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1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Cold Case Investigations ()
Date: June 08, 2011 08:17AM

FAIRFAX COUNTY CRIME SOLVERS
News Release
Case # 1266
Release Date: March 29, 2010

Crime Solvers Seeks Information on Cold Case Homicide

Fairfax County Crime Solvers is still seeking the public’s assistance identifying the person responsible for a homicide that occurred 21 years ago. About 9:00 p.m. on Wednesday, March 29, 1989, 18-year-old Amy Baker was driving southbound on Interstate 95 near Backlick Road when her car experienced difficulties. Amy abandoned her blue 1970 Volkswagon Bug and walked up the exit ramp onto Backlick Road, toward the Exxon gas station. Detectives believe that her attacker confronted her on Backlick Road and forced her into the woods near the top of the exit ramp, where she was sexually assaulted and strangled. Her body, which was found two days later, was partially buried in some leaves.

Detectives continue to investigate her death and would like to speak with anyone who may have been in the area at the time of the attack, or who may have knowledge of the incident.

In addition to the $1,000 cash reward offered by Crime Solvers, a $26,000 private reward is also being offered for information which leads to an arrest and indictment in this case. Anyone with information is asked to contact Crime Solvers by phone at 1-866-411-TIPS(8477), e-mail at www.fairfaxcrimesolvers.org or text “TIP187” plus your message to CRIMES(274637). As always, callers never have to give their names or appear in court.

CALLERS MAY REMAIN ANONYMOUS
Fairfax County Crime Solvers
4100 Chain Bridge Road
Fairfax, Virginia 22030
TIP LINE - 1-866-411-TIPS
EMAIL Tips at www.fairfaxcrimesolvers.org
Text "TIP187" plus your message to CRIMES
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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Chuck Bronco ()
Date: June 08, 2011 10:46AM

I've worked in that area for the past 7 years. Nice to know it's always been a complete ghetto, even back then. I'd never heard of this murder before. I did some further research on it and found that it was Amy Baker's own mother that found her body in the bushes after 2 days of not knowing what happened to her daughter. A tragic story that makes it that much more depressing to commute to this area every morning.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Cold Case Investigations ()
Date: June 08, 2011 01:12PM

Chuck Bronco Wrote:
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> I've worked in that area for the past 7 years.
> Nice to know it's always been a complete ghetto,
> even back then. I'd never heard of this murder
> before. I did some further research on it and
> found that it was Amy Baker's own mother that
> found her body in the bushes after 2 days of not
> knowing what happened to her daughter. A tragic
> story that makes it that much more depressing to
> commute to this area every morning.

How was her mother able to find her body when the police back then didn't? Hmmmmmmmm...

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: 6X ()
Date: June 08, 2011 01:25PM

Strangled. I wonder if she was robbed also.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Chuck Bronco ()
Date: June 08, 2011 01:34PM

"Sue Baker, Amy’s mother, started making hand-written posters that read, “Have You Seen Amy Baker?”

When a day passed with no word from police, she and Amy’s aunt Mary Bellett decided to look around the woods near I-95 themselves.

Tragically, it was Sue Baker who discovered her daughter’s body.
Over the years, leads have developed and suspects have been identified, but the case has not been solved."

http://dev.www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/crime/Police-family-stay-vigilant-in-20-year-old-slaying-42880437.html

I guess because the body was in the brush and half-way covered with leaves, the chopper couldn't see it from the air. But it is weird that if her car was broken down about a half mile away with the blinkers on that a sweep of the area wouldn't have her turned her up. I'm sure a police dog would have found it's way right to her. It's too bad, I can't imagine what kind of a nightmare-come-true that must be for a parent to find the body of their own kid.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Cold Case Investigations ()
Date: June 08, 2011 01:37PM

I would have thought they would have had dogs and people on the ground doing the search. That's a pretty big thing to miss during an investigation.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Chuck Bronco ()
Date: June 08, 2011 02:21PM

I guess since she's only been missing for 2 days they'd only really just started looking.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Cold Case Investigations ()
Date: June 08, 2011 04:10PM

Chuck Bronco Wrote:
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> I guess since she's only been missing for 2 days
> they'd only really just started looking.

Of course they may have had different procedures back then also.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Unsolved Murder ()
Date: August 23, 2011 01:31PM

Location Of The Murder of Amy Baker (Unsolved Murder)
http://wikimapia.org/12071233/Location-Of-The-Murder-of-Amy-Baker-Unsolved-Murder

Fairfax County Crime Solvers is still seeking the public’s assistance identifying the person responsible for a homicide that occurred 18 years ago. About 9:00 p.m. on Wednesday, March 29, 1989, 18-year-old Amy Baker was driving southbound on Interstate 95 near Backlick Road when her car experienced difficulties. Amy abandoned her blue 1970 Volkswagon Bug and walked up the exit ramp onto Backlick Road, toward the Exxon Station. Detectives believe that her attacker confronted her on Backlick Road and forced her into the woods near the top of the exit ramp, where she was sexually assaulted and strangled. Her body, which was found two days later, was partially buried in some leaves.

Detectives continue to investigate her death and would like to speak with anyone who may have been in the area at the time of the attack, or who may have seen Amy or anyone else in that area. They are particularly anxious to speak with Crime Solvers caller #6125, who called the tip line on Wednesday, April 3, 1996, with information on the case.

In addition to the $1000 cash reward offered by Crime Solvers, a $25,000 private reward is also being offered for information which leads to an arrest and indictment in this case.

Anyone with information on this homicide or the person responsible is asked to call Fairfax County Crime Solvers at 1-866-411-TIPS / 1-866-411-8477.
As always, callers never have to give their names or appear in court.

www.fairfaxcrimesolvers.org/ColdCases/Baker.html
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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: August 23, 2011 01:34PM

Cold Case Investigations Wrote:
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> Chuck Bronco Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I guess since she's only been missing for 2
> days
> > they'd only really just started looking.
>
> Of course they may have had different procedures
> back then also.


Most likely, they were incompetent.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Elliot_Ness ()
Date: August 23, 2011 06:03PM

Chuck Bronco Wrote:
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> I've worked in that area for the past 7 years.
> Nice to know it's always been a complete ghetto,
> even back then. I'd never heard of this murder
> before. I did some further research on it and
> found that it was Amy Baker's own mother that
> found her body in the bushes after 2 days of not
> knowing what happened to her daughter. A tragic
> story that makes it that much more depressing to
> commute to this area every morning.

Sir, you've lived here 7 years. This murder took place 22 years ago, long before MS-13 and all the other current undesirable elements moved in. It was NOT a ghetto then. Check the crime statistics before you run your mouth. You have no historical perspective.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: ......... ()
Date: August 25, 2011 11:23AM

Johnny Walker Wrote:


> Most likely, they were incompetent.

That suggests that they are now competent.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Robert Stack ()
Date: August 25, 2011 12:19PM

Elliot_Ness Wrote:
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> Chuck Bronco Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I've worked in that area for the past 7 years.
> > Nice to know it's always been a complete
> ghetto,
> > even back then. I'd never heard of this murder
> > before. I did some further research on it and
> > found that it was Amy Baker's own mother that
> > found her body in the bushes after 2 days of
> not
> > knowing what happened to her daughter. A tragic
> > story that makes it that much more depressing
> to
> > commute to this area every morning.
>
> Sir, you've lived here 7 years. This murder took
> place 22 years ago, long before MS-13 and all the
> other current undesirable elements moved in. It
> was NOT a ghetto then. Check the crime statistics
> before you run your mouth. You have no historical
> perspective.

Psst...It was a ghetto, black people lived there before the Hispanics! (Psst...Remember "Good Times"? - http://classic-tv.com/theme-songs/good-times-theme-song.html)

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Chuck Bronco ()
Date: August 25, 2011 12:55PM

Elliot_Ness Wrote:
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> Chuck Bronco Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I've worked in that area for the past 7 years.
> > Nice to know it's always been a complete
> ghetto,
> > even back then. I'd never heard of this murder
> > before. I did some further research on it and
> > found that it was Amy Baker's own mother that
> > found her body in the bushes after 2 days of
> not
> > knowing what happened to her daughter. A tragic
> > story that makes it that much more depressing
> to
> > commute to this area every morning.
>
> Sir, you've lived here 7 years. This murder took
> place 22 years ago, long before MS-13 and all the
> other current undesirable elements moved in. It
> was NOT a ghetto then. Check the crime statistics
> before you run your mouth. You have no historical
> perspective.

Lorton is the rancid asshole of Northern Virginia, this is not breaking news. Make peace with it and don't take it out on me.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Elliot_Ness ()
Date: August 25, 2011 12:56PM

Robert Stack Wrote:
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> Elliot_Ness Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Chuck Bronco Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I've worked in that area for the past 7
> years.
> > > Nice to know it's always been a complete
> > ghetto,
> > > even back then. I'd never heard of this
> murder
> > > before. I did some further research on it and
> > > found that it was Amy Baker's own mother that
> > > found her body in the bushes after 2 days of
> > not
> > > knowing what happened to her daughter. A
> tragic
> > > story that makes it that much more depressing
> > to
> > > commute to this area every morning.
> >
> > Sir, you've lived here 7 years. This murder
> took
> > place 22 years ago, long before MS-13 and all
> the
> > other current undesirable elements moved in. It
> > was NOT a ghetto then. Check the crime
> statistics
> > before you run your mouth. You have no
> historical
> > perspective.
>
> Psst...It was a ghetto, black people lived there
> before the Hispanics! (Psst...Remember "Good
> Times"? -
> http://classic-tv.com/theme-songs/good-times-theme
> -song.html)


Bob Stack = Elliot Ness
Well played, sir! :)

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Robert Stack ()
Date: August 25, 2011 01:03PM

Elliot_Ness Wrote:
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> Robert Stack Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Elliot_Ness Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Chuck Bronco Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I've worked in that area for the past 7
> > years.
> > > > Nice to know it's always been a complete
> > > ghetto,
> > > > even back then. I'd never heard of this
> > murder
> > > > before. I did some further research on it
> and
> > > > found that it was Amy Baker's own mother
> that
> > > > found her body in the bushes after 2 days
> of
> > > not
> > > > knowing what happened to her daughter. A
> > tragic
> > > > story that makes it that much more
> depressing
> > > to
> > > > commute to this area every morning.
> > >
> > > Sir, you've lived here 7 years. This murder
> > took
> > > place 22 years ago, long before MS-13 and all
> > the
> > > other current undesirable elements moved in.
> It
> > > was NOT a ghetto then. Check the crime
> > statistics
> > > before you run your mouth. You have no
> > historical
> > > perspective.
> >
> > Psst...It was a ghetto, black people lived
> there
> > before the Hispanics! (Psst...Remember "Good
> > Times"? -
> >
> http://classic-tv.com/theme-songs/good-times-theme
>
> > -song.html)
>
>
> Bob Stack = Elliot Ness
> Well played, sir! :)

Thank You!
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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Archie ()
Date: December 02, 2011 01:53AM

Has it caught eyes of authorities that this could be similar MO to a body (skeletal remains found near Wooded area near Sharpsburg Road in
Centreville 2 years later? Is it possible that this crime probably took place around the same time but remains were found later for the other victim. Both locations (for Baker and unknown woman) are about 20 miles apart, both wooded areas very close to parking and freeways.
Besides this, other women victims have been found dead in nearby areas in 10 mile radius--around similar timelines.
Simple maps need to plotted to find where bodies have been found. In addition a list of people who have been arrested for rape/murder in nearby states such as Maryland or North Carolina--since these sites are close to freeways.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Stinkfist ()
Date: December 02, 2011 02:10PM

Archie Wrote:
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> Has it caught eyes of authorities that this could
> be similar MO to a body (skeletal remains found
> near Wooded area near Sharpsburg Road in
> Centreville 2 years later? Is it possible that
> this crime probably took place around the same
> time but remains were found later for the other
> victim. Both locations (for Baker and unknown
> woman) are about 20 miles apart, both wooded areas
> very close to parking and freeways.
> Besides this, other women victims have been found
> dead in nearby areas in 10 mile radius--around
> similar timelines.
> Simple maps need to plotted to find where bodies
> have been found. In addition a list of people who
> have been arrested for rape/murder in nearby
> states such as Maryland or North Carolina--since
> these sites are close to freeways.

That's interesting. I wonder how many active serial killers are in FFX county...

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: SoyIentGreen ()
Date: December 04, 2011 09:08AM

it IS odd her mom found her..........

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: December 26, 2011 05:34PM

Chuck Bronco Wrote:
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> "Sue Baker, Amy’s mother, started making
> hand-written posters that read, “Have You Seen
> Amy Baker?”
>
> When a day passed with no word from police, she
> and Amy’s aunt Mary Bellett decided to look
> around the woods near I-95 themselves.
>
> Tragically, it was Sue Baker who discovered her
> daughter’s body.
> Over the years, leads have developed and suspects
> have been identified, but the case has not been
> solved."
>
> http://dev.www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/crime/
> Police-family-stay-vigilant-in-20-year-old-slaying
> -42880437.html
>
> I guess because the body was in the brush and
> half-way covered with leaves, the chopper couldn't
> see it from the air. But it is weird that if her
> car was broken down about a half mile away with
> the blinkers on that a sweep of the area wouldn't
> have her turned her up. I'm sure a police dog
> would have found it's way right to her. It's too
> bad, I can't imagine what kind of a
> nightmare-come-true that must be for a parent to
> find the body of their own kid.


I am the aunt of Amy and the one that was with her mother when we found her. YES, the police screwed this up from the very start and they just wanted it to go away. It started when the State trooper towed her car off of the highway and stated on his report that nothing of value was found in her car when there were a lot of things of value in her car. That made the Fairfax police decide that she wasn't really missing that she had parked her car on I-95 and ran away. HUH? She had turned 18 a couple weeks before, the car belonged to her and she didn't need to "run" anywhere, all she would have to do is wave goodbye and go if she had wanted to leave but we couldn't make anyone see that. The helicopter looked for her when it went up for traffic, it dipped one way then the other and then went on down the road. I watched it. The day her mother, my sister-in-law, and I decided to search for her a female officer from Fairfax had told me she would meet us where we knew the car had been towed. No one showed so it was up to her mother and me to search. We started from where we knew the car had been towed and walked into the surrounding woods. It took us about a half hour to see what pure evil really is. I could write volumes about everything that has been done wrong in this case but I usually come off sounding like a cop hater when the truth is I'm not as I am married to a retired Fairfax County Officer who was active duty when this happened. He did say at the time he was embarrassed to say he was a part of that department when it came to Amy's case. BTW, his last name is not Bellett so don't bother looking for him under that name. I don't hide when it comes to Amy and if anyone wants to contact me please feel free to do so at Bellett777@wmconnect.com, please put Amy in the subject line, I will be glad to write you.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: heartbreaking story ()
Date: December 27, 2011 04:32PM

As a mother, this saddens me. I hope you find the killer.

Will the police give you access to the crime file?

Your best bet would be to reinterview the people they talked to--chances are they missed something--given the incompetence shown.

Maybe someone who was working at the gas station saw someone?

Chances are this murderer has killed again and is probably in jail.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: December 27, 2011 05:40PM

Thank you for your concern and compassion about Amy. Her car broke down at 9:30 at night and it was dark outside at that time. It is believed she was walking to the gas station to call someone for help but never made it that far before being abducted. I had parked my car at the gas station the morning we started searching for her and you couldn't see the spot where we found her from there. However, since she broke down on I-95 I still find it hard to believe with all the traffic at that exit that no one saw her with anyone. We know she made it partway to the station before being abducted and Newington is always a busy interchange.

Since none of the original police officers that embarrassed themselves when it came to Amy's case are still active duty we always hope that someone that doesn't want to sweep this case under the rug because of the way it was handled will really delve into it and it will be solved. They have evidence but it has never been able to be linked to anyone.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Herman M. ()
Date: December 28, 2011 03:11PM

Alittle more than three years ago, I learned a cruel lesson. If you care about someone you do not know and try to gain justice for that person who cannot do it for themselves, it will backfire and the authorities rightfully or not eye you as the suspect. About three years ago,I was searching the web for auto accident statistics involving pedestrians . Crimesolvers came up and I happened on the Cold Case of Amy Baker.The crime made me angry.She looked like a sweet, gentle girl I knew years ago and I owned the same type of vehicle. I met the group leader of crime solvers at a coffee shop in Alexandria and offered $1000. toward the effort and later another $3000 to boost the total to 30000 to lure some info.I had some 4X6 ft. professional posters made and my daughter and I went inside that cloverleaf on that drizzly cold March Day. I talked to people and businesses in the area.They had that check which was clearly donated to Amy for almost two months as I remember and it wasn't posted. One reply was, We're looking for the proper wording.We had a bad snow.Schools were open.The coordinator of Crime solvers was rude.I wanted publicity. One camera showed up-unidentified.I called another who didn't show. I wanted to contact the parents. His reply was , "people forget over time " and "your freaking me out". 1000$ never posted. H.M.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Herman M. ()
Date: December 28, 2011 03:27PM

I might add that just this week , I was cleaning my files out at work and came across a folder I kept on Amy Baker. I opened it and remembered what the T.V. interviewer said. I turned around and called him. I had to leave a voicemail . -One thing I know is that you don't have children-a parent never forgets. I hope you were freaked out-Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.Good bye."There is a sobbing of the strong and pall upon the nation.But the people in their weeping bare the iron hand. Beware the people weeping when they bare the iron hand " Herman M.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: December 28, 2011 04:42PM

Herman,

If Amy's parents were ever told of your efforts no one ever told me. The reward that is offered comes from an uncle of Amy's. I will be sure to tell Mark & Sue what you have just told me and to tell you the truth it doesn't surprise me. We got so frustrated trying to get the word out about the reward that I wrote a letter to the Washington Post and they published it in their Outlook section and titled it When Murder Meets with Apathy, we were told "No, thanks" when we asked to put reward fliers up in stores, we were not allowed to put them in rest areas, radio stations wouldn't broadcast it even if we paid for it because their viewers found that kind of thing too depressing. They didn't hesitate to broadcast that she had been found murdered but refused to broadcast there was a reward.

No, we never forget, my brother and sister in-law amaze me with their strength, they are my heroes. However, Amy's death has taken a hard toll on our family. My father didn't live too many years after the death of his only granddaughter. Amy's brother got as far away from the area as possible. Sue and I look at each other and see the pain in each others eyes because we know the evil that only we saw that day we found Amy. Just seeing each other reminds us of that day without a word being spoken, we don't see each other often. Whoever did this managed to kill a part of all of us.

I wish I had known of your effort and I Thank You so much for trying. Yes, people do forget and even expect us to be "over it" by now. The problem with this case is that there wouldn't have been any news about it at all if the police had their way. My father went to his grave wanting to find her killer and the rest of us will be searching until he is caught or until we die too.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Sheila ()
Date: March 27, 2012 09:02PM

I would have hoped by now they had found her do this to Amy and her family. I do know that she was a good kid. She was the first person not related to me to watch my newborn son. I would have thought that Fairfax County Police would have done the right thing and worked harder to find who murdered Amy, as her mother worked for a county contractor for towing and her father was a fire figther.

Please let Sue and Mark know that I do think and pray about them all.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: sorry ()
Date: March 27, 2012 09:08PM

Sheila....maybe the police have no leads to investigate. thats why it is called a cold case. that doesnt mean they have not tried to investigate a crime, if there is no new information what are they suppose to look into. its sad, but sometimes murderers are never captured. random murders are the most difficult to solve, and unfortunately some are never solved.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: April 09, 2012 08:46PM

Sheila,

Thank you for your kind thoughts. I believe Sue checks here every once in awhile to read the posts but I will pass along your message to her. We also hope that one day there will be a break in this case. Amy deserves justice.

Mary

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Date: April 10, 2012 03:46PM

Had to have been some homeless guy who's DNA isn't on file probably. Terrible story, hopefully they get a break. People who do something this horrible usually are repeat offenders so at some point you hope they get his DNA.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Bobby Collingsworth ()
Date: April 10, 2012 04:22PM

I don't know if this is relevant or not but I have long heard that homeless live in makeshift camps inside of those interstate exit/enter loops where there is usually plenty of foliage. It seems certainly possible that it was a homeless or mentally deranged drifter who did this then fled. I'm really sorry for your loss.

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this thread should be bumped until this girl's killer is caught
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 11, 2012 07:50AM

as for the homeless person theory.................that really doesnt make any sense as most ppl who live in the woods tend to shy away from other ppl

I always thought her car broke down and someone driving by (I always stereotype a trucker in the scenario) took advantage of the situation by deciding to do evil.

I really want this case to be solved. I worked with a cousin of hers at a gas station like 10-12 years ago and I remember how this crime still affected him then. :(

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: McGruff - The Crime Dog! ()
Date: April 11, 2012 08:28AM

For any investigators who might be reading this post, it might be worthwhile to run a DNA check again. The various DNA list has been updated and might be worth the effort to run the DNA sample from this case (as well as others). You might be pleasantly surprised by the outcome.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: April 24, 2012 03:41PM

bump

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 26, 2012 09:33AM

bump

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker / Unsolved Mystery
Posted by: McGruff - The Crime Dog! ()
Date: May 26, 2012 12:58PM

Not much progress on this story, although I did find a newspaper article offering a $10,000 reward.
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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker / Unsolved Mystery
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: June 07, 2012 09:05PM

That was one of the first articles about the reward in the paper. The reward is now $26,000 with $25,000 of that being offered by a family member.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: June 08, 2012 04:04PM

bump

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Understandable ()
Date: June 08, 2012 09:39PM

Wow... I feel so sorry for her family, I think not knowing what happened to her would be so heartbreaking obviously. it is so freaking frustrating when you watch a program about someone who went missing, and the person who did it won't say a word, case in point, The Boy in Abruba who killed the girl in his hotel room. We all know he killed Natalie Halloway. You would think since he is in jail for the rest of his life , He would give her family the closure they deserve. Same with this family, you don't want to turn yourself in fine!! But atleast make a anonymous call tell them where her body is!!!

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Tina123 ()
Date: August 16, 2012 09:04PM


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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Shiki ()
Date: October 15, 2012 08:54PM

I grew up in DC and ran in some of the same circles as Amy. Being the same age and just carefree kids her brutal murder and the details of her mom and aunt finding her was a shock. I have always thought about Amy and hoped that her murderer would be brought to justice. Although the case remains unsolved so far I am glad to see people are still talking about her case and I'm hopeful that her murder will be solved and that her family and loved ones will find some peace.

Shiki

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: McGruff - The Crime Dog! ()
Date: October 19, 2012 03:35AM

Unsolved Cases for Review-Amy Baker
http://longhaulterritorykiller.com/2012/08/10/amy-baker/

Link: http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/play/1376435/21_year_old_cold_case_still_unsolved?cpt=8

Fairfax County Crime Solvers is still seeking the public’s assistance identifying the person responsible for a homicide that occurred 21 years ago. About 9:00 p.m. on Wednesday, March 29, 1989, 18-year-old Amy Baker was driving southbound on Interstate 95 near Backlick Road when her car experienced difficulties. Amy abandoned her blue 1970 Volkswagon Bug and walked up the exit ramp onto Backlick Road, toward the Exxon gas station. Detectives believe that her attacker confronted her on Backlick Road and forced her into the woods near the top of the exit ramp, where she was sexually assaulted and strangled. Her body, which was found two days later, was partially buried in some leaves.

Detectives continue to investigate her death and would like to speak with anyone who may have been in the area at the time of the attack, or who may have knowledge of the incident.

In addition to the $1,000 cash reward offered by Crime Solvers, a $26,000 private reward is also being offered for information which leads to an arrest and indictment in this case. Anyone with information is asked to contact Crime Solvers by phone at 1-866-411-TIPS(8477), e-mail atwww.fairfaxcrimesolvers.org or text “TIP187” plus your message to CRIMES(274637). As always, callers never have to give their names or appear in court.

CALLERS MAY REMAIN ANONYMOUS
Fairfax County Crime Solvers
4100 Chain Bridge Road
Fairfax, Virginia 22030
TIP LINE – 1-866-411-TIPS
EMAIL Tips at www.fairfaxcrimesolvers.org
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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: McGruff - The Crime Dog! ()
Date: October 19, 2012 03:36AM

21-Year-Old Cold Case Still Unsolved
WTTG FOX 5 Washington, DC
Mar. 29, 2010. 05:59 PM EST
http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/play/1376435/21_year_old_cold_case_still_unsolved?cpt=8

It's been 21 years since an 18-year-old girl from Fairfax County was murdered. The crime happened on Easter Sunday, and for two decades, Amy Baker's parents have been living with the pain and the mystery of their daughter's death.

Watch the video here...
http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/play/1376435

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: October 19, 2012 08:29AM

bump

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: lolzzzzz ()
Date: October 19, 2012 08:38AM

Very odd story, I remember when it happened andit put everyone in a panic. Sad... I could go with the crazed deranged truck driver theory. Who knows one day they might get caught, it does happen all the time.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: HOA MGR ()
Date: October 19, 2012 08:38AM

Gordy, she was dumped, not bumped.

You're so silly.

we am real

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: lolzzzzz ()
Date: October 19, 2012 08:42AM

HOA MGR Wrote:
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> Gordy, she was dumped, not bumped.
>
> You're so silly.
>
> we am real


Wonder where you were scott back in 89? You are known to have bouts of extreme paranoid mental breakdowns.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Shocking ()
Date: October 19, 2012 09:36AM

This is the first time I have even heard about this.

I was away for my first year of college when this happened, but I can't believe I have never heard about this before. This really gives me chills, seeing her picture just makes me sad and bewildered. She reminds me of many girls I went to school with. I can't imagine what it would be like if this had happened to someone I knew.

I'm glad someone is bumping this thread from time to time. This is the first time I heard about it, so there are probably more than a few people who could have been passing by that night but have no idea anything so tragic ever happened. Maybe someday the right person will see this thread and remember seeing a person or a vehicle, and the killer can be identified.

It's shameful that this wasn't given more attention at the time.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: rose hill ()
Date: October 19, 2012 03:34PM

did the police ever check her car to determine what the car trouble was? could someone have tampered with her car and followed her, waiting for it to break down?

regarding the idea of the killer being a homeless person that lived in the woods there, i would hope a police search would have turned up evidence of a camp. in the fall, when the leaves start to drop you can see some of these camps when coming off 95 onto dale blvd., so no doubt they exist.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Ivy Bigbee ()
Date: October 21, 2012 11:33AM

Very sad story.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: MaryBellett ()
Date: October 21, 2012 06:31PM

She ran out of gas. Her gas gauge didn't work on the VW.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Two Cents ()
Date: October 28, 2012 08:24AM

MaryBellett Wrote:
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> She ran out of gas. Her gas gauge didn't work on
> the VW.

Really? What else can you remember about her and what happened?

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Crime Show Fan ()
Date: October 28, 2012 08:50AM

rose hill Wrote:
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> did the police ever check her car to determine
> what the car trouble was? could someone have
> tampered with her car and followed her, waiting
> for it to break down?


Sounds like something you'd see in the cold open of a crime drama. Watching too many crime shows on TV?


> they exist.

Aliens? Shape-shifters? Vampires?

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"Old"ington!
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: October 28, 2012 09:01AM

Ok, so all this went down where the Parkway hits 95 - I went by there the other day and it's AMAZING how much sh*t has changed around there - not just the building growth and development, but entire roadways are realigned and head off in different directions than they used to.

Anybody remember how Backlick used to go across 95?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/2012 09:02AM by Gordon Blvd.

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Re: "Old"ington!
Posted by: Two Cents ()
Date: October 28, 2012 09:33AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> Ok, so all this went down where the Parkway hits
> 95 - I went by there the other day and it's
> AMAZING how much sh*t has changed around there -
> not just the building growth and development, but
> entire roadways are realigned and head off in
> different directions than they used to.
>
> Anybody remember how Backlick used to go across
> 95?

Yes, just like it is in the picture. I believe its been the same since the late 80's when this murder took place.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: October 29, 2012 07:08AM

Two Cents,

I remember so much about Amy, from the day she was born to the day she died. I am Amy's aunt.

"Old" ington

You are right. Backlick did go across 95 and we believe she was heading for the gas station on Backlick near the top of the ramp. The only businesses around that area at that time were the Newington motel and an Exxon station.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: March 01, 2013 07:32AM

Twenty four years ago this month was the last time I saw my niece Amy alive and that was on her 18th birthday. Thirteen days later she was murdered and her killer has never been caught. They have suspects but I am given many reasons as to why nothing has been done to check them out. Budget, time, other cases, etc. I think we have waited long enough and it's time for Fairfax County to put Amy first for a change.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: March 01, 2013 07:40AM

DITTO

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: March 01, 2013 12:01PM

Mary Bellett Wrote:
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> Twenty four years ago this month was the last time
> I saw my niece Amy alive and that was on her 18th
> birthday. Thirteen days later she was murdered
> and her killer has never been caught. They have
> suspects but I am given many reasons as to why
> nothing has been done to check them out. Budget,
> time, other cases, etc. I think we have waited
> long enough and it's time for Fairfax County to
> put Amy first for a change.


The police have suspects? Really? Who would these suspects be? How about there is no evidence to link these "suspects" to the crime? I am sorry for your familys not getting the closure they should but...posts like yours really does not help.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: gobackunderyourbridge ()
Date: March 01, 2013 02:18PM

to "Really?"

Go back under your bridge & don't post disgustingly ignorant comments towards a grieving family. As a parent, sibling, daughter I would fight on a daily basis until the day I died to find my loved ones killer.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: March 01, 2013 06:55PM

gobackunderyourbridge Wrote:
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> to "Really?"
>
> Go back under your bridge & don't post
> disgustingly ignorant comments towards a grieving
> family. As a parent, sibling, daughter I would
> fight on a daily basis until the day I died to
> find my loved ones killer.


How about you go fuck yourself. Read what was written prior to my post.The family member stated the police have suspects but basicly are not doing anything about it. I asked who these suspects are and what evidence there is or more like the lack of evidence to link anybody to it. Then you need to read what I said in the middle of my post.

But how many post are on here from family members or friends claiming they have suspects or evidence but the police won't do anything. Or how many family or friends claimed a suicide was really a murder the police screwed up? An no I am not saying this case was a suicide.

If the police had any evidence that linked to any suspects I'm sure the cops would have done something with it by now instead of telling the family..sorry we have a budget issue...really...budget issues??? The police have gone anywhere to find and bring people back for trial.

BUT

My point was coming here to post the police have evidence or suspects but won't do anything to solve the case is crap. If the family has knowledge of suspects or evidence then lets hear what they have. Maybe us trolls here can solve it for them. We have all watched CSI so we know what we are doing.

And to close my rant..like I stated in my post above...I wish the shit bag would be found. The family does deserve closure.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: March 01, 2013 07:01PM

I'll ditto that as well..........

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: March 01, 2013 07:02PM

you know, it's funny - BOTH of you want the same thing. Stop arguing about the little stuff and lets ALL just agree that we ALL want her killer found and brought to justice.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: March 01, 2013 10:44PM

The family knows more then you know or will ever know. We talk to the detectives and you watch CSI? This is not a TV show this is our lives. Yes they have suspects, I wouldn't say that just to stir up trouble. My husband is a retired officer from Fairfax County. I have spoken with the current detective handling Amy's case. He has just recently taken the case over so has a lot to catch up on but I had been promised by a previous detective that a man would be investigated and DNA taken. That detective retired suddenly when he was offered a job he couldn't say no to and he retired about 6 months before he had planned. I currently work for a search and rescue organization that also works cold cases. They solved 209 cases last year and I was a private investigator for 10 years. It would only cause havoc to give out the name of anyone suspected in any case until charges are placed. The detectives have all the names and we have been promised they will be checked out, the question is when.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Oh Really? ()
Date: March 03, 2013 03:57PM

Mary Bellett Wrote:
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> The family knows more then you know or will ever
> know. We talk to the detectives and you watch
> CSI? This is not a TV show this is our lives. Yes
> they have suspects, I wouldn't say that just to
> stir up trouble. My husband is a retired officer
> from Fairfax County. I have spoken with the
> current detective handling Amy's case. He has
> just recently taken the case over so has a lot to
> catch up on but I had been promised by a previous
> detective that a man would be investigated and DNA
> taken. That detective retired suddenly when he
> was offered a job he couldn't say no to and he
> retired about 6 months before he had planned. I
> currently work for a search and rescue
> organization that also works cold cases. They
> solved 209 cases last year and I was a private
> investigator for 10 years. It would only cause
> havoc to give out the name of anyone suspected in
> any case until charges are placed. The detectives
> have all the names and we have been promised they
> will be checked out, the question is when.

I think to the answer, "When" is when "Hell freezes over". This murder happened back in 1989, how much longer does the family have to wait shithead? They pay taxes and deserve justice. No more waiting, that fat ass detective needs to waddle down to the file room and do the job he's paid for. They are entirely too relaxed in that office.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Hayfield ()
Date: March 05, 2013 01:57PM

Hi Mary,

My Dad was friends with Mark and was a FFX County fireman. Amy and I used to play together when we were younger. I remember this case like it happened yesterday, and yes, Newington back in '89 was not a super safe place to be. Amy would have known that too, so it was truly an emergency for her to leave the safety of her car to find help.

My Dad told me a lot about the case and how you and Sue found Amy and the condition of her body. To this day, it still upsets him to talk about it. Amy and I were the exact same age, and her death really changed my cavalier "nothing could ever happen to me" attitude. I hope and pray that they catch the SOB that did this to her and give you and your family the peace and closure you need.

Michele A.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Herb Cohen ()
Date: March 05, 2013 03:14PM

As others have said on this thread, I hope the authorities periodically run the DNA that was found at the scene through the national database. That's the only way I belive the case will be solved. This probably wasn't the first or the last time the killer committed a horific crime like this. DNA is solving crimes every day in this country.

I feel terrible for the family. That poor girl didn't deserve to die like that and I hope they catch the monster that did it. What a sad story.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: March 05, 2013 04:08PM

Hayfield Wrote:
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> Hi Mary,
>
> My Dad was friends with Mark and was a FFX County
> fireman. Amy and I used to play together when we
> were younger. I remember this case like it
> happened yesterday, and yes, Newington back in '89
> was not a super safe place to be. Amy would have
> known that too, so it was truly an emergency for
> her to leave the safety of her car to find help.
>
>
> My Dad told me a lot about the case and how you
> and Sue found Amy and the condition of her body.
> To this day, it still upsets him to talk about it.
> Amy and I were the exact same age, and her death
> really changed my cavalier "nothing could ever
> happen to me" attitude. I hope and pray that they
> catch the SOB that did this to her and give you
> and your family the peace and closure you need.
>
> Michele A.


Thank you Michele,

I believe we have met but I'm not sure. Our family does appreciate you and your family's support. Some people just think I am an overprotective nut case when I tell them these things can happen to them, I'm glad you understand it. It can happen to anyone.

Mary

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: March 05, 2013 04:32PM

Herb Cohen Wrote:
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> As others have said on this thread, I hope the
> authorities periodically run the DNA that was
> found at the scene through the national database.
> That's the only way I belive the case will be
> solved. This probably wasn't the first or the
> last time the killer committed a horific crime
> like this. DNA is solving crimes every day in
> this country.
>
> I feel terrible for the family. That poor girl
> didn't deserve to die like that and I hope they
> catch the monster that did it. What a sad story.

The DNA tests that were done back in 1989 were totally different then even the DNA tests done a few years later and can't be compared to each other. From what I have been told there is still one lab that does the test that was done for Amy but you need a fresh sample from a suspect to run it. Also, back in 1989 it took massive amounts of any substance to run DNA and they didn't have the ability to reproduce it. With new techinques coming out all the time to discover DNA we are hoping they will find more and be able to run an up to date test to run in CODIS. I am told they are working on it but I am told a lot.....

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Herb Cohen ()
Date: March 06, 2013 05:24PM

Mary Bellett Wrote:
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> Herb Cohen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As others have said on this thread, I hope the
> > authorities periodically run the DNA that was
> > found at the scene through the national
> database.
> > That's the only way I belive the case will be
> > solved. This probably wasn't the first or the
> > last time the killer committed a horific crime
> > like this. DNA is solving crimes every day in
> > this country.
> >
> > I feel terrible for the family. That poor girl
> > didn't deserve to die like that and I hope they
> > catch the monster that did it. What a sad
> story.
>
> The DNA tests that were done back in 1989 were
> totally different then even the DNA tests done a
> few years later and can't be compared to each
> other. From what I have been told there is still
> one lab that does the test that was done for Amy
> but you need a fresh sample from a suspect to run
> it. Also, back in 1989 it took massive amounts of
> any substance to run DNA and they didn't have the
> ability to reproduce it. With new techinques
> coming out all the time to discover DNA we are
> hoping they will find more and be able to run an
> up to date test to run in CODIS. I am told they
> are working on it but I am told a lot.....


I see. Well, I hope they are able to run a modern DNA test soon. Improvements will keep coming in that field and hopefully they'll be able to solve this case. I am very sorry for your loss.

A friend of mine from elementary school was kidnapped and killed so I know firsthand what this type of crime can do a community. There are some horrible people on this earth.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: March 06, 2013 07:36PM

Herb Cohen Wrote:
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> A friend of mine from elementary school was
> kidnapped and killed so I know firsthand what this
> type of crime can do a community. There are some
> horrible people on this earth.


I am SO sorry that you and all of your friend's other friends and family had to go through something like this. I hope whoever did this was caught and punished.

Thank you for your support on this forum. As I am sure you know there is no such thing as closure but we do ask for justice.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Herb Cohen ()
Date: March 07, 2013 11:37AM

Thank you Mary.

My friend's killer was caught, convicted, sentenced to death and was electocuted in Florida in 1984.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: March 29, 2013 07:02AM

It's been TWENTY FOUR YEARS today Fairfax! Such a sad, sad day.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: March 29, 2013 08:02AM

prayers four you and yr fam.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Herb Cohen ()
Date: March 29, 2013 09:05AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> prayers four you and yr fam.


+1

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Enrico Palazzo ()
Date: March 29, 2013 11:12AM

Herb Cohen Wrote:
> My friend's killer was caught, convicted,
> sentenced to death and was electocuted in Florida
> in 1984.

Had to be this guy...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Frederick_Goode_III

bump

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: March 30, 2013 07:01PM

bump

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Now and Then ()
Date: April 02, 2013 08:20AM

Mary Bellett Wrote:
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> It's been TWENTY FOUR YEARS today Fairfax! Such a
> sad, sad day.


So very sorry for your loss. Hope they catch this killer!

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 28, 2013 02:58PM

bump

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: debbie ()
Date: August 14, 2013 12:33AM

with recent events happening down here, near nelson county...i cant help but pray for justice for all the women that have been tragically taken from us. monsters indeed...i knew mark and sue when i lived in fredericksburg, i was married to one of their friends, and quickly came to enjoy their friendship too.i think about you all often, and miss seeing them at the animal hospital i worked for.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: anonymous89 ()
Date: December 18, 2013 12:51PM

This post is attn to Mary B:
I was in my freshman year of college in 88-89 and had hung out one night prior to the X-mas break with a friend and two girls he introduced me to. Some time later there was a "story" (it may have been just that) about about one of the two girls being killed off of some highway down in VA. There was some talk of the other girl knowing who did it so, I had never even assumed it wasn't solved, if there was even any truth to it.

Recently out of curiosity I tried to look up any info about this on the net and cannot find anything about it but, kept finding info about this case.

Now time has hazed the memory a bit but I do remember the girl's name was something like Mary, Jenni or maybe even Amy, all I remember was the name ended with an "i" or a "y". She was a slight petite little girl about our age at the time (like 18-19ish) with dark hair, not unlike the photo however the girl I remember had a much different hair style at the time. Her hair was very short (buzz-cut short) if you remember her having hair like this in the months prior to her death I may know something. If not, it may just after-all have been stories I heard all those years ago, people do talk.

If that's the case I whole-heartedly apologize for taking up your time and wish you most sincerely only the best of luck finding closure in this matter. I'll check back periodically for any response

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Here is Mary's email address... ()
Date: December 18, 2013 01:29PM

anonymous89 Wrote:
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> This post is attn to Mary B:
> I was in my freshman year of college in 88-89 and
> had hung out one night prior to the X-mas break
> with a friend and two girls he introduced me to.
> Some time later there was a "story" (it may have
> been just that) about about one of the two girls
> being killed off of some highway down in VA. There
> was some talk of the other girl knowing who did
> it so, I had never even assumed it wasn't solved,
> if there was even any truth to it.
>
> Recently out of curiosity I tried to look up any
> info about this on the net and cannot find
> anything about it but, kept finding info about
> this case.
>
> Now time has hazed the memory a bit but I do
> remember the girl's name was something like Mary,
> Jenni or maybe even Amy, all I remember was the
> name ended with an "i" or a "y". She was a slight
> petite little girl about our age at the time (like
> 18-19ish) with dark hair, not unlike the photo
> however the girl I remember had a much different
> hair style at the time. Her hair was very short
> (buzz-cut short) if you remember her having hair
> like this in the months prior to her death I may
> know something. If not, it may just after-all have
> been stories I heard all those years ago, people
> do talk.
>
> If that's the case I whole-heartedly apologize for
> taking up your time and wish you most sincerely
> only the best of luck finding closure in this
> matter. I'll check back periodically for any
> response

Mary can be reached by email at Bellett777@wmconnect.com

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Amy Baker's ghost ()
Date: December 18, 2013 01:53PM

Thank you Aunt Mary for your continued support. I appreciate everyone's effort to find my killer.

Merry Christmas!!!!

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: December 22, 2013 05:47PM

That is just cruel!

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: December 22, 2013 05:58PM

Amy's hair was shorter then the picture that is on the poster but it was not a buzz cut. Thank you for trying to help.

Mary


Here is Mary's email address... Wrote:
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> anonymous89 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This post is attn to Mary B:
> > I was in my freshman year of college in 88-89
> and
> > had hung out one night prior to the X-mas break
> > with a friend and two girls he introduced me
> to.
> > Some time later there was a "story" (it may
> have
> > been just that) about about one of the two
> girls
> > being killed off of some highway down in VA.
> There
> > was some talk of the other girl knowing who
> did
> > it so, I had never even assumed it wasn't
> solved,
> > if there was even any truth to it.
> >
> > Recently out of curiosity I tried to look up
> any
> > info about this on the net and cannot find
> > anything about it but, kept finding info about
> > this case.
> >
> > Now time has hazed the memory a bit but I do
> > remember the girl's name was something like
> Mary,
> > Jenni or maybe even Amy, all I remember was the
> > name ended with an "i" or a "y". She was a
> slight
> > petite little girl about our age at the time
> (like
> > 18-19ish) with dark hair, not unlike the photo
> > however the girl I remember had a much
> different
> > hair style at the time. Her hair was very short
> > (buzz-cut short) if you remember her having
> hair
> > like this in the months prior to her death I
> may
> > know something. If not, it may just after-all
> have
> > been stories I heard all those years ago,
> people
> > do talk.
> >
> > If that's the case I whole-heartedly apologize
> for
> > taking up your time and wish you most sincerely
> > only the best of luck finding closure in this
> > matter. I'll check back periodically for any
> > response
>
> Mary can be reached by email at
> Bellett777@wmconnect.com

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: vJkv6 ()
Date: December 22, 2013 06:20PM

Geez this summer I totalled my car and caused a huge backup on I-95 right at that offramp. Had no idea someone was murdered there.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: asdfadsfsdfaf ()
Date: December 26, 2013 04:57AM

vJkv6 Wrote:
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> Geez this summer I totalled my car and caused a
> huge backup on I-95 right at that offramp. Had no
> idea someone was murdered there.

It's an eerie place. I broke down there once as well and it felt very, very weird.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: eloy ()
Date: February 24, 2014 07:35AM


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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: mjdt9 ()
Date: February 24, 2014 07:37AM

eloy Wrote:
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> http://cybwarsatwarhq.blogspot.com/2010/11/amy-bak
> er-case-mystery-girl-he-has-been.html?m=1
>
> I vote for investigating the nut who wrote the
> blog above

Wow, you're not kidding. What a crazy rant!

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: VuGPP ()
Date: February 24, 2014 10:12PM

fuckoff

area was as nice as amy looks. and sprinfield mall wasn't threat to go to, in 1989

I've worked in that area for the past 7 years. Nice to know it's always been a complete ghetto, even back then.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: DwKxh ()
Date: February 24, 2014 10:41PM

i remember that face well but can't remember if i met her in HS years or saw it all on tv. so many girls were like amy back then. all beautiful and great dates and great to talk to and know.

what HS did she go to ?

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was the ramp icy that night ? i heard a story about an altercation on the same ramp i think. but it was road rage after a caused crash.

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obviously you check the gas station attendant. do a beat of asking around the area the days following looking for leads. ask the public if anyone saw two cars pulled over.

i have no idea why you think she was on her way to exxon rather than someone stopped "to help her", or on her way back from exxon

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: February 25, 2014 06:17AM

No, the ramp was not icy that night, in fact it was very warm for a March night, almost like spring. We do know she made it to the top of the ramp and everyone was checked out that worked close to the area that night. She never made it to the Exxon if she had she would have made a phone call for help and a call was never made. She had relatives that drove tow trucks she would have called. Not the first time she had broke down but in a different car, she knew who to call.

She went to Falls Church High School and Jeb Stuart High School.



DwKxh Wrote:

>
> ----------------------------------
> was the ramp icy that night ? i heard a story
> about an altercation on the same ramp i think.
> but it was road rage after a caused crash.
>
> -----------------------------
> obviously you check the gas station attendant. do
> a beat of asking around the area the days
> following looking for leads. ask the public if
> anyone saw two cars pulled over.
>
> i have no idea why you think she was on her way to
> exxon rather than someone stopped "to help her",
> or on her way back from exxon

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: March 07, 2014 05:04AM


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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: ***Updated*** ()
Date: March 07, 2014 07:56AM

Twenty-five-year-old murder still unsolved
After 25 years, Amy Baker’s family still hopes to find their daughter’s killer
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20140306/NEWS/140309602/1117/twenty-five-year-old-murder-still-unsolved&template=fairfaxTimes

On March 29, 1989, Sue Baker had a premonition that something was wrong.

It was 11 p.m. and her daughter Amy — who had just turned 18 less than two weeks earlier — had still not returned home.

“It was Easter week and she was coming back from visiting my sister and some of her friends in Falls Church,” she said. “She left there at 8:30 p.m. and it was not that long a drive.”

The Bakers had themselves moved only months before from Falls Church to the small community of Hartwood in Stafford County. “We wanted a larger home with some land, and to get away from the urban mess in Fairfax County,” said Amy’s father, Mark.

At both Falls Church and J.E.B. Stuart high schools, Amy had been known as an artist and an athlete.

She played field hockey, had a strong interest in photography, and had plans to attend art school in Savannah, Ga.

Sue Baker said that as she worried that fateful night, she tried to tell herself that her daughter was now 18 and that as a mother she had to start thinking of her that way, and not be so overly protective.

But when Amy failed to come home by 6 a.m., she said she knew something was terribly wrong.

“I started calling everyone,” she said. “I called hospitals, towing companies, relatives, and the police.”

Baker found out that her daughter’s car — a baby blue 1970 Volkswagen Beetle — had been discovered by the Virginia State Police with its flashers blinking sometime around 10 p.m. from the southbound side of Interstate 95 near Backlick Road in Springfield. It had been been considered abandoned and was subsequently towed away.

“I was beside myself, and I was trying to get the Fairfax County police to do something,” she said. “But because Amy was 18, they considered her an adult and proceeded accordingly. They asked us if she might be running away from something, and whether she might have abandoned her car. They later told us they had sent a patrol car to drive along the shoulder where her car had been, and that a helicopter had also taken a look, but no one saw anything suspicious.”

About 48 hours later — on Good Friday — Sue Baker and her sister-in-law Mary Bellett decided they would search the area themselves.

“A police officer was supposed to meet us at noon that day, but a suicide or something had called them away and no one ever showed up. We waited about 45 minutes and decided to just walk the area ourselves,” Baker said.

Less than 45 minutes later, the two women’s worst fears were confirmed.

“We were walking around inside the clover-leaf area of the exit ramp when I saw some bright colors among all the brown leaves and twigs,” said Bellett. “I saw blue and white — and then I saw Amy. I saw her, but my brain didn’t register what I was seeing until Sue put her hand on my shoulder and screamed. That sort of brought me back to reality.”

Unlike her sister-in-law, Sue Baker said she was immediately cognizant of the horror she was witnessing.

“I knew right away what I was seeing,” she said. “It was my daughter. She was covered in leaves, but I saw the new tennis shoes she had just gotten for her 18th birthday sticking out — and I knew. It was my daughter.”

Bellet said that in addition to the wave of sadness that washed over her, she also felt instant fear.

“I remember thinking, oh my God, the killer may still be in here with us,” she said.

The two women flagged down a passing ambulance, and within 20 minutes the area was cordoned off as a crime scene.

Police said Amy Baker’s vehicle had run out of gas and that she had taken the keys and some change and had likely tried to walk up the exit ramp to go to a nearby Exxon gas station when she was abducted, raped and then strangled to death.

“They found change in the pocket of her khaki shorts, and a coroner’s report estimated that it all happened within 30 minutes to an hour of when she left her car,” Baker said.

Although DNA evidence was taken, and suspects were tested over the years, there was never a positive match.

Subsequently, Amy’s rapist and killer has never been identified.

Fairfax County Police did not immediately return phone calls and emails seeking information on the case, but Mark Baker said he still hears from them from time to time.

“It’s considered a cold case, and we mostly hear when someone new gets transferred onto it, or off of it,” he said. “Sometimes we also hear from them on the anniversary of her death. We still hope for a DNA match as the databases become more populated. That hope is all we have.”

Even with that hope, the quarter of a century that has passed by since Amy’s death has done very little to quell the family’s heartbreak.

“Today, 25 years later, Sue and I can look at each other and still intensely feel the pain and the fear of that moment when we discovered Amy,” said Bellett.

Twenty-five years after Amy Baker was murdered near Backlick Road in Springfield, family members are still searching for clues that could bring her killer to justice.
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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Everette ()
Date: March 09, 2014 05:06PM

NEARLY 25 years later, Sue Baker can picture her daughter’s body in the woods off Interstate 95 as if it were yesterday. She found it there on March 31, 1989, about 36 hours after Amy disappeared when her car ran out of gas near Backlick Road, south of the notorious former “mixing bowl.”


Two weeks earlier, on March 16, Amy had turned 18, and that makes March a particularly difficult month for Mark and Sue Baker of Stafford County. Then again no month—no year—goes by easily for the parents of a child who was brutally murdered, and whose case has never been solved.


“It’s hard to imagine her at 43,” Mark Baker said recently. “I still think of her at the same age she was the day she left our house. You wonder how her life would have transpired.”

Amy’s parents believe that the fact she was 18, rather than a juvenile, may be why her disappearance wasn’t immediately treated as a crime by police.


Amy had spent the last days of her life in Falls Church visiting her aunt, Mary Bellett. On Wednesday evening, March 29, she left for home after the rush hour traffic subsided. The powder-blue 1970 Volkswagen Beetle she was driving wasn’t perfect, but it was the first car she’d owned and it gave her the freedom she wanted, her parents recalled.


One of the issues was the unreliable gas gauge, and en route to her parents’ Stafford County home, the car ran out of gas and she pulled over on the shoulder of the Interstate. It was probably about 10 p.m. Having noted the abandoned vehicle over the course of the evening, a Virginia state trooper radioed to have it towed to an impound lot. That was at about 2:45 a.m.


Sue Baker awoke Thursday morning to realize Amy hadn’t arrived home, and immediately thought something terrible had happened. She called Bellett, her sister-in-law, to confirm Amy had left the night before. She then called the state police and learned that a car matching the description of Amy’s had been towed.


At the impound lot, Sue found Amy’s purse, billfold and backpack inside the car. The absence of her keys remains a mystery to this day. The Bakers think that the items left behind in the car should have suggested to police that a crime had been committed. After all, what woman leaves her disabled car without taking her purse and ID?


Sue Baker and Bellett put together a missing person poster and spent the rest of Thursday posting and distributing it in the Newington area.


By Friday morning, the women decided to be pro-active. They asked Fairfax police to have an officer meet them where the car had been abandoned. They waited, but the officer didn’t show. Impatient, they set off into the woods themselves.


A half-hour later, Sue Baker came upon Amy’s body, partly covered in leaves. An autopsy determined she had been sexually assaulted and strangled.


Investigators admit this is one of the most difficult crimes to solve—an opportunistic psychopath who sees his chance and then vanishes once the deed is done. This was no stalker, no careful planner.


Suspects and leads have been few, and all have led either to heartbreak or nowhere at all. One suspect was cleared when the DNA didn’t match. Another turned out to be in jail elsewhere at the time.


DOING WHAT THEY CAN


I sat down with Mark and Sue Baker recently for the third time in the past 18 years to talk with them about their loss and how life goes on under such circumstances. It can’t be easy, but they welcome the opportunity to talk about Amy and get her name and the details of the case out there for people to see.


Sue Baker came to work in The Free Lance–Star’s circulation department about 15 years ago, and our paths cross on occasion. We exchange hellos but I can see in her eyes where her thoughts immediately go. The last thing I want to do is to add to her anguish, but then I know her thoughts are never far from Amy anyway. She’s told me so.


Suppose there is a break in the case, however remote the chance?


“Her dad and I never stop hoping. But we want that more for Amy at this point than we do for ourselves,” she said. “There is no closure when you lose someone like that.”


Sue said it’s nice to know Amy isn’t forgotten. Amy’s friends post thoughts on Sue’s Facebook page. When the Bakers visit Amy’s grave, they still find remembrances left there around her birthday and at Christmas.


It’s especially sad for the Bakers when there is news about a child reported missing because they can identify with a family’s plight.


“When something like this happens, we know what they’re going through,” she said.


COLD CASE UNIT


Fairfax police Det. John Farrell is the cold case officer in charge of Amy’s case, and he acknowledges the frustration a case such as this brings to the family and to police. He would not speak specifically about this case, in particular about the condition or availability of DNA evidence that was recovered from the victim 25 years ago.


“At this point we can hope that someone reaches out about the case,” he said, and a story like this one could help if the right eyes come across it. “Relationships change—maybe a former girlfriend remembers someone whose behavior changed at the time or took a strong interest in the case. Maybe it will generate leads.”


A reward of $26,000 is offered for information leading to an arrest and indictment.

Anyone with information is asked to contact Fairfax Crime Solvers by phone at 866/411-TIPS (8477), email at fairfax crimesolvers.org or text TIP187 plus your message to CRIMES (274637). Callers never have to give their names or appear in court.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Chasing your tale ()
Date: March 09, 2014 07:41PM

The more and more I think about it, the more I think this never going to go anywhere like this. Has anyone ever talked to a psychic? If not, then nows the time.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: mjm ()
Date: March 10, 2014 12:32PM

I was an acquaintance of Amy though friends of mine in 1988-1989. Her tragic death has always saddened me. A month ago, I saw a news report that they have named a person of interest in the abduction of the Lyon sisters in Montgomery County. In a Washington Post article last month, it mentioned this person traveled the east coast from the 70s-90s. For some reason, it struck me that perhaps this person could be of interest in Amy's case. According to the timeline in the Washington Post, this person was in South Caroline during the late 80s, in the early 90s he was apparently listed as being in the Woodbridge area. I hope the police in Fairfax are looking into any of all possibilities of these cases being related. My heart goes out to you and your family.

http://www.fbi.gov/baltimore/press-releases/2014/person-of-interest-named-in-kidnapping-of-lyon-sisters-others-victims-sought

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mike89 ()
Date: March 10, 2014 12:32PM

Curious if anybody ever looked into Edwin Earl (prisoner 1066640 Buckingham Correctional Facility, according to prisoner lookup). Both he and Amy were in the same English class in '86 or '87 at FCHS (hard to remember if it was 9th or 10th grade--I was in the same class but I had that same teacher another year for Psychology). Eddie was convicted of violently raping a 14 year old girl a year or so after graduation, and he and Amy knew each other at least somewhat since they had at least that class in common.

Just a thought.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: concerned parents ()
Date: March 12, 2014 07:49AM

Mike89 Wrote:
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> Curious if anybody ever looked into Edwin Earl
> (prisoner 1066640 Buckingham Correctional
> Facility, according to prisoner lookup). Both he
> and Amy were in the same English class in '86 or
> '87 at FCHS (hard to remember if it was 9th or
> 10th grade--I was in the same class but I had that
> same teacher another year for Psychology). Eddie
> was convicted of violently raping a 14 year old
> girl a year or so after graduation, and he and Amy
> knew each other at least somewhat since they had
> at least that class in common.
>
> Just a thought.

Interesting, can you post a picture of him? (Then and now?) and the information on his profile from Buckingham Correctional please?

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mike89 ()
Date: March 15, 2014 04:49PM

I don't have a picture, but it's very easy to get one out of the National Sex Offender Registry. He also should be in the FCHS yearbooks from 86 to 89.

www.nsopr.gov

Search in Virginia for Edwin A. Earl.

A search of old Washington Post and Fairfax Journal articles might also bring up some photos. I think his later crime was committed in '90 or '91.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: March 16, 2014 07:15PM

Sunday - 3/16/2014, 5:54pm ET
By Kathy Stewart

More Reports
Amy Baker (Courtesy Fairfax County Police)
Fairfax County Crime Solvers is still seeking the public's assistance identifying the person responsible for a homicide that occurred 25 years ago. Call 1-866-411-TIPS with information. (Courtesy Fairfax County Police)
Audio: Killer never found

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WASHINGTON -- For the parents of Amy Baker, March is always a difficult month. March 16 was their daughter's birthday, and March was when her life was taken in 1989.

It's been 25 years, and still no one has been charged in her murder.

Amy would have been 43 years old this year.

Just days after disappearing, Baker's body was found off of I-95 South in Springfield, Va. She was 18 when she was killed.

The unsolved case still haunts her parents, who live in Stafford, Va. Baker had been visiting her aunt in Falls Church, Va., when on the evening of March 29, 1989, she drove home but never made it to Stafford.

Instead, her car was found abandoned near Backlick Road by Virginia State Police.

Despite a $27,000 reward, the person who raped and killed Baker has not been identified or caught.

Anyone with information is being urged to call Fairfax County Crime Solvers at 1- 866-411-TIPS / 1-866-411-8477. You don't have to give your name and you don't have to appear in court. Go here for more information.

Follow @WTOP on Twitter and WTOP on Facebook.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: C4vMd ()
Date: March 17, 2014 11:42AM

Mike89 Wrote:
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> I don't have a picture, but it's very easy to get
> one out of the National Sex Offender Registry. He
> also should be in the FCHS yearbooks from 86 to
> 89.
>
> www.nsopr.gov
>
> Search in Virginia for Edwin A. Earl.
>
> A search of old Washington Post and Fairfax
> Journal articles might also bring up some photos.
> I think his later crime was committed in '90 or
> '91.

I couldn't find anything on this. Can you find and post it?

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker ()
Date: March 18, 2014 07:12AM

25 years later, still no charges in teen's death
http://www.wtop.com/149/3583461/25-years-later-still-no-charges-in-teens-death

WASHINGTON -- For the parents of Amy Baker, March is always a difficult month. March 16 was their daughter's birthday, and March was when her life was taken in 1989.

It's been 25 years, and still no one has been charged in her murder.

Amy would have been 43 years old this year.

Just days after disappearing, Baker's body was found off of I-95 South in Springfield, Va. She was 18 when she was killed.

The unsolved case still haunts her parents, who live in Stafford, Va. Baker had been visiting her aunt in Falls Church, Va., when on the evening of March 29, 1989, she drove home but never made it to Stafford.

Instead, her car was found abandoned near Backlick Road by Virginia State Police.

Despite a $27,000 reward, the person who raped and killed Baker has not been identified or caught.

Anyone with information is being urged to call Fairfax County Crime Solvers at 1- 866-411-TIPS / 1-866-411-8477. You don't have to give your name and you don't have to appear in court. Go here for more information.

Fairfax County Crime Solvers is still seeking the public's assistance identifying the person responsible for a homicide that occurred 25 years ago. Call 1-866-411-TIPS with information. (Courtesy Fairfax County Police)
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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker ()
Date: March 18, 2014 07:13AM

Go here to listen to the audio:

Audio: Killer never found
http://media.dev-cms.com/wtop/29/2933/293341.mp3

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: March 18, 2014 08:47AM

Here is his Mugshot.
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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: M89 ()
Date: March 19, 2014 02:16PM

That's him.

The crime for which he was convicted doesn't seem too similar (I always figured Amy's murder was probably committed by some random traveler along I-95), but, I don't know... it occurred to me all these years later that maybe it's relevant. I also always figured if there was a connection between the two the FCPD would have found it... but after reading this thread and learning about all the problems with the investigation, I'm no longer so sure. I had a few classes with Amy and I had a few with him and I had at least one class with both at once (if I remember correctly). I don't recall ever seeing them speak or interact.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: kYG7M ()
Date: March 19, 2014 10:12PM

i remember when that was in the news and papers.

my parents kept asking if it was me. insinuating it might be. talking about death and suicide.

ahh the days :)

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: cjUhD ()
Date: March 20, 2014 07:03AM

M89 Wrote:
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> That's him.
>
> The crime for which he was convicted doesn't seem
> too similar (I always figured Amy's murder was
> probably committed by some random traveler along
> I-95), but, I don't know... it occurred to me all
> these years later that maybe it's relevant. I
> also always figured if there was a connection
> between the two the FCPD would have found it...
> but after reading this thread and learning about
> all the problems with the investigation, I'm no
> longer so sure. I had a few classes with Amy and
> I had a few with him and I had at least one class
> with both at once (if I remember correctly). I
> don't recall ever seeing them speak or interact.

I think this bears further looking. Maybe that's why it looked so random. Maybe it wasn't so random at all?

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Who killed Amy Baker?
Posted by: Twenty-five years ago ()
Date: March 30, 2014 03:44PM

Who killed Amy Baker?
http://www.insidenova.com/news/crime_police/who-killed-amy-baker/article_75d68bd8-b7a8-11e3-8782-0019bb2963f4.html

Twenty-five years ago tonight, someone murdered Amy Baker.

Police believe that the 18-year-old, who had just moved with her family from Falls Church to Stafford County, ran out of gas the night of March 29, 1989 on her way home from visiting an aunt.

Amy pulled her blue Volkswagen Beetle to the shoulder of Interstate 95 near Backlick Road in Springfield, put on the blinkers and walked up the exit toward an Exxon station. Along the way, she encountered a killer.

She was sexually assaulted, strangled and left dead in the woods.

Two days later, her mother and aunt, searching near where her car was abandoned, found Amy’s body, partially covered in leaves. A Fairfax police detective was supposed to meet them there, but hadn’t showed.

More than two decades later, even with DNA available in the case, the killer still hasn’t been found.

The anniversary is especially heart breaking for Amy’s parents, Mark and Sue Baker.

“We are living through the next hour or two, knowing where she was, with no help. Please, if you know anything...it is not too late and she deserves this,” Sue Baker said Saturday night.

There is a $27,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and indictment in Amy’s murder -- $1,000 through Crime Solvers and $26,000 in private funds.

Anyone with information is asked to contact Crime Solvers by phone at 1-866-411-TIPS(8477), e-mail at www.fairfaxcrimesolvers.org or text “TIP187” plus your message to CRIMES(274637).
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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: FCHS ()
Date: January 30, 2015 04:50PM

I was a classmate of Amy's and friend of hers, her brother and your son @Mary Bellet. The fact that this case has remained unsolved and largely ignored from the very beginning is unacceptable and extremely sad. I live near a few other FCHS alum and I can tell you that Amy has never been forgotten.

& Mike89 I believe Eddie Earl was arrested a few years prior to Amy's death so would have been incarcerated at that time.

@eloy that blog you referenced is pretty disturbing, like reading a manifesto. Authro (Alex) is actually Thang who graduated in 88.

I found this thread after listening to the Serial podcast and it got me thinking about Amy's murder. Perhaps this is a story that they would take on for their next season and help get the police to really take a look. They are seeking suggestions so worth submitting the details to them. serialpodcast.org

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: February 02, 2015 08:47AM

Thank you for posting and never forgetting Amy. I doubt now that her case will ever be solved unless someone makes a confession. At this point I doubt the police will share anything they have with anyone but I will pass your suggestion on to them. Of course it will also have to go through Amy's parents.

She was so very loved and still so very missed.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Jimmy Womble ()
Date: February 03, 2015 09:01AM

Amy - Don't give up hope. I watch a lot of the crime shows and many old cases are solved with DNA. Hopefully the police have some DNA and will match it someday.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Jimmy Womble ()
Date: February 03, 2015 10:04AM

I read through this entire thread and see that DNA has been discussed before. I saw a crime show recently where they only had a very small amount of DNA. They now have a method of duplicating small amounts of DNA so they have enough DNA to test. Maybe this could be done?

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Enrico 2 lazy ()
Date: February 03, 2015 11:38AM

Jimmy Womble Wrote:
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> Amy - Don't give up hope. I watch a lot of the
> crime shows and many old cases are solved with
> DNA. Hopefully the police have some DNA and will
> match it someday.


I agree, I think the best chance here would be they come across matching DNA at some point. Sorry for loss Mary.

If only she had been carrying a little plastic tub of gasoline in the car :( so sad.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: sdfsdfdsff ()
Date: February 18, 2015 01:31AM

Bump for Amy Baker. Please does anyone know anything?

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: March 29, 2015 04:57AM

Twenty six years ago today and still no answers! I still hold out a little hope her killer will be caught but I know it probably will never happen.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: XtDcL ()
Date: March 29, 2015 05:44AM

I'm sorry for you and your family's loss :(

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: So Sorry ()
Date: March 29, 2015 02:27PM

This is awful and leaves me wishing there was something I could do to help the still grieving family. Perhaps there is some kind of advocate group that helps in cold cases like this and gets things started again- I will research.

I know these wounds dont really heal, but you have my sympathy.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Bobbijo ()
Date: August 15, 2015 11:10PM

She's always in my thoughts and prayers that you will get closer one day!

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: March 29, 2016 05:48AM

Twenty seven years today, Fairfax and still no answers.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Barbara ()
Date: April 06, 2016 09:21PM

I grew up with Amy and we were to graduate together. It was a tragic story. Amy's mom found her as they were searching the areas she happened to be the one who found her .

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: April 07, 2016 09:22AM

Barbara Wrote:
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> I grew up with Amy and we were to graduate
> together. It was a tragic story. Amy's mom found
> her as they were searching the areas she happened
> to be the one who found her .


I am Amy's aunt that was with her mom the day we found her. I understand they couldn't do anything to save Amy but they sure could've done something to save us from being the ones to find her.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: FFXRes ()
Date: April 07, 2016 09:46AM

To the Baker family, I hope that one day Amy's case is solved. Sounds like incompetence on the case of FFX County PD. If Amy was the family member of a political official, the case would have been solved by now, you know.

You're going to have to stay on top of FFX County PD to keep the case alive. Otherwise, the case file will go to the bottom of the pack.

Back in '89, cell phones were more expensive and so not as much used compared to today, which is a shame b/c having one at the time might have helped her.

I feel for the family.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: April 07, 2016 11:11AM

FFXRes Wrote:
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You're going to have to stay on top of FFX County
PD to keep the case alive. Otherwise, the case
file will go to the bottom of the pack.


I quit calling the detective because all I ever got when I called and asked him something was "Good Question, I will check on that and get back to you". Of course I never heard anything again. I have resigned myself to the fact that Amy's case will probably never be solved. At least not in my lifetime.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Class of '82 ()
Date: April 07, 2016 01:09PM

Anyone who would commit such a horrible crime is most likely a repeat offender. Also, most criminals are stupid and talk about their crimes. It might take a while, but I hope he slips up and gets arrested.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Sympathetic ()
Date: April 07, 2016 02:16PM

Mary Bellett Wrote:
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> Twenty seven years today, Fairfax and still no
> answers.


Sorry for your loss--without justice, peace is hard to find, I know.

I wonder if someone with a gift like Teresa Caputo (aka the Long Island Medium) could help your family (and the police). I am leery of con artists, but I believe there are a few people who can apprehend the spiritual world. I wish someone so gifted would offer to help in this case.

Or better yet: Is it too much to hope that her killer(s) would finally confess in order to give the family some resolution and to reconcile with God while still on earth?

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Enrico 2 lazy ()
Date: April 07, 2016 03:15PM

Have you submitted this story to one of the tru-tv (crime) shows or Dateline? Worth a shot as the exposure would skyrocket.

I agree with some of the thoughts here, if I was a betting man I would guess the person who did it is now dead.

I found it interesting they said her keys were never found. Did someone use a metal detector on that interstate loop?

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: April 08, 2016 05:02AM

Over the years we have tried to keep the story in public view as much as possible but there are so many similar stories where they have more information so Amy's story just isn't of too much interest to a major TV show.

I have heard conflicting stories about her keys but do know they were searched for by many people for a long time.

I have said many times that I thought whoever did this was either dead or in prison.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: April 08, 2016 05:14AM

Sorry for your loss--without justice, peace is
hard to find, I know.


That is what I would love to have, justice. Amy deserves that. I would do anything to accomplish that.

You do sound like you know and I am so sorry.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: mjm ()
Date: August 12, 2016 06:30PM

Have you used Facebook to generate any leads?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hours-can-facebook-help-solve-cold-cases-2/

There is also a page dedicated to promoting unsolved cold cases, crimes and missing persons https://www.facebook.com/unsolvedcoldcases/

More than one billion people are active on Facebook. More than 100 million people use Instagram every month.

Maybe considering using social media to generate a clue?

I am really sorry for your loss. Amy was an acquaintance of mine and I am sad that this case has never been solved.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: AK ()
Date: March 20, 2018 02:37PM

Bump...

Almost 29 years since I lost my sweet dear friend Amy...I still think of you often and pray this will be solved. Much love to your mom...she is such a nice woman and we still send Christmas cards to each other. The Fairfax police is/was a disgrace to this case....such a shame. I hope DNA will some day solve this.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: ASDFGH ()
Date: March 20, 2018 05:23PM

I am very sorry for the loss of your friend. I agree with the "enrico 2 lazy" above. If one of the many great crime shows on TV today would do a story on this case, it might help to solve it. The monster who did this has most likely committed other similar crimes.

DNA will get him if anything will!

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: jgljsda ()
Date: February 20, 2019 11:02PM

This is a far more informative thread. Sounds like the police were pretty incompetent from day one with this case.

https://patch.com/virginia/centreville/fairfax-county-cold-case-cops-come-clean-about-their-jobs

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Herb Cohen ()
Date: February 21, 2019 10:16AM

Police identified the Golden State Killer by using a public DNA database.

Hopefully there is enough DNA leftover in this case to submit it to this type of DNA database.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Chcjf ()
Date: February 21, 2019 10:38AM

One of the above articles claim there is DNA. Hopefully the Fairfax Cold Case squad can make right the screw ups of their predecessors.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Herman M. ()
Date: February 21, 2019 12:04PM

Perhaps detectives may take a look at what they did in California recently, since they have DNA.They caught the devil who had committed all those rapes and murders after all those years by submitting his DNA to one of those sites that searches ancestry.Probably wouldn't require a day's work.Then, maybe a a few months to sift through it.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: pmkjt ()
Date: February 21, 2019 04:05PM


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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: hfdhfdh ()
Date: March 31, 2019 09:33AM

Herman why are you starting a new thread each time about a 30 year old murder that no one here remembers? If you want to keep it in people's minds, just post to this thread. It has a lot more information.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Unit 8 ()
Date: April 02, 2019 04:47AM

It was the Clover Leaf killer. Clover leafs are only walked through every few years by surveyors. It's the perfect place to stash a body.

But they have his dna. One day they find him when he's in his 70's loling. Reminiscing about all the twats he has snuffed out.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: DetE ()
Date: April 02, 2019 10:20PM

Mary Bellet are you still here? Nothing from you in a couple years.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Mary Bellett ()
Date: April 03, 2019 07:26PM

Yes, I'm still around but I have had to just accept that Amy is gone. There will never be closure, only acceptance.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: DetE ()
Date: April 04, 2019 04:46PM

I’m sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine what you have been going through. Did the police look at the Hunter Motel occupants that night? Some seedy people used to stay there. Have the police tried familial DNA? Parabon Nanolabs in Reston is doing some remarkable things with DNA. They have DNA from the Zodiac killings and are working on that. Don’t give up hope that this bastard will be caught.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Amy Baker's Mom ()
Date: April 24, 2019 08:36AM

hfdhfdh :

I can assure you Amy's family and friends have not "forgotten" this 30 hear old murder case and her Dad and I have not accepted that she was murdered for no reason, but someone's sick pleasure.
We will never stop looking and take every day as a new day to find something, anything that will lead to finding this person. Many new methods are out there now and we pray daily that one will work.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Angie ()
Date: May 27, 2019 06:31PM

I pray that something ..anything will surface to help solve this. She deserves justice.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Shady springfield ()
Date: May 30, 2019 06:52AM

DNA will find the perp.
It’ll be a “family man” from the area.
White, in his 60’s now.
Non threatening enough to approach a stranded motorist without her running away.
Strong enough to sexual assault her by placing his .38 revolver in her ribs.
He did not use a knife bc Amy would’ve fought back and would have killers DNA under her nails.
As he held her at gunpoint, he became sexually aroused by her fear, and pulled down her pants with his dominant hand, while still holding the revolver in her side. Killers DNA will be on her leather belt.
Killer is still living in the same house.
Hates how Springfield went from “all white” to afghani then Central American.....
Lives near lynbrook elem school is my guest.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Curiousinunsolved ()
Date: May 09, 2020 12:54AM

After reading every post I was curious if anything was taken from the victim? Typically killers like to keep momentos.

It definitely seems that the killer was someone driving by due to the fact her stuff was still in the car. I am guessing no one can find the keys cause the killer offered her a ride to the gas station and they are probably in or were in the killers vehicle?

Where there other murders in the area of similar nature during this time period?

Besides DNA did they ever get fingerprints off the her vehicle.

Sorry so many questions. And I am sorry for your loss hopefully one day they will be caught

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: FFX Incompetence ()
Date: May 09, 2020 09:19AM

The Fairfax County Keystone Cops bungled the investigation from the beginning. Hell, her mother and aunt had to find the body TWO DAYS later. Even then the Keystone Cops didn't show up. When they did, they probably contaminated the crime scene leaving powdered sugar trails while woofing donuts. Heck, they probably only have DNA from half the police force. The killer could have been sitting there the whole time and he simply walked past the Keystone Cops. They probably even gave him a ride to where he was going.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Korrupt Keystone Kops ()
Date: May 10, 2020 11:59AM

Ever consider that the killer may be one of those boys that is protected by the "thin blue line"?

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: sadithappened ()
Date: May 11, 2020 10:36AM

IT is very sad that something like this ever happens. That was someones daughter. Her life hopes future gone just because of some low life who can't get any unless he takes it.. then he feels guilty and is afraid he will get caught and kills her over it. I hope he got caught for something else or died in some other way. THings like have happened all over the world from rough to ritzy neighborhoods, from urban to rural. I would really love to know were some of you people are from and where you live and have lived that are always calling all of these neighborhoods and areas ghetto.. you would pee your pants if you ever had to get out of your car anywhere near a real ghetto.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: joe lewis ()
Date: April 07, 2021 08:43AM

i understand the police have dna. i bet it matches albert d heath.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: joe lewis ()
Date: April 07, 2021 09:02AM

albert d heath was a strong suspect in the murder of lisa rinker in 1984. he lived at 2129 sandburg rd. lisa rinker was killed 7 miles from there. his residence is straight line from the rinker killing to the baker homicide.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: krono ()
Date: April 07, 2021 01:41PM

I was close to Amy's age when she was murdered. I had gone to Lake Accotink to study at one of the picnic tables. It was the middle of a work day, it had rained earlier so I pretty much had that area of the park to myself and I immersed myself in my textbook. When it was time to leave, I gathered my book and papers up and was surprised to see a man parked in a nearby parking area working on his car - I hadn't realized he was there. I went to my car, got in and the next thing I knew that man was at my car window telling me to get out he just wanted to talk to me. I rolled my window down a teeny bit and asked him what the issue was. He then showed me a badge and told me to step out. I told him I wouldn't step out but that if he was a police officer as he was implying I would follow him to the nearest police station and talk to him there. As I followed him slowly out of the park, up the long, narrow drive towards the exit he suddenly stopped his car as if to block my way out. Luckily, a motorist just so happened to come right then. That made the man start driving again and when we got to the exit there were a couple of police officers there checking for county stickers - that man drove past those cops and went at a pretty quick clip away, clearly no longer expecting me to follow him. I just drove home shaking. I should have said something to the police at the time but I was scared and just wanted to get away.

The guy who did this looked like a middle age Samuel Little (the serial killer) When he had dark hair and a mustache. I'm not saying that is who it was, just that there were similarities in appearance. I suspect he might have been a security guard because he had a badge to show me. I did not get the impression that he was a legitimate police officer although I can't say why I felt that way.

I don't remember the exact date when this happened but it was in the early spring of '89 and I believe it was not too long before Amy was killed. I did call crime stoppers when I heard what happened to Amy so maybe the guy was an undercover narcotics officer or something, I don't know. Every time I hear something about Amy Baker's unsolved murder I think of that incident and wonder if they could be connected.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Herb Cohen ()
Date: April 07, 2021 03:32PM

Krono - You had some good instincts to stay in your car. I don't think the police will ask you to exit your car without providing you with a reason. It's not like the guy saw you driving erratically or anything. And the fact that the guy didn't stop his car when he saw the other cops is a telling sign.

I need to reinforce this situation to my daughter. If women get pulled over and they don't feel safe, they need to ask the cop to call for another officer to come to the scene.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Law Dog ()
Date: April 07, 2021 08:03PM

This is why Virginia needs a law that the police have to be in a marked cruiser to pull someone over for a traffic violation.

Too many incidences of fake police pulling women over.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: krono ()
Date: April 07, 2021 09:46PM

Herb Cohen Wrote:
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> Krono - You had some good instincts to stay in
> your car. I don't think the police will ask you
> to exit your car without providing you with a
> reason. It's not like the guy saw you driving
> erratically or anything. And the fact that the
> guy didn't stop his car when he saw the other cops
> is a telling sign.
>
> I need to reinforce this situation to my daughter.
> If women get pulled over and they don't feel
> safe, they need to ask the cop to call for another
> officer to come to the scene.

I remember seeing a program of some sort on women's safety and self defense. One of the things they said was that if you get pulled over and feel very unsure of the situation to refuse to get out of the car and tell the "officer" that you can not get out of the car but that you will follow him to the nearest police station. That's how I knew how to handle that situation.

Another thing that was always drummed into me was to trust your gut. If you feel threatened you need to run, make noise, draw attention to yourself - go towards other people. Fight, claw, bite, kick. Do not let the person take you to a secondary location.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: joe lewis ()
Date: April 08, 2021 12:01PM

i don't see why the police don't put the dna into a dna bank to see about any matches. i guess it cost too much for the already cash sated commonweath.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: next case on my desk ()
Date: April 08, 2021 02:26PM

I will get to that case as soon as I solve the homicide of Amy Butcher and Amy Candlestickmaker.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: joe lewis ()
Date: April 08, 2021 03:00PM

funny.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: joe lewis ()
Date: April 08, 2021 05:38PM

that wasn't you was it danny? serial killers have a sense of humor.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: proi ()
Date: April 08, 2021 06:24PM

joe lewis Wrote:
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> i don't see why the police don't put the dna into
> a dna bank to see about any matches. i guess it
> cost too much for the already cash sated
> commonweath.

I would imagine that if cold case detectives have been working on it they would have run the DNA on it using the most current technology available. Maybe the killer who did it isn't on file. But, I agree they should absolutely run the DNA whatever they do.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: joe lewis ()
Date: April 08, 2021 08:06PM

thank you!

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: joe lewis ()
Date: April 09, 2021 12:41PM

no! it seems like the cold case boys gave up!

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: Jenny101 ()
Date: April 09, 2021 10:29PM

Is it possible it could be the same killer as the 1986 Murder of 19-year-old Cynthia Barrows in Annandale. She went missing around 7-Eleven at the Bradlick Shopping Center which isnt that far from Backlick road. From looking at the pics online they both had brown hair and kind of similar looks. They never arrested anyone in Cynthia's case and even though there was a person of interest.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: joe lewis ()
Date: April 10, 2021 10:01AM

albert d heath lived in a radius near all those homicides and disapperances.

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: joe lewis ()
Date: April 11, 2021 12:04PM

DNA! DNA! DNA!

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: joe lewis ()
Date: April 12, 2021 11:22AM

lets make it a dna day'

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Re: 1989 Homicide of Amy Baker
Posted by: joe lewis ()
Date: April 13, 2021 09:24PM

confess albert!

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