I saw something about "lane splitting" being legal in California..

What about in VA?

I hate when bicyclists weave through the lined up cars at traffic lights, I always
feel like opening my door as they are approaching.

Bicycling - a stupid statement against common sense

Go on Gordon, push yourself away from the keyboard and get on a bike, burn off a few of thoe pounds. You and your "friend" Macfisto can even get a tandem and go riding together and hit the road, solving murder cases in Fairfax County.

LoLz!

@blackrock
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I think he's saying you're an asshole, GordonBlvd...

Why?


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> I hate when bicyclists weave through the lined up
> cars at traffic lights, I always
> feel like opening my door as they are approaching.

So what? Wrote:
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> Why?
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> derrr Wrote:
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> > I hate when bicyclists weave through the lined
> up
> > cars at traffic lights, I always
> > feel like opening my door as they are
> approaching.


It's dangerous and annoying. As funny as it would be, I dont want to
accidentally run them over whilst I'm changing lanes. Too much of a headache to
deal with.

Schwinn Wrote:
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> I think he's saying you're an asshole,
> GordonBlvd...


pretty good detecting, Batman. Now try and figure out what I'm saying..............
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Funny cartoon (yawn).

You forgot to ad the LoLz...

Hey look at this douche. spotted on rolling road at the new gas station near west springfield high school
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Lance really let himself go.

hahaha

This may be an appropriate epitaph for road warrier and the like:

"Here lies the body of Road Warrier Jay
who died maintaining his right of way
He was right, dead right as he sped along
but now he is dead as though he were wrong"

Seatbelt Viagra Wrote:
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> Funny cartoon (yawn).
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> You forgot to ad the LoLz...


you forgot to ad(sic) the point

derrr Wrote:
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> I hate when bicyclists weave through the lined up
> cars at traffic lights, I always
> feel like opening my door as they are approaching.

derrr, just as drivers have the responsibility to yield or stop for pedestrians and bicyclists in most crosswalks, it is the responsibility of the bicyclist to pass other traffic safely, and he is pretty much entitled to pass with safety on the right or the left.

§ 46.2-907. Overtaking and passing vehicles.

"A person riding a bicycle, electric personal assistive mobility device, electric power-assisted bicycle, motorized skateboard or scooter, or moped may overtake and pass another vehicle on either the left or right side, staying in the same lane as the overtaken vehicle, or changing to a different lane, or riding off the roadway as necessary to pass with safety."
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-907

If it bothers you so much to see a bicyclist pass you, write your legislators to encourage them to build more separated trails or to change the law. You might not want to emphasize your aggressive tendencies though and make it a fairness issue. If all the motorized vehicle drivers have to remain in the pollution- and congestion-filled roadways, everyone else should too. Fair is fair. Maybe something like: "If there are so many cars on the road that it is backed up and smelling like exhaust, nobody (car driver, pedestrian, bicycle rider, moped rider) shall be able to go any faster than the slowest vehicle driven by derrr."

Given your age, GordonBlvd, you might want to consider actually trying to ride a bike and getting some exercise..or drop dead from a heart attack...not that anyone cares.

More frequent bike induced traffic snarls will eventually piss off the majority enough to legislate bicyclists off of the road. Fine by me. Lane splitting actually seems ok to me. If traffic is stopped, go right ahead and do your thing. Just don't cause the traffic jam.

@Neville - the fact of th4e matter is that cyclists are NOT passing with safety - last time it happened to me about two weeks ago I had one pass me on the right AFTER I had put on my turn signal and was about to make a right turn.

@FatFat - man, I cant even begin to imagine the image you have in yr head of "me" - that's HILARIOUS! For yor infomation, I get plenty of exercise off yr moms ;)


@everybody else - Could you please give me an example of how a cyclist could pass a moving vehicle SAFELY while remaining in the same lane?

Hmm, Gordo (that means FAT in Spanish--LoLz), you're over 50, and you're no longer in the shape you were in during your glory days at Washington-Lee.

Just sayin' you might want to get some exercise...

My mom is not available...

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @everybody else - Could you please give me an
> example of how a cyclist could pass a moving
> vehicle SAFELY while remaining in the same lane?

Sure, sometimes on wide-laned roads in FFX County there are long lines of very slow moving traffic - for example, prior to arriving at a road construction zone where only one lane is open - where a cyclist can safely pass the moving motorists on the right hand side. Done it a few times.



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Close to home, Gordon?

@Skynet - ppl have been trying to dream up my race,gender and bodytype since I started posting here - the only answer I have to give them is: WOW, YOU REALLY NEED TO GET A LIFE IF YOU GIVE EVEN HALF A FUCK WHAT I LOOK LIKE o_0

@Berdhuis - all I know is that last time that same scenario happend to me was a cpl weeks ago, and the cyclist almost collided with me as I had already put on my turn signal and was about to make a right turn.

@Truf- ok, since you want to know so badly, here's me in a vid............
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Fake vid Gordon you rascal!

@GordonBlvd...do you really think that anyone gives a shit about what you look like?

LoLz reply in 3,2,1.....

@ProVallone - hee hee hee :)

@Orange - well, they keep bringing it up o_0

LoLz

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Neurolinguistic programming works like a charm on you, Gordon...

Washington Lee!

" Riding all the way to the right isn't safe enough because cars scare me .. I'll be MUCH safer riding in the middle of the lane instead. Who cares that I'll bring all traffic behind me to a screeching halt because I'm only going 15 - 20 mph? It's my right to snarl traffic! "

^^ you can ride in the middle of a lane all you want. Just beware that I'm not likely going to be someone who slows down and allows you to snarl traffic. I'll be the fucker cruising or in some cases, powering right past you without hesitation. Hang on buddy because if you wreck, it most certainly won't be because of me, it's all you from that point forward. Better to keep right as dead sucks.

How's this for sharing the road?

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Fairfax County had 46 reportable crashes involving bicycles in the first half of 2011. Two of these were hit and run crashes where a bicyclist was struck and the motorist fled the scene. None of these crashes involved the death of the bicyclist. In 58.7% of the crashes, the bicyclist was held at fault.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/623977.html

ya cause real men wear spandex ur a douche bag use the side walk dickhead

So I was just out driving, its 11 pm at night so its dark out, the road curves to the right and I go around the curve and there are 2 fucking bicyclists riding towards me, no lights or anything, in my lane! I had to swerve into the other lane to avoid them. I gave them a good long honk.

Fucking retards! I don't know why anyone would ride 2 abreast at night in the wrong direction. Bicyclists are supposed to ride in the same direction as traffic. I suppose they were trying to get hit.

@get_smoked
+1 for that clip

The other day on Seneca Road in Great Falls a bicyclist popped out from behind a Fed Ex truck that had come to a stop and into my lane of traffic. I had to swerve onto a driveway and non-existant shoulder to avoid making him a statistic. If I had nothing better to do and a shitty car, I wouldn't have swerved. The fucker had some nerve.

Your Daddy Wrote:
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> The other day on Seneca Road in Great Falls a
> bicyclist popped out from behind a Fed Ex truck
> that had come to a stop and into my lane of
> traffic. I had to swerve onto a driveway and
> non-existant shoulder to avoid making him a
> statistic. If I had nothing better to do and a
> shitty car, I wouldn't have swerved. The fucker
> had some nerve.

Maybe the insurance deductible is worth it for superficial damage to your car. Swerving into a nonexistent shoulder could screw up alignment/etc.

Then again, you just react in that situation and have the intrinsic decision making process to not kill the idiot.

What is the actual law for the bike baths where they cross a street such as Sunset Hills Road? Are you required by law to stop if a bike is waiting to cross the street? The other day one of them tried to wave me down to stop for him to cross. He was being such a dick head about it waving and carrying on I decided to keep going.

p Wrote:
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> What is the actual law for the bike baths where
> they cross a street such as Sunset Hills Road? Are
> you required by law to stop if a bike is waiting
> to cross the street? The other day one of them
> tried to wave me down to stop for him to cross.
> He was being such a dick head about it waving and
> carrying on I decided to keep going.


They have a stop sign and you don't. Now if you come up on the crossing and they're already in the road you're required by law to stop for them. If they're waiting to cross and waving like an idiot for you to stop because they think you should just wave back with your finger extended and smile.

Do you really have a driver's license if you don't know that pedestrians and bicycle riders have right of way at most crosswalks? Or are you just pretending you don't know, because ignorance of the law is such a good excuse?


Ignore people like Gonads & Strife who don't seem to know the law about the right of way at crosswalks. Particularly galling is that Gonads doesn't seem to understand a crosswalk area includes the bit at the side of the road where the pedestrian/bicylist is as he begins to cross the intersection. See http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+coh+46.2-100+705216 The law, by the way, talks about "at" crosswalks, not "in" crosswalks.

The main reason there are stop signs on trails when they cross intersections is to slow down the bicycle traffic enough to give the car drivers enough safe time to yield to them. The Virginia Code says that drivers shall yield to bicycle riders and pedestrians at crosswalks and at most intersections, unless there is some traffic control device or law enforcement person directing traffic otherwise.

At lights, in other words, the bicycle rider/pedestrian has to follow the standard light signals, but the bicycle rider and pedestrian has right of way at all other crosswalks (regardless of traffic speed) and at intersections without signals (if the speed is less than 35 mph).

Anyway, here is the Virginia Code:

§ 46.2-904. Use of roller skates and skateboards on sidewalks and shared-use paths; operation of bicycles, electric power-assisted bicycles, and electric personal assistive mobility devices on sidewalks and crosswalks and shared-use paths; local ordinances.

A person riding a bicycle, electric personal assistive mobility device, or an electric powerassisted bicycle on a sidewalk, shared-use path, or across a roadway on a crosswalk, shall have all the rights and duties of a pedestrian under the same circumstances.

§ 46.2-924. Drivers to stop for pedestrians; installation of certain signs; penalty.

A. The driver of any vehicle on a highway shall yield the right-of-way to any pedestrian crossing such highway:

1. At any clearly marked crosswalk, whether at mid-block or at the end of any block;
2. At any regular pedestrian crossing included in the prolongation of the lateral boundary lines of the adjacent sidewalk at the end of a block;
3. At any intersection when the driver is approaching on a highway or street where the legal maximum speed does not exceed 35 miles per hour.

B. Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection A of this section, at intersections or crosswalks where the movement of traffic is being regulated by law-enforcement officers or traffic control devices, the driver shall yield according to the direction of the law-enforcement officer or device.

No pedestrian shall enter or cross an intersection in disregard of approaching traffic.

The drivers of vehicles entering, crossing, or turning at intersections shall change their course, slow down, or stop if necessary to permit pedestrians to cross such intersections safely and expeditiously.

Pedestrians crossing highways at intersections shall at all times have the right-of-way over vehicles making turns into the highways being crossed by the pedestrians.

break-break

At a crosswalk Virginia courts have held “the pedestrian has a superior right -- that is, the right to cross from one side of the street to the other in preference or priority over vehicles -- and drivers of vehicles must respect this right and yield the right of way to the pedestrian. The pedestrian's right of way extends from one side of the street to the other. It does not begin at any particular point in the intersection nor does it end at any particular point. It begins on one side of the street and extends until the pedestrian has negotiated the crossing.” (Marshall v. Shaw. Supreme Court of Virginia, 1955)

"The duty of a motor vehicle driver on approaching an intersection is to keep a vigilant lookout for pedestrians between curbs on the traveled portion of the highway, and when pedestrians are negotiating the crossing, or about to step from the side into traffic lanes, to operate his car at such speed and under such control that he can readily turn one way or the other, and, if necessary, bring his machine to a stop in time to avoid injury to pedestrians." (Sawyer v. Bankenship, Supreme Court of Virginia, 1933)

None of this, naturally gives the pedestrian/bicyclist the right to jump in front of traffic too close to stop. The police will probably only interview the driver in such a case.

Think what you will and have fun explaining things to the judge when you slam your brakes on for some dipshit at a stop sign and the guy behind you slams you in the rear (something I have a feeling you're all too familiar with)

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@Neville - none of that applies UNLESS the pededstrian or cyclist is ALREADY in the crosswalk. And even then, going to prison for hitting, even KILLING a pedestrian or cyclist isnt really going to happen UNLESS the driver is drunk or leaves the scene. Probable worst case scenario is a ticket and a lawsuit. Is that REALLY worth your life? Food for thought when you want to risk yr life for your "right of way".

@Gonads - that bullshit happens ALL THE TIME on Hunter Mill and the W&OD trail crossing. Even though W&OD has a stop sign, ppl will come to a dead stop to let the cylcists by - yet you dont see them stop for cars at stop sign crossings (like the intersection at Hunter Station Rd which is RIGHT THERE) - always weird to see that happen LoLz

I regret to inform you that poster "Road Warrior" met with an untimely demise :(

































Oops, maybe not!

Sorry, but reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

Be seeing you.

- Road Warrior

I agree with Niggerplease

Soon we'll be seeing this everywhere...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdMBcwCn9uA&feature=related

hopefully, we'll see more of THIS! LoLz