I was on my way home, driving with my windows down and heard screaming. Upon driving closer (shell station across from old Carlos O Kellys) I saw an ice cream truck driving in the opposite direction halfway up on the median with a bike underneath mangled, and then I noticed the biker on the median, there were tons of cars pulled over, and I did call 911. Does anyone know what actually happened completely? and if the biker is ok? And today was national bike to work day. :( People really need to LEARN to share the road, things like this SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING!

Geez, this is the third bike accident I've read about today. Perhaps "Ride your Bike to Work Day" isn't such a good idea.

We need the time & location.

No more Bike To Work Day.

At least not in Nova.

I hope the guy lived.

cyclists and pedestrians need to be more careful when playing out in traffic.

you can bitch and moan all you want about drivers, but at the end of the day, it's the cyclist and pedestrian that is going to get hurt the MOST - so in that reality, they are the ones that need to take extra precautions

there's always going to be that inattentive driver, so you better prepare yourself for that if you intend to be in the street without bumpers, steel, or aluminum around you......................

I'm sure the guy will be ok, since it's not apparently a newsworthy story (a life threatening event would have been on the news by now)

Stop riding your gaywad bicycles on the fucking street, you bunch of jagoffs.

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It was around 7-7:30, on Main Street pretty much right in front of the Main Street Shell

Was the Ice Cream truck ok?

Did he at least get a free Choco Taco?

Was it anything like this...?

I have not seen one in years. I hope that biker has learned his lesson. Don't fuck with the ice cream man.

from what I saw it looked as if the truck didnt look both ways coming out of the shell station on main st and hit the biker, when the biker had the right of way. It was easily one of the more gruesome bike accidents I have ever seen. I hope hes okay, and this really shows who should be driving ice cream trucks. I mean isnt his job to look for pedestrians since thats who he serves?

Can the city get revenue from this somehow? that's my biggest concern

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There was alot of stuff going on at that time. I only heard that he was hit. My scannner was picking up a robbery by Mount Vernon High School.

nothing says friday night like listening to a police scanner

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"gaywad" !?! a fucking classic! i haven't heard that term used since like '82...nice call back! i agree...if these holes want to ride in the streets showing off their "fancy lad" bikes and pretty outfits, then they need to deal with the consequences of dancing with the bulls...i have had it with these asswipes....one of these shitstains screamed at me for simply coming to stop at a intersection while he was crossing in front of me figuring i was gonna pull out on him...thinking back now, i should of...argghh, that damn hindsight always pisses me of even worse

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> pretty outfits, then they need to deal with the
> consequences of dancing with the bulls...

So when you (with the douche bag look on your face) decide to roll thru a Stop sign in front of me in your sissy wad automobile, I will gladly roll over you in my monster truck with my bike and bike rack...

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> roll over you in my monster truck with my bike and
> bike rack...


first of all, why would i run the sign? it's there for a reason fucktard...second...did you say "sissy wad"? that was a horrible attempt at trying to seem cooler than you obviously aren't...it just made me cringe with embarrassment for you..horrible, just horrible...and third...i'm sure you and all your little prancing sissy fem friends think your nissan pathfinders and honda ridglines are really super tough and "monster" but trust, we real truck drivers are all laughing at you and all your attached self-sex gadgets

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Yes, mine does include fully locking differentials and you mother in the back seat, atop my 33" inchers..

So like you are so Coool, I wish I could hang with you - NOT!

I don't know...bike accident happen every day. It just gets more attention on "bike to work day" because it's convenient for you fat fucks to use as a reason to bikes not being on the road. Accidents, actually more like "moron collisions" happen daily. Both with and without bikes.

Using your rational that "bike accidents are caused by bike day" are, at least, subject to your bias, if not false altogether.

By your logic, ice cream trucks should be banned on bike to work day too. Now THAT is something I'm sure your fatass would be in an uproar about.


Totally agree with the sentiments that biking is a dangerous and outgunned competitor in the roadway. However, with due caution its as safe as driving anyways.

didn't anyone learn from this movie...ice cream trucks attacked in it also....it's so RAPTURE time!...run people..run
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men don't hang out with each other...we see each other at the bar, gym, during yard work or when our wifes force us to have dinner with other couples...boys like to dress up in colorful costumes and try to get attention from who they perceive as their competition with all their toys...33's ? wow, you didn't say that before...now i've got respect for you cuz thats what i put on my wifes suburban and she's a hottie head turner...is that what your shoot'n for in your tight little spandex panties you wear..i get it now, your trying to turn on other men...gadgets, tight shiny outfits and chick trucks...i'm sorry, now i get ya...no worries, not bashing here..it's all good...besides, did you throw a mother reference and a "NOT!" in there? i've got this feeling i'm arguing with a 15 year old mind....boring and done

Why do bikers love to ride to Clifton/Fairfax Station on two lane roads? I know the area is beautiful but it is not safe since many of the roads have huge blind spots.

@whytake - because they have the brains of tapioca pudding - and truly believe that their legal right to be a "vehicle" will protect those same tapioca pudding brains from getting smashed into the damn trees or pavement by someone on a cell phone, someone adjusting their radio, someone glancing down to pick up their mp3 player etc.

in other words, cause they think they are invincible and that accidents could never happen to them :(

Why do these bike riders think they are safe while riding in the middle of the street. In this area it isn't even safe to drive a car.

You have soccer moms in huge SUVs texting and turning around in the seat to yell at their brats, mexicans with no insurance, no license and usually no brakes, delivery trucks intent on meeting deadlines, dump trucks with things flying off the back and self important yuppies blazing by in their BMWs.

" I saw an ice cream truck driving in the opposite direction halfway up on the median with a bike underneath mangled, and then I noticed the biker on the median,"

I shouldnt laugh but I did upon reading that description of the accident. Was the rider wearing one of those awful outfits like bright yellow or orange? I can almost hear the ice cream trucks audio system playing nursery rhymes over and over as the biker tended to his wounds.

I honestly hope he wasnt hurt bad.

Accidents happen in any method of transport. It's a risk.

Wether it is your legal right or not, if you ride your bicycle on the street in traffic lanes, you are 1. obstructing traffic, 2. putting your life at risk 3. putting other lives at risk as cars cross into oncoming lanes to go around you. Keep your stupid bicycle and your silly tiny shorts on one of the many trails and paths in the area, you selfish pricks!!!

I don't know about this particular situation, but I get fucking tired of cyclists wanting the rights of both vehicles and pedestrians at the same time. You stop for fucking stop signs and red lights, assholes! And don't give the fucking "look" when you fuck up and I nearly hit your sorry ass! Just be glad I didn't run you over because the law would be on MY SIDE!

Stupid pricks.

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Move out west if you want to be a bike nazi.

No one's life is at risk if you use due regard. Passing into oncoming lanes when there at cars coming at you, in order to move around a cyclist, you are creating a dangerous situation. The law stipulates that you wait for the clear and then proceed. What's so hard to understand about this? Silly little shorts? Seriously... You're gonna hate on someone for attire? Grow up, let go of your child like manners and share the road per the law. The road is only dangerous of you allow it to be, cyclist or vehicular.

Completely agree wit the above post... Many cyclists do stop at signs and lights, and it's the ones who don't who cause a bad rep. But are you as mad at other vehicle drivers who do the exact same thing? Does it cause the same response? It should, otherwise you're a prick.

Your life is at risk no matter if your healthy ass is on a bike or your fatass is in your explorer. The rate of icidence is the same. Argument voided.

How long do you imagine that I'm going to tag along behind you on your idiotic bicycle waiting to pass you when you're going 3 mph? Answer: NOT ONE FUCKING SECOND! Get out of the way, you selfish prick!!!

Pbike, these folks are just trolls without a driver's license. When they get around to wanting a license, they will have to review some information at the DMV. Here are a few noble excerpts from the Virginia Driver’s Manual:

"Driving is a privilege, not a right. Your driver’s license carries with it a great responsibility to be courteous of other drivers on the roadways and follow state and federal motoring laws.

"Every time you get behind the wheel, you accept responsibility for your actions. You must obey Virginia’s traffic laws, and ensure the safety of you, your passengers, and other motorists, pedestrians and bicyclists on the roadways.

"Bicycles: Bicycles are considered vehicles and have the same right-of-way as motor vehicles. Bicyclists are also expected to obey the same traffic rules and regulations as vehicle drivers; however, many are children who may not know or obey the rules. Slow down when you approach bicyclists. Give them plenty of room when passing and be prepared to stop suddenly. Look for bicycles on all public roads."

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/webdoc/pdf/dmv39.pdf

@ neville - yeah, that's GREAT in theory - but that belief really sucks in practice. I mean, if I in my car dont prepare to "stop suddenly" for a cyclist, I'm not the one getting hurt from it.

Driving is a privilege in a car. On a bike, your LIFE becomes the privilege.

@ Pbike - you are an idiot if you think that you are just as safe on a bike on Northern VA roads as you are in an Explorer................a complete idiot if you seriously think that.

Bicycles: Bicycles are considered vehicles and have the same right-of-way as motor vehicles. Bicyclists are also expected to obey the same traffic rules and regulations as vehicle drivers...

... by which standard, they should be ticketed if and when they impede the flow of traffic.



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The score is now Motor Vehicle 17, Bicycles 0.

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You do realize that this type of hatred of cyclists is what you see in the deep south dont you? It's funny that Gordon and a few others desperately try to draw borders around "northern" VA to distance themselves from the south, but why dont you just face the fact that you are just as ignorant? HA HA HA HA HA!

yeah, cause drivers LOVE cyclists up in Philly, NYC and Boston............

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/03/30/philadelphia-officials-consider-bike-lanes-for-north-south-streets/

http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-34998.html

http://bostonbiker.org/tag/stupid/


ppl ALL OVER feel the same way about stupid cyclists - just read the comments section

HA HA HA HA HA yrself, Mr/Ms. Ignorant..................

http://youtu.be/auIntJIMmYI

Ummm, that first link is actually advocating bike lanes because it creates a safer environment and the other two articles are extremely old. Nice try though!









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@Yeah:

So this is a "who had the Right of Way" argument?
Nope. I'd rather be wrong than Dead Right like dude in the shorts.

Trust me, I understand the physics of a 2+ton vehicle impacting a 250lbs cyclist. More than you realize actually. The reality is 99 percent of drivers are actually pretty good with bikes and don't have an issue. It's youfew Internet warriors who get all pissed off about bikers shorts that flame this. If you don't like that Virginia considers bicycles vehicles, then change and amend the law, that's how things work in this country. In this case the biker wasnt on 66 or 495. How fast should cars be going on main street in Vienna? A cycle can avate those same speeds easily, and do not impede traffic in tha case. I agree that turtle slow bikers do no belong on single lane roads with speeds beyond their ability but that's bow every road in Fairfax.

People "all over" don't feel the same way a select few who decide to post online. It's not like people who dont mind cycles are going to go through the effort of going online and saying so. Its you mal adjusted freaks who do that. And myself included.


This year: how many deaths from cycle vs vehicle?
Compare that to car vs car or car vs object? Tell me again which one is more dangerous?

Easy enough to settle - Take a quick poll somewhere where there are 10 - 20 people around. Work, a bar, Starbucks, whatever. If you think most of those people are not annoyed by bicyclists in the street, you will quickly see how wrong you are. So do that and get back to us.

@ Pbike - even in backed up Vienna traffic, I often beat the cyclists that I see (and it's Maple Ave, not "main street") and you are nuts if you think 99 percent of drivers are "actually pretty good with bikes", but I digress to jagoffs on that one - try his polling method and maybe you'll learn that.

Alson on yr car v cycle "deaths" argument, we'd have to factor in number of bikers v number of auto drivers, and also SPEED of said vehicles, since you yourself brought up earlier "In this case the biker wasnt on 66 or 495." In other words, not too many drivers (i.e. nobody) are dying at the maximum speed your bike can go - however, cyclists tend to die in low speed accidents. Just fact.

Ok, I just did. They all said it was cool.

Happy?
What a retarded mother fuck. Most people are aware and accept the bikes on the road. They give due caution, and they help make this world safe and sane. You're upset about being behind a cyclist because it slows you down? What...10mph less for about 10 seconds? If you're running that far behind schedule in your life, you are already a fucked up disaster. You're not losing anything besides your composure in all of this. Chill the fuck out, give a few feet when it's safe to pass (which it will be in a moment or two after coming upon a cyclist), and help out the world.

Side note: all vehicles need to be ready to stop for any reason while operating. Whether it's a bicycle, school zone, work zone, or the usual 66eb in the morning

@ yeah - did you even read the comments section of that Philly article?

my point was that you were full of bullshit thinking it's only the South that hates bikers, my friend. Y'all are hated across the country for yr hypocritical bullshit

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8eb_1179125551

violent drivers o_0


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=450_1217109580

peaceful protesting cyclists rights................


in other words, cyclists tend to be assholes



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My wife and I were some of the first people on the scene of the accident. I am not sure the extent of the 24 year old's injuries, but can imagine from the tire tracks on his back and blood on the pavement that they were significant. Unbelievable some of the comments I am seeing here. What if this was your son or brother? He asked us to call his dad for him.. maybe he didnt think he was going to make it.

Challenge:
Substantiate your claims with with actual facts supported by research

Cyclists tend to be assholes? An drivers aren't? Or the guy in the grocery store who brings 20 items to the 10 item express? Or the guy in the right hand "x" lane of 66? "ten to be assholes" is an opinion, and probably one you got from when you walked in on your mom giving a biker a
Rimjob

@winlock - I would know not to come here for comfort or understanding, that's for sure.....................that's kinda like sticking your right arm in a blast furnace or a lawn mower to get rid of an itch.

Again, we arent trashing the individual, we are trashing ALL silly cyclists who are ultimately putting themselves in danger EVERYTIME they venture out into a Northern Virginia roadway without being COMPLETELY aware of their surroundings at ALL TIMES!

Same as pedestrians - if you are in the roadway, you CANNOT CANNOT CANNOT let your guard down for a SINGLE SECOND! Even if you have legal right of way

Because the worst that most drivers will get is a ticket. And that's only if he/she's in the wrong, which we dont know yet in this case. Whereas the cyclist has tire tracks on his back - something TOTALLY not worth any amount of satisfaction knowing you have "right of way"................

He had tire tracks on his back, and yet was communicative enough to ask you to call someone for him?
Forgive me if I'm having trouble swallowing this..

@oc - in all fairness, those tire tracks were probably from an earlier accident
LoLz

he was screaming/moaning like a wounded animal with smashed internal organs and it took him several tries to tell us the number.

or maybe you're right, i'm just making the whole thing up for the lucrative benefit of posting to the fairfax blog.

Agreed. Full time and attention is required on all parties in any venue of travel.
In this specific incident, the vienna cyclist was not injured. A "mangled" bike is common in any type of collision, so it doesn't accurately reflect the severity of a crash. Cyclists are up and down vienna's "main" street (agreed, it's fucking maple for christ's safe) without difficulty or incident on a daily basis. Why? Because common accepted practices actually exist where cyclists participate with autos on the roadway in an mostly-agreeable manner.

@pbike - I'm anal about road names...........so sue me :)
@winlock - you are sticking yr hand in the lawn mower again :(

@ everybody - look, nobody wants a cyclist to get hurt (yeah it,s funny on the interweb, but in real life, not so much)

we ALL have to "share the road", as they say

but the biker hate comes about for two reasons
a) we drivers dont see cyclists "sharing" when they are going all slow in front of us. That's "TAKING" - taking our time from us, making us slow down. Not sharing, at all. We'd feel the same way about ANY slow-moving vehicle, be it bicycle or farm tractor, or old person in a Buick. It's just we see cyclists do it more in this region

b) I've seen maybe two cyclists all year stop for a red light. Nuff Said.

So that's why. WE just dont see y'all as sharing the road, either - yet y'all act like it's only drivers being bitches on the streets. So that's why all this hate.

Ok, I gotta run - y'all gather yourselves into Study Groups and discuss :)

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> the 24 year old's injuries, but can imagine from
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> pavement that they were significant. Unbelievable
> some of the comments I am seeing here. What if
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> his dad for him.. maybe he didnt think he was
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Why did you not take pics? What a waste of an opportunity.

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

Running red lights is now legal for bicycles, given they apply due regard and do so only when safe.

Lights don't change for bicycles, they're not heavy enough. It isn't sensible to stay at a red light until another vehicle shows up to trip the sensor.

This change has allowed cyclists to cross a red light legally. So you can stop bitching about how it's wrong. OR, go change the law back.

I feel horrible about that poor dude who got injured. My point is, HE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN RIDING A BICYCLE IN TRAFFIC. Had ne not been riding a bicycle in traffic, he'd be fine this morning. Let's wait the six months - year it takes him to recover and ask him his opinion on riding a bicycle in traffic.

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Jagoff,
your logic makes no sense to me.
Of COURSE he would be fine if he wasn't biking.
OF COURSE nothing would happen if we all did nothing to begin with.
When you get in a car accident, should you not have been driving? Is the act of the cause of the consequence ALL the time?
Maybe the ice cream truck driver shouldn't be driving. Maybe it's HIS fault? Maybe it's ice cream truck drivers who are the cause of bicycle accidents? Do you hear how silly that sounds?
You probably are the same kind of person who wants to ban guns whenever there's a shooting publicized.

Life is full of risks. Biking "in traffic" has different meanings for different people. Commuting on bike in rush hour on 495 is insane, and that's obviously going to get you killed. Biking down main/maple in vienna during the same isn't such a big deal, given how traffic is packed and generally slow there. There's not a significant risk. There'd be ZERO risk if all operators obeyed the law, gave due regard, and drove without thinking they're transporting a donated organ to a hospital for a transplant.

Yesterday a teenage girl was texting while driving in front of me. We came to a light and she kept texting. The light turned green and I had to honk my horn to get her to pay attention. At the next light I rolled down my widow while I was next to her and yelled at her to STOP texting.

Do you want to ride your bike with shit heads like these on the roads?

Good luck and and buy extra life insurance for your family!

What type of ice cream was in the truck? Were there those yummie drumsticks with the nuts on top?
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No, it is not legal to run a red.

House Bill 1981 will let motorcyclists, moped riders and bicyclists pass through red lights, as long as there is no oncoming traffic, after waiting 120 seconds or two cycles of the light.

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Many bikers do not have common sense. I can't tell you how many I see going straight from a position to the right of a car in a right-hand-turn lane. How dumb would that be if you were in a car, riding up a sidewalk or shoulder to go straight there?

Car drivers have to mind bicyclists, but bicyclists have the same responsibility to obey traffic laws when on the road.

Dear Pbike, Okay, we get it. You're gonna ride your bicycle in traffic no matter what, and that's your right. See you out there.

@Pinhead - yeah, like cyclists wait for that crap, y'know? - I know the ones I see dont wait no two minutes, that's for sure.

@Biking - I'm sure you made a HUGE impression on her for yelling at her LoLz

@PBIke - commuting on 495 is illegal. You do know that, right?

@ Jagoffs - I dont say he shouldnt have been riding in traffic - I'm just saying IF he was doing so, he should have been more aware of his surroundings - and THAT'S what could have saved his ass from having tire marks all across his backside.

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frigg'n hilarious...i've been quoting that shit for a week now...whats cool is that nobody but my wife catches it and she starts balling out in front of people...it's like our own little inside joke...for now...

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nice...you caught me off guard and made me giggle

to all...i also feel horrible for this kid...not a biker hater here...hater of ignorant and arrogant self rightious pricks is what i am...and yeah, there will always be the few who make the others look bad...hoping for his quick and full recovery

I seriously cannot believe the callous nature of my fellow citizens!

Exactly what makes you think its funny to make fun of someone in a serious accident.

You are risking massive damage to your karma.

Bicyclists have the same rights to the road as motorists.

I ride my bike on main st all the time and as an adult I don't see it a problem to take up 3 feet of a 15 foot lane.

Bikers are more healthy, richer and greener than motorists.

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Ohhh...Here goes the elitism. I hope they were able dig the teeth of your bike friend from between the treads of the ice cream truck.

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@Pinhead - it's that elitism that helps feeds the hatred of cyclists in general

talk about Karma.......................good work, Dr J.

Looks like this lady didn't like them either.

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-cyclists-struck-culver-city,0,247774.story

Bikers are riding like idiots this time of year. I was driving this morning and a group of Armstrong wannabees almost biked into my path, in the road, illegally in an area where the street was closed to vehicles where they popped out from. No wonder they get hit and injured.

I saw one assclown biker this morning almost get plowed on the Ffx Parkway as he decided not to stop at the crosswalk (with the cross traffic having a green light). Fucking idiot. Didn't even slow down.

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Some roads are too congested or high-speed to cycle safely, Maple Ave. and FFX County Pkwy are two that jump immediately to mind. But there are others that are just as dangerous without being congested - Oakton Road for example.

In 1985 I was driving my Jeep CJ-7 down Oakton Road at 35mph, slowed to 25mph around a blind curve - blind because that stretch was thickly wooded and I couldn't see around it. Once halfway through the curve, immediately in front of me appeared two young girls on their bicycles coming towards me, one in the left lane and the other in the right. There was nowhere for me to swerve to avoid them except for bailing out into the woods, which I instinctively did.

Too late, though, I hit the one girl in "my" right lane as I decelerated to a stop among the sapplings on the edge of the road. The bike absorbed the impact, but hurled the girl backwards about 15-20 feet. Another motorist came by soon and hailed the paramedics. The girl lay in the road, and I talked to her, telling her not to move. She was taken to Commonwealth Hospital, and I followed to check on her condition, too. The young girl wound up with nothing more than scratches on the back of her head, that's it - thank God!

While I encourage cycling as much as possible, and am blessed with some wide-laned, nearby roads that are not heavily congested on which to commute, I also strongly discourage the use of many other roads for obvious safety reasons. Even so, on the good roads I cycle, I have the sense to wear bright clothes for improved visibility.

To the bikers:

Haw-haw!!!!!!!!

Learn the rules of the road morons. Follow the same rules that the folks in cars have to and incidents like these would be less likely to happen.

so I'm in DC last night going to make a right turn somewhere when all of a sudden one of those bikers that I'm supposed to share the road with blows right by me ON THE RIGHT SIDE - almost killed the poor girl - and I had my turn signal on and everything - so tell me, how come they are never supposed to share the road, eh?

And to all you cyclist a-holes on Stuart Mill Rd - you know you are SUPPOSED TO a)YIELD RIGHT OF WAY TO ONCOMING TRAFFIC AT THE ONE LANE BRIDGE! and b) STOP FOR THE FUCKING STOP SIGN AT BIRDFOOT LANE!!!

it's stuff like this that just adds to a driver's contempt for bikers >:(

Strongly endorse Gordon Blvd’s words. Everyone should obey the law.

By the way, I’d like to personally praise Gordon Blvd’s excellence in driving. Never seen bad behavior from him. From what I've seen:

He doesn’t speed.
He always turns into the nearest lane, and then signals and checks before moving over.
He always signals his turns and lane changes properly at least 100 feet before execution.
He always stops completely behind the marked line at stop signs and red lights.
He stops for yellow lights.
He carefully yields or stops for pedestrians and bicycle riders at crosswalks.
He never honks his horn except when appropriate as a reasonable warning to other road users, because he recognizes, with a great deal of humanity, that not every person on the road is so much above average as he.
He never uses a cell phone or smokes or eats or drinks or applies his makeup or touches himself inappropriately in his moving vehicle.
When a bicycle rider has the right of way, he yields to him.
He even knows Fairfax and Virginia Code by paragraph number.

Thanks Stevarino, for all you do! You’re a model driver and inspiration to us all. You are indeed worthy of the most fulsome praise.

I'm ALWAYS touching myself inappropriately behind the wheel - what are you talking about? :)

seriously, I tried not speeding when I got back from out west............and ppl SERIOUSLY didnt seem to take to kindly to that, so I got with the program. Other than that, yeah, I'm pretty much a model driver. +3 or something like that. And yeah, the stick-thingee on the side of the steering wheel - I use that.
Stopping for a yellow is something you do ONLY if you havent gotten to the intersection before it turns red. You can and SHOULD go thru it if you can clear the intersection:

Steady amber indicates that a change is about to be made in the direction of the moving of traffic. When the amber signal is shown, traffic which has not already entered the intersection, including the crosswalks, shall stop if it is not reasonably safe to continue, but traffic which has already entered the intersection shall continue to move until the intersection has been cleared. The amber signal is a warning that the steady red signal is imminent. (VA Code 46.2-833.)

Also yeah, some of us are able to see that BIG WHITE LINE in the road and know what it means. You stop there, look around, and then if you want to, you can creep forward a little if you feel you need to before continuing into the intersection.

IT'S NOT BRAIN SURGERY

p.s. per my previous rant, I have to yield right of way to cyclists even when THEY DONT HAVE RIGHT OF WAY since I really dont want their life juice staining my car................still want to smack some common sense back into their skulls tho.............

who the heck is stevarino?

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> Because the worst that most drivers will get is a
> ticket. And that's only if he/she's in the wrong,
> which we dont know yet in this case. Whereas the
> cyclist has tire tracks on his back - something
> TOTALLY not worth any amount of satisfaction
> knowing you have "right of way"................

So true...

Good enuff reason for me to even quit riding my motorcycle in NOVA, this was even before the texting craziness began.

I now drive my '97 full size SUV to the trails and ride a bicycle on the trails.