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Odd house @495 and gallows [Weird House Near Sound Barrier]
Posted by: Cebmeb ()
Date: June 08, 2011 10:21PM

House addition is sticking out of the 495 sound barrier. Anyone know the story behind that?

edit by Cary: Merged thread "Weird House Near Sound Barrier on 495/Gallows WTF?!?" with into this one. Updated subject line to reflect change.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/27/2011 12:57AM by Cary.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Inquiring mind ()
Date: June 08, 2011 10:44PM

I wish I did know, and hopefully someone on here will know. I am guessing that the homeowner is fighting a legal battle against the Commonwealth's attempt to exercise eminent domain over his property, and, in the meantime, with the HOT lane construction, they have built the planned sound barrier for 495, which, if completed (it is now missing the concrete wall in between the two adjacent I beam supports) will require the property owner to shear off the room that projects between the two I-beams.

You can see this just outside the outer loop of 495, just south of the Gallows Road interchange (as in, immediately south, you will have to look beside you or behind you if you are traveling on the outer loop).

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: busybody ()
Date: June 08, 2011 10:47PM

The house is vacant and is slated to be torn down but seems to be used by construction crews in the meantime.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Ut videam ()
Date: June 08, 2011 11:52PM

Inquiring mind Wrote:
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> You can see this just outside the outer loop of
> 495, just south of the Gallows Road interchange
> (as in, immediately south, you will have to look
> beside you or behind you if you are traveling on
> the outer loop).

Does not compute... 495 is running directly north-south at this point, so immediately south of the interchange = more 495.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: reality ()
Date: June 09, 2011 12:10AM

The house was in a row of houses purchased to make way for the HOT Lanes project. Amazingly few houses were affected in this major widening project.

It is being used as a construction office during construction and then will be torn down. It certainly does look interesting now, but the construction managers can look out their back window and see their project!

It's nice to see them finally starting the shift to the outer lanes. It's been an interesting two years (although I think they are doing a pretty good job of keeping traffic) while they replaced all the bridges along the route. With that done traffic will quickly show some major improvements in the next few months!

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Inquiring mind ()
Date: June 09, 2011 12:38AM

Ut videam Wrote:
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> Inquiring mind Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You can see this just outside the outer loop of
> > 495, just south of the Gallows Road interchange
> > (as in, immediately south, you will have to
> look
> > beside you or behind you if you are traveling
> on
> > the outer loop).
>
> Does not compute... 495 is running directly
> north-south at this point, so immediately south of
> the interchange = more 495.

But to the "outside [of] the outer loop" as you head south (on the outer loop), you would be looking to the west. You need to look west once you are "immediately south" of the interchange. But I bet you knew that, or are too lazy to read, or are simply being a prick. (not calling you a prick, but that appears to be a possibility).

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Ut videam ()
Date: June 09, 2011 12:46AM

No, you're right, I was kind of being a prick. Sorry. But thanks for making it a little clearer all the same.

EDIT: When you say "immediately south" of the interchange, how far are you talking? Right after the Gallows Road overpass? Or right after the ramp from Gallows Road meets the Outer Loop?



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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Bill N ()
Date: June 09, 2011 07:41AM

reality Wrote:
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> It's nice to see them finally starting the shift
> to the outer lanes. It's been an interesting two
> years (although I think they are doing a pretty
> good job of keeping traffic) while they replaced
> all the bridges along the route. With that done
> traffic will quickly show some major improvements
> in the next few months!


What road have you been driving on. They have done an abysmal job of keeping traffic moving. The only thing I would give them credit for is that I think they will finish it up, unlike the Woodrow Wilson Bridge project which they still haven't finished.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: More Detail ()
Date: June 09, 2011 09:50AM

Ut videam Wrote:
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> No, you're right, I was kind of being a prick.
> Sorry. But thanks for making it a little clearer
> all the same.
>
> EDIT: When you say "immediately south" of the
> interchange, how far are you talking? Right after
> the Gallows Road overpass? Or right after the ramp
> from Gallows Road meets the Outer Loop?


Right after the overpass, just alongside the ramp coming from Gallows to 495.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Ut videam ()
Date: June 09, 2011 10:04AM

One of these two, I'm guessing then.


View Larger Map

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Shadow ()
Date: June 09, 2011 10:59AM

The house is yellow, easier to see from the northbound lanes than southbound. It's on the left just before Gallows Rd when you're traveling north.

I believe it's this one.

MAP #: 0592 05 0023
COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA 3411 LUTTRELL RD
Sales History
Date Amount Seller Buyer
08/14/2009 $650,000 ALBAYATI AWS K COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA
07/26/2005 $415,000 HARPER FRANCIS R ALBAYATI AWS K

This zillow listing has an overhead shot of the home as well.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3411-Luttrell-Rd-Annandale-VA-22003/51840167_zpid/#{scid=hdp-site-map-bubble-details}

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: June 09, 2011 11:02AM

Cebmeb Wrote:
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> House addition is sticking out of the 495 sound
> barrier. Anyone know the story behind that?


I can't see behind the barrier :(

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: More detail ()
Date: June 09, 2011 02:49PM

Ut videam Wrote:
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> One of these two, I'm guessing then.
>
> View Larger Map


The lower one. The little part that juts out at the back of the house protrudes between two vertical I-beam supports which would hold the concrete slabs to form the sound barrier. The rest of the barrier is constructed, and is probably no more than a foot or two from the back of the rest of the house.

It appears from another post above that the Commonwealth has purchased the property. Maybe they haven't had time to send in a demolition crew to tear it down.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Ut videam ()
Date: June 09, 2011 02:53PM

The Commonwealth bought all the houses on that side of Luttrell Rd. The two in the photo are the only ones left standing.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: June 09, 2011 07:20PM

Two house on Luttrel still standing were taken because they were to be too close to the Road. Both houses (including the one poking out from the Sound barrier, are used for offices for an egineering company working on the Hot Lanes.

Fairfaxunderground rules: Lilliputions, not ok. Midgettville ok. I got it now.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: whiterussian ()
Date: June 09, 2011 10:04PM

One of the reasons I have not used the Beltway in six months, and may never use it again. I stick to back roads, and it takes me just as long -- or shorter - - to get to work/home. I cannot believe how my stress level has dropped.

There are some days with problems, and sometimes my route fails me. but usually I can keep moving. Satellite radio helps,

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Fegelein ()
Date: June 10, 2011 04:45AM

The long-term question is this; will the HOT Lanes loosen up traffic around here? Probably not.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: dave ()
Date: July 12, 2011 10:39PM

here is a good image I took of it.....was just too funny...
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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Eminence Front ()
Date: July 12, 2011 10:59PM

Thanks, Dave. Your photo almost does not do it justice, when viewed in real time. For all the world, it looked like some homeowner was trying to hold out against the "eminent domain" powers that the Connmonwealth holds against property owners.

It looks something like: "you have offered me 300,000 dollars for my home and property, while neighbors on the other side of the street have sold on the open market for 750,000. I am not budging (even though you are erecting a sound wall 3 feet from the back wall of my house, and intersecting my bumpout) until you offer me "fair market value".

The sound barrier construction workers would probably enjoy dropping/sliding a concrete slab into the slots and chopping off the back room of the house!

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Sunny D ()
Date: July 13, 2011 06:01AM

I understand that the house is being used as a VDOT staging area. As soon as they are finished with the Gallows Road segment of 495, the house will come down and the wall will go up.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Shadow ()
Date: July 13, 2011 07:51AM

The house looks like it had just recently been renovated, it looked like new siding, windows and roof, and then the wall started going up. Very amusing.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: DirtMcGirt ()
Date: July 13, 2011 09:54AM

What a lovely view from your sun room.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Spotter ()
Date: July 15, 2011 12:14PM

Shadow Wrote:
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> The house looks like it had just recently been
> renovated, it looked like new siding, windows and
> roof, and then the wall started going up. Very
> amusing.

(EDIT: 'pay')

We pay to tear down a recently renovated house?
Always looking for halfway houses, shelters and the like.
Why doesn't someone with half a brain say "hey, let's put up the wall and keep the house and use it for others who need it."
What a waste.
That whole row of houses could have been used for transitional housing or some other meaningful purpose.
Now they will all just be landfill.
Where is the sense?

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: July 16, 2011 08:09PM

@spotter - cause we have zoning laws that dont permit houses to be halfway in the middle of exit ramps, that's why.

TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE PICTURE!

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: July 25, 2011 10:19PM

Sunny D Wrote:
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> I understand that the house is being used as a
> VDOT staging area. As soon as they are finished
> with the Gallows Road segment of 495, the house
> will come down and the wall will go up.

Mis-information from an unregistered user alert!

It is not a VDOT staging area. It is being used by a group of engineers and inspectors for the hot lanes project. There are two houses, only one sticks out of the sound wall for now.

Fairfaxunderground rules: Lilliputions, not ok. Midgettville ok. I got it now.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: FUCK_U_WELFARE ()
Date: July 25, 2011 11:14PM


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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Sunny D ()
Date: July 26, 2011 06:18AM

Thank you Radiophile. You are a jerk!!!

They are still all working together for the hot lanes. Trust me, I live a few blocks from this house and see VDOT trucks parked there on a daily basis.

Thank you. Unregistered user

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: July 26, 2011 07:56AM

FUCK_U_WELFARE Wrote:
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> the post just did a story on it.
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/odd-site-house
> -in-va-abuts-capital-beltway/2011/07/25/gIQAYoocZI
> _story.html

They must have heard me thinking out loud about it.


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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: DH ()
Date: July 26, 2011 08:02AM

Staging area or not, the article says the house is owned by VDOT.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: July 26, 2011 09:28AM

Sunny D Wrote:
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> Thank you Radiophile. You are a jerk!!!
>
> They are still all working together for the hot
> lanes. Trust me, I live a few blocks from this
> house and see VDOT trucks parked there on a daily
> basis.
>
> Thank you. Unregistered user


The article said, (you moron):

"There, crews evaluate concrete mixtures used to build new piers, overpasses and bridge decks, Wagner said."

And what did I say?:

"It is not a VDOT staging area. It is being used by a group of engineers and inspectors for the hot lanes project. There are two houses, only one sticks out of the sound wall for now."

What do inspectors do? They evaluate concrete mixtures, measure quantities and the like.

The inspectors and engineers are VDOT subcontractors or "consultants".

I was exactly correct and you were exactly wrong.

Fairfaxunderground rules: Lilliputions, not ok. Midgettville ok. I got it now.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Sunny D ()
Date: July 26, 2011 11:14AM

Unfortunately you are the moron. The fact that you would get all worked up over a comment that I made a while ago, even if it was wrong, shows that you don't have much of a life and enjoy trolling this forum to make yourself look more important than you really are. I feel bad for those close to you in your "real" life. I will keep them in my thoughts and prayers. If you are this much of an ass on this forum, I can only imagine what you are like in person.

Cheers.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: July 26, 2011 03:29PM

I took this pic of the house a few months ago. But I guess the guy who lives a few blocks away and "sees" stuff knows more than I do.

And check the thread Sunny D. All I did was point out your mis-information. You called me a "jerk" for doing that.

The internet was designed originally for "the exchange of useful information". Sorry if I point out mis-information that is disseminated here.

Fairfaxunderground rules: Lilliputions, not ok. Midgettville ok. I got it now.



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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Sunny D ()
Date: July 26, 2011 05:59PM

Thank you so much Radiophile for the update. You are such a wealth of information. I will leave it at that my precious crusader of truth and the american way. Again, I will keep your loved ones in my prayers.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows
Posted by: Sunny D ()
Date: July 26, 2011 07:34PM

Hey Gordon, cut me a break. I happen to be one person that agrees with alot of stuff you say. Don't get involved in this minor "squabble". hee hee

Maybe radio can redeem himself by telling me when I will be able to make a left turn from Gallows Road onto the Beltway (I have been waiting two years to make a "legal" turn)? I have a feeling he works for either VDOT, FluerLanes or something to do with the Hot Lanes.

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Weird House Near Sound Barrier on 495/Gallows WTF?!?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: July 25, 2011 09:24PM

I don't get it. Looks like the barrier wall was knocked out so the homeowner could build an addition (unlikely) or that the barrier wall wasn't planned well and they will have to jut around the little addition part of the home (more likely) Or maybe the homewoner was asked to wither sacrifice the addtion or have the wall miss it (most likely)

Looks stupid to me and kind of crazy.

What say you?


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Re: Weird House Near Sound Barrier on 495/Gallows WTF?!?
Posted by: Ceb ()
Date: July 25, 2011 09:36PM


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Re: Weird House Near Sound Barrier on 495/Gallows WTF?!?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: July 25, 2011 09:43PM

THANKS

Damn right,too! I was puzzled shitless when I saw that.


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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows [Weird House Near Sound Barrier]
Posted by: Bojjio ()
Date: September 08, 2011 05:14PM

I LOVE THE HOUSE I WISH THERE WERE HOUSES POKING OUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE 495. HOUSES ARE SO COOL!!! I LOVE 495

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows [Weird House Near Sound Barrier]
Posted by: THIS WAS MY HOUSE ()
Date: January 27, 2015 07:42PM

HAHAHAHA THIS WAS MY FAMILY'S OLD HOUSE!!!!!
My father built this house and then we moved into it, about 3 years after living here, we got an envelope saying we had to move so that they could construct another highway or something. It was really sad, the house was absolutely beautiful. Now the house has been completely torn down but when that area was still sticking out (was the living room) we would pass by it on the highway and laugh.
Before it was torn down, it was used by the workers as an office.
I cant believe I found this forum, its hilarious, I just showed it to my parents and they were cracking up.
I have pictures of us in front of the house if you guys down believe me!
It's address was: 3411 Luttrell Road
I miss it terribly!!!

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows [Weird House Near Sound Barrier]
Posted by: Huh??? ()
Date: January 28, 2015 04:30PM

THIS WAS MY HOUSE Wrote:
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> HAHAHAHA THIS WAS MY FAMILY'S OLD HOUSE!!!!!
> My father built this house and then we moved into
> it, about 3 years after living here, we got an
> envelope saying we had to move so that they could
> construct another highway or something. It was
> really sad, the house was absolutely beautiful.
> Now the house has been completely torn down but
> when that area was still sticking out (was the
> living room) we would pass by it on the highway
> and laugh.
> Before it was torn down, it was used by the
> workers as an office.
> I cant believe I found this forum, its hilarious,
> I just showed it to my parents and they were
> cracking up.
> I have pictures of us in front of the house if you
> guys down believe me!
> It's address was: 3411 Luttrell Road
> I miss it terribly!!!

Pics or it didn't happen...please.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows [Weird House Near Sound Barrier]
Posted by: Luttrell Road ()
Date: January 28, 2015 05:10PM

I believe that it no longer sticks out.

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows [Weird House Near Sound Barrier]
Posted by: interesting ()
Date: January 28, 2015 05:53PM

That's fascinating. So is the house still currently there? If so, does anyone know when it's slated for demo?

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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows [Weird House Near Sound Barrier]
Posted by: Olga ()
Date: January 28, 2015 06:39PM


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Re: Odd house @495 and gallows [Weird House Near Sound Barrier]
Posted by: interesting ()
Date: January 28, 2015 06:50PM

Olga Wrote:
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> Looks like it is gone per Google street view.
>
>
> https://www.google.com/maps/@38.852925,-77.221084,
> 3a,75y,79.1h,90t/data=!3m3!1e1!3m1!2e0?hl=en&dg=br
> w

That's too bad. I would have liked to see that.

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