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Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: GoodNews ()
Date: April 13, 2011 06:48PM

Last Saturday, I went to the local Baskin Robbins (Brandon Ave one) and asked if I could apply their. The manager (didn't know he was the manager at the time) said he wanted my name and number and also said that he'll call in 2-3 days. He also asked me how old I was and where I live. Therefore, I did what I was told. After today, I realized I never got a call and should call back instead. I called and he picked up and said that I should come to the store. Right there at the spot, he asked questions like "Do you have a passport or green card?" I answered with passport. Afterwards, he said on-the-spot "Tomorrow, come before 5 p.m. and bring your passport, ID, and social security. I can also give you your schedule." This got me quite excited, for this is my first job ever. But what I found odd was that I didn't have to fill out an application whatsoever, yet he still wants to hire me. This, obviously, is great news though. He also didn't ask for me to bring a work permit either! I researched for quite a bit and found out that you MUST have a work permit at my age. But since the manager didn't ask for one, do I truly need to get one and bring it to him? Thanks guys!

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: turkey butt ()
Date: April 13, 2011 07:13PM

naw, your cool kid. just show up, show him your shit...he will most likely make you sign some papers on the spot...then you can start scoopin some damn ice cream

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: ShouldButNO ()
Date: April 13, 2011 07:48PM

Right to work permits are good to have, but most places will over look them. Chances are this manager doesn't even know what one is. Once you sign the papers and work you'll get a W2. No place on the W2 does it say how old you are.

Isn't a right to work permit just a piece of paper signed be your parents? I wouldn't worry about it.

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: ShouldButNO ()
Date: April 13, 2011 07:53PM

Right to work permits came from sweat shops in the early 1900's. They were trying to stop 8-16 year old kids from being forced to work 14 hour days in industrial factories in unsanitary conditions.

Working in an Ice Cream store of your own free will dishing out scoops after school would be an entirely different situation.

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: GoodNews ()
Date: April 13, 2011 08:03PM

ShouldButNO Wrote:
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> Right to work permits came from sweat shops in the
> early 1900's. They were trying to stop 8-16 year
> old kids from being forced to work 14 hour days in
> industrial factories in unsanitary conditions.
>
> Working in an Ice Cream store of your own free
> will dishing out scoops after school would be an
> entirely different situation.

All right, so in this case I don't have to? But from what I read online, it says you MUST have a work permit in order to work at my age. Heres are some links:

http://www.doli.virginia.gov/laborlaw/laborlaw_faqs_childlaborlawp1.html
http://www.doli.virginia.gov/laborlaw/laborlaw_childworkpermits1.html
http://www.hanovercareers.org/child_labor_laws.htm

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: Legal Worker ()
Date: April 13, 2011 08:13PM

I read the OP and simply thought "Be careful, kid - GET the paperwork from the shop BEFORE working".

For some reason it just feels not quite right - worst case would be hourly unrecorded work with cash paid (below minimum wage).

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: GoodNews ()
Date: April 13, 2011 08:34PM

Legal Worker Wrote:
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> I read the OP and simply thought "Be careful, kid
> - GET the paperwork from the shop BEFORE
> working".
>
> For some reason it just feels not quite right -
> worst case would be hourly unrecorded work with
> cash paid (below minimum wage).

Paperwork?? From what people are saying, the manager will most likely give me the paperwork tomorrow since he wants me to bring my passport and all! :/ And below minimum wage? Dang...

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: thanks ()
Date: April 13, 2011 09:38PM

Thank you for the name of the business and where it is located. Yes you do have to have a work permit. All 14 and 15 year olds do. !6 and over no. You can get a work permit at your high school. I do it everyday for kids. I will let the state know about this place hiring kids without permits.

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 13, 2011 09:43PM

You only need a work permit if you are going to work longer than 18 hour days, duh.

You should be happy to have a job, why try to complicate things with all this bureaucratic nonsense and red tape?


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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: check info ()
Date: April 13, 2011 09:48PM

No WingNut all 14 and 15 year olds have to have a work permit. Get your information correct.

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: April 13, 2011 09:51PM

He probably wants to roger you behind the ice cream freezer.

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Border Security is CHEAPER Than Wars
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 13, 2011 10:13PM

check info Wrote:
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> No WingNut all 14 and 15 year olds have to have a
> work permit. Get your information correct.

Fuck that.

Let the kid and his employers take their chances. It's fucking pansies and rule abiding leg riders like you that obstruct progress and gainful employment.

Give the kid a chance.


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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: GoodNews ()
Date: April 13, 2011 10:15PM

All right, then, according to most of you, you DO need a work permit to work at this place.

Plan is:
I guess, tomorrow after school, I'll visit the school career center, ask them for a work permit, sign the stuff I need, take it to the manager, have him sign all of it, and bring it back to school on Friday.

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: rethink ()
Date: April 13, 2011 10:18PM

You dumb ass. No one is keeping him from getting employed. He/She needs to just do it right. Go to their high school and apply for a work permit. Not hard, does not cost any money. It is just following the rules and regulations. Virtues we want to instill in our youth.

Don't worry I will let the state know the place that is hiring kids without permits.

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 13, 2011 10:34PM

If the kids employers tell him, he needs one, get one. If not, don't fuck up a job opportunity by insisting on one, unless they want you to untangle powerlines or do something really sketchy. Try to work under the table when possible too, you are going get paid shit, you may as well try to maximize what you take home.


Rethink, does it feel good to be a snitch? 14 or 15 is no time to be learning the "virtue" of following the rules to the tee. The kid needs to recognize he has balls and that he has to use them in this world to go anywhere.


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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: rethink ()
Date: April 13, 2011 10:43PM

Telling someone to be paid under the table is real good advice. Why you give some good advice that would last a life time.

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 13, 2011 11:12PM

Youth unemployment hits 25% and is expected to rise.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42572175

Give the young fellow a job as a chimney sweep, it'd be better than having a dishrag of an father like you.

In these times, he should choose work over weenie regulations and the scared faggotry you are promoting.

Give the kid a chance.


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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: solomon thomas ()
Date: July 17, 2013 11:02AM

I NEED AN JOB PERMIT AND IM 14 I NEED AN JOB TO GET MONEY AND HELP MY GAND MOTHER OUTT WITH BILLS

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: 93hN4 ()
Date: July 17, 2013 11:51AM

solomon thomas Wrote:
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> I NEED AN JOB PERMIT AND IM 14 I NEED AN JOB TO
> GET MONEY AND HELP MY GAND MOTHER OUTT WITH BILLS


First off- stay in school and work extra hard in English Class.

Second- go to your guidance counselors- they will point you in the right direction. Or- if you can catch a ride out to manassas....


From (i added stars to quickly see address and phone):

http://testffx.fairfaxcounty.gov/rim/servicedetail.asp?orgrsn=121&orgname=VIRGINIA+DEPARTMENT+OF+LABOR+AND+INDUSTRY&svcname=WORK+PERMITS+-+TEENS+%2814-15%29&svcrsn=3754&locrsn=1490


Service : WORK PERMITS - TEENS (14-15)
Organization : VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND INDUSTRY
SERVICE DESCRIPTION
Work permits for 14 and 15 year olds in Virginia are available through the child's school. If the child is not enrolled in a public school, the permit is available at the school nearest to the potential place of employment. There are minimum and maximum work hour limits that are allowed for 14-15 year olds. NOTE: 16 and 17 year olds are barred from working in certain particularly hazardous jobs.
SERVICE ACCESS CRITERIA
AGE
14-15
DOCUMENTATION
Proof of Date of Birth
REQUIREMENT
Parent/Guardian Must Accompany Minor
RESIDENCY
No Residency Requirements
FEE/INCOME DETAIL
*************Fee Description : Service Is Free
LOCATION DETAIL
***********Address : 10515 BATTLEVIEW PKWY
MANASSAS, VA 20109
Public Transportation : No Public Transportation
Accessibility : Fully Accessible
Contact for Service : Staff On Duty
**************Phone : (703) 392-0308
TTY : 711
FAX : (703) 392-0900
Service Hours : M - F, 8am - 4:30pm
Appointment Required : No
Business Hours : M - F, 8am - 4:30pm
Referral Required : None
Availability : Unlimited
ASSOCIATED CLASSIFICATIONS
WORK REGISTRATION
ADOLESCENTS

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: Tray von Martin ()
Date: July 17, 2013 04:43PM

Find a job that pays cash under the table. Won't even have to think twice about a permit.

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 17, 2013 07:25PM

solomon thomas Wrote:
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> I NEED AN JOB PERMIT AND IM 14 I NEED AN JOB TO
> GET MONEY AND HELP MY GAND MOTHER OUTT WITH BILLS

If you are in Fairfax County you can pick up the application from your local high school. There is a part for you to fill out and a part for your employer to fill out. You then take it back to the school and they will issue you the work permit. I think a parent has to go with you at that point but it is really not a big deal...DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR AT LEAST.

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: 933127 ()
Date: July 17, 2013 07:31PM

Yes you do need a work permit. If you need money, ask your parents or relatives or friends for babysitting, yardwork, pet sitting, etc. If not just enjoy your summer and hang out with friends, or just play video games.

It's nice to know that there are fourteen year olds who ACTUALLY want to work and not have mom and pop pay for everything though :).

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Re: Do you NEED to have a work permit at the age of 14?
Posted by: Hoosier Daddy ()
Date: July 17, 2013 10:36PM

YOU MUST HAVE FANTASTIC TITS, AM I RIGHT?

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