Supposedly Jiffy Lube Live isn't allowing tailgating anymore. Any truth to this, or have they always said this? I know they cracked down on tailgating without a ticket to the country concerts last year.

I doubt it, every other venue allows it. If I can't get my affordable show beers down before going in I won't go there at all and they can suck it.

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It's called Nissan Pavilion. I will never call it Jiffy Lube Live.

And it must be true...this is on their website:

For the safety and courtesy of all of our guests, tailgating is prohibited at Jiffy Lube Live.


That fucking blows.

country Wrote:
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> And it must be true...this is on their website:
>
> For the safety and courtesy of all of our guests,
> tailgating is prohibited at Jiffy Lube Live.
>
>
> That fucking blows.


Motherfucker. Well, they can suck it, because I'm not going to go spend $80 on their beer to get buzzed. Gainesville can thank me, as there will be one less car out that way this year.

Probably all because that dumb kid got drunk there, went home and decided to lie down in the street - hence leading to his death. Fucking it up for everyone else - that's his legacy.

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Pile of stale horseshit. Cracking down on the underaged drinking would be a much better start, while leaving us legal, peaceful, rednecks alone.

Yep, on the Jimmy Buffett tickets for this year it is printed on the ticket that tailgating is not allowed.

And how many years have the signs indicating that drinking alcohol in the parking area is prohibited been posted?

The only reason people go to a Jimmy Buffet is tailgate. Say good bye to half the crowd at Buffet shows and other concerts.

In a bad economy this may spell the end for concerts at Nissan.

SeeYa Wrote:
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> The only reason people go to a Jimmy Buffet is
> tailgate. Say good bye to half the crowd at
> Buffet shows and other concerts.
>
> In a bad economy this may spell the end for
> concerts at Nissan.

Not quite. JLL will not demise - it has too much money into it. Basically the place needs 20 shows a year to break even - barely break even. And they have not made that number for a few years.

Competition from Wolf Trap and Merriweather (now that MPP has a REAL booking agent) is part of the reason. The other is not enough touring shows to fill the schedule. JLL seems to be using the Baltimore Arena strategy for shows: Be available and hope the other venues are booked that night.

As of today ( let us pretend it is April for the sake of argument), JLL has less than 8 shows booked. Yes, they could technically get 10 more shows before the summer is out - but the number of shows most likely will not or barely get them to the magic number 20.

So why get rid of tailgating? I would guess that pressure from the community plays a smaller role than actual beer sales they want to have during the small number of shows they do have.

While I have no insider knowledge, I have heard a major comedian will perform at JLL this year. Charlie Sheen, Steve Martin, Adam Sandler? I don't know which. And it probably wont happen. But look for it anyway.

And "say good bye to half the crowd"? Buffett I believe is playing only one show this year. So half the crowd is right!

Fairfaxunderground rules: Lilliputions, not ok. Midgettville ok. I got it now.

The traffic is awful and the prices are too high. If you add in no tailgating you can just stick a fork in the place.

I love Wolf Trap. Classy all the way.

thats why every year Nissan says that there is no tailgaiting allowed.

youre allowed to do it.. just dont be stupid.

its not like they are going to take away everyones charcoal and grills so they cant grill anything..

But beer. youre on your own

I think Radiophile has a point. JLL turned down Miranda Cosgrove for this summer and handed that show to Wolf Trap. Why? Probably because JLL would not get the profitable beer sales that night.

There are a few other shows being considered for JLL like a Buffalo Springfield reunion, Black Eyed Peas, and possible US late summer tours for Lady Gaga, and the Foo Fighters. Also, like past years, there may be a rock dinosaur that will see an oppotunity with the slow summer and make some kind of "Aniversary tour." Maybe Clapton, Elton John, Cher, Kiss, Ringo, I duunno.

If the prices inside were lowered to reasonable, do you think people would be more open to "tailgating" inside?

Good. Maybe less people will go there now. I hate that place and what it does to 66 with a passion.

visitor Wrote:
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> If the prices inside were lowered to reasonable,
> do you think people would be more open to
> "tailgating" inside?


Several years ago I took my wife to see Rod Stewart. I stood in line to get beer while she went to the ladies room. She joined me just as I ordered 2 draft brewskies.

"That will be $19" the clerk said. "That's outrageous!" I replied. "this place must be making a lot of money" I said.

"No sir" the clerk said. "That is what the beer vendor charges us". "Then get another vendor" I quipped back.

Fairfaxunderground rules: Lilliputions, not ok. Midgettville ok. I got it now.

I gave up after walking through other peoples piss and vomit to get to a show. Going to a concert shouldnt be like wading through a day at spring break beach week. Wolftrap now gets my money. And oh, Buffet has gotten more stale with each show, middle aged drunks keep his boat afloat.

FYI, JLL just booked Kid Rock with Sheryl Crow for a show in August.

Fuck this.

Buffett--only one show instead of two, and, while the lawn is sold out, there are something like 1000 pavilion tickets unsold.

It is a really crappy place even when they allow (or look the other way at) tailgating.

Nissan sucked! Jiffy will suck even harder.

SO this brings me to my rant about out of control 'tailgaters.' What is screwy, is that many of these people are idiots and cant handle their drink. The last time I went, I saw a chick giving some dude a BJ, and then I saw her later making out with some other dude. Nothing so wrong. The problem was that they were 40 ish.....and at an 'all ages' event. Hell, Skynyrd and Allman brothers werent even playing.

The bike cops cant handle it either, as they are too focused on the scantly honey dips parading around. That is a different story though.

Now the inside of the place sucks! 12-15 dollar beers?!?! They are nuts....actually there was a time when 8 dollars a beer seemed high. Shows should move to the Patriot Center....

Jiffy is for Manassas rednecks.

Wolf Trap is so much better and has a higher class of patrons.

Lube in a Jiffy Wrote:
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> Nissan sucked! Jiffy will suck even harder.
>
> SO this brings me to my rant about out of control
> 'tailgaters.' What is screwy, is that many of
> these people are idiots and cant handle their
> drink. The last time I went, I saw a chick giving
> some dude a BJ, and then I saw her later making
> out with some other dude. Nothing so wrong.

Unless you were dude #2....

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

It's new:
http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2011/may/14/3/no-more-tailgating-jiffy-lube-live-ar-1039612/

It's the truth, as much as it sucks. Jiffy Lube Live no longer allows tail gating and their only opening gates for parking an hour before shows.

Now the Manassas rednecks have to pay for their own beer.

I think with the cost of beer it will keep the DWI's down too.

It is a win/win.

I think this has been posted on JLL website for the past 5 years or so.

Last summer we tailgated at a half dozen shows. The cops patrolling the parking lot wont let you have open cans or bottles but just told us to open them in the car/trunk and pour them into a truck. I didnt have an issue at any of the shows last year.

I *highly* doubt it has radically changed for '11 but I've been wrong before lol

Pour them into a truck? Seems like a waste of beer to me. And I think internal combustion engines need alcohol levels higher than 3.5%.

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

I would like to know how they plan on parking everyone in 1 hour before the concert starts. I would be highly upset if I miss any of the concert. Also I plan on getting a warning as soon as I get there( I will have a beer in hand ). Another thing that I will be doing also is pregaming at the 7-11 parking lot like I have done for several years now, so either way I'm going to be drunk going in. Only difference this year I will not be purchasing any alcohol/food inside. Let's make them really hurt financially!!!

Unless you are a Manassas redneck.

Just pull in, park, and immediately do about 5 shots of vodka in about 2 minutes. That should get you through the line sober enough and then drunk by the time you get to the concert.

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I'm curious as to how banning food, grills and tents will reduce drunk driving. Tailgating and drinking are not synonymous.

Sounds like a complete money grab to me.

Radiophile Wrote:
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> SeeYa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The only reason people go to a Jimmy Buffet is
> > tailgate. Say good bye to half the crowd at
> > Buffet shows and other concerts.
> >
> > In a bad economy this may spell the end for
> > concerts at Nissan.
>
> Not quite. JLL will not demise - it has too much
> money into it. Basically the place needs 20 shows
> a year to break even - barely break even. And they
> have not made that number for a few years.
>
> Competition from Wolf Trap and Merriweather (now
> that MPP has a REAL booking agent) is part of the
> reason. The other is not enough touring shows to
> fill the schedule. JLL seems to be using the
> Baltimore Arena strategy for shows: Be available
> and hope the other venues are booked that night.
>
> As of today ( let us pretend it is April for the
> sake of argument), JLL has less than 8 shows
> booked. Yes, they could technically get 10 more
> shows before the summer is out - but the number of
> shows most likely will not or barely get them to
> the magic number 20.
>
> So why get rid of tailgating? I would guess that
> pressure from the community plays a smaller role
> than actual beer sales they want to have during
> the small number of shows they do have.
>
> While I have no insider knowledge, I have heard a
> major comedian will perform at JLL this year.
> Charlie Sheen, Steve Martin, Adam Sandler? I don't
> know which. And it probably wont happen. But look
> for it anyway.
>
> And "say good bye to half the crowd"? Buffett I
> believe is playing only one show this year. So
> half the crowd is right!


Charlie Sheen, major comedian???bwahahahah now that is funny.

703) 754-6400 is JLL's number. Start calling and complaining. Let them know you wont be buying an food or drinks once you get inside the gates. Ask them how they expect to get 5,000+ cars through two entrances, one hour before the opening acts go on stage.

240.747.2700 - This is the number to WMZQ - start calling and letting them know that if something isn't done to change the newly enforced rule, that you wont support them or their advertising sponsors.

Tailgating at that place has been an institution for many years. If it weren't for underage drinking at that facility, many of my summertime memories of fun, food and friends would not exist.

To those of you that complain because you live close to JLL, just remember it was most likely there YEARS before some developer threw together your crappy, ticky-tacky house.



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AnnoyedFan Wrote:
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> 703) 754-6400 is JLL's number. Start calling and
> complaining. Let them know you wont be buying an
> food or drinks once you get inside the gates. Ask
> them how they expect to get 5,000+ cars through
> two entrances, one hour before the opening acts go
> on stage.
>
> 240.747.2700 - This is the number to WMZQ - start
> calling and letting them know that if something
> isn't done to change the newly enforced rule, that
> you wont support them or their advertising
> sponsors.


We were talking about this is Govt class. The reason they are doing this is becasue they want to sell their own Alchool. even my teacher said is retarted law. he drinks everytime he goes and it wont stop

dun Wrote:
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> AnnoyedFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 703) 754-6400 is JLL's number. Start calling
> and
> > complaining. Let them know you wont be buying
> an
> > food or drinks once you get inside the gates.
> Ask
> > them how they expect to get 5,000+ cars through
> > two entrances, one hour before the opening acts
> go
> > on stage.
> >
> > 240.747.2700 - This is the number to WMZQ -
> start
> > calling and letting them know that if something
> > isn't done to change the newly enforced rule,
> that
> > you wont support them or their advertising
> > sponsors.
>
>
> We were talking about this is Govt class. The
> reason they are doing this is becasue they want to
> sell their own Alchool. even my teacher said is
> retarted law. he drinks everytime he goes and it
> wont stop

I think your Government teacher should concentrate on teaching you the difference between a law and a policy. All of these points are moot because if they really start opening an hour before the show, they will, mark my words, go belly-up due to a lack of ticket sales. A HUGE portion of JLLs clientele are under the are of 21 and go to this venue explicitly for the tailgating. I doubt that a 45 yo sipping a jack and coke out of a Big Gulp cup will get messed with, there will be scores of underagers to bust in bulk if they are really looking to crack down.

Either way, its a lose lose. The kids cant buy beers in the venue (though I dont ever remember having that much trouble) and a bulk of beer sales will dwindle when the sobered masses dont have any "liquid courage" in them to facilitate the purchase of exorbitantly expensive brews.



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why would anyone tailgate while getting their oil changed? that seems as dumb as a banana to me. and kind of redneckish.

hematochezia Wrote:
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> why would anyone tailgate while getting their oil
> changed? that seems as dumb as a banana to me. and
> kind of redneckish.


lol your funny

Jiffy Lube Live said they are going to enforce the public intoxication law in Virginia (you cannot drink in public in VA). But aren't the JLL parking lots considered private property? So that wouldn't be drinking in public? Or am I completely wrong?

The traffic sucks, the parking lot is a bitch and the prices are sky high.

The venue needs to close.

Make sure you all "like" the Boycott Jiffy Lube Live Tailgating Policy wall on Facebook. JLL is telling the press that only a "handfull" of people are complaining about the policy.

Anything to do with Manassas.

I'm boycotting the place. No more cash for them....ever.

Screams redneck.

To ensure JLL really gets the point, email Matt Rogers at mattrogers@livenation.com. He was quoted in the WAPO yesterday saying this was purely a safety decision. If you read the article even PWC Police are distancing themselves and pointing out this was strictly a JLL decision.

curious. Wrote:
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> Jiffy Lube Live said they are going to enforce the
> public intoxication law in Virginia (you cannot
> drink in public in VA). But aren't the JLL
> parking lots considered private property? So that
> wouldn't be drinking in public? Or am I
> completely wrong?


There is a difference between private property and private property open to the public. I dont know the specifics but basically it would be the same as drinking in the middle of a grocery store. Its kinda like if you dont follow their rules, then you are trespassing.

What I have always been confused about is if the Police presence are off duty officers that are paid by JLL, or if the county floats that bill.

It's abundantly clear that it's a money grab by JLL, under the guise of public safety. They want to sell more $11 beers, that's all. The real problem is how are they going to park however many hundreds, if not a thousand or two's worth of cars in 1 or 2 hours? That whole area is a clusterfuck during concerts, even with tailgating.

Of course it will never happen, but if people didn't buy any concessions once inside, JLL would get the message loud and clear. Everyone bitches about stuff like this, but in the end they'll just capitulate and continue to contribute to the bottom line. JLL, Dan Snyder, etc. etc.

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Warhawk Wrote:
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> It's abundantly clear that it's a money grab by
> JLL, under the guise of public safety. They want
> to sell more $11 beers, that's all. The real
> problem is how are they going to park however many
> hundreds, if not a thousand or two's worth of cars
> in 1 or 2 hours? That whole area is a clusterfuck
> during concerts, even with tailgating.
>
> Of course it will never happen, but if people
> didn't buy any concessions once inside, JLL would
> get the message loud and clear. Everyone bitches
> about stuff like this, but in the end they'll just
> capitulate and continue to contribute to the
> bottom line. JLL, Dan Snyder, etc. etc.


I hear what you are saying but I gotta think that people are much LESS likely to buy $11 beers if they were not pregaming before hand. Think about buying shots at a bar, people rarely buy $8 rounds of shots sober, only once hammered.

It will be interesting to see what happens if a quarter of the audience still has to park and get through security lines when the show starts.

justsayin Wrote:
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> It will be interesting to see what happens if a
> quarter of the audience still has to park and get
> through security lines when the show starts.


Anarchy. And you're underestimating it at 25%, it'll be more like 50%. And that line is sloooooow.

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It takes over an hour for that place to empty. It takes 2 or 3 times that long to direct cars to open spots and for people to make it thru security.

Some earlier posts were confused. Jiffy Lube Live is clearly banning all alcohol, grills, and tents in its parking lot and this is a new policy. They say it is for safety but that is totally disingenious -- because JLL is now gonna sell even more beer inside their gates.

These are ridiculous policies -- when business is affected they will change them. Thanks goodness Wolf Trap knows how to do it right.

It is not that simple. It is private property. The purchase price of the ticket also includes fees to park. Below is the trespassing statute for the Commonwealth.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-119


JBass Wrote:
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> curious. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jiffy Lube Live said they are going to enforce
> the
> > public intoxication law in Virginia (you cannot
> > drink in public in VA). But aren't the JLL
> > parking lots considered private property? So
> that
> > wouldn't be drinking in public? Or am I
> > completely wrong?
>
>
> There is a difference between private property and
> private property open to the public. I dont know
> the specifics but basically it would be the same
> as drinking in the middle of a grocery store. Its
> kinda like if you dont follow their rules, then
> you are trespassing.
>
> What I have always been confused about is if the
> Police presence are off duty officers that are
> paid by JLL, or if the county floats that bill.

I'm calling it now - this place is on it's way out.

Last year, they were selling $11+ beers (WTF? That's more than a football game!) and were basically giving away tickets. They were rarely filling up the place. Their policy was obviously to get more people in the door and then make money on the obscenely overpriced alcohol, BUT they couldn't even do that and were begging people to buy tickets. Then the geniuses realized that not too many people were interested in buying one warm, flat Bud Light for the price of an ice cold 12-pack at the grocery store, especially when they could drink said 12 pack before the show in the parking lot.

It's disgusting how they're trying to play this off as a public safety issue. So does THEIR alcohol not cause people to drink and drive? How is the alcohol that they happen to be selling any different?!? And PLEASE, if someone got totally bombed before the show, walked in and didn't drink for the 2+ hours during the show, then they'd very likely be somewhat sober by the end of it. It's THEIR OWN SELLING OF ALCOHOL DURING THE SHOW that keeps that person drunk during the show and drunk for the drive home. Such B.S. I really hope people aren't stupid enough to buy this obvious spin.

I barely wanted to go there before (post-show traffic nightmare, too far to drive home) and this pretty much seals it for me - I won't be going back.

I can afford the drinks.

Where do you go where the drinks are cheap these days?

Baseball games: No

NFL games: NO

Good clubs: No

Fancy Resturants: NO

Stop bitching and don't go.

Since we're talking about tailgating before a concert the apt comparison is what drinking opportunies are available before the "main event". Let's take a look, shall we?

- Bars outside of the ballpark: cheap drinks & drink specials
- Tailgating at NFL games: very cheap drinks from a cooler
- Restaurants at happy hour (even some fancy ones!): cheap drinks
- Good clubs (whatever that means): everyone knows you pregame at home ahead of time & take metro or cab.

So, yes, I do know where the drinks are cheap these days. Thanks for asking! If you were nicer, I'd give details but I suspect you aren't interested anyway.

P.S. - it's not a matter of being able to afford something. It's a matter of paying what something is worth. Most people could probably afford to pay $50 per drink, but that doesn't mean they're going to.

Wolf Trap all the way.

I like to stay with my kind here in FAIRFAX!

Jiffy Pop is in Manassas. Yuck!

No tailgating - heard it was due to drug/drinking related accidents, especially youth and "undocumented" folk. Don't need the publicity, I guess.

Jiffy Lube is no Wolf Trap Wrote:
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> Wolf Trap all the way.
>
> I like to stay with my kind here in FAIRFAX!
>
> Jiffy Pop is in Manassas. Yuck!


please...don't give away our secret...soon those frigg'n PWC heathens and thier like will be invading our paradise...please wolftrap, no outlaws of rock shows or any of that redneck shit...i was on the outer loop at 3:30 @ tysons and watched huge four wheel drive trucks with confederate flags flailing in the wind weave in and out of traffic very dangerously..it was insane

Piggy Wrote:
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> It is not that simple. It is private property. The
> purchase price of the ticket also includes fees to
> park. Below is the trespassing statute for the
> Commonwealth.
>
> http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+co
> d+18.2-119
>
>
> JBass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > curious. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Jiffy Lube Live said they are going to
> enforce
> > the
> > > public intoxication law in Virginia (you
> cannot
> > > drink in public in VA). But aren't the JLL
> > > parking lots considered private property? So
> > that
> > > wouldn't be drinking in public? Or am I
> > > completely wrong?
> >
> >
> > There is a difference between private property
> and
> > private property open to the public. I dont
> know
> > the specifics but basically it would be the
> same
> > as drinking in the middle of a grocery store.
> Its
> > kinda like if you dont follow their rules, then
> > you are trespassing.
> >
> > What I have always been confused about is if
> the
> > Police presence are off duty officers that are
> > paid by JLL, or if the county floats that bill.


It really is that simple..."f any person without authority of law goes upon or remains upon the lands, buildings or premises of another, or any portion or area thereof, after having been forbidden to do so"

Forbidden to do so; If they forbid alcohol and I have alcohol in my hand, cooler, cup, whatever; I instantly go from patron to trespasser.

Also, on a side note, to those that have never been to Wolf Trap; Keep in mind that this property is maintained by the National Park Service. SO, any crimes committed land you in federal court to include, DUI, Underage Alcohol Possession and Possession of Marijuana, etc.

Fights, underage drinking, people driving home drunk and killing innocent drivers, the traffic , the place is a mess.

I give it one more summer.

Stick a fork in Jiffy Lube Live, the place is done. Instead of people arriving early and leaving late to tailgate, the place is going to be one massive traffic jam 30 minutes before and after a concert.

F Jiffy Lube. I'm going to buy a big field next to the place and start my own concert venue, complete with tailgating bars and BBQ's.

ItsDone Wrote:
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...the place is going to be one
> massive traffic jam 30 minutes before and after a
> concert.

Try 2 hours or more before and after. A thirty minute jam to get in or out of that place would be a dream.

I have never been to Jiffy but it sounds horrid.

I would suggest you not go if it is as bad as you say.

Two hours is just awful.

I agree it will soon be closed and that may be a good thing!

More Complete Wrote:
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> ItsDone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> ...the place is going to be one
> > massive traffic jam 30 minutes before and after
> a
> > concert.
>
> Try 2 hours or more before and after. A thirty
> minute jam to get in or out of that place would be
> a dream.

+1. I have yet to see a full show there after the very first one I saw, because no matter what the band is playing during the encore it isn't worth two hours trying to get out of that cluster.

Tailgating is the LEAST of Jiffy Jube Live-venue issues... Horrible traffic/access to or from any show! Nice place to see a concert if you get there? WMZQ venue traffic was backed up on Rt 66 West from Manassas for two miles at 4:00 PM last Saturday... It's the norm. If you are lucky enough to enter the parking area... you better have a 4-wheel drive vehicle! Their parking lot's turn to thick-mud after a rain-shower and you'll need several visits to a car wash to recover your former-vehicle. Parking at this place sucks! Have no idea how local residents of Bristow put-up with the nightmare of traffic for this lousy venue...

yeah, the ban is working out GREAT!!

http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2011/may/23/two-men-charged-jiffy-lube-live-fight-ar-1058857/

nice job, hillbillies.....................

Traffic must have been hell.

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66 stopped a little ways before the Prince William Pkwy. Dunno how in the hell the County doesnt make the venue widen the roads or whatever needs to happen to fix that bullshit

Hey my friend said they weren't supposed to "drink the water" at Jiffy Lube - just last week. Something about creek / no creek and toxic run off. Dudes in white suits and nuclear deer?? Anyone?

mmoore Wrote:
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> Hey my friend said they weren't supposed to "drink
> the water" at Jiffy Lube - just last week.
> Something about creek / no creek and toxic run
> off. Dudes in white suits and nuclear deer??
> Anyone?


LOL. You're referencing the ARC site across the street. Very urban legend with stories of irradiated deer, glowing water, etc., but in reality, nothing.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/38/103429.html

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I took my wife there once back in the mid 90's to see Alanis Morissette, boy did it suck (concert was ok, not really my thing, but lots of hot lesbian chicks). I swore I'd never go there again and didn't. If John Bonham came back to life and Led Zep did a gig there I still wouldn't go.

DWI's will be the same, people will just pay more to get drunk enough to get them.

Get a group together and all chip in for a ride.

Reston Limo has some great deals and you can go in style or get a nice van.

The great thing is each person can be picked up at their own home and have a great time without worry of a DUI or killing someone.

Problem solved!

PS I do not work for Reston Limo.

im glad they got rid of tailgating
all you would have are a buncha stupid drunk redneck teens trying to fight everyone and blast their shitty rascal flats

good riddance to that trailer trash

maybe ill go back there now

Good! Wrote:
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> im glad they got rid of tailgating
> all you would have are a buncha stupid drunk
> redneck teens trying to fight everyone and blast
> their shitty rascal flats
>
> good riddance to that trailer trash
>
> maybe ill go back there now


Real rednecks don't listen to Rascal Flatts.

I have an idea! Wrote:
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> Get a group together and all chip in for a ride.
>
> Reston Limo has some great deals and you can go in
> style or get a nice van.
>
> The great thing is each person can be picked up at
> their own home and have a great time without worry
> of a DUI or killing someone.
>
> Problem solved!
>
> PS I do not work for Reston Limo.

These guys have been involved with some of the most absurd evenings of my life...


You gotta roll up in one of these.

Went to see Sublime and 311 at JLL last night...What a joke! Within 1 minute of entering the parking lot I saw two vehicles being searched, one of which with police K9. Patty wagon looked to be en route. I also saw police on ATV's hiding in the trees around the parking area. I am in no way advocating drunk driving, we had a sober driver. I was planning on having a few beers with my friends before going in to see the show but once I saw what was going on in the parking lot I decided it wasn't worth it. I also decided that I will never visit that venue again. I hate seeing people being harased by the police.

JLL Hater Wrote:
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> Went to see Sublime and 311 at JLL last
> night...What a joke! Within 1 minute of entering
> the parking lot I saw two vehicles being searched,
> one of which with police K9. Patty wagon looked to
> be en route. I also saw police on ATV's hiding in
> the trees around the parking area. I am in no way
> advocating drunk driving, we had a sober driver. I
> was planning on having a few beers with my friends
> before going in to see the show but once I saw
> what was going on in the parking lot I decided it
> wasn't worth it. I also decided that I will never
> visit that venue again. I hate seeing people being
> harased by the police.


I hear ya! I was at that shit hole yesterday! (SUBLIME stole the show, hand down!) Luckily, I don't do the drinking and driving thing or barely drink alcohol. Moreover, all the assholes smoking some sort of bizarre smelling dope ruined my time! I mean I understand that the dopers are proud of their 'kush' or 'hydro' or what ever the hell these idiots call nowadays....69-way??

Now check this: as I was leaving, I left JLL by making a right turn out of the venue (you had no choice as they had the cones up)...and guess what???... DUI check point right there within 50-75 yards of the venue....they had cones set up leading right to it. Since I don't 'party' or engage in illegal activity....I was told to go home and enjoy the rest of my evening with the hot blonde in my passenger seat.

Tailgating for sure was not going on.....its sad that this already shitty venue got even shittier. Also....did you notice how the vending boths no longer sold tap beer.....instead you needed to buy a 'tall boy' of yingyangling or whoors light or Twizted Tee! pretty ghetto! $11.00 per tall boy! yeah right buddy, those crap shoots are only worth $2.00 So not worth getting a DUI over!

That place has seen my last dollar of support. on the other hand, there were some hot chickens running loose their, that will be missed!

Even before the "ban", that place lost my business. A buddy and I went to Iron Maiden last year and when we arrived, it was sprinkling rain. No one else was tailgating, but we didn't care, we just wanted to have a couple before going in. No huge party, just basically the only two people drinking beer in the lot. Some ass in his yellow raincoat came marching over ordering us to dump the beers. My buddy was about to give him a hard time, but I got him just to slam the beer and move on. $11 swill in tall boys inside. Screw Nissan Pavilion with it's shitty new name. Wolf Trap or Meriweather is much better.

I doubt you can see Iron Maiden at Wolf Trap.

How old are you that you need to slam beers before a concert. Funny.

I say you should stay at Nissan.

Wally Wrote:
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> If John Bonham came back to life and
> Led Zep did a gig there I still wouldn't go.

This.

I went two weeks ago to see the NSO do Sweeney Todd and I am a member at the Kennedy Center. Wolf Trap suits me fine. So does Iron Maiden and a few beers in the parking lot.

What is wrong with someone going to a rock show and wanting to drink some beers? Should I have worn Brooks Brothers and sipped some Bruichladdich instead? Jackass.

Iron Maiden and slamming beers.

Please grow up.

Has the parking lot situation improved at all? Does it still take an hour to leave?

shut it down Wrote:
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> I gave up after walking through other peoples piss
> and vomit to get to a show. Going to a concert
> shouldnt be like wading through a day at spring
> break beach week. Wolftrap now gets my money. And
> oh, Buffet has gotten more stale with each show,
> middle aged drunks keep his boat afloat.


Maybe you should stop going to shows...or get VIP parking!

AH, a wolf trap guy. i bet you bring a enough food for a thanksgiving dinner and dance around like a kansas city faggot

What are you tight ass people complaining about? A person can't drink a few beers before a rock concert in your view of the world. Grow up???

If you are 40 or 70 yo and you find it embarrassing to drink some beer before a rock concert, you are too up tight for me.