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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: March 24, 2012 01:13AM

In addition to the 3/22 Falls Church New Press article re: yesterday's hearing, check out http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/198395/188/ONLY-ON-9-Parents-Sex-Abuse-Case-Speak-Out-.

Thank you WUSA9 and Peggy Fox for providing a counterpoint to local Falls Church "news" reporting and for bringing a spotlight to this case. In a small community like Falls Church, one-sided reporting can have a devastating impact on the parties not engaging the press. In such a sensitive (sex crime) and politically-charged situation, daily life can be impossibly difficult since so many people know the parties involved. There is enormous strain on victims, their families, and even the family of the defendant, as misinformation starts to become fact with everyone from school administrators to the parents of victims' friends, and character assassination of minor children and their parents is viewed as acceptable. This has been going on for too long; the Commonwealth cannot comment publicly regarding an ongoing prosecution, and the victims' parents have been asked not to speak to the press. The willingness of Ms. Fox to shed much-needed light on the local news reporting issue and some of the basic facts in this case is much appreciated. One can only hope that the defense's tactics are as distasteful to the jury as they are to some of the rest of us.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: March 24, 2012 01:18AM

In addition to 3/22 Falls Church New Press article(s) on yesterday's hearing, see also http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/198395/188/ONLY-ON-9-Parents-Sex-Abuse-Case-Speak-Out-

Thank you WUSA9 and Peggy Fox for providing a counterpoint to local Falls Church "news" reporting and for bringing a spotlight to this case. In a small community like Falls Church, one-sided reporting can have a devastating impact on the parties not engaging the press. In such a sensitive (sex crime) and politically-charged situation, daily life can be impossibly difficult since so many people know the parties involved. There is enormous strain on victims, their families, and even the family of the defendant, as misinformation starts to become fact with everyone from school administrators to the parents of victims' friends, and character assassination of minor children and their parents is viewed as acceptable. This has been going on for too long; since the Commonwealth cannot comment publicly regarding an ongoing prosecution, and the families of the victims have been asked to sit tight, the willingness of Ms Fox to shed much-needed light on this issue and this case is much appreciated.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: puthisballsonagasstove ()
Date: March 29, 2012 12:33PM

ARLINGTON COUNTY, Va. (WUSA) - Arlington County Circuit Court has released copies of the extensive DNA report in the molestation case against Michael Gardner. Gardner is a well-known Falls Church political activist who is married to city council member and former mayor Robin Gardner.

The DNA report, compiled by Cybergenetics of Pittsburgh, PA, ompares DNA profiles from Michael Gardner and from two pieces of clothing from two of the three alleged victims. The clothes are underpants from one girl and pajama pants from the other girl.

The report finds that a match between the underpants and Michael Gardner is "20.7 quadrillion times more probable than a coincidental match to an unrelated Caucasian person."

Local DNA expert Thomas McClintock with DNA Diagnostics Inc., in Dunkirk, Md., explained that one in 20.7 quadrillion means "Gardner is the only person with that DNA on the planet" since the earth's population is only 7 billion.

The report also finds that a match between the pajama pants and Michael Gardner "is 3.86 thousand times more probable than a coincidental match to an unrelated Caucasian person."

There is other DNA evidence that could help the defense. Gardner was found not to be a match to a few sperm found on the pajama pants. The prosecution is filing a motion to exclude that evidence saying that it's unrelated to the case. No semen was found on any of the girls.

A study in the Canadian Society of Forensic Science found that it's likely for sperm to be transferred from one clothing item to another in the washing machine. The article is cited in the U.S. Department of Justice's National Criminal Justice Reference Service. That may be the prosecution's explanation of the DNA evidence if it's allowed.

MORE: http://wusa9.com/news/article/198395/373/DNA-Report-Released-In-Falls-Church-Case-Parents-Speak-Out

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: less than a week away ()
Date: April 18, 2012 10:06AM

Trial starts on Monday. Guilty or Not Guilty?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Judge Wopner ()
Date: April 18, 2012 11:42AM

less than a week away Wrote:
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 19, 2012 08:34AM

"20.7 quadrillion times more probable than a coincidental match to an unrelated Caucasian person."


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Guilty.


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Trial Starts Today ()
Date: April 24, 2012 10:45AM


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Tar Heel ()
Date: April 24, 2012 10:59AM

Interesting tidbit from the article that may shed light on what argument the defense might make:

"Before jury selection began, defense attorney Peter Greenspun requested of Judge Benjamin Kendrick that the jury be taken on a bus trip to the Gardner's home to see where the alleged crimes happened. Greenspun argued that the basement, scene of the second incident, is so dark, it's hard to believe the girls could have actually seen Gardner."

Are they going to allege a one armed mand broke into the home and committed the crimes?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: castratehimwithachainsaw ()
Date: April 24, 2012 02:29PM

A 10-year-old girl walked into an Arlington County courtroom Tuesday holding a small toy and plastic sunglasses and wearing pink glitter shoes. The girl was the first witness called by prosecutors in the child sex case against well-known Falls Church community activist Michael Gardner.

She's one of three girls who accused him of sexually molesting them last summer during sleepovers at the Gardner's home. Gardner's wife is Falls Church city councilwoman and former mayor Robin Gardner.

The prosecution's first witness had to be boosted up in her seat as she took the witness stand. She put on pink, sparkly sunglasses as she settled in. when prosecutor Nicole Wittman asked, "Why are you wearing those?" the fifth-grader replied, "Because I'm a little nervous."

But the little girl confidently stood and pointed to Michael Gardner when she was asked to identify the man who allegedly "touched her girl parts" in the early morning hours of June 16, as she and five other girls attended a birthday slumber party for the Gardner's daughter.

The child testified the girls were sleeping in the basement when in the early morning hours she awakened as someone began unzipping her Sleeping Beauty sleeping bag. She testified that although it was dark, "I looked up to see who it was and it was Mr. Gardner."

She then described how Gardner allegedly reached beneath her pajamas and began touching her private parts.

Prosecutor Wittman asked, "What did you do?"

"I wasn't sure what to do so I acted like I was asleep," she replied.

The girl said Gardner then moved onto to another child, but came back to her a second time and touched her again. The 10-year-old said that the next morning, as the children played hide and seek, she confided to another girl that "her girl parts hurt." Later, after he mother picked up her, she told her the same thing. Police were called and the child was taken to the hospital for a sexual assault examination.

"Do you remember what happened at the hospital," asked Wittman. "No," replied the little girl.

Gardner is represented by prominent defense attorneys Peter Greenspun and Jonathan Shapiro. They will conduct their cross-examination Tuesday afternoon. Gardner faces four sex abuse charges.

In opening statements, prosecutor Alex Amato told jurors, "It's almost unimaginable except that it's true." She told jurors that along with witness testimony, DNA evidence will tie Gardner to the crimes.

But Gardner's defense team said he's innocent, imploring jurors to keep an open mind as they listen to testimony.

Said Greeenspun, "This is one of the most miserable experiences you'll ever have ... We all have to get over the horrible part of it," and listen to the evidence.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 24, 2012 02:51PM

oh Jesus...........

little girl even having to even know that.......

I'm assuming there are like two to five Falls Church officers standing around mom and dad so they dont jump pedobear in the courtroom, right?

How the hell does that thought even go thru yr mind - to even get to the point that you'd even open the door into those kids's room? My head actually physically hurts even trying to process that series of events that this dude did...........or "allegedly" did if you still seriously think that this girl is lying.



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 24, 2012 07:15PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Trail - Day 2 ()
Date: April 25, 2012 04:24PM

This creep is getting sent away for a long time.

For a second day, the prosecution in the Michael Gardner sexual battery trial called a young witness to the stand to testify.

The 11-year-old witness said she was at the June 2011 slumber party for Gardner’s daughter and alleges she was touched in a sexual manner. The girl said she was asleep in the basement of Gardner’s home when, in the wee hours on June 19, she says Gardner fixed the comforter covering her, which awakened her. The girl testified that she thanked the man and she went back to sleep.

The girl alleged that Gardner returned to the basement, touched her vagina outside her pajamas then retreated upstairs before repeating the act a second time. The girl said Gardner then returned a third time to touch her but she rolled over and he fled to the opposite side of the room. She said he then returned a fourth time and allegedly touched her under her pajamas.

She said she was awake through all four of the alleged incidents, but remained frozen in confusion. During the fourth incident, she said she acted like she was awake and Gardner fled the basement.

“I didn’t want him touching me,” she said from the stand.

The girl said she tried calling out to Gardner’s daughter in whispers only to have the girl lift her head shortly and then she went back to sleep.

The next day the girl said she and the first witness talked. The first witness to testify in the case, who also alleges she was touched, asked if there was anything wrong with her private parts as well?

“I told her yes and it was Mr. Gardner who did it,” the girl said during her testimony Wednesday.

When her father picked her up from the Gardner’s home, the girl said she told her father who was instantly angered and drove the girl home to her mother before taking her to an already scheduled doctor’s appointment. The girl said she was examined and then taken to meet with City of Falls Church police to give a statement to detectives.

Gardner is accused of touching two girls in a sexual manner during a birthday sleepover for his daughter. They were 9 and 10 years old at the time. A third alleged victim, who was 10 years old at the time, has accused Gardner of touching her in a sexual manner in a separate incident. The third girl testified in July about the separate incident, which allegedly happened June 16.

Gardner's children and wife Robin Gardner are expected to take the stand during the trial. Robin Gardner is a current Falls Church councilwoman and former mayor of the city.

Gardner is out on a $50,000 bond.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 26, 2012 07:02PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: April 26, 2012 11:33PM

Ugly situation all around ... heard the defendant almost cried in the courtroom when Mr. Perlin's testimony re: the DNA statistics was allowed. Also heard Mr. Greenspun's drug dealing son (sorry - "alleged") was working for the defense, spying on victim's parents in the courtroom. Nice.

It's interesting how many people are supporting Robin Gardner, who left a bunch of little kids in a dark basement with no phone while she slept 2 floors above them. I doubt there was an opening to tell her what her husband did over eggs and waffles the next morning.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Trial - Day 3 ()
Date: April 26, 2012 11:38PM

DNA Expert Testifies in Gardner Molestation Trial
Scientist says Gardner's DNA matches samples taken from clothing worn by two young accusersBy Julie Carey | Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 | Updated 10:34 PM EDT

Prosecutors turned to a DNA expert as one of their final witnesses in their child sex abuse case against Michael Gardner on Thursday.

Gardner is a well-known Falls Church community and political activist whose wife is a councilwoman and former mayor of that city. He's accused of molesting three of his daughters' friends last June, one at a sleepover and two at a birthday slumber party the following night.

Dr. Mark Perlin, the chief scientist at the Pittsburgh-based Cybergenetics, analyzed DNA samples processed by the Virginia Department of Forensic Science. Using a highly technical presentation, he showed the jury how he matched Michael Gardner's DNA to DNA samples taken from clothing worn by two of the young accusers.

With DNA taken from one girl's underwear, Perlin found a match to Gardner is 20.7 quadrillion times more likely than a coincidental match to an unrelated Caucasian.

And with DNA taken from another child's pajamas, he found a match to Gardner is 3,000 times more probable than a match to an unrelated Caucasian.

Prosecutors stopped short of asking if those findings mean no one but Gardner's could be the source of the DNA.

In cross-examination, defense attorney Peter Greenspun underscored the fact that Perlin was not asked to analyze another, unknown DNA profile that was also found on some of the girls' clothing. The state crime lab only sent samples from the two alleged victims and Gardner.

The prosecution also called its final witness, the last of the three alleged victims to testify. The 10-year-old girl said Gardner fondled her when she slept over with his daughter.

She said the two were sleeping on the bedroom floor when Gardner's daughter called for her father during a thunderstorm. The girl said that on a second visit to the bedroom, Gardner lay down between the two girls and repeatedly touched her stomach, chest and genitals.

In testimony that sometimes sounded rehearsed, the girl told prosecutor Nicole Wittman, "He sexually assaulted me."

The child said Gardner "asked me if it felt good and I told him, 'no'". After that, she said, he left the room.

She said she didn't tell her parents the next day because she was "scared and embarrassed." She also returned to the Gardner home the next night for the slumber party.

During a long cross-examination, Gardner's defense lawyers pointed out the girl didn't mention the incident until she became aware of the police investigation into the slumber party. It wasn't until the end of an interview with a Falls Church police detective five days after the sleepover that she reported being molested.

Asked Greenspun: "You were proud of yourself for helping police?"

"Yes," replied the 5th grader.

"You wanted to be included in what police were doing with the other girls?" he asked.

Again, the answer was "yes," Greenspun also spotlighted many inconsistencies in the way the girl has described what happened. She had testified that Gardner "sneaked his hand" beneath her pajamas to touch her.

But Greenspun challenged that, asking, "You were under the covers, weren't you?" The girl said yes.

Defense attorneys will begin calling their first witnesses tomorrow. They had also asked the judge for permission to take the jury to the Gardner's basement where the slumber party occurred during the night, so they could see the dark conditions for themselves. The judge rejected their request.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Trial - Day 3 ()
Date: April 26, 2012 11:43PM

Sounds like this motion and 9 others were denied.

Greenspun Wants Expert’s Testimony Stricken
Expert testified in Gardner trial that the defendant’s DNA was present on tested sample.

By Andre L. Taylor Email the author 3:51 pm

The defense attorney in the sexual battery trial of Michael Gardner has asked that an expert's testimony be stricken.

Gardner's attorney Peter Greenspun made the request after Dr. Mark Perlin told the court that computerized data was first sent to Richmond before reaching his Pittsburgh office.

The data, results from tests performed on clothing worn by two alleged minor victims in the case, originated from the Virginia Department of Forensic Science's office in Manassas.

Perlin, chief scientist for the Pittsburgh-based Cybergenetics, testified that electronic data sent to his office was put through further computer testing that showed Michael Gardner's DNA represented 25 percent of a DNA mixture found in the underwear of one of his accusers. The girl's DNA matched the other 75 percent, Perlin said. Perlin said the DNA found on the second girl's pajama pants is 3,000 times more likely to belong to Gardner than anyone else.

Greenspun said he has an issue with the chain of command in the delivery of the data since it was not sent directly to Perlin from Kelly Loynes. Loynes, who testified Wednesday, is with the Virginia Department of Forensic Science.

Gardner is accused of touching the two girls in a sexual manner during the sleepover. They were 9 and 10 years old at the time. A third alleged victim, who was 10 years old at the time, has accused Gardner of touching her in a sexual manner in a separate incident. The third girl testified in July about the separate incident, which allegedly happened June 16.

Gardner's children and wife Robin Gardner are expected to take the stand during the trial. Robin Gardner is a current Falls Church councilwoman and former mayor of the city.

Gardner has posted $50,000 bond.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 27, 2012 09:04AM

geez...........it only costs 5k for him?

I guess he's not a flight risk and nobody cares in the city cares if he suicides, eh?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: April 27, 2012 10:16AM

Another interesting link that illustrates the problem with the Falls Church City News Press.

http://sea.hxr.us/2012/04/fcnp-on-michael-gardner.html?showComment=1335535835043#c2896462627450460333

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 27, 2012 10:28AM

YO!!! THAT IS SOME FUCKED UP SHIT!!!!

cause when I saw the post on that article yesterday, I was like "WHOA, so maybe he's innocent!?!" until I started reading the story. And I had to do a cpl doubletakes, cause I couldnt make sense of what the DNA expert was saying in comparison to the headline of the paper............so it's kinda like the paper is like actively trying to make ppl think someone else is guilty to get some chi-mo free!?!?!

And that's kinda like telling the kid "fuck you, little girl you should have kept yr mouth shut and we dont care about you"......the kid's own city paper. Just wow........................

shit, I better stop thinking about this or I'm gonna end up down at that paper's office before the end of the day with a baseball bat..............just let the ppl of Falls Church handle this, Gordon...................

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: FCNP Critic ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:46PM

Sorry, Gordon. You probably shouldn't look too closely at their past articles then. The amount of mis-information and out-and-out lies is just gross! I thought you were supposed to have at least some objectivity to be a "News" Press.

What sucks is that the families and Commonwealth weren't allowed to correct any untrue or misleading statements because of the ongoing investigation and upcoming trial. Nice of them to deliver it to their homes free of charge, too.

Don't know how these people sleep at night -- hopefully in a dark basement.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Yeah, he guilty ()
Date: April 27, 2012 04:18PM

The delay in the search warrant execution and the fact they only found the wife's computer leads me to believe this sicko had some seriously disgusting shit on his computer and they 86ed it before the warrant was served. They had plenty of time and notice to do it.


Sonia Richardson of the Falls Church Police Department delayed three weeks in executing a search warrant of Michael Gardner’s home last summer after being told of “a possible conflict of interest,” she told an Arlington Circuit Court today.

The statement came as Gardner’s lawyers began presenting their defense of the Falls Church resident on four felony charges of aggravated sexual battery and penetration against three young girls who visited the home last June 16-18.

Asked by Gardner’s attorney, Peter Greenspun, who had ordered her to delay, Richardson responded that it came from a superior.

“She told me to hold up,“ Richardson said.

Richardson added that she was not told to stop investigating the case or not to send evidence for forensic testing.

Just after calling the defendant’s wife, Falls Church City Council member Robin Gardner, to the witness stand, defense attorney Peter Greenspun abruptly shifted course and called Richardson to testify. Robin Gardner is expected to appear as a defense witness in court this afternoon, and the couple’s twin children also appear on the defense’s witness list.

An eight-year employee of the Falls Church Police Department, Richardson testified that more than three weeks passed between Gardner’s arrest on June 22 and her seeking and obtaining a search warrant for the home on July 14, a delay she first explained as attributable to “logistics and manpower” matters.

Pressed further, Richardson stated that she delayed because “I hadn’t spoken to all the witnesses yet” and “because of the nature of the case, [its] being high profile, and [because] I wanted to represent everybody correctly.”

Richardson testified to finding no pornographic material in the laptop, thumb drive or cellular telephone that were among the four or five items she seized from the home last July. Greenspun had sought to establish that child molesters typically possess such material.

Greenspun’s first defense witness, Falls Church architect Jack Wilbern, testified earlier in the morning that he came to the home last Sunday to measure the basement and bedroom where the alleged attacks occurred and that he later produced scale drawings of them. He said that he had not charged Gardner for his measurements but hadn’t decided whether to charge for the drawings, which he said took several hours to complete. The drawings were displayed in court this morning.

In cross-examining Richardson, prosecutor Nicole Wittmann suggested the oddity of Robin Gardner’s laptop – the one seized by police – being the only computer found in the home, given, Wittman said, that Michael Gardner did business in the software industry and often traveled to Seattle on long business trips.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ewww ()
Date: April 27, 2012 06:07PM

Wow - I am just finding out about this???!
!went to my Senior Prom with this guy. Back then - he was really cute, seemed nice. Fortunately for me we never had a "close" relationship. I am going to take a 5 hour shower. Just gross.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 27, 2012 06:08PM

wow............"a superior". Chief o' the Falls Church PoPo says in court "hey little girl......yeah, maybe guys all over the world will jack off on cell phone video of Gardner fingering you, maybe not. It wasnt really that important to find out cause my boss said hold up on it........."


Hey, Richardson - next time some guy is trying to fuck a little girl in yr town, why dont you grow a pair and tell whoever's telling you to "hold up"to suck the shit out yr ass.

but Gordon........we didnt have enough ppl to think about getting pedo-bear's computer. THought never crossed our mind................Really? Really?

I mean, I know you "wanted to represent everybody correctly" ..........so maybe next time you will FUCKING THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE LITTLE GIRL CANT PROTECT HERSELF AS WELL AS SOME TOWN POLITICIAN, SO YOU PAY MORE ATTENTION TO HER!!!!!!

SIGNED,
GODD*MNED ASHAMED OF THE FALLS CHURCH POLICE DEPARTMENT!!

edit - later on, I find out more so kinda disregard this :)



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Trial - Day 4 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 10:03PM

Wife, Kids Testify in Gardner Sex Abuse Trial
Michael Gardner accused of molesting three of his daughter's friends during sleepoversBy Julie Carey | Friday, Apr 27, 2012 | Updated 8:51 PM EDT

Michael Gardner's wife and twin 10-year-olds all testified in his defense today as the Falls Church community and political activist fights child molestation charges.

Gardner is accused of sexually molesting three of his daughter's friends during two sleepovers in 2011.

Robin Gardner has stood by her husband since his June 22 arrest. The Falls Church city councilwoman and former mayor offered testimony that sometimes contradicted her husband's young accusers.

One child, now 10 years old, says Michael Gardner fondled her for about 45 minutes during a sleepover, as she lay next to his daughter on her bedroom floor. She says Gardner came to the room when his daughter was frightened by a thunderstorm and called out for her father.

But Robin Gardner says she was awake in her bedroom, right across the hall, when her husband went in to comfort the girls. She says both bedroom doors were open and that he returned in about 15 minutes.

The next night during a birthday slumber party in the basement, two girls say Michael Gardner came down several times during the early morning hours and molested them.

But Robin Gardner says he husband had been sick and turned in early that night. Describing herself as a light sleeper, she says she doesn't remember him stirring until the next morning.

Asked defense attorney Peter Greenspun, "From your observation, was there any indication the girls were upset or emotional?"

"No," she replied.

In cross examination, prosecutor Alex Amato suggested that Robin Gardner had tried to protect her husband from the beginning and failed to cooperate with police. She asked about the night a Falls Church police sergeant arrived at the Gardner home to tell them about the charges.

Asked prosecutor Amato, "Didn't you almost fall over?"

"I was upset; I don't faint," Robin Gardner said.

"Did they have to hold you up?" he asked.

"I was shaking due to the news,"she said.

"Isn't it true that as you were speaking to the sergeant, you husband emerged and told you to stop speaking?" he asked.

Gardner said she didn't recall.

The Gardners' twins also testified. Their son was not home during either alleged incident. Their daughter testified that she remembers her father laying beside her in her room during the thunderstorm, not between the two girls as the accuser testified.

She also says she does not remember anyone coming into the basement during the sleepover or waking during the night.

One of the young accusers says she called out to the Gardner's daughter after she was assaulted and recalls her waking briefly.

Defense testimony continues on Monday.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Anonymous Fairfax ()
Date: April 27, 2012 10:11PM

Hmmm ... stonewalling, covering-up, and "I don't recall." Classic politician, hopefully her swan song. The people of Falls Church should demand her resignation and run the FC News Press out of town. Is it wrong to be repulsed by these people?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ditto ()
Date: April 27, 2012 10:16PM

Yeah, her husband was sick alright. Still is, since research indicates sexual predators can't be cured. Maybe VA will select a correctional facility close by so she doesn't have to drive too far to visit. Shame on her, even if she is in denial.

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Rwake the fuck up city of falls chruch
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 28, 2012 07:49AM

Good Morning Falls Church here's your reality breakfast: you've elected a woman who gonna tell you to your face your kids are lying about being sex assaulted, and that she's more in tune with the chi-mo's THAN YOUR OWN FUCKING CHILDREN!!

Robin Gardner has stood by her husband since his June 22 arrest. The Falls Church city councilwoman and former mayor offered testimony that sometimes contradicted her husband's young accusers.

then there's this bullshit:

But Robin Gardner says she was awake in her bedroom, right across the hall, when her husband went in to comfort the girls. She says both bedroom doors were open and that he returned in about 15 minutes.

translation: Falls Church Councilwoman Robin Gardener is cool with lying in bed while she knows her husband is spending over 10-some minutes in their daughter's room during a girls sleepover. And that's just coming form her b.s testimony cause you know it was longer, since she's been covering up for Dateline bait thru all this, and prolly even before...... FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS KIDS WHO HAVE BEEN NEAR THIS GUY, YOU BETTER RECOGNIZE THAT THIS AINT THE FIRST TIME, AND EVEN YOUR OWN KIDS MAY NOT EVEN KNOW SUBTLE CRAP HAS BEEN HAPPENING TO THEM OVER THE YEARS

is there any way she can be kicked off the council for this?



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: hmm.. ()
Date: April 28, 2012 06:38PM

Concerned for the Kids Wrote:
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> Ugly situation all around ... heard the defendant
> almost cried in the courtroom when Mr. Perlin's
> testimony re: the DNA statistics was allowed.
> Also heard Mr. Greenspun's drug dealing son (sorry
> - "alleged") was working for the defense, spying
> on victim's parents in the courtroom. Nice.
>
> It's interesting how many people are supporting
> Robin Gardner, who left a bunch of little kids in
> a dark basement with no phone while she slept 2
> floors above them. I doubt there was an opening
> to tell her what her husband did over eggs and
> waffles the next morning.

I know his son works for his firm.. so it would make sense that he is working for the defense, as that is his job. I'm curious as to what "spying on the victims' parents" means, though. And how you know about this. Please explain.. was he getting information from them?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: April 30, 2012 12:51PM

Good to know his son works for his firm. There are numerous people in the courtroom every day that have noticed his seating directly behind the parents throughout the trial. Don't know what they're looking for, but they reportedly have someone watching the hall outside the courtroom as well. I don't know -- is this a common tactic for these types of trials?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Bruce Variety ()
Date: April 30, 2012 04:58PM

But then there is still the DNA questions. How did his get on the girls underwear? So wierd.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47233904/ns/local_news-washington_dc/#.T577wVJQAtU

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Office Worker ()
Date: April 30, 2012 05:11PM

He looks like Dwight Schrute.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: head scratcher ()
Date: April 30, 2012 05:28PM

Bruce Variety Wrote:
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> But then there is still the DNA questions. How did
> his get on the girls underwear? So wierd.
>
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47233904/ns/local_news
> -washington_dc/#.T577wVJQAtU

Just as importantly, IMHO, is why was there =sperm= (not just "DNA" which we have yet to find came from what part of the defendant - no one has yet said it was semen/sperm) on that same underwear that was not his and why did the police discount it as irrelevant?

Frankly, something smells about this case from what little I've read. It looks to me like the key witnesses were "contaminated", either by conversations with their friends, with their parents, or with the the police themselves. From what I've read (very little, admittedly - only this thread and a couple links) there is no way I'd say "beyond a reasonable doubt" at this point in time.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Court Watcher ()
Date: April 30, 2012 06:36PM

Lots of information has not made it to press accounts, but the majority has been provided to the jury. The "beyond a reasonable doubt" judgment will be made by the jurors. Let's wait to see what those with the most informed perspective have to say.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Will be over soon. ()
Date: April 30, 2012 07:04PM

As to why the sperm was irrelevant.

From WUSA9:

The DNA report also found sperm on one of the girl's pajama pants. The sperm is not Gardner's but the girl's father's. No semen was found, and there is no allegation of abuse by the father. A previous judge ruled the defense cannot allege any sexual abuse by that father.

But, how the sperm got there may be an important question during the trial. The father of that girl says a DNA expert has and will explain for the jury that if clothes soiled with semen are washed with other clothes, while the semen may wash away, dozens if not hundreds of microscopic sperm are distributed in the wash and cling to all the clothes. "It's in the wash, that's all it is," he said. A Canadian study on the matter is referenced in the NCJRS.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: hmm.. ()
Date: April 30, 2012 09:22PM

Concerned for the Kids Wrote:
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> Good to know his son works for his firm. There
> are numerous people in the courtroom every day
> that have noticed his seating directly behind the
> parents throughout the trial. Don't know what
> they're looking for, but they reportedly have
> someone watching the hall outside the courtroom as
> well. I don't know -- is this a common tactic for
> these types of trials?


in all honesty i was in the courtroom and witnessed this. i saw him behind the parents, and i saw the parents make some sort of comment to him, not sure what it was. it looked like he introduced himself to them, but again, i could not hear. the prosecutor said something to him after recess and he moved with no issue, and he has not been near them once since. I have been there every day watching. ive actually talked to him a couple of times, seems like a nice kid, but our conversations were short. i dont think there is any tactic, i think this is just an example of people grasping for straws.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: johnee ()
Date: April 30, 2012 09:24PM

Court Watcher Wrote:
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> Lots of information has not made it to press
> accounts, but the majority has been provided to
> the jury. The "beyond a reasonable doubt"
> judgment will be made by the jurors. Let's wait
> to see what those with the most informed
> perspective have to say.

im assuming you have been in the courtroom, what do YOU think. has the defense shown reasonable doubt?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: hmm.. ()
Date: April 30, 2012 10:54PM

johnee Wrote:
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> Court Watcher Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lots of information has not made it to press
> > accounts, but the majority has been provided to
> > the jury. The "beyond a reasonable doubt"
> > judgment will be made by the jurors. Let's
> wait
> > to see what those with the most informed
> > perspective have to say.
>
> im assuming you have been in the courtroom, what
> do YOU think. has the defense shown reasonable
> doubt?

Just my personal views from watching jurors, I think they are really insulted and pissed at the defense and they don't find Gardner credible.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 01, 2012 07:54AM

hopefully that is true, hmmmm. imagine if Falls Church has one of those NYC juries. Have y'all heard about that - woman gets raped, has the guts to go to trial and then this shit happens

http://gothamist.com/2012/03/31/gunpoint_rape_cop_jurors_dismissed.php

I pray to God that the ppl of Falls Church have more common fucking sense then the scum they put on the juries in NYC..........

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 01, 2012 09:34AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: head scratcher ()
Date: May 01, 2012 10:01AM

WingNut Wrote:
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> ...they are going to have to disregard the testimony of these
> young girls...

Based on what I've read (as previously noted, not that much), I easily could ignore the 2nd and third girls' testimonies and, due to the comical show the prosecution used put on with the first girl's testimony, I would have serious doubts about the first girl's testimony. But that's only based on the little I've read, not on what has actually transpired in the courtroom.

> ...also ignore the fact that the accused apparently blew a load of cum in a
> childs panties...

I haven't read THAT at all - instead, what I've read is the father's sperm was present in his child's panties and "DNA" from the defendant was present on/in a child's panties (and other clothes?). There wasn't anything I've read that said the "DNA" was in the form of semen and/or sperm.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 01, 2012 10:05AM

head scratcher Wrote:
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> Based on what I've read (as previously noted, not
> that much), I easily could ignore the 2nd and
> third girls' testimonies and, due to the comical
> show the prosecution used put on with the first
> girl's testimony, I would have serious doubts
> about the first girl's testimony. But that's only
> based on the little I've read, not on what has
> actually transpired in the courtroom.


Comical?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: May Day ()
Date: May 01, 2012 10:18AM

Big day for Falls Church. It is interesting that the election to fill Robin Gardner's seat is the same day this goes to trial.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 01, 2012 10:28AM

@MayDay - what'll be interesting is if she gets re-elected or not. May tell us a LOT about what's really going on in the minds of the good ppl of Falls Church

@Wingnut - only comical if yr idea of funny is sperm in a little girl's panties.

@headscrather - you gotta read more cause yr not getting the whole story at all, yo - not if yr only reading that city ppl of yrs. Read this whole thread then think about what that paper is doing to yr head - cause it made my head scratch a little too. :(

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: May Day ()
Date: May 01, 2012 10:56AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @MayDay - what'll be interesting is if she gets
> re-elected or not. May tell us a LOT about what's
> really going on in the minds of the good ppl of
> Falls Church

She isn't on the ballot. No matter how liberal our city is, I don't think she would have stood a chance given the allegations against her husband. Following the arrest, she missed a ton of city cocuncil meetings. Besides, her grasp on the council was broken in the last election. People didn't and shouldn't respond well to the Michael Gardner and Nick Benton attempted takeover of the city.

I believe he should and will be found guilty. My money is on the jury returning a verdict as early as today. I also assume a civil trial will ensue regardless of the outcome.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Jury is Out ()
Date: May 01, 2012 03:15PM

With Closing Arguments Made, Gardner Case Goes to the Jury
By Hillel Kuttler
Tuesday, May 01 2012 11:03:32 AM
An Arlington Circuit Court jury will begin deliberating at approximately 3 p.m. this afternoon over the fate of Falls Church resident Michael Gardner on charges of sexually molesting and assaulting three girls who visited his home last June.

Just before 1:30 p.m., a court official randomly selected the names of two of the 14-member panel of jurors and alternate jurors. The two people – one man and one woman – were thanked by Judge Benjamin Kendrick for their service and attentiveness, and then dismissed. The final jury that will pronounce Gardner guilty or not guilty consists of eight women and four men.

Their first order of business following an hour-long lunch break will be to select a foreman who will guide the deliberations and inform the court of the jury's verdict.

Prosecutor Nicole Wittmann and defense attorney Peter Greenspun each spent more than one hour this morning and early afternoon delivering closing arguments, consisting of summarizing their own cases, hammering away at the weaknesses of their counterpart's case and urging their sought-for verdicts. The two at various times made their points while grasping before the jury some of the evidence already presented during the case, including pajamas, underpants, a nightgown and sleeping bag belonging to the girls.

Wittmann's and Greenspun's arguments occurred before a packed courtroom that included five of the complainants' six parents; Gardner's wife, Robin, a member of the Falls Church city council; neighbors and friends on both sides; and curious court employees. Several people who had testified during the trial also attended, including Falls Church Police Department detective Sonia Richardson, the lead investigator on the case, who had been called to the stand more often than any other witness.

Gardner, sitting at the defense table across the room from the jury, wore a charcoal-colored suit and donned eyeglasses for the first time since the trial began on April 23.

Wittmann called on the jury to confine its deliberations to the facts presented at trial, resting her case on the twin pillars of the testimony of witnesses – primarily, the three girls Gardner allegedly assaulted during overnight visits to his daughter last June 16 and June 18 – and the DNA evidence collected from the undergarments of two of the girls. The testimony and evidence, which Wittmann called "loud and clear," justify conviction on all three charges of aggravated sexual battery and one charge of sexual penetration for which Gardner was indicted, she said.

Wittmann several times called the defense's presentation "nonsense" in various forms, and one based on speculation rather than on facts.

Greenspun told the jury that Wittmann had presented a "skilled and compelling argument," but one that was "wrong because Michael Gardner did not commit these crimes."

Several times, Greenspun mocked the prosecution's overall case and selected tactics as signs of "desperation" and of "smoke and mirrors" to obtain a conviction. He also repeatedly de-emphasized the value of the DNA evidence linking Gardner to the girls' garments because, he said, a visitor to someone's house would necessarily be "swimming" in the host's "DNA pool."

Gardner exhibited "courage" and "moxie" in deciding to testify yesterday in his own defense, Greenspun stated.

In her rebuttal near the end of today's session, Wittmann attacked Greenspun's "swimming ... pool" defense, arguing that forensic analysis of the girl's garments neither found the DNA of another male who then resided in the Gardner home nor the girls' DNA on each other.

"If, in fact, all these girls were swimming in the DNA pool, you'd expect to see different facts" emerge, she said.

"The DNA [evidence] is extremely convincing ... "What does that mean? That it's him," Wittmann said, referring to Gardner.

"What happened in the Gardner home these two days is unimaginable – except for the fact that all the [evidence] tells you that it is true," Wittmann concluded.

"Now it's in your hands," Greenspun told the jury at the end of his summation, comparing the trial's presentation to sponges that the jury now has to wring out while deliberating. "At the end, ladies and gentlemen, after you stop wringing it out ... you'll let Mr. Gardner go home with his family."

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: odds ()
Date: May 01, 2012 03:44PM

So, jury got the case at 3 pm. Any bets on when they return a verdict and what it will be?

Here is my prediction:

Tomorrow, at 11:30 am
Guilty.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: May 01, 2012 04:08PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 01, 2012 04:35PM

I hope he's read that, wingnut...........

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: this is just hillarious ()
Date: May 01, 2012 05:46PM

if it was just men on the city council, then there wouldn't be any stupid husbands to be retarded like this. troll logic is logical

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Will be over soon ()
Date: May 01, 2012 09:16PM

Wingnut you're prediction is off on the length of time. Three of the charges are one to twenty years and the penetration charge is from 5yrs to life. So minimum he is looking at 8yrs if convicted on all 4 counts and life plus 60 yrs would be the maximum. Also here is an FYI. Virginia abolished parole for convicted criminals in 1995 so whatever the final sentence is, that is how long he will serve.

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Date: May 02, 2012 07:10AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Will be over soon ()
Date: May 02, 2012 08:08AM

One of Judge Kendrick nick names is "Maximum Benny". Whatever the jury decides, he will most likely go along with it. Here is an old article about him that is interesting:
http://articles.nydailynews.com/1997-09-25/news/18054878_1_kendrick-rocket-docket-defense-lawyer

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: May 02, 2012 08:28AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: BREAKING NEWS!!! ()
Date: May 02, 2012 12:09PM

Jurors have reached a verdict on 3 charges and are deadlocked on the fourth.

No word on whether the agreed upon verdicts are guilty or not guilty.

I say they have found him guilty on the three lesser charges (sexual battery) and they are deadlocked on the penetration charge.

It'll shake out something like this. The jurors all believe there is enough evidence to support a verdict of guilty on the battery charges. Most of the jurors (believing he is guilty of those charges) are more than willing to tack on the penetration charge even with a lack of clear and convincing evidence. I'd do the same as any sentence is too short for this sick fuck. That being said, there are a couple of sticklers on the jury that demand clear and convincing evidence.

Guilty on the first 3, hung on the fourth. 1-60 year sentence potential. He will get sentenced to 6 years.

Any other predictions?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WUSA is reporting the same.... ()
Date: May 02, 2012 12:26PM

I think the above poster has it spot on.



ARLINGTON, Va. (WUSA) - Breaking news from the Michael Gardner child molestation trial. The jury has reached a verdict on three of the four counts.

The Falls Church businessman is accused of molesting three young girls who attended a sleep-over and his daughter's slumber party last June.

There is DNA evidence from the two girls who attended slumber party, with three charges connected to them. The third girl who was at the the sleep-over did not have her clothes tested since she came forward later.

The judge has requested that the jury continue to deliberate. You can follow Peggy Fox's tweets on the trial at PeggyTV and she'll have the latest on 9 News Now starting at 5 o'clock.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: castrate him ()
Date: May 02, 2012 12:33PM

Looks like Gardner and his attorney know he is going into lockup. It is probably the minority view to find him not guilty on the fourth charge. I bet those jurors cave by 3:30 and he is found guilty on all four counts.

------------------------------------

From the Falls Church News Press:

An Arlington Circuit Court jury reached unanimous verdicts this morning on three charges against Falls Church resident Michael Gardner, but was ordered to continue deliberating on the fourth charge before releasing any verdicts.

The jury had deliberated just under four and a half hours – two and a half hours yesterday afternoon and less than two hours this morning – before passing on this written message to Judge Benjamin Kendrick at 11:20 a.m.: "We have reached a unanimous verdict on three of the four counts. We have not reached a unanimous verdict on the fourth count. What do we do?"

Kendrick suggested to prosecutor Nicole Wittman and defense attorney Peter Greenspun that the jury be allowed to announce the three verdicts, be read the Allen charge – instructing jurors holding a minority view to reconsider its positions – and return to decide the fourth count.

Wittmann agreed to the suggestion, while Greenspun preferred that the panel remain in the jury room until reaching verdicts on all four counts. Wittman replied that she would not object to the defense's stance.

Kendrick suggested that his written response to the jury read, "Please continue until you reach a verdict," which Greenspun wanted amended to read, "Please continue with your deliberations." Kendrick considered the matter, then wrote a message on yellow-lined paper that he handed to a bailiff for delivery to the jury.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: see ya ()
Date: May 02, 2012 12:52PM

WASHINGTON -- A Virginia jury has found Michael Gardner, the husband of former Falls Church mayor and city councilwoman Robin Gardner, guilty of two counts of sexual battery and one count of object penetration.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: ! ()
Date: May 02, 2012 01:02PM

Good for the prosecution. Let's hope this a$$hole doesn't stay free pending appeal.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 02, 2012 01:11PM

oh nooooo...................let's hope he DOES stay free.............and under house arrest..........
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: May 02, 2012 01:16PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 02, 2012 01:21PM

whats sick as shit about that is that the parent would have been given more time behind bars than Gardener is gonna get :(

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Date: May 02, 2012 01:24PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Batman ()
Date: May 02, 2012 01:34PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> Locked up presentencing..
>
> "Judge Benjamin Kendrick ordered that Gardner be
> immediately taken into custody, rejecting a
> defense request that he be allowed to remain in a
> room in the building with his wife Robin, a Falls
> Church City Council member."


Ouch. The judge just showed us he is going to impose a pretty harsh sentence. If Gardner isn't allowed out prior to sentencing, I bet he will get a long sentence.

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Date: May 02, 2012 01:41PM

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Posted by: Advice for Mr. Gardner ()
Date: May 02, 2012 01:46PM


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Give him life ()
Date: May 02, 2012 04:24PM

Sentencing hearing has begun. Even Gardner's lawyer knows it will be a lengthy sentence.


Peter Greenspun, Gardner’s attorney, asked the jury to consider his client will punished enough by missing events in his children’s lives and asked them to consider giving him a seven-year sentence.

http://clarendon.patch.com/articles/gardner-faces-up-to-life-prison-sentence

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: No Pity ()
Date: May 02, 2012 05:01PM

Both defendant and attorney are scum.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 02, 2012 05:52PM

Jury recommends TWENTY-TWO YEAR SENTENCE.

Jesus Christ, even I thought 12 to 18 would be fair, and I would have been happy with ten years.

If Judge Kendrick follows through with the recommendation ( he can go lowers), Kinko will be almost 70 when he is released.

This story so disgusts me.

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it's not over yet, dammit............
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 02, 2012 06:12PM

YAY!!! I can at least say my respect for the ppl of Falls Church is back

now the next step is an independent investigation into how the Falls Church Police handled this.

cause imagine if Gardner had video

of YOUR kid being molested

on his computer that disappeared

and we will never know

how many children we could have helped

cause of some dicking around by somebody somewhere...................

man coached Girls Soccer for 8 years - y'all dont think he aint rubbed other girls you are fucking in more denial than Coucilwoman Headupherass

shit aint over

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Little City Weed ()
Date: May 02, 2012 06:15PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> I read some cooments on one of the local news
> sites. Apparently the tot-tapper ran a blog called
> "blueweeds".
>
> Looked for it online but it has disappeared.
> Curious to see what kind of lefty kook insanity
> was in the mind of this Chester.


His stupidity is still on full display on the Falls Church News Press. Search for the column called "The Little City Weed.". It is mostly on local issues, but you can get a sense of his smug, holier than thou pomposity.

It is good he is friends with Nick Benton. Nick can give him some pointers on sucking cock and taking it up the butt. Nick is an old pro and Mike soon will be.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Noggin knocker ()
Date: May 02, 2012 06:41PM

If this sick fuck had pled guilty and taken a plea, he'd probably have been sentenced to 5 to 8 years. Now he is looking at 20+.

His arrogance did him in.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: We don't say "Aint" round here ()
Date: May 02, 2012 06:52PM

@GordonBlvd

Constantly writing "ain't" and "y'all" in attempt to be folksy or to show your blue-collar affiliations simply makes you sound like a retard.


Just sayin...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 02, 2012 06:55PM

Noggin knocker Wrote:
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> If this sick fuck had pled guilty and taken a
> plea, he'd probably have been sentenced to 5 to 8
> years. Now he is looking at 20+.
>
> His arrogance did him in.


Those are my sentiments.

Greenspun and Shapiro are fuckheads and represent some deplorable people, but they are very competent counsel.They probably begged his stupid ass to take a plea, but had to put up with this idiots idea of what a good defense was.

Gardner paid considerably more for the jury trial, jury trials take a lot more preperation and research than a plea deal, which is often just damage mitigation and control.

Stupid fucker probably refused to listen to any good advice. He probably has his wife completely snookered or at least torn about the reality of his crimes. He probably has a few loser defenders left, but not for long.


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Blue Weeds Archive ()
Date: May 02, 2012 07:05PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> I read some cooments on one of the local news
> sites. Apparently the tot-tapper ran a blog called
> "blueweeds".
>
> Looked for it online but it has disappeared.
> Curious to see what kind of lefty kook insanity
> was in the mind of this Chester.


http://web.archive.org/web/20100707222625/http://blueweeds.typepad.com/blue_weeds/republicans/

Your curiosity quenched.

What an ass this guy is. It wouldn't surprise me if he posted in this forum.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Father ()
Date: May 02, 2012 08:08PM

Thanks for all of your support and comments. It has been a long road and your comments and names have often lifted my spirits. I will have to spend several hours in confession for taking such delight all of your "potty mouthed" posts, and I'm not even Catholic (It is also been great torture for Gardner as demonstrated by WSYN's comment on the first page.(I assume that was Gardner as only someone with a sick mind would turn what was in the report into that sick description)).

I do have to say that Falls Church Police have done a truly awesome job on this case despite having a lot of local political pressure being applied. Sgt. Lancaster and especially Detective Richardson did their investigation so well that even Greenspun could not poke holes in it. And believe me he tried. The prosecutors Nicole Wittmann and Alex Amato also did a fantastic job. Nicole was with us from the beginning and Virginia is well served by her efforts. The Commonwealth put a lot of time and resources into this case and I have to thank them for believing in our girls and sparing no effort to put Gardner away.

Falls Church City is a safer place today.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 02, 2012 09:08PM

man, I am glad I logged on again.

wow. Sir. I am blown away by your...........ability to remain calm and sane in what is been this entire event. I hope you and yr family are able to heal.

I thank you for taking the time to "speak" with us, and will most CERTAINLY rethink my thoughts on the police. Are you able to talk about stuff investigation-wise? I am under the impression that Gardner's house wasnt searched for a while and that he got rid of his computer. Is this true or false or can you even talk about it cause I really want to know - thank you if you can

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: trustee ()
Date: May 02, 2012 09:17PM

With his snotty arrogant attitude he will not do well in the state system. He could end up at the Red Onion which is one tough lockdown.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: trustee ()
Date: May 02, 2012 09:26PM

Rule one in state lockup is keep your mouth shut. This guy doesnt look like he has that in him. I picture him as the type who will run his mouth about his rights. Even in the medium security prisons it can be tough esp if you run your mouth and piss off the guards or fellow inmates. He looks soft and the type with no real street experience by which I mean he will not do well in lockup.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Involved Parent ()
Date: May 02, 2012 11:21PM

Just to clarify a point, Breaking News' comment re: "lack of clear and convincing evidence" on the penetration charge is not correct. Not only was the evidence clear and convincing, it was disgustingly so - photos of a wound, as well as DNA. The poor jurors were put through the wringer on this case.

I would like to thank everyone with supportive comments for giving the girls the benefit of the doubt during the past 10 months. These girls were enormously courageous and took a beating throughout the process. They were truthful, consistent, and most of all, their accounts were supported by the physical evidence. It was difficult to read comments about what an upstanding citizen the now-convicted child molester was when the DNA results were in 6 months ago (albeit erroneously reported the first time around).

The only thing worse than the words of support for the convicted child molester were those for his loving wife. Anyone who knew these girls should have heard the flat-out untruthful and mean-spirited characterizations of them by Robin -- it was truly sickening. She was absolutely heartless about these poor girls, while the prosecution declined to do the same to her two kids. It's hard to be sympathetic about someone who is not only non-apologetic in the face of the evidence and the verdict, but so self-centered as to put on quite a hysterical show during the victim impact statements, focusing on how her life has been disrupted, etc. And worst of all, she refuses to acknowledge the symptoms of abuse that her own kids have exhibited, which doesn't say much about her willingness to protect them either.

While the police may not have been able to conduct the search of their home in the most timely manner (not necessarily their fault), it should be noted that Robin had access to their automated equipment after the convicted child molester's arrest. Also, I can't say enough about the support and cooperation we've received from both the Falls Church Police Department and the Arlington Commonwealth Attorney's office. These people were fantastic and the people of Falls Church, Arlington and Loudoun County are lucky to have them. And Judge Kendrick ran a very tight ship.

My most fervent hope is that Mrs. G will soon begin enjoying life far away from Falls Church. Thanks for sticking through this with us. This has been a very helpful site.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: curious neighbor ()
Date: May 02, 2012 11:27PM

Why are there emergency No Parking signs in front of the Gardner home? IIRC they are for 5/3, 7 am - 5:30 pm.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: I live in FC ()
Date: May 02, 2012 11:35PM

Father Wrote:
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> Thanks for all of your support and comments. It
> has been a long road and your comments and names
> have often lifted my spirits. I will have to spend
> several hours in confession for taking such
> delight all of your "potty mouthed" posts, and I'm
> not even Catholic (It is also been great torture
> for Gardner as demonstrated by WSYN's comment on
> the first page.(I assume that was Gardner as only
> someone with a sick mind would turn what was in
> the report into that sick description)).
>
> I do have to say that Falls Church Police have
> done a truly awesome job on this case despite
> having a lot of local political pressure being
> applied. Sgt. Lancaster and especially Detective
> Richardson did their investigation so well that
> even Greenspun could not poke holes in it. And
> believe me he tried. The prosecutors Nicole
> Wittmann and Alex Amato also did a fantastic job.
> Nicole was with us from the beginning and Virginia
> is well served by her efforts. The Commonwealth
> put a lot of time and resources into this case and
> I have to thank them for believing in our girls
> and sparing no effort to put Gardner away.
>
> Falls Church City is a safer place today.


Sir, your family is definitely in my thoughts and prayers. Thank you for taking this animal off the streets.

No words can ever express my emotions related to how horrified and repulsed I am by this monster.

I hope that your daughter can one day recover and thrive the way she should have absent this despicable event.

Your daughter is a hero and a champion. Love her forever as I know you will.

I am not one of those people that is an uber religious person, but your strength reaffirms my faith in humanity.

I have daughters and I am not sure I could be as dignified as you.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: No forgiveness ()
Date: May 03, 2012 12:40AM

Lydia Zache Wrote:
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> I am a personal friend of Michael Gardner we went
> to george mason university together where he
> served as student government president and I was
> on the senate. Michael is a man who is of
> integrity and virtue he loves his family and his
> community and I find it difficult to believe such
> allegations in reference to him.
> I say he is innocent until proven guilty. It seems
> to me this could be a gross exaggeration of some
> sort or conspiracy or imagination on the part of
> the children involved. Michael was an integral
> part of the falls church community who cared and I
> believe he deserves more support and the benefit
> of the doubt until there is some real definitive
> evidence which can prove otherwise.


Sorry, Lydia. You fail. This douche has what is coming to him in state prison. 20 years of ass raping is not even close to what he deserves.

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Date: May 03, 2012 02:05AM


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 03, 2012 08:04AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 03, 2012 08:50AM

so Lydia Zache - tell me something - what would you say to those 3 little girls? Would you be MAD at them for HURTING your friend?

I'm curious as to if there is going to be any retribution from Gardner's power-buddies towards the families of his victims for any of this.

PEOPLE OF FALLS CHURCH I AM COUNTING ON YOU TO MAKE SURE THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN

THE FAMILIES OF GARDNER'S VICTIMS SHOULD NOT BE MADE TO SUFFER ANY MORE FROM HIS ACTIONS!!

thank you to whoever put that video up - good stuff =)
@wingnut - I'm watching that and my questions are
a) was Mikey tagging that regularly (the way her voice couldnt hit those high notes, it sounded like he hadnt been giving her any practice on that tip in a while LoLz)
b) Was the pedoactions part of some "thing" involved with their sex life - I mean did he need the "sparK" of a pedo-action to get it on with her, is what I'm trying to say, I guess............
c) Was she in denial or was she helping a little. He was a soccer coach for as long as my kids been alive - LOOOONNG TIME for a pedobear to be running loose around little girls so Reno odds say the number's bigger than 3 in my book so she had to know something was up - I just wonder which way her wind is blowing........

@No forgiveness - actually, it was stated best earlier in the thread:
Posted by: feedhisballs2apitbull ()
Date: July 13, 2011 03:14PM

Even when we do, and he is found guilty, the sentence he receives will be far less than what he deserves. Anything less than castration is a travesty of justice.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 03, 2012 08:57AM

to the 3 little girls that I'll never meet:

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOUR BRAVERY IS SOMETHING I WILL REMEMBER FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!

What you three have done is something on the real life level of Batman - VERY Super Hero like. NO JOKE! You have SERIOUSLY taken down a real-life Evil, Nasty Bad Guy. And not just some stupid streetpunk - you actually took down like Falls Churchs very on Lex Luthor. And I know it sounds crazy, but I'm dead serious. Guy was power, not only in the city, but on a regional (and beyond in some circles) level. And he had ppl played for fools. POWERFUL people

and that didnt let that stop you

and that is something I hope to carry with me for the rest of my life

and that is something I hope you three remember about this whole ordeal as you grow to put it behind you

that NOTHING can stop you - since you already smacked evil in the face

all before high school too........pretty impressive, kids ;)

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: MADA ()
Date: May 03, 2012 08:59AM

As much as we all want this fat ass nasty fuck getting ass raped, he will be in PC. Punk city..no one will be able to touch him but himself. He might kill himself though so let's hope for that!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 03, 2012 09:04AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Voice of Reason ()
Date: May 03, 2012 10:56AM

While I of course find Mr. Gardner's actions horrible, I'm worried about the comments on here. Some of you are truely ugly people. To say that rape in prison is not only acceptable, but welcome is horrific. Here's a man who had everything; good family, nice home, good job, all gone because of the actions he took one night in June. His wife of what, 20 plus years, you decide to attack? Nice. I'm also surprised and dismayed you want to put justice in the hands of criminals, as long as it's in prison away from your shaded neighborhoods. That's not the point of prison.

He's going away for at least 20 years and he'll likely die in prison, all to cop a feel on a kid. It doesn't make any sense to me. Throwing a lifetime worth of work away on that. Some of you act like his wife should have known. Really? You know a lot of successful lawyers who one day out of the blue decide to enter his kid's slumber party and feel up two little girls? I'll never understand how something like this happens. To literally throw away all you have, to harm kids, to miss out on your kids lives, I'll just never understand it.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: rebuttal ()
Date: May 03, 2012 11:23AM

Voice of Reason Wrote:
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> While I of course find Mr. Gardner's actions
> horrible, I'm worried about the comments on here.
> Some of you are truely ugly people.

Nowhere near as ugly as Mr. Gardner.

> To say that rape in prison is not only acceptable, but welcome
> is horrific.

It is called Karma.

> Here's a man who had everything;
> good family, nice home, good job, all gone because
> of the actions he took one night in June. His
> wife of what, 20 plus years, you decide to attack?

She testified on his behalf under oath.

> Nice. I'm also surprised and dismayed you want
> to put justice in the hands of criminals, as long
> as it's in prison away from your shaded
> neighborhoods. That's not the point of prison.

In my mind, the point of prison is to punish. The notion of rehabilitation is ridiculous. There is a reason sex offenses carry lengthy sentences. Recitivism among sex offenders is one of the highest among all criminals. There is a reason for a sex offender registry.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 03, 2012 03:40PM

@Voice of reason - I want you to go to CVS, buy yourself a can of Raid Hornet and Wasp Killer, and I need for you to spray it directly into your mouth and eyes please.

HOW DARE YOU WHINE ABOUT LITTLE MIKEY'S PAIN WHEN HE IS THE COMPLETE FUCKING ASSHOLE WHO STARTED/CREATED/FABRICATED THIS PAIN IN THE FIRST PLACE, JACKASS!!!!

"He's going away for at least 20 years and he'll likely die in prison, all to cop a feel on a kid. It doesn't make any sense to me"

Doesnt make any sense to you? doesnt make.......? Does...........AAAAAGGHRHRRHRHRHRRHGYUGYUOGYUGBJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Gordon losing his mind again.........)

The reason Gardner is going to prison: to keep ppl like me from FUCKING BURNING HIS HOUSE TO THE FUCKING GROUND! Are you FUCKING UNDERSTANDING ME!?!?!

You say we are weak and that we'd only let criminals harm him? I would sooo willingly take and object and do to him what needs to be done. Got a LOT of other parents would pay for just a Lotto chance to line up behind me. He's going to jail to keep us calm, and not do that. That's why, capesh? They call it "law and order" around here.

I know you are having trouble with this whole CARING ABOUT THE CHILDREN IN YOUR COMMUNITY OVER YOUR PEDOPHILE FRIENDS thing, so I'll try to help you out. Its like this. Here in America, it is the RIGHT OF EVERY AMERICAN TO HAVE FREEDOM and Gardner attempted to take those freedoms (in this case sexual freedom) away BY PHYSICAL FORCE (or what? are you saying he didnt force himself on the girls? Are you gonna argue that they maybe wanted it? Say that, Voice. Say that so I can reach thru this hear interweb, grab your trachea, and start using it as a foot pumice!)

Look, I get that you still wanna be buds with him, make this all go away and be like it was before. Aint gonna happen. And keep this in mind too, Brainiac: he ALSO used his friends, family, and connections to FLAT OUT FUCKING LIE TO PEOPLE!!!! DONT YOU GET THIS!?!?!

So now, we dont know how many girls he's touched, seen, rubbed, etc. We dont. We simply dont, ok? YOu can say blah blah blah all the live long day, but all that falls out of your mouth is shit if there is even ONE GIRL out there whose had to deal with this. 8 yrs as girls soccer coach tells me that he's cum more than once around little kids. I dont know.

And I know you dont either and never will.

But I do know your friend is fake and has been for years. You thought you knew what it was but he's not human. He's a pedo. If you arent, then you need to WAKE THE FUCK UP THE MINUTE YOU READ THIS AND REALIZE YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO AND HE IS A SICK FUCKING PEDO WHO WOULD HARM ANY CHILD IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, even yours and may have without you or even the kid knowing it. Coach rubs a couple times in a group huddle and yr a 7 yr old, you may not even think twice about it - meanwhile Gardners running to the shed to get some kleenx to wipe himself off - prolly happend alot more than we'd care to think about.........

which is the point of that whole prison thingee you were so confused about before, k?

edit: voice - I've been asked to explain something to you - the fact that a lotta anger towards Gardner is the complete utter lack of disrespect has been shown from his camp towards the victims of this crime. Even you in yr post dont even acknowledge the LEGITIMATE pain the families of these kids have dealt with, ONLY yr friend. That kinda feeds this whole anger thing. Just want to let you know. Gardner has generated a LOT of animosity because of this. IF you truly care and truly are a real person, you will let others in his camp know this, and maybe they will do something about it..............



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: FC Mom ()
Date: May 03, 2012 04:48PM

I completely agree with and enjoy your comments about this SBO, but your comments about women are unnecessarily distracting from your message. These little girls are strong, brave, powerful people. Will that be a problem for you when they grow to be strong women? Are women who are powerful in and out of the home a negative - are we "shrill and controlling"? Even worse, you seem to be suggesting that women who don't "put out" on demand contribute to men seeking intimacy with children. Maybe that's what men who do these things tell themselves, but that is complete BS. Societies that condone abuse of girls, sexual or otherwise, tend to support the views you have expressed with respect to women. I feel your rage, including toward the wife, but it shouldn't be about her being a woman who isn't a passive Barbie or whatever a "good" woman is supposed to be. There will always be pedos, but I believe less hatred of women who don't "conform" = less abuse of girls.

Just my 2 cents, please carry on with your otherwise excellent commentary.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Marcus Welby ()
Date: May 03, 2012 06:01PM

Gordo...Xanax...now...you're getting all revved up...we talked about this...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Obviously Obvious ()
Date: May 03, 2012 06:03PM

Doesnt make any sense to you? doesnt make.......? Does...........AAAAAGGHRHRRHRHRHRRHGYUGYUOGYUGBJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Gordon losing his mind again.........)



Doesnt make any sense to you? doesnt make.......? Does...........AAAAAGGHRHRRHRHRHRRHGYUGYUOGYUGBJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Gordon losing HER mind again.........)



Corrected that for you...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: voice of reason ()
Date: May 03, 2012 08:08PM

Gordon - I in no way defended Mr. Gardner. You clearly have a rage problem. Rape is wrong. I'm sorry you don't know that. Rape is wrong in all instances. I can understand if you are one of the parents in this case. I suspect you are not since the parents were satisfied with 22 years. As for "it doesn't make sense." These actions by a father of two at his daughters birthday party makes sense to you? I didn't defend him in any way.

I find it hard to believe people are defending your sexist remarks. Your terroristic threat. And your call for vigilanteism even after justice has been served. Just because Mr. Gardner has a problem doesn't absolve you.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: el creepo ()
Date: May 03, 2012 09:01PM

Voice of Reason Wrote:
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Here's a man who had everything;
> good family, nice home, good job, all gone because
> of the actions he took one night in June.

If I am to believe you then this was the first and last time he did something like this. I have my doubts.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: zack m ()
Date: May 03, 2012 09:03PM

IMO the most despicable people on the face of this earth are those that abuse children.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Father ()
Date: May 04, 2012 12:07AM

Voice of Reason, if you do even the slightest bit of research on the subject, you will realize this is not the first time he has done something.

"The average number of sexual offenses a pedophile commits before being caught is believed to be more than 100. Stopping one pedophile means saving many victims."(Chilren's Center for Hope and Healing)

As a class of criminal, they have the highest recidivism rate. Attempts to rehabilitate only make them more sophisticated offenders. A 47 year old man does not just suddenly become a child molester out of the blue.

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