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Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: In the News... ()
Date: June 24, 2011 06:47AM

Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Updated: Thursday, 23 Jun 2011, 11:33 PM EDT
Published : Thursday, 23 Jun 2011, 10:52 PM EDT
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/virginia/husband-of-falls-church-city-council-member-arrested-062311#ixzz1QBnObggW


FALLS CHURCH, Va. - It is a shocking arrest in Falls Church. Michael Gardner, the husband of City Council Member and former Mayor Robin Gardner, was arrested for incidents police say happened at the family home.

The City of Falls Church issued a statement saying that Michael Gardner was arrested and charged with two felony counts of aggravated sexual battery and one count of object sexual penetration.

Falls Church authorities were contacted by the female victims who were at home and told officers that Gardner had inappropriate psychical contact with them. The statement says after police interviewed the victims who were at home, they obtained search warrants for DNA.

FOX 5 attempted to speak with someone at the Gardner home, but no one came to the door. Our phone call to the home was not returned.

Robin Gardner has been on the Falls Church Council since 2000. She served as Mayor of Falls Church from 2006 to 2010.

Michael Gardner is well known in the community. He writes a column for the Falls Church News-Press and is the former Chairman of the Falls Church City Democratic Committee.

Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested: MyFoxDC.com


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 24, 2011 07:14AM

WOW!! What an asshole.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Kreskin ()
Date: June 24, 2011 07:33AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> WOW!! What an asshole.
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> so ok, placing bets on the object.................


No object, he did it with his mental powers - thus the statement that "Gardner had inappropriate psychical contact".

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Priapus ()
Date: June 24, 2011 07:58AM

Wonder how long it took to find the worst picture of him?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Date: June 24, 2011 08:18AM

Booking photo?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: graymoose1 ()
Date: June 24, 2011 08:33AM

Was one of the young girls yagirll?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Date: June 24, 2011 08:49AM

Object penetration..... dildo? Broom handle? Brush handle? Was the object penetration anal or vaginal?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: June 24, 2011 09:23AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: kdubz ()
Date: June 24, 2011 09:31AM

i posted this in the falls church city section of ffx undg because it happened in falls church city (outside the county) but here is a link to the guys rants.
his blog

http://blueweeds.typepad.com/

he also writes weekly for the falls church news press. he is good friends with the owner of that paper.

http://www.fcnp.com/commentary/local/9464-tlc116.html

dude is a liberal, fo sho.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Date: June 24, 2011 09:46AM

Liberal and City of Falls Church are akin to flies and shit.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: kdubz ()
Date: June 24, 2011 12:02PM

i 100% agree but not every resident has a liberal blog and was head of a dem. cmty. dude thinks he is HDIC.

Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: kdubz ()
Date: June 24, 2011 12:20PM

he hosted an event for theo stamos in his home. conflict of interest in this case??????

http://www.fcnp.com/around-fc/8233.html

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ciao ()
Date: June 30, 2011 06:37PM

No wonder this guy was so keen on having a hotel built across from an Elementary School.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: June 30, 2011 08:53PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: In the News... ()
Date: July 01, 2011 10:06AM

1st Court Date Set July 12 in Sexual Abuse Case Vs. Michael Gardner
By Nicholas F. Benton
Wednesday, June 29 2011 07:01:40 PM
http://www.fcnp.com/news/9573-1st-court-date-set-july-12-in-sexual-abuse-case-vs-michael-gardner.html

A City of Falls Church spokesperson confirmed to the News-Press Wednesday afternoon that City resident and prominent citizen-activist Michael A. Gardner is due in a Falls Church courtroom at City Hall July 12 to face charges of sexual assaulting three young girls in alleged incidents at his home on two separate occasions earlier this month.

Gardner's arrest last week sparked regional and national coverage, given his role in the community as husband of former mayor and current City Council member Robin Gardner, and as a past chair of the City's Democratic Committee, and high-profile blogger and local-issues columnist who wrote in the News-Press. It also provoked a firestorm of mostly angry reactions on websites reporting the arrest, including at the News-Press' website, FCNP.com.

However, Gardner's attorney, former Falls Church Mayor Brian O'Connor, insisted in an interview with the News-Press on his client's innocence, saying Gardner "has categorically denied any criminal behavior and would never knowingly harm any child." He added that Gardner's wife "is very supportive of Mike." Gardner pleaded not guilty to all charges last Thursday, and has been released on $50,000 bond.

Gardner's arrest took place at 5:24 p.m. Wednesday, June 22, four days after the second of two alleged assault incidents, on two counts of sexual assault and one count of object sexual penetration of minors. A press release detailing the charges and identifying Garder was issued by the Falls Church City Hall Office of Communications within minutes of his arrest. O'Connor said he was first contacted by Gardner on Monday, June 20.

Gardner, who according to police records reported by the Associated Press, was charged with sexually abusing three girls, two of whom, ages 9 and 10, attended a birthday slumber party for his 10-year-old daughter Saturday night and a third, also under age 13, in a separate incident earlier.

He is slated to appear in Juvenile Domestic Relations Court in Falls Church June 12, but in keeping with all proceedings in that court, it will not be open to the public. The prosecution, although under the auspices of the Arlington Circuit Court, will be conducted by Nicole Wittman, a prosecutor from Loudoun County.

According to unofficial reports, Arlington County Attorney Dick Trodden requested of his Loudoun counterpart that Loudoun handle the prosecution because of the long history of Gardner's political associations with the county attorneys offices of both Arlington and Fairfax County.

O'Connor told the News-Press in a telephone interview yesterday that he still has not been able to sit down with the prosecution to assess the evidence. "This is a devastating accusation to have, and it has been a nightmare to this point for Mike, Robin and their kids," O'Connor said. "My advice has been to try to live as normally as they can."

The family remains in the area, although not at their Ellison Street home. Robin Gardner did not attend this Monday's City Council meeting, as of press time she had not replied to a written inquiry from the News-Press about her plans to attend future meetings.

O'Connor, in comments to the News-Press last week, said his client "is someone who has never had a whiff of scandal" around him, and "has an excellent reputation in the community for his character."

"We will deal with the facts as they unfold," he said. There is no indication, he said, that the court's request for a DNA sample from Gardner had anything to do with a suggestion of actual sexual contact. He said that Gardner "is determined to fight this case." Said O'Connor, "I am going to help this man."

The Gardners are the parents of twins, one male and one female.

According to reports, shortly after the alleged incident Saturday night, June 18, the nine-year-old girl was taken to a sexual-assault nurse specialist at the Inova Fairfax Hospital where an examination was performed.

According to the City of Falls Church, police conducted a number of follow-up interviews with the alleged victims and others attending the slumber party, and a saliva sample for purposes of DNA testing was taken from Gardner.

Interviews with neighbors to the Gardners indicated shock but a willingness to presume innocence until proven guilty. They also expressed concern for the fallout on Robin Gardner's political career in the City. She served as mayor from 2006 to 2010 and continues as a member of the Council.
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: July 01, 2011 11:12AM

Interviews with neighbors to the Gardners indicated shock but a willingness to presume innocence until proven guilty. They also expressed concern for the fallout on Robin Gardner's political career in the City. She served as mayor from 2006 to 2010 and continues as a member of the Council.


no concern for the kids wellbeing, I note. What a bunch of assholes.......................

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned Parents ()
Date: July 01, 2011 12:38PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> Interviews with neighbors to the Gardners
> indicated shock but a willingness to presume
> innocence until proven guilty. They also expressed
> concern for the fallout on Robin Gardner's
> political career in the City. She served as mayor
> from 2006 to 2010 and continues as a member of the
> Council.
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>
> no concern for the kids wellbeing, I note. What a
> bunch of assholes.......................

They should all be run out of town!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church Guy ()
Date: July 01, 2011 08:25PM

He dit it like this, he did it like that, he did it with a wiffle ball bat! Are any of these fucktards from Virginia? My guess is they are carpet bagging Yankees.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: FC NOVA ()
Date: July 05, 2011 12:50PM

Pinhead wrote:
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: cuthisballsoff ()
Date: July 12, 2011 12:34PM

The Public Information Office of the City of Falls Church issued a media advisory tonight in anticipation of what could be a major descent of regional media on the Falls Church City Hall tomorrow, location of the preliminary hearing in the case involving two felony charges of aggravated sexual battery and one count of object sexual penetration of minors against F.C. City resident and political activist Michael Gardner. The F.C.General District Court will convene in the Council chambers at City Hall tomorrow (Tuesday) morning, and Gardner, 47, is slated to appear at 11:45 a.m.

Barbara Gordon, the Director of Communications for Falls Church, issued a media advisory tonight indicating that a tent will be set up outside the courtroom to accommodate the press, and that the decision on whether the courtroom will be open for the press won't be made by the court until tomorrow.

In a new development, Gardner's initial attorney, former Falls Church mayor Brian O'Connor, told the News-Press today that he no longer represents Gardner, and that the case has been taken over by Peter Greenspun, of the Fairfax County law firm of Greenspun, Shapiro, Davis and Leary, the attorney involved in the defense of the D.C.-area sniper suspects and who is routinely ranked among the best lawyers in Virginia and the Washington, D.C. region.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: puthisballsinavice ()
Date: July 12, 2011 02:18PM

12:49 p.m.

Judge Esther Wiggins ordered the courtroom cleared at about 12:30 this afternoon. Michael A. Gardner arrived with his wife and current City Council member, Robin, and his attorney.

The judge ordered the court closed because children witnesses are supposed to speak during this preliminary hearing.

Gardner, who served as chairman of the Falls Church City Democratic Committee from 2006 to 2007, was charged with sexual assault against two juvenile females, according to records from Arlington Circuit Court following an alleged sleepover at his home on June 18. Arlington County Sheriff Chief Deputy Paul Larson said Gardner was released from the Arlington County Detention Center on a $50,000 bond. The alleged victims, 10 and 9-years-old, identified Gardner as the person who sexually assaulted them in the basement of his Falls Church home during an alleged sleepover for Gardner’s daughter, according to court records. City of Falls Church Police charged Gardner on June 22.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Date: July 12, 2011 02:23PM

Democrats at their best.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: July 12, 2011 03:34PM

http://www.fcnp.com/around-fc/8233.html

This creep may well be innocent, so I will keep my pitchfork down for now, but he is a sickly looking fucker in the picture. Maybe he has alcohol issues or something.

If Esther Wiggins is the judge presiding over his case, I feel sorry for him at sentencing. She was supposed to have had a serious hard-on for domestic and tot-tapping cases while an asst. Comm.Atty in Arlington. Good for her.

I mentioned this before and I will say it again and add the picture below which was taken in the Gardner home in City of FC. Gardners wife is pictured second from the left and the woman on the second from the right is Theo Stamos, another Arlington assistant Comm. Atty. who is running to be Comm. Atty in Arlington County.

She will likely win the election, being a Democrat in Arlington and actually a pretty competent and reasonable prosecutor from what I remember of the times I spent in the courthouse years ago. I am wondering already if she will be the prosecutor assigned to this case? It would really be something if she had to send her friends hubby down the road for 15 years.


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: sub CA ()
Date: July 12, 2011 03:43PM

They had to bring a prosecutor in from Loudoun because of all the political connections between the Gardners and the FC/Arl Democristas.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: July 12, 2011 03:49PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: kiki ()
Date: July 12, 2011 04:42PM

WOW - he is going to trial!
I went to high school with this guy and am totally shocked. Never thoughthe would turn out like this. So gross.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: heave ho ()
Date: July 12, 2011 04:46PM

All I know is that if his wife intends on missing all of the council meetings, she should just resign. Do it quietly, do it now.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: puthisballsinablender ()
Date: July 13, 2011 11:50AM

At the Council chambers of the Falls Church City Hall, regularly used for district court matters on weekdays, Arlington Circuit Court Judge Esther Wiggins denied petitions today from defendant Michael Gardner for opportunities to visit with his two children, following graphic testimony by three preteen alleged victims that Gardner has been charged with sexually abusing.

Judge Wiggins ruled at today's preliminary hearing that probable cause exists for taking the case to trial, scheduled to begin with an arraignment in the Arlington Circuit Court next week, on July 21 at 9:30 a.m.

Gardner is charged with committing two felony acts of aggravated sexual battery and one act of object sexual penetration. He has pleaded not guilty.

After initially closing the courtroom to all but the victims, their parents, social workers, Gardner's wife, Falls Church City Council member Robin Gardner, and legal counsel, Judge Wiggins consulted with the victims and their families, and decided to open the court to reporters.

Seated next to their parents, each child was brought to the witness stand, asked to identify Gardner in the courtroom, and to describe the events that took place on the nights they claim they were assaulted. They responded to questions from prosecutor Nicole Wittman, Deputy Commonwealth's Attorney for Loudoun County, and Gardner's attorney Peter Greenspun.

Two victims said they were sleeping at the Gardner household in a basement on June 18 when Gardner repeatedly fondled them. A third victim,who slept over in Gardner's daughter's room on June 16, said Gardner repeatedly touched her beneath her clothing. She claimed that he whispered to her, asking if it "felt good."

After Wiggins ruled that Gardner's case would continue to circuit court, Greenspun asked if Gardner could be permitted to see his twin children with adult supervision. Wiggins denied the request. Greenspun again requested that Gardner be able to see his children with adult supervision in public areas, but again Wiggins denied the request.

Yesterday, Gardner's first attorney, former Falls Church Mayor Brian O'Connor told the News-Press that he remains convinced of Gardner's innocence. Gardner remains free on bond.

Robin Gardner came in for the hearing from a location in New Jersey where she is staying with her children. She was not present at last night's Falls Church City Council meeting, held in the same chamber as today's hearing.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: July 13, 2011 12:10PM

to the ppl who keep saying he's innocent - I want to know how you can think that is the case? Do you SERIOUSLY believe those two little girls are lying/mistaken about what they say occurred?

I want to know what you think could be going on if you really think he is truly innocent of the charges, what plausible scenario could make this change of events happen.

Not saying he should be strung up (yet) - I'm just curious as to what scenarios ppl who claim his innocence believe happened

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Hester Prine ()
Date: July 13, 2011 12:17PM

Why even bother going through the time and expense of a trial when all we need is to have GordonBlvd make a pronouncement...

"Not saying he should be strung up (yet)"...

Hell, you and Macfistula are the experts on everything; I'm surprised you two haven't been called to testify in this case.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: feedhisballs2apitbull ()
Date: July 13, 2011 03:14PM

Hester Prine Wrote:
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> Why even bother going through the time and expense
> of a trial when all we need is to have GordonBlvd
> make a pronouncement...


Even when we do, and he is found guilty, the sentence he receives will be far less than what he deserves. Anything less than castration is a travesty of justice.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Give him the Chair ()
Date: July 13, 2011 05:26PM

feedhisballs2apitbull Wrote:
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> Hester Prine Wrote:
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> > Why even bother going through the time and
> expense
> > of a trial when all we need is to have
> GordonBlvd
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> Even when we do, and he is found guilty, the
> sentence he receives will be far less than what he
> deserves. Anything less than castration is a
> travesty of justice.

Feedhisballs2 - I agree 100%. Any sick bastard that is turned on by 10 year old kids cannot be cured and should be jailed for a very long time or castrated.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: July 14, 2011 09:50PM

@Hester - wow......when did you become a card-carrying memember of the pro-child-fucking lobby?
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Updated ()
Date: July 15, 2011 10:32AM

Gardner Case Referred to Arlington Grand Jury
By GEORGE BROMLEY
Falls Church Times Staff
July 12, 2011
http://fallschurchtimes.com/29725/gardner-case-referred-to-arlington-grand-jury/

Michael Gardner, facing charges of sexual abuse involving three young girls, appeared today for a preliminary hearing in Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court. After listening to explicit testimony from each girl, Judge Esther Wiggins declared she had found probable cause and referred the case to the Grand Jury of the Arlington Circuit Court.

The Grand Jury will convene on Thursday, July 21 and may hand down an indictment. Mr. Gardner has been charged with aggravated sexual battery and object sexual penetration. Two of the girls are 10 years old and one is 9.

Judge Wiggins initially closed the Court to all but those directly involved in the case and the girls’ parents. However, after 40 minutes she reversed her ruling and opened the courtroom to reporters and spectators.

The girls, all of whom testified separately, were first questioned by prosecutor Nicole Wittman. She asked relatively few questions, first requesting each girl to identify Mr. Gardner and then to describe the nature of the alleged abuse.

Defense counsel Peter Greenspun then cross-examined each girl, asking many more questions and meeting occasional objections from Ms. Wittman, which Judge Wiggins generally sustained. Each girl’s parents accompanied them to the witness stand, sitting directly to their left. All three girls maintained their composure throughout the questioning.

One girl recounted two incidents, several minutes apart. During his cross-examination Mr. Greenspun sought to determine the length of each by timing the girl’s recollection, first saying “start” and then waiting until the witness said “stop.” Times of 19 and 24 seconds were recorded.

Another girl testified that the accused asked her “Did that feel good.” She said she responded “No.”

The events at issue occurred on the night of June 18, when two of the girls attended a slumber party at the Gardner home, and on the night of June 16, when the third girl slept over at the house. Mr. Gardner was arrested on June 22 and was released the following day on $50,000 bond.

At the close of the hearing Mr. Greenspun asked that the Court allow Mr. Gardner to see his two children, a restriction imposed on the condition of his bond. However, Judge Wiggins refused the request, saying she would rather err on the side of caution.

Prior to the hearing, Mr. Gardner sat with his wife Robin and his attorney. However, she did not accompany her husband, either when he entered City Hall or when he left.

Mr. Greenspun, who has replaced Brian O’Connor as Mr. Gardner’s counsel, is a well-known criminal defense attorney. Previous clients have included D.C. sniper John Allen Muhammad and famed sportscaster Marv Albert.

The Gardner case has attracted considerable attention in the local news media. Reporters from Falls Church Patch, the News-Press, and three area television stations attended today’s hearing.

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Posted by: what about his daughter? ()
Date: July 15, 2011 10:48AM

I heard all the girls were sleeping in the same room at the slumber party so his daughter was present during the incident. If I was his wife I would run like hell to keep him away their daughter. He sounds sick.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: puthisballsinamandolinslicer ()
Date: July 15, 2011 03:18PM

what about his daughter? Wrote:
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> I heard all the girls were sleeping in the same
> room at the slumber party so his daughter was
> present during the incident. If I was his wife I
> would run like hell to keep him away their
> daughter. He sounds sick.

And to think there are posters on the Falls Church Times and Falls Church News Press defending this SICK ASS FREAK.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Lydia Zache ()
Date: July 15, 2011 03:34PM

I am a personal friend of Michael Gardner we went to george mason university together where he served as student government president and I was on the senate. Michael is a man who is of integrity and virtue he loves his family and his community and I find it difficult to believe such allegations in reference to him.
I say he is innocent until proven guilty. It seems to me this could be a gross exaggeration of some sort or conspiracy or imagination on the part of the children involved. Michael was an integral part of the falls church community who cared and I believe he deserves more support and the benefit of the doubt until there is some real definitive evidence which can prove otherwise.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: COL Mustard ()
Date: July 15, 2011 03:37PM

While I agree with Lydia that Mike is innocent until proven guilty, we need to support the victims and their families during this ordeal. We also need to remember that Robin and her children are victims of this too. They didn’t do anything to deserve the hell they must be living through.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Lisa Smith ()
Date: July 15, 2011 03:51PM

It is rather shocking to read Lydia’s attempt to exonerate Michael Gardner. Does she think these girls conspired against him and made this up? Just because you think you know someone well does not mean that such person is incapable of committing a crime against a child. I am sure most people would say the same thing about all those priests–Oh, they were such upstanding Christians! They would never commit such a heinous crime. What about Dr. Earl Bradley from Delaware? The pediatrician who molested more than 200 kids before being arrested? I am sure people thought he was a caring and excellent pediatrician. Do people think that child molesters act a certain way? Do they have a certain look, where you can tell that the person is a child molester? For Lydia to accuse three, different girls of making up a story tells me she has no credibility. Yes, let’s dismiss detailed descriptions of what three, different people say. When multiple people provide similar accounts–you have to wonder why someone would doubt these statements.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Andrea Falls ()
Date: July 15, 2011 03:58PM

Quit trash talking and leave the families involved to the deal with this in the court system. If you truly support one side or the other get assist them in private.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Susan Alexandria ()
Date: July 15, 2011 04:19PM

I agree with Lisa. Lydia’s statement is foolish.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Mel Watson ()
Date: July 15, 2011 04:19PM

Yes, innocent until proven guilty. BUT, the testimony thus far, and I suspect the DNA evidence, is quite persuasive. Keep in mind the judge said no to visiting his own children. If this was one victim, then yes, maybe we should be suspicious. But this was multiple victims. It would be quite a stretch, if not ridiculous, to claim some sort of conspiracy for political or other reasons. Again, do we really think this some sort of vast right-wing, anti-CBC conspiracy?

If Mr. Gardner is guilty which he knows (unless he is simply mentally incompent and surely needs help), he needs to take a plea deal, take a lengthy prison sentence, and spare the victims and City from further heartache, cost, and get this behind everyone. If not, what is the strategy, put the victims on trial claiming this was some sort of bizarre consensual thing….claiming some sort of “misundertanding”… get real. Oh yea, don’t forget about posssibility of putting the City of Falls Church Police on trial too for their investigative process. Come on folks – - get out of denial mode. Yes, I hate to break the news to some, but yes, this can happen in the City of Falls Church.

Note that Brian O’Connor, former Mayor and Mr. Gardner’s attorney has withdrawn from the case. Besides this case probably being above his pay-grade, he may have lost confidence in his client when he looked at the case further and said I’m out of here.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Dave Phelps ()
Date: July 15, 2011 04:56PM

If he is guilty of the horrid crime I do hope he cops a plea in order to save not only the abused children the trial process, but also his own family. He could impoverish his own wife and children with a serious defense. Again, if he is guilty and I certainly don’t know — only he and the girls really know, that is until or unless the DNA evidence convicts him.

Ugly stuff, this.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: mel watson ()
Date: July 15, 2011 05:05PM

Another point is let’s get out of this mode of wringing our hands about lost political careers. Not sure how effective or influential either of the Garders were…….but that should be the least of our concerns….plus no one is that important and everyone can be replaced.

Just curious and maybe I missed it….has it been reported where Mrs. Gardner was at the time of the incidents?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Lisa Smith ()
Date: July 15, 2011 05:06PM

Andrea, this is a public website. If you don’t want to read other people’s opinions on the facts, guess what? You can click the “x” in the upper right-hand corner of your screen. Don’t tell me what I can and cannot comment on. Your post doesn’t even make sense. Your last sentence is missing words.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ellen McRae ()
Date: July 15, 2011 05:07PM

Regarding Lydia’s comment and the need for “real, definitive evidence”: child molesters rarely videotape themselves and there may not be any DNA evidence here. Three separate girls went independently to their parents and separately to the authorities to report their stories. Yes, I uphold the principle of innocent until proven guilty but I do hope that this new attorney is not allowed to pit his vast legal experience against three ten year old girls.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Anonymous in DC ()
Date: July 15, 2011 05:08PM

False accusations by children is actually more common than most people would think. I am a defense attorney and former prosecutor and I can tell you that many innocent people are accused on a daily basis- of horrific crimes. However, the general public only knows what they see on TV. Just because a judge denied to modify conditions of bail so Mr. Gardner could see his children does not mean anything. It only means this is a highly publicized case and the Judge is protecting herself. I know that may be a hard pill to swallow for some people but its the truth. People jumping to conclusions based on Mr. Gardner’s guilt should be ashamed of themselves. Just because they took DNA evidence means nothing either. In fact, the reason the prosecution has not released results of the DNA test actually speak more to Gardner’s innocence than to his guilt. If any of you have any doubts take a look at a case called Norfolk 4. Four people were wrongly convicted of a brutal rape….despite the fact that the prosecution already had a suspect in custody and who’s DNA matched.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: draghisballsthroughlava ()
Date: July 15, 2011 05:12PM

Anonymous in DC Wrote:
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> False accusations by children is actually more
> common than most people would think. I am a
> defense attorney and former prosecutor and I can
> tell you that many innocent people are accused on
> a daily basis- of horrific crimes.

And many people commit horrific crimes on a daily basis.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Lisa Smith ()
Date: July 15, 2011 05:16PM

People jumping to conclusions based on Mr. Gardner’s guilt should be ashamed of themselves.

Oh brother. *raises hand* I am jumping to conclusions. I should be ashamed of myself? Give me a break. I will make whatever judgments I see fit based on the facts I read/hear/see. I am also willing to change my mind if I read/hear/see more facts. I think this is human nature. I am a lawyer as well, Mr. Anonymous, and I have no problem with this tactic that I take. When Mike was walking with his attorney on the TV footage, he would not look up at the camera. To me, that exuded guilt. Could I be wrong? Sure, but I think I have a good sense of body language. If someone is wrongfully accused, they tend to WANT people to see them so that they can prove that these allegations are bogus. I think he is guilty, but I’ll wait and see what additional facts come to light.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: DudleyMcDonald ()
Date: July 15, 2011 05:16PM

Tragic situation has even reached to Richmond news. (Political angle, of course.)

I certainly hope for all concerned this goes smoothly and swiftly.

Thoughts with all concerned.

Innocent until proven not so.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Think about this ()
Date: July 15, 2011 06:15PM

How many nine year old girls could make up a story of sexual abuse. What was described is not something a nine year old would even know about.

If the three stories sound the same and it all happened when they were sleeping over at his house he is in deep shit.

Plus he may have been abusing his daughter too.

Before you jump all over me just remember you never really know someone.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: July 17, 2011 08:11AM

@Think about this

+1

cant believe that ppl are actually thinking that 9 yr olds are being some sorta political con artists.............

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Mr. Know-it-all ()
Date: July 17, 2011 11:24AM

Did you ever take any composition courses at GMU? You really don't write well at all.


Lydia Zache Wrote:
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> I am a personal friend of Michael Gardner we went
> to george mason university together where he
> served as student government president and I was
> on the senate. Michael is a man who is of
> integrity and virtue he loves his family and his
> community and I find it difficult to believe such
> allegations in reference to him.
> I say he is innocent until proven guilty. It seems
> to me this could be a gross exaggeration of some
> sort or conspiracy or imagination on the part of
> the children involved. Michael was an integral
> part of the falls church community who cared and I
> believe he deserves more support and the benefit
> of the doubt until there is some real definitive
> evidence which can prove otherwise.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: seller ()
Date: July 18, 2011 11:07AM

Lydia Zache Wrote:
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> I am a personal friend of Michael Gardner we went
> to george mason university together where he
> served as student government president and I was
> on the senate. Michael is a man who is of
> integrity and virtue he loves his family and his
> community and I find it difficult to believe such
> allegations in reference to him.
> I say he is innocent until proven guilty. It seems
> to me this could be a gross exaggeration of some
> sort or conspiracy or imagination on the part of
> the children involved. Michael was an integral
> part of the falls church community who cared and I
> believe he deserves more support and the benefit
> of the doubt until there is some real definitive
> evidence which can prove otherwise.

Well, I certainly know which real estate agent I will NOT be using during my next transaction.

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Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: July 20, 2011 06:51AM

Hello, out there ... unfortunately I'm deeply involved with this matter, which is dreadful,as I never thought I'd be going through something like this. I can appreciate all of the Gardner family's long-time friends and neighbors doing their best to support the family, particularly since their kids are not the victims in this case. Rest assured, there are many people who thought they knew the family and will always regret putting their trust in the defendant (and, by association, his wife).

As with many of you, I've been involved with the justice/court system for many years and still believe in "innocent until proven guilty" -- the system worked the way it's supposed to for Casey Anthony, even though a lot of people are sure she's guilty. Over the years, one thing I've seen time and again is that the court system is about the law, not about justice. Hopefully justice will prevail here, but it's in Mr. Gardner's interest to fight this to the end, so I expect no reasonableness for the victims' sake.

I've read the various posts re: this matter, but I'm saddened to see some of the more argumentative comments (as opposed to straight opinions). Of course, the beauty of our country is that people can say whatever however, but it would be gratifying to the victims' families for comments to be made without getting personal. Not that I'm trying to curb anyone's liberties ...

There are a number of troubling details about this case, as with so many others, including how the defense will be coming at these young kids. My biggest disappointment, to date, is the manner in which the Falls Church paper has reported on the "story." I understand that Mr. Gardner has written for the paper, and that both he and his wife are deeply entrenched in the political scene. However, leaving out significant (unidentifying) details of the investigation that were available to them, softening the description of the specific allegations in court, and devoting more time/space to the judge's record than the testimony of the victims at the recent hearing, seems inequitable somehow.

Worse things happen to little kids every day and it really could have been much worse, but the victims and their families are going through a terrible ordeal as it is. The disgusting details will probably emerge at some point, but in the interest of fairness, it would be great to see Mr. and Mrs. Gardner's most ardent supporters express some degree of concern for the "alleged" victims, too -- even under their breath, as an afterthought maybe. Wishful thinking, I know.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: worse things happen????? ()
Date: July 20, 2011 09:57AM

His kids are victims too. We do not know if he has done this before or to his own daughter. You never really know someone.

To say worse things can happen to a little girl is stupid. I guess since he did not rape them it is OK what he did?

You have no common sense.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: J.D. Walker ()
Date: July 20, 2011 10:56AM

While I agree that any adult who molests children needs to be strung up, just because someone making an accusation is a child doesn't make the accusation automatically true.

The man is innocent until proven guilty, and if he truly believes himself to be innocent of the crime, then he owes it to NO ONE to just roll over and accept a plea bargain and conviction.

In my distant past, I was falsely accused of rape (not of a child, thank God). Evidence later exonerated me, but I lost many friends over it, especially due to my refusal to admit guilt (because I wasn't guilty).

After the evidence exonerated me and fingered the actual rapist, I went back to one such person and asked if they had anything they wanted to say to me. They did not. Total lack of remorse over a rush to judgement.

That's exactly what I'm seeing here.

What I'm also seeing, is that one person on here already indicated they will decline to use the professional services of someone holding an opinion they don't like. That is immature in the extreme, in the same way a while back of the lady who demanded child trick-or-treaters disclose who their parents voted for, and if she didn't like the answer, they didn't get candy.

WTF??

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Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: July 20, 2011 05:41PM

Sorry to have offended "worse things can happen?????". I tried to be very careful not to suggest that the plight of these victims was on par with those who have either lost their lives or suffered a violent attack. Apparently my lack of common sense got in the way. I'm not aware of anyone, including me, suggesting that the "alleged" activities were ok -- that's just an ignorant comment. It's insightful and informative responses such as these that keep the dialogue constructive ... thanks for sharing.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: blue eyed blonde ()
Date: July 20, 2011 07:02PM

Gardner Indicted on Three Counts
By FALLS CHURCH TIMES STAFF

July 20, 2011

Michael Gardner has been indicted on two counts of aggravated sexual battery and one count of object sexual penetration. The Grand Jury of the Arlington Circuit Court handed down the indictments on Monday, July 18.

Mr. Gardner is due in Court tomorrow morning. The judge will set a trial date at that time.


Wow - I dated Mike ( seriously) in high school) - I am shocked. I am praying for all those involved in this case - especially the sweet children (alleged victims and his own) that will be effected by this tragedy.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Thank you! ()
Date: July 20, 2011 07:16PM

Nine year old girls do not make this stuff up! How would they even know about such things unless someone took advantage of them.

We must protect those who come forward since other kids may hear about this and feel like they should hide being abused since an adult may not believe them.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: No Kidding ()
Date: July 20, 2011 07:22PM

Thank you! Wrote:
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> ... How would they even know about such things unless
> someone took advantage of them...

Oh brother.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Question?? ()
Date: July 20, 2011 07:29PM

Is his wife standing behind him?

She should run like the wind and protect her kids first and foremost.

I would rather be wrong and protect my kids then be right and ruin their lives forever!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: AL:JK:FSDKLJFDSJKLSFLJKSDKLF ()
Date: July 20, 2011 07:40PM

Lydia Zache Wrote:
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> I am a personal friend of Michael Gardner we went
> to george mason university together where he
> served as student government president and I was
> on the senate. Michael is a man who is of
> integrity and virtue he loves his family and his
> community and I find it difficult to believe such
> allegations in reference to him.
> I say he is innocent until proven guilty. It seems
> to me this could be a gross exaggeration of some
> sort or conspiracy or imagination on the part of
> the children involved. Michael was an integral
> part of the falls church community who cared and I
> believe he deserves more support and the benefit
> of the doubt until there is some real definitive
> evidence which can prove otherwise.


Stupid democrats

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: blue eyed blonde ()
Date: July 20, 2011 08:34PM

Funny thing - when I knew him he was a serious Repub - gave all those Liberals such grief. He has changed quite a bit on several levels! Obviously we all do - hopefully most for the better.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: To:Blue eyed blond ()
Date: July 20, 2011 09:22PM

You must be friends with Liz.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Blue Eyed Blonde ()
Date: July 21, 2011 11:19AM

To:Blue eyed blond Wrote:
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> You must be friends with Liz.


No, not sure who Liz is.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: J.D. Walker ()
Date: July 21, 2011 02:46PM

Question?? Wrote:
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> Is his wife standing behind him?
>
> She should run like the wind and protect her kids
> first and foremost.
>
> I would rather be wrong and protect my kids then
> be right and ruin their lives forever!


And what if you were wrong? Congratulations, you've just flushed your marriage down the toilet.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: before that ()
Date: July 21, 2011 02:50PM

J.D. Walker Wrote:
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> Question?? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is his wife standing behind him?
> >
> > She should run like the wind and protect her
> kids
> > first and foremost.
> >
> > I would rather be wrong and protect my kids
> then
> > be right and ruin their lives forever!
>
>
> And what if you were wrong? Congratulations,
> you've just flushed your marriage down the toilet.

Call me crazy, but I think he flushed his marriage down the toilet when he molested little girls.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: J.D. Walker ()
Date: July 21, 2011 03:08PM

before that Wrote:
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> J.D. Walker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Question?? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Is his wife standing behind him?
> > >
> > > She should run like the wind and protect her
> > kids
> > > first and foremost.
> > >
> > > I would rather be wrong and protect my kids
> > then
> > > be right and ruin their lives forever!
> >
> >
> > And what if you were wrong? Congratulations,
> > you've just flushed your marriage down the
> toilet.
>
> Call me crazy, but I think he flushed his marriage
> down the toilet when he molested little girls.


So...guilty unless proven innocent eh? And you missed the point. What if it does happen to Question, and she is wrong, and her husband is later proven innocent???

I know that if I were falsely accused of something heinous like this, and my wife didn't stand behind me, it would be over.

Bottom line, just because an accusation is made doesn't automatically make it true. Ask Sean Lannigan.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: lessons for every guy ()
Date: July 21, 2011 03:15PM

No guy should ever be alone with someone else's kid. I have no clue on the facts of this case, but if you don't want to get accused, don't ever put yourself in that circumstance. It's sad, but it's the world we live in.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: J.D. Walker ()
Date: July 21, 2011 03:38PM

lessons for every guy Wrote:
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> No guy should ever be alone with someone else's
> kid. I have no clue on the facts of this case,
> but if you don't want to get accused, don't ever
> put yourself in that circumstance. It's sad, but
> it's the world we live in.


It is very sad, but I can't argue with this assertion. It's why I'll never ever be an elementary school teacher, even though that's been a dream of mine.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: no more sleep overs! ()
Date: July 21, 2011 03:39PM

I hate sleep overs. The next day you pay for with the kids all being crabby and shit. Plus now that this has happened it just adds to list.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: before that ()
Date: July 21, 2011 03:47PM

J.D. Walker Wrote:
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> before that Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > J.D. Walker Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Question?? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Is his wife standing behind him?
> > > >
> > > > She should run like the wind and protect
> her
> > > kids
> > > > first and foremost.
> > > >
> > > > I would rather be wrong and protect my kids
> > > then
> > > > be right and ruin their lives forever!
> > >
> > >
> > > And what if you were wrong? Congratulations,
> > > you've just flushed your marriage down the
> > toilet.
> >
> > Call me crazy, but I think he flushed his
> marriage
> > down the toilet when he molested little girls.
>
>
> So...guilty unless proven innocent eh? And you
> missed the point. What if it does happen to
> Question, and she is wrong, and her husband is
> later proven innocent???
>
> I know that if I were falsely accused of something
> heinous like this, and my wife didn't stand behind
> me, it would be over.
>
> Bottom line, just because an accusation is made
> doesn't automatically make it true. Ask Sean
> Lannigan.


Maybe I'll just ask Gardner's victims. Yes, that is victims with an "s" as in they are plural.

And no, I did not miss the point.

I don't need a trial to know he is guilty.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: guilty period huh ()
Date: July 21, 2011 06:47PM

before that Wrote:
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> I don't need a trial to know he is guilty.

Do you know what a "leading question" is? Do you know the type of questions untrained and undisciplined questioners ask? Do you know the ramifications of such questions when asking kids them?

Example: You are visibly upset. You are having ice cream with your kid to try to get through to her. You say "That's good, isn't it?". How do you think your kid will respond? Do you think your kid would DARE to say "No, I don't like it. I like more chocolate!". Really?

Example 2: You are visibly upset. YOu ask your kid "Did he touch you right here?". Your kid says "No." You ask again "Are you sure, dear. Are you sure he didn't touch you right here?".

Ad nauseum.

Parents and undisciplined other adults are death to real facts.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: July 21, 2011 07:26PM

@guilty - um, yr example 1 makes no sense. why would you be "having ice cream with your kid to try to get through to her?" Why would you ask "That's good, isn't it?" in a visbly upset moment? I mean wouldnt you be more focused on calming yrself down from whatever it is that is making you upset? Either way, wouldnt you know what type of icecream yr kid liked?

example 2 : if you can compare a kid eating to a kid getting "touched"................then you gots the "issues", pedobear. Cause no adult is normally asking the question "Did he touch you right here?" unless there was a reason too - trained pros usually are involved in asking the kids about "example 2" level questions, such as in this current case

yr examples make as much sense as J.D. Walker & lessons for every guy posts up there - any guy can be left alone with a little kid as long as.............and pay attention now, cause this is the kicker here....... THE GUY DOESNT TRY TO MOLEST THE KID!! Little kids are not manipulative little liars so badly that the even sexual assualts. High school, yeah maybe - but little 10 yr olds, I DONT FUCKING THINK SO!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: ComeOn GetOverWithIt ()
Date: September 19, 2011 02:59PM

Michael Gardner Trial Delayed Until January 2012
By FALLS CHURCH TIMES STAFF
http://fallschurchtimes.com/30556/michael-gardner-trial-delayed-until-january-2012/

September 19, 2011

The trial of Michael Gardner has been delayed until January 23, 2012, according to a report by Channel 7 News. The continuance was granted this morning in Arlington Circuit Court.

Gardner was scheduled to face a jury trial beginning on October 3 for felony sexual abuse charges involving three young girls. Last month the Court granted a prosecution motion to try the charges together, rather than separately.

Gardner is accused of aggravated sexual battery and object sexual penetration. The events allegedly occured on the night of June 18, when two of the girls attended a slumber party at the Gardner family home, and on the night of June 16, when the third girl slept over at the house.

Gardner was arrested by Falls Church City police on June 22 and released the following day on $50,000 bond. He was indicted by the Grand Jury on July 18.

----------------------------------------------------
Gardner Sex Assault Trial Delayed Until January
By FCNP.com
http://www.fcnp.com/news/10123-gardner-sex-assault-trial-delayed-until-january.html

Monday, September 19 2011 01:15:56 PM

Michael Gardner, Falls Church City activist and husband of former mayor and current City Council member Robin Gardner, was granted a trial delay in a court hearing today that moved the date of his jury trial from Oct. 3 to Jan. 23, 2012.

Gardner is charged with committing two felony acts of aggravated sexual battery and one act of object sexual penetration. The alleged victims are three 9- and 10-year-old girls who attended sleepovers at Gardner's house this past June.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: jace miller ()
Date: September 27, 2011 10:07PM

dude that isnt even him in the picture get your facts straight.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: urdone ()
Date: September 29, 2011 10:08PM

ComeOn GetOverWithIt Wrote:
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> Michael Gardner Trial Delayed Until January 2012
> By FALLS CHURCH TIMES STAFF
> http://fallschurchtimes.com/30556/michael-gardner-
> trial-delayed-until-january-2012/
>
> September 19, 2011
>
> The trial of Michael Gardner has been delayed
> until January 23, 2012, according to a report by
> Channel 7 News. The continuance was granted this
> morning in Arlington Circuit Court.
>
> Gardner was scheduled to face a jury trial
> beginning on October 3 for felony sexual abuse
> charges involving three young girls. Last month
> the Court granted a prosecution motion to try the
> charges together, rather than separately.
>
> Gardner is accused of aggravated sexual battery
> and object sexual penetration. The events
> allegedly occured on the night of June 18, when
> two of the girls attended a slumber party at the
> Gardner family home, and on the night of June 16,
> when the third girl slept over at the house.
>
> Gardner was arrested by Falls Church City police
> on June 22 and released the following day on
> $50,000 bond. He was indicted by the Grand Jury
> on July 18.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> --
> Gardner Sex Assault Trial Delayed Until January
>
> By FCNP.com
> http://www.fcnp.com/news/10123-gardner-sex-assault
> -trial-delayed-until-january.html
>
> Monday, September 19 2011 01:15:56 PM
>
> Michael Gardner, Falls Church City activist and
> husband of former mayor and current City Council
> member Robin Gardner, was granted a trial delay in
> a court hearing today that moved the date of his
> jury trial from Oct. 3 to Jan. 23, 2012.
>
> Gardner is charged with committing two felony acts
> of aggravated sexual battery and one act of object
> sexual penetration. The alleged victims are three
> 9- and 10-year-old girls who attended sleepovers
> at Gardner's house this past June.

Delaying the inevitable

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Current Picture ()
Date: September 29, 2011 10:17PM

jace miller Wrote:
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> dude that isnt even him in the picture get your
> facts straight.

This is a picture of him:


Attachments:
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 30, 2011 08:21AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Two Cents ()
Date: September 30, 2011 09:20AM

He's guilty as sin.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: CumOn: He Did Get It Over With ()
Date: October 12, 2011 09:26AM

http://wusa9.com/news/article/170697/373/Sperm-Found-On-Girls-Pajamas-In-Child-Molestation-Case
7:55am Oct 12, 2011


ARLINGTON, Va. (WUSA) - Lab tests which analyzed DNA from the alleged victims and suspect in a child molestation case show sperm was found on one of the little girl's pajama bottoms, according to Arlington County Court officials.

Because the lab results contain the names of the young victims, the court would not release those documents, but a deputy clerk of the court did read them WUSA's Peggy Fox.

In June of 2011, three little girls, two were ten years old and one was nine, accused their friend's father, Michael Gardner, of molesting them.

The girls told the court in a probably cause hearing that while they were at sleepovers at the Gardner's Falls Church house, Mr. Gardner opened their sleeping bags and touched their private parts. Charges include aggravated sexual battery and animate object penetration.

The lab tested several items including one of the girl's underpants where the scientists found a DNA profile foreign to the victim. That means someone else's DNA was found on the girl.

The lab found that Michael Gardner cannot be eliminated as the person who left that DNA. It also determined the odds of it being another Caucasian male, are one in 20.7 quadrillion.

Specifically, Gardner's DNA profile is 20.7 quadrillion times more probable than in a coincidental match with unrelated Caucasian.

In a sample from another girl's pajama bottoms, sperm was found in the internal crotch area and in a stain on the left leg.

Again, the lab found DNA results do not eliminate Michael Gardner for a match. In this case, the lab determined that the odds of it being another Caucasian male are one in 38- hundred.
Specifically, 3,860 times more probable than a coincidental match of an unrelated caucasian person.

Gardner was arrested by Falls Church City police on June 22 and was indicted by the Grand Jury on July 18. His trial has been delayed until January 23, 2012. The case has been moved from the small Falls Church court system to Arlington County.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: puthisballsinawoodchipper ()
Date: October 12, 2011 09:48AM

guilty period huh Wrote:
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> before that Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I don't need a trial to know he is guilty.
>
> Do you know what a "leading question" is? Do you
> know the type of questions untrained and
> undisciplined questioners ask? Do you know the
> ramifications of such questions when asking kids
> them?
>
> Example: You are visibly upset. You are having ice
> cream with your kid to try to get through to her.
> You say "That's good, isn't it?". How do you think
> your kid will respond? Do you think your kid would
> DARE to say "No, I don't like it. I like more
> chocolate!". Really?
>
> Example 2: You are visibly upset. YOu ask your kid
> "Did he touch you right here?". Your kid says
> "No." You ask again "Are you sure, dear. Are you
> sure he didn't touch you right here?".
>
> Ad nauseum.
>
> Parents and undisciplined other adults are death
> to real facts.

I know what DNA is and I know what a quadrillion is. Again, no need for a trial to know he is guilty.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: ComeOn ()
Date: October 18, 2011 10:20PM

http://arlington.wusa9.com/news/news/76087-dna-evidence-arlington-child-molestation-case

DNA Evidence In Arlington Child Molestation Case
Monday, October 17th, 2011, 12:00pm


This story is updated with additional information from the Arlington County Circuit Court Clerk. Our earlier version did not include information that some of the DNA profiles from some of the samples did eliminate Michael A. Gardner as a contributor.



ARLINGTON COUNTY, Va. (WUSA) - In lab tests, which analyzed DNA from the alleged victims and suspect in a child molestation case, one of the substances found was sperm, according to Arlington County Court officials reading the results of lab tests.

Because the lab results contain the names of the young victims, the court would not release those documents, but both Arlington County Circuit Court Clerk Paul Ferguson and Deputy Clerk Nela Hargrove read them to WUSA's Peggy Fox.

In June of 2011, three little girls, two who were ten years old and one who was nine, accused their friend's father, Michael Gardner, of molesting them.

The girls told the court in a probable cause hearing that while they were at sleepovers at the Gardner's Falls Church house, Mr. Gardner opened their sleeping bags and touched their private parts. Charges include aggravated sexual battery and animate object penetration.

In the documents from the lab, Hargrove read that the lab received several items to examine:
Item # 1: The physical evidence recovery kits;
Item #4: an alleged victim's underpants;
Item #6: an alleged victim's pajama pants;
Item #7: another alleged victim's pajama pants;
Item #9: buccal (cheek) swab from Michael A. Gardner;
Item # 10: swab from another alleged victim.

Hargrove read that on Item 4, "A DNA profile foreign to the alleged victim was developed of interior crotch of the underpants and Michael Gardner cannot be eliminated as a contributor." Hargrove read "Michael Gardner's DNA profile is 20.7 quadrillion times more probable than in a coincidental match with an unrelated Caucasian."

An expert in forensic science explained that those numbers mean that the odds of the DNA profile matching to another Caucasian male, are one in 20.7 quadrillion.

Hargrove read that on Item 7, "spermatozoa were identified on a stained area on interior crotch and spermatozoa were identified in a stain on the exterior left leg and from front hem of pajama pants."

Hargrove read from the final portion under Item 7, "Based on these results, a match between the pajama pants, Item 7, and Michael A. Gardner, Item 9, is 3.86 thousand times more probable than a coincidental match to an unrelated Caucasian person."

Hargrove also read that Michael Gardner is eliminated as a contributor from some of the DNA profiles collected from Item 7, specifically, from "the sperm fraction from a representative sample of the stained area on the interior crotch of the pajama pants" and "the interior waistband of the pajama pants."

But also concerning Item 7, Hargrove read that according to a "a DNA mixture profile foreign to the victim developed from an exterior pelvic area of the pajama pants, Michael A. Gardner cannot be eliminated as a contributor."

In more detail, here is what Ferguson read on the findings of the sperm in Item 7:

"A DNA mixture profile foreign to victim was developed from the sperm fraction from a representative sample of the stained area on the interior crotch of the Pajama pants. Michael Gardner, the alleged victim and other alleged victim are eliminated as contributors to this foreign DNA profile. Due to the limited information obtained, the minor profile developed from this mixture is not suitable for comparison.

No DNA typing results were developed from the sperm fraction of the stain on the exterior left leg from hem and a DNA profile of no value was developed from the non-sperm fraction of this sample. Due to the limited information obtained, this profile is not suitable for comparison.

A DNA a profile of limited value and foreign to alleged victim was developed from a portion of the interior waistband of the pjs pants. Michael A Gardner victim and victim are eliminated as contributors of this foreign DNA profile. This profile may be suitable for comparison. Due to the limited information obtained, it is not suitable for searching again the VA DNA data bank or submission to the national DNA data bank.
A DNA profile attributed to the alleged victim is also present in the sample ."

"A DNA mixture profile of limited value and foreign to alleged victim was developed from the exterior pelvic area of the pajama pants. Michael Gardner cannot be eliminated as a contributor as their foreign mixture profile. The alleged victim and the other alleged victim are eliminated to this foreign DNA mixture profile. A DNA profile attributed alleged victim is also present in this sample.

The statistical analysis regarding this DNA mixture profile will be the subject of a separate report Although suitable for comparison, due to the unknown number of potential contributors, and the complex nature of this mixture profile, it is not suitable for searching again the VA DNA databank or submission to the Nat. DNA databank. Additional DNA comparisons can be conducted following the submission of two buccal (Cheek) swabs from another person of interest to the lab."

Gardner was arrested by Falls Church City police on June 22 and was indicted by the Grand Jury on July 18. His trial has been delayed until January 23, 2012. The case has been moved from the small Falls Church court system to Arlington County.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 4h4EG ()
Date: October 19, 2011 12:40AM

ComeOn Wrote:
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> http://arlington.wusa9.com/news/news/76087-dna-evi
> dence-arlington-child-molestation-case
>
> DNA Evidence In Arlington Child Molestation Case
> Monday, October 17th, 2011, 12:00pm
>
>
> This story is updated with additional information
> from the Arlington County Circuit Court Clerk. Our
> earlier version did not include information that
> some of the DNA profiles from some of the samples
> did eliminate Michael A. Gardner as a contributor.
>
>
>
>
> ARLINGTON COUNTY, Va. (WUSA) - In lab tests, which
> analyzed DNA from the alleged victims and suspect
> in a child molestation case, one of the substances
> found was sperm, according to Arlington County
> Court officials reading the results of lab tests.
>
>
> Because the lab results contain the names of the
> young victims, the court would not release those
> documents, but both Arlington County Circuit Court
> Clerk Paul Ferguson and Deputy Clerk Nela Hargrove
> read them to WUSA's Peggy Fox.
>
> In June of 2011, three little girls, two who were
> ten years old and one who was nine, accused their
> friend's father, Michael Gardner, of molesting
> them.
>
> The girls told the court in a probable cause
> hearing that while they were at sleepovers at the
> Gardner's Falls Church house, Mr. Gardner opened
> their sleeping bags and touched their private
> parts. Charges include aggravated sexual battery
> and animate object penetration.
>
> In the documents from the lab, Hargrove read that
> the lab received several items to examine:
> Item # 1: The physical evidence recovery kits;
> Item #4: an alleged victim's underpants;
> Item #6: an alleged victim's pajama pants;
> Item #7: another alleged victim's pajama pants;
> Item #9: buccal (cheek) swab from Michael A.
> Gardner;
> Item # 10: swab from another alleged victim.


>
> Hargrove also read that Michael Gardner is
> eliminated as a contributor from some of the DNA
> profiles collected from Item 7, specifically, from
> "the sperm fraction from a representative sample
> of the stained area on the interior crotch of the
> pajama pants" and "the interior waistband of the
> pajama pants."
>


Am I reading it correctly that the sperm on item 7 cannot be linked to Gardner? Does that mean there was another male involved?? WTF?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Interesting ()
Date: October 19, 2011 11:19AM

4h4EG Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ComeOn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> http://arlington.wusa9.com/news/news/76087-dna-evi
>
> > dence-arlington-child-molestation-case
> >
> > DNA Evidence In Arlington Child Molestation Case
>
> > Monday, October 17th, 2011, 12:00pm
> >
> >
> > This story is updated with additional
> information
> > from the Arlington County Circuit Court Clerk.
> Our
> > earlier version did not include information
> that
> > some of the DNA profiles from some of the
> samples
> > did eliminate Michael A. Gardner as a
> contributor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ARLINGTON COUNTY, Va. (WUSA) - In lab tests,
> which
> > analyzed DNA from the alleged victims and
> suspect
> > in a child molestation case, one of the
> substances
> > found was sperm, according to Arlington County
> > Court officials reading the results of lab
> tests.
> >
> >
> > Because the lab results contain the names of
> the
> > young victims, the court would not release
> those
> > documents, but both Arlington County Circuit
> Court
> > Clerk Paul Ferguson and Deputy Clerk Nela
> Hargrove
> > read them to WUSA's Peggy Fox.
> >
> > In June of 2011, three little girls, two who
> were
> > ten years old and one who was nine, accused
> their
> > friend's father, Michael Gardner, of molesting
> > them.
> >
> > The girls told the court in a probable cause
> > hearing that while they were at sleepovers at
> the
> > Gardner's Falls Church house, Mr. Gardner
> opened
> > their sleeping bags and touched their private
> > parts. Charges include aggravated sexual
> battery
> > and animate object penetration.
> >
> > In the documents from the lab, Hargrove read
> that
> > the lab received several items to examine:
> > Item # 1: The physical evidence recovery kits;
> > Item #4: an alleged victim's underpants;
> > Item #6: an alleged victim's pajama pants;
> > Item #7: another alleged victim's pajama pants;
> > Item #9: buccal (cheek) swab from Michael A.
> > Gardner;
> > Item # 10: swab from another alleged victim.
>
>
> >
> > Hargrove also read that Michael Gardner is
> > eliminated as a contributor from some of the
> DNA
> > profiles collected from Item 7, specifically,
> from
> > "the sperm fraction from a representative
> sample
> > of the stained area on the interior crotch of
> the
> > pajama pants" and "the interior waistband of
> the
> > pajama pants."
> >
>
>
> Am I reading it correctly that the sperm on item 7
> cannot be linked to Gardner? Does that mean there
> was another male involved?? WTF?

As I understand it, the DNA seems to be his, but has not been completely ruled out on Item #7.

"A DNA mixture profile of limited value and foreign to alleged victim was developed from the exterior pelvic area of the pajama pants. Michael Gardner cannot be eliminated as a contributor as their foreign mixture profile. The alleged victim and the other alleged victim are eliminated to this foreign DNA mixture profile. A DNA profile attributed alleged victim is also present in this sample.

The statistical analysis regarding this DNA mixture profile will be the subject of a separate report Although suitable for comparison, due to the unknown number of potential contributors, and the complex nature of this mixture profile, it is not suitable for searching again the VA DNA databank or submission to the Nat. DNA databank. Additional DNA comparisons can be conducted following the submission of two buccal (Cheek) swabs from another person of interest to the lab."

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: His wife is scum too ()
Date: October 19, 2011 11:54AM

Why is his wife staying with him? She is just as sick as he is. If convicted can he still have contact with his daughter when he gets out of prison?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: KK ()
Date: October 19, 2011 12:16PM

Wait a minute....

Additional DNA comparisons can be conducted following the submission of two buccal (Cheek) swabs from another person of interest to the lab."


What is this "another person of interest"? If it was a sleepover, don't tell me there was yet another person there. If that's the case then this is even more horrible!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Shower Time ()
Date: October 19, 2011 04:20PM

Michael Gardner is going away for a long time....that sick fuck. Hey Michael - don't drop the soap!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: concerned child ()
Date: October 19, 2011 04:47PM

is he out on bail?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: ComeOn ()
Date: October 19, 2011 09:59PM

From the comments at http://fallschurchtimes.com/30925/new-development-in-michael-gardner-case/#comments:

"Does anyone know _for sure_ what changed about Mike’s parole agreement? I never saw Mike between June and September and never saw both family cars at the residence, but since September he has been regularly visiting his home for long periods of time. I reside next door so it’s difficult to not to notice when both the van and the Mercedes are in the drive. Without the community knowing the agreement we can’t alert authorities of violating activities…"

"Modified — he can see his kids provided wife with him."

from which I conclude he's out on bail and he wasn't allowed to see his own children in even a supervised situation until recently.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: More Charges ()
Date: October 24, 2011 02:52PM

The Arlington Grand Jury has indicted Michael Gardner on a third count of aggravated sexual battery. The indictment was filed Monday and was the subject of a hearing today in Circuit Court.

Gardner was indicted in July on one count of object penetration and two counts of aggravated sexual battery involving three girls in two separate incidents at his home in June. The latest charge does not involve a fourth girl.

Trial on all counts is scheduled to begin on January 23, 2012 and is expected to last four days.

The trial originally had been scheduled to begin October 3 but was delayed to allow for the completion of DNA testing. Gardner’s attorney has disputed a recent WUSA-TV report on the test results.

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Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Yet Another Concerned Parent ()
Date: October 27, 2011 05:46PM

I believe his newfound visitation is no more than twice a week, supervised, for two hours at a time, though the police/prosecuter could say for sure. It would be for the greater good if "Come On" could report visits to Detective Sonja Richardson, FCPD, at 703-241-5053 (her number was in the initial news report).

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: smashihisballswithahammer ()
Date: December 23, 2011 09:22AM

At a hearing in the Arlington Circuit Court Tuesday on a motion by Peter Greenspun, the attorney representing Falls Church resident Michael Gardner, to dismiss the charges against his client, Judge Joan Alper denied the motion and sealed its lengthy contents. Gardner is charged with three felony counts of aggravated sexual assault against three girls aged 10-11 in incidents that allegedly took place in his home last June.

Due to the need to investigate potentially exculpatory evidence presented in the motion to dismiss, the date for Gardner's trial was rescheduled from mid-January to the week of April 23, 2012. However, Judge Alper provided Gardner with more lenient terms of his bail. Greenspun pointed out to the judge Tuesday that parents of two of the alleged victims had been unwilling to comply with a Nov. 3 court order to provide key information until last weekend, when they learned of Tuesday's hearing. Prosecuting Commonwealth Attorney Nicole Wittman, from Loudoun County, acknowledged in court that DNA test results indicated that semen found on the clothing of one of the alleged victims was not Gardner's.

It is expected that DNA tests being conducted by the state on the identification of the person(s) associated with semen in question will be announced within a month.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: ynFxG ()
Date: December 23, 2011 08:40PM

"...DNA test results indicated that semen found on the clothing of one of the alleged victims was not Gardner's. "
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Whatever truly happened, it can not be good.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: gardner gropes ()
Date: January 23, 2012 12:48PM

smashihisballswithahammer Wrote:
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> It is expected that DNA tests being conducted by
> the state on the identification of the person(s)
> associated with semen in question will be
> announced within a month.


It has been a month. Any news on this? I can't seem to find any.

The trial was supposed to start today until a continuance was granted.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: disgusted ()
Date: January 23, 2012 04:03PM

Another continuance? What is the new date?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: April 23rd 2012 ()
Date: January 23, 2012 04:17PM

Lock up your daughter's in FC.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: ComeOn ()
Date: January 23, 2012 05:54PM

The text posted on Dec 23, 2011 by smashihisballswithahammer is from http://www.fcnp.com/news/10762-motion-for-dismissal-denied-in-gardner-case-.html. This article is titled

Motion for Dismissal Denied in Gardner Case
By FCNP.com
Wednesday, December 21 2011 06:06:46 PM

It includes the information "...the date for Gardner's trial was rescheduled from mid-January to the week of April 23, 2012."

I have not seen anything on the most recent DNA tests yet.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WSYN ()
Date: January 26, 2012 06:32PM

The sperm found in the crotch and running down the left leg of the child's pajamas belonged to her father.

http://www.fcnp.com/news/10985-dna-report-in-gardner-case-father-cant-be-eliminated-as-major-source.html

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: March 24, 2012 01:13AM

In addition to the 3/22 Falls Church New Press article re: yesterday's hearing, check out http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/198395/188/ONLY-ON-9-Parents-Sex-Abuse-Case-Speak-Out-.

Thank you WUSA9 and Peggy Fox for providing a counterpoint to local Falls Church "news" reporting and for bringing a spotlight to this case. In a small community like Falls Church, one-sided reporting can have a devastating impact on the parties not engaging the press. In such a sensitive (sex crime) and politically-charged situation, daily life can be impossibly difficult since so many people know the parties involved. There is enormous strain on victims, their families, and even the family of the defendant, as misinformation starts to become fact with everyone from school administrators to the parents of victims' friends, and character assassination of minor children and their parents is viewed as acceptable. This has been going on for too long; the Commonwealth cannot comment publicly regarding an ongoing prosecution, and the victims' parents have been asked not to speak to the press. The willingness of Ms. Fox to shed much-needed light on the local news reporting issue and some of the basic facts in this case is much appreciated. One can only hope that the defense's tactics are as distasteful to the jury as they are to some of the rest of us.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: March 24, 2012 01:18AM

In addition to 3/22 Falls Church New Press article(s) on yesterday's hearing, see also http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/198395/188/ONLY-ON-9-Parents-Sex-Abuse-Case-Speak-Out-

Thank you WUSA9 and Peggy Fox for providing a counterpoint to local Falls Church "news" reporting and for bringing a spotlight to this case. In a small community like Falls Church, one-sided reporting can have a devastating impact on the parties not engaging the press. In such a sensitive (sex crime) and politically-charged situation, daily life can be impossibly difficult since so many people know the parties involved. There is enormous strain on victims, their families, and even the family of the defendant, as misinformation starts to become fact with everyone from school administrators to the parents of victims' friends, and character assassination of minor children and their parents is viewed as acceptable. This has been going on for too long; since the Commonwealth cannot comment publicly regarding an ongoing prosecution, and the families of the victims have been asked to sit tight, the willingness of Ms Fox to shed much-needed light on this issue and this case is much appreciated.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: puthisballsonagasstove ()
Date: March 29, 2012 12:33PM

ARLINGTON COUNTY, Va. (WUSA) - Arlington County Circuit Court has released copies of the extensive DNA report in the molestation case against Michael Gardner. Gardner is a well-known Falls Church political activist who is married to city council member and former mayor Robin Gardner.

The DNA report, compiled by Cybergenetics of Pittsburgh, PA, ompares DNA profiles from Michael Gardner and from two pieces of clothing from two of the three alleged victims. The clothes are underpants from one girl and pajama pants from the other girl.

The report finds that a match between the underpants and Michael Gardner is "20.7 quadrillion times more probable than a coincidental match to an unrelated Caucasian person."

Local DNA expert Thomas McClintock with DNA Diagnostics Inc., in Dunkirk, Md., explained that one in 20.7 quadrillion means "Gardner is the only person with that DNA on the planet" since the earth's population is only 7 billion.

The report also finds that a match between the pajama pants and Michael Gardner "is 3.86 thousand times more probable than a coincidental match to an unrelated Caucasian person."

There is other DNA evidence that could help the defense. Gardner was found not to be a match to a few sperm found on the pajama pants. The prosecution is filing a motion to exclude that evidence saying that it's unrelated to the case. No semen was found on any of the girls.

A study in the Canadian Society of Forensic Science found that it's likely for sperm to be transferred from one clothing item to another in the washing machine. The article is cited in the U.S. Department of Justice's National Criminal Justice Reference Service. That may be the prosecution's explanation of the DNA evidence if it's allowed.

MORE: http://wusa9.com/news/article/198395/373/DNA-Report-Released-In-Falls-Church-Case-Parents-Speak-Out

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: less than a week away ()
Date: April 18, 2012 10:06AM

Trial starts on Monday. Guilty or Not Guilty?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Judge Wopner ()
Date: April 18, 2012 11:42AM

less than a week away Wrote:
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> Trial starts on Monday. Guilty or Not Guilty?
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 19, 2012 08:34AM

"20.7 quadrillion times more probable than a coincidental match to an unrelated Caucasian person."


https://www.gofundme.com/WeSUPPORTtheGIRLS
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Guilty.


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Trial Starts Today ()
Date: April 24, 2012 10:45AM


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Tar Heel ()
Date: April 24, 2012 10:59AM

Interesting tidbit from the article that may shed light on what argument the defense might make:

"Before jury selection began, defense attorney Peter Greenspun requested of Judge Benjamin Kendrick that the jury be taken on a bus trip to the Gardner's home to see where the alleged crimes happened. Greenspun argued that the basement, scene of the second incident, is so dark, it's hard to believe the girls could have actually seen Gardner."

Are they going to allege a one armed mand broke into the home and committed the crimes?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: castratehimwithachainsaw ()
Date: April 24, 2012 02:29PM

A 10-year-old girl walked into an Arlington County courtroom Tuesday holding a small toy and plastic sunglasses and wearing pink glitter shoes. The girl was the first witness called by prosecutors in the child sex case against well-known Falls Church community activist Michael Gardner.

She's one of three girls who accused him of sexually molesting them last summer during sleepovers at the Gardner's home. Gardner's wife is Falls Church city councilwoman and former mayor Robin Gardner.

The prosecution's first witness had to be boosted up in her seat as she took the witness stand. She put on pink, sparkly sunglasses as she settled in. when prosecutor Nicole Wittman asked, "Why are you wearing those?" the fifth-grader replied, "Because I'm a little nervous."

But the little girl confidently stood and pointed to Michael Gardner when she was asked to identify the man who allegedly "touched her girl parts" in the early morning hours of June 16, as she and five other girls attended a birthday slumber party for the Gardner's daughter.

The child testified the girls were sleeping in the basement when in the early morning hours she awakened as someone began unzipping her Sleeping Beauty sleeping bag. She testified that although it was dark, "I looked up to see who it was and it was Mr. Gardner."

She then described how Gardner allegedly reached beneath her pajamas and began touching her private parts.

Prosecutor Wittman asked, "What did you do?"

"I wasn't sure what to do so I acted like I was asleep," she replied.

The girl said Gardner then moved onto to another child, but came back to her a second time and touched her again. The 10-year-old said that the next morning, as the children played hide and seek, she confided to another girl that "her girl parts hurt." Later, after he mother picked up her, she told her the same thing. Police were called and the child was taken to the hospital for a sexual assault examination.

"Do you remember what happened at the hospital," asked Wittman. "No," replied the little girl.

Gardner is represented by prominent defense attorneys Peter Greenspun and Jonathan Shapiro. They will conduct their cross-examination Tuesday afternoon. Gardner faces four sex abuse charges.

In opening statements, prosecutor Alex Amato told jurors, "It's almost unimaginable except that it's true." She told jurors that along with witness testimony, DNA evidence will tie Gardner to the crimes.

But Gardner's defense team said he's innocent, imploring jurors to keep an open mind as they listen to testimony.

Said Greeenspun, "This is one of the most miserable experiences you'll ever have ... We all have to get over the horrible part of it," and listen to the evidence.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 24, 2012 02:51PM

oh Jesus...........

little girl even having to even know that.......

I'm assuming there are like two to five Falls Church officers standing around mom and dad so they dont jump pedobear in the courtroom, right?

How the hell does that thought even go thru yr mind - to even get to the point that you'd even open the door into those kids's room? My head actually physically hurts even trying to process that series of events that this dude did...........or "allegedly" did if you still seriously think that this girl is lying.



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: April 24, 2012 07:15PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Trail - Day 2 ()
Date: April 25, 2012 04:24PM

This creep is getting sent away for a long time.

For a second day, the prosecution in the Michael Gardner sexual battery trial called a young witness to the stand to testify.

The 11-year-old witness said she was at the June 2011 slumber party for Gardner’s daughter and alleges she was touched in a sexual manner. The girl said she was asleep in the basement of Gardner’s home when, in the wee hours on June 19, she says Gardner fixed the comforter covering her, which awakened her. The girl testified that she thanked the man and she went back to sleep.

The girl alleged that Gardner returned to the basement, touched her vagina outside her pajamas then retreated upstairs before repeating the act a second time. The girl said Gardner then returned a third time to touch her but she rolled over and he fled to the opposite side of the room. She said he then returned a fourth time and allegedly touched her under her pajamas.

She said she was awake through all four of the alleged incidents, but remained frozen in confusion. During the fourth incident, she said she acted like she was awake and Gardner fled the basement.

“I didn’t want him touching me,” she said from the stand.

The girl said she tried calling out to Gardner’s daughter in whispers only to have the girl lift her head shortly and then she went back to sleep.

The next day the girl said she and the first witness talked. The first witness to testify in the case, who also alleges she was touched, asked if there was anything wrong with her private parts as well?

“I told her yes and it was Mr. Gardner who did it,” the girl said during her testimony Wednesday.

When her father picked her up from the Gardner’s home, the girl said she told her father who was instantly angered and drove the girl home to her mother before taking her to an already scheduled doctor’s appointment. The girl said she was examined and then taken to meet with City of Falls Church police to give a statement to detectives.

Gardner is accused of touching two girls in a sexual manner during a birthday sleepover for his daughter. They were 9 and 10 years old at the time. A third alleged victim, who was 10 years old at the time, has accused Gardner of touching her in a sexual manner in a separate incident. The third girl testified in July about the separate incident, which allegedly happened June 16.

Gardner's children and wife Robin Gardner are expected to take the stand during the trial. Robin Gardner is a current Falls Church councilwoman and former mayor of the city.

Gardner is out on a $50,000 bond.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: April 26, 2012 07:02PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: April 26, 2012 11:33PM

Ugly situation all around ... heard the defendant almost cried in the courtroom when Mr. Perlin's testimony re: the DNA statistics was allowed. Also heard Mr. Greenspun's drug dealing son (sorry - "alleged") was working for the defense, spying on victim's parents in the courtroom. Nice.

It's interesting how many people are supporting Robin Gardner, who left a bunch of little kids in a dark basement with no phone while she slept 2 floors above them. I doubt there was an opening to tell her what her husband did over eggs and waffles the next morning.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Trial - Day 3 ()
Date: April 26, 2012 11:38PM

DNA Expert Testifies in Gardner Molestation Trial
Scientist says Gardner's DNA matches samples taken from clothing worn by two young accusersBy Julie Carey | Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 | Updated 10:34 PM EDT

Prosecutors turned to a DNA expert as one of their final witnesses in their child sex abuse case against Michael Gardner on Thursday.

Gardner is a well-known Falls Church community and political activist whose wife is a councilwoman and former mayor of that city. He's accused of molesting three of his daughters' friends last June, one at a sleepover and two at a birthday slumber party the following night.

Dr. Mark Perlin, the chief scientist at the Pittsburgh-based Cybergenetics, analyzed DNA samples processed by the Virginia Department of Forensic Science. Using a highly technical presentation, he showed the jury how he matched Michael Gardner's DNA to DNA samples taken from clothing worn by two of the young accusers.

With DNA taken from one girl's underwear, Perlin found a match to Gardner is 20.7 quadrillion times more likely than a coincidental match to an unrelated Caucasian.

And with DNA taken from another child's pajamas, he found a match to Gardner is 3,000 times more probable than a match to an unrelated Caucasian.

Prosecutors stopped short of asking if those findings mean no one but Gardner's could be the source of the DNA.

In cross-examination, defense attorney Peter Greenspun underscored the fact that Perlin was not asked to analyze another, unknown DNA profile that was also found on some of the girls' clothing. The state crime lab only sent samples from the two alleged victims and Gardner.

The prosecution also called its final witness, the last of the three alleged victims to testify. The 10-year-old girl said Gardner fondled her when she slept over with his daughter.

She said the two were sleeping on the bedroom floor when Gardner's daughter called for her father during a thunderstorm. The girl said that on a second visit to the bedroom, Gardner lay down between the two girls and repeatedly touched her stomach, chest and genitals.

In testimony that sometimes sounded rehearsed, the girl told prosecutor Nicole Wittman, "He sexually assaulted me."

The child said Gardner "asked me if it felt good and I told him, 'no'". After that, she said, he left the room.

She said she didn't tell her parents the next day because she was "scared and embarrassed." She also returned to the Gardner home the next night for the slumber party.

During a long cross-examination, Gardner's defense lawyers pointed out the girl didn't mention the incident until she became aware of the police investigation into the slumber party. It wasn't until the end of an interview with a Falls Church police detective five days after the sleepover that she reported being molested.

Asked Greenspun: "You were proud of yourself for helping police?"

"Yes," replied the 5th grader.

"You wanted to be included in what police were doing with the other girls?" he asked.

Again, the answer was "yes," Greenspun also spotlighted many inconsistencies in the way the girl has described what happened. She had testified that Gardner "sneaked his hand" beneath her pajamas to touch her.

But Greenspun challenged that, asking, "You were under the covers, weren't you?" The girl said yes.

Defense attorneys will begin calling their first witnesses tomorrow. They had also asked the judge for permission to take the jury to the Gardner's basement where the slumber party occurred during the night, so they could see the dark conditions for themselves. The judge rejected their request.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Trial - Day 3 ()
Date: April 26, 2012 11:43PM

Sounds like this motion and 9 others were denied.

Greenspun Wants Expert’s Testimony Stricken
Expert testified in Gardner trial that the defendant’s DNA was present on tested sample.

By Andre L. Taylor Email the author 3:51 pm

The defense attorney in the sexual battery trial of Michael Gardner has asked that an expert's testimony be stricken.

Gardner's attorney Peter Greenspun made the request after Dr. Mark Perlin told the court that computerized data was first sent to Richmond before reaching his Pittsburgh office.

The data, results from tests performed on clothing worn by two alleged minor victims in the case, originated from the Virginia Department of Forensic Science's office in Manassas.

Perlin, chief scientist for the Pittsburgh-based Cybergenetics, testified that electronic data sent to his office was put through further computer testing that showed Michael Gardner's DNA represented 25 percent of a DNA mixture found in the underwear of one of his accusers. The girl's DNA matched the other 75 percent, Perlin said. Perlin said the DNA found on the second girl's pajama pants is 3,000 times more likely to belong to Gardner than anyone else.

Greenspun said he has an issue with the chain of command in the delivery of the data since it was not sent directly to Perlin from Kelly Loynes. Loynes, who testified Wednesday, is with the Virginia Department of Forensic Science.

Gardner is accused of touching the two girls in a sexual manner during the sleepover. They were 9 and 10 years old at the time. A third alleged victim, who was 10 years old at the time, has accused Gardner of touching her in a sexual manner in a separate incident. The third girl testified in July about the separate incident, which allegedly happened June 16.

Gardner's children and wife Robin Gardner are expected to take the stand during the trial. Robin Gardner is a current Falls Church councilwoman and former mayor of the city.

Gardner has posted $50,000 bond.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 27, 2012 09:04AM

geez...........it only costs 5k for him?

I guess he's not a flight risk and nobody cares in the city cares if he suicides, eh?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: April 27, 2012 10:16AM

Another interesting link that illustrates the problem with the Falls Church City News Press.

http://sea.hxr.us/2012/04/fcnp-on-michael-gardner.html?showComment=1335535835043#c2896462627450460333

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 27, 2012 10:28AM

YO!!! THAT IS SOME FUCKED UP SHIT!!!!

cause when I saw the post on that article yesterday, I was like "WHOA, so maybe he's innocent!?!" until I started reading the story. And I had to do a cpl doubletakes, cause I couldnt make sense of what the DNA expert was saying in comparison to the headline of the paper............so it's kinda like the paper is like actively trying to make ppl think someone else is guilty to get some chi-mo free!?!?!

And that's kinda like telling the kid "fuck you, little girl you should have kept yr mouth shut and we dont care about you"......the kid's own city paper. Just wow........................

shit, I better stop thinking about this or I'm gonna end up down at that paper's office before the end of the day with a baseball bat..............just let the ppl of Falls Church handle this, Gordon...................

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: FCNP Critic ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:46PM

Sorry, Gordon. You probably shouldn't look too closely at their past articles then. The amount of mis-information and out-and-out lies is just gross! I thought you were supposed to have at least some objectivity to be a "News" Press.

What sucks is that the families and Commonwealth weren't allowed to correct any untrue or misleading statements because of the ongoing investigation and upcoming trial. Nice of them to deliver it to their homes free of charge, too.

Don't know how these people sleep at night -- hopefully in a dark basement.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Yeah, he guilty ()
Date: April 27, 2012 04:18PM

The delay in the search warrant execution and the fact they only found the wife's computer leads me to believe this sicko had some seriously disgusting shit on his computer and they 86ed it before the warrant was served. They had plenty of time and notice to do it.


Sonia Richardson of the Falls Church Police Department delayed three weeks in executing a search warrant of Michael Gardner’s home last summer after being told of “a possible conflict of interest,” she told an Arlington Circuit Court today.

The statement came as Gardner’s lawyers began presenting their defense of the Falls Church resident on four felony charges of aggravated sexual battery and penetration against three young girls who visited the home last June 16-18.

Asked by Gardner’s attorney, Peter Greenspun, who had ordered her to delay, Richardson responded that it came from a superior.

“She told me to hold up,“ Richardson said.

Richardson added that she was not told to stop investigating the case or not to send evidence for forensic testing.

Just after calling the defendant’s wife, Falls Church City Council member Robin Gardner, to the witness stand, defense attorney Peter Greenspun abruptly shifted course and called Richardson to testify. Robin Gardner is expected to appear as a defense witness in court this afternoon, and the couple’s twin children also appear on the defense’s witness list.

An eight-year employee of the Falls Church Police Department, Richardson testified that more than three weeks passed between Gardner’s arrest on June 22 and her seeking and obtaining a search warrant for the home on July 14, a delay she first explained as attributable to “logistics and manpower” matters.

Pressed further, Richardson stated that she delayed because “I hadn’t spoken to all the witnesses yet” and “because of the nature of the case, [its] being high profile, and [because] I wanted to represent everybody correctly.”

Richardson testified to finding no pornographic material in the laptop, thumb drive or cellular telephone that were among the four or five items she seized from the home last July. Greenspun had sought to establish that child molesters typically possess such material.

Greenspun’s first defense witness, Falls Church architect Jack Wilbern, testified earlier in the morning that he came to the home last Sunday to measure the basement and bedroom where the alleged attacks occurred and that he later produced scale drawings of them. He said that he had not charged Gardner for his measurements but hadn’t decided whether to charge for the drawings, which he said took several hours to complete. The drawings were displayed in court this morning.

In cross-examining Richardson, prosecutor Nicole Wittmann suggested the oddity of Robin Gardner’s laptop – the one seized by police – being the only computer found in the home, given, Wittman said, that Michael Gardner did business in the software industry and often traveled to Seattle on long business trips.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ewww ()
Date: April 27, 2012 06:07PM

Wow - I am just finding out about this???!
!went to my Senior Prom with this guy. Back then - he was really cute, seemed nice. Fortunately for me we never had a "close" relationship. I am going to take a 5 hour shower. Just gross.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 27, 2012 06:08PM

wow............"a superior". Chief o' the Falls Church PoPo says in court "hey little girl......yeah, maybe guys all over the world will jack off on cell phone video of Gardner fingering you, maybe not. It wasnt really that important to find out cause my boss said hold up on it........."


Hey, Richardson - next time some guy is trying to fuck a little girl in yr town, why dont you grow a pair and tell whoever's telling you to "hold up"to suck the shit out yr ass.

but Gordon........we didnt have enough ppl to think about getting pedo-bear's computer. THought never crossed our mind................Really? Really?

I mean, I know you "wanted to represent everybody correctly" ..........so maybe next time you will FUCKING THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE LITTLE GIRL CANT PROTECT HERSELF AS WELL AS SOME TOWN POLITICIAN, SO YOU PAY MORE ATTENTION TO HER!!!!!!

SIGNED,
GODD*MNED ASHAMED OF THE FALLS CHURCH POLICE DEPARTMENT!!

edit - later on, I find out more so kinda disregard this :)



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Trial - Day 4 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 10:03PM

Wife, Kids Testify in Gardner Sex Abuse Trial
Michael Gardner accused of molesting three of his daughter's friends during sleepoversBy Julie Carey | Friday, Apr 27, 2012 | Updated 8:51 PM EDT

Michael Gardner's wife and twin 10-year-olds all testified in his defense today as the Falls Church community and political activist fights child molestation charges.

Gardner is accused of sexually molesting three of his daughter's friends during two sleepovers in 2011.

Robin Gardner has stood by her husband since his June 22 arrest. The Falls Church city councilwoman and former mayor offered testimony that sometimes contradicted her husband's young accusers.

One child, now 10 years old, says Michael Gardner fondled her for about 45 minutes during a sleepover, as she lay next to his daughter on her bedroom floor. She says Gardner came to the room when his daughter was frightened by a thunderstorm and called out for her father.

But Robin Gardner says she was awake in her bedroom, right across the hall, when her husband went in to comfort the girls. She says both bedroom doors were open and that he returned in about 15 minutes.

The next night during a birthday slumber party in the basement, two girls say Michael Gardner came down several times during the early morning hours and molested them.

But Robin Gardner says he husband had been sick and turned in early that night. Describing herself as a light sleeper, she says she doesn't remember him stirring until the next morning.

Asked defense attorney Peter Greenspun, "From your observation, was there any indication the girls were upset or emotional?"

"No," she replied.

In cross examination, prosecutor Alex Amato suggested that Robin Gardner had tried to protect her husband from the beginning and failed to cooperate with police. She asked about the night a Falls Church police sergeant arrived at the Gardner home to tell them about the charges.

Asked prosecutor Amato, "Didn't you almost fall over?"

"I was upset; I don't faint," Robin Gardner said.

"Did they have to hold you up?" he asked.

"I was shaking due to the news,"she said.

"Isn't it true that as you were speaking to the sergeant, you husband emerged and told you to stop speaking?" he asked.

Gardner said she didn't recall.

The Gardners' twins also testified. Their son was not home during either alleged incident. Their daughter testified that she remembers her father laying beside her in her room during the thunderstorm, not between the two girls as the accuser testified.

She also says she does not remember anyone coming into the basement during the sleepover or waking during the night.

One of the young accusers says she called out to the Gardner's daughter after she was assaulted and recalls her waking briefly.

Defense testimony continues on Monday.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Anonymous Fairfax ()
Date: April 27, 2012 10:11PM

Hmmm ... stonewalling, covering-up, and "I don't recall." Classic politician, hopefully her swan song. The people of Falls Church should demand her resignation and run the FC News Press out of town. Is it wrong to be repulsed by these people?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ditto ()
Date: April 27, 2012 10:16PM

Yeah, her husband was sick alright. Still is, since research indicates sexual predators can't be cured. Maybe VA will select a correctional facility close by so she doesn't have to drive too far to visit. Shame on her, even if she is in denial.

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Rwake the fuck up city of falls chruch
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 28, 2012 07:49AM

Good Morning Falls Church here's your reality breakfast: you've elected a woman who gonna tell you to your face your kids are lying about being sex assaulted, and that she's more in tune with the chi-mo's THAN YOUR OWN FUCKING CHILDREN!!

Robin Gardner has stood by her husband since his June 22 arrest. The Falls Church city councilwoman and former mayor offered testimony that sometimes contradicted her husband's young accusers.

then there's this bullshit:

But Robin Gardner says she was awake in her bedroom, right across the hall, when her husband went in to comfort the girls. She says both bedroom doors were open and that he returned in about 15 minutes.

translation: Falls Church Councilwoman Robin Gardener is cool with lying in bed while she knows her husband is spending over 10-some minutes in their daughter's room during a girls sleepover. And that's just coming form her b.s testimony cause you know it was longer, since she's been covering up for Dateline bait thru all this, and prolly even before...... FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS KIDS WHO HAVE BEEN NEAR THIS GUY, YOU BETTER RECOGNIZE THAT THIS AINT THE FIRST TIME, AND EVEN YOUR OWN KIDS MAY NOT EVEN KNOW SUBTLE CRAP HAS BEEN HAPPENING TO THEM OVER THE YEARS

is there any way she can be kicked off the council for this?



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: hmm.. ()
Date: April 28, 2012 06:38PM

Concerned for the Kids Wrote:
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> Ugly situation all around ... heard the defendant
> almost cried in the courtroom when Mr. Perlin's
> testimony re: the DNA statistics was allowed.
> Also heard Mr. Greenspun's drug dealing son (sorry
> - "alleged") was working for the defense, spying
> on victim's parents in the courtroom. Nice.
>
> It's interesting how many people are supporting
> Robin Gardner, who left a bunch of little kids in
> a dark basement with no phone while she slept 2
> floors above them. I doubt there was an opening
> to tell her what her husband did over eggs and
> waffles the next morning.

I know his son works for his firm.. so it would make sense that he is working for the defense, as that is his job. I'm curious as to what "spying on the victims' parents" means, though. And how you know about this. Please explain.. was he getting information from them?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned for the Kids ()
Date: April 30, 2012 12:51PM

Good to know his son works for his firm. There are numerous people in the courtroom every day that have noticed his seating directly behind the parents throughout the trial. Don't know what they're looking for, but they reportedly have someone watching the hall outside the courtroom as well. I don't know -- is this a common tactic for these types of trials?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Bruce Variety ()
Date: April 30, 2012 04:58PM

But then there is still the DNA questions. How did his get on the girls underwear? So wierd.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47233904/ns/local_news-washington_dc/#.T577wVJQAtU

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Office Worker ()
Date: April 30, 2012 05:11PM

He looks like Dwight Schrute.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: head scratcher ()
Date: April 30, 2012 05:28PM

Bruce Variety Wrote:
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> But then there is still the DNA questions. How did
> his get on the girls underwear? So wierd.
>
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47233904/ns/local_news
> -washington_dc/#.T577wVJQAtU

Just as importantly, IMHO, is why was there =sperm= (not just "DNA" which we have yet to find came from what part of the defendant - no one has yet said it was semen/sperm) on that same underwear that was not his and why did the police discount it as irrelevant?

Frankly, something smells about this case from what little I've read. It looks to me like the key witnesses were "contaminated", either by conversations with their friends, with their parents, or with the the police themselves. From what I've read (very little, admittedly - only this thread and a couple links) there is no way I'd say "beyond a reasonable doubt" at this point in time.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Court Watcher ()
Date: April 30, 2012 06:36PM

Lots of information has not made it to press accounts, but the majority has been provided to the jury. The "beyond a reasonable doubt" judgment will be made by the jurors. Let's wait to see what those with the most informed perspective have to say.

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Posted by: Will be over soon. ()
Date: April 30, 2012 07:04PM

As to why the sperm was irrelevant.

From WUSA9:

The DNA report also found sperm on one of the girl's pajama pants. The sperm is not Gardner's but the girl's father's. No semen was found, and there is no allegation of abuse by the father. A previous judge ruled the defense cannot allege any sexual abuse by that father.

But, how the sperm got there may be an important question during the trial. The father of that girl says a DNA expert has and will explain for the jury that if clothes soiled with semen are washed with other clothes, while the semen may wash away, dozens if not hundreds of microscopic sperm are distributed in the wash and cling to all the clothes. "It's in the wash, that's all it is," he said. A Canadian study on the matter is referenced in the NCJRS.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: hmm.. ()
Date: April 30, 2012 09:22PM

Concerned for the Kids Wrote:
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> Good to know his son works for his firm. There
> are numerous people in the courtroom every day
> that have noticed his seating directly behind the
> parents throughout the trial. Don't know what
> they're looking for, but they reportedly have
> someone watching the hall outside the courtroom as
> well. I don't know -- is this a common tactic for
> these types of trials?


in all honesty i was in the courtroom and witnessed this. i saw him behind the parents, and i saw the parents make some sort of comment to him, not sure what it was. it looked like he introduced himself to them, but again, i could not hear. the prosecutor said something to him after recess and he moved with no issue, and he has not been near them once since. I have been there every day watching. ive actually talked to him a couple of times, seems like a nice kid, but our conversations were short. i dont think there is any tactic, i think this is just an example of people grasping for straws.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: johnee ()
Date: April 30, 2012 09:24PM

Court Watcher Wrote:
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> Lots of information has not made it to press
> accounts, but the majority has been provided to
> the jury. The "beyond a reasonable doubt"
> judgment will be made by the jurors. Let's wait
> to see what those with the most informed
> perspective have to say.

im assuming you have been in the courtroom, what do YOU think. has the defense shown reasonable doubt?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: hmm.. ()
Date: April 30, 2012 10:54PM

johnee Wrote:
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> Court Watcher Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lots of information has not made it to press
> > accounts, but the majority has been provided to
> > the jury. The "beyond a reasonable doubt"
> > judgment will be made by the jurors. Let's
> wait
> > to see what those with the most informed
> > perspective have to say.
>
> im assuming you have been in the courtroom, what
> do YOU think. has the defense shown reasonable
> doubt?

Just my personal views from watching jurors, I think they are really insulted and pissed at the defense and they don't find Gardner credible.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 01, 2012 07:54AM

hopefully that is true, hmmmm. imagine if Falls Church has one of those NYC juries. Have y'all heard about that - woman gets raped, has the guts to go to trial and then this shit happens

http://gothamist.com/2012/03/31/gunpoint_rape_cop_jurors_dismissed.php

I pray to God that the ppl of Falls Church have more common fucking sense then the scum they put on the juries in NYC..........

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 01, 2012 09:34AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: head scratcher ()
Date: May 01, 2012 10:01AM

WingNut Wrote:
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> ...they are going to have to disregard the testimony of these
> young girls...

Based on what I've read (as previously noted, not that much), I easily could ignore the 2nd and third girls' testimonies and, due to the comical show the prosecution used put on with the first girl's testimony, I would have serious doubts about the first girl's testimony. But that's only based on the little I've read, not on what has actually transpired in the courtroom.

> ...also ignore the fact that the accused apparently blew a load of cum in a
> childs panties...

I haven't read THAT at all - instead, what I've read is the father's sperm was present in his child's panties and "DNA" from the defendant was present on/in a child's panties (and other clothes?). There wasn't anything I've read that said the "DNA" was in the form of semen and/or sperm.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 01, 2012 10:05AM

head scratcher Wrote:
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> Based on what I've read (as previously noted, not
> that much), I easily could ignore the 2nd and
> third girls' testimonies and, due to the comical
> show the prosecution used put on with the first
> girl's testimony, I would have serious doubts
> about the first girl's testimony. But that's only
> based on the little I've read, not on what has
> actually transpired in the courtroom.


Comical?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: May Day ()
Date: May 01, 2012 10:18AM

Big day for Falls Church. It is interesting that the election to fill Robin Gardner's seat is the same day this goes to trial.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 01, 2012 10:28AM

@MayDay - what'll be interesting is if she gets re-elected or not. May tell us a LOT about what's really going on in the minds of the good ppl of Falls Church

@Wingnut - only comical if yr idea of funny is sperm in a little girl's panties.

@headscrather - you gotta read more cause yr not getting the whole story at all, yo - not if yr only reading that city ppl of yrs. Read this whole thread then think about what that paper is doing to yr head - cause it made my head scratch a little too. :(

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: May Day ()
Date: May 01, 2012 10:56AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @MayDay - what'll be interesting is if she gets
> re-elected or not. May tell us a LOT about what's
> really going on in the minds of the good ppl of
> Falls Church

She isn't on the ballot. No matter how liberal our city is, I don't think she would have stood a chance given the allegations against her husband. Following the arrest, she missed a ton of city cocuncil meetings. Besides, her grasp on the council was broken in the last election. People didn't and shouldn't respond well to the Michael Gardner and Nick Benton attempted takeover of the city.

I believe he should and will be found guilty. My money is on the jury returning a verdict as early as today. I also assume a civil trial will ensue regardless of the outcome.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Jury is Out ()
Date: May 01, 2012 03:15PM

With Closing Arguments Made, Gardner Case Goes to the Jury
By Hillel Kuttler
Tuesday, May 01 2012 11:03:32 AM
An Arlington Circuit Court jury will begin deliberating at approximately 3 p.m. this afternoon over the fate of Falls Church resident Michael Gardner on charges of sexually molesting and assaulting three girls who visited his home last June.

Just before 1:30 p.m., a court official randomly selected the names of two of the 14-member panel of jurors and alternate jurors. The two people – one man and one woman – were thanked by Judge Benjamin Kendrick for their service and attentiveness, and then dismissed. The final jury that will pronounce Gardner guilty or not guilty consists of eight women and four men.

Their first order of business following an hour-long lunch break will be to select a foreman who will guide the deliberations and inform the court of the jury's verdict.

Prosecutor Nicole Wittmann and defense attorney Peter Greenspun each spent more than one hour this morning and early afternoon delivering closing arguments, consisting of summarizing their own cases, hammering away at the weaknesses of their counterpart's case and urging their sought-for verdicts. The two at various times made their points while grasping before the jury some of the evidence already presented during the case, including pajamas, underpants, a nightgown and sleeping bag belonging to the girls.

Wittmann's and Greenspun's arguments occurred before a packed courtroom that included five of the complainants' six parents; Gardner's wife, Robin, a member of the Falls Church city council; neighbors and friends on both sides; and curious court employees. Several people who had testified during the trial also attended, including Falls Church Police Department detective Sonia Richardson, the lead investigator on the case, who had been called to the stand more often than any other witness.

Gardner, sitting at the defense table across the room from the jury, wore a charcoal-colored suit and donned eyeglasses for the first time since the trial began on April 23.

Wittmann called on the jury to confine its deliberations to the facts presented at trial, resting her case on the twin pillars of the testimony of witnesses – primarily, the three girls Gardner allegedly assaulted during overnight visits to his daughter last June 16 and June 18 – and the DNA evidence collected from the undergarments of two of the girls. The testimony and evidence, which Wittmann called "loud and clear," justify conviction on all three charges of aggravated sexual battery and one charge of sexual penetration for which Gardner was indicted, she said.

Wittmann several times called the defense's presentation "nonsense" in various forms, and one based on speculation rather than on facts.

Greenspun told the jury that Wittmann had presented a "skilled and compelling argument," but one that was "wrong because Michael Gardner did not commit these crimes."

Several times, Greenspun mocked the prosecution's overall case and selected tactics as signs of "desperation" and of "smoke and mirrors" to obtain a conviction. He also repeatedly de-emphasized the value of the DNA evidence linking Gardner to the girls' garments because, he said, a visitor to someone's house would necessarily be "swimming" in the host's "DNA pool."

Gardner exhibited "courage" and "moxie" in deciding to testify yesterday in his own defense, Greenspun stated.

In her rebuttal near the end of today's session, Wittmann attacked Greenspun's "swimming ... pool" defense, arguing that forensic analysis of the girl's garments neither found the DNA of another male who then resided in the Gardner home nor the girls' DNA on each other.

"If, in fact, all these girls were swimming in the DNA pool, you'd expect to see different facts" emerge, she said.

"The DNA [evidence] is extremely convincing ... "What does that mean? That it's him," Wittmann said, referring to Gardner.

"What happened in the Gardner home these two days is unimaginable – except for the fact that all the [evidence] tells you that it is true," Wittmann concluded.

"Now it's in your hands," Greenspun told the jury at the end of his summation, comparing the trial's presentation to sponges that the jury now has to wring out while deliberating. "At the end, ladies and gentlemen, after you stop wringing it out ... you'll let Mr. Gardner go home with his family."

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: odds ()
Date: May 01, 2012 03:44PM

So, jury got the case at 3 pm. Any bets on when they return a verdict and what it will be?

Here is my prediction:

Tomorrow, at 11:30 am
Guilty.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 01, 2012 04:08PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 01, 2012 04:35PM

I hope he's read that, wingnut...........

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: May 01, 2012 04:42PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: this is just hillarious ()
Date: May 01, 2012 05:46PM

if it was just men on the city council, then there wouldn't be any stupid husbands to be retarded like this. troll logic is logical

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Will be over soon ()
Date: May 01, 2012 09:16PM

Wingnut you're prediction is off on the length of time. Three of the charges are one to twenty years and the penetration charge is from 5yrs to life. So minimum he is looking at 8yrs if convicted on all 4 counts and life plus 60 yrs would be the maximum. Also here is an FYI. Virginia abolished parole for convicted criminals in 1995 so whatever the final sentence is, that is how long he will serve.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 02, 2012 07:10AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Will be over soon ()
Date: May 02, 2012 08:08AM

One of Judge Kendrick nick names is "Maximum Benny". Whatever the jury decides, he will most likely go along with it. Here is an old article about him that is interesting:
http://articles.nydailynews.com/1997-09-25/news/18054878_1_kendrick-rocket-docket-defense-lawyer

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 02, 2012 08:28AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: BREAKING NEWS!!! ()
Date: May 02, 2012 12:09PM

Jurors have reached a verdict on 3 charges and are deadlocked on the fourth.

No word on whether the agreed upon verdicts are guilty or not guilty.

I say they have found him guilty on the three lesser charges (sexual battery) and they are deadlocked on the penetration charge.

It'll shake out something like this. The jurors all believe there is enough evidence to support a verdict of guilty on the battery charges. Most of the jurors (believing he is guilty of those charges) are more than willing to tack on the penetration charge even with a lack of clear and convincing evidence. I'd do the same as any sentence is too short for this sick fuck. That being said, there are a couple of sticklers on the jury that demand clear and convincing evidence.

Guilty on the first 3, hung on the fourth. 1-60 year sentence potential. He will get sentenced to 6 years.

Any other predictions?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WUSA is reporting the same.... ()
Date: May 02, 2012 12:26PM

I think the above poster has it spot on.



ARLINGTON, Va. (WUSA) - Breaking news from the Michael Gardner child molestation trial. The jury has reached a verdict on three of the four counts.

The Falls Church businessman is accused of molesting three young girls who attended a sleep-over and his daughter's slumber party last June.

There is DNA evidence from the two girls who attended slumber party, with three charges connected to them. The third girl who was at the the sleep-over did not have her clothes tested since she came forward later.

The judge has requested that the jury continue to deliberate. You can follow Peggy Fox's tweets on the trial at PeggyTV and she'll have the latest on 9 News Now starting at 5 o'clock.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: castrate him ()
Date: May 02, 2012 12:33PM

Looks like Gardner and his attorney know he is going into lockup. It is probably the minority view to find him not guilty on the fourth charge. I bet those jurors cave by 3:30 and he is found guilty on all four counts.

------------------------------------

From the Falls Church News Press:

An Arlington Circuit Court jury reached unanimous verdicts this morning on three charges against Falls Church resident Michael Gardner, but was ordered to continue deliberating on the fourth charge before releasing any verdicts.

The jury had deliberated just under four and a half hours – two and a half hours yesterday afternoon and less than two hours this morning – before passing on this written message to Judge Benjamin Kendrick at 11:20 a.m.: "We have reached a unanimous verdict on three of the four counts. We have not reached a unanimous verdict on the fourth count. What do we do?"

Kendrick suggested to prosecutor Nicole Wittman and defense attorney Peter Greenspun that the jury be allowed to announce the three verdicts, be read the Allen charge – instructing jurors holding a minority view to reconsider its positions – and return to decide the fourth count.

Wittmann agreed to the suggestion, while Greenspun preferred that the panel remain in the jury room until reaching verdicts on all four counts. Wittman replied that she would not object to the defense's stance.

Kendrick suggested that his written response to the jury read, "Please continue until you reach a verdict," which Greenspun wanted amended to read, "Please continue with your deliberations." Kendrick considered the matter, then wrote a message on yellow-lined paper that he handed to a bailiff for delivery to the jury.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: see ya ()
Date: May 02, 2012 12:52PM

WASHINGTON -- A Virginia jury has found Michael Gardner, the husband of former Falls Church mayor and city councilwoman Robin Gardner, guilty of two counts of sexual battery and one count of object penetration.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: ! ()
Date: May 02, 2012 01:02PM

Good for the prosecution. Let's hope this a$$hole doesn't stay free pending appeal.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 02, 2012 01:11PM

oh nooooo...................let's hope he DOES stay free.............and under house arrest..........
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 02, 2012 01:16PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 02, 2012 01:21PM

whats sick as shit about that is that the parent would have been given more time behind bars than Gardener is gonna get :(

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: May 02, 2012 01:24PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Batman ()
Date: May 02, 2012 01:34PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> Locked up presentencing..
>
> "Judge Benjamin Kendrick ordered that Gardner be
> immediately taken into custody, rejecting a
> defense request that he be allowed to remain in a
> room in the building with his wife Robin, a Falls
> Church City Council member."


Ouch. The judge just showed us he is going to impose a pretty harsh sentence. If Gardner isn't allowed out prior to sentencing, I bet he will get a long sentence.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: May 02, 2012 01:41PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Advice for Mr. Gardner ()
Date: May 02, 2012 01:46PM


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Give him life ()
Date: May 02, 2012 04:24PM

Sentencing hearing has begun. Even Gardner's lawyer knows it will be a lengthy sentence.


Peter Greenspun, Gardner’s attorney, asked the jury to consider his client will punished enough by missing events in his children’s lives and asked them to consider giving him a seven-year sentence.

http://clarendon.patch.com/articles/gardner-faces-up-to-life-prison-sentence

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: No Pity ()
Date: May 02, 2012 05:01PM

Both defendant and attorney are scum.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 02, 2012 05:52PM

Jury recommends TWENTY-TWO YEAR SENTENCE.

Jesus Christ, even I thought 12 to 18 would be fair, and I would have been happy with ten years.

If Judge Kendrick follows through with the recommendation ( he can go lowers), Kinko will be almost 70 when he is released.

This story so disgusts me.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: May 02, 2012 05:55PM

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it's not over yet, dammit............
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 02, 2012 06:12PM

YAY!!! I can at least say my respect for the ppl of Falls Church is back

now the next step is an independent investigation into how the Falls Church Police handled this.

cause imagine if Gardner had video

of YOUR kid being molested

on his computer that disappeared

and we will never know

how many children we could have helped

cause of some dicking around by somebody somewhere...................

man coached Girls Soccer for 8 years - y'all dont think he aint rubbed other girls you are fucking in more denial than Coucilwoman Headupherass

shit aint over

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Little City Weed ()
Date: May 02, 2012 06:15PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> I read some cooments on one of the local news
> sites. Apparently the tot-tapper ran a blog called
> "blueweeds".
>
> Looked for it online but it has disappeared.
> Curious to see what kind of lefty kook insanity
> was in the mind of this Chester.


His stupidity is still on full display on the Falls Church News Press. Search for the column called "The Little City Weed.". It is mostly on local issues, but you can get a sense of his smug, holier than thou pomposity.

It is good he is friends with Nick Benton. Nick can give him some pointers on sucking cock and taking it up the butt. Nick is an old pro and Mike soon will be.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Noggin knocker ()
Date: May 02, 2012 06:41PM

If this sick fuck had pled guilty and taken a plea, he'd probably have been sentenced to 5 to 8 years. Now he is looking at 20+.

His arrogance did him in.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: We don't say "Aint" round here ()
Date: May 02, 2012 06:52PM

@GordonBlvd

Constantly writing "ain't" and "y'all" in attempt to be folksy or to show your blue-collar affiliations simply makes you sound like a retard.


Just sayin...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 02, 2012 06:55PM

Noggin knocker Wrote:
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> If this sick fuck had pled guilty and taken a
> plea, he'd probably have been sentenced to 5 to 8
> years. Now he is looking at 20+.
>
> His arrogance did him in.


Those are my sentiments.

Greenspun and Shapiro are fuckheads and represent some deplorable people, but they are very competent counsel.They probably begged his stupid ass to take a plea, but had to put up with this idiots idea of what a good defense was.

Gardner paid considerably more for the jury trial, jury trials take a lot more preperation and research than a plea deal, which is often just damage mitigation and control.

Stupid fucker probably refused to listen to any good advice. He probably has his wife completely snookered or at least torn about the reality of his crimes. He probably has a few loser defenders left, but not for long.


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Posted by: Blue Weeds Archive ()
Date: May 02, 2012 07:05PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> I read some cooments on one of the local news
> sites. Apparently the tot-tapper ran a blog called
> "blueweeds".
>
> Looked for it online but it has disappeared.
> Curious to see what kind of lefty kook insanity
> was in the mind of this Chester.


http://web.archive.org/web/20100707222625/http://blueweeds.typepad.com/blue_weeds/republicans/

Your curiosity quenched.

What an ass this guy is. It wouldn't surprise me if he posted in this forum.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Father ()
Date: May 02, 2012 08:08PM

Thanks for all of your support and comments. It has been a long road and your comments and names have often lifted my spirits. I will have to spend several hours in confession for taking such delight all of your "potty mouthed" posts, and I'm not even Catholic (It is also been great torture for Gardner as demonstrated by WSYN's comment on the first page.(I assume that was Gardner as only someone with a sick mind would turn what was in the report into that sick description)).

I do have to say that Falls Church Police have done a truly awesome job on this case despite having a lot of local political pressure being applied. Sgt. Lancaster and especially Detective Richardson did their investigation so well that even Greenspun could not poke holes in it. And believe me he tried. The prosecutors Nicole Wittmann and Alex Amato also did a fantastic job. Nicole was with us from the beginning and Virginia is well served by her efforts. The Commonwealth put a lot of time and resources into this case and I have to thank them for believing in our girls and sparing no effort to put Gardner away.

Falls Church City is a safer place today.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 02, 2012 09:08PM

man, I am glad I logged on again.

wow. Sir. I am blown away by your...........ability to remain calm and sane in what is been this entire event. I hope you and yr family are able to heal.

I thank you for taking the time to "speak" with us, and will most CERTAINLY rethink my thoughts on the police. Are you able to talk about stuff investigation-wise? I am under the impression that Gardner's house wasnt searched for a while and that he got rid of his computer. Is this true or false or can you even talk about it cause I really want to know - thank you if you can

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: trustee ()
Date: May 02, 2012 09:17PM

With his snotty arrogant attitude he will not do well in the state system. He could end up at the Red Onion which is one tough lockdown.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: trustee ()
Date: May 02, 2012 09:26PM

Rule one in state lockup is keep your mouth shut. This guy doesnt look like he has that in him. I picture him as the type who will run his mouth about his rights. Even in the medium security prisons it can be tough esp if you run your mouth and piss off the guards or fellow inmates. He looks soft and the type with no real street experience by which I mean he will not do well in lockup.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Involved Parent ()
Date: May 02, 2012 11:21PM

Just to clarify a point, Breaking News' comment re: "lack of clear and convincing evidence" on the penetration charge is not correct. Not only was the evidence clear and convincing, it was disgustingly so - photos of a wound, as well as DNA. The poor jurors were put through the wringer on this case.

I would like to thank everyone with supportive comments for giving the girls the benefit of the doubt during the past 10 months. These girls were enormously courageous and took a beating throughout the process. They were truthful, consistent, and most of all, their accounts were supported by the physical evidence. It was difficult to read comments about what an upstanding citizen the now-convicted child molester was when the DNA results were in 6 months ago (albeit erroneously reported the first time around).

The only thing worse than the words of support for the convicted child molester were those for his loving wife. Anyone who knew these girls should have heard the flat-out untruthful and mean-spirited characterizations of them by Robin -- it was truly sickening. She was absolutely heartless about these poor girls, while the prosecution declined to do the same to her two kids. It's hard to be sympathetic about someone who is not only non-apologetic in the face of the evidence and the verdict, but so self-centered as to put on quite a hysterical show during the victim impact statements, focusing on how her life has been disrupted, etc. And worst of all, she refuses to acknowledge the symptoms of abuse that her own kids have exhibited, which doesn't say much about her willingness to protect them either.

While the police may not have been able to conduct the search of their home in the most timely manner (not necessarily their fault), it should be noted that Robin had access to their automated equipment after the convicted child molester's arrest. Also, I can't say enough about the support and cooperation we've received from both the Falls Church Police Department and the Arlington Commonwealth Attorney's office. These people were fantastic and the people of Falls Church, Arlington and Loudoun County are lucky to have them. And Judge Kendrick ran a very tight ship.

My most fervent hope is that Mrs. G will soon begin enjoying life far away from Falls Church. Thanks for sticking through this with us. This has been a very helpful site.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: curious neighbor ()
Date: May 02, 2012 11:27PM

Why are there emergency No Parking signs in front of the Gardner home? IIRC they are for 5/3, 7 am - 5:30 pm.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: I live in FC ()
Date: May 02, 2012 11:35PM

Father Wrote:
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> Thanks for all of your support and comments. It
> has been a long road and your comments and names
> have often lifted my spirits. I will have to spend
> several hours in confession for taking such
> delight all of your "potty mouthed" posts, and I'm
> not even Catholic (It is also been great torture
> for Gardner as demonstrated by WSYN's comment on
> the first page.(I assume that was Gardner as only
> someone with a sick mind would turn what was in
> the report into that sick description)).
>
> I do have to say that Falls Church Police have
> done a truly awesome job on this case despite
> having a lot of local political pressure being
> applied. Sgt. Lancaster and especially Detective
> Richardson did their investigation so well that
> even Greenspun could not poke holes in it. And
> believe me he tried. The prosecutors Nicole
> Wittmann and Alex Amato also did a fantastic job.
> Nicole was with us from the beginning and Virginia
> is well served by her efforts. The Commonwealth
> put a lot of time and resources into this case and
> I have to thank them for believing in our girls
> and sparing no effort to put Gardner away.
>
> Falls Church City is a safer place today.


Sir, your family is definitely in my thoughts and prayers. Thank you for taking this animal off the streets.

No words can ever express my emotions related to how horrified and repulsed I am by this monster.

I hope that your daughter can one day recover and thrive the way she should have absent this despicable event.

Your daughter is a hero and a champion. Love her forever as I know you will.

I am not one of those people that is an uber religious person, but your strength reaffirms my faith in humanity.

I have daughters and I am not sure I could be as dignified as you.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: No forgiveness ()
Date: May 03, 2012 12:40AM

Lydia Zache Wrote:
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> I am a personal friend of Michael Gardner we went
> to george mason university together where he
> served as student government president and I was
> on the senate. Michael is a man who is of
> integrity and virtue he loves his family and his
> community and I find it difficult to believe such
> allegations in reference to him.
> I say he is innocent until proven guilty. It seems
> to me this could be a gross exaggeration of some
> sort or conspiracy or imagination on the part of
> the children involved. Michael was an integral
> part of the falls church community who cared and I
> believe he deserves more support and the benefit
> of the doubt until there is some real definitive
> evidence which can prove otherwise.


Sorry, Lydia. You fail. This douche has what is coming to him in state prison. 20 years of ass raping is not even close to what he deserves.

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Date: May 03, 2012 08:04AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 03, 2012 08:50AM

so Lydia Zache - tell me something - what would you say to those 3 little girls? Would you be MAD at them for HURTING your friend?

I'm curious as to if there is going to be any retribution from Gardner's power-buddies towards the families of his victims for any of this.

PEOPLE OF FALLS CHURCH I AM COUNTING ON YOU TO MAKE SURE THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN

THE FAMILIES OF GARDNER'S VICTIMS SHOULD NOT BE MADE TO SUFFER ANY MORE FROM HIS ACTIONS!!

thank you to whoever put that video up - good stuff =)
@wingnut - I'm watching that and my questions are
a) was Mikey tagging that regularly (the way her voice couldnt hit those high notes, it sounded like he hadnt been giving her any practice on that tip in a while LoLz)
b) Was the pedoactions part of some "thing" involved with their sex life - I mean did he need the "sparK" of a pedo-action to get it on with her, is what I'm trying to say, I guess............
c) Was she in denial or was she helping a little. He was a soccer coach for as long as my kids been alive - LOOOONNG TIME for a pedobear to be running loose around little girls so Reno odds say the number's bigger than 3 in my book so she had to know something was up - I just wonder which way her wind is blowing........

@No forgiveness - actually, it was stated best earlier in the thread:
Posted by: feedhisballs2apitbull ()
Date: July 13, 2011 03:14PM

Even when we do, and he is found guilty, the sentence he receives will be far less than what he deserves. Anything less than castration is a travesty of justice.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 03, 2012 08:57AM

to the 3 little girls that I'll never meet:

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOUR BRAVERY IS SOMETHING I WILL REMEMBER FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!

What you three have done is something on the real life level of Batman - VERY Super Hero like. NO JOKE! You have SERIOUSLY taken down a real-life Evil, Nasty Bad Guy. And not just some stupid streetpunk - you actually took down like Falls Churchs very on Lex Luthor. And I know it sounds crazy, but I'm dead serious. Guy was power, not only in the city, but on a regional (and beyond in some circles) level. And he had ppl played for fools. POWERFUL people

and that didnt let that stop you

and that is something I hope to carry with me for the rest of my life

and that is something I hope you three remember about this whole ordeal as you grow to put it behind you

that NOTHING can stop you - since you already smacked evil in the face

all before high school too........pretty impressive, kids ;)

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: MADA ()
Date: May 03, 2012 08:59AM

As much as we all want this fat ass nasty fuck getting ass raped, he will be in PC. Punk city..no one will be able to touch him but himself. He might kill himself though so let's hope for that!

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Date: May 03, 2012 09:04AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Voice of Reason ()
Date: May 03, 2012 10:56AM

While I of course find Mr. Gardner's actions horrible, I'm worried about the comments on here. Some of you are truely ugly people. To say that rape in prison is not only acceptable, but welcome is horrific. Here's a man who had everything; good family, nice home, good job, all gone because of the actions he took one night in June. His wife of what, 20 plus years, you decide to attack? Nice. I'm also surprised and dismayed you want to put justice in the hands of criminals, as long as it's in prison away from your shaded neighborhoods. That's not the point of prison.

He's going away for at least 20 years and he'll likely die in prison, all to cop a feel on a kid. It doesn't make any sense to me. Throwing a lifetime worth of work away on that. Some of you act like his wife should have known. Really? You know a lot of successful lawyers who one day out of the blue decide to enter his kid's slumber party and feel up two little girls? I'll never understand how something like this happens. To literally throw away all you have, to harm kids, to miss out on your kids lives, I'll just never understand it.

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Posted by: rebuttal ()
Date: May 03, 2012 11:23AM

Voice of Reason Wrote:
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> While I of course find Mr. Gardner's actions
> horrible, I'm worried about the comments on here.
> Some of you are truely ugly people.

Nowhere near as ugly as Mr. Gardner.

> To say that rape in prison is not only acceptable, but welcome
> is horrific.

It is called Karma.

> Here's a man who had everything;
> good family, nice home, good job, all gone because
> of the actions he took one night in June. His
> wife of what, 20 plus years, you decide to attack?

She testified on his behalf under oath.

> Nice. I'm also surprised and dismayed you want
> to put justice in the hands of criminals, as long
> as it's in prison away from your shaded
> neighborhoods. That's not the point of prison.

In my mind, the point of prison is to punish. The notion of rehabilitation is ridiculous. There is a reason sex offenses carry lengthy sentences. Recitivism among sex offenders is one of the highest among all criminals. There is a reason for a sex offender registry.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 03, 2012 03:40PM

@Voice of reason - I want you to go to CVS, buy yourself a can of Raid Hornet and Wasp Killer, and I need for you to spray it directly into your mouth and eyes please.

HOW DARE YOU WHINE ABOUT LITTLE MIKEY'S PAIN WHEN HE IS THE COMPLETE FUCKING ASSHOLE WHO STARTED/CREATED/FABRICATED THIS PAIN IN THE FIRST PLACE, JACKASS!!!!

"He's going away for at least 20 years and he'll likely die in prison, all to cop a feel on a kid. It doesn't make any sense to me"

Doesnt make any sense to you? doesnt make.......? Does...........AAAAAGGHRHRRHRHRHRRHGYUGYUOGYUGBJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Gordon losing his mind again.........)

The reason Gardner is going to prison: to keep ppl like me from FUCKING BURNING HIS HOUSE TO THE FUCKING GROUND! Are you FUCKING UNDERSTANDING ME!?!?!

You say we are weak and that we'd only let criminals harm him? I would sooo willingly take and object and do to him what needs to be done. Got a LOT of other parents would pay for just a Lotto chance to line up behind me. He's going to jail to keep us calm, and not do that. That's why, capesh? They call it "law and order" around here.

I know you are having trouble with this whole CARING ABOUT THE CHILDREN IN YOUR COMMUNITY OVER YOUR PEDOPHILE FRIENDS thing, so I'll try to help you out. Its like this. Here in America, it is the RIGHT OF EVERY AMERICAN TO HAVE FREEDOM and Gardner attempted to take those freedoms (in this case sexual freedom) away BY PHYSICAL FORCE (or what? are you saying he didnt force himself on the girls? Are you gonna argue that they maybe wanted it? Say that, Voice. Say that so I can reach thru this hear interweb, grab your trachea, and start using it as a foot pumice!)

Look, I get that you still wanna be buds with him, make this all go away and be like it was before. Aint gonna happen. And keep this in mind too, Brainiac: he ALSO used his friends, family, and connections to FLAT OUT FUCKING LIE TO PEOPLE!!!! DONT YOU GET THIS!?!?!

So now, we dont know how many girls he's touched, seen, rubbed, etc. We dont. We simply dont, ok? YOu can say blah blah blah all the live long day, but all that falls out of your mouth is shit if there is even ONE GIRL out there whose had to deal with this. 8 yrs as girls soccer coach tells me that he's cum more than once around little kids. I dont know.

And I know you dont either and never will.

But I do know your friend is fake and has been for years. You thought you knew what it was but he's not human. He's a pedo. If you arent, then you need to WAKE THE FUCK UP THE MINUTE YOU READ THIS AND REALIZE YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO AND HE IS A SICK FUCKING PEDO WHO WOULD HARM ANY CHILD IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, even yours and may have without you or even the kid knowing it. Coach rubs a couple times in a group huddle and yr a 7 yr old, you may not even think twice about it - meanwhile Gardners running to the shed to get some kleenx to wipe himself off - prolly happend alot more than we'd care to think about.........

which is the point of that whole prison thingee you were so confused about before, k?

edit: voice - I've been asked to explain something to you - the fact that a lotta anger towards Gardner is the complete utter lack of disrespect has been shown from his camp towards the victims of this crime. Even you in yr post dont even acknowledge the LEGITIMATE pain the families of these kids have dealt with, ONLY yr friend. That kinda feeds this whole anger thing. Just want to let you know. Gardner has generated a LOT of animosity because of this. IF you truly care and truly are a real person, you will let others in his camp know this, and maybe they will do something about it..............



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: FC Mom ()
Date: May 03, 2012 04:48PM

I completely agree with and enjoy your comments about this SBO, but your comments about women are unnecessarily distracting from your message. These little girls are strong, brave, powerful people. Will that be a problem for you when they grow to be strong women? Are women who are powerful in and out of the home a negative - are we "shrill and controlling"? Even worse, you seem to be suggesting that women who don't "put out" on demand contribute to men seeking intimacy with children. Maybe that's what men who do these things tell themselves, but that is complete BS. Societies that condone abuse of girls, sexual or otherwise, tend to support the views you have expressed with respect to women. I feel your rage, including toward the wife, but it shouldn't be about her being a woman who isn't a passive Barbie or whatever a "good" woman is supposed to be. There will always be pedos, but I believe less hatred of women who don't "conform" = less abuse of girls.

Just my 2 cents, please carry on with your otherwise excellent commentary.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Marcus Welby ()
Date: May 03, 2012 06:01PM

Gordo...Xanax...now...you're getting all revved up...we talked about this...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Obviously Obvious ()
Date: May 03, 2012 06:03PM

Doesnt make any sense to you? doesnt make.......? Does...........AAAAAGGHRHRRHRHRHRRHGYUGYUOGYUGBJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Gordon losing his mind again.........)



Doesnt make any sense to you? doesnt make.......? Does...........AAAAAGGHRHRRHRHRHRRHGYUGYUOGYUGBJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Gordon losing HER mind again.........)



Corrected that for you...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: voice of reason ()
Date: May 03, 2012 08:08PM

Gordon - I in no way defended Mr. Gardner. You clearly have a rage problem. Rape is wrong. I'm sorry you don't know that. Rape is wrong in all instances. I can understand if you are one of the parents in this case. I suspect you are not since the parents were satisfied with 22 years. As for "it doesn't make sense." These actions by a father of two at his daughters birthday party makes sense to you? I didn't defend him in any way.

I find it hard to believe people are defending your sexist remarks. Your terroristic threat. And your call for vigilanteism even after justice has been served. Just because Mr. Gardner has a problem doesn't absolve you.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: el creepo ()
Date: May 03, 2012 09:01PM

Voice of Reason Wrote:
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Here's a man who had everything;
> good family, nice home, good job, all gone because
> of the actions he took one night in June.

If I am to believe you then this was the first and last time he did something like this. I have my doubts.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: zack m ()
Date: May 03, 2012 09:03PM

IMO the most despicable people on the face of this earth are those that abuse children.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Father ()
Date: May 04, 2012 12:07AM

Voice of Reason, if you do even the slightest bit of research on the subject, you will realize this is not the first time he has done something.

"The average number of sexual offenses a pedophile commits before being caught is believed to be more than 100. Stopping one pedophile means saving many victims."(Chilren's Center for Hope and Healing)

As a class of criminal, they have the highest recidivism rate. Attempts to rehabilitate only make them more sophisticated offenders. A 47 year old man does not just suddenly become a child molester out of the blue.

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Date: May 04, 2012 07:58AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: George Clinton ()
Date: May 04, 2012 09:42AM

Wingnut=GordonBlvd?

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Date: May 04, 2012 09:52AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Voice of Reason ()
Date: May 04, 2012 10:19AM

Wingnut - Yes, this is a conviction on one night. You want to assign crimes to Mr. Gardner that not only have NOT been proved, but havn't even been alledged. This is part of the confusion in this case. He has no past history of anything like this. He coached girls soccer for years. You think every girl he's had contact with wasn't grilled by her parents? No other girls have come forward with any allegations. The man had money. No trips to foreign ports of call?

The police failed in their search warrant. You can lay the blame of their sloppy police work on Mr. Gardner, but I think going forward you should look harder at the police who failed to search his car or work, an office which was right in Falls Church. Oh, and next time, serve the search warrant at the time of arrest.

With all that said, these girls were damaged as were their parents and I hope they are addressing that. No amount of punishment for Mr. Gardner will help these girls. I don't know how you help these girls recover from this, but it seems like the one girl has a handle on it saying, "He had a choice." He will be gone from the streets for the rest of his life, again, because of choices he made one night.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 04, 2012 10:45AM

@george - 2+2 doesnt equal 22, k?
@wingnut - whats kinda sad is that maybe Gardner's children already know............may never tell. That sorta thing, y'know?
@Father - I wonder if "voice" is like a NAMBLA person or something. Something that we dont think about but pedos do connect up, like taliban or aryans. Those sorta of ppl do tend to protect each other, y'know? Most of Gardner's human friends are going to stop talking to him and wake up about him - if not before, most CERTAINLY in the next week or so..............

and for voice.............................

YES ASSHOLE! I HAVE A RAGE PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO THE THOUGHT OF LITTLE GIRLS BEING MOLESTED!! IF THAT DOES NOT CREATE A FEELING OF RAGE WITHIN YOU, THEN WE NEED YOU TO STOP BY SUNOCO, PURCHASE 1 QUART OF 10W30, AND POUR THE CONTENTS OF THE BOTTLE DOWN YR THROAT.
Yes, rage. Plain and simple. Which is why, voice, you should GET ON YOUR KNEES AND BEG PPL LIKE "Father" FOR THANKS AND MERCY because it's ppl like him, ppl who show ppl like me that Law and Order works, that keeps ppl like me from burning the flesh of yr pedo-buddy, dangling the remains off the 66 overpass so everyone coming into town can see what happens to Pedos.

You say you dont defend it - posted that around 8 last night. And yet at 11 in the morning yesterday, you posted that you could not comprehend why your friend is "going away for at least 20 years and he'll likely die in prison, all to cop a feel on a kid"............as if "coping a feel" is all that occured ( you are TOTALLY disregarding the fact that he was attempting to STEAL THE SOUL OF A CHILD when he was just "coping a feel). And oh yeah, asshole, you cant "just cop a feel" on a kid. That thought doesnt FUCKING FLOW thru the minds of most humans, k?
Sorry, but your incomprehension of basic common sense (cant understand prison time...........geez that makes me wanna smack you right there), ESPECIALLY when it involves the safety and security of a child in your community, coupled with your stuck-up bourgeois attitude toward this issue as a whole (wahhhh Gordon - you are soooo nasty towards my CONVICTED PEDOPHILE FRIEND!!! I discard all community anger! Let them eat cake!) pisses me of.
And yr gonna have to kinda deal with that sorta vibe if you continue to fly the pedo-flag in your own house so I'd shut my mouth if I was you. Sticking by Gardner's side is gonna get you anger.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Voice of Reason ()
Date: May 04, 2012 10:57AM

Gordon - The reason I think you have a rage problem is because you make terroristic threats, think rape is ok, and you are a misogynist. I haven't defended Mr. Gardner in the least for his actions. I just think the jury did a good job in this case. You clearly do not think they did and would like a wild west scenario with you as sheriff. You are a sick individual who clearly needs help and when you finally do become unhinged and take your vengence IRL, then "father" and "wingnut" can then share in the blame for your actions as they've offered so much encouragement to you.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: tell the truth ()
Date: May 04, 2012 11:04AM

Voice of Reason Wrote:
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> Gordon - The reason I think you have a rage
> problem is because you make terroristic threats,
> think rape is ok, and you are a misogynist. I
> haven't defended Mr. Gardner in the least for his
> actions. I just think the jury did a good job in
> this case. You clearly do not think they did and
> would like a wild west scenario with you as
> sheriff. You are a sick individual who clearly
> needs help and when you finally do become unhinged
> and take your vengence IRL, then "father" and
> "wingnut" can then share in the blame for your
> actions as they've offered so much encouragement
> to you.


Why didn't you add Michael Gardner to the list that will share the blame? Isn't it he who did the heinous act that enraged Gordon? It is interesting and telling that once again you are not placing the blame on the sick asshole that is at the center of the story here.

So, why do you continue to deflect the story away from Mike Gardner? What is your agenda here?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 04, 2012 11:27AM

Check It! Pedobear's pal wants to play!! Incredible....... ok, asshole - let's play.
All my crap's on here - show us were I've stated that the rape of Gardner is ok or shown any hatred towards EITHER gender? Aint never said a thing about rape and never showed hatred to ANY woman if I wasnt mad at her for her INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS! I lashed out at the police chief for my percieved lack of action on the part of her troops, which I may have been wrong for (still learning about that) and I've worst I've talked about Robin is about her losing her seat on the council. So go thru this thread, make sure you are intelligent enough to know who YOUR anger is directed at, jackass.

I know my rage, know who should get it and know your idea of a "terrorist threat" is MILES away from what the real thing would be.

I got a rage problem cause assholes like you would rather focus on my interweb words than on helping the community heal.

Oh yeah, if you want to know WHY you are an asshole, voice - re-read the last sentence you wrote. If I became "unhinged" (LoLz, like I'm not now, right?), you see ppl like Father and Wingnut as ones to blame for it!?!?!?!!?!? I mean, really? REALLY? REALLY!?!!? o_0

Check It! THIS GUY WOULD SERIOUSLY BLAME THE INTERWEB FOR RAGE AT HIS PEDO-PAL, and NOT the actions of his pedo-pal. In-FUCKING-credible........



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Voice of Reason ()
Date: May 04, 2012 11:32AM

tell the truth - Because justice has been served in this case. The jury has found him guilty and he will be going away for more than 20 years. I'm not sure what more you want from it, but Gordon clearly wants to "burn down his house," and wants him raped in prison. I'm sorry, but throw in with that kind of person if you want, but I'll choose to stand with the jury, not Gordon. I'll say this again. Mr. Gardner is the only one to blame here, but that's not what Gordon and Wingnut are saying and it concerns me that you support people who are so comfortable with violence.

Since you all seem so intent on throwing around hypotheticals, most pedophiles were abused as children correct? So, was Mr. Gardner abused as a child? You see how Libeling me is circular arguement.

When I say "I don't understand," I'm not saying I don't understand how the jury came to this conclusion or I don't understand how the girls said these things. I mean, which I felt I stated quite clearly, is how a man who has everything throws it all away to do something like this. To basically end your life, to demage these girls and your own children and a reputation you spent a life building is uncomprehensible to me.

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Posted by: Voice of Reason ()
Date: May 04, 2012 11:37AM

Oh and Gordon or lets use your "real name", "Jomamas Pimp"; with a name like that, let's jump to the conclusion you are comfortable being a pimp and therefore comfortable with the enslavement of women.

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Date: May 04, 2012 11:37AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Amazed Onlooker ()
Date: May 04, 2012 11:43AM

Holy shit...GordonBlvd is losing it!

CAPS, underlining, BOLD!

You've probably smashed a few keyboards at this point.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 04, 2012 11:43AM

Voice of Reason- FUCK YOU..

You are obviously comfortable with a child molester as a friend.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 04, 2012 11:46AM

here he goes again. Ok, asshole - pay attention. I've said which I felt I stated quite clearly how it's because of law and order why I WOULDNT burn down his house. I've pointed out repeatedly how the bravery of the girls and how the strength and convictions of their family are things that would keep me from ever doing the crap I'm raging about. And why you keep saying I want him raped in prison..............well I've never said that and dunno why you want me to feel that's a good idea or state that I've even said that.

But fuck all that!! WHO CARES WHAT I FEEL, THINK, SAY, ETC!?!? WHO THE FUCK CARES, ASSHOLE?!? ANSWER - ONLY YOU DO. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ME, OK? I AM NOT PART OF THIS EQUATION, OK AND NOBODY CARES ABOUT WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT.

You know why? Because if I was serious about what I was talking about, it would be DISRESPECTING the families, ok? If I took their choice of getting Gardner locked up away from them, I would be as much an asshole as Gardner, bringing drama, trouble, pain to the community. I know this and you should too.

Now..........about libeling you. Your pedo-pal may or maynot have been abused as a child. But he...........and pay attention now because this id directed to you, ok?.............he DOES NOT HAVE THE FUCKING RIGHT TO CONTINUE THE CYCLE OF PAIN, ASSWIPE!! GET THAT THRU YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL!!!

if you are human, you are NEVER going to understand why he needs little girls to cum until you wake up to the fact he's been doing it for a while.

But you dont care about that do you? Much better to focus on me, right?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 04, 2012 11:49AM

@Amazed - I.T. is gonna start buying them by the gross LoLz
@wing - maybe so....... pedos sometimes run in packs, y'know? Voice may be someone mad that they cant get streaming feed or downloads from Gardner anymore, for all I know...........

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Atticus Finch ESQ ()
Date: May 04, 2012 11:53AM

"ppl like me burning the flesh of yr pedo-buddy, dangling the remains off the 66 overpass so everyone coming into town can see what happens to Pedos."



Wow, that's pretty dam Biblical...who needs a legal system when we have GordonBlvd's homegrown Taliban...


Tell you what, Gordo, why don't you get some of your mouth-breathing friends, storm the jail, torture, castrate, and hang this guy, and you can even proudly pose for photographs with the mutilated corpse dangling over you. Save a few body parts as a keepsake while you're at it.


Thanks, but no need to "pour a quart of 10w30 down my throat."

Wow....

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: tell the truth ()
Date: May 04, 2012 11:55AM

Atticus Finch ESQ Wrote:
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> "ppl like me burning the flesh of yr pedo-buddy,
> dangling the remains off the 66 overpass so
> everyone coming into town can see what happens to
> Pedos."
>
>
>
> Wow, that's pretty dam Biblical...who needs a
> legal system when we have GordonBlvd's homegrown
> Taliban...
>
>
> Tell you what, Gordo, why don't you get some of
> your mouth-breathing friends, storm the jail,
> torture, castrate, and hang this guy, and you can
> even proudly pose for photographs with the
> mutilated corpse dangling over you. Save a few
> body parts as a keepsake while you're at it.
>
>
> Thanks, but no need to "pour a quart of 10w30 down
> my throat."
>
> Wow....


Well, looks like it is pedo sympathizer day here on FFXU. At least these freaks are on here defending their pedo friend instead of trading pedo porn or looking for their next victim.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 04, 2012 11:59AM

So what became of Michael Gardners laptop in the weeks between his arrest and the search of his home?

Answer me, Defenders of the Ped or go the fuck away/


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Voice of Reason ()
Date: May 04, 2012 12:00PM

Wingnut... seriously, you think pre-sentencing points are made on a message board? I'm just stating the obvious fact that no other girls have come forward and there's no evidence he's ever done anything like this before. If there was, don't you think the prosecution would have mentioned it?

I would think that would bring some solace to you. You could make the argument that because these girls were taught to speak out, Mr. Gardner's quick arrest and now conviction prevented him from doing this again and stopped him early in a "career" of harming girls.

The conviction rate on people accused of pedophilia is over 90 percent. The girls said what happened and DNA supported their claims. That doesn't mean the police did a "great job." They were sloppy. It's my understanding from this board that semen and sperm was found on the pajamas, not Mr. Gardner's. What happened to that?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Nature Inspired ()
Date: May 04, 2012 12:06PM

@to tell the truth...

You seem to be quite familar with the language of predators, such as "trading pedo porn or looking for the next victim."


Anything you want to tell us?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 04, 2012 12:07PM

https://www.gofundme.com/WeSUPPORTtheGIRLS
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: tell the truth ()
Date: May 04, 2012 12:13PM

Nature Inspired Wrote:
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> @to tell the truth...
>
> You seem to be quite familar with the language of
> predators, such as "trading pedo porn or looking
> for the next victim."
>
>
> Anything you want to tell us?


Sure. I work closely with law enforcement to see that the laws regarding these sickos is adequate enough to put these freaks away for a long time.

I can see I touched a nerve.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church PD ()
Date: May 04, 2012 12:29PM

"I work closely with law enforcement"

Yeah, sure...

Sorry, you're not going to "touch my nerve," even though you want so much to...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 04, 2012 12:32PM

@tell - I bet that's not all you'd like touching.....
@Wing - I notice he aint as focus on yr questions as he is on my bs..........interesting, eh? We been waiting an hour over here to see when I've been hatin on women and crap LoLz
@Nature - I cant imagine what are running on the other screens on that computer he's typing from :(
@Voice - the other sperm was from dad. It was cause his crap got washed with the girls crap. That's why Gardner's cum was in like a megamillions times more present. That was explained like days ago, yo. And if you can just discount away the fucking REALITY that a guy who was a little girls soccer coach for almost a decade just got convicted on multiple counts of child molestation.........................oh whats the point - we all know how this is gonna end up..............
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: tell the truth ()
Date: May 04, 2012 12:49PM

Falls Church PD Wrote:
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> "I work closely with law enforcement"
>
> Yeah, sure...
>
> Sorry, you're not going to "touch my nerve," even
> though you want so much to...


It is good to see Mike's pedo friends contributing to the conversation. It only bumps the thread higher. Say hello to Nick.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 04, 2012 01:01PM

https://www.gofundme.com/WeSUPPORTtheGIRLS
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 04, 2012 01:08PM

friend, maybe a "business" partner - who knows?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: FCNP history of defending pedos ()
Date: May 04, 2012 01:22PM

Here is Mike's good friend, political ally Nick Benton defending another pedo in print:

(Keep in mind, Gardner and Benton long tried to be the puppet masters of the elected officials in FCC. Gardner was an op/ed writer for Benton's paper.)

By Nicholas F. Benton

We are heartened by the news that came late last night of the plans by the attorney for George Mason High School theatre arts instructor Frank Marino to vigorously fight what he's called the "unconstitutional charges" brought against his client in Prince William County. Indeed, it appears clear on its face that the three counts of "crimes against nature" brought against Marino are flat-out unconstitutional based on the U.S. Supreme Court's Lawrence vs. Texas ruling last summer.

Some Neanderthal politicians in Richmond are trying to keep Virginia's anti-same sex laws on the books through legislative sleights of hand, but none will pass muster with the clear equal rights standard established by the Supreme Court. In this context, it remains to be seen if the choice of the specific charges brought against Marino was based on some political or ideological motive by Prince William prosecutors.

We share and are keenly attuned to the heartfelt grief that has swept over the entire Falls Church community over the arrest last week on charges of sexual involvement with a minor against one of the school system's most esteemed and cherished teachers. While the charge of "indecent liberties with a minor" is serious, guilt or innocence of Mr. Marino will be discerned through the impending court fight. In the meantime, he has the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise.

But not only does this presumption of innocence apply to Mr. Marino, so does much more. Almost everyone familiar with what's gone on at George Mason High School over the past decade knows that Mr. Marino was clearly among the premier "impact" instructors of the institution's entire history. Having covered events and lives of students at this high school over the entire decade of Mr. Marino's involvement there, this newspaper is fully aware of the universal appreciation all the students held for him: Not just the drama students, but all the students who were beneficiaries of his attentive, caring, kind and laughter-filled personality and skill. Under Mr. Marino, for example, there was no hint of the common adolescent cultural antipathy separating drama "types" from jocks. On the contrary, Mr. Marino successfully persuaded many a jock to play leading roles in his beloved plays and musicals.

We are truly concerned about whatever lasting harm was allegedly perpetrated on the under-aged former student in question. But beyond that, we care greatly for the enduring harm to hundreds if not thousands of students, current and future, caused not so much by any trauma associated with the particular charges (most students are more resilient and capable of coping with human fallibility than they're often given credit for), as by prospect of the students' potential loss of access to Mr. Marino's enormous talents.

http://www.fcnp.com/350/comm1.htm

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 04, 2012 01:29PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Voice of Reason ()
Date: May 04, 2012 01:42PM

Wingnut... I never questioned the veracity of an of the evidence. The jury agree with the prosecutor that there was no explanation of his DNA inside the girl's underwear. Again, I've never questioned the evidence or the girls' testimony.

As for the laptop, I'm guessing it was on Mr. Gardner's person. He was not allowed in the home between his arrest and the search warrant so that makes sense. Sorry your Keystone cops did a poor job with the search warrant, but that shouldn't reflect on Gardner.People generally don't turn things over when they're neither asked or required to.

Mr. Gardner's cum was not found anywhere. His DNA was found in the girl's underwear which is in large part why the jury convicted.

You are clearly a police officer in this case as you can't see the potential disaster your department almost caused for the prosecutor.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 04, 2012 01:44PM

@ FCNP history of defending pedos-

The FCNP is shitty paper, I only use to to clean my patio glass and windshield. It has a much better consistency than paper towels.


THe editor Nick Benton doesn't write very well, but I think what he was trying to argue was the difference between the charge if it had been a male studen or female. His point being that a "crime of nature" was sex male on male, and it would have been a different charge altogether had it been male on female.

I could understand the logic from a constitutionalist or libertarian point of view- sex with a male minor is just as bad as sex with a female minor.

But it is kind of weird to devote a column to this, the language may have been different in the charge (crime against nature) but the sentence was probably no different. It's illegal to buttfuck your own wife in VA too, so who fucking cares?

The good news for Micahel Gardner is that he probably has a friend in this Frank Marino fagola who can give him a few pointers on what to expect when he goes downstate.

The bad news for Michael Gardner is that Marino will have NO good news.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 04, 2012 01:52PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: FCNP history of defending pedos ()
Date: May 04, 2012 01:54PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> @ FCNP history of defending pedos-
>
> The FCNP is shitty paper, I only use to to clean
> my patio glass and windshield. It has a much
> better consistency than paper towels.
>
>
> THe editor Nick Benton doesn't write very well,
> but I think what he was trying to argue was the
> difference between the charge if it had been a
> male studen or female. His point being that a
> "crime of nature" was sex male on male, and it
> would have been a different charge altogether had
> it been male on female.
>
> I could understand the logic from a
> constitutionalist or libertarian point of view-
> sex with a male minor is just as bad as sex with a
> female minor.
>
> But it is kind of weird to devote a column to
> this, the language may have been different in the
> charge (crime against nature) but the sentence was
> probably no different. It's illegal to buttfuck
> your own wife in VA too, so who fucking cares?
>
> The good news for Micahel Gardner is that he
> probably has a friend in this Frank Marino fagola
> who can give him a few pointers on what to expect
> when he goes downstate.
>
> The bad news for Michael Gardner is that Marino
> will have NO good news.


I get what he was trying to say, but there are better examples to use than a charge against a pedo.

Nick Benton spent a good chunk of his adult life working for Lyndon LaRouche. That should tell you something right there.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 04, 2012 02:23PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 04, 2012 03:07PM

@Wingnut - that's actually old hat - the LaRouche thingee. Think about Helen and the whole Israeli thingee and how she got her job at FCNP. Small World. And I miss the Volvos. LoLz

@FCNP - especially odd that a so-called COMMUNITY-oriented paper would make that column with that argument in the same city that the victims lived in. Makes ya wonder what sorta "community" the FCNP is actually printing for...........

@Voice - we're still waiting, asshole

here's a pic for yr buddy - dont say I never gave him anything.................
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: tell the truth ()
Date: May 04, 2012 03:10PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> What I can't help but wonder is what if any kind
> of plea bargain was offered?
>
>
> Save this kids the trauma...plead
> guilty...apologize to yhe kids, the parents, the
> community...blame drink/drugs/medication....get
> "treatment"....
>
>
> Michael the PedoFag Gardner might have been able
> to cop this down to 3 or 4 yrs. Wouldn't have been
> a fun 3 or 4 yrs, but he may have been able to run
> free again.
>
>
> NEWSFLASH- Jan.13th 2016--
>
> A 52 year old Falls Church man, convicted of child
> molesatation in 2012, died at Medical Center of
> Virginia after collasping during his work
> assignment in the kitchen of Powhattan
> Correctional Center.
>
> Michael Gardner, who had suffered from congestive
> heart failure, was once a prominent local Democrat
> activist in the City of Falls Church and former
> husband of Robin Sigler, who served as mayor of
> the city last decade.
>
> Gardner, whose appeal was denied in 2013, was
> serving a 22 year sentence for the 2012
> molestation of three girls in his Falls Church
> home during a slumber party hosted by his
> daughter.
>
> In 2013, Gardner survived multiple stab wounds
> inflicted by another inmate at Augusta
> Correctional Center in the western part of the
> state. Gardner was recently transferred to
> Powhattan Correctional Center after a lengthy stay
> in protective custody.
>
> Cause of death is suspected to be heart related,
> but autopsy results will not be made available for
> several weeks."
>
>
> His story will end like this or similarly.


Nah, probably more like this:

52 year old Falls Church man, convicted of child molesatation in 2012, died at the Augusta Correctional Center after ingesting a lethal amount of barbiturates.

Michael Gardner, who had previously attempted suicide by hanging at the Coffeewood Correctional Center in October of 2012, was once a prominent local Democrat activist in the City of Falls Church and former husband of Robin Sigler, who served as mayor of the city last decade.

Gardner, whose appeal was denied in 2013, was serving a 22 year sentence for the 2012 molestation of three girls in his Falls Church home during a slumber party hosted by his daughter.

Throughout his prison stay, Gardner filed numerous unsuccessful civil rights cases agains the Virginia Department of Corrections.

Cause of death is suspected to be suicide by drugs, but autopsy results will not be made available for several weeks."

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 04, 2012 03:19PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: they never stop ()
Date: May 04, 2012 03:53PM

I remember a few years back when they first started the online sex offender registry. There was one that lived near me and a few bleeding hearts objected to the registry as "everyone needs a fresh start and he paid his dues" and all that bullshit. It wasnt a month after he was released he molested another little kid.
His defenders slithered back into the wood pile.
Do I keep an eye on the ones near me your damn right I do. I do not harrass them or bother them but I damn well watch them.


I think you can rehabilitate a thief or drug user but not a child molester. I think they have hard wired to do what they do.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Lucifer Annex 43 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 07:38PM

Is it safe to come out? Have Gordon and Wingnut exausted their passion yet?

Has Voice of Reason--you remember, the "friend of the PEDO Faggot" been (slowly)burned at the stake at a GordonBlvd-hosted auto de fe?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 05, 2012 08:31AM

if yr a fucking pedo, NEVER SAFE TO COME OUT, yo..........
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: BS Meter ()
Date: May 05, 2012 08:34AM

Lucifer Annex 43 Wrote:
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> Is it safe to come out? Have Gordon and Wingnut
> exausted their passion yet?
>
> Has Voice of Reason--you remember, the "friend of
> the PEDO Faggot" been (slowly)burned at the stake
> at a GordonBlvd-hosted auto de fe?
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really, dude? really? that's the best you could do?
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 05, 2012 09:31AM

now THIS! THIS is the way to kill an evil shitmonster


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Tribunal Pharasee ()
Date: May 05, 2012 10:15AM

Rich revenge fantasy life you have going there, GordonBlvd...at least you're not hurting (we hope) people

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon ()
Date: May 05, 2012 10:38AM

Tribunal Pharasee Wrote:
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> Rich revenge fantasy life you have going there,
> GordonBlvd...at least you're not hurting (we hope)
> people
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Not my Kid ()
Date: May 06, 2012 10:36AM

How ironic...the Voice of Reason and Atticus Finch have departed, but the retards GordonBlvd and WingNut, with their rich revenge fantasy lives, remain...AND GordonBlvd keeps posting her little video clips...

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Ive gotten the rage of the pedo community - how cute LoLz
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 06, 2012 12:05PM

my card
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Back to Forum ()
Date: May 06, 2012 01:10PM

Has it occured to you Gordon that you're being trolled?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 06, 2012 11:28PM

Back to Forum Wrote:
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> Has it occured to you Gordon that you're being
> trolled?


Has it occurred to you Mike Gardner's friends still support him? He is known to run with sexual deviants.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Dell ()
Date: May 07, 2012 12:00AM

"He is known to run with sexual deviants"

No kidding? Well, if you know the names of these "deviants," why don't you hasten yourself to the police and report to them, instead of wasting time here.

It's easier and braver for you to post stupid videos and make random anomymous charges...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 07, 2012 09:24AM

Dell Wrote:
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> "He is known to run with sexual deviants"
>
> No kidding? Well, if you know the names of these
> "deviants," why don't you hasten yourself to the
> police and report to them, instead of wasting time
> here.

Are you stupid enough to believe that all sexual deviancy is illegal? I bet you are.

http://nfbenton.com/archives/category/bentons-gay-science


> It's easier and braver for you to post stupid
> videos and make random anomymous charges...

I posted no videos. You are talking pretty brave for a guy that listed his real name. Oh, wait....

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church Playground ()
Date: May 07, 2012 09:43AM

"You are talking pretty brave for a guy that listed his real name. Oh, wait...."




This, coming from a person who plants an anonymous rumor about Gardner's "deviant friends?"

And then you post a link listing your own favorite deviancies?

That's funny.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 07, 2012 09:52AM

Falls Church Playground Wrote:
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> "You are talking pretty brave for a guy that
> listed his real name. Oh, wait...."
>
>
>
>
> This, coming from a person who plants an anonymous
> rumor about Gardner's "deviant friends?"

It isn't a rumor. The deviant confirms it himself.

> And then you post a link listing your own favorite
> deviancies?

OMG! Did someone on the internet just call me gay?!?!? Are you always so original or did you get some burst of inspiration this morning?

> That's funny.

As funny as your pal Mike getting 20+ years? Or, as funny as your friend Nick coming to his side?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 07, 2012 10:28AM

@Falls Church: I think it's as funny as him/her saying you are me just for disagreeing with him/her LoLz

and about "sexual deviancy": they just think it's all illegal since their particular type of sexual deviancy is, y'know?

@backto - yea............still dont know why it's such a pastime, though.

so when's sentencing?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church Playground ()
Date: May 07, 2012 03:01PM

"As funny as your pal Mike getting 20+ years? Or, as funny as your friend Nick coming to his side?"

You obviously didn't major in forensics in high school...


Actually, I'm not a catamite, sodomite, or paedophile, don't know either Mike or Nick, so I wouldn't say we were pals or friends...but thanks your attempt at witty discorse, thanks for playing, and by all means, continue on with your fantasy...

BTW...nobody called you gay...you just brought that up yourself...hmmm

I surrender the "funny" crown to you...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: press reports ()
Date: May 07, 2012 03:13PM

To be honest, from reading the press reports and the back and forth in this thread, one still doesn't have a good idea of the dynamics of the trial. It strikes me the defendant's defense was in the nature of the state simply isn't meeting their burden of proof. Did the defendant take the stand? And while it would be very difficult for a prosecutor to have admitted at trial evidence of prior similar acts (no prior arrests or convictions), the prosecution must have had some sense of his background - indeed - this could come out at sentencing because standards at sentencing are far different than trial.

In any event, I wonder if anyone who attended the trial or followed it closely could inform. What was it that convicted this guy?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 07, 2012 03:22PM

Falls Church Playground Wrote:
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> "As funny as your pal Mike getting 20+ years? Or,
> as funny as your friend Nick coming to his side?"
>
> You obviously didn't major in forensics in high
> school...

Like most people, I didn't major in anything in high school. Also, with this comment, are you somehow implying you possess some superior debate skills as evidenced by your performance in this thread? LOL. Thanks for the laugh.

> Actually, I'm not a catamite, sodomite, or
> paedophile, don't know either Mike or Nick, so I
> wouldn't say we were pals or friends...but thanks
> your attempt at witty discorse, thanks for
> playing, and by all means, continue on with your
> fantasy...

To which fantasy are you referrring? I do not believe that I presented any fantasy throughout this discorse (sic).

Oh, nobody accused you of being a catamite, sodomite, or paedophile. Why the rush and need to defend yourself? hmmm...

> BTW...nobody called you gay...you just brought
> that up yourself...hmmm

Umm, you might want to follow along better.

You implied that I posted "a link listing [my] own favorite deviancies." The link was to Nick Benton's Gay Science.

To summarize, you implied my favorite deviancy was being gay.

Plus, you fell right into your own trap by rushing to claim you aren't a catamite, sodomite, or paedophile. Now it makes it easy to turn it right back around on you. Except here, I am correct that nobody accused you of those activities whereas you weren't.

For a guy who majored in forensics, this whole debate thing seems difficult for you.

> I surrender the "funny" crown to you...

You never owned it.

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Posted by: Voice of Reason ()
Date: May 07, 2012 04:08PM

Mr. Gardner testified. I believe he was convicted because a. this type of crime almost always leads to a conviction. b. the girls in this case were credible, but more than that, the DNA supported their accounts. I'm guessing that's why they could get to a unanamous decision on the one girl, no DNA, and he'll have to face that charge again in September.

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Posted by: Voice of Reason ()
Date: May 07, 2012 04:09PM

*could NOT

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: press reports ()
Date: May 07, 2012 04:44PM

Voice - there were some physicians reports, too, correct? One of the girls visited a physician promptly thereafter? That kind of evidence would be very persuasive among the testimony and DNA reports. But again, it is difficult to grasp a theme of the case. Did he repeatedly visit the room? I find it hard to believe he went from one girl to another without waking up the entire room.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 07, 2012 04:58PM

@press - what voice said. What convicted him was that Gardner committed the crime and left his evidence on the kid's panties. That coupled with the fact the girls where brave enough to tell what happened and cops did their job securing and handling all the evidence (that wasnt hidden, anyways) properly.
@Falls Church - I beg to differ. Him being up at 1 in the morning online defending pedobear? That's pretty funny, yo. You gotta picture the reality of it, my friend...........see what I mean?
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 07, 2012 05:09PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Father ()
Date: May 07, 2012 08:20PM

As someone who had to testify, I could not sit in on most of the trial, but I did get to sit in on the closing arguments and have spoken to those who did attend. What you had was three girls testifying about events that occurred, two of which had DNA evidence to support exactly what they said happened. And Gardner's only defense was to say that he didn't do it. They tried to say that it was too dark in the basement for the girls to see who it was, but that was dispelled by one of the defense's own witnesses as well as the judge looking up that it was clear and a full moon on the night of the incident and the basement has large windows. They tried to say that when you enter a persons home, you are "swimming in a DNA pool" and although that could conceivably(not really according to the experts) explain DNA found on the outside of things, DNA does not migrate so does not explain why it was found on the inside of one girls underwear or why if what they tried to say was true -that it was from the "Pool of DNA"-why his wife and kids or anybody else's DNA was not also found.
In the one sample that was 20.7 quadrillion times more likely him than anyone else, 25% of the DNA sample that was recovered belonged to Michael Gardner the other 75% belonged to the girl. There was no DNA from anybody else. One expert testified that to get a sample where so much came from the Defendant, it had to be wet DNA meaning from sweat, tears, saliva etc. Considering what he did, it is not hard to imagine where that wet DNA came from. The defense did not present any of their own expert witnesses. I presume this is because they could not find any that would be helpful to them. Gardner was hoping that somehow the burden of "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" would not be met.

By the way, a pet peeve of mine, it is not "innocent" until proven guilty, it is "presumed innocent" until proven guilty. A person is guilty when they commit an illegal act and being found guilty or not at trial does not change that. Benjamin Franklin wrote "it is better [one hundred] guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer". And I suspect that is at least how many guilty people escape for every innocent person convicted.

Beyond a reasonable doubt is an extremely high threshold. Just look at the one charge the jury deadlocked on. Without the DNA backing up her story, the defense was able to point out a few inconsistencies in a 10yr old girl's story over the course of the 10 months that this ordeal took that at least one of the jury had a reasonable doubt. I would bet that all of them were at least pretty sure he did it, but in our judicial system, "pretty sure" is not sufficient.

When that charge gets retried, he may get several more years added to his sentence. A new trial date for that charge will be set at sentencing.

Sentencing is Sept 7 and Judge Benjamin Kendrick is not known to reduce jury recommendations. Maximum Benny is a nickname of his.

P.S. Gardner did not have any prior convictions, but if you talk to experts on the subject, and I have with several, they will tell you a 47 yr old man does not just suddenly start molesting children. I saw one statistic that it is believed a pedophile commits on average more than 100 offenses before being caught.



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church Playground ()
Date: May 07, 2012 10:00PM

Falls Church Playground Wrote:
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> "As funny as your pal Mike getting 20+ years? Or,
> as funny as your friend Nick coming to his side?"
>
> You obviously didn't major in forensics in high
> school...

Like most people, I didn't major in anything in high school. Also, with this comment, are you somehow implying you possess some superior debate skills as evidenced by your performance in this thread? LOL. Thanks for the laugh.

> Actually, I'm not a catamite, sodomite, or
> paedophile, don't know either Mike or Nick, so I
> wouldn't say we were pals or friends...but thanks
> your attempt at witty discorse, thanks for
> playing, and by all means, continue on with your
> fantasy...

To which fantasy are you referrring? I do not believe that I presented any fantasy throughout this discorse (sic).

Oh, nobody accused you of being a catamite, sodomite, or paedophile. Why the rush and need to defend yourself? hmmm...

> BTW...nobody called you gay...you just brought
> that up yourself...hmmm

Umm, you might want to follow along better.

You implied that I posted "a link listing [my] own favorite deviancies." The link was to Nick Benton's Gay Science.

To summarize, you implied my favorite deviancy was being gay.

Plus, you fell right into your own trap by rushing to claim you aren't a catamite, sodomite, or paedophile. Now it makes it easy to turn it right back around on you. Except here, I am correct that nobody accused you of those activities whereas you weren't.

For a guy who majored in forensics, this whole debate thing seems difficult for you.

> I surrender the "funny" crown to you...

You never owned it.





Falls Church, how much time did you waste, trying to rebutt me, line by line? Amazing. Agreed, I'm just the pretender to the Funny Crown...I could never rise to your stellar debate skill level..LOL

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 08, 2012 08:52AM

@Father-

Hey my wishes go out to you and your family, I imagine it's a really terrible ordeal to have to fuck around with. Your daughter showed a lot of strength for coming forawrd and hopefully she'll show some serious resilence but still be able to enjoy being a kid while she is.

I forgot there was to be a retrial on the deadlocked count, so technically they may not be done with this until 2013 sometime. I would normally be against trying this charge because the man already faces such a huge sentence, but they might as well pile it on.

Gardner may wind up with another 5-7 years tacked on top of the likely 22 that he'll get. Ouch.


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 08, 2012 09:34AM

@wingnut- I'm all for it :)
@playground - see? told ya ! LoLz
@father or anybody in the know - is Gardner like separated from the rest of the "pack" over there in Clarendontown?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Father ()
Date: May 08, 2012 09:56AM

Initially he may be on suicide watch which I was told involves a room with nothing in it but a minimalistic toilet, a paper jump suit, and a glass wall facing a guards work station.
I've also been told he will be separated from the main prison population with others of his kind as they don't fare to well in the general prison population. I forget where.

Also, I could see him plea bargaining on the last charge in exchange for only one more year or something, but I also thought he would have plea bargained before or even during the trial, so I won't hold my breath.



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Date: May 08, 2012 09:57AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 08, 2012 10:03AM

Falls Church Playground Wrote:
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> Falls Church, how much time did you waste, trying
> to rebutt me, line by line? Amazing. Agreed, I'm
> just the pretender to the Funny Crown...I could
> never rise to your stellar debate skill level..LOL


About 30 seconds, but I won't make fun of you for being slow. Besides, your stupidity has earned at least 30 seconds of my time. Don't you think? Well, I know you don't think, but at least you can agree.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 08, 2012 10:10AM

@ Father-

I'm just curious if you are privvy to whether the CA offered a plea to spare the victims from testifying.

I said here before that I highly suspefct that they would have offered him one. And that Gardner arrogantly moved forward with an unwinnable defense.


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Father ()
Date: May 08, 2012 10:34AM

You nailed it. He arrogantly moved forward without any defense to speak of and never sought a plea bargain. He did get an extra 10 months of freedom out of the deal at a cost of probably close to a million dollars as some lawyer friends have estimated. My daughter's first comment when she was told who Gardner had gotten as a lawyer and who Greenspun was, was "Doesn't that just make him look more guilty?" I had to agree.

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Date: May 08, 2012 10:43AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Father ()
Date: May 08, 2012 10:46AM

He survived some kind of cancer a few years ago that left his lymph nodes messed up. He is very susceptible to infections. This came up during the trial.

He very possibly won't make it 22 yrs in prison.



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 08, 2012 10:56AM

Father Wrote:
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> He very possibly won't make it 22 yrs in prison.

Aww, I am heartbroken.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 08, 2012 11:19AM

Cancer and prison medical care do not mix.


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Date: May 08, 2012 11:23AM

Falls Church Wrote:
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> Father Wrote:
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> > He very possibly won't make it 22 yrs in
> prison.
>
> Aww, I am heartbroken.


He's going to get all the lovin' he can handle....

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: press reports ()
Date: May 08, 2012 11:27AM

Father - your post is exceedingly informative. The fact that the scientific evidence conformed to the testimony obviously made a difference. I feel apologetic that you felt compelled to answer my queries, as this event has to be painful for you and your family.

By the way, while I can understand the emotions behing Gordon Blvd's and Wingnut's posts, I think that in their righteous (and frankly rightful) indignation they are not an addressing a key point. Just what the heck are we supposed to do with these kind of criminals? The science and behavioral studies reflect an incredible rate of recidivism for these kinds of offenders. I suppose we can, as it is likely to be the case here, lock them up for essentially life, but that is hardly a realistic prospect for all cases. Anyone want to bet that if Gardner plea bargained and did not take a chance at trial what kind of sentence he could have received, especially with the high quality of counsel he engaged? A lot less than he is going to receive, is my guess. Do three year sentences stop this kind of behavior? The statistics are depressing. And it would have been a very attractive prospect to have these brave ten year old girls forego a trial, making the incentives to plea bargain on the prosecution side compelling.

This is a reminder that appearances can be deceiving, and that caring adults must be vigilant, even if at times they come off as overprotective nutjobs.

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Date: May 08, 2012 11:55AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: press reports ()
Date: May 08, 2012 02:37PM

WingNut - I have posted under other names. But I have always maintained you are one intelligent guy - rare - in fact - because the street smarts go along with the analytic intelligence. I suspect that you might say you haven't arrived at this position via an easy road - but no matter - I appreciate the dialog and insights. And as I say above, I "get" why you would be passionate about this issue. For what it is worth, I am in the same state of flux as exactly what do with pedophiles.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Wing Blvd ()
Date: May 08, 2012 02:40PM

What do you do with pedophiles? You shoot them in the face, then burn them to ash in an all-redeming fire...that's what you do!

Anyone who says otherwise is a friend of the pedo-fags, and they deserve the same treatment!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 08, 2012 03:12PM

@press - I'll tell you something. I'm not that smart. Not that smart at all. Never gonna be the hottest burger on the grill. And still to this day have no idea why God would allow me to be a parent.
When my boys were young, I was out west with them, doing the single parent thing. While I was out there, this happened.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002900190_webgroene30.html

I always imagined before that incident that if anything like that happened to the boys, I'd not care about spending the rest of my life in jail for killing him, and could NOT understand how other parents could settle for less. t losing my kids.

Then I saw Shasta's dad on the TV - and he taught me what being a father was TRULY all about and how I guess sometimes you have to dig deep. That's the only way I can put it.

all I know is that if he, and guys like Father can follow the pathway of law - then I cant dare do any less no matter what I feel.

All that being said, there is ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING WAY that Gardner will ever be nothing but a THREAT to ALL children.

I can excuse all types of fantasy, no matter how sick in the head it is..........but to bring something like that into REALITY without a consenting partner...........yeah, a person like that is too far gone, cant be helped. No matter what happens , Gardner can be 80-some years old when he gets out, but YOU BETTER ALL BEST KNOW that he will STILL be a risk to children and would do this EXACT same crime again if he was given the chance and knew he could get away with it. At at this EXACT moment you are reading this sentence, Michael Gardner, IF HE COULD, would DEFINITELY do the same thing with any little girl he could come in private contact with, if he believed he could get away with doing it. He WILL continue with that mentality until he dies. He would do this even though he has gone thru this ordeal. If, somehow, right this minute, Michael Gardner could have access to a child and could molester her, he WOULD do it if he could get away with it. Why? Because thats how pedos work - their dicks supersede EVERYTHING

Tell me I am wrong. Gimmie a link shows me different. As for what to do about it? I tell you what I do. Make sure yr kids can tell you crap like this. I've dated girls who've been molested before and have told parents and be told to fuck off, prettymuch. Another girl never told cause she felt she would have been called a slut for being raped back when she was a kid cause her mom was all "high morals". Sad shit but it's real as a heart attack.
Lotsa pedos get away cause the kids dont tell, are afraid to tell. If you run a household make sure yr kids know about bad touch, how they can tell you ANYTHING if they are sad, how if anything does happen that it's not their fault, and how that if someone threatens you the parent (cause that happens too-kid takes abuse to protect fam) to let you know so you can set them on fire or whatever........you know what I mean.

Ok, off my soapbox



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: RedPop ()
Date: May 08, 2012 04:37PM

It doesn't totally add up that Gardner at age 47 would just start suddenly molesting little girls. No convictions, but what was he doing to satisfy these deviant impulses?? His laptop was never recovered?? We are missing some details. Was he messing with his own kids??

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Beyond Over-Overprotective Mom ()
Date: May 09, 2012 12:25AM

After going through all of this for months, it's such a relief to be able to sleep at night (unmedicated), and to wake up every morning knowing that this bogeyman is in jail -- wondering (but not caring) how he's enjoying his time. For those involved in this lively discourse, there is so much information that was never published in the news (and I use that term lightly in regards to the FCNP, who should be ashamed of themselves).

For those doubters out there, while the girls certainly could have been making this up, to our absolute horror, they were not. Physical evidence was found exactly where they said they'd find it. Even if she could have lied while she was awake, at least one girl's dramatically altered behavior while she sleeps does not lie. One of the girls, after four hours on the stand, was goaded into saying she didn't see Mr. G, but it doesn't change how detailed her identification of him was right after the incident. The fact that it was explained to another of the girls, when taking her to the FCPD, that she would be telling the truth – no matter how embarassing – and standing up to do the right thing, aka helping the police, does not mean that she was making things up to participate in a conspiracy. This poor kid, sleeping in between the two other girls during the sleepover, was likely spared that night since he had already addressed her the night before. The fact that the girls were well-spoken and could use adult words does not mean that they were coached; they absolutely were not, as their shocked parents watching their police interviews can attest.

Much was implied by the fact that they didn't scream or cry at the time of the event -- which is ridiculous since they couldn't believe what was happening and certainly didn't know what to do about it. It was also suggested they were lying because they did not tell someone in the house the next morning; instead, they told the first adults they trusted the next morning -- which, oddly enough, was not Mrs. G, since it was into her care that they had been entrusted. Much was made of a vast conspiracy to bring this family down, but two little girls briefly conferring the next morning to make sure that they weren't dreaming only makes sense. These girls told their parents within 20 minutes of being picked up (one before they were out of the driveway), and one of them, when advised of the painful and embarassing exam that would be required, still said "then we have to go, mom." If that's not brave, I don't know what is.

Amazingly, the defendant's own daughter was the turning point of the trial - after she stopped testifying as prepared and began telling things as she actually recalled them, she bolstered the testimony of the girls, not her parents. So much so that the prosecution didn't even need to put her through the stress of cross-examination. Though the DNA evidence was the clincher here, because there would likely not have been a conviction without it, the defense's failure to bring an expert to controvert Dr. Perlin's testimony really says it all. If there had been one out there, they would have spared no expense to present them. The fact that the defendant took the stand doesn't mean he isn't guilty -- as an attorney, he just knew that jurors prefer to actually hear defendants say they didn't do it. He'll have plenty of time to use those expired attorney credentials helping the other inmates file their motions from prison.

While I know that prisons are violent places, I will not lose one moment's peace worrying about his welfare -- and cannot apologize for my attitude. These girls will never be the same, and neither will their parents. All of the counseling in the world will not change what happened. Moving forward with therapy and keeping a positive outlook is great, and the girls are doing this admirably; however, as their parents, even though he's locked up, we will not forget the terrible things his wife said about these girls and how the FCNP (and possibly Mrs. G) even had school administrators thinking the charges would be dismissed, while the parents could not speak publicly about the case for fear of contaminating the jury pool and giving grounds for a change of venue.

To those of you with kids, simply put, no sleepovers ever is the safest bet. This is not an overreaction. For one of the girls, this was the only place she had ever been allowed to stay (without a parent outside of her home), and this still happened -- even with 7 other girls in the same room. If any of us was considered overprotective before, we're sure to be considered zealously overprotective now -- since one of our worst fears has been realized. Also, if something like this ever happens to your child (heaven forbid), be sure to handle and bag the evidence appropriately; it made all of the difference in this case.

To those of you suggesting that we should've known the family better, not only were they FC's "first family," some of the parents knew the family for over three years (or as many as five years), some had been to their home for parties, etc., and the defendant's daughter had spent untold hours at all of these homes. We still could not have conceived of this happening in a room full of kids. He really should have gone with an insanity defense, because you'd have to be stark raving insane to think that you could do this and actually get away with it.

I'm sure no one wants to hear it, but the mantra for other parents throughout this ordeal has been "it could happen to you." I can only hope that the school system and community will do its best to support these girls, and prevent things like allowing Mrs. G into the classrooms with these girls (this actually happened) or making them sit through Career Day listening to her as a role model (this also happened). Her kids have been through the wringer, too, but that doesn't diminish what happened to these three little girls. And she should certainly not be allowed to chaperone school events, entrusting kids to her care, after her deplorable behavior here.

In case you're thinking that the ex-mayor is a poor, maligned woman, please keep in mind that on more than one occasion, when having girls sleep over at her house, she had male guests in attendance overnight and didn't see fit to advise the parents in advance -- seeing nothing wrong with this. She made much of the fact that she left them in a pitch-black basement while she slept on the second floor with two adult men in the house. And if she was petty and vindictive towards the kids involved, it's almost laughable how she treated the Falls Church police in her role as Councilwoman. She was reportedly not above using her position to retaliate against the police and the investigation, as the only member of the Council to vote against the department getting new motorcycles as part of a grant program (which wouldn't have cost the city itself anything).

She and her husband are both despicable, and if she was not directly responsible (which I would argue that she was), she was certainly an enabler and should be called to account for it. When comparing notes after the trial, it became obvious that certain behaviors of her kids, as well as something that happened with Mr. G at his home in the past and the testimony of one of the defense's own juvenile witnesses, certainly indicated that something was wrong. Unfortunately, no one was privy to all of this information before the sleepover. At this point, it's absolutely inconceivable that this was his first venture -- these girls were just the first ones to come forward. You know you're in for a fight when a PTA president (former?) testifies as a character witness to change the defendant's bail conditions to have more time with his kids -- and as it turns out, enjoy his last holidays with them.

To WingNut, thanks for the supportive insight; always engaging and witty commentary. To press reports, thanks for your last message; it helped to soften your prior posts. To hmm, glad to see that you finally came around ... and I believe that Mr. Greenspun's son was advised by one of the parents that he was acting inappropriately during the trial, which was why his seating was changed. To voice of reason, while I see your points, it should be obvious that people are venting about an emotionally-charged issue on this page; rather than being upset by that, and construing their comments to be truly violent, it's best to take such things with a grain of salt (but don't bother with the Raid). And to GordonBlvd, please know that your message to the girls got to one of them, and you got a shy smile and helped her to walk a bit taller that day.

The continued commentary on this site has been cathartic -- thanks to all who joined in the discussion. Even the uninformed and those with what could be perceived as a pro-defense stance. The whole thing has just been disgusting, but seeing the discourse has helped. I thought I could understand how people who had been through such an event might feel, but I wasn't even close. My heart will always go out to those kids who step forward and tell the truth about abuse, and even more so to those who don't have the strength to come forward. And to the parents, whose guilt will haunt them always; you are not alone.

Best wishes to all.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Wingspan ()
Date: May 09, 2012 12:46AM

What do you do with pedophiles? You shoot them in the face, then burn them to ash in an all-redeming fire...that's what you do!

Anyone who says otherwise is a friend of the pedo-fags, and they deserve the same treatment!



I think that was a tongue-in-cheek statement...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 09, 2012 06:51AM

Beyond Over-Overprotective Mom Wrote:
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> After going through all of this for months, it's
> such a relief to be able to sleep at night
> (unmedicated), and to wake up every morning
> knowing that this bogeyman is in jail -- wondering
> (but not caring) how he's enjoying his time. For
> those involved in this lively discourse, there is
> so much information that was never published in
> the news (and I use that term lightly in regards
> to the FCNP, who should be ashamed of
> themselves).
>
> For those doubters out there, while the girls
> certainly could have been making this up, to our
> absolute horror, they were not. Physical evidence
> was found exactly where they said they'd find it.
> Even if she could have lied while she was awake,
> at least one girl's dramatically altered behavior
> while she sleeps does not lie. One of the girls,
> after four hours on the stand, was goaded into
> saying she didn't see Mr. G, but it doesn't change
> how detailed her identification of him was right
> after the incident. The fact that it was
> explained to another of the girls, when taking her
> to the FCPD, that she would be telling the truth
> – no matter how embarassing – and standing up
> to do the right thing, aka helping the police,
> does not mean that she was making things up to
> participate in a conspiracy. This poor kid,
> sleeping in between the two other girls during the
> sleepover, was likely spared that night since he
> had already addressed her the night before. The
> fact that the girls were well-spoken and could use
> adult words does not mean that they were coached;
> they absolutely were not, as their shocked parents
> watching their police interviews can attest.
>
> Much was implied by the fact that they didn't
> scream or cry at the time of the event -- which is
> ridiculous since they couldn't believe what was
> happening and certainly didn't know what to do
> about it. It was also suggested they were lying
> because they did not tell someone in the house the
> next morning; instead, they told the first adults
> they trusted the next morning -- which, oddly
> enough, was not Mrs. G, since it was into her care
> that they had been entrusted. Much was made of a
> vast conspiracy to bring this family down, but two
> little girls briefly conferring the next morning
> to make sure that they weren't dreaming only makes
> sense. These girls told their parents within 20
> minutes of being picked up (one before they were
> out of the driveway), and one of them, when
> advised of the painful and embarassing exam that
> would be required, still said "then we have to go,
> mom." If that's not brave, I don't know what is.
>
> Amazingly, the defendant's own daughter was the
> turning point of the trial - after she stopped
> testifying as prepared and began telling things as
> she actually recalled them, she bolstered the
> testimony of the girls, not her parents. So much
> so that the prosecution didn't even need to put
> her through the stress of cross-examination.
> Though the DNA evidence was the clincher here,
> because there would likely not have been a
> conviction without it, the defense's failure to
> bring an expert to controvert Dr. Perlin's
> testimony really says it all. If there had been
> one out there, they would have spared no expense
> to present them. The fact that the defendant took
> the stand doesn't mean he isn't guilty -- as an
> attorney, he just knew that jurors prefer to
> actually hear defendants say they didn't do it.
> He'll have plenty of time to use those expired
> attorney credentials helping the other inmates
> file their motions from prison.
>
> While I know that prisons are violent places, I
> will not lose one moment's peace worrying about
> his welfare -- and cannot apologize for my
> attitude. These girls will never be the same, and
> neither will their parents. All of the counseling
> in the world will not change what happened.
> Moving forward with therapy and keeping a positive
> outlook is great, and the girls are doing this
> admirably; however, as their parents, even though
> he's locked up, we will not forget the terrible
> things his wife said about these girls and how the
> FCNP (and possibly Mrs. G) even had school
> administrators thinking the charges would be
> dismissed, while the parents could not speak
> publicly about the case for fear of contaminating
> the jury pool and giving grounds for a change of
> venue.
>
> To those of you with kids, simply put, no
> sleepovers ever is the safest bet. This is not an
> overreaction. For one of the girls, this was the
> only place she had ever been allowed to stay
> (without a parent outside of her home), and this
> still happened -- even with 7 other girls in the
> same room. If any of us was considered
> overprotective before, we're sure to be considered
> zealously overprotective now -- since one of our
> worst fears has been realized. Also, if something
> like this ever happens to your child (heaven
> forbid), be sure to handle and bag the evidence
> appropriately; it made all of the difference in
> this case.
>
> To those of you suggesting that we should've known
> the family better, not only were they FC's "first
> family," some of the parents knew the family for
> over three years (or as many as five years), some
> had been to their home for parties, etc., and the
> defendant's daughter had spent untold hours at all
> of these homes. We still could not have conceived
> of this happening in a room full of kids. He
> really should have gone with an insanity defense,
> because you'd have to be stark raving insane to
> think that you could do this and actually get away
> with it.
>
> I'm sure no one wants to hear it, but the mantra
> for other parents throughout this ordeal has been
> "it could happen to you." I can only hope that
> the school system and community will do its best
> to support these girls, and prevent things like
> allowing Mrs. G into the classrooms with these
> girls (this actually happened) or making them sit
> through Career Day listening to her as a role
> model (this also happened). Her kids have been
> through the wringer, too, but that doesn't
> diminish what happened to these three little
> girls. And she should certainly not be allowed to
> chaperone school events, entrusting kids to her
> care, after her deplorable behavior here.
>
> In case you're thinking that the ex-mayor is a
> poor, maligned woman, please keep in mind that on
> more than one occasion, when having girls sleep
> over at her house, she had male guests in
> attendance overnight and didn't see fit to advise
> the parents in advance -- seeing nothing wrong
> with this. She made much of the fact that she
> left them in a pitch-black basement while she
> slept on the second floor with two adult men in
> the house. And if she was petty and vindictive
> towards the kids involved, it's almost laughable
> how she treated the Falls Church police in her
> role as Councilwoman. She was reportedly not
> above using her position to retaliate against the
> police and the investigation, as the only member
> of the Council to vote against the department
> getting new motorcycles as part of a grant program
> (which wouldn't have cost the city itself
> anything).
>
> She and her husband are both despicable, and if
> she was not directly responsible (which I would
> argue that she was), she was certainly an enabler
> and should be called to account for it. When
> comparing notes after the trial, it became obvious
> that certain behaviors of her kids, as well as
> something that happened with Mr. G at his home in
> the past and the testimony of one of the defense's
> own juvenile witnesses, certainly indicated that
> something was wrong. Unfortunately, no one was
> privy to all of this information before the
> sleepover. At this point, it's absolutely
> inconceivable that this was his first venture --
> these girls were just the first ones to come
> forward. You know you're in for a fight when a
> PTA president (former?) testifies as a character
> witness to change the defendant's bail conditions
> to have more time with his kids -- and as it turns
> out, enjoy his last holidays with them.
>
> To WingNut, thanks for the supportive insight;
> always engaging and witty commentary. To press
> reports, thanks for your last message; it helped
> to soften your prior posts. To hmm, glad to see
> that you finally came around ... and I believe
> that Mr. Greenspun's son was advised by one of the
> parents that he was acting inappropriately during
> the trial, which was why his seating was changed.
> To voice of reason, while I see your points, it
> should be obvious that people are venting about an
> emotionally-charged issue on this page; rather
> than being upset by that, and construing their
> comments to be truly violent, it's best to take
> such things with a grain of salt (but don't bother
> with the Raid). And to GordonBlvd, please know
> that your message to the girls got to one of them,
> and you got a shy smile and helped her to walk a
> bit taller that day.
>
> The continued commentary on this site has been
> cathartic -- thanks to all who joined in the
> discussion. Even the uninformed and those with
> what could be perceived as a pro-defense stance.
> The whole thing has just been disgusting, but
> seeing the discourse has helped. I thought I
> could understand how people who had been through
> such an event might feel, but I wasn't even close.
> My heart will always go out to those kids who
> step forward and tell the truth about abuse, and
> even more so to those who don't have the strength
> to come forward. And to the parents, whose guilt
> will haunt them always; you are not alone.
>
> Best wishes to all.


All is said and said well.

Best wishes to your family and strength to children everywhere.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 09, 2012 12:55PM

@Beyond - all I can say is that it was my honour to point out her/their strengths. I pray that is what she takes away from this event. Thank you for sharing with us information that FC"N"P refuses to cover, and like wingnut said , prayers for all involved in this............

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 11, 2012 10:31AM

Welcome to the VA Sex Offender Registry, Mr. Gardner:

http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/offenderDetails.html?regId=37129

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: May 11, 2012 10:44AM

I like the "Home" address.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Really?? ()
Date: May 14, 2012 08:32PM

Divorce proceedings? Hearing that calls have been made to certain attorneys....

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 15, 2012 09:52AM

Reno odds would say that soon after Mikey is unable to give Robin the his whole 2 inches, she'd look elsewhere for it. Prolly someone who used to be close to him or both of them............unless she was already stepping off the porch (if you know what I mean) before his pedo-plays came to light................

man, does Mikey look suave in his pedo-pic, dont he?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Moving? ()
Date: May 15, 2012 10:05AM

Really?? Wrote:
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> Divorce proceedings? Hearing that calls have been
> made to certain attorneys....


Real estate agents called?

House was purchased in 1996 for $221,000, but rebuilt in 2003. It is assessed at over $1M. That is probably a hard mortgage payment on a single mom.

I guess you could always tap Mike's retirement. He won't be needing it.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 15, 2012 10:44AM

so ok, question for anybody "in the know".......

jokes all aside, is Robin still "connected" in the FC.....or is she a pariah now?
I mean, can she go to Giant and not get hissed out? If y'all Mustangs see her out and about, do you just let her go about her business? Do you start talking real loud about her husband? Do you go up to her and tell her how you "feel for her"? Does she even leave her house? Does she simply drive out to Fairfax or Alexandria to do shopping? "Enquireing" minds want to know!!! LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: whereabouts ()
Date: May 15, 2012 10:54AM

She wasn't at the city council meeting last night.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Salem Bitchcraft ()
Date: May 15, 2012 11:14AM

"so ok, question for anybody "in the know".......

jokes all aside, is Robin still "connected" in the FC.....or is she a pariah now?
I mean, can she go to Giant and not get hissed out? If y'all Mustangs see her out and about, do you just let her go about her business? Do you start talking real loud about her husband? Do you go up to her and tell her how you "feel for her"? Does she even leave her house? Does she simply drive out to Fairfax or Alexandria to do shopping? "Enquireing" minds want to know!!! LoLz"



What a gleeful woman you are...That would be just your style, Gordon, to "hiss out" this woman when she was in public. Does that make up for the fact that you couldn't burn her husband at the stake? Why don't you get together with a coven of your redneck harpies and cut off this woman's hair, or make her wear a giant red letter on her clothing. Your hand-wringing, self-congratulatory concern in this case is quite touching...now why don't you go away...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 11:16AM

I wouldn't know her if I saw her. But I don't want to see her.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Poplar ()
Date: May 15, 2012 11:22AM

Salem Bitchcraft Wrote:
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> "so ok, question for anybody "in the know".......
>
>
> jokes all aside, is Robin still "connected" in the
> FC.....or is she a pariah now?
> I mean, can she go to Giant and not get hissed
> out? If y'all Mustangs see her out and about, do
> you just let her go about her business? Do you
> start talking real loud about her husband? Do you
> go up to her and tell her how you "feel for her"?
> Does she even leave her house? Does she simply
> drive out to Fairfax or Alexandria to do shopping?
> "Enquireing" minds want to know!!! LoLz"
>
>
>
> What a gleeful woman you are...That would be just
> your style, Gordon, to "hiss out" this woman when
> she was in public. Does that make up for the fact
> that you couldn't burn her husband at the stake?
> Why don't you get together with a coven of your
> redneck harpies and cut off this woman's hair, or
> make her wear a giant red letter on her clothing.
> Your hand-wringing, self-congratulatory concern in
> this case is quite touching...now why don't you go
> away...


Well, it appears Robin is posting on FFXU.....

If you aren't Robin, let me know where in FCC you live. I wouldn't want my kids near a pedo sympathizers house.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 15, 2012 12:20PM

@poplar - apparently, we are supposed to understand and sympathize............ o_0

@Salem - wow, arent we a little uptight. Sounds like yr scared we may find out EXACTLY what's on yr laptop too, eh? For the record, never said I'd do anything to her I was just asking what the Falls Church vibe is like - why you'd pick "hissing" out of all the choices...........well that just speaks volumes about your guilty mind now, doesnt it? Sounds like you are afraid of what may happen to you if you are found out, is what it sounds like.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Salem Bitchcraft ()
Date: May 15, 2012 02:12PM

@Salem - wow, arent we a little uptight. Sounds like yr scared we may find out EXACTLY what's on yr laptop too, eh? For the record, never said I'd do anything to her I was just asking what the Falls Church vibe is like - why you'd pick "hissing" out of all the choices...........well that just speaks volumes about your guilty mind now, doesnt it? Sounds like you are afraid of what may happen to you if you are found out, is what it sounds like.



Of course, you were just "asking what the Falls Church vibe is like," and "you'd" never "do" anything, Gordon, but passivly suggesting that others do "something," is just your style. Not sure how the word of yours I quoted; "hissing," intimates that I have a guilty mind, and your clumsy attempt to hint that I'm afraid of being "found out" for...something...is as laughable as your logic.

I could equally charge that your spittle-flecked anger would indicate that YOU have something to hide, and that you are accusing others to deflect attention from yourself, is what it sounds like...

"Reno odds would say that soon after Mikey is unable to give Robin the his whole 2 inches, she'd look elsewhere for it."

Are you drunk when you type shit like this? You seem to be way fixated on Micky.

Just sayin'...

LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 15, 2012 02:19PM

@Salem.....
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: PDA 75 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 10:31PM

@GordonBlvd If I might ask, what brings up your passion in this case? I could understand it if you had been sexually assaulted as a child.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 16, 2012 08:22AM

@PDA-dont be stupid. YOu dont need to be black to hate racism. Dont need to be gay to hate homophobia. Dont need to have common sense to hate Philly Fans, and dont need to have been raped to hate rapists.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Concerned Falls Church Resident ()
Date: May 16, 2012 10:03AM

I believe the person was refering to your anger and your CAPS filled ravings. One example, "ASSWIPE!! GET THAT THRU YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL!!!" in reference to a question that was asked about this case.

That's among many quotable quotes of yours.

Seriously, you should seek therapy if you walk around with this much anger.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 16, 2012 10:11AM

LoLz if you can "see" my anger thru a keyboard

check it out, Concerened. If you are all coolsville about Gardner trying to rape children, I say you are the one that needs therapy. Size 11 therapy right up yr ass, yo.

p.s. the good ppl on the jury, the strength of the familes victimized, and the BRAVERY OF THOSE LITTLE GIRLS gave me all the therapy I need on this :)

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Yawn ()
Date: May 16, 2012 01:40PM

"If you are all coolsville about Gardner trying to rape children, I say you are the one that needs therapy"



Again, you're putting words in people's mouths. When your meds kick in, give me one example in this entire thread of someone being "cool" about Gardner trying to rape children.

Just relax and post another photo of a Corgi...that might calm you down.

Size 11...you have large feet for a woman...

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like you know anything about adult women......... LoLz
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 17, 2012 09:51AM

talk about yawn. Your pedopals are pretty lame with the trolling, Gardner. Anyone who's focused more on me than the topic at hand.............well if you can ignore the topic at hand over me then something WRONG with you which kinda leads me to think ppl like that are "cool" about Gardner trying to rape children..........cause ppl like that are WRONG as well.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Yawn II ()
Date: May 17, 2012 10:07AM

@GordonBlvd...it really is all about you, isn't it. Yet again, give me ONE example of ANYONE in this thread being "cool" with child molestation?

Just one.

Try re-reading that last sentence you wrote and see if it makes any sense.

So now I'm either Gardner himself or a "pedopal."

That's funny.

Don't you have a neighbor's pit bull to poison or something?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 17, 2012 11:04AM

@yawn-cant make you see what you dont want to. So you win a no-prize for whatever it is you are trying to win. I never make any sense so yr not telling anybody anything new LoLz

And yeah, apparently it is all about me since you keep responding to me, and not talking at all about the topic matter.

p.s. my neighbors are all WWWAAAAYYY too intelligent to risk their kids' lives or the lives of children in the neighborhood with such an animal.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Sick to my stomach ()
Date: May 17, 2012 12:58PM

Just picked up today's FCNP. Front page announces Gardner to appeal. Can anyone explain to me what grounds he would have for an appeal? Didn't he get a fair trial by a jury of his peers? I'm sick to my stomach.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: May 17, 2012 02:28PM

More money for the lawyers. Interestinger and interestinger.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 17, 2012 02:37PM

Michael Gardner will bankrupt his family putting up this defense. Can't believe his wife is willing to to throw literally everything away. They won't even have a home when this is over.

The News Press only "learned" this because Nick Benton is still the only person in town that'll talk to the Gardners. Check the visitor logs. I bet he visits Mike in Jail.


Michael Gardner Attorney Readies Appeal
By FCNP.com
Wednesday, May 16 2012 05:38:28 PM
The News-Press has learned that Peter Greenspun, attorney for Falls Church resident Michael Gardner convicted earlier this month for the sexual assault of two young girls, is currently preparing an appeal of the conviction.

Arlington Circuit Court Judge Benjamin Kendrick's sentencing in the cases, based on the jury guideline of 22 years in jail, is not due until early September, when a component of the case involving a third girl, declared a mistrial by Judge Kendrick, will also be retried. In September, Kendrick could reduce Gardner's penalty, but not increase it above the jury's recommendation.



Read more at FCNP.com: http://www.fcnp.com/news/11831-michael-gardner-attorney-readies-appeal.html#ixzz1v9ZUPXAD

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what's sad is that whatever it will be will be VERY similar to this...........
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 17, 2012 02:39PM


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WTF! ()
Date: May 17, 2012 02:39PM

Those little girls have been through enough. I hope he is killed in prison. Bastard!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: May 17, 2012 02:41PM

Or, if you remember back a few years to Ken Lay of Enron fame, he died before his appeals were finalized, and it was as if his conviction never even happened. Maybe that's what Mikey is going for?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: May 17, 2012 02:43PM

If he puts enough salt in his food, maybe he will stroke out before he has to do too much hard time.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 17, 2012 02:55PM

might be he just wants to see the girls again................it could be something as sick as that..............

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 17, 2012 02:58PM

22046 Wrote:
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> Or, if you remember back a few years to Ken Lay of
> Enron fame, he died before his appeals were
> finalized, and it was as if his conviction never
> even happened. Maybe that's what Mikey is going
> for?


Doubtful that Mike gets bail pending the outcome of his appeal. If he does, my money is on him running.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 17, 2012 03:02PM

yeah, I could see him running.................
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Dust Off ()
Date: May 17, 2012 03:16PM

Somebody sure loves posting images of Pedo Bear!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 17, 2012 03:18PM

it kinda has to do with the topic at hand, Dusty............
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: LOL! ()
Date: May 17, 2012 03:18PM

I love the photo! I hope Mr Gardner has a slow and painful life. He wife too.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: May 17, 2012 03:59PM

@Falls Church said: Doubtful that Mike gets bail pending the outcome of his appeal. If he does, my money is on him running.


I doubt he'll get out on bail either. My understanding (I'm not a lawyer) is that if someone dies before appeals are exhausted, the conviction is set aside and it's as if it never happened. Maybe that's why MG didn't cut a plea deal. I don't know and never will.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: loosen up, Michael Gardner ()
Date: May 17, 2012 04:21PM

LOL! Wrote:
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> I love the photo! I hope Mr Gardner has a slow and
> painful life. He wife too.


News from DoJ today:

Nearly one in 10 prisoners suffer sexual abuse while incarcerated in state prisons, local jails and post-release treatment facilities, according to a report published Thursday by the U.S. Department of Justice.

A quarter of those who reported they had suffered unwanted sexual contact at the hands of other inmates said they had been physically held down or restrained and a quarter had been physically harmed or injured. Nearly a quarter (23 percent) reported serious injuries, including anal/vaginal tearing (12 percent), chipped or lost teeth (12 percent), being knocked unconscious (8 percent), internal injuries (6 percent), knife/stab wounds (4 percent) or broken bones (4 percent), according to the survey of former prisoners.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: May 18, 2012 05:06AM

Maybe the basis for his appeal will be "perversion" of justice?!?!

In any case, more buckaroos for the lawyers...the only winners in this case.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 18, 2012 07:56AM

@22046 +1 :)

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: KYN ()
Date: May 21, 2012 01:05PM

Falls Church Wrote:
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> Welcome to the VA Sex Offender Registry, Mr. Gardner:
>
> http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/offenderDetails.html?regId=37129


Note this part: "Violent: Yes"

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: May 21, 2012 01:26PM

I suspect that means he won't be placed in any of the lesser security institutions. He may end up at Red Onion for his own protection. Being locked away for 23 hours a day would suck, but it beats becoming Bubba's...woman, which is probably the only other alternative for him.

As the saying goes, you do the crime, you do the time.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 24, 2012 02:12PM

Robin Gardner missed another Council meeting.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 24, 2012 03:45PM

is she still even in town or has she left it? Anybody know? Do you think if she is gone will she ever return?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ma Kettle ()
Date: May 24, 2012 04:13PM

You sound awful curious, Gordon...just go to Giant and stone her...get it over with..

LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 24, 2012 04:22PM

Ma Kettle Wrote:
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> You sound awful curious, Gordon...just go to Giant
> and stone her...get it over with..
>
> LoLz


Pfft. Like any good resident of the 22046, Mayor Gardner shops at Whole Foods!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: mad ()
Date: May 24, 2012 04:30PM

Retired Mayor Gardner needs to do her own daughter a favor and move out of Virginia. Poor girl.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 24, 2012 05:05PM

@mad-I cannot even imagine what Gardner's kid is going thru with all this
@Falls +1, but not true - puh-LENTY of y'all staying loyal to Giant that place is always packed.
@Ma- you do know that YOU are the ONLY person this ENTIRE thread who has EVER mentioned harming Ms. Gardner, don't you?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: False Church ()
Date: May 24, 2012 06:28PM

"YES ASSHOLE! I HAVE A RAGE PROBLEM"


I thought this thread was about molested kids, but it's obviously about Gordblvd and his/her drama...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 24, 2012 06:33PM

@false - only if you want it to be. The rest of us are gonna just go ahead and focus on the topic at hand, k? You go on ahead and rage away o_0

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: May 24, 2012 07:14PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Falls +1, but not true - puh-LENTY of y'all
> staying loyal to Giant that place is always
> packed.


Those are the folks from 22043 and 22042 we let come shop in our city!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Female Devil seen ()
Date: May 24, 2012 07:35PM

I seen her! I seen her! Praise the Lord, I seen her walkin to the generl store, and when she saw me she attempted to greet me, but I said, "Get thee behind me, you imp from Hell! I will not correspond with thee nor will I speak with thee! Thou shall be cast into a lake of fire for all eternety!" "Miss" Gardner started to cry and other Devil tricks, but I hardened my heart and would not respond to her wiles. Constance Goody and Sister Solomon will vouch for the verity of my statement.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: @ the @sign ()
Date: May 24, 2012 07:38PM

"YES ASSHOLE! I HAVE A RAGE PROBLEM"


I believe that was your quote, Gordon...look it up...yo

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 24, 2012 09:40PM

@.....um, well @@: yeah........we got that. Most of us also notice THIS TOPIC AINT ABOUT ME so we kinda wonder why YOU are the ONLY one bringing me up twice in one day. Got Obsess?

@Female - Ha Ha (Job 39:25 KJV) :)

@Falls - I dunno...........I'm sure there's a lotta y'all sometimes creeping up that hill and realize it's gonna be 10-12 months till you even get a glimpse of Iydlwood and you just say "**** it, I'll just go here" LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Too Subtle for me ()
Date: May 24, 2012 10:12PM

I dunno...........I'm sure there's a lotta y'all sometimes creeping up that hill and realize it's gonna be 10-12 months till you even get a glimpse of Iydlwood and you just say "**** it, I'll just go here" LoLz




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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 25, 2012 08:12AM

@Too - think of where the Giant is and how you get to Whole Foods from there maybe that'll help

I was gonna put a picture of it up, but I'm instead going to put this picture that for some reason came up when I typed "Broad Street Falls Chruch" into Google. Perhaps someone can explain why it came up to me LoLz
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: kdubz ()
Date: June 09, 2012 01:57AM

I know MG and his wife. They are both very full of themselves. Although I feel bad for her and their kids, I hear she talked about the victims. If true, I hope her teeth rot out. I can't wait for him to be moved out of County and into the Pen', dude will not make it long. He won't be able to handle the life and that is before he even gets a train ran on his caboose. He doesn't have fight in him, I see a lot of fetal position and crying in the corner in his future. He is known to talk a lot of shit, even publicly and in print... how do you think that behavior will fly coming from this pudgie, upper crust, assclown? Mike I see a lot of DNA deposits coming your way.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Falls Church ()
Date: June 12, 2012 03:43PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @.....um, well @@: yeah........we got that. Most
> of us also notice THIS TOPIC AINT ABOUT ME so we
> kinda wonder why YOU are the ONLY one bringing me
> up twice in one day. Got Obsess?
>
> @Female - Ha Ha (Job 39:25 KJV) :)
>
> @Falls - I dunno...........I'm sure there's a
> lotta y'all sometimes creeping up that hill and
> realize it's gonna be 10-12 months till you even
> get a glimpse of Iydlwood and you just say "****
> it, I'll just go here" LoLz


Those of us in FCC know how to avoid Rte. 7. That road is just a revenue make for all ya'll passing through. Barbour Lane makes a nice alternative to get to Whole Foods.

Also, looks like Robin got a new job.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robin-gardner/3/b59/418

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: grody ()
Date: June 13, 2012 01:30PM

Falls Church Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @.....um, well @@: yeah........we got that.
> Most
> > of us also notice THIS TOPIC AINT ABOUT ME so
> we
> > kinda wonder why YOU are the ONLY one bringing
> me
> > up twice in one day. Got Obsess?
> >
> > @Female - Ha Ha (Job 39:25 KJV) :)
> >
> > @Falls - I dunno...........I'm sure there's a
> > lotta y'all sometimes creeping up that hill and
> > realize it's gonna be 10-12 months till you
> even
> > get a glimpse of Iydlwood and you just say
> "****
> > it, I'll just go here" LoLz
>
>
> Those of us in FCC know how to avoid Rte. 7. That
> road is just a revenue make for all ya'll passing
> through. Barbour Lane makes a nice alternative to
> get to Whole Foods.
>
> Also, looks like Robin got a new job.
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robin-gardner/3/b59/41
> 8


What a bunch of lucky new coworkers she has.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Tell us ()
Date: June 13, 2012 01:39PM

No link.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: dum bitchsssssss ()
Date: June 13, 2012 01:52PM

Director, Business Development
REI Systems
Privately Held; 501-1000 employees; Information Technology and Services industry
May 2012 – Present (2 months) Sterling, VA

VERY excited to start working with some great people at REI Systems! Now...I need new business cards.

I guess she has to drive out far out to sterling to get a job. Maybe someone should inform the company she works for. What a dumb cunt look how "happy she is and excited" never mind molesting the children.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: June 13, 2012 02:46PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: makes me wonder ()
Date: June 20, 2012 05:42PM

Scuttlebutt indicates Mrs. G might be looking for a rental in Arlington (nice and close for those conjugal visits and close to mom-in-law, I guess), but who knows. No idea if the kids will be staying in this school or what. Just a reminder they have 2 kids, a boy and a girl, and both have exhibited odd behaviors in front of others. I suspect we should be concerned for the boy as well, maybe even especially so, in the absence of a father figure/role model.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: A Harsh Judge ()
Date: June 20, 2012 05:47PM

The sins of the father shall be visited upon the children. Kill them all and let God sort them out.

Would that make you fucking happy?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 20, 2012 07:47PM

A Harsh Judge Wrote:
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> The sins of the father shall be visited upon the
> children. Kill them all and let God sort them
> out.
>
> Would that make you fucking happy?


and what in the FUCK did you have for lunch to turn you into such an asshole?

If you EVER mention killing Gardner's children again on this site, I swear .............................well you know what? You are so much of a cuntface for even bringing it up the first time I doubt an asskicking would change anything for you.
Fuck you, dude. "Makes me wonder" was showing CONCERN for those kids after what they must be going thru and you somehow twist that into killing them? Fuck you HARDCORE, yo.....................

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: A Harsh Judge ()
Date: June 20, 2012 08:02PM

Is that a threat, Gordo?

You sound angry AND hurt.

Let's see, where's that butthurt form I keep for you?

Why don't you go bother 2concerned, or the family of a suicide victim

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Dazed and Confused IVI ()
Date: June 20, 2012 08:58PM

Um, I think "HarshJudge" is quoting the bible, and is being S.A.R.C.A.S.T.I C.


@GordonBlvd, please calm down. The use of the "F-Bomb" and your other choice of words makes you look like a redneck with anger-management issues.

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even though, I guess "redneck" isnt really race-specific now, is it?
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 20, 2012 09:46PM

@dazed - you seem to miss the "would that make you fucking happy" part of Harsh's response. Was just returning in like kind, thank you very much. And yes, bringing up Gardner's kids in this whole thing pisses me off - could care less what you think of my race (or what you think my race is LoLz)

@Harsh - I am cause your mom must have killed herself the moment you were born :)

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Dazed and Confused IVI ()
Date: June 20, 2012 10:39PM

"you seem to miss the "would that make you fucking happy" part of Harsh's response. Was just returning in like kind, thank you very much"


Overlooking Harsh's use of "fucking,", I am saying he is being sarcastic, probably concerning the violence espoused by some of the posters here, and it seems you had just the reaction he was looking for.


"could care less what you think of my race (or what you think my race is LoLz)"


What did I say that made any mention of your race?


It would behove you to read and think before responding to posts

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Dazed and Confused IVI ()
Date: June 20, 2012 10:44PM

behoove, not "Behove"

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It would behove (sic) you to read and think before responding to posts LoLz
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 20, 2012 11:23PM

@Dazed - sarcasm is funny. Talking about the death of those kids who didnt do shit to anybody and are dealing with enough crap in their lives aint funny. - and about race? read the title of my last post ;)

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Dazed and Confused IVI ()
Date: June 21, 2012 07:50AM

@GordonBlvd, After taking the time to read your numerous posts on this subject, it appears I was mistaken; you're not a redneck, you're a violent, unducated, unfunny redneck, who feigns hand-wringing concern for these children as an excuse to fantasize about forcing someone to be drink a quart of motor oil, setting someone on fire, and throwing someone off a bridge, "Size 11 therapy right up yr ass, yo," ""YES ASSHOLE! I HAVE A RAGE PROBLEM,"etc, etc. And anyone who isn't in your amen-corner is a pedo-fag, or some other colorful term.

I'm a newcomer to this site, but your nonsensical insertion of random photos in your comments is just about as amusing as your folksy diction and spelling ("aint," "yo," "prolly,".

You claim to have children. Do you act out like this around them? Would you let them see what you are posting here?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 21, 2012 08:00AM

@Dazed - first off, taking time to read my numerous posts is quite a pathetic pastime and might be indicative of mental illness - I'm just telling ya cause the lsat person who was that into my posts................well here's the link: http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/921849.html - if you want to be like that, that's all on you then LoLz

anywho, this is a GROWNUP site - we responsible parents try to (operative word try LoLz) keep our kids off this site. I know my kids arent too interested in this crap. When they get older, maybe they will visit..........but I doubt it will happen until they are mature enough to handle the horrible "dirty words"

My kids arent allowed at Ibiza or Ultra either - we grownup dont always act the same in "adult areas" the same way we do around the kiddies. Not. Rocket. Science.

p.s. pedos piss me off. Attacking innocent kids pisses me off. So yes, asshole - I have a RAGE problem when it comes to these things. Dunno why if you arent a pedo or pedo supporter why anyone would care about it, though.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Dazed and Confused IVI ()
Date: June 21, 2012 01:47PM

pedos piss me off. Attacking innocent kids pisses me off. So yes, asshole - I have a RAGE problem when it comes to these things. Dunno why if you arent a pedo or pedo supporter why anyone would care about it, though.
.
.
.

Amazing. I ask you a simple question, and I'm not only an asshole, but apparently, also a supporter of pedophiles. You're grasp of logic would be amusing if it weren't so sad.

I'm sure you're a prize parent, with anger issues like you have. You can spell the word, Grownup," but acting like one is a different matter.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Rose HIll Pitbull Assn. ()
Date: June 21, 2012 04:06PM

Don't let it bother you. If everyone who thinks GordonBlvd is an asshole is a pedophile, then this website is NAMBLA Headquarters!

LoLz

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Seriously! Why are all these ppl all focused up on me and the crap I say? Like I've got ANYTHING to do with this thread topic o_0
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 21, 2012 07:34PM

@Rose - if that's what yr into.....................
@Dazed - you must be a little confused cause you actually asked two questions i guess. Never thought you were seriously looking for an answer though, which is why I didnt bother with one. And yeah, I suck at parenting, not to mention at being a grownup. Nothing you can do about so stop taking all I say so seriously...........or thinking that I have ANY logic at all. LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Interested in Arlington ()
Date: August 14, 2012 08:39PM

Sentencing and possible new trial on the third charge (on which the jury hung) set for September 7. Sounds like appeal(s) cannot move forward until this occurs. Maybe he'll try to appeal any determinations made by CPS, too.

Suspect there might be more than a few supporters of Mr. G and his wife there. Wonder if there will be some there to rally around the victims and promote a tough sentence. Assuming the courtroom is open to the public, of course.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: one who knows ()
Date: August 15, 2012 02:10AM

The court room will be open to the public, however. The judge has the discretion to clear the court room if the child needs to testify. Not likely. Probably be a quick sentencing (22 years) then set some dates. He wont go down state for another few months. But HE IS SCHEDULED FOR TRANSFER TO STATE CUSTODY. Arlington won't do Robin any good. Southwest Virginia would be a better choice if she chooses to stick by this predator. And live "near" him. God help those kids. And her remaining cash.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: goodforyou ()
Date: August 15, 2012 07:38PM

He should be getting setteled into his new diggs just in time for the Holidays. Merry Christmas. His new roommates will call him
"Cho - Mo". And that will be the BEST thing that will happen to him. As a father of two daughters and from fathers everywhere, ROT IN HELL MICHAEL GARDNER. Take it like you deserve it. You do. And goodbye.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: ForSure ()
Date: August 21, 2012 01:44PM

So, just so I understand. MG will be sentenced on Sept 7 for the 3 convictions (the 22 year sentence from the jury) and might also begin a trial on the original charge the jury was hung?

Thanks.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: one who knows ()
Date: August 22, 2012 05:00AM

ForSure Wrote:
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> So, just so I understand. MG will be sentenced on
> Sept 7 for the 3 convictions (the 22 year sentence
> from the jury) and might also begin a trial on the
> original charge the jury was hung?
>
> Thanks.

Correct. He will be sentenced to 22 years on the 7th. Kendricks will not reduce the sentence. That's a done deal. An appeal is expected but will not likely move forward until the remaining charges are resolved. It looks like the evidence is not as strong in the remaining charges as it was in the original trial and charges, so don't expect much more time for Mr. Gardner than 22 years. The Commonwealth of VA has no parole, so 22 years is 22 years. Done deal. We all hope his wife will not spend the rest of her life assets on appeals. It is a lost cause. He did it, and the prosecution dotted all the "I's and crossed the. "T's". Looks like Wallens Ridge or Red Onion for Mr. Gardner. Sorry buddy. Gonna be a long road.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: August 22, 2012 06:46AM

I wonder if he will ever make it out?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: one who knows ()
Date: August 22, 2012 02:29PM

He is smart. And crafty. I bet he will see the light of day again.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ted Hanson ()
Date: August 22, 2012 03:11PM

I wonder if he will ever make it out?


Maybe he'll rat on another pedobear like you and get a few years taken off his sentence...LoLz!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: August 23, 2012 09:00AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Lucidity ()
Date: August 23, 2012 10:36AM

"I've been on this thread screaming for blood"

Why yes, you have.

LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: August 23, 2012 10:42AM

Lucidity Wrote:
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> "I've been on this thread screaming for blood"
>
> Why yes, you have.
>
> LoLz


No apologies.


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Arlington ()
Date: August 23, 2012 12:35PM

Judge Kendricks will not reduce the 22 year sentence. He has never reduced a jury recommended sentence. Michael Gardner will get his 22 years. He can, however get out after serving 85% of the time if he gets credited for good behavior.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: August 23, 2012 04:42PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: BananaNutMuffin ()
Date: August 25, 2012 09:21PM

Too bad, so sad.
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Elbow Protection ()
Date: August 25, 2012 10:09PM

Yes! I WIN!

I had a disagreement with Robin sometime before all this came down, and at the time I thought "Every dog has its day" and let it go.

22 years. That's 154 dog years, or 56,210 dog days. HA!




You sound like a real winner...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Slash ()
Date: August 30, 2012 02:43PM

So did the G's sell their house?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: doesn't look like it ()
Date: August 30, 2012 03:06PM

Slash Wrote:
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> So did the G's sell their house?


Nope. Hasn't been listed and it is still in the name of Michael and Robin Gardner. They are probably running through his retirement to make payments or they are getting money from family to make the payments. Given that it was built brand new in 2003 and that it is assessed at over $1M, I doubt they own it outright.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: TheNorthman ()
Date: August 31, 2012 08:20AM

Open

I have you now.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Someone ()
Date: August 31, 2012 02:57PM

Maybe they are renting it. Seems to be a new family living there.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: none for me ()
Date: August 31, 2012 03:38PM

Someone Wrote:
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> Maybe they are renting it. Seems to be a new
> family living there.


God, can you imagine living in a house where such horrendous crimes took place?

Yuck.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Driveoverhisballswithasteamroller ()
Date: August 31, 2012 03:48PM

Scumbag will not go quietly.

Michael Gardner Files Motion for Acquittal Or New Trial Ahead of Sept. 7 Sentencing
BY NICHOLAS F. BENTON   
FRIDAY, AUGUST 31 2012 03:32:12 PM
Attorneys for Falls Church resident Michael Gardner, found guilty on three counts of child molestation last spring and facing sentencing in the Arlington Circuit Court on Sept. 7, filed an 11-page motion for an acquittal or a new trial backed by 36 pages of facts in the case, in the court yesterday. "From the earliest stages of the investigation, there were assumptions of guilt on the part of law enforcement...The lynchpin of the American justice system, the assumption of innocence until guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, never attached in this case due to the perceptions about the case from the earliest stages," the motion states.
The evidence presented in the trial, it states, "even with all the procedural defects that impermissibly tilted the outcome in favor of a conviction, never rose to the level of proof beyond a reasonable doubt." Gardner was prejudiced, it states, as "every aspect of the pretrial proceedings was highly publicized with law enforcement and the City of Falls Church giving ready access to any reporter who would ask about sensitive case-related information," allowing "unsubtantiated prejudicial and false information" to be circulated throughout the region.
The motion challenges the "leading and suggestive questions" with the "overarching goal of having the children...corroborate the investigators' and Commonwealth's presupposition that Mr. Gardner committed the crimes charged. It notes that in September 2011, when DNA results had been returned, despite appeals to the contrary, "the Commonwealth immediately made the results part of the public record. Somehow the press was instantly aware of the filing and there was a firestorm of media attention. However, the media reports were gravely inaccurate, claiming that Mr. Gardner's sperm had been found in the pajama bottoms of (one alleged victim--ed.). In fact, the forensic report said the contrary: the results indicated that Mr. Gardner was excluded as a contributor of the sperm." It states that when a follow-up examination occurred, "Ironically, it was the sperm of (parent's name--ed.) the father of the complainant, whose sperm was found.
"To this date, the Falls Church Police Department, Child Protective Services, and every other local and state agency has abstained from conducting an investigation into how and why (parent's name--ed.) sperm was found within the internal crotch of his daughter's pajamas." The motion also cites the parents of the alleged victims "willfully misleading the prosecution and providing false statements, the one-sided handling of the child witnesses in the trial, the court's limiting of testimony attesting to Gardner's "lack of abusive propensities and good character," and the court's swift decision to order a mistrial in the case of the jury's indecision on a fourth count, "depriving Mr. Gardner of his opportunity for having this jury deliberate the proper outcome of the counts charged, in contravention of his rights," given that "the jury had not indicated it was irreversibly hung."


Read more at FCNP.com: http://www.fcnp.com/news/12513-michael-gardner-files-motion-for-acquittal-or-new-trial-ahead-of-sept-7-sentencing.html#ixzz259fRVWLV

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: TheNorthman ()
Date: September 01, 2012 12:36PM

open sesame

I have you now.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: September 10, 2012 11:13PM


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 26, 2012 09:25AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Adipochre ()
Date: September 26, 2012 08:53PM

Yawn...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: September 27, 2012 07:56AM

@father - gotta LOVE the judge :)

@wingnut - sad reality is that we may NEVER know exactly how much the Gardner kids actually do know how much trash their dad is.
For all we know, the Gardner kids are FAR more "intimate" with knowledge on their father :(

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: So What? ()
Date: September 27, 2012 09:29AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @wingnut - sad reality is that we may NEVER know
> exactly how much the Gardner kids actually do know
> how much trash their dad is.
Why is it sad that we don't know this and why should we care?

> For all we know, the Gardner kids are FAR more
> "intimate" with knowledge on their father :(
For all we know, the Gardner kids have less "intimate" knowledge of their father. Who cares?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Get Lost ()
Date: September 27, 2012 09:58AM

For all we know, the Gardner kids are FAR more "intimate" with knowledge on their father :(


What a rich fantasy life you have, Gordon...now please go away

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 27, 2012 10:10AM

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Gardner's a man of HIGH QUALITY, Gordo - he'd NEVER touch his own children!!
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: September 27, 2012 10:24AM

cause, y'know............that would just be WRONG!!! o_0



@wingnut - i pray to God you are right...........but where there's smoke, y'know?

@get - yeah, a pedo wanting children. I'm just grasping at straws on that one................cause they never attack their own is that what you believe?
Seriously, wtf?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Enough ()
Date: September 27, 2012 10:54AM

The kids have a tough, tough road ahead with a father locked up and a mother who is a blithering insane bitch in denial.




And you're making it better for them by constantly posting your bullshit and bring up this sad situation to more people? Do you think you're really contributing anything of value?

How about you just let the kids get on with their lives...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 27, 2012 11:18AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Dazed Onlooker ()
Date: September 27, 2012 04:15PM

OK, so anyone who doesn't kiss your ass is a "pedofag."

That's just about your speed.

Sorry, not a "pedofag," and don't even know the Gardners.

Given your other illogical posts, I'm surprised you haven't blamed Obama for what Gardner did.

Have you noticed that the madder you get, the worse your spelling and grammar get?


By all means, keep posting and keep all us Pedofags laughing

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 27, 2012 04:36PM

Dazed Onlooker Wrote:
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> OK, so anyone who doesn't kiss your ass is a
> "pedofag."
>
> That's just about your speed.
>
> Sorry, not a "pedofag," and don't even know the
> Gardners.
>
> Given your other illogical posts, I'm surprised
> you haven't blamed Obama for what Gardner did.
>
> Have you noticed that the madder you get, the
> worse your spelling and grammar get?
>
>
> By all means, keep posting and keep all us
> Pedofags laughing

Let us know how your buddies appeal goes.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Dazed Onlooker ()
Date: September 27, 2012 07:18PM

Wow, it's hard to deal with a wit such as yours.

Unfortunately, I don't know the person, so your argumentative house of cards is falling down. You seem to have a far more intimate knowledge of Gardner and his goings on than anyone else...hmm.

And...Sorry, Cotton Mather, it's "buddy's," not "buddies," incidentally.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: September 27, 2012 08:16PM

@dazed - lol whut?

@wingnut - it's a thread about children being sexually assaulted. So you know it's your grammar that's most important here, wingnut.

@enough - yes, yes - we should never speak of such things again. ALWAYS better to sweep such things under the table, right? Which Dioceses are you with again? LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: A Harsh Judge ()
Date: September 27, 2012 08:29PM

Hey GordonBlvd, how about you and your partner wingnut letting the Gardner family (specifically the kids) enjoy some degree of anonymity as they try to get on with their lives instead of revving up this thread again...or are you two having too much fun being the gay village scolds?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 27, 2012 08:52PM

A Harsh Judge Wrote:
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> Hey GordonBlvd, how about you and your partner
> wingnut letting the Gardner family (specifically
> the kids) enjoy some degree of anonymity as they
> try to get on with their lives instead of revving
> up this thread again...or are you two having too
> much fun being the gay village scolds?


Since you asked so nicely...

My posts will be gone as soon as your PedoPal exhausts his appeals, I've always maintained a pity for their children and I hope that that a sober and rational family member takes custody.

Or if I hear that the former Mayor of Falls Church has apologized publicly to the kids and the families of her hubby's victim.

Post will be deleted, I said that months ago.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Another Falls Church Resident ()
Date: September 27, 2012 11:06PM

What an idiot. You have an odd idea of "pity."

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 28, 2012 06:38AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Yet another Falls Church Residen ()
Date: September 28, 2012 10:15AM

"Dickwad," "pedo," "faggot,"...all in one sentence...wow

And the always reliable "Fuck you." I bet it took a long time for you to come up with that one.


Can't argue with crystaline logic like that.

Do you kiss your children with that mouth?

Just leave the Gardener children alone.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Sycamore St ()
Date: September 28, 2012 10:52AM

Your dickwad, faggot pedo friend could have had this go away quietly and taken a plea bargain, probably would have gotten 5 years or less...


He chose a life sentence because he thought he could lawyer up and bully some little girls in the courtroom...

Some people I still know in the Gulch who know about the case say the wife has been a royal cunt about this too...

Hmmmmm...

Maybe the Gardners SHOULD HAVE WORRIED ABOUT THE CHILDREN? Their own and the victims..

Your friend and compatriot has an appeal going, and it will go nowhere and probably bankrupt his wife and affect his childrens future... Do you think he is doing the right thing? You want CLOSURE and RESPECT while this douchebag is still denying the hurt he caused?

Mikey- Drop your appeals and embrace the fact you are a sick pup and will die in a downstate blockbox....

Robin-STFU and give the apologies that you owe, be a mother to your children, NOT an imprisoned pedophiles wife in denial.


I was done with this thread months ago, but came back from vacation and saw Fat Mikey had been sentenced.

It's NEWSWORTHY.

FUCK you.


Your one prize asshole. Better go back on vacation

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Dumbshit ()
Date: September 28, 2012 11:10AM

OK, I admit I'm a dumbshit, but I don't understand how the DNA got on the kids' clothes. Was it semen, blood, spit, sweat, or something else? How did it get from his body to theirs? Was this addressed at the trial?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 28, 2012 12:24PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Go Away, Thanks. ()
Date: September 28, 2012 05:30PM

2013 is gonna be an INTERESTING YEAR for one fat pedofag!


Are you planning on doing something interesting?

LOL

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Tag Team? ()
Date: September 28, 2012 07:21PM

OK, I admit I'm a dumbshit, but I don't understand how the DNA got on the kids' clothes. Was it semen, blood, spit, sweat, or something else? How did it get from his body to theirs? Was this addressed at the trial?.
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You might want to ask Wingnut. He has an alarmingly detailed knowledge of this case, almost as if he were there too!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: September 28, 2012 08:27PM

@tag, go away - lol whut?
@wingnut - I wonder how much if their kids college $$$$ is going to dad's defense fund?
@dumbshit - dunno if they ever said (or if they even know) what the source of the DNA was. But it's pretty odd and not NORMAL at all for yr neighbor's DNA to be found on yr babygirl's panties, dontcha think?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Not the Spelling Police ()
Date: September 29, 2012 09:16PM

"My posts will be gone as soon as your PedoPal exhausts his appeals."


No please, keep your posts up, Wingnut, and keep your posts coming. They're reliable proof of what a fucking asshole you are.

You must giggle every time you type "pedopal," or "pedofag."

And your overheated reference to Gardner getting a "dick in the ass"...sounds like you've been working on your gay prison romance novel.

At least you're not stalking the Gardner children...or maybe you are...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: October 01, 2012 05:06PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Go Away, Thanks. ()
Date: October 01, 2012 05:29PM

I'm done in this topic, so please don't ask me back... Just ask yourself though- WHY ARE YOU STILL DEFENDING THIS PUNK?..




No one asked you here in the first place.

And...No one here is "defending" Gardner. Go back and look at all the posts--taking a break to look at your "wit" in your previous postings...show just ONE person "defending" Gardner. You have an unhealthy fascination with Gardner and you're arguing with yourself at this point.

Just do the right thing and leave the Gardner family alone...the husband is in jail and the family is trying to pick up the pieces. They don't need you to keep bringing up the Gardner name--think about the Gardner kids, instead of patting yourself on the back for inventing "funny" words like "PEDOPERV."

It would be nice if you would actually follow up on your threat and stop posting here, but you're too much of an asshole for that.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: October 01, 2012 05:32PM

Go Away, Thanks. Wrote:
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> I'm done in this topic, so please don't ask me
> back... Just ask yourself though- WHY ARE YOU
> STILL DEFENDING THIS PUNK?..
>
>
>
>
> No one asked you here in the first place.
>
> And...No one here is "defending" Gardner. Go back
> and look at all the posts--taking a break to look
> at your "wit" in your previous postings...show
> just ONE person "defending" Gardner. You have an
> unhealthy fascination with Gardner and you're
> arguing with yourself at this point.
>
> Just do the right thing and leave the Gardner
> family alone...the husband is in jail and the
> family is trying to pick up the pieces. They
> don't need you to keep bringing up the Gardner
> name--think about the Gardner kids, instead of
> patting yourself on the back for inventing "funny"
> words like "PEDOPERV."
>
> It would be nice if you would actually follow up
> on your threat and stop posting here, but you're
> too much of an asshole for that.

The family is "tryig to pick up the pieces" by DENYING Michael Gardners guilt and angling for another day in court to attack some young girls on the witness stand.

Am I wrong???

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Go Away, Thanks. ()
Date: October 01, 2012 05:37PM

Wow, a response in 3 minutes....I thought you were leaving

Yes, you are wrong..and you're still an asshole.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: October 01, 2012 05:45PM

I'm serious this time, I'm leaving.
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: send him downstate NOW ()
Date: October 09, 2012 02:30PM

The fuckstick was sentenced over a month ago. Why hasn't he been sent to a real prison, or at least Coffeewood for initial intake? Why are they letting him serve his time in the posh ADC?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: October 11, 2012 08:23AM

@send - it prolly is just paperwork.......but it could be $$$$$ keeping it held up, i dunno
@wingnut - funny how goaway could never admit to defending Gardner even though last thing he/she said was leave alone the person funding his defense o_0

and yeah, you are wrong............or at least that pic is - LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Troof ()
Date: October 11, 2012 09:13AM

I'm really curious about your reading skills, Gordon...read again what goaway wrote...feel free to move your lips...no one is defending Gardner.

I guess you're mad since you got so spanked when you tried being a blowhard on the missing hish schooler thread and had to come back here to get a hug from wingnut

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notice they follow me fromk thread to thread - like leeches in a swamp LoLz
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: October 11, 2012 03:29PM

@troof - his wife is................but since you're so obsessed with me and not the topic at hand I can see how you missed that part of it..................................

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Not even close ()
Date: October 11, 2012 04:07PM

Oh yes, the ever-reliable Gordon response #43554...anyone who doesn't agree with you is obsessed with you...

You pulled that clunker out with your recent teenage suicide thread..you made lots of friends there, Gordo.


Please feel free to continue posting.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: To Gordon Blvd ()
Date: October 11, 2012 04:32PM

Can I see your breasts again? Forgot to save the picture.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: October 11, 2012 04:54PM

ok, I'll bite..........

@not - if yr not obsessed then why is it you are, if not into anything I'm saying, responding to me (by name, even) - just curious why yr incapable of ignoring me, is all o_0
@To Gordon - ask yr mom she's got TONS of copies ;)

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Re: notice they follow me fromk thread to thread - like leeches in a swamp LoLz
Posted by: HOA MGR ()
Date: October 12, 2012 01:37PM

A simple click on his name revealed this.

User Profile : Gordon Blvd
Email: Hidden
Real Name: Apparently Caleb something or another............ o_0
Posts: 5,113
Registered: 03/20/2011 11:24PM


Then another simple click to see his recent posts allows you to pull the curtain back. It also allowed me to do a quick cut-n-paste into these threads to enlighten.

63 posts per week for 81 weeks
over 8 posts per day for the last 572 days

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gardner a sociopath ()
Date: October 12, 2012 03:25PM

ARLINGTON, Va. (WUSA) - The similarities between what Jerry Sandusky and Michael Gardner said at their sentencings were "stunning" to Dan and Kristina Rice whose daughter was molested by Gardner. They see many parallels in the two cases, beginning with the fact that the two men had big reputations.

Gardner was an attorney and had been the head of the Falls Church Democratic party. His wife is a former Falls Church City mayor and councilmember.

Despite indisputable evidence which found Gardner's DNA on the crotch of one girl's underpants, which was key in the jury's conviction, friends and family members, including his wife, refuse to believe he did it. And on his sentencing day September 7th, Gardner offered no apology. Instead, he said he had been "falsely accused and wrongly convicted."

Dan and Kristina Rice were not surprised neither Sandusky nor Gardner admitted their crimes.

"They're still fighting it. They think there's a chance they can get out. If you're going to appeal, you can't really apologize. Also, they still both have wives that love them and families who support them. And if they ever did admit it, they could lose that," said Dan Rice.

While Jerry Sundusky, 68, will die in prison, having been sentenced to at least 30 years in prison, Gardner, 49, received 22 years behind bars.

"It's very frightening, because the fact is, Gardner could be out in his 70s and molesting children again."

Also, both Sandusky and Gardner blamed their victims at their sentencings. Gardner said in court, "A cry for help has been hijacked and that has cast us into darkness."

"Each of the parents though he was talking about their own daughter. We assumed it was our daughter, but each of the parents thought he was talking about their daughter. There wasn't one child. There were three children," said Kristina Rice.

Clinical Psychologist Dr. Kacie Fisher says, "Pediphiles who act on their sexual fantasies, who concurrently have positions of status, power and authority, is that they tend to be highly narcissistic and have sociopathic tendencies."

She says they have incredibly inflated egos and are impervious to criticism, putting people in their lives who will support the image they've created.
"They tend to lead dual lives. They can enjoy these positions of status and power, while having secret dark fantasies that they may or may not act on, but typically involve gratifying these impulses to harm others, and they tend to never feel remorse," Dr. Fisher said.

She said they often create a web of lies and enjoy a rush when they act out their dark fantasies.

If they ever do admit to wrongdoing, they will make many excuses and rationalize and often blame the victim.

A major difference between the Sandusky case and Gardner's is that in Gardner's, the victims came forward immediately and were believed. The Rices' daughter learned about "good touch bad touch" at school and to tell a trusted adult if a "bad touch" ever happened.

But after the incident, she told her parents she wished she also been taught what do when the assault was happening. What she did do, and testified to in court, did get him to stop fondling her "girl part." She rolled over, knocking his hands off her, and pretended to wake up.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: PurpleMonster ()
Date: October 12, 2012 03:59PM

22 years seems light if they want to make sure he never does it again. Assuming he loses the appeal, how much time is he actually going to serve? 10 years and probation after that? He's going to be out before 70.

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BREAKING NEWS!! Gordon Blvd posts alot on Fairfax Underground!!!
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: October 13, 2012 02:16PM

do all crazy ppl not understand that we already know I use this site alot? LoLz

@purple - it sounds light but it really isnt - in fact I think it's like the close to the max he could get for the crimes (i could be wrong on that) and I think yeah, he will be serving all the time. VERY doubtful he could manage to see 70 on the outside.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS!! Gordon Blvd posts alot on Fairfax Underground!!!
Posted by: Glad he is gone ()
Date: October 13, 2012 02:50PM

In Virginia, there is no early parole. They abolished it in 1995 for felonies. They do have a parole that the judge can order to occur after the sentence is completed for up to three years which he did in this case. So after the 22 years are served, he will be out, but on parole for another 3.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS!! Gordon Blvd posts alot on Fairfax Underground!!!
Posted by: Glad he is gone ()
Date: October 14, 2012 03:22PM

Actually, I was slightly off. The law is that a felon has to serve 85% of his term before they're eligible for parole. But considering the nature of the crime, it may be unlikely he will get out even those few years early.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: DOC # ()
Date: November 01, 2012 11:29AM

Looks like Gardner finally got his DOC #

http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/offenders/locator/results.cfm?OffenderId=A63DC1728BFA712A&LastName=4CCC582B2CC76ECB&FirstName=A99B2F600FA2F37B

Only a matter of time before he get sent down to Coffeewood and then further on down state.

Any bets on how long the creep lasts?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: mslydiaz ()
Date: December 22, 2012 01:11PM

Actually I am an avid reader just sort of lazy is all didnt realise what a public
forum this is not unlike the public stockyards.

But did wish to apologise to the community at large for my posts after further
evaluation of the facts of the case and my initial knee jerk reaction to try to make sense of the senseless and to try to find the good in the bad I defended that which is not defendable.

I can only pray for the soul of my former friend that he will find time to reflect and ask forgiveness for his heiness crimes and that his wife and children will have time to heal and to come to peace.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: mslydiaz ()
Date: December 22, 2012 01:43PM

After careful review I have changed my mindset in reference to Michael Gardner
I now believe the evidence is conclusive that he is in fact guilty of that which he is charged and I wish to comment to the community as I was trying to make sense of the senseless. I actually experienced cognitive dissonance hoping upon hope that it couldnt be true. I am a passionate person who is fiercely loyal and
not always accepting of ugly truths which is not a bad quality to have in real estate as I treat each person's home with the same zeal and fervor that I would my own. I would like to express my sympathies to the wife and kids may they find peace in this holiday season.

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another piece of work. just incredible.
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: December 22, 2012 05:37PM

In-effing-credible................

......................you know, why bother. You obviously arent gonna care about them anyways as you arent even thinking about them now after all this, so why bring it up? Rant erased. But I will just throw out that for someone so passionate, it's kinda funny who you've choosen to (and NOT TO) pray healing for..................

Merry Christmas, Kiddos!! YOUR BRAVERY STILL LIVES! IS STILL REMEMBERED!!!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Obscure Reference ()
Date: December 22, 2012 09:36PM

It is better to say nothing and be thought of as an idiot, than to speak and be known as GordonBlvd...

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If bringing bullshit like this to light is idiocracy, then sign me up!
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: December 23, 2012 09:07AM

@obscure - only cowards stand by and say NOTHING when it comes to pedophilia.

FUCK YOU AND THOSE WHO WOULD STAND SILENT IN FACE OF SUCH CRIMES.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Quoting Obscure Reference ()
Date: December 23, 2012 10:34AM

@obscure - only cowards stand by and say NOTHING when it comes to pedophilia.

FUCK YOU AND THOSE WHO WOULD STAND SILENT IN FACE OF SUCH CRIMES.



Oh noes, GordonBlvd is getting wound up AND butthurt at the same time...

After you have a nice cup of tea, compose yourself and give one...one...example of anyone here standing silent in the face of such crimes, defending such crimes...just one...if anything, this society tends to overeact in many cases of accusations of child abuse, Sean Lannigan, being one recent example, of an innocent man having his life ruined by overzealous police and prosecutors....

Gardner is going to jail for a long time...the system worked...OK?...who remained silent in this case? Please expound, if you're able

And just two days before Christmas, you're screaming "FUCK YOU" at someone...tsk, tsk. Gordon...that certainly shows your level of intelligence, maturity and Christian forbearance.

You're a sad little zealot who is doomed to have a miserable angry life...

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pedofiles and their supporters piss me off - what can I say?
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: December 23, 2012 01:06PM

@Quoting Obscure Reference - and my mommy dresses me funny LoLz

just curious - what parish separates levels of Christianity like the way you believe in? Never knew there were diff levels of God's Holy love.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: GordonBlvd is a Theologican? ()
Date: December 23, 2012 03:14PM

BAM! GordonBlvd got schooled....again!



Sounds like someone got your number, GordonBlvd.


LoLz

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notice how they hang on liek my every word, hang on like every little thing I type? cute, aint it?
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: December 23, 2012 09:20PM

@theo-yes, they "beat" me. I'm so ashamed!
ROFLMAO@U taking pride in someone "schooling" (i.e. trolling) Gordon Blvd

y'all really should start a new thread if you really wanna focus on me LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Scarlet Letter ()
Date: December 23, 2012 11:18PM

notice how they hang on liek my every word, hang on like every little thing I type? cute, aint it?




Um, I believe the posters were pointing out that you're a blowhard asshole with marginal writing and comprehension skills (see above), who elbows his/her way into many threads, yet contributes absolutely nothing...these people aren't trolling; they're stating facts.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Someone ()
Date: January 09, 2013 07:15AM

Original at http://fallschurch.patch.com/articles/gardner-appealing-sexual-battery-conviction contains links to other articles.

Gardner Appealing Sexual Battery Conviction
Lawyer for Michael Gardner said it could take months to have an appeals hearing.

By Andre L. Taylor

Former Falls Church resident Michael Gardner, who was convicted of molesting two girls at his daughter’s sleepover in 2011, is appealing his 22-year prison sentence.

Robin Gardner, Michael’s wife, said they knew immediately after the trial they would be appealing the conviction. She said Gardner receives letters from family and friends and can have visitors twice a week for 20 minutes each.

“He’s doing as well as to be expected,” she said of her husband in a telephone interview Tuesday. “He has a lot of support from family and friends.”

Gardner’s legal team, headed by Fairfax City-based attorney Peter Greenspun, filed the appeal on Jan. 2. Gardner was found guilty in May after he was accused of touching two girls in a sexual manner during a birthday sleepover for his daughter. The girls were 9 and 10 at the time. The prosecution introduced DNA evidence they said didn’t exclude Gardner who took the stand in his own defense in April. The two victims also took the stand during the trial. Greenspun said the appeal process could take several months.

Greenspun said the Arlington County Circuit Court, where Gardner’s trial was held, has time to respond to the Petition for Appeal. Any arguments would likely come in three to six months after a brief is filed. He said he isn’t introducing any new evidence at any appeals hearing.

“We feel very confident the Court of Appeals will see that the decisions in the circuit were wrong and that the remedy is new trials so the evidence can be properly and fully heard and considered,” Greenspun said Tuesday.

Gardner will remain in prison while any appeals hearings are carried on and his family and other supporters have vowed to continue to be in his corner. The Gardner’s remain steadfast in the belief Michael is innocent and that the Court of Appeals will see the miscarriage of justice that occurred during the trial, and will overturn the conviction.

“Michael and his family remain strong, committed to the process, and hopeful the obvious errors made during the trial will be noted and overturned. The family is frustrated at the process and at the situation they are facing, but continue to support each other and continue to hold strong to their faith and love,” Maya Jerome, Gardner’s sister, said in a written statement.
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"accused of touching two girls in a sexual manner"
Um, no. He was convicted on two counts of aggravated sexual assault and one count of object sexual penetration.

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I may be a blowhard but at least I dont cum on children.
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: January 09, 2013 07:23AM

translation: he's still horny, Gardner's family's and friends still in Cairo swimming in the river (and caring WAY more about him than about ANY kids (present OR future) in their community, apparently), and YOU THE TAXPAYER are gonna pay more to keep him away from kids

Good Morning.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: January 24, 2013 08:22PM

Well, he now has a release date....June 2, 2031. Betting pool anyone?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: ADC ()
Date: January 25, 2013 01:46PM

22046 Wrote:
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> Well, he now has a release date....June 2, 2031.
> Betting pool anyone?


Yeah. But why is he still being housed in the Arlington County Detention Center. He shuold at least be in a reception and classification facility by now.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: January 25, 2013 01:50PM

His anus is undergoing orientation in anticipation of a rousing welcome from the most eligable bachelors in gen pop at the big house.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: January 25, 2013 01:54PM

@ADC - $

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: travesty ()
Date: January 25, 2013 02:29PM

ADC Wrote:
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> 22046 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well, he now has a release date....June 2,
> 2031.
> > Betting pool anyone?
>
>
> Yeah. But why is he still being housed in the
> Arlington County Detention Center. He shuold at
> least be in a reception and classification
> facility by now.


Look at this place:

http://www.arlnow.com/2010/08/06/a-look-inside-the-arlington-county-jail/

He gets his own room with a window. This place looks like a hotel that you can't leave, not a prison. Send his ass downsatate now!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: college boy ()
Date: January 25, 2013 02:36PM

Nicer than what I lived in during college.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Long Timer ()
Date: January 25, 2013 04:57PM

Don't worry, he's a D. He'll be out of jail in no time and the drones will elect him to office.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: dieing breed ()
Date: January 25, 2013 07:12PM

Under many other circumstances I'd agree with you Long Timer, but I'm pretty sure this one's a keeper.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: January 25, 2013 07:17PM

does anybody SERIOUSLY know if he is being in the County jail longer than any other inmate would be? Is the Virginia Dept of Corrections showing favoritism to this particular inmate? Can anybody shed any light on the time period it normally takes for a pedo around here to go from jail to prison?

or it this just a normal thing?

edit - gotDAMN, that is a nice jail. Oh, Arlington................you guise are so funny sometimes LoLz



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: hmm he firmly says he's innocent ()
Date: January 25, 2013 07:56PM

Not having any thorough knowledge of this case, some thoughts none-the-less...

"DNA evidence"...what the fuck does THAT mean?

The girls were staying at his house, ovenight. Did they use the same toilet he used? Did they let their panties hit the ground in front of the toilet or did their butts hit the back part of the toilet seat they sat on?

When they brushed their teeth, did they lean against the sink?

They actually found SPERM from one the girls' dads on someone's clothes. Did they find the "Bad Guy's" semen/sperm ANYWHERE?

"DNA evidence"...what the fuck does THAT mean?

Was it a...you know...pubic hair? Skin flake? Fingernail? Blood? Urine? What!?

Anyway, I haven't been following this closely (just here, as a matter of fact) nor do I care that much - society will not suffer much from an innocent going to jail nor will it benefit noticeably from a guilty guy going to jail.

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I would tend to trust the scientific evidence MUCH more than the testimony from the kids - they were thoroughly biased by talking with each other and with their parents for hours (minimally) prior to everything official. But then again, I certainly wasn't on the jury listening to whoever testified so actually have no clue.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: But consider ()
Date: January 25, 2013 11:16PM

hmm he firmly says he's innocent Wrote:
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> Not having any thorough knowledge of this case,
> some thoughts none-the-less...
>
> "DNA evidence"...what the fuck does THAT mean?
>
> The girls were staying at his house, ovenight. Did
> they use the same toilet he used? Did they let
> their panties hit the ground in front of the
> toilet or did their butts hit the back part of the
> toilet seat they sat on?
>
> When they brushed their teeth, did they lean
> against the sink?
>
> They actually found SPERM from one the girls' dads
> on someone's clothes. Did they find the "Bad
> Guy's" semen/sperm ANYWHERE?
>
> "DNA evidence"...what the fuck does THAT mean?
>
> Was it a...you know...pubic hair? Skin flake?
> Fingernail? Blood? Urine? What!?
>
> Anyway, I haven't been following this closely
> (just here, as a matter of fact) nor do I care
> that much - society will not suffer much from an
> innocent going to jail nor will it benefit
> noticeably from a guilty guy going to jail.
>
> =========
>
> I would tend to trust the scientific evidence MUCH
> more than the testimony from the kids - they were
> thoroughly biased by talking with each other and
> with their parents for hours (minimally) prior to
> everything official. But then again, I certainly
> wasn't on the jury listening to whoever testified
> so actually have no clue.


As far as the DNA questions you raise, I would ask why did they only find his DNA on the girls clothes and not the wife's or their kids? Since these were friends of the daughter, you would expect to find her DNA on her friends clothes from just playing as kids will do. They only found his DNA from the Gardner house.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: January 26, 2013 11:43AM

@ College Boy: Yes, it looks nicer than what many of my Soldiers lived in when I was in the Army a thousand years ago. Late 70s early 80s in run-down barracks in Germany were not nearly that nice. BUT...it's still a JAIL! If you're in there, you may not have it as bad as you do in some other places, but it's still a jail. Not any place I'd like to be even for 1/100th of a nanosecond.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: January 26, 2013 11:44AM

@ hmm he firmly says he's innocent: I'm sure Gordon Blvd and some of the others on here will take you to task, so I won't do it for them, but I am going to get some popcorn and wait for the schooling to begin....5...4...3...2...1.....

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: January 26, 2013 12:06PM

all that really needs to be said is all right here: http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/608915/page-1.html

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Elevate ()
Date: February 06, 2013 11:05PM

This tragically and unconscionably happened, please don't treat it as something you've seen at the theater. It's haunting, and the last thing a parent would ever want for his child or expect from folks he counted as friends, at their daughter's birthday party for her closest friends:

http://fcnp.com/2013/02/06/gardner-supporters-call-attention-to-lack-of-child-protective-role/

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Someone ()
Date: February 19, 2013 09:32AM

The Commonwealth Responds to Gardner’s Appeal on Aggravated Sexual Battery and Object Penetration Felony Convictions.

The Post is making available a copy of the Commonwealth’s brief in PDF form, which you can access from this site:

http://www.thefallschurchpost.com/2013/02/18/the-commonwealth-responds-to-gardners-appeal-on-aggravated-sexual-battery-and-object-penetration-felony-convictions/

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: February 19, 2013 09:41AM

@someone - thank you very much

@elevate blows my mind that pedobear still has "supporters" - cant even IMAGINE what's on their hard drives :(

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: dieing breed ()
Date: February 19, 2013 09:55AM

Just glad this criminal isn't as of yet being permitted to search golf courses for the real perpetrator as was O.J.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Another Interested Party ()
Date: March 20, 2013 07:00PM

VIRGINIA COURT OF APPEALS DENIES MICHAEL GARDNER PETITION

By Nicholas F. Benton

A judge for the Court of Appeals of Virginia today issued a ruling on a petition for appeal submitted on behalf of Falls Church resident Michael Gardner, denying the appeal on six grounds spelled out in a 14-page document. Gardner is currently serving a 22-year term at the Arlington Detention Center having been found guilty of molesting two underage girls at his home during his daughter’s slumber party in June 2011.

Today, the parent of one of the victims in the case issued the following statement to the News-Press today: “It was grueling and remains difficult for all involved, but justice has been done, and upheld in no uncertain terms. Citizens of Falls Church should be proud that their young, brave girl citizens have ultimately been heard and protected. Michael Gardner’s assignment to the state penitentiary should be acted on without delay. It makes no sense for him to remain in Arlington County jail.”

However, Gardner’s wife, former Falls Church Mayor Robin Gardner, told the News-Press, “Although we’re disappointed, this is the first step in the appeal process, and we will continue.” Gardner has 14 days to file an appeal to appear before a three-judge appeals court panel, and beyond that there is the option for an appeal to the State Supreme Court.

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ardner is currently serving a 22-year term at the Arlington Detention Center
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: March 20, 2013 07:28PM

WHY THE FUCK IS A CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTER NOT IN PRISON!?!?!

Chirst, Arlington - I know y'all are pretty open in what y'all allow and y'all believe in - BUT THE GUY PUT HIS FINGERS INTO LITTLE GIRLS!!!

You dont coddle ppl like that - you put them in PRISON!

But Gordo! He's got 14 days! We dont want him having any DISCOMFORT o_0

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 27, 2013 10:54AM

LOL.

The money wasting continues, the dumb blonde paid probaby mid five figures for this pointless appeal. Should save the money for the psych help you will need when reality slaps you, Robin.

From the FC Patch:

For now, Gardner remains imprisoned at the Arlington County Detention Center and that he remains there instead of in a state facility bothers at least one of the parents of one of Gardner’s victims.

"It was grueling and remains difficult for all involved, but justice has been done, and upheld in no uncertain terms. Citizens of Falls Church should be proud that their young, brave girl citizens have ultimately been heard and protected. Michael Gardner's assignment to the state penitentiary should be acted on without delay, it makes no sense for him to remain in Arlington County jail," the parent said in a written statement.


I am starting to think Chester has worked some kind of preferential treatment with his connection to Theo Stamos. There really is no good reason he has not been shipped down the road to at least a reception center. I don't think he needs to personally make any court appearance for the appeals process.

Come clean to your stupid wife and hang yourself already, Mikey.

Game over.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: March 27, 2013 02:02PM

Personally I don't care where he's incarcerated. He's off the streets.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: joink ()
Date: April 11, 2013 11:35AM

who's the fat ass?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 11, 2013 01:26PM

https://www.gofundme.com/WeSUPPORTtheGIRLS
file.php?2,file=213275,filename=wesuppor



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really? REALLY!?!?! You SERIOUSLY sitting there thinking the parents havent been doing everything short of torches and pitchforks at this point, bro?
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 11, 2013 02:45PM

but at the end of the day, Wingnut..........................is it really that suspicious?

a) woman is using her connections to keep her "man" near her
b) $$$$$$$$$ & DCish power go a looooooooong way.
c) we the public dont seem to give a fuck anymore :(

what's really funny is how same system giving Gardner a handjob currently? It's the same system who would have sent a grieving upset parent to a pit hole in hell for taking any justice against Gardner. Dont that beat all? LoLz

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and y'all tell me it's immgrants making us all third world?
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 11, 2013 02:56PM

22046 Wrote:
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> Personally I don't care where he's incarcerated.
> He's off the streets.


let me tell ya something..........................that asshole - and ANY asshole who does to little kids what that man did, AND IS STILL DOING..............deserves nothing more than the State PRISON system.

you may not care about those kids and their fams getting the justice they DESERVE, but I do.

Court convicted the man. HE SHOULD BE IN THE STATE PRISON SYSTEM PENDING ANY JUDICIAL REVIEW OF HIS CASE and the preferential treatment he is getting by getting to stay to close to his friends and family is sickening.

What that EQUALS is Arlington County, Commonwealth of Virginia, you, me and every other citizen of this state telling those 3 girls "Hey kiddo - we really actually dont care that man touched ya. In fact we really dont even believe what you say happened that;s why we arent treating him the same way we would someone who REALLY did something like what you said he did. Why dont you just run along and play now and just pretend it didnt happen, k?"


and that, my friend , is some FUCKED UP SHIT.

asshole needs to go to some hole downstate with every other sexual assualt asswipe. If we cant fucking manage to give justice to little kids (and after a FULL JURY CONVICTION, mind you) - then what the fuck is wrong with us, yo?

edit: Hey, County of Arlington: TREATING CHILD RAPE LIKE A GODDAMN JOKE is not really cool, k?



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: April 11, 2013 06:15PM

I presume you haven't seen the letter in his support in today's FCNP?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 11, 2013 07:09PM

He should have been in another institution months ago.

He and wife are friends with Theo Stamos, Arlington Comm.Atty. and the Gardners particiapated in fundraisers for her when she ran for office. Stamos recused herself from prosecuting the case because of this relationship.

If I recall correctly, once a defendant is convicted in county court, he is then officially a ward of the state, and the county bills the state for the incarceration. It is then up to the sherriff or the commonwealth attorney to make the call to the VA DOC to come pick the prisoner up for transfer.

If you were a car thief with no money you would already be downstate.

I think this needs to be explained.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 11, 2013 07:29PM

https://www.gofundme.com/WeSUPPORTtheGIRLS
file.php?2,file=213275,filename=wesuppor



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: He is guilty Mr. McCan ()
Date: April 11, 2013 07:41PM

No one every really knows someone. People keep dirty little secrets all the time.

Bill Clinton

Sarah Palin

Anthoney Weiner

Bernie Madoff and his whole entire family

I could go on and on.

True facts were brought up in court.

Sorry but you need accept your friend is a monster.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 11, 2013 07:52PM

https://www.gofundme.com/WeSUPPORTtheGIRLS
file.php?2,file=213275,filename=wesuppor



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Yawn IVXXI ()
Date: April 11, 2013 08:23PM

Your friend Michael Gardner is a child molester and he deserves to die in prison you Godless, unholy fuckstick.


Oh my, what an incredibly brave person you are, to write that from your keyboard...what courage you must have.


You're more tiresome than a damn child molester...that's saying a lot.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 11, 2013 08:37PM

Yawn IVXXI Wrote:
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> Your friend Michael Gardner is a child molester
> and he deserves to die in prison you Godless,
> unholy fuckstick.
>
>
> Oh my, what an incredibly brave person you are, to
> write that from your keyboard...what courage you
> must have.
>
>
> You're more tiresome than a damn child
> molester...that's saying a lot.
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 11, 2013 08:37PM

https://www.gofundme.com/WeSUPPORTtheGIRLS
file.php?2,file=213275,filename=wesuppor



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: hmm he firmly says he's innocent ()
Date: April 11, 2013 09:03PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> Letter in the FCNP-

There are others of us out here with similar questions:

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/608915/1095820.html#msg-1095820

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 11, 2013 09:21PM

hmm he firmly says he's innocent Wrote:
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> WingNut Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Letter in the FCNP-
>
> There are others of us out here with similar
> questions:
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/608
> 915/1095820.html#msg-1095820


others of "you" maybe.................but us normal ppl already got the news

http://www.promega.com/~/media/files/resources/conference%20proceedings/ishi%2023/poster%20abstracts/96%20poster.pdf?la=en

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: whateverdude. ()
Date: April 17, 2013 11:18AM

whatever the truth is... apparently someone was seriously pissed off with this guy to make the accusation stick.. whether or not it actually happened.

never become a 'top official' anywhere and carry your 'weight' of 'fill in the blankypoos' ... stay anonymous, out of everyones radar and hide in the closets.

i'm glad i'm not him.


i don't know him but i knew a few 'figureheads' in my time who didn't do much of anything except upset someone concerned and then it was "open season".


gives me the creeps.


and why do we keep voting these people into positions of power anyways?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 17, 2013 04:36PM

Nobody framed your faggot friend, get real.
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: The Undead Thread ()
Date: April 17, 2013 08:23PM

Wingnut has a real fascination with the word "faggot."

Fight it, fight it, till one day you explode in a pedofag rage!

BTW, the vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexual, as you claim to be.

Lolz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 17, 2013 08:27PM

https://www.gofundme.com/WeSUPPORTtheGIRLS
file.php?2,file=213275,filename=wesuppor



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also, didja notice he says you claimed you were hetero? Since when the fuck does someone NORMAL care about who you are fucking, yo? o_0
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 17, 2013 08:41PM

@wing - I notice yr friend is so wound up about "sex" so badly his mind cant even comprehend that others use the word faggot without ever even equating it to anything sexual.

@undead - ...................................just wow.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Rosana Dana ()
Date: April 18, 2013 04:02PM

About time for Miss Gordon to elbow her way into the thread...again...

Let's see...the guy has been found guilty, he's in prison...what else would you like in the way of justice, sweetie?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Scourge of the Underworld ()
Date: April 18, 2013 04:13PM

Justice is Served.

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cant really "elbow" yr way into a PUBLIC discussion, jackass.
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 18, 2013 04:20PM

Rosana Dana Wrote:
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> About time for Miss Gordon to elbow her way into
> the thread...again...
>
> Let's see...the guy has been found guilty, he's in
> prison...what else would you like in the way of
> justice, sweetie?


well, I'd like for what you say to be true. But since you are too stupid to notice, I'll spell it out for you. HE. IS. NOT. IN. PRISON.

Arlington County Jail is NOT a prision, and the fact that you feel keeping a convicted pedophile as close to his victims as he can legally possibly be (which is currently what the Commonwealth of Virginia and the County of Arlington are doing here) is REALLY FUCKING SCUMMY of you.


@scourge - no yet - still apparently more to do since County of Arlington apparently treats rapists same way they do shoplifters :(

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Lol again ()
Date: April 18, 2013 05:52PM

So sad, no Sharia Law for GordonBlvd...

So why don't you and/or Wingnut do some "minor" crime like shoplifting that will get you into the all-so-pleasant Arlington jail, and take care of him, street style?

Put your money where your big mouth is...

"Arlington treating rapists like shoplifters." Um, sure they do...

And yes, all us scummy pedofags are trying to keep Gardner as "close to his victims as he can legally possibly be (sic)." Yeah, it's a pedofag plot!

Might want to put another layer of tinfoil on your head.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 18, 2013 06:45PM

Lol again Wrote:
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> So sad, no Sharia Law for GordonBlvd...


so how exactly is wanting a convicted rapist in prison equal to "sharia law" to you? Can you honestly answer that question like like a grown adult and give examples of how you believe wishing a convicted rapist in prision equates to "sharia law" in your mind? Cause I've asked a cpl ppl what yr talking about and everyone I've shown this to is telling me pretty much that you are a cpl pints shy of a gallon............


>
> So why don't you and/or Wingnut do some "minor"
> crime like shoplifting that will get you into the
> all-so-pleasant Arlington jail, and take care of
> him, street style?

why are you bringing up violence? All I am wondering at this point in time is why a convicted child sexual predator is being kept in the jail closet to his victims and not in the State Prison system. How is that violent to expect felons to go to prison system? Are you capable of explaining what you mean by "street style"?


> Put your money where your big mouth is...
>
> "Arlington treating rapists like shoplifters."
> Um, sure they do...

well, seeing as shoplifting is a MISDEMEANOR crime, and what garnder did was a FELONY. I know it's hard for you to understand this so let me help you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGGbDMDZWqE


> And yes, all us scummy pedofags are trying to keep
> Gardner as "close to his victims as he can legally
> possibly be (sic)." Yeah, it's a pedofag plot!

yr the only one mentioning any sorta "plot" I just want to know why the jurisdiction in charge of this felon inmate is keeping him in a place closet to his victims, is all. Gotta be a simple answer, right?

> Might want to put another layer of tinfoil on your
> head.


if hating convicted pedophiles makes me crazy in yr eyes........................then sign me up. Would rather be crazy than stand with someone like you anyday of the week.

So, y'all think he's capable of answering any of those questions I posed or do ya think he's just gonna go "Oh Gordo yr ugly, stupid, and yr mom dresses you funny" like all the others do? Placing bets LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Tinfoil's not a bad idea for Gor ()
Date: April 18, 2013 07:03PM

Anyone who neurotically types "LolZ" thousands of times is not a person with whom it is worth discussing the fine points of law...

And you even take the time to find and paste up a stupid photo.


Idiot.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: April 18, 2013 09:51PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 19, 2013 07:31AM

Tinfoil's not a bad idea for Gor Wrote:
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> Anyone who neurotically types "LolZ" thousands of
> times is not a person with whom it is worth
> discussing the fine points of law...
>
> And you even take the time to find and paste up a
> stupid photo.
>
>
> Idiot.
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: MLK republican ()
Date: April 19, 2013 08:04AM

This thread has received far too much attention. Gardner has a very rough road ahead of him. Think about pleasant things not this disgusting sicko.

I know it's hard to shake but we all have more important things to think about.

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you know, this isnt rocket science. There is a common sense reason why you separate long-stay felons AWAY from the community they terorrized
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 19, 2013 08:15AM

MLK republican Wrote:
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> This thread has received far too much attention.
> Gardner has a very rough road ahead of him. Think
> about pleasant things not this disgusting sicko.
>
> I know it's hard to shake but we all have more
> important things to think about.


Dude, if you want to ignore it, go right ahead. Dunno why you bothered to type a thing if you just want to stick yr head in the sand. The rest of us will multi-task, k?

now..........does anybody have any REAL knowledge on why a CONVICTED RAPIST OF CHILDREN is not in the State Prison system.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Pedofags Everywhere! ()
Date: April 19, 2013 10:02AM

Oh noes, Gordon, you're surrounded by pedofags!

And those who aren't pedofags are sticking their heads in the sand!

How do you find the strength to face each day?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 19, 2013 10:50AM

Pedofags Everywhere! Wrote:
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> Oh noes, Gordon, you're surrounded by pedofags!
> And those who aren't pedofags are sticking their
> heads in the sand!
>
> How do you find the strength to face each day?

well I'm not as weak as you so it's really not a problem LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Someone ()
Date: May 01, 2013 10:13PM

From http://fcnp.com/2013/05/01/f-c-officer-awarded-for-role-in-gardner-case/

... City of Falls Church Police Lt. Sonya Richardson was given an award for her her work in gathering evidence in the case against City resident Michael Gardner that resulted in his conviction and 22-year prison sentence for molesting two girls...

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From http://www.loudountimes.com/index.php/news/article/in_the_arena543
(Posted Apr 30, 2013)

In June 2011 the Falls Church Police Department founds itself in the middle of an uncomfortable situation. Michael Gardner, the husband of former Falls Church mayor Robin Gardner, was accused of molesting two girls at his daughter's slumber party.

"It was a triable case, but it was a tough case," said Loudoun County Commonwealth Attorney Jim Plowman.

In recognition for her efforts in working to bring Michael Gardner to justice, Falls Church Lt. Sonya Richardson was given an award.

Richardson, Plowman said, went the extra mile "after turning over every rock." The lieutenant, he said, sat down with one of the girls, laid out her clothing and asked her to tell her exactly where she was touched.
Richardson was able to extract touch DNA from the clothing.

"Despite many people telling her to 'don't waste your time, you're never going to get, she got it," Plowman said.

Michael Gardner is now serving 22 years in prison.
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Related:

Loudoun Prosecutors Recognized by Falls Church Police Department for Efforts in Special Prosecution (Oct 4, 2012)
http://www.loudoun.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=440

Loudoun Prosecutors Honored For Work In Falls Church Sexual Assault Case (Oct 10, 2012)
http://www.leesburgtoday.com/public_safety/loudoun-prosecutors-honored-for-work-in-falls-church-sexual-assault/article_bc46835a-127e-11e2-860c-0019bb2963f4.html

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 01, 2013 10:34PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Missing a * ()
Date: May 01, 2013 10:55PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> Is the fruitcake still alive/in Arlington jail?


Yes. And it is highly reviewed on Yelp.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/arlington-county-detention-arlington#query:Jail

4 out of 5 stars ain't bad, but I am sure the citizens of Arlington and Falls Church want to shoot for 5 out 5 stars for their lock up.

http://www.arlnow.com/2013/04/30/video-colbert-reads-yelp-review-of-arlington-jail/

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Etoh ()
Date: May 01, 2013 11:26PM

What an incredible fascination Wingnut seems to have for Gardner...almost as if they were brothers...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 01, 2013 11:42PM

Etoh Wrote:
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> What an incredible fascination Wingnut seems to
> have for Gardner...almost as if they were
> brothers...
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: May 01, 2013 11:58PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Somali Mann ()
Date: May 02, 2013 04:04AM

He isn't going to any of those places Wingnut. Because if you goto the VDOC website, it say's for a person to get admitted to Wallen Ridge or Red Onion, they must've done few yrs in another instution and not have gotten any write ups or something to that effect. So he's probably going to a lower/medium state prison and maybe get transferred to those facilities in the near future.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 02, 2013 07:50AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Blah Blah Blah ()
Date: May 02, 2013 10:43AM

Does this character Gordon knows anything or just brain washed moron ?

The pipe is a weeds pipe. The saying is "put down the crack pipe" not weed pipe. Gosh, he must be a brain washed moron who believes "Reefer Madness" is a documentary.

That and he has anger management issue.

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Date: May 02, 2013 11:09AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 02, 2013 12:19PM

Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
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> Does this character Gordon knows anything or just
> brain washed moron ?
>
> The pipe is a weeds pipe. The saying is "put down
> the crack pipe" not weed pipe. Gosh, he must be a
> brain washed moron who believes "Reefer Madness"
> is a documentary.
>
> That and he has anger management issue.


protip: when you find yourself online, SERIOUSLY critiquing a Gordon Blvd post.........then it is DEFINATELY time for you to ..............
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 06, 2013 06:30PM

Somali Mann Wrote:
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> He isn't going to any of those places Wingnut.
> Because if you goto the VDOC website, it say's for
> a person to get admitted to Wallen Ridge or Red
> Onion, they must've done few yrs in another
> instution and not have gotten any write ups or
> something to that effect. So he's probably going
> to a lower/medium state prison and maybe get
> transferred to those facilities in the near
> future.


http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/facilities/western/redonion/
http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/facilities/western/wallens-ridge/

I didn't think you were right about this...

" No disruptive behavior for at least past 24 months prior to consideration for a transfer to any less-secure facility" is what the Wallens Ridge listing says on the VADOC website. This doesn't mean you have to behave yourself to get IN, it means you have to behave yourself to get OUT (transferred).



Red Onion sounds like a totally different kind of joint, they have some special "S" classification for inmates. I am guessing this stands for segregation. I think Angelos, the old head of prisons had these two built as a showcase and a major deterrent. They are constructed as high security prisons, and it wouldn't make sense to house any lower risk inmates there.

Mikey the PedoFag may be a model prisoner and a wussy who won't start any shit with inmates or staff, but the length of his sentence makes him an escape risk and certainly eligible for a higher security institution at least for his initial assignment.

I would bet he winds up in one of these places, level 4 for starters.

http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/facilities/western/keen-mt/
http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/facilities/central/nottoway/
http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/facilities/eastern/sussex2/




If he is "lucky" he may go to some of these Level 3 joints where the blades may be an inch shorter and there are 3 to 5% less sexual assaults per year.

http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/facilities/central/powhatan/
http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/facilities/eastern/lawrenceville/
http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/facilities/western/augusta/
http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/facilities/central/buckingham/
http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/facilities/eastern/greensville/


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: KnowThe Deal ()
Date: May 07, 2013 12:33AM

OK. Here's the deal kiddies. Inmate Gardner is scheduled for transfer to Coffeewood Correction Center. Just outside Culpepper. It is an intake and "classification facility" That will take 6 months to a year before he heads to Powhatan or Buckingham. Then he will be assigned for the next 18 years.. It will not be Red Onion or Greensville. Sorry.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: KnowThe Deal ()
Date: May 07, 2013 12:36AM

This transfer is scheduled. Within the next 10 days.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: May 07, 2013 07:53AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Partner in crime? ()
Date: May 07, 2013 09:17AM

You can relax, Wingnut, Gardner never dropped a dime on you.

LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 07, 2013 10:03AM

@Partner - lol whut?
@wingnut - LoLz
@know - THANK YOU for taking the time to share that info :) I aint trying to get that thing killed at Red Onion I just want it in the State prison system so it can be classified and stored away properly, y'know?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Blah Blah Blah ()
Date: May 07, 2013 12:23PM

Do they have Yelp review for those facilities like Arlington ?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: dontpreach ()
Date: May 13, 2013 11:15AM

and to think, mostly everyone in this forum preaching is a whacko.

of course they'd understand.


(scary.)

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: sendhimdownstateasap ()
Date: May 13, 2013 11:29AM

dontpreach Wrote:
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> and to think, mostly everyone in this forum
> preaching is a whacko.

You are calling people who chastise pedos whackos? You're one seriously misguided and warped freak.

> of course they'd understand.
>
>
> (scary.)

I, for one, will never understand pedos. I'll leave that to freaks like you.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Enough already ()
Date: May 13, 2013 11:43AM

You are calling people who chastise pedos whackos? You're one seriously misguided and warped freak.



I believe he's saying that this Gardner guy has been convicted, he's in jail, soon to be in prison, and sweaty red-faced mouth-breathers like you that keep harping on the topic seem to have some odd fascination with Gardner that goes far beyond just wanting to see him in jail...

Talk about freaks.

Just sayin'....

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 87w2ser0a1dash ()
Date: May 14, 2013 11:00AM

comment boards are amusing, a waste of bandwidth.. but, amusing.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: MYnameIS ()
Date: May 14, 2013 11:01AM

you're absolutely right, freak.


(i hope the 'messes' you are contributing to in this world are kept clean with 'color' safe bleach.)


*cough*


stop proving THE point, at "hand".


whacko.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: sendhimdownstate ()
Date: May 14, 2013 11:04AM

Enough already Wrote:
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> You are calling people who chastise pedos whackos?
> You're one seriously misguided and warped freak.
>
>
>
> I believe he's saying that this Gardner guy has
> been convicted, he's in jail, soon to be in
> prison,

And he isn't appealing the conviction, right? Oh wait, he is. So, it is far from over, dipshit.

> and sweaty red-faced mouth-breathers like
> you that keep harping on the topic seem to have
> some odd fascination with Gardner that goes far
> beyond just wanting to see him in jail...

Really like what? I am sorry you are not offended by pedos, but then again, you probably are one.


> Talk about freaks.

Yes, you are.

> Just sayin'....

Oh, we know what you're sayin, pedo.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Please fill in the author field ()
Date: May 14, 2013 11:06AM

whackos like yourself make it all too easy.


(now watch the thread:..................*-)



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sendhimdownstate Wrote:
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> Enough already Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You are calling people who chastise pedos
> whackos?
> > You're one seriously misguided and warped
> freak.
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe he's saying that this Gardner guy has
> > been convicted, he's in jail, soon to be in
> > prison,
>
> And he isn't appealing the conviction, right? Oh
> wait, he is. So, it is far from over, dipshit.
>
> > and sweaty red-faced mouth-breathers like
> > you that keep harping on the topic seem to have
> > some odd fascination with Gardner that goes far
> > beyond just wanting to see him in jail...
>
> Really like what? I am sorry you are not offended
> by pedos, but then again, you probably are one.
>
>
> > Talk about freaks.
>
> Yes, you are.
>
> > Just sayin'....
>
> Oh, we know what you're sayin, pedo.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: lookoutforfiveoh ()
Date: May 14, 2013 11:10AM

Please fill in the author field Wrote:
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> whackos like yourself make it all too easy.
>
>
> (now watch the thread:..................*-)

You still yappin', pedo?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: sickofkids ()
Date: May 18, 2013 04:39AM

So. Some kid learned what the "enter" key does. Grow up. Dude still going away. HaHa.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: June 26, 2013 08:32PM

Looks like the fucking fruit is getting some kind of pref treatment, still in Arlington County Jail.


http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/offenderDetails.html?regId=37129


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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Groundhog Day ()
Date: June 26, 2013 09:24PM

Thanks you for keeping us posted and for continuing to keep this thread on life support.

Now please go away.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: June 26, 2013 09:59PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Wing Logic ()
Date: June 26, 2013 10:25PM

OK, so if someone thinks you're an asshole, they're pedophile pals with this guy?

In that case everyone here is a pedophile!

LoLz

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: June 26, 2013 10:43PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: movehimdownstate ()
Date: July 09, 2013 04:43PM

Rumor has it that his appeal to the 3 judge panel was denied a few weeks ago, but remains unreported. I heard it was June 21. He is still in Arlington lockup. What gives? Seems like he is getting preferential treatment.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Link ()
Date: July 09, 2013 07:36PM

movehimdownstate Wrote:
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> Rumor has it that his appeal to the 3 judge panel
> was denied a few weeks ago, but remains
> unreported. I heard it was June 21. He is still
> in Arlington lockup. What gives? Seems like he
> is getting preferential treatment.

Can you give us a link to the denial?

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Date: July 09, 2013 07:50PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Link ()
Date: July 09, 2013 07:59PM

That was posted by fcman on June 5th above. I was looking for a link on the ruling of the appeal. I don't think the appeals court is hiding anything, but he has been at the county lock up for quite a while.

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Date: July 09, 2013 08:04PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: movehimdownstate ()
Date: July 09, 2013 08:13PM

Link Wrote:
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> movehimdownstate Wrote:
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> -----
> > Rumor has it that his appeal to the 3 judge
> panel
> > was denied a few weeks ago, but remains
> > unreported. I heard it was June 21. He is
> still
> > in Arlington lockup. What gives? Seems like
> he
> > is getting preferential treatment.
>
> Can you give us a link to the denial?


Sorry, no link. Like I said, it is a rumor I heard. Apparently you can search for it on the Court of Appeals website, but I am too lazy. FWIW it was from a reliable source.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Found it. Appeal DENIED ()
Date: July 10, 2013 11:58AM

http://webdev.courts.state.va.us/cav-public/

You can go to this website and type in his name to search for it. His name is listed as Michael Armin Gardner. His appeal was, in fact, denied on June 21st. Looks like movehimdownstate's source was correct.

If you prefer to search by case #, his is 1831-12-4

So, the question remains, why is he still in the Arlington jail? Anyone else feel like this scumbag is getting preferential treatment?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: been a while ()
Date: July 10, 2013 12:00PM

KnowThe Deal Wrote:
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> This transfer is scheduled. Within the next 10
> days.


I ain't no mathematician, but it seems like it has been more than 10 days.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
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Date: July 10, 2013 12:11PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: livin' large ()
Date: July 10, 2013 12:14PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> I couldn't find the record of the appeal denial,
> though I'm sure it got negged like most appeals
> do.
>
> I am sure he is getting hooked up by Arlington
> County.
>
> Falls Church City has some kind of dependent
> relationship for jail and courts, I think they
> subcontract it out to them. Sounds weird for the
> court part at least.
>
> Gardner was a well established liberal activist,
> wife was FC mayor and she did fundraisers with
> Theo Stamos, Commonwealth Attorney for Arlington
> now. Stamos recused herself from the case because
> of that relationship and prosecutors came in from
> Loudoun. Jurors were Arlingtonians or Falls Church
> residents I believe though.
>
> There was no good reason to keep him up here as
> his appeal does not require his physical presence.
>
>
> It's been over a month since he was rumored to be
> moved downstate.


Virginia Inmate Locator has him staying at the ADC.

http://www.vadoc.virginia.gov/offenders/locator/

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: July 10, 2013 12:21PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Old Reliable ()
Date: July 10, 2013 12:32PM

You really miss him, don't you, Wingnut?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: indeed ()
Date: July 10, 2013 12:53PM

Old Reliable Wrote:
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> You really miss him, don't you, Wingnut?


Probably not as much as Nick Benton misses Mike.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: special treatment ()
Date: July 22, 2013 03:24PM

That fucker is still at the ADC. What gives?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: July 23, 2013 10:01AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: He's gone ()
Date: August 02, 2013 08:13AM

He's finally gone. Dillwyn Correctional Center for now until they find a more permanent placement.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: better late than never ()
Date: August 02, 2013 12:52PM

He's gone Wrote:
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> He's finally gone. Dillwyn Correctional Center for
> now until they find a more permanent placement.


'bout time. You know this asshole was shitting bricks the whole bus ride there. No more concierge service like at the ADC. Next time he gets on a prison bus, he'll be going to the last place he will call home.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: rob loblaw ()
Date: August 02, 2013 11:35PM

Mike will have his stool pushed in by the end of the week.
Robin will cry.
Nick Benton will claim he is innocent.
Bob Young will build another crap building with flowers that is under parked.
Ira will get red faced and yell at the next cc meeting.
The teachers will get raises.
The taxes will sky rocket.
The new high school will get built someday.
The kids will always be high.
Another pizza and yogart shop will open once a week for the next ten years.
Yawn... just another day in TheLittleCity.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: down state ()
Date: August 05, 2013 12:14PM

What's the name of Mike's new boyfriend?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: August 05, 2013 12:32PM

Hey the wheels of justice finally turned.


Now hurry up and die.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: rob loblaw ()
Date: August 28, 2013 08:09PM

Mike used to complain about the unjust nature of camera tickets. Now he complains about the unjust prison rape.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: dating game ()
Date: October 10, 2013 02:44PM

How many boyfriends do you think he has had by now?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Status Update ()
Date: January 04, 2014 04:28PM

http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/offenderDetails.html?regId=37129

037129-02.jpg
Photo Date: August 01, 2013

Registration ID : 37129
Name : GARDNER, MICHAEL, ARMIN
Sex : Male
Race : White
Age : 49
Height : 5 Feet 10 Inches
Weight : 215 lbs
Hair Color : Brown
Eye Color : Blue
Palm Print : On File
Finger Print : On File
Violent : Yes
Status : INCARCERATED

Initial Registration : May 02, 2012

Sex Offender Conviction Record
Case Number Sentencing Court Code Section Statute Date of Conviction State Convicted Victim Age
CR1100077100 ARLINGTON CIRCUIT 18.2-67.2 OBJECT SEXUAL PENETRATION May 02, 2012 VA Minor
CR1100126200 ARLINGTON CIRCUIT 18.2-67.3 AGGRAVATED SEXUAL BATTERY May 02, 2012 VA Minor
CR1100077200 ARLINGTON CIRCUIT 18.2-67.3 AGGRAVATED SEXUAL BATTERY May 02, 2012 VA Minor


http://www.vadoc.virginia.gov/offenders/locator/

OFFENDER ID NUMBER 1459671
NAME Michael Armin Gardner
GENDER Male
RACE White
VADOC RELEASE DATE 06/02/2031
LOCATION Augusta Correctional Center


http://vadoc.virginia.gov/facilities/western/augusta/default.shtm

Augusta Correctional Center (close custody male institution)

Security Level 3 - Assignment Criteria:
Single, multiple, & Life + sentences must have served 20 consecutive years on sentence. If parole eligible, must have reached PED. No disruptive behavior for at least past 24 months prior to consideration for a transfer to any less-secure facility. Numerical sentences must have less than 40 years to release or have served 20 consecutive years.

Specifications:
Opened - 1986
Average Daily Population (June 2008) - 1,097
Special Populations - NA
Special Programs - NA
Site Additions/Upgrades - 1987, M and N buildings added
Virginia Correctional Enterprises -Clothing/Shoe Industry

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Calvin Klein ()
Date: January 04, 2014 06:03PM

"Virginia Correctional Enterprises -Clothing/Shoe Industry"

Wasn't he convicted due in part to having his man spunk and DNA all over little girls panties?

And now he is making and handling clothes in prison?

Ewwwww, really, that is so gross!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: ..... ()
Date: January 05, 2014 03:07PM

Status Update Wrote:
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> http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/offenderD
> etails.html?regId=37129
>
> src="http://vspimages.vsp.virginia.gov/images/0371
> 29-02.jpg" />
> Photo Date: August 01, 2013
>
> Registration ID : 37129
> Name : GARDNER, MICHAEL, ARMIN
> Sex : Male
> Race : White
> Age : 49
> Height : 5 Feet 10 Inches
> Weight : 215 lbs
> Hair Color : Brown
> Eye Color : Blue
> Palm Print : On File
> Finger Print : On File
> Violent : Yes
> Status : INCARCERATED
>
> Initial Registration : May 02, 2012
>
> Sex Offender Conviction Record
> Case Number Sentencing Court Code
> Section Statute Date of Conviction State
> Convicted Victim Age
> CR1100077100 ARLINGTON CIRCUIT 18.2-67.2
> OBJECT SEXUAL PENETRATION May 02, 2012 VA Minor
> CR1100126200 ARLINGTON CIRCUIT 18.2-67.3
> AGGRAVATED SEXUAL BATTERY May 02, 2012 VA Minor
> CR1100077200 ARLINGTON CIRCUIT 18.2-67.3
> AGGRAVATED SEXUAL BATTERY May 02, 2012 VA Minor
>
>
> http://www.vadoc.virginia.gov/offenders/locator/
>
> OFFENDER ID NUMBER 1459671
> NAME Michael Armin Gardner
> GENDER Male
> RACE White
> VADOC RELEASE DATE 06/02/2031
> LOCATION Augusta Correctional Center
>
>
> http://vadoc.virginia.gov/facilities/western/augus
> ta/default.shtm
>
> Augusta Correctional Center (close custody male
> institution)
>
> Security Level 3 - Assignment Criteria:
> Single, multiple, & Life + sentences must have
> served 20 consecutive years on sentence. If parole
> eligible, must have reached PED. No disruptive
> behavior for at least past 24 months prior to
> consideration for a transfer to any less-secure
> facility. Numerical sentences must have less than
> 40 years to release or have served 20 consecutive
> years.
>
> Specifications:
> Opened - 1986
> Average Daily Population (June 2008) - 1,097
> Special Populations - NA
> Special Programs - NA
> Site Additions/Upgrades - 1987, M and N buildings
> added
> Virginia Correctional Enterprises -Clothing/Shoe
> Industry

Slam and dunk.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: January 06, 2014 03:08PM

At least he'll have a trade for when he gets out.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Old Skold ()
Date: January 06, 2014 03:53PM

It's just not the same without Wingnut and GordonBlvd working themselves into a frothing rage about this guy, which, of course, always made one wonder about their own sexual leanings

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: January 07, 2014 08:00PM

Old Skold Wrote:
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> It's just not the same without Wingnut and
> GordonBlvd working themselves into a frothing rage
> about this guy, which, of course, always made one
> wonder about their own sexual leanings


cause yeah, lotsa normal ppl wonder about my sexual leanings o_0

anywho.................
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Follow-up ()
Date: April 27, 2014 09:32PM

http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/scv/appeals/131166.html

Case MICHAEL ARMIN GARDNER v. COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA (Record Number 131166)
From The Court of Appeals of Virginia
Counsel
Peter D. Greenspun, Jonathan Shapiro, and Mikhail N. Lopez (Greenspun Shapiro PC) for Appellant.
James E. Plowman, Nicole M. Wittmann, and Alejandra R. Amato (Office of the Commonwealth's Attorney) for Appellee.

Assignment of Error
1. The Court of Appeals erred by finding joinder was appropriate under Rule 3A:10(c) despite the nonexistence of a common plan or scheme.
2. The Court of Appeals erred by upholding admission of Dr. Perlin's testimony, despite his reliance on evidence beyond that admitted at trial, and by not finding the Commonwealth failed to establish chain of custody for those materials.
3. The Court of Appeals erred by holding it was not error to exclude Gardner's character evidence on the trait of being sexually assaultive.
4. The Court of Appeals erred by finding that Angela Garcia's and Daniel Rice's testimony regarding third-party actions was not improper victim testimony.
5. The Court of Appeals erred by holding that the trial court did not intrude on the jury's deliberations, requiring a partial verdict to be returned and declaring a mistrial, thereby depriving Mr. Gardner of his right to have one jury decide his case.

Date Granted
01-22-2014

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Follow-up ()
Date: April 27, 2014 09:57PM

http://fcnp.com/2014/04/16/virginia-supreme-court-set-to-hear-appeal-of-michael-gardner-case/

Virginia Supreme Court Set to Hear Appeal of Michael Gardner Case
APRIL 16, 2014

By FCNP.com

The Virginia Supreme Court is set today in Richmond to hear the appeal of the May 2012 conviction by an Arlington circuit court of Falls Church Democratic political activist Michael Gardner on two counts of aggravated sexual assault of two underage girls, according to the Associated Press. Gardner is currently serving a 22 year prison sentence.
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Have not yet found results of the April 16 hearing.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Bob Loblaw. ()
Date: April 27, 2014 10:40PM

Audio of the April 16, 2014 oral arguments (32 minutes)

http://www.courts.state.va.us/courts/scv/oral_arguments/2014/apr/131166.mp3

Grasping at straws, IMHO.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 28, 2014 08:56AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: accountant ()
Date: May 07, 2014 04:34PM

Mr. Gardner must be bankrupting his family with these appeals.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 08, 2014 08:58AM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Disappointed ()
Date: June 05, 2014 12:56PM

Big news.

http://courts.state.va.us/opinions/opnscvwp/1131166.pdf

Just goes to show, anything can happen. The evidence still stands.

Best wishes to the girls as they go through everything all over again.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: June 05, 2014 01:00PM

Unless you are a masochist or really love dissecting legalese, the only part really worth reading is always at the very end of these things--


Therefore, I would affirm Gardner's
convictions.



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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: June 05, 2014 01:00PM

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Reversed and remanded.
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 05, 2014 01:08PM

um, Wing - that's not what happened :(

1
Conclusion
We hold that the Court of Appeals erred in denying
Gardner’s appeal, because the circuit court erred by
sustaining the Commonwealth’s objection to Gardner’s question
that sought admissible character evidence. Furthermore, we
cannot say that such error was harmless. Therefore, we will
reverse the judgment of the Court of Appeals, vacate the
convictions, and remand this case to the Court of Appeals
directing that it remand the case to the circuit court for
further proceedings if the Commonwealth be so inclined.

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Round Two......................FIGHT!
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 05, 2014 01:12PM

to the girls: you are older, stronger, smarter, better

he is weaker, poorer, and seen by the World for WHAT he is.

FINISH HIM!

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Re: Reversed and remanded.
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: June 05, 2014 01:13PM

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Re: Reversed and remanded.
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: June 05, 2014 01:15PM

Hey Gordon, where you been?


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Re: Reversed and remanded.
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: June 05, 2014 01:27PM

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as for where I've been? Stuck on Dolley Madison Blvd for, like- EVER! LoLz
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 05, 2014 01:40PM

Justice System is all about the "LAW" , never has been about emotions of a case.........

don't be disappointed yet - just watch what happens next. Probably will happen pretty quickly ;)

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: :) Lolzer ()
Date: June 05, 2014 02:01PM

to the girls: you are older, stronger, smarter, better

he is weaker, poorer, and seen by the World for WHAT he is.

FINISH HIM!


Hmmm...a little displaced anger there, Gordo? Do you see yourself when you look at photos of Gardner? Funny how you come out of the woodwork from time to time to do a rub and tug with your friend Wingnut on this particular thread...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: June 05, 2014 02:18PM

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Justice Denied ()
Date: June 05, 2014 02:38PM

Ladies, please! This pedofag has been brought to justice. We have another troubling case here...a mysterious death in Vienna, on Circle Drive. The hapless Vienna police are quite stumped.

You're needed!

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Sexual Assault Conviction Overturned in Michael Gardner Case
Posted by: More Info ()
Date: June 09, 2014 07:53AM

Sexual Assault Conviction Overturned in Michael Gardner Case

Witness questioning was wrongly excluded during trial, according to Virginia Supreme Court.
http://fallschurch.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/sexual-assault-conviction-overturned-in-michael-gardner-case

Virginia's Supreme Court has overturned the conviction of Michael Gardner, a prominent Falls Church Democrat who was accused of sexually assaulting two girls in 2011 during a sleepover for his daughter's birthday.

Gardner was sentenced to 22 years in prison, but has continued to claim his innocence throughout the appeals process. "We're not giving up," his wife, Robin Gardner, told Patch in 2013 regarding the appeal process.

On Thursday, the Supreme Court said the lower courts were wrong to reject defense questions of two character witnesses regarding Gardner's reputation as a good caretaker of children.

According to The Washington Post, the commonwealth will have to decide on a retrial. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/virginia-supreme-court-overturns-michael-gardner-molestation-conviction/2014/06/05/bf85d72c-ecc6-11e3-b98c-72cef4a00499_story.html?hpid=z2
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Small World ()
Date: June 09, 2014 04:08PM

Wow ... things do happen quickly. Word around town is that the Gardners are moving into their old house in Falls Church and re-enrolling their kids back in the school with the victims.

It's a shame how this community is so supportive of this family, and worried about their rights, when the rights of the minor kids going through this circus for a second time doesn't seem to matter at all.

Can't wait to see what they do next ... happy anniversary, everyone.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: 22046 ()
Date: June 10, 2014 05:52AM

More like Groundhog Day.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Beware!! ()
Date: June 10, 2014 01:01PM

Look out kiddies. He is out!
In Falls Church!
Staying in Arlington for now!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: puthisballsunderasteamroller ()
Date: June 10, 2014 01:04PM

Small World Wrote:
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> Wow ... things do happen quickly. Word around
> town is that the Gardners are moving into their
> old house in Falls Church and re-enrolling their
> kids back in the school with the victims.
>
> It's a shame how this community is so supportive
> of this family, and worried about their rights,
> when the rights of the minor kids going through
> this circus for a second time doesn't seem to
> matter at all.
>
> Can't wait to see what they do next ... happy
> anniversary, everyone.


I am sure the place holds special memories for him.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 11, 2014 10:30AM

@put: It's probably the Hilton compared to where he's been.............
@Beware: I wonder how soon charges are gonna be refiled
@046, Small: I think the Mayor is smart enough to keep her kids out of town for the duration LoLz (Jesus H. Christ, I hope to God she is...................)
@Wing: He'd NEVER take the stand - he's not man enough to, more used to creeping around like a roach in the dark - apparently that's his M.O. :(
@LoLzer: um, yeah.......... (do any of y'all get that?)

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: GordonGecko ()
Date: June 11, 2014 11:00AM

Here's an idea, Gordon, why don't you and Wangnut take turns stalking this Gardner, 24-hours a day...keeping an eye on him, shaming him, stand on the sidewalk in front of his house with dayglo signs...don't just hide behind a keyboard, take the next step...

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 11, 2014 11:14AM

GordonGecko Wrote:
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> Here's an idea, Gordon, why don't you and Wangnut
> take turns stalking this Gardner, 24-hours a
> day...keeping an eye on him, shaming him, stand on
> the sidewalk in front of his house with dayglo
> signs...don't just hide behind a keyboard, take
> the next step...
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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Michael Gardner ()
Date: June 11, 2014 11:43AM

HaHa suckers! I win!

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gardner loves the secret garden ()
Date: June 12, 2014 03:20PM

Wonder how he thinks the new trial will end any differently, given that the testimony and evidence will likely be the same. Will having his character witnessess take the stand make a difference?

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Ex FC ()
Date: June 12, 2014 07:38PM

New testimony from character witnesses shouldn't make any difference. His best hope is for a hung jury. That may seem impossible, given the DNA evidence, but stranger things have happened in court. The defense only has to convince one juror that Gardner is the victim, not the children.

Unfortunately, a second trial likely will be a bigger sensation than the first and an even greater strain on the girls and their families.

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Re: Husband of Falls Church City Council Member Arrested
Posted by: Gardner Information ()
Date: June 12, 2014 08:20PM

With the frequent updates and a thriving community of posts and ripostes, Blueweeds (blueweeds.typepad.com) prevails as Falls Church’s preeminent blog, with an average of 15-18,000 page views a month.

Often times outspoken, and politically progressive in tone, Blueweeds is a product of its primary contributor and founder, Michael Gardner, a former chairman of the Falls Church Democratic Committee. Gardner has managed the site since bringing the rolling commentary on the state of life in Falls Church online in 2006.

“It’s definitely grown beyond what I thought it would be,” says Gardner, who began the site to communicate with family and friends.

Interest in blogging arose from Howard Dean’s wired chairmanship of the Democratic Party, leading a campaign to build a netroots community, “a concept of building a real progressive community with people interested in local events, building relationships,” according to Gardner.

gardnermug.jpgHe is unabashed about his civic interest in Falls Church, or as Gardner called it, his “obsession with what goes on within the community.”

To that end, Blueweeds has blossomed into an engine of community dialogue, between the visitors who comment on and debate the posts and the the team behind Blueweeds, which now includes city resident Bob Burnett, as of spring 2007, and former Falls Church City councilman David Chavern from July 2008. Each member of the team brands the blog with a perspective unique in scope and slant.

Topics range from the ubiquitous concerns of residential planning and the ongoing schism within the Falls Church Anglican and Episcopalian branches to the mundane and eclectic. Take for example a recent post that covered the LEGO Inaugural Ceremonies, or an older post on “Eleven Things about the Mayor,” Robin Gardner, who is Gardner’s wife, including her “dead-on” Ethel Merman impression. Whatever the issue around town, the Blueweeds crew has it covered.

Gardner admits his relationship with the city mayor lends Blueweeds an intimate tie into city politics, but one he insists does not taint his own analysis. “Finding the voice of Blueweeds has been answering this question,” says Gardner. “We’ve had to find a balance.”

As the main voice of Blueweeds, Gardner has struck that balance by mixing serious, often incisive analysis of governmental affairs with a “strong sense of whimsy” and cynicism.

While Gardner does not “pretend to be a professional reporter,” Blueweeds covers a broad swath of Falls Church politics, each post awash with links to sources and supplementary material from city web sites – a singular privilege of online reporting.

“Blogs should be designed to communicate stories as immediately as possible,” Gardner says, and engage the community in the news. “Newspapers have more detail on the issues that should dominate the discussion for the community.”

Blueweeds generates as much news coverage as it does comments of all shades, from the most praising agreement to the biting criticism. “We get a lot of feedback, which is one of the intentions of writing about local stories.” On occasion, Gardner says that some comments are deleted for “very critical or personal” attacks on the writer. “Regular readers understand that Blueweeds exists for them to communicate.”

That understanding applies for the relationship within Blueweeds, whose authors act independently in posting to the site without any editorial supervision. “The beauty is if Mike disagrees with me, he’ll post a comment,” says Burnett. “Everyone has a unique perspective on things. I’ve had some people come up to me and say, ‘How could you post that?’ The point of blogs is it gives you an opportunity to post your thoughts.”

Burnett, who works in communications for TDI and had been a planning commissioner, views Blueweeds, and his other blogs, as a “glorified billboard” where the community can interact. “I saw Blueweeds as an outlet for things I’ve seen going on on the national and local levels,” he says. “I’ve been lucky at work to have people who have developmental expertise in planning consternation like we have in Falls Church.

“I think blogging is great. I was the kid who threw the note across the room in elementary school. And since I grew up in Falls Church, every now and then I can throw in something historical about Falls Church.”

Even in disagreement, Burnett sees moments for pragmatism on the plane of existence in the city. “People can have different perspectives on politics in the city, but we can come together on where is the best coffee at the farmers market.”

Chavern joined the team for similar reasons, he says. “I was happy to volunteer because that’s an important thing with blogs: making it a vibrant community.”

Chavern focuses on the developmental and educational concerns within the city, posting on issues “where I have a strong view” every couple of weeks. Like Burnett, Chavern aims for a more “independent” tone in his posts.

Despite his contributions Chavern does not consider himself a blogger, per se. “I’m not sure when people say, ‘I’m a blogger.’ Is it a full or part-time profession for me? It’s difficult to say I’m a blogger,” he says. “It’s akin to saying there are people who write letters to the editor full-time.”

The key to Blueweeds’ success is Gardner’s consistent “daily slough of material that you don’t tend to get on other sites,” says Chavern.

Chavern added that Blueweeds has had “a positive impact” on the Falls Church community. “Blueweeds gives readers insight that would have been kept at City Hall.”

The Blueweeds team looks forward to continuing churning out regular posts from its three-man team, plus the occasional guest author, but new voices are always sought, says Gardner. “Blogs in general are lacking in female voices.” He suggests that interested female denizens of Falls Church ought to visit the site and gauge their involvement.

http://fcnp.com/2009/01/22/falls-church-citizens-take-civic-engagement-online/

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Michael Gardner, the Falls Church resident whose conviction on two charges of child molestation stemming from incidents in 2011 was overturned by the Virginia Supreme Court earlier this month, was granted release from prison on a $50,000 bond in an Arlington court hearing today pending a retrial scheduled to begin February 2, 2015.

Gardner, former chair of the Falls Church City Democratic Committee and husband of former Falls Church Mayor Robin Gardner, was convicted of molesting two girls at a birthday party at his house in 2011 and sentenced to 22 years in prison in 2012.

The Virginia Supreme Court ruled that the Circuit Court trial judge, Benjamin Kendrick, improperly barred two character witnesses from testifying about whether Gardner had a reputation as a good caretaker of children. Their testimony was limited to Gardner’s general reputation for honesty and peacefulness.

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