i never did like heath bars.

amy baker your killer will be brought to justice.

killer of amy baker beware i am looking at the case from some very different angles.

Hi Mary - I am sorry that a retard (multiple posts above) ruined this thread. Maybe he'll disappear to prison or a mental hospital and we can resume it or start another thread.

Low IQ people can be so hard to tolerate.

hey so fucking annoyed where were you when amy was killed?

maybe annoyed will confess today!

Was she hot?

im going on hiatus from these pages for awhile. ill be looking even deeper.

im back!

I actually witnessed Amy broken down on the side of the road that night. She had the door open to her bug. She was sitting with her legs out of the car. There was a car parked in front of hers and a car parked behind hers. I was driving southbound towards Woodbridge. My boyfriend who is now my husband said “I feel sorry for her” but we continued because she had two cars there. We thought they were helping her. We didn’t have cell phones back then. One of the cars was older and dark. Possibly brown or dark green. On my way back going northbound about 30 - 40 minutes later if that, the two cars were gone but there was a police car parked behind her car. I did not see her. I could not see exactly what was going on at that point. When Amy came up missing I called the Fairfax Co police and gave them a full description of the cars and what Amy was doing. I told them about the police car. I didn’t hear back so I called again and was told they have the information. On an anniversary I called again to ask about the information I supplied. It was the number on the poster. I wrote it down when I saw it inside Roy Rogers. I had a terrible person respond “yeah we already have the same information your giving”. The person didn’t take my name number nothing. A couple of times over the years I have seen her Aunt responding on sites and I told her the same info which she thanked me for. I feel completely guilty every time I see this case because I can still see her sitting with her legs out like she was waiting for someone or one of the cars to check her car out. I always think how I saw the police officer on the way back but that info was not in the news reports. Who was the Officer/Trooper? I wonder. They did the worse search. Her own Mother and Aunt found her and like usual they blamed homeless people as Prince William County did when a girl was killed in the woods. The investigation was completely botched especially when you automatically assume homeless people.

Does anyone know what type of vehicle he had?

Mary posted a photo of a man at one point. Who is this man? Suspect? I would be curious what he drove at the time.

I believe the photo is Edward Earl who is still in prison for sex offenses.




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> Mary posted a photo of a man at one point. Who is
> this man? Suspect? I would be curious what he
> drove at the time.

I remember you passing this information to me and I thank you again for caring. I believe all of us have lived with the "what if" for years. You did nothing wrong and I am sorry the FX PD treated you so badly.

the search continues.

hello everyone

did anyone see any persons when she was seen with the two cars parked near hers?

second request.

if there were 2 cars near hers that evening we have to ascertain in which one the killer had.

someone must know.

info please

Anything else
Attachments:

always!

no make no model not even the colour of any of the cars?vague info produces vague results

Why couldn’t have it been a worthless bitch like MP Secada? Daddy issue psycho at JMU?????

Does anyone know what happened to Amys car after she died?

The retard is still here.

did you kill amy so tired of you?

Found an interesting article about a local homicide from 1956 that was solved using DNA. They don’t even need the killers FNA anymore. They can use data from distant relatives.

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/12/1005690930/detectives-just-used-dna-to-solve-a-1956-double-homicide-they-may-have-made-hist

Detectives Just Used DNA To Solve A 1956 Double Homicide. They May Have Made History
It was only three days into the year 1956 when three boys from Montana, out for a hike on a normal January day, made a gruesome discovery they were unlikely to ever forget.
During a walk near the Sun River, they found 18-year-old Lloyd Duane Bogle, dead from a gunshot wound to the head. They found him on the ground near his car, and someone had used his belt to tie his hands behind his back, according to a report from the Great Falls Tribune. The next day brought another disturbing discovery: a county road worker found 16-year-old Patricia Kalitzke's body in an area north of Great Falls, the paper reports. She'd been shot in the head, just as Bogle had been, but she'd also been sexually assaulted.
Their killings went unsolved until this week when investigators announced they had cracked what is believed to be the oldest case solved with DNA and forensic genealogy.
The victims were discovered in lover's lane
Bogle, an airman hailing from Texas, and Kalitzke, a junior at Great Falls High School, had fallen for each other and were even considering marriage, the Tribune reports. The place where they were believed to have been killed was a known "lover's lane," according to a clipping from a local newspaper posted on a memorial page.
But their love story was brutally cut short by the actions of a killer whose identity would not be revealed for more than 60 years. And it was not for lack of trying: early on in the case, investigators followed numerous leads, but none of them panned out. The case eventually went cold.
For decades, the Cascade County Sheriff's Office continued to work on it, with multiple detectives attempting to make progress over the years. One such investigator was Det. Sgt. Jon Kadner, who was assigned the case in 2012 — his first cold case, he said during an interview with NPR. He was immediately met with the daunting task of digitizing the expansive case file, an endeavor that took months.
He continued to work on the Kalitzke/Bogle case even while handling the newer cases that were landing on his desk all the time, but he had a feeling that more was needed to get to the bottom of what had happened to the couple, all those decades ago.
"My first impression was that the only way we're gonna ever solve this is through the use of DNA," Kadner said.
Detectives turned to a new forensic investigation
Fortunately, Kadner had something to work with. During Kalitzke's autopsy in 1956, coroners had taken a vaginal swab, which had been preserved on a microscopic slide in the years since, according to the Great Falls Tribune report. Phil Matteson, a now-retired detective with the sheriff's office, sent that sample to a local lab for testing in 2001, and the team there identified sperm that did not belong to Bogle, her boyfriend, the paper reports.
Armed with this knowledge, Kadner in 2019 sought out the assistance of Bode Technology. After forensic genealogy was used to finally nab the Golden State Killer the year prior, law enforcement officials were becoming increasingly aware of the potential to use that technology to solve cold cases — even decades-old cases like Kalitzke and Bogle's.
With the help of partnering labs, forensic genealogists are able to use preserved samples to create a DNA profile of the culprit and then use that profile to search public databases for any potential matches. In most cases, those profiles can end up linking to distant relatives of the culprit — say, a second or third cousin. By searching public records (such as death certificates and newspaper clippings) forensic genealogists are then able to construct a family tree that can point them right to the suspect, even if that suspect has never provided their DNA to any public database.
In this case, "Our genealogists, what they're going to do is independently build a family tree from this cousin's profile," Andrew Singer, an executive with Bode Technology, told NPR. He called it "a reverse family tree. ... We're essentially going backwards. We're starting with a distant relative and trying to work back toward our unknown sample."
It worked: DNA testing led investigators to a man named Kenneth Gould. Before moving to Missouri in 1967, Gould had lived with his wife and children in the Great Falls area around the time of the murders, according to the Tribune.
"It felt great because for the first time in 65 years we finally had a direction and a place to take the investigation," Kadner told NPR. "Because it was all theories up to that point ... we finally had a match and we had a name. That changed the whole dynamic of the case."
Investigators' goal is a safer world
But there was one big problem: Gould had died in 2007 and his remains had been cremated, according to the Tribune. The only way to prove his guilt or his innocence was to test the DNA of his remaining relatives.
Detectives had an uncomfortable task ahead of them: letting a dead man's family know that, despite the fact that he'd never previously been identified as a person of interest, he was now the key suspect in a double homicide and rape.
Authorities traveled to Missouri, where they spoke with Gould's children and told them about the Kalitzke/Bogle case and eventually identified their father as a suspect, Kadner said. They asked for the family's help in either proving or disapproving that Gould was the man responsible and the family complied.
The test results said Gould was the guy. With the killer finally identified, Kadner was able to reach out to the victims' surviving relatives and deliver the closure that had taken more than 60 years to procure. It was a bittersweet revelation: they were grateful for answers, but for many of the older people in the family, it was a struggle to have those wounds reopened.
"They're excited, but at the same time, it has brought up a lot of memories," Kadner said.
Now, the sheriff's office is considering forming a cold case task force, as other law enforcement agencies have done. The hope is that they'll be able to provide more families with the answers they deserve and, in many cases, have spent years waiting for.
"If there's new technology and we are able to potentially solve something, we want to keep working at it, because ultimately we're trying to do it for the family," he said. "Give them some closure."
The Kalitzke/Bogle case is one of the oldest criminal cases that has been solved using forensic genealogy, and authorities are hopeful that they'll be able to use this ever-advancing technology to solve cold cases dating back even further — although new legislation could complicate matters.
Even without that complication, Singer explained to NPR, the success rate depends heavily on how well the evidence of any particular case has been preserved over the years. Still, he hopes that it can be used to help law enforcement improve public safety and "[prevent] tomorrow's victim."
"It's really fantastic technology and it's going to solve a lot of cold cases," Singer said.
Copyright 2021 NPR. To see more, visit NPR.

thank you!

i dont see why va police dont use the dna in the case.

It was a blue 1970 volkswagon beetle.Like what happened to it after she died?was it sold junked given away anyone know?

excellent question sir!

does anyone have the answer?

the two cars next to amys was a dark-colored, early '80s Buick and a blue Ford Escort...that is vewy vewy intewesting

wandalls vehicle 1977 dawk green oldmobile been mistaken 4 early 80's buick? wandall did have wope in there.dna?pewhaps wandalls accomplise doesnt have a cwiminal wecord.felons submitt dna by law or voluntarily to see if they awe welated to CHRIStopher columbus,if wandall had an accomplise that would completely shattew wandalls alibi in anotha case pewhaps the police should look at all welatives and fwiends associates of wandalls for a blue pos ford escowt car pewhaps justice for Amy is attainable

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1989/08/29/police-find-knife-rope-in-va-rape-suspects-car/bb7892e5-8fb0-458d-8f95-15f986b97a4d/

thamk again kind people!

the info gives hope!

the article that mentions the buick and blue escort

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1989/04/04/police-hunt-for-answers-in-slaying-of-va-woman/47501ffe-cba9-4a76-a7ea-08dbd86bf75b/

thank you so much!

Lord please let this be helpful!

did al heathbar own a car of either make?

swhat cars did suspects own around that time?

the car aspect is a good angel to reopen the case!

I wish they would find out who did this. Her family deserves answers. They need to reopen this. There are so many new advances in technology. She deserves peace.

ABOLUTELY!

Birthday of everyone involved
Parents Occupation
Religion
List of names
Dates of events
Second Marriage?

Dates of the articles have a system.
Would the news lie?

you guys got this all fucked up{pardon my french} you have to find the blue car and everything will come full circle and tie in perfectly like a puzzle........BLUE FORD ESCORT.if the dna hasn't been ran recently with todays modern technology due to limited resources budget cuts whathaveyounot then maybe amys family could use the reward money to do that instead with one of thee more prestigious companies that offer top notch genealogy testing.

Religious beliefs?
Second wife?
Birthday. I see a 66
Where the family now?
Full names.
Anything?
Just wasting time here keeping this story going?

Youre probably looking for something like this.
Attachments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1kHFnXnHfA&ab_channel=BingCrosby-Topic

funny.not.

i feel amys killer frequents these pages. has the new interest i garnered got you worried?

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> i feel amys killer frequents these pages. has the
> new interest i garnered got you worried?


Eat a lot of paint chips when you were little?

The frequent poster above could be a full blown retard.

so tired of you Wrote:
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> The frequent poster above could be a full blown
> retard.

says the dipshit that doesn't know how to use the quote feature dont you know how to internets?wtf you been?

my my seems like i smoked someone out! is a confession forthcoming?

Is mr man mean anything?

im the man who is going to find amys killer!

Is there any pictures of her man I feel bad for you.

there are plenty of sites you can go on to look at men. are you her killer? i mean since my poking around seems to bother you.

I may know something about this but will never talk

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> I may know something about this but will never
> talk


Based on some of your other posts, I wouldn’t doubt it at all. Kill yourself.

Amy’s case is solvable…don’t need ya

there was a phone call made to the crime solvers line several years after the murder. what was the nature of that call and who made it?

info on that phone call please! who made it?

phone call info info!

i believe whoever made that call was surpressed by the killer. please speak out person!

hey amys killer i hope you take a peek at these pages today!

Mr. Man.

Please kill yourself.

So you were there.

mr man is not suicidal but investigative. are you her killer?

killer confess!

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> killer confess!


The gears have been set in motion their time is running out shhh…

i believe so!

Hint:
Use numbers and you’ll figure it out.
Quick too.

ill use anything i can!

if amys killer reads these pages remember when you look long into an abyss the abyss looks long into you.

i still need info on the phone call that was made!

the phonrcall please!

spmeone made that call!

amy will get justice.

hello im back to solve the amy baker case!

i believe the asshole kill is trying to make it harder for me to post here. just give yourself up!

help solve amys case!

i believe amys killer reads my posts and the got him scared!

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> i believe amys killer reads my posts and the got
> him scared!


Your method will never work…I think Amy’s killer can’t use a computer.I hope Amy’s family took my advice and used the reward money to use one of those fancy dna companies since the money hasn’t yielded any results over the years that’s what they did in this case

https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-cold-case-death-boy-decades

I attempted to contact someone from the area to get more info but I have not received a response it’ll come together all in due time

Oh and I need the real Chris not the fake chris

mr plucky you are correct. thank you for the help and info.

lets use the dna

i know its summer lets not forget amu!

to amys killer; we know more than you think.

amys killer is a no good bastard!

he needs to turn himslf in.

bump

you all have heard of serendipity. i am serendipity! amys killler should look the world up in the dictionary

serendipity!

if amys killer reads theses pages you will be caught!

amys killer is on the brink of guilt!