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Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Trail User
()
Date: June 01, 2011 01:49PM
I can't find a source....
This made me wonder...
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/590152.html
The sun sets at different hours throughout the year. This forces cyclists to user the road otherwise, which we all agree is pretty stupid thing to do. Who decides whether this trail is closed? Under what law or statute can it be enforced under?
This made me wonder...
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/590152.html
The sun sets at different hours throughout the year. This forces cyclists to user the road otherwise, which we all agree is pretty stupid thing to do. Who decides whether this trail is closed? Under what law or statute can it be enforced under?
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
fff
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Date: June 01, 2011 01:56PM
The trail is open only during daylight hours.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
ProVallone
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Date: June 01, 2011 01:58PM
Rapist Hispanics patrol all local trails 24/7
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
snowdenscold
()
Date: June 01, 2011 02:02PM
You can't find a source? The article you linked states:
"The W&OD trail is closed after dark for safety. Anyone on the trail after dark is considered to be trespassing. "
"The W&OD trail is closed after dark for safety. Anyone on the trail after dark is considered to be trespassing. "
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
FFFFFFF
()
Date: June 01, 2011 02:03PM
I have never seen signs that indicate that the trail is closed.
Same time, it's a major commuter pathway.... So do we really want cyclists on the roadway (because the trail is closed) at night then?
DOes this logic flow with anyone elsE?
Same time, it's a major commuter pathway.... So do we really want cyclists on the roadway (because the trail is closed) at night then?
DOes this logic flow with anyone elsE?
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Sourceing
()
Date: June 01, 2011 02:16PM
A newsarticle isn't a source. It's media.
I want an authority's decree.
I want an authority's decree.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Ut videam
()
Date: June 01, 2011 02:24PM
Quote
Do not approach animals including horses or pets, before receiving an okay from their owners.
Horses, then pedestrians, receive the right-of-way unless otherwise posted.
Move slowly when the trail is congested or when passing.
Always look ahead for obstacles such as gates potholes and other trail users, etc.
Obey traffic signs.
Do not use the trail after dark.
Avoid areas that may offer concealment to potential assailants.
Cross roads only at designated crossings; look both ways before crossing.
Do not use headphones at a high volume.
http://www.nvrpa.org/park/w_od_railroad/content/be_aware
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
waitamin
()
Date: June 01, 2011 05:46PM
snowdenscold Wrote:
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> You can't find a source? The article you linked
> states:
>
> "The W&OD trail is closed after dark for safety.
> Anyone on the trail after dark is considered to be
> trespassing. "
That's a Loundoun County article.
Ut videam Wrote:
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> Do not approach animals including horses or pets,
> before receiving an okay from their owners.
> Horses, then pedestrians, receive the
> right-of-way unless otherwise posted.
> Move slowly when the trail is congested or
> when passing.
> Always look ahead for obstacles such as gates
> potholes and other trail users, etc.
> Obey traffic signs.
> Do not use the trail after dark.
> Avoid areas that may offer concealment to
> potential assailants.
> Cross roads only at designated crossings; look
> both ways before crossing.
> Do not use headphones at a high volume.
>
> http://www.nvrpa.org/park/w_od_railroad/content/be
> _aware
Is that a recommendation or a law? It's recommended that I look both ways before I cross the street, but it's not a law. If I get hit when I cross, it's my problem.
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> You can't find a source? The article you linked
> states:
>
> "The W&OD trail is closed after dark for safety.
> Anyone on the trail after dark is considered to be
> trespassing. "
That's a Loundoun County article.
Ut videam Wrote:
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> Do not approach animals including horses or pets,
> before receiving an okay from their owners.
> Horses, then pedestrians, receive the
> right-of-way unless otherwise posted.
> Move slowly when the trail is congested or
> when passing.
> Always look ahead for obstacles such as gates
> potholes and other trail users, etc.
> Obey traffic signs.
> Do not use the trail after dark.
> Avoid areas that may offer concealment to
> potential assailants.
> Cross roads only at designated crossings; look
> both ways before crossing.
> Do not use headphones at a high volume.
>
> http://www.nvrpa.org/park/w_od_railroad/content/be
> _aware
Is that a recommendation or a law? It's recommended that I look both ways before I cross the street, but it's not a law. If I get hit when I cross, it's my problem.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Ut videam
()
Date: June 01, 2011 05:48PM
waitamin Wrote:
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> Is that a recommendation or a law? It's
> recommended that I look both ways before I cross
> the street, but it's not a law. If I get hit when
> I cross, it's my problem.
It's under "Rules." You figure it out.
EDIT: It's posted on the signs at the trail. As I understand it, that means you can be cited for trespassing if you're there after dark.
http://www.hmdb.org/PhotoFullSize.asp?PhotoID=6778
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2011 05:53PM by Ut videam.
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> Is that a recommendation or a law? It's
> recommended that I look both ways before I cross
> the street, but it's not a law. If I get hit when
> I cross, it's my problem.
It's under "Rules." You figure it out.
EDIT: It's posted on the signs at the trail. As I understand it, that means you can be cited for trespassing if you're there after dark.
http://www.hmdb.org/PhotoFullSize.asp?PhotoID=6778
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2011 05:53PM by Ut videam.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
waitaminagain
()
Date: June 01, 2011 05:51PM
Ut videam Wrote:
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> waitamin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is that a recommendation or a law? It's
> > recommended that I look both ways before I
> cross
> > the street, but it's not a law. If I get hit
> when
> > I cross, it's my problem.
>
> It's under "Rules." You figure it out.
Not so fast. It's under "Rules & Safety" THEN under "Be AWare." Not necessarily a rule.
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> waitamin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is that a recommendation or a law? It's
> > recommended that I look both ways before I
> cross
> > the street, but it's not a law. If I get hit
> when
> > I cross, it's my problem.
>
> It's under "Rules." You figure it out.
Not so fast. It's under "Rules & Safety" THEN under "Be AWare." Not necessarily a rule.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: June 01, 2011 05:52PM
it's kinda common sense seeing as the trail isnt lit or anything
when have you EVER been to a park without lights that allows you to be there after dusk?
it's a liability issue, plain and simple
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2011 05:52PM by Gordon Blvd.
when have you EVER been to a park without lights that allows you to be there after dusk?
it's a liability issue, plain and simple
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2011 05:52PM by Gordon Blvd.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
waittwominutes
()
Date: June 01, 2011 05:54PM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> it's kinda common sense seeing as the trail isnt
> lit or anything
>
> when have you EVER been to a park without lights
> that allows you to be there after dusk?
>
> it's a liability issue, plain and simple
True. Personally, I'd never go on the trail after dark. I'm just now curious if it's indeed against the law to walk on the trail at night. There are signs within parks that say "Closed as Dusk." I take that as closing hours, anything after is indeed trespassing. Are those same signs somewhere on the trail?
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> it's kinda common sense seeing as the trail isnt
> lit or anything
>
> when have you EVER been to a park without lights
> that allows you to be there after dusk?
>
> it's a liability issue, plain and simple
True. Personally, I'd never go on the trail after dark. I'm just now curious if it's indeed against the law to walk on the trail at night. There are signs within parks that say "Closed as Dusk." I take that as closing hours, anything after is indeed trespassing. Are those same signs somewhere on the trail?
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Ut videam
()
Date: June 01, 2011 05:57PM
This line from the OP's linked article...
... comes directly out of the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office press release:
http://www.loudoun.gov/controls/speerio/resources/RenderContent.aspx?data=c32668d3185c4f29af4f899c8d642f83&tabid=330&fmpath=%2fDaily+Crime+Report
There you have it.
Quote
The W&OD trail is closed after dark for safety. Anyone on the trail after dark is considered to be trespassing.
... comes directly out of the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office press release:
http://www.loudoun.gov/controls/speerio/resources/RenderContent.aspx?data=c32668d3185c4f29af4f899c8d642f83&tabid=330&fmpath=%2fDaily+Crime+Report
There you have it.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
waitfiveminutes
()
Date: June 01, 2011 06:00PM
Ut videam Wrote:
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> This line from the OP's linked article...
>
> The W&OD trail is closed after dark for safety.
> Anyone on the trail after dark is considered to be
> trespassing.
>
> ... comes directly out of the Loudoun County
> Sheriff's Office press release:
>
> http://www.loudoun.gov/controls/speerio/resources/
> RenderContent.aspx?data=c32668d3185c4f29af4f899c8d
> 642f83&tabid=330&fmpath=%2fDaily+Crime+Report
>
> There you have it.
We just went in a circle here.
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> This line from the OP's linked article...
>
> The W&OD trail is closed after dark for safety.
> Anyone on the trail after dark is considered to be
> trespassing.
>
> ... comes directly out of the Loudoun County
> Sheriff's Office press release:
>
> http://www.loudoun.gov/controls/speerio/resources/
> RenderContent.aspx?data=c32668d3185c4f29af4f899c8d
> 642f83&tabid=330&fmpath=%2fDaily+Crime+Report
>
> There you have it.
We just went in a circle here.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Ut videam
()
Date: June 01, 2011 06:02PM
Holy shit, you're dense. The cops say being on the trail after dark is trespassing. The cops—stay with me here, this is important...
are the people who can fucking cite you for trespassing.
Y'dig?
are the people who can fucking cite you for trespassing.
Y'dig?
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
stoprightthere
()
Date: June 01, 2011 06:03PM
Ut videam Wrote:
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> Holy shit, you're dense. The cops say being on the
> trail after dark is trespassing. The cops—stay
> with me here, this is important...
> are the people who can fucking cite you for
> trespassing.
>
> Y'dig?
AND WHAT THE FUCK DID I SAY ABOVE ABOUT THE ARTICLE COMING FROM LOUDOUN COUNTY. LOUDOUN LAW ISN'T FAIRFAX LAW. UNLESS IT'S A STATE LAW, WE'VE GONE NO WHERE.
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> Holy shit, you're dense. The cops say being on the
> trail after dark is trespassing. The cops—stay
> with me here, this is important...
> are the people who can fucking cite you for
> trespassing.
>
> Y'dig?
AND WHAT THE FUCK DID I SAY ABOVE ABOUT THE ARTICLE COMING FROM LOUDOUN COUNTY. LOUDOUN LAW ISN'T FAIRFAX LAW. UNLESS IT'S A STATE LAW, WE'VE GONE NO WHERE.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Ut videam
()
Date: June 01, 2011 06:10PM
Quote
Park Authority Regulations
The attached regulations are authorized by §15.2-5704(17) of the Code of Virginia. Violations of any of these regulations are punishable as a class four misdemeanor pursuant to the Code of Virginia §15.2-5705. Upon conviction, the penalty is a fine of up to $250 (§18.2-11). Failure to abide by these regulations may also result in violators being prohibited from future use of park property, facilities or services.
Quote
§1.09 Hours of Operation
A. Opening and Closing. No person shall enter a park more than one half hour before sunrise or remain in a park more than one half hour after sunset unless the person is (i) using a lighted facility (as provided for in §1.09(C) below) or specially posted park, (ii) attending a special event permitted by the Park Authority, (iii) is a bonafide renter or camper or (iv) has the express written permission of the Park Authority to be in a park before opening or after closing. If a patron is in a park outside of operating hours in accordance with exceptions (i – iv) above, the patron must leave the park by the closing time posted for the facility, park or event or specified in the permit.
http://www.nvrpa.org/uploads/Files/NVRPARegulations.pdf
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
waitnominutes
()
Date: June 01, 2011 06:13PM
Ok, then that settles it. It appears to be a state wide law.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Clobbersaurus
()
Date: June 01, 2011 06:16PM
If you really think FCPD doesn't enforce similar regulations as LCSO, you're in for a hilarious eye opener if you're on the trail after dark.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Bill N
()
Date: June 01, 2011 07:53PM
waitamin, the W&OD trail isn't a Fairfax County park. It is part of the Northern Virginia Regional Park Authority, a multi-jurisdiction part authority which includes Loudoun and Fairfax. The W&OD park runs through both jurisdictions as well. Understanding this would perhaps have made it easier for you to understand that even though the original information comes from Loudoun the same rules would apply to the Fairfax County portion of the same park.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: June 01, 2011 08:01PM
OMG, Ut! You sooooo made me lol at that! Fucking CLASSIC!!!
OP, if yr lucky if you just get a ticket instead of gangraped if yr on the trail after dark by yrself and without a Roscoe.
OP, if yr lucky if you just get a ticket instead of gangraped if yr on the trail after dark by yrself and without a Roscoe.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Yeah..
()
Date: June 01, 2011 08:18PM
stoprightthere Wrote:
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> Ut videam Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Holy shit, you're dense. The cops say being on
> the
> > trail after dark is trespassing. The
> cops—stay
> > with me here, this is important...
> > are the people who can fucking cite you for
> > trespassing.
> >
> > Y'dig?
>
> AND WHAT THE FUCK DID I SAY ABOVE ABOUT THE
> ARTICLE COMING FROM LOUDOUN COUNTY. LOUDOUN LAW
> ISN'T FAIRFAX LAW. UNLESS IT'S A STATE LAW, WE'VE
> GONE NO WHERE.
Hmm..StopRightThere
Someone is dense X 10E50...
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> Ut videam Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Holy shit, you're dense. The cops say being on
> the
> > trail after dark is trespassing. The
> cops—stay
> > with me here, this is important...
> > are the people who can fucking cite you for
> > trespassing.
> >
> > Y'dig?
>
> AND WHAT THE FUCK DID I SAY ABOVE ABOUT THE
> ARTICLE COMING FROM LOUDOUN COUNTY. LOUDOUN LAW
> ISN'T FAIRFAX LAW. UNLESS IT'S A STATE LAW, WE'VE
> GONE NO WHERE.
Hmm..StopRightThere
Someone is dense X 10E50...
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Lightthedarll
()
Date: June 01, 2011 08:28PM
I dont see so much of a danger issue here.
Ya it's dark but there are tons of bicycle headlights available to mitigate this.
Still would be safer to bike on that trail at night than the roads that parallel it.
By this law, cyclists would turn to motorists and traffic would increase during seasons where rush hour coincided with darkness.
Do we really want more cars (or bikes) on the roads during darktime rush hours?
Ya it's dark but there are tons of bicycle headlights available to mitigate this.
Still would be safer to bike on that trail at night than the roads that parallel it.
By this law, cyclists would turn to motorists and traffic would increase during seasons where rush hour coincided with darkness.
Do we really want more cars (or bikes) on the roads during darktime rush hours?
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Anecdotal evidence
()
Date: June 01, 2011 10:14PM
I've been on the trail plenty of times at night on my bike, including times when cop cars have driven down the trail, and no one has ever said anything to me.
Ergo I can only conclude that white people on expensive bikes are allowed to be on the W&OD after dark QED
Ergo I can only conclude that white people on expensive bikes are allowed to be on the W&OD after dark QED
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
wnrsm
()
Date: June 01, 2011 11:20PM
The Reston trails are full of rape, murder, arson, and rape - even in daylight.
I wouldn't be on the W&OD or Reston trails after dark not because of some unenforced law, but because they're unsafe.
According to the sheriff's office, around 12:41 p.m., Sunday, May 22, a 61-year-old Leesburg woman was riding with a friend on the W&OD Trail when they stopped in the area of mile marker 22 in Sterling. During this time an unknown male walked up to the woman and grabbed her from behind. After the woman screamed, the suspect fled on foot.
http://www.leesburg2day.com/public_safety/article_b48f4c56-8886-11e0-a50c-001cc4c03286.html
And other shenanigans...
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-533566.html
http://www.arlnow.com/2010/03/23/police-issue-wod-trail-warning/
I wouldn't be on the W&OD or Reston trails after dark not because of some unenforced law, but because they're unsafe.
According to the sheriff's office, around 12:41 p.m., Sunday, May 22, a 61-year-old Leesburg woman was riding with a friend on the W&OD Trail when they stopped in the area of mile marker 22 in Sterling. During this time an unknown male walked up to the woman and grabbed her from behind. After the woman screamed, the suspect fled on foot.
http://www.leesburg2day.com/public_safety/article_b48f4c56-8886-11e0-a50c-001cc4c03286.html
And other shenanigans...
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-533566.html
http://www.arlnow.com/2010/03/23/police-issue-wod-trail-warning/
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: June 01, 2011 11:30PM
Why do so many creeps hang out on bike trails? WO&D is like 44 miles of rape and molestation.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2011 11:31PM by eesh.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2011 11:31PM by eesh.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
()
Date: June 01, 2011 11:38PM
I am not sure why anybody would do this. The trail is very isolated in many areas - thick undergrowth for hiding and laying in wait. Long distances and terrain where few people would hear you scream.
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Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: June 01, 2011 11:44PM
I think the OP is one of the rapers and just wants to appear legitimate after dark.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
charles bronson
()
Date: June 02, 2011 07:07AM
Yes trail open after dark but be advised wear a necklace of garlic to ward off evil spirits and such
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
anon
()
Date: June 02, 2011 07:14AM
where is it?
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: June 03, 2011 07:47AM
@wnrsm - that crime happened on a Sunday afternoon, not the middle of the night.
@charles bronson - no effing kidding LoLz - and some silver bullets as well.
@charles bronson - no effing kidding LoLz - and some silver bullets as well.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
peater
()
Date: June 04, 2011 02:08AM
Trail User Wrote:
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> I can't find a source....
> This made me wonder...
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/59
> 0152.html
>
> The sun sets at different hours throughout the
> year. This forces cyclists to user the road
> otherwise, which we all agree is pretty stupid
> thing to do. Who decides whether this trail is
> closed? Under what law or statute can it be
> enforced under?
if you have to ask, you can't afford it.
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> I can't find a source....
> This made me wonder...
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/59
> 0152.html
>
> The sun sets at different hours throughout the
> year. This forces cyclists to user the road
> otherwise, which we all agree is pretty stupid
> thing to do. Who decides whether this trail is
> closed? Under what law or statute can it be
> enforced under?
if you have to ask, you can't afford it.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
AMWAY Rocks
()
Date: June 04, 2011 02:24AM
Why would you want to take the trail after dark? Maybe you got a deathwish? Maybe you'd go there after dark for some Charles Bronson action. Vigilante time.
How do they close the trail? It would be hilarious if they put up chains to close the trails at night to catch some of these hotshit bikers that like to race in the dark.
How do they close the trail? It would be hilarious if they put up chains to close the trails at night to catch some of these hotshit bikers that like to race in the dark.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
AMWAY Rocks
()
Date: June 04, 2011 02:26AM
By the way, I gotta ask. Anyone ever notice the crazy house on the trail between Gallows and Cedar Lane (near Dunn Loring)...on the left as you are traveling toward Gallows? It's got an unfinished pool and a ton of crazy ass items on display. Almost like the back lot for Sanford and Son.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Lights
()
Date: June 04, 2011 11:18AM
The W&OD is lit in Arlington and is open at night there. Once you cross into Fairfax, there are no more lights, and it's officially closed at night. The police seem to have better things to do than hassle bike commuters at night though. The only hazards I've run into at night are the occasional deer that think they own the place.
That junk house is one of my favorite sights on the trail, especially now that Midgetville is all torn down.
That junk house is one of my favorite sights on the trail, especially now that Midgetville is all torn down.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
wnrsm
()
Date: June 04, 2011 11:40AM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @wnrsm - that crime happened on a Sunday
> afternoon, not the middle of the night.
>
> @charles bronson - no effing kidding LoLz - and
> some silver bullets as well.
@Gordon - True, the first one happened on a Sunday afternoon. I believe that it is a safe assumption that it gets more unsafe at night... but the pickins aren't as good :)
The bike trails in Reston are seeing crime in daylight and nighttime now. I only use them during busy daylight times because I usually have my kid with me.
I don't know all the laws. Do they allow people to carry pepper spray around here? I think I can go get my concealed carry permit, but it seems carrying a gun would be a hassle on a bike ride. Time to fire up the Google.
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> @wnrsm - that crime happened on a Sunday
> afternoon, not the middle of the night.
>
> @charles bronson - no effing kidding LoLz - and
> some silver bullets as well.
@Gordon - True, the first one happened on a Sunday afternoon. I believe that it is a safe assumption that it gets more unsafe at night... but the pickins aren't as good :)
The bike trails in Reston are seeing crime in daylight and nighttime now. I only use them during busy daylight times because I usually have my kid with me.
I don't know all the laws. Do they allow people to carry pepper spray around here? I think I can go get my concealed carry permit, but it seems carrying a gun would be a hassle on a bike ride. Time to fire up the Google.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
nightrider
()
Date: June 04, 2011 05:50PM
there are eyes in the woods
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: June 04, 2011 05:53PM
@wnrsm nah, the bike trails are way more safe at night :)
ok, yeah, a safe assumption. And yes, you can carry pepper spray, or any non-lethal defense weapon on yr person - the only crime would be if you used it in a offensive manner against someone not attacking you.
And listen - if you do get a weapon, lethal or non-lethal - LEARN HOW TO USE IT! What I mean is practice using it. Lotsa ppl think they are safe with pepper spray - but never get the chance to use it, or worse, have it used against them when they are disarmed - see what I'm saying?
ok, yeah, a safe assumption. And yes, you can carry pepper spray, or any non-lethal defense weapon on yr person - the only crime would be if you used it in a offensive manner against someone not attacking you.
And listen - if you do get a weapon, lethal or non-lethal - LEARN HOW TO USE IT! What I mean is practice using it. Lotsa ppl think they are safe with pepper spray - but never get the chance to use it, or worse, have it used against them when they are disarmed - see what I'm saying?
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
mgdk
()
Date: April 15, 2012 10:33PM
i came here more curious about a non-lethal weapon carry on the trail. as far as after dark, im on there all the time, as are many riders. loudon to arlington. if you take a good look at that state law, it states "unless using a lighted facility..." there are many lighted facilities along the trail and be smart, carry your own lights/bike-mounted lights. the park rules are definitely recommendations for a safe trip. ride with a friend, always? yeah right. i commute.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
Posted by:
Pedal Power
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Date: April 15, 2012 10:54PM
I ride my bike at night - with the light on - often on the trail. Other cyclists do also, and occasionally I see a pair of horse riders at night. I would not say it's a busy place at night, but there is certainly plenty of activity, including teen romance. No one has ever stopped me to say the park was closed.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
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Pedal Power
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Date: April 15, 2012 10:54PM
I ride my bike at night - with the light on - often on the trail. Other cyclists do also, and occasionally I see a pair of horse riders at night. I would not say it's a busy place at night, but there is certainly plenty of activity, including teen romance. No one has ever stopped me to say the park was closed.
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
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ThePackLeader
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Date: April 15, 2012 11:39PM
eesh Wrote:
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> Why do so many creeps hang out on bike trails?
> WO&D is like 44 miles of rape and molestation.
LOL, I wish I had seen this comment last summer when you posted it. Epic.
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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).
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> Why do so many creeps hang out on bike trails?
> WO&D is like 44 miles of rape and molestation.
LOL, I wish I had seen this comment last summer when you posted it. Epic.
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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
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nite rider
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Date: November 12, 2012 05:21PM
I am gonna ride to arlington from vienna- it's a great nite for a ride!
Re: Is the WO&D trail closed at night?
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cool cat
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Date: November 12, 2012 05:22PM
Hey nite rider- ure pretty cool ! I think that is a great idea, I will join u.