Date: January 13, 2008 11:09PM

Haycock and Longfellow both have GT centers (if you qualify), and historically, no middle school has sent more students to TJ than Longfellow.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: CWES parent ()
Date: January 14, 2008 12:23AM

LS Wrote:
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> How about a good elem-middle-HS combo that
> includes GT's or magnet schools? are those
> possible to get?

Canterbury Woods to Frost to Woodson.

If you later decide you want IB, pupil-place to nearby Annandale or Robinson.

Centrally located, just outside the beltway between 236 and Braddock; about halfway between TJ and George Mason.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: M's MoM ()
Date: January 14, 2008 08:36AM

Willow Springs but I think they feed to Fairfax-Yuck

Union Mill > Liberty > Centreville

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Best teacher in the World ()
Date: January 14, 2008 08:46AM

Mosby woods, Luther jackson, Oakton ;)

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Kid ()
Date: January 14, 2008 10:48AM

waples mill to franklin middle school to oakton

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: TRP ()
Date: January 14, 2008 11:46AM

New parent here- what does it mean if you don't attend either a GT center or feeder elementary school? does that mean your child can never get into the GT program?

Also- what is the best carson feeder combo (elemn- and HS)? what area to live in to get that combo?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Rodney ()
Date: January 14, 2008 07:36PM

West FC Wrote:
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> Haycock and Longfellow both have GT centers (if
> you qualify), and historically, no middle school
> has sent more students to TJ than Longfellow.

Maybe you can come over later and help me straighten out my Longfellow.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: January 15, 2008 12:42AM

LS Wrote:
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> How about a good elem-middle-HS combo that
> includes GT's or magnet schools? are those
> possible to get?

Louise Archer is an elementary GT center in the Madison pyramid.

I also agree that Mantua, Frost,and Woodson are good.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: January 15, 2008 12:45AM

Any child can be admitted to the local GT center in third grade, through testing, teacher recommendations, etc. More information here:
http://www.fcps.edu/DIS/gt/index.htm

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: taxpayer ()
Date: January 15, 2008 08:56AM

West FC Wrote:
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> Haycock to Longfellow to McLean

1.Add to those Franklin Sherman, Chesterbrook, Kent gardens[only if in French Immersion]. Mclean is renovated and Longfellow is near construction.

2.Arlington - any Yorktown Feeds.

3.City of Falls Church.

4.Louise Archer to Thoreau and Madison - problem is that Thoreau is likely to be overcrowded and unrenovated since Kilmer is filled with people from reston/Herndon/western great Falls as a function of the Langley pyramid stacking.
Madison is renovated.

Mclean is a real community as are the others.

All of these are fine and seem to have a sense of stability academically and community. Mantua-Frost-Woodson is OK but Woodson area is too surrounded by FX county thereby giving more opportunities for gerrymandering. The others have easy access to Dc, Tysons, Ballston, Reston /Herndon tech reverse commute. The school locations also remove opportunities for FCPS to mess up even though they still ship Shouse Village [by Wolftrap ] to mclean instead of Madison or Marshall.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Berdhuis ()
Date: January 15, 2008 03:12PM

Flint Hill (my alma mater '79) > Thoreau > Madison
McNair > Rachel Carson > Westfield

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: itsallgud ()
Date: January 15, 2008 03:52PM

They're all good - top 3% in the nation. Probably depends more on what "type" of folks you want to associate with, from a socio-economic and ethnic standpoint.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: R U Serious? ()
Date: January 15, 2008 03:57PM

LS Wrote:
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> Which FFX Cty school pyramids are desirable?

None, for the cost per pupil, the system is atrocious. Cut your household budget in other areas and do yourself a favor by sending your kids to private school. Public school systems nation wide are steadily going down the toilet, so ranking high amongst an overall underperforming system is not much to write home about.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Lisa ()
Date: January 16, 2008 08:24AM

A few questions:
1) I had read that Mclean HS though good is more dangerous (gangs)- is that true?
2) can you please clarify the Woodson commment? do you mean it'll be open to redistricting?
3) Shouse village- I take it that the school feed to Mclean might end?
4) Question about ES's that are not GT centers but offer level IV services- some of the schools don't offer that and are supposed to be good (ie Waples Mill/Navy)- is it reasonable to think that a lot more ES's will be offering these services?
5) Is Navy a good or very good ES? How about Waples Mill?

newbie parent

taxpayer Wrote:
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> West FC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Haycock to Longfellow to McLean
>
> 1.Add to those Franklin Sherman, Chesterbrook,
> Kent gardens. Mclean is renovated and Longfellow
> is near construction.
>
> 2.Arlington - any Yorktown Feeds.
>
> 3.City of Falls Church.
>
> 4.Louise Archer to Thoreau and Madison - problem
> is that Thoreau is likely to be overcrowded and
> unrenovated since Kilmer is filled with people
> from reston/Herndon/western great Falls as a
> function of the Langley pyramid stacking.
> Madison is renovated.
>
> Mclean is a real community as are the others.
>
> All of these are fine and seem to have a sense of
> stability academically and community.
> Mantua-Frost-Woodson is OK but Woodson area is too
> surrounded by FX county thereby giving more
> opportunities for gerrymandering. The others have
> easy access to Dc, Tysons, Ballston, Reston
> /Herndon tech reverse commute. The school
> locations also remove opportunities for FCPS to
> mess up even though they still ship Shouse Village
> to mclean instead of Madison or Marshall.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: They're all good... ()
Date: January 16, 2008 05:20PM

but we are partial to Union Mill, Liberty, Centreville. If you buy in Little Rocky Run, there is probably VERY little chance you will EVER be in a boundary study as all three schools are within walking distance. Nice community, good teachers, pretty good kids.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: January 16, 2008 07:07PM

Mclean has the same amount of fights as South Lakes. All peopel should now have a big fight over Mclean as well as South Lakes and not go to either school.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Pieceofadvice ()
Date: January 16, 2008 08:11PM

They're all good... Wrote:
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> but we are partial to Union Mill, Liberty,
> Centreville. If you buy in Little Rocky Run,
> there is probably VERY little chance you will EVER
> be in a boundary study as all three schools are
> within walking distance. Nice community, good
> teachers, pretty good kids.


Good place there--I am in a midst of a boundary war and it sucks big time. Next time I am moving to a place that would be one block away from the high school of my choice. Seriously, Don't get a place that is between two high schools because chances are you will be sucked up in a boundary war.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: January 16, 2008 09:09PM

Gerry Mandering Wrote:
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> If you don't want to spend millions for a home in
> the Langley District, there are some homes along
> the Rt 7 corridor (West of the toll road) that are
> within the $700k's. What the Langley District
> offers is that you don't have to worry about your
> kids hanging out with the riff raff as a concern
> of the S-L redistricting post.


I'd be careful of buying Langley houses on the far west end of the Langley school district. Geographically, that is one f**k of a drive to the school - upwards of 30 to 40 minutes. And, given the FCPS board's tendency to want to play ethnicity monopoly and make every school a veritable utopia, don't be surprised to see some of those areas - at some point in the future - get chopped off and moved to Herndon or South Lakes.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: pieceofadvice ()
Date: January 16, 2008 09:25PM

ITRADE Wrote:
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> Gerry Mandering Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you don't want to spend millions for a home
> in
> > the Langley District, there are some homes
> along
> > the Rt 7 corridor (West of the toll road) that
> are
> > within the $700k's. What the Langley District
> > offers is that you don't have to worry about
> your
> > kids hanging out with the riff raff as a
> concern
> > of the S-L redistricting post.
>
>
> I'd be careful of buying Langley houses on the far
> west end of the Langley school district.
> Geographically, that is one f**k of a drive to the
> school - upwards of 30 to 40 minutes. And, given
> the FCPS board's tendency to want to play
> ethnicity monopoly and make every school a
> veritable utopia, don't be surprised to see some
> of those areas - at some point in the future - get
> chopped off and moved to Herndon or South Lakes.


I second ITRADE..stay away from the Langley district by all means.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: MR ()
Date: January 17, 2008 05:32PM

What about mclean HS? Any truth to gangs there? (though not like SLH)

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Lala ()
Date: January 17, 2008 09:52PM

Mclean is mclean- really..

not sure about Navy ES- can someone pitch in?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: oscar ()
Date: January 17, 2008 10:34PM

navy is ok they have very self-serving parents, staff and principal, more concerned with reputation than the actual students that attend

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: r432 ()
Date: January 20, 2008 09:29AM

BE careful with redistricting- can impact where your kids end up- not sure how often this happens or will happen after the SL one?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: January 20, 2008 09:33AM

Move to Greenbriar or Poplar Tree, both GBE,GBW and Poplar Tree are fine for elementary school, then Rocky Run is a great Middle School and you'll get the privledge of going to Chantilly high School.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: M's Mom ()
Date: January 20, 2008 10:01AM

GBE, are you kidding me! Hell no! That place speaks more languages than the UN!

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: steve ()
Date: January 20, 2008 12:04PM

Well considering my child went there, I can assure you GBE is a good school. It is a little diverse cause about half the school goes to Fairfax High School and Lanier Middle School in one of the more wierd boundaries, but the teachers have always been great and the kids have always been great too.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: IRMq ()
Date: January 20, 2008 10:53PM

hey- Navy is a great school.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: yearight ()
Date: January 21, 2008 10:49AM

navy sucks

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: PRP ()
Date: January 22, 2008 07:25PM

So let's hear about what schools are good - within walking distance (little danger of redistricting) and overall worth it to move to that neighborhood

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Carole ()
Date: January 22, 2008 10:45PM

I would say the elementry schools Canterbury Woods, Wakefield Forest, Little Rocky Run or Mantua are all good and they feed into Frost Middle School which is outstanding and then to Woodson HS which consistently ranks high on all levels. Woodson looks terrible right now and is going through a renovation which will update the school tremendously (much needed). The renovation is scheduled to be complete in 2011 but parts of the school are already completed an are being used.

For neighorhoods, I would recommend Pine Ridge, Cantebury Woods, Rutherford, Turro and my favorite MANTUA. All have strong communities and many have neighborhood swimming clubs. In addition to kids sports program through FPYC, Annandale Youth, and BRYC.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Cairn ()
Date: January 22, 2008 11:51PM

Take a look at Olde Creek ES, in particular the Somerset and Olde Creek neighborhoods, where you can walk to Olde Creek, Frost, and Woodson. As mentioned above, Woodson is under construction but will be spectacular when finished in 2-3 years. Olde Creek is one of the smallest schools in the county. You would have to tour it to really understand how friendly and happy this little community can be, where most of the faculty know your name, and they know all the kids. A principal who is like a big teddy bear, dropping by classrooms to say hi to the kids (unfortunately retires soon), where parents are welcome to participate, and those children needing one-on-one help actually get it.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Star ()
Date: January 23, 2008 10:33AM

Carole Wrote:
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> For neighorhoods, I would recommend Pine Ridge,
> Cantebury Woods, Rutherford, Turro and my favorite
> MANTUA. All have strong communities and many have
> neighborhood swimming clubs. In addition to kids
> sports program through FPYC, Annandale Youth, and
> BRYC.

Sure, live in Mantua if you want your kids to live above an underground oil leak. Great education, poor health throughout a lifetime - sounds like a good compromise.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Olde Creek ()
Date: January 23, 2008 09:40PM

The principal of Olde Creek has already told parents that he is retiring this spring. There is a search for a new principal underway. They have blended the funding for the Olde Creek Center with the regular Olde Creek funding and there are concerns about losing funding for staff, particularly with the budget deficit in 2009 (and further). It's not all peaches and cream at Olde Creek right now.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: No More ()
Date: January 24, 2008 01:16PM

Mantua is fine...I would not want to live on Tivoto Drive or the end of Corondado, but the rest is okay. I always wonder if the people that live in Pickett Reserve (New houses 1.7 Million plus) know about the oil problem in 1990.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Star ()
Date: January 24, 2008 01:24PM

No More Wrote:
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> Mantua is fine...I would not want to live on
> Tivoto Drive or the end of Corondado, but the rest
> is okay. I always wonder if the people that live
> in Pickett Reserve (New houses 1.7 Million plus)
> know about the oil problem in 1990.

If you are willing to take the risk, I guess it is fine. I know I wouldn't. I think I'd rather live next to the Raytheon Building on 50.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: No More ()
Date: January 24, 2008 01:30PM

And what goes on over there?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: imho ()
Date: January 24, 2008 06:13PM

Carole Wrote:
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> I would say the elementry schools Canterbury
> Woods, Wakefield Forest, Little Rocky Run or
> Mantua are all good and they feed into Frost
> Middle School which is outstanding and then to
> Woodson HS which consistently ranks high on all
> levels. Woodson looks terrible right now and is
> going through a renovation which will update the
> school tremendously (much needed). The renovation
> is scheduled to be complete in 2011 but parts of
> the school are already completed an are being
> used.
>
> For neighorhoods, I would recommend Pine Ridge,
> Cantebury Woods, Rutherford, Turro and my favorite
> MANTUA. All have strong communities and many have
> neighborhood swimming clubs. In addition to kids
> sports program through FPYC, Annandale Youth, and
> BRYC.


I think you meant to say Little Run Elementary - not Little Rocky Run, which is in Clifton. The only school within Little Rocky Run neighborhood is Union Mill. Little Rocky Run is a good place to buy because it is within walking distance of ALL THREE SCHOOLS - elementary, middle and high (so any boundary changes would be completely ridiculous). Great youth sports with SYA. Wonderful neighborhood community. Union Mill, Liberty, Centreville is the pyramid.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: samgee ()
Date: January 24, 2008 09:56PM

Best teacher in the World Wrote:
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> Mosby woods, Luther jackson, Oakton ;)


Yea, right! Dont believe this one. Only Oakton is desirable.
Whoever posted this one is pulling your leg.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: taxpayer ()
Date: January 26, 2008 08:55AM

Add Silverbrook West plus Halley and Newington Forest - it's South County Secondary School and the soon to be built new middle school. Silverbrook will be reduced down to core capcity when Laurel Hill opens and Albo, hyland, Tom davis, Connelly give those people anything they want. Yeah none of the above are on the school board but in that case they make the decisions and those people might as well be in Arlington or the City of Falls Church. Weird when they could send some from any of the above to Lake Braddock but there might be some relatively minor projects that votes were sold on.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: ? ()
Date: January 26, 2008 09:29AM

I don't understand why people would object to being redistricted from SCSS to LBSS. LB has higher SATs, a better Challenge Index score, lower FRL, ESOL and minority percentages. Both schools offer the AP curriculum and both schools are secondary schools.

What is wrong with Lake Braddock that I'm not seeing?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: justpinky ()
Date: January 26, 2008 03:23PM

Lees Corner ES - Franklin MS - Chantilly HS

Nice neighborhoods and VERY unlikely to be redistricted. All school offer higher learning courses. There are also tons of AP courses at Chantilly

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Daventry ()
Date: January 26, 2008 04:08PM

Daventry
West Springfield ES-Irving-Lee.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: TRY ()
Date: January 27, 2008 12:45PM

How about a top rated ES to a v. good HS- and can walk close to ES- any neighborhoods to look into?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Community Member ()
Date: January 27, 2008 04:58PM

Little Rocky Run. Can't beat it.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: TRY ()
Date: January 27, 2008 06:15PM

Community Member Wrote:
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> Little Rocky Run. Can't beat it.


It's rated very poorly..

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Community Member ()
Date: January 27, 2008 10:10PM

What's rated poorly? The community has been voted one of Virginia's top 50. Schools are excellent - check out the profiles on fcps.edu.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: January 27, 2008 10:57PM

TRY Wrote:
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> How about a top rated ES to a v. good HS- and can
> walk close to ES- any neighborhoods to look into?

Vienna, Louise Archer district which backs to the high school, Madison. Kids can walk to Louise Archer AND Madison but they would need to be bused to the Middle school, Thoreau. Look in the northwest part of the town of Vienna. Archer also has a great history and a GT center.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: January 27, 2008 10:58PM

Daventry Wrote:
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> Daventry
> West Springfield ES-Irving-Lee.

Irving and Lee? You've got to be kidding.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Daventry ()
Date: January 27, 2008 11:35PM

No, I'm not kidding. Both of my kids went to MIT from Lee.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: TRY ()
Date: January 29, 2008 02:16PM

Feeding into Oakton- between two Oakton elementary schools: Oakton ES and Waples Mill ES- which one is better?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: yea ()
Date: February 01, 2008 07:09PM

Just avoid fox mill and floris since they are going to be going to SLHS

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: mdm ()
Date: February 04, 2008 01:57PM

Avoid most of Reston since it either goes to Southlakes or will (even those strange patches that go to Oakton/Madison/Langley)..

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: LAB ()
Date: February 04, 2008 02:19PM

Excellent Pyramid:

Sunrise Valley
Langston Hughes
South Lakes


I don't care what any of you say. We have had a wonderful experience with all three schools.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Navy ()
Date: February 04, 2008 06:00PM

Navy is fabulous ... everybody is within 5 minutes
Franklin Middle is really great ... typically a 10 minute bus ride
High School is split between Chantilly (5-15 minute bus) and Oakton (10-20 minute bus)

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: alan ()
Date: February 04, 2008 08:48PM

Just a word of caution. Navy's boundaries are all over the place from Franklin Farm to across from the Greenbriar Shopping Center to way up Bennett Road. Be careful if you plan to move to the Navy area, especially with an elementary school boundary study coming up next year for Coppermine. They might decide to finally get rid of the Franklin Farm Island and clean up some other boundary issues there.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: here ()
Date: February 18, 2008 09:27PM

Re. boundary clean up- I am trying to find neighborhoods and schools that are top notch (but not MM$ since we're just not there!) to consider moving to.. I know the boundaries are tricky- but once htere is a major redistrictring this like- is it relatively safer to move there without a major change? My kids will be in K in a year..

Am so hoping to find a neighborhood in the 900k, nice backyards (not wooded- but maybe closer to park)- good maybe GT or gifted class ES, etc.. will be working in Reston and Tysons (two income family)

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Neen ()
Date: February 18, 2008 10:24PM

here Wrote:
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> Re. boundary clean up- I am trying to find
> neighborhoods and schools that are top notch (but
> not MM$ since we're just not there!) to consider
> moving to.. I know the boundaries are tricky- but
> once htere is a major redistrictring this like- is
> it relatively safer to move there without a major
> change? My kids will be in K in a year..
>
> Am so hoping to find a neighborhood in the 900k,
> nice backyards (not wooded- but maybe closer to
> park)- good maybe GT or gifted class ES, etc..
> will be working in Reston and Tysons (two income
> family)

Vienna. Good schools, good town, nice parks, bike path, good stores, good commute to both Tysons and Reston. If you move to the town of Vienna, you get Madison High school. Other parts of Vienna go to Madison too, but if you move to the town it is VERY unlikely that you might be redistricted out of Madison. Look for homes in the Louise Archer elementary school district. Louise Archer backs to Madison high school, it has a GT center, and is a very good school.

There is a nice house, in a very nice neighborhood, on Kedge Road in Vienna, backs to the park and bike bath. It feeds to Louise Archer and Madison. It's for sale now and might meet your needs. You can probably find it on trulia.com or one of the other real estate websites.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: formerhick76 ()
Date: February 19, 2008 02:34PM

Let's consider this. There's several layers of schools --

Top level: Learning oozes out of every ceiling tile and HVAC duct.
Good level: Your kid won't go too wrong if you provide the back up at home.
Acceptable level: Your kid is going to have to work. This will work if you aren't willing to spend 2/3 of your take home on your mortgage but are willing to check up with teachers, etc.
Not good level: Your kid will have to look for trouble. Teaching is done but your kid will have to work a bit harder to get a good education.
Horrible level: Your kid is really at risk just by going here.

None of the HS's in FFX is really 'horrible level.' Some of the elementary schools may be.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: lll ()
Date: February 19, 2008 03:31PM

Neen Wrote:
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Neen, what are your thoughts on the far east side of Vienna border- is that part possibly going to be part of Marshall instead of Madison?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Q for NEEN ()
Date: February 21, 2008 05:17PM

bumping up to see if Neen had read this last question..?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: SomeofYouAreSillyStrivers ()
Date: April 09, 2008 08:16PM

Those of you hyperventilating about Vienna neighborhoods being redistricted from Madison to Marshall need to chill out. Madison has a reputation in the area for drug problems and also treating the HS kids who aren't academic or athletic stars like dirt. Marshall has some problems as well, but also a lot of decent teachers and an administration that knows the kids by name. And, BTW, many of the newer Wolftrap/Tysons neighborhoods that feed into Kilmer and Marshall compare quite favorably to Shouse Village (worn-out 70s Brady Bunch housing stock) and the neighborhoods that feed into Thoreau and Madison (worn-out 1950s ramblers).

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Goodschools ()
Date: April 09, 2008 08:47PM

Floris - Rachel Carson - Westfield.
Of course, make sure that you reside on the right side of the street...so you won't be redistricted.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: MR ()
Date: April 17, 2008 02:08PM

SomeofYouAreSillyStrivers Wrote:
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> Those of you hyperventilating about Vienna
> neighborhoods being redistricted from Madison to
> Marshall need to chill out. Madison has a
> reputation in the area for drug problems and also
> treating the HS kids who aren't academic or
> athletic stars like dirt. Marshall has some
> problems as well, but also a lot of decent
> teachers and an administration that knows the kids
> by name. And, BTW, many of the newer
> Wolftrap/Tysons neighborhoods that feed into
> Kilmer and Marshall compare quite favorably to
> Shouse Village (worn-out 70s Brady Bunch housing
> stock) and the neighborhoods that feed into
> Thoreau and Madison (worn-out 1950s ramblers).


Isn't what you said about madison true for langley, and oakton? (which are top rated)- isn't there a top rated one that doesn't bring on so much pressure but offers AP and is truly considered top in dc area..

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: SomeofYouAreSillyStrivers ()
Date: April 17, 2008 02:46PM

MR Wrote:
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>
> Isn't what you said about madison true for
> langley, and oakton? (which are top rated)- isn't
> there a top rated one that doesn't bring on so
> much pressure but offers AP and is truly
> considered top in dc area..

If that's your focus, I would look at either McLean or WT Woodson. They are both long-time, established schools with excellent reputations, very good test scores and AP programs.

Oakton and Madison have many, many strong supporters, but from my discussions with other parents, they also graduate far more students than one would expect who hated their high school experience and felt the administration gave the "average" students who were neither star athletes (both Oakton and Madison have traditionally been athletic powerhouses) or top academic students much attention.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Madison Is Not an Island ()
Date: April 17, 2008 03:28PM

SomeofYouAreSillyStrivers Wrote:
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>
> If that's your focus, I would look at either
> McLean or WT Woodson. They are both long-time,
> established schools with excellent reputations,
> very good test scores and AP programs.
>
Fair enough, but someone really interested in McLean HS should stick to central McLean and avoid the neighborhoods such as Shouse Village that have Vienna addresses. Madison Island is to SL as Shouse Village and some of the other developments on the south side of Route 7 currently in McLean district potentially are to Marshall.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: The Coup ()
Date: April 17, 2008 03:53PM

Cooper into Langley 22102 (Mclean Tysons area)

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: formerhick76 ()
Date: April 17, 2008 06:07PM

On the flip side, I'd rather be RD'd into Marshall than RD'd into South Lakes.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Chantilly Mom ()
Date: April 17, 2008 06:40PM

Avoid schools in the Oakton area. The rest are pretty good.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Marshall Booster ()
Date: April 17, 2008 06:50PM

formerhick76 Wrote:
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> On the flip side, I'd rather be RD'd into Marshall
> than RD'd into South Lakes.

The demographic profile of Marshall these days is probably most analogous to Chantilly, Fairfax and Lake Braddock - all solid schools but not in the "desirable" category in the fussy, Washingtonian or Long & Foster sense.

The best thing about Marshall these days is that it's actually embraced its small size. The principal is engaged and well-liked, there are some very good faculty members, and students don't worry about getting cut from the JV football team. And, while there are some quite affluent areas that feed into Marshall, given the overall demographics of the school, it just doesn't have the "frat boy in training" atmosphere that people associate with schools like Oakton. The top achievers are exactly the mix that you would hope for in such a school - some drawn from the Wolftrap/Westbriar areas of Vienna, others from apartment complexes in West Falls Church. It's certainly multi-cultural, but I've never heard anyone self-consciously using terms such as "mini-UN" or complaining about "social engineering."

The biggest negatives are that some of the older teachers, in particular, are unimaginative clock-punchers, there is no single physical community that embraces Marshall in the way that the town of Vienna, for example, supports Madison, there is an IB program rather than AP (which turns some off, for different reasons), and there is a lingering question as to whether, at some point, the School Board will just decide to sell the school and send the kids from north of Route 123 to Madison and McLean and from South of Route 123 to Falls Church.

At this point, I can't see Marshall parents actively lobbying the School Board to rezone current Madison and/or McLean students into their district - if it happened, we'd probably have a better baseball team; if not, that's just fine with us, too.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Client 9 from Outer Space ()
Date: April 17, 2008 07:35PM

Madison Is Not an Island Wrote:
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> SomeofYouAreSillyStrivers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > If that's your focus, I would look at either
> > McLean or WT Woodson. They are both long-time,
> > established schools with excellent reputations,
> > very good test scores and AP programs.
> >
> Fair enough, but someone really interested in
> McLean HS should stick to central McLean and avoid
> the neighborhoods such as Shouse Village that have
> Vienna addresses. Madison Island is to SL as
> Shouse Village and some of the other developments
> on the south side of Route 7 currently in McLean
> district potentially are to Marshall.

Before the 90's, that whole area was Marshall High territory before the school board caved in to overzealous homeowners.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: No Madison Is An Island ()
Date: April 17, 2008 08:21PM

Client 9 from Outer Space Wrote:
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> Before the 90's, that whole area was Marshall High
> territory before the school board caved in to
> overzealous homeowners.

That was almost 20 years ago - maybe Stuart Gibson will decide now Shouse Village and those other neighborhoods need to be "repatriated" to Marshall in order to demonstrate that he wasn't playing favorites for South Lakes!

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: MR ()
Date: April 17, 2008 10:29PM

so anything south of 7 seems to be suspect to potentially be redistricted?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Marshall Booster ()
Date: April 17, 2008 11:09PM

MR Wrote:
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> so anything south of 7 seems to be suspect to
> potentially be redistricted?

If you've read the other, longer thread, you'd see that many parents are convinced that Langley (north of Route 7) has received singularly favored status and that the School Board thinks any other districts are fair game.

But, if your question relates to the specific areas south of Route 7 that are currently in the McLean district being RD'd to Marshall, I just don't see it, nor do I (from my own narrow booster perspective) particularly care. There's no evidence that Stuart Gibson takes any particular interest in expanding enrollment in Marshall, McLean is not overcrowded, there's the current elementary and junior high pyramid issues to consider, and the number of students at issue is probably not large enough for the School Board to want to take on the inevitable battle. There's no love lost between the current Marshall attendance area and the adjacent neighborhoods that bailed to McLean when GCM was not in such good shape, but the latter are probably safe from an RD for the foreseeable future.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Leave Shouse Village Alone ()
Date: April 18, 2008 11:48AM

No Madison Is An Island Wrote:
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>
> That was almost 20 years ago - maybe Stuart Gibson
> will decide now Shouse Village and those other
> neighborhoods need to be "repatriated" to Marshall
> in order to demonstrate that he wasn't playing
> favorites for South Lakes!

The SB should leave Shouse Village alone. An senseless act of arbitrary favoritism by the FCSB in the 80s is standard operating procedure for the SB and small compensation for the abuse these folks put up with - they can't leave their neighborhood without hitting McLean Bible traffic all the time, not to mention the WolfTrap patrons who think their front yards are an extension of their picnic grounds!

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: MR ()
Date: April 18, 2008 01:02PM

Marshall Booster Wrote:
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> MR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so anything south of 7 seems to be suspect to
> > potentially be redistricted?
>
> If you've read the other, longer thread, you'd see
> that many parents are convinced that Langley
> (north of Route 7) has received singularly favored
> status and that the School Board thinks any other
> districts are fair game.
>
> But, if your question relates to the specific
> areas south of Route 7 that are currently in the
> McLean district being RD'd to Marshall, I just
> don't see it, nor do I (from my own narrow booster
> perspective) particularly care. There's no
> evidence that Stuart Gibson takes any particular
> interest in expanding enrollment in Marshall,
> McLean is not overcrowded, there's the current
> elementary and junior high pyramid issues to
> consider, and the number of students at issue is
> probably not large enough for the School Board to
> want to take on the inevitable battle. There's no
> love lost between the current Marshall attendance
> area and the adjacent neighborhoods that bailed to
> McLean when GCM was not in such good shape, but
> the latter are probably safe from an RD for the
> foreseeable future.


Arent there some houses that feed into Langley south of Route 7- what about those for being RD? And how about houses right on the border close to southlakes but south of route 7 (unsure if it feeds madison or oakton)..

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Marshall Booster ()
Date: April 18, 2008 02:11PM

MR Wrote:
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>
> Arent there some houses that feed into Langley
> south of Route 7- what about those for being RD?
> And how about houses right on the border close to
> southlakes but south of route 7 (unsure if it
> feeds madison or oakton)..

You're right - there actually are a limited number south of Route 7 that feed into Langley. If you look at the boundary maps, it looks as gerrymandered as many a Congressional district. I believe those neighborhoods are adjacent to neighborhoods that are now zoned to attend South Lakes, Marshall and McLean. Given all the tumult that unfolded over the Western study, I don't see them being a focus of RD attention, but who knows. SL is done (or not done, if the plaintiffs succeed in their lawsuit), no one is pushing for RD into Marshall as long as the curent attendance levels and test scores remains stable or improve, and there's no logic at all for sending the current Langley neighborhoods south of Route 7 to McLean, particularly after the Langley expansion.

Not entirely sure what would happen, though, if the CAPS lawsuit succeeded. If the basis for the complaint is that the RD process was "arbitrary and capricious" (i.e., legalese for unfair and screwed-up), that wouldn't mean that the SB couldn't redistrict, but only that they have to go back to square one and do it all over again (someone who really cares far more about this will probably correct me - fine). That might slow things down for sure, and prevent the plan adopted in February from taking effect, but it wouldn't mean the SB couldn't come up with a new plan that puts some of the Langley neighborhoods into play. But, from the perspective of a Marshall parent, I will again say it's not something I hear parents advocating.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: MR ()
Date: April 18, 2008 11:00PM

Thanks Marshall parent- just wondering what you think may drive a RD- we are in a great school district (at least real estate wise- madison) but need a larger home due to our expanding family- we both work in FFX cty and don't want hellish commutes..

I take it your kids go to Marshall- I am interested in your comment of how the school has not supporters like Madison with town of vienna has- and how it may get sold (is that possible?) -

where do you live (obviously somewhere that feeds to marshall)

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Marshall Booster ()
Date: April 19, 2008 12:10AM

MR Wrote:
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> Thanks Marshall parent- just wondering what you
> think may drive a RD- we are in a great school
> district (at least real estate wise- madison) but
> need a larger home due to our expanding family- we
> both work in FFX cty and don't want hellish
> commutes..
>
> I take it your kids go to Marshall- I am
> interested in your comment of how the school has
> not supporters like Madison with town of vienna
> has- and how it may get sold (is that possible?) -
>
>
> where do you live (obviously somewhere that feeds
> to marshall)

As far as I can tell, there are two main factors that drive a redistricting. The first is the construction of a new school to alleviate overcrowding that, by design, results in a reallocation of students to the new school. The second is a particular school board member taking up a personal cause, either on his or her own initiative or at the behest of parents with more influence than the average shlub, to shift the boundaries to achieve some goal that may or may not be appropriate, but probably can be defended under FCPS guidelines. Parents and students generally are happy with the first type of redistricting, over time if not immediately; the second type of redistricting is far more divisive. We don't have to look very far for examples of that.

With respect to Marshall, my comment about community support was not intended to suggest that parents don't support the school; to the contrary, there is an active PTA and many parents are outspoken in their enthusiasm for the school, the IB program, etc. I only meant that Madison is treated by the town of Vienna, which has a discernible core, as the local school, so there is a very nice element of civic support for the school from local merchants and small businesses. Marshall - which sits near 495 and Tysons Corners Mall - just doesn't get that.

From time to time, there is speculation that the county will sell Marshall since it has a small, albeit increasing, enrollment (only Falls Church is smaller) and is near Tysons. Right now, the SB has Marshall slotted for major renovations over the next five years, after Woodson and Edison, but the funds have not yet been raised through a bond issuance for that purpose. Until that actually happens, those rumors will continue to persist. If Marshall were closed, I assume the students would get sent mostly to Madison and Falls Church, and there could be spillover effects that would result in some Madison students being sent to South Lakes and Oakton.

The other big uncertainty is whether the SB will decide to RD to increase Falls Church's enrollment, like it did earlier this year with South Lakes. It seems like the easiest fix to accomplish that goal, however, would be to move the boundary between Falls Church and Annandale, which has the largest student body by far of any of the county schools in the eastern part of the county, rather than change Marshall's boundaries or those of its neighboring schools.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: newbie ()
Date: April 21, 2008 11:04PM

If you had a choice of equivalent houses in Langley vs McLean district- which would you picK?

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: No more Vienna students ()
Date: April 22, 2008 03:36AM

will be sent to Marshall. Stu Gibson doesn't want to go through another boundary change in his district. Madison parents would go NUTS. Not to worry, it's not going to happen.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: sally ()
Date: April 22, 2008 03:37AM

>>>If you had a choice of equivalent houses in Langley vs McLean district- which would you picK?<<<

Langley! Without question.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Hunter Mill gal ()
Date: April 22, 2008 03:43AM

Marshall Booster Wrote:
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> MR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so anything south of 7 seems to be suspect to
> > potentially be redistricted?
>
> If you've read the other, longer thread, you'd see
> that many parents are convinced that Langley
> (north of Route 7) has received singularly favored
> status and that the School Board thinks any other
> districts are fair game.
>
> But, if your question relates to the specific
> areas south of Route 7 that are currently in the
> McLean district being RD'd to Marshall, I just
> don't see it, nor do I (from my own narrow booster
> perspective) particularly care. There's no
> evidence that Stuart Gibson takes any particular
> interest in expanding enrollment in Marshall,
> McLean is not overcrowded, there's the current
> elementary and junior high pyramid issues to
> consider, and the number of students at issue is
> probably not large enough for the School Board to
> want to take on the inevitable battle. There's no
> love lost between the current Marshall attendance
> area and the adjacent neighborhoods that bailed to
> McLean when GCM was not in such good shape, but
> the latter are probably safe from an RD for the
> foreseeable future.

You are right, Stu Gibson has no interest in redistricting Marshall. It is not in his district.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: No Madison Is an Island ()
Date: April 22, 2008 07:44AM

sally Wrote:
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> >>>If you had a choice of equivalent houses in
> Langley vs McLean district- which would you
> picK?<<<
>
> Langley! Without question.

Unless of course the CAPS suit succeeds (not saying that's likely), the school board prepares a new RD plan, and part of Langley district in western part of the county is sent to Herndon. In comparison, core McLean school district is untouchable, with possible exception of islands that were RD'd from Marshall to McLean years ago.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: formerhick76 ()
Date: April 22, 2008 01:14PM

Far west Langley may be affected by RD, and the various McLean islands may be affected by RD>

OTOH, Herndon and Marshall are not bad, not in the way South Lakes and even Falls Church are 'bad' (by Fairfax standards.)

Langley is not so much better than McLean to be worth coughing up an extra $150k or so if you can't really afford it.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: OrangeFish ()
Date: April 22, 2008 09:39PM

Marshall Booster Wrote:
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> The other big uncertainty is whether the SB will
> decide to RD to increase Falls Church's
> enrollment, like it did earlier this year with
> South Lakes. It seems like the easiest fix to
> accomplish that goal, however, would be to move
> the boundary between Falls Church and Annandale,
> which has the largest student body by far of any
> of the county schools in the eastern part of the
> county, rather than change Marshall's boundaries
> or those of its neighboring schools.

I have heard several SB members state they want to shift Annandale's boundary to be at 236/Little River Turnpike, with those living north of 236 to go to JEB Stuart. The timeline I heard was 2009 or 2010.

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: Madison Is Not an Island ()
Date: April 23, 2008 11:42AM

No more Vienna students Wrote:
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> will be sent to Marshall. Stu Gibson doesn't want
> to go through another boundary change in his
> district. Madison parents would go NUTS. Not to
> worry, it's not going to happen.

You may - or may not - be right that there won't be future redistricting between Madison or Marshall. Madison Island parents didn't expect an RD to South Lakes either, did they?

If there were an RD, attendance areas most likely to be affected would be Westbriar and Wolftrap, which split between Madison and Marshall now. The kids and parents all know each other, so no big fear of the great unknown. If eliminating split feeders and bringing up attendance levels at smaller HSs are the school board's goals, then all of Westbriar (closer to Marshall) should go to Marshall, all of Wolftrap (closer to Madison) should go to Madison, or all students at both schools should be assigned to Marshall.

Also, academic distinctions between Madison and Marshall are diminishing - see below chart of average combined reading/math SAT scores for FFX HS's in 2007. Given its demographics, Marshall is probably "punching above its weight" and an RD would further reduce the current, modest disparity in test scores. Some parents might not like an RD, but no good reason to go "NUTS."

TJHSST 1456
Langley 1202
McLean 1178
Woodson 1154
Oakton 1130
Madison 1125
Lake Braddock 1124
Robinson 1109
Marshall 1105
Chantilly 1096
Westfield 1089
West Springfield 1087
South Lakes 1075
Herndon 1071
Centreville 1070
Fairfax 1067
West Potomac 1059
South County 1054
JEB Stuart 1037
Annandale 1021
Falls Church 1016
Mount Vernon 1014
Lee 1007
Edison 1001
Hayfield 999

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Re: Which schools pyramids in FFX county are "desirable"?
Posted by: IB Reassessing My Conclusions ()
Date: April 23, 2008 07:28PM

I took Madison's data and added second and third columns for % ESOL and % F/R Lunch taken from latest CIP:

School SATs % ESOL % F/R Lunch

TJHSST 1456 0.6 1.5
Langley 1202 2.1 1.0
McLean 1178 7.8 8.2
Woodson 1154 6.2 6.1
Oakton 1130 4.9 8.5
Madison 1125 3.6 5.3
Lake Braddock 1124 8.1 11.6
Robinson 1109 6.3 10.0
Marshall 1105 11.0 16.3
Chantilly 1096 6.5 11.2
Westfield 1089 6.0 11.9
West Springfield 1087 5.9 9.5
South Lakes 1075 15.1 33.2
Herndon 1071 14.9 18.7
Centreville 1070 8.3 15.0
Fairfax 1067 11.7 17.3
West Potomac 1059 11.3 32.7
South County 1054 6.0 14.3
JEB Stuart 1037 24.5 50.1
Annandale 1021 22.2 38.6
Falls Church 1016 24.8 39.1
Mount Vernon 1014 12.0 38.4
Lee 1007 21.0 34.5
Edison 1001 13.7 30.1
Hayfield 999 10.0 22.6

Seems to bear out observation that Marshall is "punching above its weight" if % of ESOL and F/R Lunch students otherwise might be viewed as socio-economic factors correlated with SAT performance. Note that other two schools that fall in this category are South Lakes and JEB Stuart - both IB schools. Conversely, two schools that might have been expected to perform better are Madison and South County.

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