SUCKS!!! $1000 on a $36k car what a rip off.

Has anyone appealed the assesed amount? Where do they get that value from.

Shit $1000 tax on one car for a year???? That sounds like it's F'ed.

There's no way that can be right. Even at full value my 32K car was not nearly that high.

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Business use?

Its all personal use for both cars

Car 1 the tax bill says the assesed value is $36,475, tax is $1065.11

Car 2 the tax bill says the assesed value $21,850 the bill is $391.75

Seems much higher then I remember. Did they increase the tax?

Both says 12 months 01/01/2011 - 12/31/2011

can they reall collect taxes for the time in the future?

You get a credit for the first $20,000 on the vehicle. Anything above that, them you pay full price. Read the Tax Law. I think it sucks that we have to pay taxes when we buy a car, and every year, but that is VA. Once the care is "worth less", according to VA, then you'll see a big drop in the tax.

Per my Fairfax County DTA nastygram, "Car Tax Relief has been capped by the Commonwealth of Virginia. For 2011 the relative value of the state subsidy on personal use vehicles in Fairfax County is 70% of the car tax levy on the first $20,000 of assessed value."

Using that, the tax rate of 4.57%, and the numbers you provided for your first car, I came up with:

$ 36,475 * 0.0457 = $ 1,666.91 (Base bill)
$ 20,000 * 0.0475 * 0.70 = $ 639.80 (Virginia car tax relief)
$ 1,666.91 - $ 639.80 + $ 38.00 (vehicle registration fee > 4,000 lbs.) = $ 1,065.11

If the $20,000 cap on car tax relief is new, that would explain why people are seeing higher bills this year.

I looked up my car in nada as full trade in value ( what fairfax tax says they use) and it came in at 34k could I appeal their assessment

If you're stupid enough to sink 36 grand into a depreciating asset, you deserve to get soaked.

The tax on my FIVE vehicles combined doesn't come close to $1000.

Pay up, SUCKER!

Taxes Wrote:
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> You get a credit for the first $20,000 on the
> vehicle. Anything above that, them you pay full
> price. Read the Tax Law. I think it sucks that
> we have to pay taxes when we buy a car, and every
> year, but that is VA. Once the care is "worth
> less", according to VA, then you'll see a big drop
> in the tax.


It all equals out in the end. Maryland has no such car tax, but you take it in the ass on Maryland income tax. Pick your poison.

"The tax on my FIVE vehicles combined doesn't come close to $1000. "

Yup the yearly hosing that va state sticks it to the tax payers..buy a car, pay it off...and STILL pay taxes on it...best thing to do is lobby your congressman...don't vote for those that keep this tax going

you can appeal your ammount by showing high milage..have done that plenty of times

for now on don't buy expencive ass cars

If you can afford a car that expencive you should be able to afford the taxes...

this is exactly why the poor get poor and the rich stay rich...poor people spend every dime they have...

capt obvious Wrote:
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> Yup the yearly hosing that va state sticks it to
> the tax payers..buy a car, pay it off...and STILL
> pay taxes on it...best thing to do is lobby your
> congressman...don't vote for those that keep this
> tax going


Hey capt oblivious, the personal property tax (aka car tax) is a COUNTY tax, not a state tax.

Oh, and Congress is a Federal body, they don't have anything to do with State or Local taxes.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

I have seen it much worse.

In California, they combine the car tax with the registration. It is fucking obnoxiously high. No tax paid means your license plate is expired. They base it off of the actual sales price of the car. Private party vehicle sales usually created two bills of sale - One legal full-price bill of sale and another one for much less that you give the DMV. At least you don't have to buy a sticker.

VA assesses the value for you. You can only pull that dual-bill-of-sale shit with stuff that doesn't show up in pricing guides like purpose-built trailers. I haven't seen property tax for off-highway vehicles or boats, but everything with a license plate generates a bill.

Hooray to Fairfax County for not making you buy that stupid sticker. They have these crazy "computer things" that can track that shit. The cities that make you buy stickers are just fucking you over for a few dollars more. If I had an expired city sticker, I would just scrape it off and pretend I'm not a city resident.

Also, if you move out of VA, they refund the taxes pro-rata. California keeps it as soon as it is paid. I moved three vehicles out here and promptly re-titled/registered them in VA. CA sent me to collections when my renewal went unpaid and I had to prove to them that they're no longer entitled. Assholes.

wnrsm Wrote:
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> Also, if you move out of VA, they refund the taxes
> pro-rata. California keeps it as soon as it is
> paid. I moved three vehicles out here and
> promptly re-titled/registered them in VA. CA sent
> me to collections when my renewal went unpaid and
> I had to prove to them that they're no longer
> entitled. Assholes.


Yeah I moved to California several years back, but ended up needing to move back to the east coast after just 3 months. I had just started the process of doing car tax / registration, etc. when I found out, and basically had to beg a guy to lose my paperwork - or I would have been charged $1000+ for 3 months.

snowdenscold Wrote:
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> Yeah I moved to California several years back, but
> ended up needing to move back to the east coast
> after just 3 months. I had just started the
> process of doing car tax / registration, etc. when
> I found out, and basically had to beg a guy to
> lose my paperwork - or I would have been charged
> $1000+ for 3 months.

I lived in an apartment in Maryland for three months when I moved here so that I could go house hunting. It was a day-long bureaucratic mess to just get Maryland drivers licenses... and that was with me doing my homework and coming in with every document they required.

I have the title in-hand for all my vehicles w/o lien holders. I figured I could just get the vehicles inspected and tagged and I'd be good to go. The MD inspection was not available on weekends, so getting MD tags was going to take another weekday or two. I just started a new job out here and taking days off was tough. Fuck that. Once I narrowed down my house hunt to Fairfax County I didn't bother registering my vehicles in MD.

If MD had not made it so inconvenient to title and register the vehicles there, I would have followed their laws and given them the taxes they had coming. VA was a whole different set of rules, but I didn't miss work days because of it.

me love you long time Wrote:
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> I looked up my car in nada as full trade in value
> ( what fairfax tax says they use) and it came in
> at 34k could I appeal their assessment

Realistically? Only if you have unusually high mileage car, like 25K+/year, and if you can prove it with safety or emission slip. And even then the difference is not that big - I had a 2 y.o. car with 72K miles, only then the savings were worth the effort.

I paid almost $2,400 for the year for my car, they valued the car for more than I bought it for new at the dealership.

fo Wrote:
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> capt obvious Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yup the yearly hosing that va state sticks it
> to
> > the tax payers..buy a car, pay it off...and
> STILL
> > pay taxes on it...best thing to do is lobby
> your
> > congressman...don't vote for those that keep
> this
> > tax going
>
>
> Hey capt oblivious, the personal property tax (aka
> car tax) is a COUNTY tax, not a state tax.
>
> Oh, and Congress is a Federal body, they don't
> have anything to do with State or Local taxes.
>
> A mind is a terrible thing to waste.


State has a "congress" moron, they vote on such things...the state govner can effect change in the tax.....please learn what the fuck you're talking about...k thanks bye

I just got bills of 1247.49 and 231.75.

This tax is outrageous! It's essentially double taxation, two registrations.

FML..... For my 2016 p/u truck...$1,100...this is so fucked up. I pay tax to register it.Then I have to pay tax on the vehicle every year.

Why cant we vote against this bullshit!

Ha, I wish my tax bill was only $1k. It's over $4000 for a 5 year old 458.

My cars are worth $30,000 to $100,000 but because they are "old" there is zero tax. No emissions tests either. Just study the rules of the game and you can find plenty of ways to come out ahead. Also note that each county sets its own tax rate and has its own policies for assessing value.