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Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
drive
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Date: July 19, 2011 04:54PM
Can anyone recommend a good Toyota dealership in the area? I am looking to buy a used Corolla as a first choice, but other car recs are welcome.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
Snapple
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Date: July 19, 2011 04:58PM
Corollas are incredibly boring, they have soft suspension so they ride well for a small car but they don't handle well.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
Capt Obvious
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Date: July 19, 2011 05:12PM
um...this person asked for info about a good reputable dealership, not about which car they should purchase. kay?thanksbyeSnapple
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
ummmm
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Date: July 19, 2011 05:13PM
wrong. the OP does want car recs.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
not craigslist
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Date: July 19, 2011 05:17PM
autotrader.com
buy from a private seller. way cheaper than buying from a dealership. take the corolla to the toyota dealership to do an overall inspection before making the purchase. you will save a ton of money, and wont get suckered into buying shitty warranties.
get your financing from your credit union. penfed and navyfed have awesome rates.
buy from a private seller. way cheaper than buying from a dealership. take the corolla to the toyota dealership to do an overall inspection before making the purchase. you will save a ton of money, and wont get suckered into buying shitty warranties.
get your financing from your credit union. penfed and navyfed have awesome rates.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
drive
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Date: July 19, 2011 05:34PM
Has anyone gone to Ourisman? They seem very pricey, so I was hoping there was another reputable dealer in the area.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
hoocoodanode
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Date: July 19, 2011 05:44PM
Have you checked Springfield Toyota? The Toyota website should give you a list of dealerships.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
watchout
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Date: July 19, 2011 05:45PM
drive Wrote:
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> Has anyone gone to Ourisman? They seem very
> pricey, so I was hoping there was another
> reputable dealer in the area.
Buying a car... maybe.
Servicing a car... stay away.
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> Has anyone gone to Ourisman? They seem very
> pricey, so I was hoping there was another
> reputable dealer in the area.
Buying a car... maybe.
Servicing a car... stay away.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
Tacoma
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Date: July 19, 2011 07:32PM
You might be able to get a better 'deal' on a new vehicle...
That being said, we got our new vehicle from Bill Page Toyota, using a buying service from the credit union.
Good Luck!
That being said, we got our new vehicle from Bill Page Toyota, using a buying service from the credit union.
Good Luck!
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
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Date: July 19, 2011 08:14PM
This is getting close to the time when cars do their year end closeouts. They are all selling 2012s now, so a 2011 looks like a liability to them.
OTOH, supply for new cars (especially Japanese ones) is low owing to the effects of the tsunami/earthquake. Most every Japanese manufacturer had a total line shutdown or major component shutdown owing to the 'quake.
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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"
OTOH, supply for new cars (especially Japanese ones) is low owing to the effects of the tsunami/earthquake. Most every Japanese manufacturer had a total line shutdown or major component shutdown owing to the 'quake.
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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
drive
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Date: July 19, 2011 08:16PM
I would like to buy the car in Sept, should I wait closer to the holidays in Dec for sales?
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
Les
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Date: July 19, 2011 08:35PM
You might want to wait till October/November when Japan's production is supposed to recover and the model year changeover forces down prices of 2010s and 2011s.
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/07/18/3777339/summary-box-small-car-prices-to.html
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/07/18/3777339/summary-box-small-car-prices-to.html
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
djeHd
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Date: July 19, 2011 09:03PM
I bought a used 4Runner from Miller Toyota years ago. One of the best car buying experiences I've had.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
JBass
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Date: July 19, 2011 09:39PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2011 09:39PM by JBass.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
Greg
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Date: July 19, 2011 09:57PM
watchout,
I'd say Ourisman is worse at sales than service. When I bought my Tacoma last year they wouldn't even look at me because I was 22 but I had cash in hand. Their service department is great but you always have to schedule an appointment at the Fairfax location.
I would advise going to Koons but unless you are looking for a certified-used car I would look at private party or some of the smaller dealerships in the area.
I'd say Ourisman is worse at sales than service. When I bought my Tacoma last year they wouldn't even look at me because I was 22 but I had cash in hand. Their service department is great but you always have to schedule an appointment at the Fairfax location.
I would advise going to Koons but unless you are looking for a certified-used car I would look at private party or some of the smaller dealerships in the area.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
drive
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Date: July 19, 2011 09:59PM
Les, thanks for the info! I am looking for a certified used car and appreciate everyone's feedback.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
jE7Gt
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Date: July 19, 2011 10:08PM
Leesburg seems really small but the people are nice.
Ourisman is kind of a pain. I'd never buy from them again. High pressure, didn't keep their promises. Bah.
Kay Jennings in Springfield gets good reviews, but I've never bought or had service there.
Ourisman is kind of a pain. I'd never buy from them again. High pressure, didn't keep their promises. Bah.
Kay Jennings in Springfield gets good reviews, but I've never bought or had service there.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
hyundai-owner
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Date: July 19, 2011 11:16PM
get a hyundai elantra or sonata..
best value for your money and highly reliable,
also more of the hyundai's cars are built in america than ford or chevy
best value for your money and highly reliable,
also more of the hyundai's cars are built in america than ford or chevy
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
zzzzzzzzzz
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Date: July 19, 2011 11:57PM
what's wrong with the warranties?
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
.........
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Date: July 20, 2011 10:22AM
Snapple Wrote:
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> Corollas are incredibly boring, they have soft
> suspension so they ride well for a small car but
> they don't handle well.
They are also the vehicle of choice for third-worlders.
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> Corollas are incredibly boring, they have soft
> suspension so they ride well for a small car but
> they don't handle well.
They are also the vehicle of choice for third-worlders.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
drive
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Date: July 20, 2011 10:25AM
If they can afford a Corolla they are doing pretty well- I don't see many illegals in Corollas.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
.........
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Date: July 20, 2011 10:42AM
drive Wrote:
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> If they can afford a Corolla they are doing pretty
> well- I don't see many illegals in Corollas.
Hint: A Corolla is NOT a luxury car. If you think it is, you are probably a third-worlder.
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> If they can afford a Corolla they are doing pretty
> well- I don't see many illegals in Corollas.
Hint: A Corolla is NOT a luxury car. If you think it is, you are probably a third-worlder.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
boutdatgreen
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Date: July 20, 2011 11:26AM
I purchased a truck from Springfield Toyota...the purchase was an ok experience....the service department is something to avoid. I would recommend dealing with someone else.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
bailey_banks
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Date: July 20, 2011 11:38AM
"Ourisman is kind of a pain. I'd never buy from them again. High pressure, didn't keep their promises. Bah. "
I agree with this statement 100%
I recommend NOT going to Ourisman
I agree with this statement 100%
I recommend NOT going to Ourisman
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
Toyota
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Date: July 20, 2011 11:58AM
I would recommend Koons Tysons, surprisingly.
Get in touch with Seneca Wallace. Settle on a price and terms beforehand. Then Go in and get it done, make it easy.
They're really the only one that I found that didn't try to get me caught up in a bunch of BS. I got the price in advance, and the price was good. I went in, test drove and signed the papers with just a bit of negotiation on the trade-in.
Ourisman is full of rag-heads. The place just oozes sleaze. They won't even come out and quote you a price, "We'll work something out" is the best I could get. I told them what I wanted it for, the same price I'd already been offered at Koons. "We'll work it out", the dude said. Then called me the next morning with a "Managers Special" on that same car...that was still more expensive than the price i'd already gotten from Koons.
Bullshit.
Get in touch with Seneca Wallace. Settle on a price and terms beforehand. Then Go in and get it done, make it easy.
They're really the only one that I found that didn't try to get me caught up in a bunch of BS. I got the price in advance, and the price was good. I went in, test drove and signed the papers with just a bit of negotiation on the trade-in.
Ourisman is full of rag-heads. The place just oozes sleaze. They won't even come out and quote you a price, "We'll work something out" is the best I could get. I told them what I wanted it for, the same price I'd already been offered at Koons. "We'll work it out", the dude said. Then called me the next morning with a "Managers Special" on that same car...that was still more expensive than the price i'd already gotten from Koons.
Bullshit.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
drive
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Date: July 20, 2011 12:06PM
Thanks for all the suggestions... any advice about negotiating a price?
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
KK
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Date: July 20, 2011 01:38PM
Do some research and decide exactly what you want
You can find out what a fair price is
Go into the dealership and say, "ok, you have one shot, give me your best price for and then list the model and option"
do the same thing to 2 or 3 other dealers.
some of them will refuse to give you a quote - get out of there fast! Like the guy said above about them saying "we'll work something out"
don't sit down with them, remain standing and if they screw around or stall, walk out
keep it formal - this is business not a social call
don't answer their personal questions, like where you work, etc
If they give you a price and say something like this is good for today only, that is BS
If they ask you what color you want don't answer. To them that is a "tell" that you have already made a decision and that they are trying to create "visual ownership"
Don't go to the bathroom, to them this is a sign that you have capitulated
Make them give you an "out the door" or "over the curb" price with all their fees and charges included. You can refuse them or negotiate them.
I've walked out on deals where I thought the "dealer processing fee" was too high
Remember this, they need you a lot more than you need them. There are lots of car dealerships. And remember this, there will always be another "deal of a lifetime" probably tomorrow!
Good Luck.
You can find out what a fair price is
Go into the dealership and say, "ok, you have one shot, give me your best price for and then list the model and option"
do the same thing to 2 or 3 other dealers.
some of them will refuse to give you a quote - get out of there fast! Like the guy said above about them saying "we'll work something out"
don't sit down with them, remain standing and if they screw around or stall, walk out
keep it formal - this is business not a social call
don't answer their personal questions, like where you work, etc
If they give you a price and say something like this is good for today only, that is BS
If they ask you what color you want don't answer. To them that is a "tell" that you have already made a decision and that they are trying to create "visual ownership"
Don't go to the bathroom, to them this is a sign that you have capitulated
Make them give you an "out the door" or "over the curb" price with all their fees and charges included. You can refuse them or negotiate them.
I've walked out on deals where I thought the "dealer processing fee" was too high
Remember this, they need you a lot more than you need them. There are lots of car dealerships. And remember this, there will always be another "deal of a lifetime" probably tomorrow!
Good Luck.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
watchout
()
Date: July 20, 2011 05:08PM
Greg Wrote:
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> watchout,
>
> Their service department is great but you
> always have to schedule an appointment at the
> Fairfax location.
That's the beef I have with the service. The past few times I went, I DID call to schedule an appointment (weekdays, too). I stopped giving them my business because I would call for an appointment for routine service and it would STILL take two hours to perform the work. Those jerkoffs cram as many "appointments" as possible into a time slot. They appear to have a sheet/papers up front with who will be coming in.. so they are organized enough to know how many appointments they have. It's just no one says "Hey.. wait a minute, we have 40 appointments for this evening... isn't that too many?"
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> watchout,
>
> Their service department is great but you
> always have to schedule an appointment at the
> Fairfax location.
That's the beef I have with the service. The past few times I went, I DID call to schedule an appointment (weekdays, too). I stopped giving them my business because I would call for an appointment for routine service and it would STILL take two hours to perform the work. Those jerkoffs cram as many "appointments" as possible into a time slot. They appear to have a sheet/papers up front with who will be coming in.. so they are organized enough to know how many appointments they have. It's just no one says "Hey.. wait a minute, we have 40 appointments for this evening... isn't that too many?"
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
drive
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Date: July 20, 2011 05:15PM
KK, all great advice, thanks. What kind of answer do I give if they ask me about my job?
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
........
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Date: July 20, 2011 11:35PM
drive Wrote:
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> KK, all great advice, thanks. What kind of answer
> do I give if they ask me about my job?
How about the truth:
I'm broke, unemployed, and if you sell this car to me it the repo man will bring it back within 6 months.
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> KK, all great advice, thanks. What kind of answer
> do I give if they ask me about my job?
How about the truth:
I'm broke, unemployed, and if you sell this car to me it the repo man will bring it back within 6 months.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
rob
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Date: July 21, 2011 01:40AM
go buy a car in MD. md has a limit on processing fees due to laws. i went to check out a car in tysons corner, and they wanted 450 processing fee. ha!.
in my opinion, md dealerships are more willing to negotiate than here in nova.
in my opinion, md dealerships are more willing to negotiate than here in nova.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
drive
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Date: July 21, 2011 10:06AM
Thanks Rob, that is a great point.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
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Date: July 21, 2011 10:55PM
Definitely Leesburg Toyota.
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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
myview
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Date: July 23, 2011 01:51AM
Ourisman Service seeing is believing. Bring in for a 30, 45, 60K serivce and see how much you get dicked. Do not take my word for it. New transmission, new fuel pump, new spark plugs, new compressor, new you name it they will sell it to me.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
Paul Ourisman
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Date: July 27, 2011 03:39PM
Ourisman toyota is the best dealership in the area, deals always the best...Sleesburg Toyota and Bill Page give you false prices and start adding shit on in there finance office
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
drive
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Date: July 27, 2011 03:48PM
Leesburg has horrific online reviews, I am glad the poster here had a good experience but I am going to stay away. I think I am going to buy the car in MD.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
myview
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Date: July 27, 2011 07:37PM
Thank you Paul. No question you work there. Bunch of crooks. All are. Not to single out one dealer.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
takeahike
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Date: July 31, 2011 08:56PM
Paul Ourisman Wrote:
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> Ourisman toyota is the best dealership in the
> area, deals always the best...Sleesburg Toyota and
> Bill Page give you false prices and start adding
> shit on in there finance office
Blah blah blah. Maybe to buy a car, but it stops there. The service center is terrible.
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> Ourisman toyota is the best dealership in the
> area, deals always the best...Sleesburg Toyota and
> Bill Page give you false prices and start adding
> shit on in there finance office
Blah blah blah. Maybe to buy a car, but it stops there. The service center is terrible.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
The Ghost of Justin Wolfe
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Date: July 31, 2011 09:34PM
Paul Ourisman Wrote:
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> Ourisman toyota is the best dealership in the
> area, deals always the best...Sleesburg Toyota and
> Bill Page give you false prices and start adding
> shit on in there finance office
Can't speak for the rest of their dealerships, but I don't like Ourisman Toyota in Chantilly one bit. Especially their salesman's lousy patronizing attitude, she was some ex-military type with a stick up her ass. Basically told us in so many words: "Fuck you, if you don't buy this car then somebody else will".
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> Ourisman toyota is the best dealership in the
> area, deals always the best...Sleesburg Toyota and
> Bill Page give you false prices and start adding
> shit on in there finance office
Can't speak for the rest of their dealerships, but I don't like Ourisman Toyota in Chantilly one bit. Especially their salesman's lousy patronizing attitude, she was some ex-military type with a stick up her ass. Basically told us in so many words: "Fuck you, if you don't buy this car then somebody else will".
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
Ut videam
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Date: July 31, 2011 09:39PM
I've heard good things about Miller Toyota in Manassas.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
rob
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Date: July 31, 2011 11:12PM
ive realized that compared to honda, toyota dealerships are sneeky, dirty playing aholes. sleeze is the nicest word you can find for them.
i had koons lie to my face about a car not available, then 2 days later emails me saying if i can put a deposit, he can get me one like i wanted. When the reality is, i drove one prior to going to him.
i ended up at carmax toyota in laurel,md and purchased my car there for the best price in the area. I e-mailed the koons guy back and said" you lied, i bought elsewhere peace".
just do yourself a favor: go to carmax and get a car.
i had koons lie to my face about a car not available, then 2 days later emails me saying if i can put a deposit, he can get me one like i wanted. When the reality is, i drove one prior to going to him.
i ended up at carmax toyota in laurel,md and purchased my car there for the best price in the area. I e-mailed the koons guy back and said" you lied, i bought elsewhere peace".
just do yourself a favor: go to carmax and get a car.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
toyota
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Date: August 01, 2011 12:36AM
Bought a 2007 tundra from miller toyota in manassas a couple years back. I had a great experience. Real nice guys, noticed a couple little dings after I purchased and they had no problem fixing them even after even though I already paid and they had no obligation. Tranny went after that rough winter, I called them, they didn't try to beat around any bush or fuck with me, just scheduled me to come in, paid for my rental car, and they covered the 5000 dollars it costed to replace. I give a good thumbs up to them.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
derp4miller
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Date: August 01, 2011 02:50AM
hey me too. I bought a corolla, tranny died and guess what? they upgraded me to a 2011 FJ cruiser. Nice of them.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
truecar user
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Date: August 01, 2011 03:45PM
If you're buying new, make sure to use truecar.com. It's a great site for pricing info!
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
Sososotrue
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Date: August 01, 2011 08:30PM
All that over charging me at Oursimann is now known. Looks like I am not the only one. Why cant Chantilly Oursimann fix the car right the first time. My car is a Camry not a space shuttle.
Re: Toyota dealerships
Posted by:
trannygranny
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Date: August 01, 2011 08:32PM
Tranny Granny? Did you BOTH get lemons?