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HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Kiev
()
Date: December 18, 2007 01:53PM
I have been living without much heat in the past 48 hours, and I would really appreciate any advice.
My story:
My air handler motor is dying, only working 30 minutes at a time before slowing down and coming to a complete stop, accompanied with humming noise & some burning smell.
So, I got the replacement motor today and will go ahead and replace the old one.
One thing I want to make sure - do I need to balance the actual wheel?
I belive the clips are all in place still.
Any other related advice would really be appreciated. Thank you in advance!
My story:
My air handler motor is dying, only working 30 minutes at a time before slowing down and coming to a complete stop, accompanied with humming noise & some burning smell.
So, I got the replacement motor today and will go ahead and replace the old one.
One thing I want to make sure - do I need to balance the actual wheel?
I belive the clips are all in place still.
Any other related advice would really be appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Fairfax MF---er
()
Date: December 18, 2007 02:10PM
Kiev Wrote:
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> I have been living without much heat in the past
> 48 hours, and I would really appreciate any
> advice.
>
> My story:
>
> My air handler motor is dying, only working 30
> minutes at a time before slowing down and coming
> to a complete stop, accompanied with humming noise
> & some burning smell.
>
> So, I got the replacement motor today and will go
> ahead and replace the old one.
>
> One thing I want to make sure - do I need to
> balance the actual wheel?
>
> I belive the clips are all in place still.
>
> Any other related advice would really be
> appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Hmm. Hire someone who is HVAC certified to fix your heater?
FYI - I would make sure you have fresh batteries in your CO2 detectors while you are at it.
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> I have been living without much heat in the past
> 48 hours, and I would really appreciate any
> advice.
>
> My story:
>
> My air handler motor is dying, only working 30
> minutes at a time before slowing down and coming
> to a complete stop, accompanied with humming noise
> & some burning smell.
>
> So, I got the replacement motor today and will go
> ahead and replace the old one.
>
> One thing I want to make sure - do I need to
> balance the actual wheel?
>
> I belive the clips are all in place still.
>
> Any other related advice would really be
> appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Hmm. Hire someone who is HVAC certified to fix your heater?
FYI - I would make sure you have fresh batteries in your CO2 detectors while you are at it.
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Kiev
()
Date: December 18, 2007 02:23PM
Why would I pay someone $600+ to replace a $150 part, which takes 2 hours to do.
No CO2 here, all power equipment.
No CO2 here, all power equipment.
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Puke
()
Date: December 18, 2007 02:51PM
Kiev Wrote:
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> Why would I pay someone $600+ to replace a $150
> part, which takes 2 hours to do.
>
> No CO2 here, all power equipment.
Because it sounds like you might fuck it up and it could end up coasting you more coinage.
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> Why would I pay someone $600+ to replace a $150
> part, which takes 2 hours to do.
>
> No CO2 here, all power equipment.
Because it sounds like you might fuck it up and it could end up coasting you more coinage.
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Lurker
()
Date: December 18, 2007 03:07PM
No.
I am assuming you are replacing the fan or blower motor in the furnace? (Commonly called the squirrel cage in HVAC)
It is nice to have the fan level or balanced but I've never seen anyone take the time to do that and I have installed a couple of furnaces with friends in the HVAC business. So no.
There maybe a place to add some oil to the bearings and you probably want to do that or make sure it has been oiled.
Hope that helps, it should be very simple to do.
Oh, almost forgot, you should complete the replacement by 3pm and head to the local happy hour after for it to be a complete HVAC repair.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/2007 03:11PM by Lurker.
I am assuming you are replacing the fan or blower motor in the furnace? (Commonly called the squirrel cage in HVAC)
It is nice to have the fan level or balanced but I've never seen anyone take the time to do that and I have installed a couple of furnaces with friends in the HVAC business. So no.
There maybe a place to add some oil to the bearings and you probably want to do that or make sure it has been oiled.
Hope that helps, it should be very simple to do.
Oh, almost forgot, you should complete the replacement by 3pm and head to the local happy hour after for it to be a complete HVAC repair.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/2007 03:11PM by Lurker.
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Kiev
()
Date: December 18, 2007 03:09PM
Its the blower motor, inside the air handler.
I think the bearings are sealed, but I will check.
Thank you!
I think the bearings are sealed, but I will check.
Thank you!
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Hand Man
()
Date: December 18, 2017 05:31PM
Kiev Wrote:
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> Its the blower motor, inside the air handler.
> I think the bearings are sealed, but I will
> check.
>
> Thank you!
You should be able to handle that repair.
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> Its the blower motor, inside the air handler.
> I think the bearings are sealed, but I will
> check.
>
> Thank you!
You should be able to handle that repair.
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Ground is down the World around
()
Date: December 18, 2017 06:03PM
Just be careful with the squirrel cage and you should be fine. You will need Allen wrenches to remove the cage.
Happy Holidays and stay warm.
Happy Holidays and stay warm.
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
If The Bearings Go
()
Date: December 18, 2017 08:29PM
The money you'll save can replace them and more. The blower fan going is very common, and a fairly easy fix and diagnose whats wrong.
You do know where and what the power cut off breaker is I hope, and how to check that its the right one and its all off
You do know where and what the power cut off breaker is I hope, and how to check that its the right one and its all off
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
4lgkn
()
Date: December 19, 2017 12:02AM
replace the capacitor, it's strapped to the side of the motor don't shock yourself, it's ~ $25 and available at local commercial supply store(s), it's usually the problem if a fan is intermittent
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
cyjtn
()
Date: December 19, 2017 12:09AM
Kiev Wrote:
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> I have been living without much heat in the past
> 48 hours, and I would really appreciate any
> advice.
>
> My story:
>
> My air handler motor is dying, only working 30
> minutes at a time before slowing down and coming
> to a complete stop, accompanied with humming noise
> & some burning smell.
it could be the motor overheating (also the capacitor failing: both)
that could be due to a loose ground (lowered amperage can cause overheating)
if your quick and the winding coatings (famous electrical burning smell) re-seals, your motor may still be good
but the motors are not terribly expensive erither
either way you need to know why it failed and how old it is or you'll be back here again soon !
> So, I got the replacement motor today and will go
> ahead and replace the old one.
>
> One thing I want to make sure - do I need to
> balance the actual wheel?
>
> I belive the clips are all in place still.
>
> Any other related advice would really be
> appreciated. Thank you in advance!
get the capacitor while your there
if your whole jig vibrates after you replace the motor make sure it doesn't - it will eat all your blower power you'll have no airflow. it should sound smooth and placing your hand on the furnace wall: feel no real vibration and certainly hear no shuddering vibration
* clean it out, dust will kill anything
* check all the connections and insure they're tight. hvac in the area have allot of "nut fastened" connections that, during operation or by maintenance: might be loose (ground) contacts
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> I have been living without much heat in the past
> 48 hours, and I would really appreciate any
> advice.
>
> My story:
>
> My air handler motor is dying, only working 30
> minutes at a time before slowing down and coming
> to a complete stop, accompanied with humming noise
> & some burning smell.
it could be the motor overheating (also the capacitor failing: both)
that could be due to a loose ground (lowered amperage can cause overheating)
if your quick and the winding coatings (famous electrical burning smell) re-seals, your motor may still be good
but the motors are not terribly expensive erither
either way you need to know why it failed and how old it is or you'll be back here again soon !
> So, I got the replacement motor today and will go
> ahead and replace the old one.
>
> One thing I want to make sure - do I need to
> balance the actual wheel?
>
> I belive the clips are all in place still.
>
> Any other related advice would really be
> appreciated. Thank you in advance!
get the capacitor while your there
if your whole jig vibrates after you replace the motor make sure it doesn't - it will eat all your blower power you'll have no airflow. it should sound smooth and placing your hand on the furnace wall: feel no real vibration and certainly hear no shuddering vibration
* clean it out, dust will kill anything
* check all the connections and insure they're tight. hvac in the area have allot of "nut fastened" connections that, during operation or by maintenance: might be loose (ground) contacts
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
edvfw
()
Date: December 19, 2017 12:15AM
it's probably jsut the capacitor they have to be changed regularly. it's a flask sized object strapped to the motor (most models)
if your cap fails regularly (and given the smell, but ignoring the noise), check your grounds
clean and check grounds anyway
nothing wrong with a new motor but you may not need one
if your cap fails regularly (and given the smell, but ignoring the noise), check your grounds
clean and check grounds anyway
nothing wrong with a new motor but you may not need one
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Expert1
()
Date: December 19, 2017 09:53AM
edvfw Wrote:
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> it's probably jsut the capacitor they have to be
> changed regularly. it's a flask sized object
> strapped to the motor (most models)
>
> if your cap fails regularly (and given the smell,
> but ignoring the noise), check your grounds
>
> clean and check grounds anyway
>
> nothing wrong with a new motor but you may not
> need one
You are a ignorant fuck.
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> it's probably jsut the capacitor they have to be
> changed regularly. it's a flask sized object
> strapped to the motor (most models)
>
> if your cap fails regularly (and given the smell,
> but ignoring the noise), check your grounds
>
> clean and check grounds anyway
>
> nothing wrong with a new motor but you may not
> need one
You are a ignorant fuck.
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
t3c9d
()
Date: December 19, 2017 01:35PM
> You are a ignorant fuck.
shut the fuck up
justify your claim with something real or GTFO
shut the fuck up
justify your claim with something real or GTFO
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Expert1
()
Date: December 19, 2017 04:17PM
t3c9d Wrote:
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> > You are a ignorant fuck.
>
> shut the fuck up
>
> justify your claim with something real or GTFO
Only an ignorant fuck tries to respond to a 10 year old post.
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> > You are a ignorant fuck.
>
> shut the fuck up
>
> justify your claim with something real or GTFO
Only an ignorant fuck tries to respond to a 10 year old post.
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
339hj
()
Date: December 20, 2017 11:41PM
true that, this isn't the DiY forum you can search for answers
i didn't do it, i was FOOLED by it, there were 2 new posts above it i don't always check the OP time stamp
i didn't do it, i was FOOLED by it, there were 2 new posts above it i don't always check the OP time stamp
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
uugpy
()
Date: December 20, 2017 11:44PM
Expert1 Wrote:
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> t3c9d Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>>> > > > You are a ignorant fuck.
> >
> > shut the fuck up
> >
> > justify your claim with something real or GTFO
> Only an ignorant fuck tries to respond to a 10 year old post.
you didn't justify anything. your still responding with 4th grader insults. and you did this on a post with information you don't deserve to see
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> t3c9d Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>>> > > > You are a ignorant fuck.
> >
> > shut the fuck up
> >
> > justify your claim with something real or GTFO
> Only an ignorant fuck tries to respond to a 10 year old post.
you didn't justify anything. your still responding with 4th grader insults. and you did this on a post with information you don't deserve to see
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
correction
()
Date: December 20, 2017 11:45PM
and you did this on a post with information you don't deserve to see who DID NOT revive an old post, which is quite visible by time stamps above
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
H
()
Date: December 21, 2017 07:11AM
correction Wrote:
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> and you did this on a post with information you
> don't deserve to see who DID NOT revive an old
> post, which is quite visible by time stamps above
Attachments:
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> and you did this on a post with information you
> don't deserve to see who DID NOT revive an old
> post, which is quite visible by time stamps above
Attachments:
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Ophere
()
Date: December 21, 2017 09:52AM
OP here
Replaced motor back in 07, still going strong
Replaced motor back in 07, still going strong
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
shawresse
()
Date: June 28, 2021 11:25AM
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Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Dumfrieskid
()
Date: June 28, 2021 06:15PM
4lgkn Wrote:
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> replace the capacitor, it's strapped to the side
> of the motor don't shock yourself, it's ~ $25 and
> available at local commercial supply store(s),
> it's usually the problem if a fan is intermittent
Actually if the capacitor goes bad your fan will "hum" as the motor oscillates between poles via the armatures.
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> replace the capacitor, it's strapped to the side
> of the motor don't shock yourself, it's ~ $25 and
> available at local commercial supply store(s),
> it's usually the problem if a fan is intermittent
Actually if the capacitor goes bad your fan will "hum" as the motor oscillates between poles via the armatures.
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
Dick Ed
()
Date: June 28, 2021 06:53PM
Kiev Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I have been living without much heat in the past
> 48 hours, and I would really appreciate any
> advice.
>
> My story:
>
> My air handler motor is dying, only working 30
> minutes at a time before slowing down and coming
> to a complete stop, accompanied with humming noise
> & some burning smell.
>
> So, I got the replacement motor today and will go
> ahead and replace the old one.
>
> One thing I want to make sure - do I need to
> balance the actual wheel?
>
> I belive the clips are all in place still.
>
> Any other related advice would really be
> appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Well you got fucking heat now!
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> I have been living without much heat in the past
> 48 hours, and I would really appreciate any
> advice.
>
> My story:
>
> My air handler motor is dying, only working 30
> minutes at a time before slowing down and coming
> to a complete stop, accompanied with humming noise
> & some burning smell.
>
> So, I got the replacement motor today and will go
> ahead and replace the old one.
>
> One thing I want to make sure - do I need to
> balance the actual wheel?
>
> I belive the clips are all in place still.
>
> Any other related advice would really be
> appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Well you got fucking heat now!
Re: HVAC Advice Needed
Posted by:
This Checks Out!
()
Date: June 28, 2021 07:08PM
Dick Ed Wrote:
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> Kiev Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have been living without much heat in the
> past
> > 48 hours, and I would really appreciate any
> > advice.
> >
> > My story:
> >
> > My air handler motor is dying, only working 30
> > minutes at a time before slowing down and
> coming
> > to a complete stop, accompanied with humming
> noise
> > & some burning smell.
> >
> > So, I got the replacement motor today and will
> go
> > ahead and replace the old one.
> >
> > One thing I want to make sure - do I need to
> > balance the actual wheel?
> >
> > I belive the clips are all in place still.
> >
> > Any other related advice would really be
> > appreciated. Thank you in advance!
>
>
> Well you got fucking heat now!
This Checks Out!
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> Kiev Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have been living without much heat in the
> past
> > 48 hours, and I would really appreciate any
> > advice.
> >
> > My story:
> >
> > My air handler motor is dying, only working 30
> > minutes at a time before slowing down and
> coming
> > to a complete stop, accompanied with humming
> noise
> > & some burning smell.
> >
> > So, I got the replacement motor today and will
> go
> > ahead and replace the old one.
> >
> > One thing I want to make sure - do I need to
> > balance the actual wheel?
> >
> > I belive the clips are all in place still.
> >
> > Any other related advice would really be
> > appreciated. Thank you in advance!
>
>
> Well you got fucking heat now!
This Checks Out!