fcpd have them?

no they dont. just goals you are supposed to meet which is basically 1 or 2 tickets a shift.

Douche bags who do not turn on their lights when it is raining!

Hello, we fucking can't see you in your gray car when it is raining.

Lights are made for a reason. USE THEM!

How about this ticket. Wrote:
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> Douche bags who do not turn on their lights when
> it is raining!
>
> Hello, we fucking can't see you in your gray car
> when it is raining.
>
> Lights are made for a reason. USE THEM!


This. I don't get it. We have those gray days where everything is gray--the sky, the road, the buildings--and some dipshiat in a gray car thinks anybody's going to be able to see him without his lights on. They always act all surprised when people cut them off and shit. It's always those damned gray cars that do it, too.

I think the motorcycle cops have them. Don't think the regular patrol cops have any quota. If you get stopped by a cop on a motorcycle you are pretty much screwed.

Howie Feltersnatch Wrote:
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>
> This. I don't get it. We have those gray days
> where everything is gray--the sky, the road, the
> buildings--and some dipshiat in a gray car thinks
> anybody's going to be able to see him without his
> lights on. They always act all surprised when
> people cut them off and shit. It's always those
> damned gray cars that do it, too.

The person you responded to was talking about rain. Are you one of those idiots who thinks headlights need to be on whenever it's cloudy?

Somehow I manage to see other cars just fine when it's cloudy.

isnt it VA law - wipers on, lights on?

no Wrote:
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> no they dont. just goals you are supposed to meet
> which is basically 1 or 2 tickets a shift.

That sounds like a quota to me...

the law Wrote:
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> isnt it VA law - wipers on, lights on?

Yup.

counter its not since there is no official punishment for missing it. its just a way to make sure they arent just sitting around all day. if you wanna get on a motorcycle unit youre expected to far exceed that number though

no Wrote:
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> counter its not since there is no official
> punishment for missing it.

I've always read/heard this - "no quota but if you don't make that unofficial number watch out!"

A quota is a quota is a quota.

Never heard the motorcycle officer higher nonquota, though, have to admit. Is that because riding a bike is a lot more fun (weather permitting)? I wouldn't think there's much different in the patrols otherwise.

if you miss the number every now and then youll be fine but you might not get promoted as fast, but yes you will probably get a desk job pretty fast if you always miss it or get fired if you are still on probation, its pretty low for the number of hours they work but i can see why they need it to make sure you are doing something. the higher for the bikes is cus its a special unit and the main purpose of the motorcycle cops is to just write traffic tickets since they cannot transport people that are arrested ect.

counter Wrote:
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> no Wrote:
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> > no they dont. just goals you are supposed to
> meet
> > which is basically 1 or 2 tickets a shift.
>
> That sounds like a quota to me...


you think so??, if I sit on my front porch for an hour , I can see at LEAST 2 violations go by, I think 2 tickets a shift would mean the cops have eyesight issues

counter Wrote:
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> no Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > counter its not since there is no official
> > punishment for missing it.
>
> I've always read/heard this - "no quota but if you
> don't make that unofficial number watch out!"
>
> A quota is a quota is a quota.
>
> Never heard the motorcycle officer higher
> nonquota, though, have to admit. Is that because
> riding a bike is a lot more fun (weather
> permitting)? I wouldn't think there's much
> different in the patrols otherwise.

There's a difference between "You must write X tickets per shift" and "You're working traffic patrol and we expect you to do your job." They don't dictate how many tickets you have to get every day, but they do know the difference between an officer actually patrolling and an officer sitting in the Dunkin Donuts parking lot all day. Being significantly below average once a week or so isn't likely to be a big deal. Being consistently below average is.

I actually did work parking enforcement for a summer down in VA Beach and wrote parking tickets for residential parking violations. Nobody ever said I had a specific target. Instead it depended on a lot of factors; what zone I was patrolling, what the weather was like, what day of the week it was, etc. I'd know when I was having slow days and when I was having prolific days, but I never heard anything beyond a "wow, not much going on" or a "wow, busy day eh" at the end of my shift. So long as you didn't string together too many "slow" days everything was good.

should have been more clear. the goals are monthly which is why they are out in full force the first nice day after several days of bad weather. The numbers just break down to 1-2 tickets on average per shift.

Kilton Wrote:

> The person you responded to was talking about
> rain. Are you one of those idiots who thinks
> headlights need to be on whenever it's cloudy?
>
> Somehow I manage to see other cars just fine when
> it's cloudy.


Listen, if you're dumb enough to drive a car that's the exact same color as everything else when it's a foggy/overcast/dreary/rainy--basically GRAY--day, then don't act all shocked when people don't see you. Turn your goddamn lights on or get a different color car.

no Wrote:
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> ...The numbers just break down to 1-2 tickets on average per shift.

I have to admit I thought the nonquota was a LOT more than that, assuming "shift" is more than a few hours.

How about this ticket. Wrote:
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> Douche bags who do not turn on their lights when
> it is raining!
>
> Hello, we fucking can't see you in your gray car
> when it is raining.
>
> Lights are made for a reason. USE THEM!

How about people who put on the hazards, i never remember reading that in the DMV manual. I always thought you should only use hazards when STOPPED, or disabled (driving slow because the car won't go any faster)

NOT because EVERYONE is driving slow in a bad rain storm.

shift is just the typical 12 hour day. they work about 16 shifts a month the goal is between 20-25 depending on the department with the future motorcycle wanna bes generally about 40. All things considered the goals themselves are very reasonable as a means to make sure you are doing something.

Just hang around Annandale on either Columbia Pike or Little River Turnpike at night at pick off the drunk Asians coming out of the bars. You can spot them driving without any headlights on past 11 p.m.

Every night I see at least 3-5 as I go out for a jog.

Tester Wrote:
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> How about this ticket. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Douche bags who do not turn on their lights
> when
> > it is raining!
> >
> > Hello, we fucking can't see you in your gray
> car
> > when it is raining.
> >
> > Lights are made for a reason. USE THEM!
>
> How about people who put on the hazards, i never
> remember reading that in the DMV manual. I always
> thought you should only use hazards when STOPPED,
> or disabled (driving slow because the car won't go
> any faster)
>
> NOT because EVERYONE is driving slow in a bad rain
> storm.

At least they have some form of lighting on. If I see hazards on, I know something's going on up ahead and slow down even if I can't see tail lights.

Howie Feltersnatch Wrote:
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> Listen, if you're dumb enough to drive a car
> that's the exact same color as everything else
> when it's a foggy/overcast/dreary/rainy--basically
> GRAY--day, then don't act all shocked when people
> don't see you. Turn your goddamn lights on or get
> a different color car.

Calm down dummy. It's just an FFU thread.

So, to answer my prior question -- you are indeed one of those idiots who thinks headlights need to be on whenever it's cloudy. Got it. :-)

(P.S. You may want to get your vision checked. I'm pretty sure the rest of us can all see gray cars just fine on cloudy days.)

I made it a habit to turn on my headlights when I start the engine and turn them off when I stop the engine. I don't have a car with daytime running lights. It is automatic behavior by now. I'm sick of people not paying fucking attention on the road.

Dear wnrsm,

I do the same thing. It such an easy thing to do. Plus it is the law in Canada.

How about we start the trend today.

TURN YOUR LIGHTS ON. It may just save your life!

My grandparents can't see shit. Turn on your lights.
Thanks.

you are smart person Wrote:
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> How about we start the trend today.
>
> TURN YOUR LIGHTS ON. It may just save your life!

You two are idiots.

Whenever I see someone with their headlights on in broad daylight, I immediately know they have no idea what they're doing. Usually it's a woman.

Fog lights during the day are even more amazing. I bet you dopes always have them on as well, right?

Hey asshole,

My car came with running daytime lights.

Jealous much?

what? Wrote:
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> Hey asshole,
>
> My car came with running daytime lights.
>
> Jealous much?

Are you really asking me if I'm jealous of your Daytime Fag Lights (DFTs)?

Best car I have ever had.

The light option is not an option.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

PS girls just want to have fun. Cindy Lauper.

Hilarious thread! No one seems to realize if you drive defensively and obey the law you will almost never get a ticket. Who cares about any ticket quota or average.

Kilton Wrote:

> So, to answer my prior question -- you are indeed
> one of those idiots who thinks headlights need to
> be on whenever it's cloudy. Got it. :-)

Let me guess, you drive a gray Honda civic that's all beat up because people keep running into it, and you never turn on your lights (because you're "savin' electricity"), and you can't figure out what the problem is.

Got it.

Howie Feltersnatch Wrote:
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>
> Let me guess, you drive a gray Honda civic that's
> all beat up because people keep running into it,
> and you never turn on your lights (because you're
> "savin' electricity"), and you can't figure out
> what the problem is.

Sorry buckwheat but I'd never drive a gray car. Talk about boring.

Let's get back to you though, since you're the idiot and are therefore more interesting. Do you also drive with your fog lights on in broad daylight? :-)

Kilton Wrote:
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> Howie Feltersnatch Wrote:
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> >
> > Let me guess, you drive a gray Honda civic that's
> > all beat up because people keep running into it,
> > and you never turn on your lights (because you're
> > "savin' electricity"), and you can't figure out
> > what the problem is.
>
> Sorry buckwheat but I'd never drive a gray car.
> Talk about boring.
>
> Let's get back to you though, since you're the
> idiot and are therefore more interesting. Do you
> also drive with your fog lights on in broad
> daylight? :-)

You're the only idiot in this thread seeing as you can't figure out that the only way to turn of Daytime Running Lights (Or as you call them Daytime Fag Lights, which you then abbreviate as DFT even though "Lights" doesn't start with T) is to turn your vehicle off.

As for myself, if I could put a fucking lighthouse on top of my car and drive around with it, I'd do it. I am that committed to making sure everyone on the road knows where I am at all times!

Howie Selterfnatch Wrote:
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>
> You're the only idiot in this thread seeing as you
> can't figure out that the only way to turn of
> Daytime Running Lights (Or as you call them
> Daytime Fag Lights, which you then abbreviate as
> DFT even though "Lights" doesn't start with T) is
> to turn your vehicle off.

Please show me where I told someone to turn off their daytime fag lights. I look forward to your response. :-)

What you'll find as you scroll up to re-read (more carefully this time, I hope) is that I only discussed daytime lights when some idiot (not you -- another idiot) asked me if I was jealous of the fact that his car has such lights. See that?

> As for myself, if I could put a fucking lighthouse
> on top of my car and drive around with it, I'd do
> it. I am that committed to making sure everyone
> on the road knows where I am at all times!

Well of this I have no doubt. But it has nothing to do with safety. You just crave attention. Mommy didn't give you enough of it growing up, so here we are.

But let's get back to what started this discourse in this first place: Your claim that gray cars are invisible on cloudy days. This is what we should be focusing on, because it really boggles my mind that you can't see gray cars on cloudy days unless they have their lights on. What is your vision? 20/1000? :-)

I guess I want to know are we saying 1-2 tickets in a 12 hour shift is to little or to much??

Insurance companies give you a discount if your car has daytime running lights, so they obviously think they reduce accidents.

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> fcpd have them?

Yeah man, there's a quota. It's not because you can't fucking drive, it's because the mean popo has a quota. Yep, that's it, it's the quota!

bigdog Id say neither. Id say it is what it is. It makes sure they do something but clearly isnt high enough to force them to make stuff up. Id only be concerned if university police had that as well which they dont

Bigdog Wrote:
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> I guess I want to know are we saying 1-2 tickets
> in a 12 hour shift is to little or to much??

I find it hard to believe (too little) but have nothing other than hunch to base that on.

I would have expected (at least) 1 to 2 per hour.

if your experiences have lead you to think its that high you should probably slow down. that would be absurdly high. also considering a dui takes 3-4 hours to process they would never be able to come close to that amount of tickets.

Nah, my experience is essentially no tickets at all, however I sincerely still find it hard to believe a patrol officer in a car only writes one or two tickets a day on average.

How about some tickets for failing to keep right unless passing. Write the mexicans driving beaters 20mph under the limit in the left lane. Old farts driving 1990s jew canoes (Cadillacs) in the left lane doing 25 in a 50 zone.

book em dano Wrote:
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> How about some tickets for failing to keep right
> unless passing.

Maybe because there's no such law in Virginia.

I got $20 on 'another user' being a left-lane blocker.

no one said thats the actual average just what their performance goals come out to. some write more some write less. some days they may write none, some 10. it all just depends. if your investigating something or responding to calls you are not writing traffic tickets, just like if you get a dui you are tied up for a few hours. it all just depends on what that day brings