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For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Biggus Dickus
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:23AM
The A-380 - the world's largest commercial passenger jet - makes its first in-service landing at Dulles today.
Air France flight #28.
Anyone know of good spots to watch this monster?
Air France flight #28.
Anyone know of good spots to watch this monster?
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Shadow
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:23AM
when?
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Booyah!
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:25AM
According to Air France's website, its secheduled for 1:00 pm but looks like its running an hour late.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:27AM
Biggus Dickus Wrote:
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> The A-380 - the world's largest commercial
> passenger jet - makes its first in-service landing
> at Dulles today.
>
> Air France flight #28.
>
> Anyone know of good spots to watch this monster?
If you don't mind spending a few bucks, the Daily Parking Garage straight across from the Terminal is a pretty good spot.
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> The A-380 - the world's largest commercial
> passenger jet - makes its first in-service landing
> at Dulles today.
>
> Air France flight #28.
>
> Anyone know of good spots to watch this monster?
If you don't mind spending a few bucks, the Daily Parking Garage straight across from the Terminal is a pretty good spot.
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:28AM
Just in time for the world's largest passenger...
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:32AM
I checked with a friend at United at IAD, they are expecting a north landing today. Probably 1L or 1R. Not sure what the procedures are on super-heavies. 1R used to be the de facto runway for 74s at IAD.
If you want to see it en route, drive to Reston or somewhere near the the Wegman's on 29. If you want to take a risk and bet on one runway or another - the Lowes Parking lot on 50 gives you a good angle for 1R.
The Sheetz on 50 is a good spot for 1L.
The other option would be to go to Udvar Hazy and get to the ATC tower.
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If you want to see it en route, drive to Reston or somewhere near the the Wegman's on 29. If you want to take a risk and bet on one runway or another - the Lowes Parking lot on 50 gives you a good angle for 1R.
The Sheetz on 50 is a good spot for 1L.
The other option would be to go to Udvar Hazy and get to the ATC tower.
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:34AM
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:35AM
It's funny how everyone is excited about seeing this thing land at Dulles now. How long until the people in South Riding are bitching about it flying overhead everyday?
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:36AM
I am now told that 1R is the preference and the likely runway. In other words, Chantilly Lowes!
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:39AM
Just based on runway lengths, I would have guessed 1C or 1R; 1L is a thousand 2,100 feet shorter.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KIAD
EDIT: corrected runway length differential.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/06/2011 09:41AM by Ut videam.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KIAD
EDIT: corrected runway length differential.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/06/2011 09:41AM by Ut videam.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Diet Dew
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:44AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> It's funny how everyone is excited about seeing
> this thing land at Dulles now. How long until the
> people in South Riding are bitching about it
> flying overhead everyday?
Will it ever fly into Dulles on a daily basis?
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> It's funny how everyone is excited about seeing
> this thing land at Dulles now. How long until the
> people in South Riding are bitching about it
> flying overhead everyday?
Will it ever fly into Dulles on a daily basis?
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:46AM
Diet Dew Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's funny how everyone is excited about seeing
> > this thing land at Dulles now. How long until
> the
> > people in South Riding are bitching about it
> > flying overhead everyday?
>
>
> Will it ever fly into Dulles on a daily basis?
Ye, this is scheduled service.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > It's funny how everyone is excited about seeing
> > this thing land at Dulles now. How long until
> the
> > people in South Riding are bitching about it
> > flying overhead everyday?
>
>
> Will it ever fly into Dulles on a daily basis?
Ye, this is scheduled service.
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:48AM
Ut videam Wrote:
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> Just based on runway lengths, I would have guessed
> 1C or 1R; 1L is a thousand 2,100 feet shorter.
>
> http://www.airnav.com/airport/KIAD
>
> EDIT: corrected runway length differential.
Forgot how far 1L/19R is from the main terminal. I think that distance and taxi time rules out 1L.
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> Just based on runway lengths, I would have guessed
> 1C or 1R; 1L is a thousand 2,100 feet shorter.
>
> http://www.airnav.com/airport/KIAD
>
> EDIT: corrected runway length differential.
Forgot how far 1L/19R is from the main terminal. I think that distance and taxi time rules out 1L.
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
graymoose1
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:52AM
Reminds me of how excited everyone one was about the Concord
Damn thing shook the windows when it flew overhead.
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Damn thing shook the windows when it flew overhead.
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
theShadowToo
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Date: June 06, 2011 09:52AM
Too bad I'm working from home today, my office window looks out at the final approach for 1R.
Chantilly Costco would be a good spot for either 1L or 1R.
For you bikers out there, ride your bike over to Udvar-Hazy and hang out just south of the runway. It's sort of like Gravelly Point, but a bit farther.
Chantilly Costco would be a good spot for either 1L or 1R.
For you bikers out there, ride your bike over to Udvar-Hazy and hang out just south of the runway. It's sort of like Gravelly Point, but a bit farther.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Got Glock ?
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Date: June 06, 2011 10:22AM
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Diet Dew
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Date: June 06, 2011 10:32AM
When will it depart?
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
theShadowToo
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Date: June 06, 2011 10:43AM
Diet Dew Wrote:
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> When will it depart?
Probably late afternoon, early evening.
Quick search at flightaware.com shows it departing at 440p.
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> When will it depart?
Probably late afternoon, early evening.
Quick search at flightaware.com shows it departing at 440p.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Jr
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Date: June 06, 2011 11:21AM
theShadowToo Wrote:
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> Diet Dew Wrote:
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> > When will it depart?
>
>
> Probably late afternoon, early evening.
>
> Quick search at flightaware.com shows it departing
> at 440p.
We should have a south wind at that time so it should be departing from the North. 19L/R
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> Diet Dew Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > When will it depart?
>
>
> Probably late afternoon, early evening.
>
> Quick search at flightaware.com shows it departing
> at 440p.
We should have a south wind at that time so it should be departing from the North. 19L/R
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
curious
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Date: June 06, 2011 11:37AM
I remember seeing the Concorde landing at Dulles back in the day- Beautiful airplane. For me, the A380 doesn't stir any visceral reaction. Only another way for the airlines to make more money . . .
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
JR
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Date: June 06, 2011 11:39AM
curious Wrote:
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> I remember seeing the Concorde landing at Dulles
> back in the day- Beautiful airplane. For me, the
> A380 doesn't stir any visceral reaction. Only
> another way for the airlines to make more money .
> . .
But isn't that the point. Airlines are not really into makeing pretty planes that don't make money. The 747 still flyes because it makes money, Concord isn't because it didn't make money.
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> I remember seeing the Concorde landing at Dulles
> back in the day- Beautiful airplane. For me, the
> A380 doesn't stir any visceral reaction. Only
> another way for the airlines to make more money .
> . .
But isn't that the point. Airlines are not really into makeing pretty planes that don't make money. The 747 still flyes because it makes money, Concord isn't because it didn't make money.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: June 06, 2011 11:51AM
JR Wrote:
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> curious Wrote:
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> -----
> > I remember seeing the Concorde landing at
> Dulles
> > back in the day- Beautiful airplane. For me,
> the
> > A380 doesn't stir any visceral reaction. Only
> > another way for the airlines to make more money
> .
> > . .
>
>
> But isn't that the point. Airlines are not really
> into makeing pretty planes that don't make money.
> The 747 still flyes because it makes money,
> Concord isn't because it didn't make money.
Concord didn't make money because it seated three people and cost a billion fucking dollars to fly.
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> curious Wrote:
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> > I remember seeing the Concorde landing at
> Dulles
> > back in the day- Beautiful airplane. For me,
> the
> > A380 doesn't stir any visceral reaction. Only
> > another way for the airlines to make more money
> .
> > . .
>
>
> But isn't that the point. Airlines are not really
> into makeing pretty planes that don't make money.
> The 747 still flyes because it makes money,
> Concord isn't because it didn't make money.
Concord didn't make money because it seated three people and cost a billion fucking dollars to fly.
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
don't forget the E
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Date: June 06, 2011 11:56AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> JR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > curious Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I remember seeing the Concorde landing at
> > Dulles
> > > back in the day- Beautiful airplane. For me,
> > the
> > > A380 doesn't stir any visceral reaction. Only
> > > another way for the airlines to make more
> money
> > .
> > > . .
> >
> >
> > But isn't that the point. Airlines are not
> really
> > into makeing pretty planes that don't make
> money.
> > The 747 still flyes because it makes money,
> > Concord isn't because it didn't make money.
>
>
> Concord didn't make money because it seated three
> people and cost a billion fucking dollars to fly.
BA ran Concorde at a profit. A pretty good one actually.
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> JR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > curious Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I remember seeing the Concorde landing at
> > Dulles
> > > back in the day- Beautiful airplane. For me,
> > the
> > > A380 doesn't stir any visceral reaction. Only
> > > another way for the airlines to make more
> money
> > .
> > > . .
> >
> >
> > But isn't that the point. Airlines are not
> really
> > into makeing pretty planes that don't make
> money.
> > The 747 still flyes because it makes money,
> > Concord isn't because it didn't make money.
>
>
> Concord didn't make money because it seated three
> people and cost a billion fucking dollars to fly.
BA ran Concorde at a profit. A pretty good one actually.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Dulles
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Date: June 06, 2011 11:58AM
It is above the Maritimes now. Schedule for landing 1:54 PM.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: June 06, 2011 12:00PM
curious Wrote:
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> I remember seeing the Concorde landing at Dulles
> back in the day- Beautiful airplane. For me, the
> A380 doesn't stir any visceral reaction. Only
> another way for the airlines to make more money .
The A380 is just an enormous passenger jet, made by a French company that is determined to put Boeing out of business.
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> I remember seeing the Concorde landing at Dulles
> back in the day- Beautiful airplane. For me, the
> A380 doesn't stir any visceral reaction. Only
> another way for the airlines to make more money .
The A380 is just an enormous passenger jet, made by a French company that is determined to put Boeing out of business.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
sub
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Date: June 06, 2011 12:05PM
eesh Wrote:
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> curious Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I remember seeing the Concorde landing at
> Dulles
> > back in the day- Beautiful airplane. For me,
> the
> > A380 doesn't stir any visceral reaction. Only
> > another way for the airlines to make more money
> .
>
>
>
>
> The A380 is just an enormous passenger jet, made
> by a Frenchcompany GOVERNMENT that is determined to put
> Boeing out of business.
fixed it for you
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> curious Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I remember seeing the Concorde landing at
> Dulles
> > back in the day- Beautiful airplane. For me,
> the
> > A380 doesn't stir any visceral reaction. Only
> > another way for the airlines to make more money
> .
>
>
>
>
> The A380 is just an enormous passenger jet, made
> by a French
> Boeing out of business.
fixed it for you
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
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Date: June 06, 2011 12:12PM
My understanding is that Concorde was profitable but not tremendously profitable. It was very expensive to run and getting more expensive every day with parts becoming more scarce and with ever increasing depreciation and fuel burdens.
Concorde may have survived the Paris crash if BA and AF wanted, but most likely would have died in this recession.
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Concorde may have survived the Paris crash if BA and AF wanted, but most likely would have died in this recession.
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
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Date: June 06, 2011 12:12PM
Dulles Wrote:
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> It is above the Maritimes now. Schedule for
> landing 1:54 PM.
Latest estimate for runway arrival is 1:47 pm. Updates here:
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlightExtendedDetails.do?id=229103632&airlineCode=AF&flightNumber=28
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> It is above the Maritimes now. Schedule for
> landing 1:54 PM.
Latest estimate for runway arrival is 1:47 pm. Updates here:
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlightExtendedDetails.do?id=229103632&airlineCode=AF&flightNumber=28
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
A380
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Date: June 06, 2011 12:24PM
Is it true that is has a large bar area in first class?
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
A380 has had engine failure problems
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Date: June 06, 2011 12:31PM
Scary.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: June 06, 2011 12:32PM
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
sdfsd
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Date: June 06, 2011 01:19PM
who cares about that? What about Space Shuttle Discovery?
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
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Date: June 06, 2011 01:38PM
At Dulles, lots of people here.
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: June 06, 2011 01:40PM
Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> At Dulles, lots of people here.
Do you like being a ticket agent? I bet that's a stressful job.
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> At Dulles, lots of people here.
Do you like being a ticket agent? I bet that's a stressful job.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: June 06, 2011 01:43PM
A380 Wrote:
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> Is it true that is has a large bar area in first
> class?
Apparently the planes are customized to each airline. Some A380s are luxurious and have huge bar areas while other A380s are giant economy class planes that squeeze people in like cattle.
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> Is it true that is has a large bar area in first
> class?
Apparently the planes are customized to each airline. Some A380s are luxurious and have huge bar areas while other A380s are giant economy class planes that squeeze people in like cattle.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
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Date: June 06, 2011 01:44PM
Any idea which runway?
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
More Complete
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Date: June 06, 2011 01:55PM
Has it landed yet?
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
justsayin
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Date: June 06, 2011 01:56PM
If only there was some discussion in the thread already about ideas or info on which runway!!!
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
skywatcher
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Date: June 06, 2011 02:02PM
Here ya go...big plane - Runway 1R:
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Bob der Baumeister
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Date: June 06, 2011 02:24PM
That is one hideous plane. Like a guppy that grew wings. For the sake of passengers I'm glad it doesn't land at CDG 1.
Now if Paris can just get rid of that Memorial du George Jetson.
Now if Paris can just get rid of that Memorial du George Jetson.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
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Date: June 06, 2011 02:25PM
justsayin Wrote:
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> If only there was some discussion in the thread
> already about ideas or info on which runway!!!
Yeah, because that can't change according to prevailing winds or anything like that. And runways certainly don't have two usable ends. Oh wait...
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> If only there was some discussion in the thread
> already about ideas or info on which runway!!!
Yeah, because that can't change according to prevailing winds or anything like that. And runways certainly don't have two usable ends. Oh wait...
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
justsayin
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Date: June 06, 2011 02:28PM
Ok, runways described earlier weren't "any idea" of which runway would be used, got it, thanks for setting us straight.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
skywatcher
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Date: June 06, 2011 02:28PM
justsayin Wrote:
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> If only there was some discussion in the thread
> already about ideas or info on which runway!!!
A big plane requires a big runway - prevailing winds out of the north so "1-something" - 1R is the longest:
View Larger Map
FYI - runways are numbered according to compass direction the plane flies to land on it. I fthe wind is coming from the north then it is heading almost due south - that is, it is blowing toward 190 degrees. The opposite of that is almost due north or, in this case 10 degrees. Chop off that superfluous ending '0' and you get the runway number - "1". When there are parallel runways to handle lots of traffic (like at Dulles) the number is enhanced with a "L" or "R" to specify which one that's aligned 10/190... and sometimes (Chicago Ohare?) you can even have a third runway...not sure what it's letter designation is, though...
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> If only there was some discussion in the thread
> already about ideas or info on which runway!!!
A big plane requires a big runway - prevailing winds out of the north so "1-something" - 1R is the longest:
View Larger Map
FYI - runways are numbered according to compass direction the plane flies to land on it. I fthe wind is coming from the north then it is heading almost due south - that is, it is blowing toward 190 degrees. The opposite of that is almost due north or, in this case 10 degrees. Chop off that superfluous ending '0' and you get the runway number - "1". When there are parallel runways to handle lots of traffic (like at Dulles) the number is enhanced with a "L" or "R" to specify which one that's aligned 10/190... and sometimes (Chicago Ohare?) you can even have a third runway...not sure what it's letter designation is, though...
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
JR
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Date: June 06, 2011 02:32PM
> Ohare?) you can even have a third runway...not
> sure what it's letter designation is, though...
L = Left, R=Right, C=Center from the perspective as if your were going to land or take off on it.
> sure what it's letter designation is, though...
L = Left, R=Right, C=Center from the perspective as if your were going to land or take off on it.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
justsayin
()
Date: June 06, 2011 02:32PM
Thanks for posting that info, interesting to someone like me who knows nothing of such things.
In the note you quoted I was being sarcastic... plenty of people had been making guesses in the thread.
In the note you quoted I was being sarcastic... plenty of people had been making guesses in the thread.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
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Date: June 06, 2011 02:33PM
skywatcher Wrote:
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> that's aligned 10/190... and sometimes (Chicago
> Ohare?) you can even have a third runway...not
> sure what it's letter designation is, though...
C, for center. Dulles also has 1/19 L, R, and C.
For parallel runways beyond 3, they redesignate one or more of them with an offset number—so, for example, you'd have 1/19 L and R, then 2/20 L and R.
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> that's aligned 10/190... and sometimes (Chicago
> Ohare?) you can even have a third runway...not
> sure what it's letter designation is, though...
C, for center. Dulles also has 1/19 L, R, and C.
For parallel runways beyond 3, they redesignate one or more of them with an offset number—so, for example, you'd have 1/19 L and R, then 2/20 L and R.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
skywatcher
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Date: June 06, 2011 02:34PM
Apologies - I see that Dulles itself has the runways designated L, C, and R:
so I have no idea if the plane landed on 1C or 1R - my impression from long ago was that the 1R (which I thought was labeled something else) was for smaller planes...but that was long ago. My gut feeling thus would put the plane down on 1C...without checking anything else.
so I have no idea if the plane landed on 1C or 1R - my impression from long ago was that the 1R (which I thought was labeled something else) was for smaller planes...but that was long ago. My gut feeling thus would put the plane down on 1C...without checking anything else.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
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Date: June 06, 2011 02:34PM
Nice shots, skywatcher. Where were you?
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Kilton
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Date: June 06, 2011 02:37PM
I was hanging in front of 1R with the cool crowd. What a turnout. Hats off to the coppers who waited until the a380 landed before kicking people out.
I would wonder if Ut was there but as of 1:44pm he still somehow didn't know which runway was going to be used. :-)
I would wonder if Ut was there but as of 1:44pm he still somehow didn't know which runway was going to be used. :-)
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
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Date: June 06, 2011 02:40PM
Kilton Wrote:
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> I was hanging in front of 1R with the cool crowd.
> What a turnout. Hats off to the coppers who waited
> until the a380 landed before kicking people out.
>
> I would wonder if Ut was there but as of 1:44pm he
> still somehow didn't know which runway was going
> to be used. :-)
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> I was hanging in front of 1R with the cool crowd.
> What a turnout. Hats off to the coppers who waited
> until the a380 landed before kicking people out.
>
> I would wonder if Ut was there but as of 1:44pm he
> still somehow didn't know which runway was going
> to be used. :-)
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
skywatcher
()
Date: June 06, 2011 02:44PM
Ut videam Wrote:
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> Nice shots, skywatcher. Where were you?
Probably about 4-ish miles due south of the runway touchdown point - Sully Station (route 50 is about 2 miles north and the runway about that north of 50). The plane a few hundred feet up - landing gear coming down in first photo.
BTW - after looking at relative locations I'm convinced that 1R is indeed the runway the plane landed on and that I, in general, seldom if ever see traffic for 1L but see considerable traffic for 1C.
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> Nice shots, skywatcher. Where were you?
Probably about 4-ish miles due south of the runway touchdown point - Sully Station (route 50 is about 2 miles north and the runway about that north of 50). The plane a few hundred feet up - landing gear coming down in first photo.
BTW - after looking at relative locations I'm convinced that 1R is indeed the runway the plane landed on and that I, in general, seldom if ever see traffic for 1L but see considerable traffic for 1C.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
()
Date: June 06, 2011 02:48PM
skywatcher Wrote:
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> BTW - after looking at relative locations I'm
> convinced that 1R is indeed the runway the plane
> landed on and that I, in general, seldom if ever
> see traffic for 1L but see considerable traffic
> for 1C.
Ditto. As Pinhead mentioned earlier in the thread, 1L/19R is quite a hike from the main terminal so it probably doesn't get used much for commercial passenger traffic.
Also, in terms of the A380, 1R/19L is also only 9,400 feet long (as opposed to 11,500 for 1R/19L and 1C/19C and 10,500 for 12/30), which may rule it out for super-heavy ops.
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> BTW - after looking at relative locations I'm
> convinced that 1R is indeed the runway the plane
> landed on and that I, in general, seldom if ever
> see traffic for 1L but see considerable traffic
> for 1C.
Ditto. As Pinhead mentioned earlier in the thread, 1L/19R is quite a hike from the main terminal so it probably doesn't get used much for commercial passenger traffic.
Also, in terms of the A380, 1R/19L is also only 9,400 feet long (as opposed to 11,500 for 1R/19L and 1C/19C and 10,500 for 12/30), which may rule it out for super-heavy ops.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Robert Hayes
()
Date: June 06, 2011 02:53PM
A source inside the tower indicated that a local Renaissance man was allowed to guide the plane in using the handle Pack Leader.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
()
Date: June 06, 2011 02:53PM
Negative, Ghostrider, the pattern is full.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
hailstorm
()
Date: June 06, 2011 02:57PM
a giant blue hailstone the size of a basketball crashed through my shed roof right that flight time...
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Rapture
()
Date: June 06, 2011 03:00PM
hailstorm Wrote:
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> a giant blue hailstone the size of a basketball
> crashed through my shed roof right that flight
> time...
Funny if true.
But that low it's doubtful the poop would freeze...
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> a giant blue hailstone the size of a basketball
> crashed through my shed roof right that flight
> time...
Funny if true.
But that low it's doubtful the poop would freeze...
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
()
Date: June 06, 2011 03:12PM
Kilton Wrote:
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> I was hanging in front of 1R with the cool crowd.
> What a turnout. Hats off to the coppers who waited
> until the a380 landed before kicking people out.
>
> I would wonder if Ut was there but as of 1:44pm he
> still somehow didn't know which runway was going
> to be used. :-)
I saw the cop too. He was pretty kewl about it. Guy standing next to me was probably the first to see it - it was over Fair Lakes for the downwind approach. About 3 minutes later (right after an Austrian Airlines heavy (I think A340) everyone was looking south and saw this giant lumbering behemoth en route. We knew it was it, and then somebody with binoculars confirmed.
Big, big plane.
A 747-400 landed about 2 planes after and looked a fair amount smaller...
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> I was hanging in front of 1R with the cool crowd.
> What a turnout. Hats off to the coppers who waited
> until the a380 landed before kicking people out.
>
> I would wonder if Ut was there but as of 1:44pm he
> still somehow didn't know which runway was going
> to be used. :-)
I saw the cop too. He was pretty kewl about it. Guy standing next to me was probably the first to see it - it was over Fair Lakes for the downwind approach. About 3 minutes later (right after an Austrian Airlines heavy (I think A340) everyone was looking south and saw this giant lumbering behemoth en route. We knew it was it, and then somebody with binoculars confirmed.
Big, big plane.
A 747-400 landed about 2 planes after and looked a fair amount smaller...
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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Kilton
()
Date: June 06, 2011 03:27PM
Video from the cool crowd area, not shot by me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE3bm2YRGSI
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
skywatcher
()
Date: June 06, 2011 04:21PM
Kilton Wrote:
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> Video from the cool crowd area, not shot by me:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE3bm2YRGSI
Shot with a TABLET camera!
Lol! THAT'S probably a first as well!
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> Video from the cool crowd area, not shot by me:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE3bm2YRGSI
Shot with a TABLET camera!
Lol! THAT'S probably a first as well!
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: June 06, 2011 04:56PM
That plane is big and loud! Let the South Riding bitching begin!
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
()
Date: June 06, 2011 04:59PM
South Riding need not worry—Centreville's going to see the bulk of that bad boy's approaches (1C and 1R).
EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised if "South Riding bitching" had something to do with 1L being only 9,400 feet long.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/06/2011 04:59PM by Ut videam.
EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised if "South Riding bitching" had something to do with 1L being only 9,400 feet long.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/06/2011 04:59PM by Ut videam.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
()
Date: June 06, 2011 05:18PM
Actually, it was very very quiet.....
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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"
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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
skywatcher
()
Date: June 06, 2011 06:29PM
Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> Actually, it was very very quiet.....
Yes it was - a couple MUCH smaller jets came down the 1C landing path while I was waiting around for The Big One and I thought THEY were the one for which I was waiting because I could hear them so loudly.
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> Actually, it was very very quiet.....
Yes it was - a couple MUCH smaller jets came down the 1C landing path while I was waiting around for The Big One and I thought THEY were the one for which I was waiting because I could hear them so loudly.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
()
Date: June 06, 2011 09:56PM
eesh Wrote:
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> A380 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is it true that is has a large bar area in
> first
> > class?
>
>
>
>
> Apparently the planes are customized to each
> airline. Some A380s are luxurious and have huge
> bar areas while other A380s are giant economy
> class planes that squeeze people in like cattle.
Hell, the Emirates A380s have a fully functioning shower for F Class passengers.
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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"
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> A380 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is it true that is has a large bar area in
> first
> > class?
>
>
>
>
> Apparently the planes are customized to each
> airline. Some A380s are luxurious and have huge
> bar areas while other A380s are giant economy
> class planes that squeeze people in like cattle.
Hell, the Emirates A380s have a fully functioning shower for F Class passengers.
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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/06/2011 09:56PM by Pinhead the Cenobite.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
????
()
Date: June 07, 2011 10:13AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> That plane is big and loud! Let the South Riding
> bitching begin!
What do the fols in so called Oak Hill think of it?
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> That plane is big and loud! Let the South Riding
> bitching begin!
What do the fols in so called Oak Hill think of it?
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: June 07, 2011 11:57AM
Awesome photos skywatcher, thanks! I'd have to watch a couple of 747's, 777's, A-340's in early, mid-afternoon and compare to the A-380 to get a better impression of its size. I'll be out there by Udvar-Hazy later this summer for sure to get a good look.
When I used to work the ramp a few years ago, got to go inside the AF Concorde when it was parked after its final flight here - just before being moved into the U-H. Pretty tiny on the inside.
When I used to work the ramp a few years ago, got to go inside the AF Concorde when it was parked after its final flight here - just before being moved into the U-H. Pretty tiny on the inside.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
()
Date: June 07, 2011 12:13PM
Here is my contribution to the photo pile...
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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"
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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"
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Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
skywatcher
()
Date: June 07, 2011 12:39PM
Berdhuis Wrote:
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> Awesome photos skywatcher, thanks!
They turned out really well, didn't they?
I was handholding a Panasonic DMC-TZ5 that I got "free" with credit card "rewards" points a year or two ago. Had zoomed out fully (albeit not the 10X digital zoom) and took half a dozen photos or so from which these two were picked (*). Each image above is one quarter the size actually taken - reduced to not irritate Cary - but otherwise untouched/uncropped from as the camera saw them.
Anyway, I was surprised how clear these were since I was panning while standing on the hot street in bare feet and couldn't really see the display since I forgot my glasses and it was REALLY bright outside!
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(*) The unposted/deleted image where just the tip of the tail is peeking out from behind a tree is one I decided just wouldn't make the cut. BTW, I should have turned off the "review" part of the picture-taking so I could consecutively take faster pictures; unfortunately, the "review" part took up a considerable amount of time per picture in this literally-unique photo op.
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> Awesome photos skywatcher, thanks!
They turned out really well, didn't they?
I was handholding a Panasonic DMC-TZ5 that I got "free" with credit card "rewards" points a year or two ago. Had zoomed out fully (albeit not the 10X digital zoom) and took half a dozen photos or so from which these two were picked (*). Each image above is one quarter the size actually taken - reduced to not irritate Cary - but otherwise untouched/uncropped from as the camera saw them.
Anyway, I was surprised how clear these were since I was panning while standing on the hot street in bare feet and couldn't really see the display since I forgot my glasses and it was REALLY bright outside!
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(*) The unposted/deleted image where just the tip of the tail is peeking out from behind a tree is one I decided just wouldn't make the cut. BTW, I should have turned off the "review" part of the picture-taking so I could consecutively take faster pictures; unfortunately, the "review" part took up a considerable amount of time per picture in this literally-unique photo op.
Attachments:
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
skywatcher
()
Date: June 07, 2011 12:47PM
skywatcher Wrote:
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> ...Each image above is one quarter the size actually taken...
Hold on there!
Wrong - not one quarter actual size, one SIXTEENTH actual size. I reduced EACH dimension as 25% of original...
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> ...Each image above is one quarter the size actually taken...
Hold on there!
Wrong - not one quarter actual size, one SIXTEENTH actual size. I reduced EACH dimension as 25% of original...
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Berdhuis
()
Date: June 07, 2011 12:57PM
skywatcher Wrote:
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> skywatcher Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...Each image above is one quarter the size
> actually taken...
>
> Hold on there!
>
> Wrong - not one quarter actual size, one SIXTEENTH
> actual size. I reduced EACH dimension as 25% of
> original...
You and Pinhead the Cenobite did a good job with the photos, think I'll use them for desktops.
+1 to each of you.
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> skywatcher Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...Each image above is one quarter the size
> actually taken...
>
> Hold on there!
>
> Wrong - not one quarter actual size, one SIXTEENTH
> actual size. I reduced EACH dimension as 25% of
> original...
You and Pinhead the Cenobite did a good job with the photos, think I'll use them for desktops.
+1 to each of you.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
b
()
Date: June 07, 2011 06:31PM
Saw it leaving today around 5pm.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Check Your Facts
()
Date: June 08, 2011 01:46PM
Sir you would be wrong, those things have been taking off from Dulles here for a while. They usually can be seen in the morning. The first time it was here was a couple years ago.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
()
Date: June 08, 2011 01:56PM
Check Your Facts Wrote:
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> Sir you would be wrong, those things have been
> taking off from Dulles here for a while. They
> usually can be seen in the morning. The first time
> it was here was a couple years ago.
Wrong. There was a single "proving flight" in 2007, but regular scheduled service didn't begin until Monday, June 6th.
http://www.metwashairports.com/3943.htm
EDIT: Clarified that "Check Your Facts" was full of shit in saying that "those things have been taking off from Dulles here for a while."
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/08/2011 07:11PM by Ut videam.
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> Sir you would be wrong, those things have been
> taking off from Dulles here for a while. They
> usually can be seen in the morning. The first time
> it was here was a couple years ago.
Wrong. There was a single "proving flight" in 2007, but regular scheduled service didn't begin until Monday, June 6th.
http://www.metwashairports.com/3943.htm
EDIT: Clarified that "Check Your Facts" was full of shit in saying that "those things have been taking off from Dulles here for a while."
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/08/2011 07:11PM by Ut videam.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Guest
()
Date: June 08, 2011 04:18PM
Departing from 19L yesterday afternoon. I knew fairly well it would bank right past me where I was waiting along Stonecroft Blvd just north of Rt50. Much quieter than a 747 which will rumble my house even at +5000ft. Here the A380 was around 1000-1500ft. After seeing biz jets and regionals depart before it, in comparison it was monstrous when it appeared over the tree line. Kind of like when you see a full moon rising over the horizon.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Ut videam
()
Date: June 08, 2011 05:26PM
Wow, nice shot. Thanks for posting.
Re: For you plane spotters - world's largest passenger jet arrives at Dulles today
Posted by:
Kilton
()
Date: June 08, 2011 05:53PM
Ut videam Wrote:
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>
> Wrong. There was a "proving flight" in 2007.
That's right! I was there for that too, baby. Good crowd that day as well.
Way to correct that guy. What a bozo.
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>
> Wrong. There was a "proving flight" in 2007.
That's right! I was there for that too, baby. Good crowd that day as well.
Way to correct that guy. What a bozo.