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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: ???? ()
Date: March 03, 2015 09:53PM

hey wingnut,
i hadn't realized that anyone might not be assuming that the Mike wasn't the rat's boytoy. i was taking that as a given.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: OZ ()
Date: March 03, 2015 10:58PM

I'm wondering now too if the "hitman" cellmate of Pedofag's maybe hit Mikey in the fudgehole a few times?

I am thinking that "Hitman" is a seasoned con who took the poor Pedofag under his wing and protected him a little from the slings and arrows of life in the clink.

Seems like from the evidence letters that Hitman had some contact with Robin and I wouldn't doubt she was sending generous money orders to his canteen account. But perhaps that wasn't enough and Hitman gave Mikey a stiff sausage to the kisser when the lights went out. Seems to me Mikey would be agreeable to such an arrangement if he thought it would keep him alive.

Must be a bitch that your first "friend" in prison let you down and betrayed you. Look forward to more of it.


What a vivid, detailed, lurid imagination...sounds like you'll be sharing a cell with Gardner in the future...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 04, 2015 09:29AM

https://www.gofundme.com/WeSUPPORTtheGIRLS
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: March 04, 2015 07:41PM

Per the Court website, Gardner's trial on the 2009 charges will begin on September 21; retrial of the 2011 charges to begin November 30.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL. Mustard ()
Date: March 04, 2015 09:41PM

I presume there's no bail?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: March 04, 2015 10:35PM

No bail. Mike will continue as the taxpayers' guest.


Nearly two hours after the news was reported here the FCNP has posted a terse report on today's hearing.


http://fcnp.com/2015/03/04/new-gardner-trial-dates-set-sept-21-nov-30/

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 04, 2015 11:12PM

https://www.gofundme.com/WeSUPPORTtheGIRLS
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: March 04, 2015 11:31PM

Nick Benton and the FC elite probably welcome the delays. There probably won't be any significant developments in this case for the next six months. Gardner will fade entirely from the public mind, remembered only by his family and his victims.

The interval will give him a chance to reconsider his position and perhaps work out a deal. However, his position now is far weaker than it was last summer. Of course there's also always the chance he'll take matters into his own hands and save the Commonwealth further expense.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 04, 2015 11:44PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The old Gland in FC ()
Date: March 05, 2015 12:05AM

The Falls Church News Press has apparently chosen to pretend the murder-for-hire stuff never happened. I'd think these new allegations would be newsworthy and may help circulation. Guess it's more important to pretend nothing happened.

Amazingly sick fucking people.

I had a realtor friend who used to advertise in the FCNP, I'm going to send out a quick reminder of what a piece of shit publisher that paper has.



That damned Falls Church pedofag press...whaddya gonna do...it's a plot, I tells ya!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 05, 2015 09:50AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Great Falls is Babylon ()
Date: March 05, 2015 10:21AM

WingNut Wrote:
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> I have to ask this of-
>
> JD Callander
>
> Leslie Hutchinson
>
> Tori McKinney
>
> You are all accomplished local realtors with
> recognizable names. You've done well for
> yourselves..
>
> Maybe you are not aware, but the Falls Church News
> Press that you advertise in is not only a
> newspaper that employed a man convicted of three
> counts of child molestation.
>
> The Falls Church News Press has refused to cover
> recent allegations made in court that Michael
> Gardner sought to have the children who were
> witnesses in the case against him MURDERED. The
> local TV news networks and the Washington Post has
> covered this development, but apparently if you
> are a former writer with the FCNP and friend of
> the publisher, you are rewarded with media
> silence.
>
> JD Callander, Leslie Hutchinson, Tori McKinney: I
> am certain none of you would support a child
> molester like Michael Gardner, or would you give
> financial support to a media entity that still
> supports this sick man.
>
> Spend your advertising dollars elsewhere.




Yea, do not tarry for the labyrinth of the secular court...gather forth, burn the presses, with the pressmen still chained to their infernal machines, stoke high the flames to illuminate for all the fate of those who, even by omission, lendeth support to an evil man...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: March 05, 2015 01:30PM

Here's the problem with the News-Press. Major developments in the Gardner case over the last couple of weeks resulted in a grand total of ONE SENTENCE of coverage. The murder-for-hire allegation and the withdrawal of Gardner's lawyer were never even mentioned.

Contrast that with this, the story Benton ran when Gardner's conviction was overturned last June. I don't have a copy of the print edition but I believe it was on the front page:

http://fcnp.com/2014/06/11/michael-gardners-conviction-overturned-new-trial-slated/

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Leaving Falls Church ()
Date: March 05, 2015 02:06PM

Yea, do not tarry for the labyrinth of the secular court...gather forth, burn the presses, with the pressmen still chained to their infernal machines, stoke high the flames to illuminate for all the fate of those who, even by omission, lendeth support to an evil man...


Damn!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL. Mustard ()
Date: March 05, 2015 04:19PM

All this shows is that Nick Benton's rag is only useful for birdcage lining, if that. The FCNP is truly a rag.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: wishitwerentso ()
Date: April 02, 2015 03:15PM


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: JejUb ()
Date: April 02, 2015 03:51PM

Btw where has wingnuts been?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Great Falls is Babylon ()
Date: April 02, 2015 04:49PM

He was killed by a shemale prostitute in Washington DC....

He got rear-ended!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: touché ()
Date: April 08, 2015 09:08PM

Looks like Mikey missed out on his boy's accomplishment. Mikey will be dealing with men lunging their foils at him soon enough. En Garde, Mikey!

http://fcnp.com/2015/04/03/gardner-qualifies-fencing-national-championships/


David Gardner, an 8th grader at Mary Ellen Henderson Middle School, won the Virginia Summer Nationals Qualifiers for fencing in the Y14 Men’s Foil competition on March 22. He has earned the right to participate in the 2015 USA Fencing National Championships to be held in San Jose, California at the end of June.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Goobertown ()
Date: April 08, 2015 09:34PM

Classy...mention this innocent kid by name in a thread about his sex predator dad...

I bet you're quite proud of yourself...why don't you go to the kid's school and scream at him...that would take a certain amount of courage, wouldn't it...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Object Lesson ()
Date: April 08, 2015 10:48PM

touché Wrote:
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> Looks like Mikey missed out on his boy's
> accomplishment. Mikey will be dealing with men
> lunging their foils at him soon enough. En Garde,
> Mikey!
>
> http://fcnp.com/2015/04/03/gardner-qualifies-fenci
> ng-national-championships/
>
>
> David Gardner, an 8th grader at Mary Ellen
> Henderson Middle School, won the Virginia Summer
> Nationals Qualifiers for fencing in the Y14
> Men’s Foil competition on March 22. He has
> earned the right to participate in the 2015 USA
> Fencing National Championships to be held in San
> Jose, California at the end of June.


I thought Wingnut was an asshole, but he wouldn't have done what you did...what a fucking piece of shit you are.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Another Opinion ()
Date: April 09, 2015 09:42AM

Robin put her kid out in the public eye. This is the same Robin who has stood by her husband. This is the same Robin who appears to have tried to cover it up with Michael.

Robin should've known better.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Death is too good ()
Date: April 09, 2015 10:37AM

Another Opinion Wrote:
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> Robin put her kid out in the public eye. This is
> the same Robin who has stood by her husband. This
> is the same Robin who appears to have tried to
> cover it up with Michael.
>
> Robin should've known better.



Yeah, make the kid pay for the crime! Stone him!


Fucktard.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: April 09, 2015 11:34AM

I'm glad he's been able to rise above the storm. The boy should be proud of his accomplishments and be able to enjoy the spotlight without suffering any public ridicule. He should not be linked to his father's sins.

Motions will be heard in Gardner's case next Wednesday. Another hearing is set for May 26.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: bird cage liner ()
Date: April 09, 2015 01:20PM

Death is too good Wrote:
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> Another Opinion Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Robin put her kid out in the public eye. This
> is
> > the same Robin who has stood by her husband.
> This
> > is the same Robin who appears to have tried to
> > cover it up with Michael.
> >
> > Robin should've known better.
>
>
>
> Yeah, make the kid pay for the crime! Stone him!
>
>
> Fucktard.


Well to be fair if the FCNP can report on the younger Gardner, why can't they report on the father?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Tug ()
Date: April 09, 2015 02:01PM

Well to be fair if the FCNP can report on the younger Gardner, why can't they report on the father?


Because it's part of some pedofag plot to protect a vast network of fellow pedofags, blah, blah, blah...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: good for you ()
Date: April 09, 2015 02:23PM

Tug Wrote:
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> Well to be fair if the FCNP can report on the
> younger Gardner, why can't they report on the
> father?
>
>
> Because it's part of some pedofag plot to protect
> a vast network of fellow pedofags, blah, blah,
> blah...


Well, I guess that's good news for you......

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Busted Again ()
Date: April 09, 2015 05:48PM

good for you Wrote:
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> Tug Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well to be fair if the FCNP can report on the
> > younger Gardner, why can't they report on the
> > father?
> >
> >
> > Because it's part of some pedofag plot to
> protect
> > a vast network of fellow pedofags, blah, blah,
> > blah...
>
>
> Well, I guess that's good news for you......


Well, it was good news until a smart guy like you figured out our scheme

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL Mustard ()
Date: May 05, 2015 07:38PM

Okay, does anyone know why Mike has a release date? VADOC shows that his scheduled release is 9/9/2031. Did he plead to something?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: No deal ()
Date: May 06, 2015 07:24PM

COL Mustard Wrote:
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> Okay, does anyone know why Mike has a release
> date? VADOC shows that his scheduled release is
> 9/9/2031. Did he plead to something?


That would be his original release date. He is no longer in the VADOC but in the Arlington County Jail.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 27, 2015 07:47AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: June 04, 2015 08:31AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church Pedofag Bunker ()
Date: June 04, 2015 10:05AM

I see you are harder to kill than I had anticipated, Mr. Wangnut. My assistants have been, well, shall we say, disciplined, for not doing their job properly.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: June 04, 2015 10:08AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL Mustard ()
Date: June 04, 2015 11:30AM

@WingNut: Nothing new from me. I only check here from time to time out of curiosity.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Lucian H. ()
Date: July 15, 2015 08:37PM

The grapevine says Gardner either had his stool pushed in last night or is at least on deck for it if he doesn't get segregated. Just what I heard today.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: July 15, 2015 09:11PM

See you, in September...

See you, when the Summers thru!


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Bugsy ()
Date: July 16, 2015 09:40AM

Lucian H. Wrote:
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> The grapevine says Gardner either had his stool
> pushed in last night or is at least on deck for it
> if he doesn't get segregated. Just what I heard
> today.



The "grapevine." That's funny. You got sources, huh?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Lucian H. ()
Date: July 16, 2015 11:36AM

Yeah, I'm in the system. I hear things...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL Mustard ()
Date: July 21, 2015 06:32AM

Then I hope he is segregated. Prison rape is not a laughing matter. Incarnation is one thing, but vengeance like that is another.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Jaweh ()
Date: July 21, 2015 09:14AM

This site wants BLOOD!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL Mustard ()
Date: July 21, 2015 03:04PM

"Incarnation " should read "incarceration ".

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 78bgr ()
Date: September 06, 2015 06:39PM

thats fucked up

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL Mustard ()
Date: September 06, 2015 08:51PM

@78bgr: Care to elaborate?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 06, 2015 09:29PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: HTRTR ()
Date: September 07, 2015 09:42AM

this probably ends with a plea deal

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 08, 2015 12:45PM

The trial on Gardner's alleged molestation of his niece in 2009 is set for September 21 and is expected to last as long as ten days. Although there hasn't been any media coverage for months, there has been quite a bit of pre-trial activity over the summer, including three hearings.

The prosecution witness list includes three forensic scientists, a VSP special investigator, a teacher from TJ elementary, and an administrative specialist from Augusta CC. Robin Gardner also is listed as a Commonwealth witness.

The Court's system lists some strange prospective defense witnesses, including the managers of the Capital Iceplex and Regal Cinema.

The retrial of Gardner's 2011 case is scheduled to begin on November 30.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 09, 2015 10:05PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL Mustard ()
Date: September 10, 2015 02:11PM

Wing, you're right about the witness list. I think holidays will be very interesting for Robin for a number of years.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Nostra Strokas ()
Date: September 10, 2015 02:50PM

COL Mustard Wrote:
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> Then I hope he is segregated. Prison rape is not a
> laughing matter. Incarnation is one thing, but
> vengeance like that is another.

Some people like their tossed salad with jelly, others like it with syrup.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Another observer ()
Date: September 10, 2015 04:24PM

Interesting that the link you posted now goes to a Page Not Found error on that website. Guess his friends are circling the wagons.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 11, 2015 10:49AM

Two of Gardner's former lawyers now are listed as prosecution witnesses. Two other lawyers are also on the list.

Leibig and Batey withdrew in February when the hitman allegations surfaced:

http://www.chrisleibiglaw.com/attorneys.html#kathrynbatey

King and Thomas may be attorneys for the informant. Both are listed as Commonwealth witnesses:

http://www.kingcampbell.com/about/joseph-king

http://www.kingcampbell.com/about/megan-thomas

It will be interesting to see if Benton runs anything on the upcoming trial in next week's edition of the FCNP. Surely he knows who's representing Gardner.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL Mustard ()
Date: September 20, 2015 12:11PM

Trial still start tomorrow?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 20, 2015 02:32PM

The trial is supposed to start at 0930 tomorrow in courtroom 10A.

There haven't been any pre-trial reports, nothing really for months. I'm beginning to wonder if Benton will even file a story next Thursday. No doubt he and everyone in Gardner's circle of friends (and former friends) wish the trial were held in camera.

Peggy Fox has done a great job on this from the start, but I'm not sure she's going to cover the trial. Based on her Twitter account she's been focusing on the Severance case.

One probem for the media is that the trial may last 10 days (per the Court calendar). Not many papers or television stations are willing to cover anything continuosly for that length of time. Most media outlets have cut their staffs in recent years and haven't the resources required. There may not be any stories until a verdict is rendered.

I would very much like to attend at least one session myself but doubt I'll be able to.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 21, 2015 11:06AM

Channel 9 has posted a very brief item on the start of the trial. Nothing from the other stations as yet.

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/virginia/2015/09/21/jury-selection-child-sex-abuse-case-against-michael-gardner/72551846/

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: how has he not taken a plea? ()
Date: September 22, 2015 10:18AM

FALLS CHURCH, Va. (WUSA9) -- A former political leader in the city of Falls Church was on trial again Monday on new child sex abuse charges.

Michael Gardner is charged with sexually abusing a young relative who came forward after he was released from prison last year in another child sex assault case.

In a separate case, Gardner was accused of molesting a couple of young girls at his Falls Church home in 2011. At the time they were attending a birthday party sleep-over for Gardner's daughter.

Earlier this year prosecutors also alleged Gardner was trying to find someone to kill those girls, so they couldn't testify against him.

This trial is very different from his first trial, when he was free man and walked right into the courthouse every day. Now, despite his conviction in that case being reversed he’s locked up without bond and facing trial on new child sex accusations from his own niece. The Virginia Supreme Court previously decided he didn't get a fair trial because his wife was not allowed to testify as a character witness about him being a great caretaker of children.

Defense attorneys representing the accused child molester Gardner were reprimanded by the judge Monday for asking potential jurors leading questions.

Gardner is a former Falls Church Democratic leader, and husband of Robin Gardner, a former Falls Church mayor and council member. He’s charged with two counts of aggravated sexual battery of a child in 2009.

Those allegations were a secret until September of last year, a few months after Gardner was released from prison. He was set free after his conviction in high profile 2011 child sex assault case was reversed.

The new allegations, about prior abuse, come from Gardner’s niece, who was 12 years old at the time. She is now 18 and will be testifying against her uncle.

Prosecutor Nicole Witmann told potential jurors that the niece’s allegations against her uncle trickled out over time, with a full disclosure coming when she was 17.

In a transcript of a phone call between the niece’s father and his twin who is Robin Gardner, Mrs. Gardner appears to believe the niece’s allegations.

In the 2011 case, Gardner faces a retrial on charges he sexually assaulted a nine and 10 year old girls at his daughter’s slumber party.

Opening statements could begin Tuesday. The trial is scheduled to take two weeks.

Gardner’s retrial in the slumber party case is scheduled for November 30th.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: opening statements ()
Date: September 22, 2015 03:03PM

ARLINGTON, Va. (WUSA9) -- Opening statements are over in the child sex abuse trial of Michael Gardner. The former Falls Church mayor's husband is charged with sexually abusing a young relative who came forward after he was released from prison last year in another child sex assault case.

Gardner is a former Falls Church Democratic leader, and husband of Robin Gardner, a former Falls Church mayor and council member. He is charged with two counts of aggravated sexual battery of a child in 2009.

Those allegations were a secret until September 2014, a few months after Gardner was released from prison. He was set free after his conviction in high profile 2011 child sex assault case was reversed.

The new allegations come from Gardner’s niece, who was 12 years old at the time. She is now 18 and will be testifying against her uncle.

Jury selection was completed Tuesday morning. Both the prosecution and defense potential jurors whether they believe the children are inherently "believable." In the end, a jury of eight men and six women (two are alternates) were chosen for the trial.

In the opening statements that followed, the prosecutor told the jury what the accuser said occurred while the defense said it would prove Gardner's alibi.

Next, the prosecution will start introducing evidence. The first witness, according to the prosecutor’s opening statements, is the therapist whom Gardner’s niece reportedly told what happened five years ago.

For updates on the trial throughout the day, follow @meghannmollerus on Twitter.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL Mustard ()
Date: September 22, 2015 05:48PM

@how has he not taken a plea:

If you can figure that out, you're smarter than the rest us.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL Mustard ()
Date: September 22, 2015 09:19PM

@ Old Man:

I don't think he will take a plea. I also don't think that this trial will get as much attention as the earlier one. But, if he's convicted in both trials, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets life.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: September 23, 2015 08:47AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: doesn't look good for him ()
Date: September 23, 2015 11:05AM

ARLINGTON, Va. (WUSA9) -- Former Falls Church Democratic Committee Chairman Michael Gardner faced a new jury Tuesday in the second child sex abuse case brought by the Commonwealth against him.

Gardner has been charged with two counts of sexual battery of a child in 2009. That child, according to the indictments, is Gardner’s then-12-year-old niece, whom prosecutors say told a therapist in 2014 she had been molested by her uncle.

In opening statements, prosecutors told the jury the alleged molestation happened when the two families were together at the Gardner’s Falls Church home Thanksgiving weekend 2009.

Gardner’s wife, Robin Gardner, is the twin sister of the accuser’s father, and prosecutors told jurors the two families were close-knit and saw each other twice a year.

Prosecutors said Gardner inappropriately touched his niece twice – once in the afternoon while she watched a movie with her cousin, Gardner’s daughter, in the master bedroom. According to prosecutors, Gardner had asked the girls if they wanted massages.

The second alleged inappropriate act, prosecutors said, happened in evening when the girls had already gone to bed and Gardner snuck into his daughter’s room. Prosecutors said after this instance, the niece told Gardner, “Go away!”

Rueda explained to the jury the niece “stayed silent”—waiting five years to tell someone about what happened because she “didn’t want her cousin to think she had a bad dad.” Rueda also said she didn’t want her parents to think they hadn’t protected her.

The defense’s opening arguments revealed defense attorneys will use an “alibi” to suggest Gardner was not at the location of the alleged crimes at the times the prosecution says they occurred.

After opening arguments, prosecutors called their first witness – the accuser’s psychotherapist, Stacy Ehrhard, to the stand. Ehrhard confirmed that she is a “mandated reporter,” meaning she was required to tell authorities when the accuser revealed to her she had been a sex abuse victim.

The prosecution then called the accuser’s mother to the stand. She said she received a phone call from Robin Gardner in 2011, and the nature of that phone call prompted her to ask her daughter if her “Uncle Mike” had inappropriately touched her. The mother said her daughter ran into the bathroom, where she shut the door and cried. Her mother told the court she didn’t push her daughter to talk about it until she started acting differently – quiet and uncaring about her appearance -- on a college visit trip. After that trip, the mother said her daughter saw the therapist.

The jury makeup is eight men and six women. Two of those jurors are alternates.

The judge told jurors the trial could take up to two weeks. Attorneys and potential witnesses are under a gag order, meaning they cannot talk about the case.

Testimony resumes at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday, when the Commonwealth is expected to call more witnesses.

In a separate sex abuse case, Gardner was accused of sexually molesting three girls who attended his daughter’s 10th birthday sleepover in 2011. A jury convicted him on two counts of aggravated sexual battery and one count of object penetration related to two girls and sentenced him to 22 years in prison.

But, last year, the Virginia Supreme Court ruled to overturn the conviction and re-try the case, because a judge had improperly blocked some character testimony.

That case is expected to be re-tried this November.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 23, 2015 01:47PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> I was thinking this would be the less interesting
> of the two trials but I was mistaken.
>
> This is the case with the taped recorded phone
> call of Robin Gardner allegedly admitting that
> Michael Gardner is a child molester.
>
> In the conversation, she is purported to say
> Michael Gardner is GUILTY of molesting the niece,
> but not guilty in the slumber party touchfest.
>
> Robin Gardner is listed as a prosecution witness
> in this one, or more likely, someone who has been
> CALLED by the prosecution. My guess is that unless
> she has had a change of heart (which I doubt, she
> seems to be going down with the ship) she will
> prove herself a hostile witness and attempt some
> type of amnesia or sabotage.
>
> Jurors will be treated to the admission, but also
> be made aware of the fact that Michael Gardner has
> other child molestation convictions. Jurors could
> have been blind to this fact without this taped
> conversation.
>
> I will be curious to hear the duration and details
> of the taped conversation, as well as any kind of
> defense or denial that fat ass tries to float
> before the court.

Here is the background and some of the text of the phone call. Last December a judge ruled that the recording could not be admitted as evidence:


A female relative of Gardner, who is now 17 and lives in New Jersey, told Falls Church police that when she was visiting over Thanksgiving weekend in 2009 when she was 12, Michael Gardner put his hands down her pants and touched her genitals and buttocks on two separate times.

The father of that girl secretly recorded three phone conversations with Robin Gardner. In them, Mrs. Gardner appears to believe the allegations and implies that her husband has admitted to molesting the relative, who is referred to as M.S. in court documents.

Mrs. Gardner says, " I feel for M.S, I am not contesting anything that she has said."

Robin Gardner also says, "Michael has said, you know, clearly, M.S. says something happened and he is not refuting that something has happened."

The father of M.S. is concerned that if it goes to trial "His lawyers will rip her apart. That's what they will try to do. That's what he is going to pay them for. Not him, you. You're going to pay them to do that. "

Robin Gardner replies, "It won't go that way." She says she, "Kind of wanted to let this current thing play out and then if M.S. wants to bring Michael up on charges...afterwards...it would be settled differently.

"Don't think that our family money is going to defend Michael against MS because that is not going to happen," Robin Gardner says in the recording.*

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/2014/12/18/michael-gardner-falls-chuch-child-molestation/20605187/


* You will find more details if you look at the legal documents attached to the story. However, there seems to be a break in the text at one point.

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Date: September 23, 2015 07:09PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: September 23, 2015 10:50PM

FYI, the prosecution is considering a dismal plea deal tomorrow. In no way does this represent the best interest of the victims or the pursuit of justice!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: September 23, 2015 11:03PM

Yea, SO fuck her! She definitely knew what was going on and deserves to go to jail as an accessory. Not to mention perjury. She is the Madam of Minors!

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Date: September 24, 2015 08:25AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: September 24, 2015 11:43AM

This is simply the prosecutors dropping the ball since they are no longer permitted to be on tv, which they both highly enjoyed. Once this case could no longer advance their careers, they stabbed these little girls in the back with a smile on their face. SHAME on them!!! I can also assure you two of three victims were and are very eager to testify. THAT would bring closure. This is a surrender guised in what's "best" for the victims. There's a special place in hell for cowards like these. Total betrayal of these innocent girls! Carma is a bitch and I pray it bites both these women back as hard as they screwed these little kids over.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 24, 2015 12:39PM

Absolutely nothing on the trial in today's Falls Church News-Press.

The news media often reveal their greatest bias in choosing what not to report. Benton's non-coverage of the proceedings probably is the greatest example of news bias I have ever seen.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Tolson Esq. ()
Date: September 24, 2015 12:48PM

It's that nest o' pedofags in Falls Church! They control the courts and the media!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL Mustard ()
Date: September 24, 2015 12:49PM

@Old Man: Are you surprised that Nick isn't covering this case? I think he has almost a vested interest in protecting his friends.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 24, 2015 01:15PM

COL Mustard Wrote:
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> @Old Man: Are you surprised that Nick isn't
> covering this case? I think he has almost a
> vested interest in protecting his friends.

I'm not really surprised. This is thoroughly in character and more or less what I had expected. We will see what happens as the case continues. If Gardner is convicted Benton likely will continue to ignore the story. On the other hand, if there's a different outcome he'll probably mention it, and the more favorable the results, the more coverage he'll offer.

It's just that the man's hypocrisy is breathtaking. Sadly, few people in FC are willing to call him out.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: September 24, 2015 02:40PM

Complete travesty of justice. Wittman and rueda gave up WAY more than what even the defense was asking for while only asking the gag order be lifted so they can legally self promote. Hell is waiting for them both and I pray it doesn't have to wait long. All families and victims were present and asking only for full allocution which was ignored, then waived by prosecution "team". How very sad!!

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Date: September 24, 2015 03:15PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: how long locally? ()
Date: September 24, 2015 03:43PM

How long will he be spending at the luxurious Arlington Hilton, I mean jail?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Great Day ()
Date: September 24, 2015 04:45PM

The Plea also includes 20 years of probation which includes not being alone with minors, cant live close to schools parks etc. no porn of any kind, and regular lie detector test to make sure of compliance with the the terms of the probation. A violation could send him back for the rest of the sentence. By pleading guilty he has also waived any right to appeal.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: White Van Syndrome ()
Date: September 24, 2015 05:29PM

"there was always the risk of one liberal asshole on the jury to hold out and prolong this even more."



Good old reliable Wingnutty....

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: September 24, 2015 05:39PM

I wouldn't mind an adversary surrendering, I do mind the unwarranted surrender of an appointed prosecuting team. Keep in mind, his next "crop" of victims will be born in just 2-5 years from now based on his release date assuming he doesn't get out early. As far as self educating yourself with actual fact... Anything is possible.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 24, 2015 05:54PM

Benton has run a brief story, with a flattering (relatively speaking), four year old photo of Gardner:

http://fcnp.com/2015/09/24/michael-gardner-pleads-guilty-in-2-child-abuse-cases/

Hopefully we will learn more in the next day or so, though surely not in the News-Press.

Presumably he took the plea to spare Robin from an indictment, to spare his niece from testifying, and to avoid the retrial on the 2011 charges.

If the Court has ordered protection for Robin I have to assume she has received threats. What did she know, when did she know it, and what steps did she take to obstruct justice? Given that she has received immunity we may never know the answers to such questions, but it's hard for me to accept she ever really believed him.

So much anguish could have been avoided had he pled guilty four years ago. The way that he and Robin fought this as long and as hard as they did seems to almost qualify as a separate crime.

Just a few years ago the Gardners were FC's power couple, the city's version of Bill and Hill, though with the roles reversed. She was the shmoozing politician and he was the bullying enforcer. Now both have been brought lower than they ever could have imagined.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: September 24, 2015 06:12PM

Would have been very easy to prosecute her and deservedly so. The prosecution and U.S. Atty offered additional protections to her(for various crimes), NOT because she was ever in any kind of danger. Btw, his niece had already testified and he realized what was happening to him. That's also why this surrender by the prosecution is so contradictory to any semblance of justice.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 24, 2015 06:35PM

The City of Falls Church issued the following release a few minutes ago:


Gardner Pleads Guilty, to Serve 20 Years

Thursday, September 24, 2015 -- Michael A. Gardner, 51, entered guilty pleas today to one count of object sexual penetration and four counts of aggravated sexual battery. Gardner was sentenced to 40 years, 20 of those suspended and supervised probation for life. Once released, he will be required to register as a Sex Offender and will not be permitted to unsupervised contact with minors, the victims, or their families.

The plea agreement was reached on the second day of a trial for sexually assaulting his niece when she was 12. A retrial was set to begin in November for Gardner’s sexual assault of two 10 year old girls at his daughter’s slumber party; that trial is negated with the guilty pleas.

Alejandra Rueda and Nicole Wittmann of the Commonwealth Attorney's Office received the agreement today during the trial. “We are pleased that the victims have closure and finality,” said Wittmann. “I’m confident that other children will be protected based on this result.”

"I am very proud of all of stakeholders in the Criminal Justice System particularly the victims in this case" said City of Falls Church Police Chief Mary Gavin. "The four little girls displayed tremendous courage and strength. The Falls Church Police Department is grateful to all mutual aid law enforcement partners from Federal, State and Local organizations. Det. Sonya Richardson, the lead investigator, as well as peer detectives and supervisors throughout the past four years worked diligently and often to exhaustion to ensure a comprehensive and thorough investigation. The Loudoun County Commonwealth Attorney’s Nicole Wittmann and Alexandra Rueda worked tirelessly to ensure justice was served for the four victims, their families and the entire community."

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Questioning Questioner ()
Date: September 24, 2015 07:07PM

Hmm, this trial takes place just as the Pope arrives...a coincidence or the occasion for some back door Vatican deals? Anything is possible with these liberal pedofags...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: my take my take ()
Date: September 24, 2015 07:37PM

Ben Dover - I understand your sentiments. This plea deal, however, makes sense. 20 years is long period of time (I understand his obtaining credit for time served), and he will be in his late 60's whe he gets out. Finding a place to live then will be difficult, getting by will be difficult, staying clean on probation will be difficult, his ability to make a living as a poltical gadfly will be eclipsed, and this is all assuming that an effete, progressive self centered sex offender with a lifetime spent telling others what to do (e.g. read his Blue Weeds rants) will escape with any semblance of health at the end of his prison term.

My guess is - I don't know - that the afflicted families thought this was a good outcome too under the circumstances. If so, that is an important factor for the prosecutors.

I do agree with you that it was unfortunate that the niece had to testify (if this is the case). But Robin Gardner obtained immunity for a reason, and the writing was likely on the wall that their children (innocent victims really) could soon be without two parents. A plea deal again makes sense. Robin Gardner's protection likely has to do with the prisoner or prisoners who were involved in the alleged death threat imbroglio.

What I am curious about is the core group of people who defended this guy.
Query whether they will come on FFX Underground and now give their perspective? I wouldn't bet on it. But I would welcome it. Recall when death penalty recipient Roger Keith Coleman had DNA evidence examined years after his death (in Virginia) in an effort to exonerate him. The opposite happened - it confirmed his guilt beyond a molecule of any doubt, and while many of his supporters shied away from commenting - a minister (James McCloskey) who supported him did the stand-up thing and confessed he was fooled and indeed naive and unrealistic. With tragic situations, doing a stand-up thing helps heal.

I also got the vibe that many here were giving grief to Wingnut because he was bluntly stating a case against a progressive politico, and his views just did not want to be read by people sharing progressive political views. Query whether anyone will admit to this now? (And I find it hard to believe anyone who reads this board was truly offended by his term pedofag - really, with the stuff that gets posted on here?)

Bravo to the young women who testified in the prior case and in this case. What they did wasn't easy. Now these are stand-up persons, and I hope that the develop into independent, strong and empowered young people (and I hope that for the Gardner kids as well - young people can recover and do well even with flawed parents).

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: September 24, 2015 07:44PM

Aaaahhhhhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! Thank you very much! I needed a good laugh tonight.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: September 24, 2015 08:11PM

Dearest who the fuck ever, tell me... which political party wants their kids assaulted??? NIETHER! That has nothing to do with this. Let's think, a wealthy parolee that has already attempted to flee jurisdiction...hhmmm. Did you know that it's illegal to run red lights or exceed the posted speed limit? People do this everyday in case you were unaware. By their own admission on the news tonight, because the case where his niece DID testify was going so well and his wife could face serious charges on multiple levels, prompted him to offer this plea. Please, don't ever pretend to have these victims best interest at heart. You sound as phony as the prosecutors!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 24, 2015 09:08PM

Benton has taken another crack at the story. Unlike the televison stations, he doesn't mention Gardner was a Democrat.

http://fcnp.com/2015/09/24/michael-gardner-pleads-guilty-in-2-child-abuse-cases-2/

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 24, 2015 09:51PM

my take my take Wrote:
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> I do agree with you that it was unfortunate that
> the niece had to testify (if this is the case).
> But Robin Gardner obtained immunity for a reason,
> and the writing was likely on the wall that their
> children (innocent victims really) could soon be
> without two parents. A plea deal again makes
> sense. Robin Gardner's protection likely has to
> do with the prisoner or prisoners who were
> involved in the alleged death threat imbroglio.

I have mixed feelings about this. Having lost one parent it would be very hard for the Gardner twins to lose the other one. However, Robin probably should have been charged at the very least with obstruction of justice. I hope she understands that she has been treated very leniently. If nothing else she should resign from the vestry of Falls Church Episcopal. She has no business serving the Church in any capacity.


> What I am curious about is the core group of
> people who defended this guy.
> Query whether they will come on FFX Underground
> and now give their perspective? I wouldn't bet on
> it. But I would welcome it. Recall when death
> penalty recipient Roger Keith Coleman had DNA
> evidence examined years after his death (in
> Virginia) in an effort to exonerate him. The
> opposite happened - it confirmed his guilt beyond
> a molecule of any doubt, and while many of his
> supporters shied away from commenting - a minister
> (James McCloskey) who supported him did the
> stand-up thing and confessed he was fooled and
> indeed naive and unrealistic. With tragic
> situations, doing a stand-up thing helps heal.

I remember the Coleman case very well. Time Magazine put him on the cover. The minister did the honorable thing when he acknowledged his error. Unfortunately I don't expect any of Gardner's legion of defenders to be contrite. I'll be shocked if any of them come forward, here or elsewhere. Sociopaths are clever and often fool people, but there was a point in this case (fairly early on) when Gardner's supporters should have seen him for what he was.


> Bravo to the young women who testified in the
> prior case and in this case. What they did
> wasn't easy. Now these are stand-up persons, and
> I hope that the develop into independent, strong
> and empowered young people (and I hope that for
> the Gardner kids as well - young people can
> recover and do well even with flawed parents).

Amen

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Date: September 25, 2015 08:15AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: September 25, 2015 10:07AM

This president grew up with almost no parents. Now he has lied, cheated and stole his way into most everything in his life so there may be merit to that argument. However, this is about two attys that quit on these girls after saying many times over many years that they would never do that! These girls were told to take this "deal" or he'd likely go free which scared the hell out of them. That's just wrong if not morally bankrupt. Case closed? Fuck you! Get some facts and come back because it's no fun having a discussion with a complete idiot. I'll be waiting:)

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 25, 2015 11:33AM

Today I find the WaPo has completely ignored the story. Nothing in print and I can't find anything online.

For all my criticism of Nick Benton he at least has run something on the FCNP website, though I doubt he'll place it on the front page next Thursday.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Melancholy Sadness ()
Date: September 25, 2015 11:37AM

I plan on going to GordonBlvd's grave this afternoon. She was another victim of Gardner.

I'll tell her that her work is done, and she can rest now.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Old Man in FC ()
Date: September 25, 2015 02:40PM

It ain't over till it's over. - Yogi Berra, America's philosopher king.

Well, for some folks, it still ain't over:

http://fcnp.com/2015/09/25/michael-gardners-sister-insists-on-his-innocence/

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: unbelievable ()
Date: September 25, 2015 02:51PM

The Old Man in FC Wrote:
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> It ain't over till it's over. - Yogi Berra,
> America's philosopher king.
>
> Well, for some folks, it still ain't over:
>
> http://fcnp.com/2015/09/25/michael-gardners-sister
> -insists-on-his-innocence/


What a sick bitch.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: September 25, 2015 02:55PM

In regards to the misconduct hearing for Whitman and rueda, I'd like to know if rueda lied to the court, or to the families for 13 months never saying that MS-13 gang leader was the "Real and serious threat" to the kids involved in the murder for hire plot, not the joker they tried to use. They both used this time to protect themselves and their families and their homes against a threat that "didn't exist", while leaving the kids ACTUALLY involved with little or no protection.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dovet ()
Date: September 25, 2015 03:05PM

Thanks for that link, I think. I agree, hopefully she is barren and can't pass on her inbred fucked up gene pool! But if so, there's a lot of sick fuckers out there just like her brother that may bring this back to her doorstep. Karma is an unforgiving bitch! Just like her and his guilty ass cunt of a wife.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ben Dover ()
Date: September 25, 2015 03:51PM

OH, and if you noticed, she made reference to the fact that her brother did not do a full alucution as required but waived by Wittman and rueda. This just gets worse and worse.... These two have been playing both ends against the middle for years now. End game? One is hoping for a promotion, one is hoping for a judgeship. Neither of which is deserved and contrary to the betterment of our community. If the REAL truth came out, it would be extremely difficult to see how they could keep their jobs never mind get a taxpayer funded promotion.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Do they have ky in prision. ()
Date: September 25, 2015 11:20PM

Ben Dover, just think about how much ben dovering Gardner will be doing for the next 17 years and maybe that will cheer you up. You know darn good and well he won't get time off for good behavior. And more than likely if he makes it through, He won't be out for long before he violates his parole and has to serve the remaining 20 years.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Parole Officer ()
Date: September 25, 2015 11:59PM

So when will he be eligible for parole or does that have to be determined at a later date?

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