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getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Tthom ()
Date: August 25, 2005 07:19PM

i didnt even think there was a law in fairfax about "avoiding" a stop light until i got a ticket for it. I was pulling into starbucks and when i pulled out i got pulled over and was charged with the bull shit of avoiding a stop light. When i went to court next week i pleaded not guilty. It turns out avoiding a stop light isnt a crime unless you plead guilty to it. so if you ever get pulled over for some kind of shit like that? dont plead guilty.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: ben ()
Date: August 25, 2005 07:27PM

Tthom Wrote:
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> i didnt even think there was a law in fairfax
> about "avoiding" a stop light until i got a ticket
> for it. I was pulling into starbucks and when i
> pulled out i got pulled over and was charged with
> the bull shit of avoiding a stop light. When i
> went to court next week i pleaded not guilty. It
> turns out avoiding a stop light isnt a crime
> unless you plead guilty to it. so if you ever get
> pulled over for some kind of shit like that? dont
> plead guilty.

Avoiding a Traffic Control Device? It's as serious as any other violation- you'll be found guilty if the police officer says you did it.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: tthom ()
Date: August 25, 2005 07:30PM

no its not. if you pull into starbucks and come out another entrance then get pulled over for avoiding a stoplight, you dont have to plead guilty, i pled not guilty and didnt get charged for this "serious" offense.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: ben ()
Date: August 25, 2005 07:41PM

tthom Wrote:
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> no its not. if you pull into starbucks and come
> out another entrance then get pulled over for
> avoiding a stoplight, you dont have to plead
> guilty, i pled not guilty and didnt get charged
> for this "serious" offense.

You don't have to plead guilty to anything, and you DID get charged with it. Maybe you didn't get convicted, but that's too bad. Start driving like a normal and responsible person (AKA, stop trying to cut in line) and you won't be pulled over anymore.

I wish that the police would start enforcing this statute in my neighborhood to try and stem the tide of rush-hour commuters that cut through to avoid a nasty light nearby.

Thanks to them we're getting traffic calming measures put in, which bottom out my car. Thanks!

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Dan O. ()
Date: August 25, 2005 08:18PM

Just wondering, did you actually stop your car and go into Starbucks before leaving the parking lot?

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: August 25, 2005 08:41PM

people get busted for this all the time going from 29 in cerntreville to stone road by cutting through the park and ride lot. Well-deserved tickets, too. Many times the assholes fly through thre, blocking busses and almost hitting commuters.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Tthom ()
Date: August 25, 2005 08:47PM

i had stopped my car got my coffee and when i left i got pulled over

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: mad max, JD ()
Date: August 25, 2005 08:49PM

Save your receipt.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Dan O. ()
Date: August 25, 2005 08:50PM

I find it hard to believe that a cop issued you a ticket w/o seeing you drive through the lot w/o stopping. Did you ask whether or not he saw you pull into the lot or go in/out of Starbucks? Did you show him the cup of coffee you just bought?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/25/2005 08:51PM by Dan O..

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Tthom ()
Date: August 25, 2005 09:02PM

yea i asked him and he told me he saw my car pull into the parking lot, and then drive across to the other side of the stoplight.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Tthom ()
Date: August 25, 2005 09:06PM

he didnt really care for what i had to say, or what i had to show, the guy was a dick

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: BS Sniffer ()
Date: August 25, 2005 10:29PM

Tthom Wrote:
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> yea i asked him and he told me he saw my car pull
> into the parking lot, and then drive across to the
> other side of the stoplight.


Yeah, I think you're full of shit. You got caught and now you're trying to make excuses. The police officer, the judge, and me don't believe a word of it. Take your punishment and shut the fuck up. Good day to you, sir. I said Good Day!

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: kit.car ()
Date: August 25, 2005 10:52PM


"Traffic signals apply to drivers, motorcycle riders, bicyclists, moped-riders and pedestrians. You must obey the signals unless a police officer is directing traffic. It is unlawful to avoid a traffic signal, sign or control device by driving off the roadway and onto or across public or private property."


http://www.dmv.virginia.gov/webdoc/citizen/drivers/vadm/vadm2-7b.asp





Heres a news article about it...

http://www.winchestersun.com/articles/2005/08/06/local_news/opinion/edit797.txt


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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Durka Durka ()
Date: August 26, 2005 12:09AM

The fine can't be much for that...it's the pussiest of the moving violations...If I was a cop I'd ticket you for it and ticket you for double posting..

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: August 26, 2005 09:56AM

to all of you who insist that people should be punished severly for such a violation, i say, "go fuck yourself" as it's the polite thing to do. it's not a big deal. i figure it's just one more level of what i call the darwin effect; people get killed for doing stupid things. if that means not looking if there is a car coming your way, so be it.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: ben ()
Date: August 26, 2005 10:36AM

Gravis Wrote:
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> to all of you who insist that people should be
> punished severly for such a violation, i say, "go
> fuck yourself" as it's the polite thing to do.
> it's not a big deal. i figure it's just one more
> level of what i call the darwin effect; people get
> killed for doing stupid things. if that means not
> looking if there is a car coming your way, so be
> it.

It's up to the person minding their own business to be more responsible, rather than the person driving the vehicle that's capable of killing someone? Yup, you're still an idiot.


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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: pissed ()
Date: August 26, 2005 11:37AM

Gravis - you're an idiot. Have you ever seen a small child hit by an asswipe that couldn't wait 15 seconds for the light to change, so he drove through a gas station parking lot, cruching into a kid?

I have!

I hate dickheads who do this. People get hit all the time, but the drivers seem to think it's their right to do it.

How was it the kid's fault (who was walking right alongside his mother) for stepping out from behind a gas pump and getting smacked by a car trying to beat the other cars around the corner?

So why don't YOU go fuck yourself.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: pissed ()
Date: August 26, 2005 12:07PM

And to Durka Durka - pussiest? Someday when you take out some little kid and they take you away in handcuffs, let me know how much of a pussy law it is.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: August 27, 2005 04:15PM

honestly now, one less person to plague the world is a step in the right direction. please hold the obvious "well why dont you make us all happen and take yourself out of the world?!" clearly im here to ruin your day. if you cant sprint out of the way, stop playing frogger and park closer.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: darbrewe ()
Date: August 29, 2005 04:26PM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/2015 02:21PM by darbrewe.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: truthserum ()
Date: September 05, 2005 08:25AM

I hope you didn't get pulled over by either of those two ffx county cops whose cruisers were parked under the "No Parking" signs while they enjoyed their cappucinos from starbucks.

I called that in . . . can you tell me why two police vehicles are parked under "no parking" signs and two officers in uniform are standing in the line inside starbucks? No Sir, but I will report it to the SOD at the Franconia District.

Bad Cop . . . No Starbucks and Croissant . . . what is this world coming to?

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: September 09, 2005 05:52PM

truthserum Wrote:
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> I hope you didn't get pulled over by either of
> those two ffx county cops whose cruisers were
> parked under the "No Parking" signs while they
> enjoyed their cappucinos from starbucks.
>
> I called that in . . . can you tell me why two
> police vehicles are parked under "no parking"
> signs and two officers in uniform are standing in
> the line inside starbucks? No Sir, but I will
> report it to the SOD at the Franconia District.
>
> Bad Cop . . . No Starbucks and Croissant . . .
> what is this world coming to?

ive seen worse. i was at IHOP at like 2am and i saw a cop just park his cruiser right in the parking lot lane, you know, where you drive, blocking three or four cars in and he's inside chowing down. car just sitting there, running with nobody in it. shouldnt he be... working?


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: PaperPusher ()
Date: September 10, 2005 06:15PM

Good to see that Gravis is back on his mission of cleansing the world of those he deems unworthy.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: looking at idiots ()
Date: September 14, 2005 04:35PM

Gravis Wrote:

>
> ive seen worse. i was at IHOP at like 2am and i
> saw a cop just park his cruiser right in the
> parking lot lane, you know, where you drive,
> blocking three or four cars in and he's inside
> chowing down. car just sitting there, running
> with nobody in it. shouldnt he be... working?
>
> unfairfax adaptivetime com
>
> As of 8/27/05 15:52
> My Linux uptime: 53 days, 10 hours, 14 minutes
> Your Windows uptime: pushing two hours



Every once in a while, they do have to eat.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: September 14, 2005 05:30PM

looking at idiots Wrote:
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> Every once in a while, they do have to eat.
>

they can eat... i would prefer they do it on their off time. however, leaving a car running with the head lights on, blocking three or four cars in and taking your sweet ass time just isnt right. i mean, the car was just sitting there blocking anyone from parking in front of the place. if i did such a thing they would give me 400 years in jail.


PaperPusher Wrote:
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> Good to see that Gravis is back on his mission of cleansing the world of those he
> deems unworthy.

i have yet to "[cleanse] the world" of anyone. i dont kill people and i dont post libel like yourself.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Terps ()
Date: September 14, 2005 09:50PM

pgens Wrote:
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> people get busted for this all the time going from
> 29 in cerntreville to stone road by cutting
> through the park and ride lot. Well-deserved
> tickets, too. Many times the assholes fly through
> thre, blocking busses and almost hitting
> commuters.

I used to live on Stonepath and that shit would piss me
off. I'm glad the cops bust those who cut through.



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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: PaperPusher ()
Date: September 15, 2005 11:50AM

so sue me

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Hemsk ()
Date: September 20, 2005 10:01PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> they can eat... i would prefer they do it on their
> off time.

So, you would prefer that they don't eat for the entire 10+ hours that they are working?

Do you take any breaks to eat while you work?

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: September 21, 2005 05:26AM

Hemsk Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > they can eat... i would prefer they do it on
> their
> > off time.
>
> So, you would prefer that they don't eat for the
> entire 10+ hours that they are working?
>
> Do you take any breaks to eat while you work?

if they are working 10+ hour shifts that is fine, you make a good point. however, parking right in front of the place, blocking in cars, burning gas, in the way of other cars trying to park, and leaving their squad car completely unattended is just flat out irresponsible.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Hemsk ()
Date: September 21, 2005 09:57PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> if they are working 10+ hour shifts that is fine,
> you make a good point. however, parking right in
> front of the place, blocking in cars, burning gas,
> in the way of other cars trying to park, and
> leaving their squad car completely unattended is
> just flat out irresponsible.

I don't dispute that at all. I can understand the need to stay in the car if the department wants them to stay ready to be dispatched to a priority call, but they should be out of the way in a parking space.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Chris ()
Date: October 09, 2005 04:38AM

Ok, most PDs run 12 hour shifts and some run 8. There are no lunch breaks. I agree with not parking behind other vehicles and blocking them in, but if a cop parks in a fire lane and the place they are in catches on fire, they will get the call on their radios and probably move their vehicles. Chill out Good Samaritan.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: mess2521 ()
Date: July 11, 2013 05:33PM

Yea I got a ticket for it to the funny thing is that the rat bastard that acused me of it wasn't near me that's why he called it in pled not guilty in court today.honestly hope all those rat bastards crash and die

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Informed Source ()
Date: July 11, 2013 06:28PM

Chris Wrote:
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> Ok, most PDs run 12 hour shifts and some run 8.
> There are no lunch breaks.

But yet they're we always see them eating in their cars or sleeping on top of the parking garages in the area.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Been There ()
Date: July 11, 2013 08:21PM

I got popped for this 20 years ago: "Evasion of a Traffic Control Device".

I'd been stuck behind a drunk doing 15 MPH under the speed limit for the last few miles, and I clipped through a gas station to get around him.

Paid the ticket, and done. Since then, I can't count how many people I've seen slow down in front of a gas pump so that they could claim they didn't like the price, or some-such.

I'm skeptical about an Officer faulting you if you actually went to Starbucks. If true, post his name... I'm sure he's written a LOT of bogus tickets.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: 7 Mary 3 ()
Date: July 12, 2013 12:03PM

On the surface it may seem innocuous at first. However, it's stupid, dangerous to blow through a parking lot or a gas station or a shopping center/strip mall to avoid stopping at a red light. You arrogant people can't wait like the rest of us?

Unless it's an emergency there's no need to be reckless and endanger the someone because you are in a hurry.

If you wanna break the rules go right ahead...but save the tears and our time by not bitching about what a moron you are because you got caught.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: bank ()
Date: July 12, 2013 01:59PM

I am suprised the police don't regularly sit in the lot of the bank at the corner of Burke Lake Road and Rolling Road waiting for this violation. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Same Mindset ()
Date: July 12, 2013 02:13PM

These are the same assholes who blow by in the right turn only lane and then merge left at the last second. You can hit my car but I'm not letting you in.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Read the date ()
Date: July 12, 2013 02:38PM

You guys realize that this is an 8 year old thread. Why do you feel the need to post on it? Have you grown up since then?

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: answers to the questions ()
Date: July 13, 2013 07:29AM

Read the date Wrote:
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> You guys realize that this is an 8 year old
> thread. Why do you feel the need to post on it?
> Have you grown up since then?

Post proof the law no longer exists or STFU. They still feed YOU even though you are slightly older than eight.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 13, 2013 09:35AM

7 Mary 3 Wrote:
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> On the surface it may seem innocuous at first.
> However, it's stupid, dangerous to blow through a
> parking lot or a gas station or a shopping
> center/strip mall to avoid stopping at a red
> light.

Three times that I saw this charge in court, not one involved someone driving through some private property to avoid the light. Two involved people changing lanes (turn to straight or vice versa) when light changed and the third involved someone going through the light and making a legal U-turn. On each the cop said no traffic impact meaning nobody had to take evasive action as a result of the driver's actions. Two resulted in convictions; the third was dismissed.

Common denominator on all three involved younger drivers and occurred after 10 p.m. My guess is cops were looking for an excuse to pull someone over and check for DUI.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: carefuldriver ()
Date: July 13, 2013 10:17AM

I have a commuter lot by me that is on a corner with entry/exit on both roads, people cut through to avoid a light and FCPD sometimes sits in there. They watch them come in and go out without stopping, then go grab them.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: FusilliJerry ()
Date: July 13, 2013 10:49AM

This law has been on the books for a ling time now, since the early 90's. Never see it enforced, but it is was put in mainly for folks that rip through corner gas stations.

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Didn't know that ()
Date: August 28, 2019 05:41PM

Bump
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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Recent law ()
Date: August 29, 2019 02:21PM

Op is a liar.
Unless he was pulled over in Arlington county for that shit.
Those men in blue have nothing better to do.
That light on lee highway down the street from cowboy cafe has these scofflaws doing it to access SB glebe

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Op is a liar ()
Date: August 29, 2019 02:40PM

Recent law Wrote: https://youtu.be/hlgM1BRXOAU
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> Op is a liar.
> Unless he was pulled over in Arlington county for
> that shit.
> Those men in blue have nothing better to do.
> That light on lee highway down the street from
> cowboy cafe has these scofflaws doing it to access
> SB glebe


Unless this happened in 2005, you got Bumped.
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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: Fjshaba ()
Date: August 29, 2019 04:47PM

How many of the original posters on here are dead by now?

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Re: getting a ticket for avoiding a stop light.
Posted by: mttmmt ()
Date: August 29, 2019 08:26PM

What kind of homo goes to Starbucks? That's about as left wing a place as you can go to.
Cop probably pulled you over for being a fag and going to a coffee shop.

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