With the economic picture being as dismal as it is, why are Fairfax County Public School administrators insisting on funding managerial and coordinator positions that exceed the $100,000 a year mark? Many of these positions do not have a direct impact on schools, i.e. Coordinator of Psychology and Social Work services.

Any one familiar with the school system can see that many of these position carriers do not have any special skills or training that necessitates high ticketed salary and compensation packages. The School Board needs to find a way to reorganize the Department of Intervention and Support Services. The best recommnendation is to eliminate layered roles, such as Psychologists and Social Workers, Senior Psychologists and Social Workers, Program Managers of Psychology and Social Work Services, and Coordinators of Psychology and Social Worker Services.

Another thing to look at are schools that have one principal and two assistant principals. All of this top heavy management has got to stop. The county can easily save money by having assistant principals assigned to more than one school building. The concept of itinerant staff providing service at multiple locations is not anything new. In cases where more than one assistant principal is needed, they should both be given 10 month contracts. There should only be a limited amount of 11 and 12 month contracts.

CUT BACK!!

Stop wasting tax payer's money.

Please post your credentials so we can know you are qualified to assess the skill sets of the individuals you are talking about and what the expected salary levels of those positions and skill sets should be. Also please post the salary level of what those positions pay in both Loudoun County and Montgomery County.

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A Concerned Citizen Wrote:
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> With the economic picture being as dismal as it
> is, why are Fairfax County Public School
> administrators insisting on funding managerial and
> coordinator positions that exceed the $100,000 a
> year mark? Many of these positions do not have a
> direct impact on schools, i.e. Coordinator of
> Psychology and Social Work services.

Because mommies and daddies will complain that their precious snowflake isn't getting the education they deserve without these positions.

Supply and demand, baby.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

Just shy of 1,400 FCPS employees making over 90K.
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Just remember--the salaries do not include the benefits paid for my FCPS. Those would be a MINIMUM of $20,000--but actually much more.

Jack Dale gets a lot of perks in addition to his $292,000 salary. He also gets, a lot of vacation time (?I think I read five weeks) in which he is allowed to "consult" and earn even more money. Of course, he is trading on his rep as leader of FCPS.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/10/AR2009091001760.html

Marco - - Polo Wrote:
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> Just shy of 1,400 FCPS employees making over 90K.


This is absolutely obscene! If we didn't have such an inept School Board that spent all of their time on boundary studies and politics than they might have addressed this. Instead the current School Board has done nothing but kiss the butts of Jack Dale and Dean Tisdadt. Their expensive Admin empire is costing us taxpayers a fortune!

You folks are so adorable with your constant bitching about FCPS. :-)

You really know how to use your free time wisely.

great post marco polo Wrote:
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> Just remember--the salaries do not include the
> benefits paid for my FCPS. Those would be a
> MINIMUM of $20,000--but actually much more.
>
A better number to use in calculating loaded cost per employee is 135% of their base salary since this covers things like the employer share of FICA and benefits. It doesn't apply as well to someone like Jack Dale, but if you look at Dan Meier's $144K salary at Robinson his 'actual' cost is around $190K.

Marco - - Polo Wrote:
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> Just shy of 1,400 FCPS employees making over 90K.


Why does Silverbrook Elementary have its own School Based Technology Specialist? It is going to have much lower student enrollment than the surrounding schools.

Marco - - Polo Wrote:
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> Just shy of 1,400 FCPS employees making over 90K.


I wish that somebody in the Press had the guts to do some research on this and write an article and print FCPS non-instructional staff salaries in the paper. Now that would be an article of high interest to many people in Fairfax and definitely worth reading!

Thank you "concerned citizen" for your very complete homework. It does look as if many, many positions are duplicated if not more.

So what's the complaint - that some of the most experienced and key people in our school system might actually be able to live here?

let me get this right - you're complaining because 6% of FCPS' 22,000 employees earn over 90k?

Don't forget that the MEDIAN household income is $122k

from your list only 600 make over that ,, so less than 3% of FCPS employees make more than the median county income


Take a HS principal - 136k for running an organization of
- nearly 200 staff
- nearly 2000 pupils

This is far less that a skilled professional would earn in industry for a job of that complexity and which requires that much experience

FCPS continues to be one of the highest performing school districts nationally

<3% of fcps staff exceed county median family income Wrote:
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>
> Don't forget that the MEDIAN household income is
> $122k


Typo - median household is 102k

A Wellness Program Specialist at 94K?

What's with all the behavior stuff? There are counselors, psychologists and social workers (fine with me), yet there are also:

Behavior Management Teachers that are not based in schools (860,1040,433,745,563). Where does most of the behavior management get done? Behavior management doesn't seem like something that can happen in an office ??? Many teachers are specialists in behavior management because they do it EVERY DAY! Oh, yes, I forgot the Manager for Applied Behavior Analysis (389). Couldn't some of these jobs be consolidated? It's hard to see how they are all full-time. Are any of them related to the 639 job called Coordinator for Student Safety and Wellness?

What is 832 (community activities specialist)? Shouldn't that be separate from FCPS? Maybe a county job?

What is the difference between the Mentoring Specialist (617) and the Educational Specialist for Best Practices in Teaching and Learning (729)? It's hard to understand how those are both full time jobs (?)

I have no problem with principals and assistant principals making over 100K (they deserve it!). The teachers also deserve to be able to get to the 100K level.

I do have a big problem with all of these "extra" people tripping over each other at the central administration buildings. In many cases they are not helping the teachers and principals to do their jobs. Someone needs to take a look at not just the job titles, but what actually gets done on those jobs and whether they need to be full-time. Titles don't always tell the story. What is clear is that there are a lot of people on this list. What may be more interesting is a ratio of people who are actually grading kids (not just auxilliary in the classroom)--I mean people who have the responsibility for the students vs. other employees. This would be a more interesting ratio than the central office vs. school based figure. There are a heck of a lot of support people all over the place---some are great and useful and underpaid and some are not so great and way overpaid. Yes, the SB and staff are too busy moving shells around.

"Typo - median household is 102k"


Yes, that's the median HOUSEHOLD income. Tell people who are out there with 2 wage earners (or more) in the household that these salaries are fine. They are making half of this and probably working just as hard or harder (with weird hours and less vacation to boot).

The teachers that have the really high salaries (90,000+) must have PhD's and have taught a long time. Their retirements will be quite generous. And, remember the teachers work 39 weeks (194 day contract).

A PhD and longevity do not necessarily make a better teacher. Also, "board certified" teachers get a $5000 bonus. Board certified just means that the teacher has done a lot of extra paperwork to justify the bonus. It does not necessarily mean they are the better teachers.

The teachers that have the really high salaries (90,000+) must have PhD's and have taught a long time. Their retirements will be quite generous. And, remember the teachers work 39 weeks (194 day contract).

A PhD and longevity do not necessarily make a better teacher. Also, "board certified" teachers get a $5000 bonus. Board certified just means that the teacher has done a lot of extra paperwork to justify the bonus. It does not necessarily mean they are the better teachers.


+1

Some of the school staff (teachers, counselors, etc.) are truly outstanding at FCPS. They deserve every penny of their salaries (and more).

....and then there are the others....

Some teachers/principals have been incredibly disappointing. The school where our younger student was at had a weasel for a principal. A few students were using their classmates' meal cards to buy snacks, etc. The cafeteria lady knew this, but the principal did nothing. Maybe my thinking is old-fashioned, but I call this STEALING. This was at a wealthier elementary school--Waynewood Elementary, off GW Parkway, just north of Mount Vernon.

<3% of fcps staff exceed county median family income Wrote:
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> So what's the complaint - that some of the most
> experienced and key people in our school system
> might actually be able to live here?
>
> let me get this right - you're complaining because
> 6% of FCPS' 22,000 employees earn over 90k?
>
> Don't forget that the MEDIAN household income is
> $122k
>
> from your list only 600 make over that ,, so less
> than 3% of FCPS employees make more than the
> median county income
>
>
> Take a HS principal - 136k for running an
> organization of
> - nearly 200 staff
> - nearly 2000 pupils
>
> This is far less that a skilled professional would
> earn in industry for a job of that complexity and
> which requires that much experience
>
> FCPS continues to be one of the highest performing
> school districts nationally


Median Household income usually means TWO working adults in the house. The annual mean income is actually about 57K, so yeah, I can see why people have a problem with some dude who just wanders the halls of schools making 90K+. And what so complex about being a principal? They need to know the rules, they need to go to meetings, and they need to ass kiss to get anything for their school. If they don't the school goes to crap, plenty of schools like that. And you forget, they aren't alone, hell, most high schools have multiple principals and multiple assistants.



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<3% of fcps staff exceed county median family income Wrote:
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> Don't forget that the MEDIAN household income is 102k

Household median of $102k means mom & dad are each making $51k.

Several of the listed FCPS folks are making 3 and 4 times that much.

There are DSAs, elsewhere known as athletic directors, making more than high school principals?

That's just one set of anomlies. No doubt these anomlies are products of years in service but there's still, given the relative centrality of the function to the educational purpose, some seriously screwed up valuations on that list.

an elementary school Art teacher making 94,000 a year.....sign me up

crazystuff Wrote:
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> an elementary school Art teacher making 94,000 a
> year.....sign me up


No problem. Please bring your Ph.D. or Ed.D. to human resources and show evidence of 20 years of teaching experience.

don't complain Wrote:
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> "Typo - median household is 102k"
>
>
> Yes, that's the median HOUSEHOLD income. Tell
> people who are out there with 2 wage earners (or
> more) in the household that these salaries are
> fine. They are making half of this and probably
> working just as hard or harder (with weird hours
> and less vacation to boot).


We're a 2 full time wage family with kids (both in the private sector) - these salaries look ballpark for the seniority and responsibility, Do you want your principals commuting from West Virginia?

These wages are less that the equivalent in industry.

You have to compare these (top 3% of the staff) with experienced professionals with 20-40 years experience - not with new grads or McDonalds

The top 3% of commercial companies typically do far better than this. Ask yourself what an IT expert with 30 years experience and similar qualifications, or someone with 200 staff earns in Fairfax.

Kilton Wrote:
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> You folks are so adorable with your constant
> bitching about FCPS. :-)
>
> You really know how to use your free time wisely.

Who asked for your stupid input, if you dont have nothing constructive to the thread get the fuck out!

What's with the salary difference between South Lakes principal (136K) and Westfield prinicipal (113K)?

The present school board members are urging parents and other taxpayers to demand the Board of Supervisor to increase the funding for 2012. Maybe there should be a look at the duplication of services.....remember not only are benefits paid to these employees there are infrastructure costs thrown in, also. I guess that is why the push for a new administration building.....

Thanks Marco Polo.....

I would tend to agree that it's not so much the salaries as the services. A check of the value of the services that are performed by some of these people needs to be made. There needs to be an accounting to see if any functions can be consolidated. There may be good reason for the salaries if the functions merit them.

no problem Wrote:
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> crazystuff Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > an elementary school Art teacher making 94,000
> a
> > year.....sign me up
>
>
> No problem. Please bring your Ph.D. or Ed.D. to
> human resources and show evidence of 20 years of
> teaching experience.


Seriously, do you really think that ES Art Teacher has a Ph.D or an Ed.D??? My guess is that the teacher has just been doing the same art year in year out at the school for 20 years! Really, how challenging is it to tell a class of 4th graders to paint a self portrait.

What software are they developing? It's a school system and there are hundreds of them all over the nation so it seems odd that there isn't software over-the-shelf that has probably already been developed and could be purchased. Yet they have multiple software engineers/developers (394-397, 519, 730-732) and it looks like their salaries total to about $800,000.

That's all these people make? And then they have to listen to all these cashiers, gas station attendants, trolls, complain? Not worth it. Those jobs suck.....

How many cashiers and gas station attendants (whoever heard of a gas station attendant these days? Oh, you mean the foreigner sitting in the building?) are posting on FFU?

Honestly, those are the jobs that suck.

I'm curious, what are the basis of the comments here? How do any of you commenting actually know what jobs are essential and how can you determine which people "are
"tripping all over themselves"? What are your backgrounds and what are the sources of your information that state what jobs are effective and necessary??

I'm not arguing either way. I DO want to know the qualifications each of you has that allow you make general comments about jobs you feel are necessary. Are you part of the school system and have inside information?? Are your comments based completely on salaries or do you have real..SPECIFIC.. data to back up your claims?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Of course I should not generalize and pick on cashiers, gasbstation employees, etc.... I am directing my comments to whomever thinks these salries are anything special. I lknow people who work for FCPS and work so much harder than I do and I make a lot more money than they do. Honestly I made 400,000 last year settling the divorces of losers who can't get along with each other and are too stupid to realize that all they have to do is come to an agreement and go to legalzoom.com. But no, they woukd rather give it all to me. Sorry to be so outspoken but these salries are just not that high.

qualified Wrote:
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> Of course I should not generalize and pick on
> cashiers, gasbstation employees, etc.... I am
> directing my comments to whomever thinks these
> salries are anything special. I lknow people who
> work for FCPS and work so much harder than I do
> and I make a lot more money than they do. Honestly
> I made 400,000 last year settling the divorces of
> losers who can't get along with each other and are
> too stupid to realize that all they have to do is
> come to an agreement and go to legalzoom.com. But
> no, they woukd rather give it all to me. Sorry to
> be so outspoken but these salries are just not
> that high.


You made at least $400K last year?--no wonder why you mentioned these FCPS salaries are not that high...

I just read the posts and I am scratching my head..seems to me some of the positions appear duplicated and some positions rather too fluffed up for a salary over $90K. Ridiculous. 22,000 employees under the FCPS system? That is half of the number of employees under my employer.

A poster asked a good question--why is there a difference between the salaries of these two principals at South Lakes and Westfield. Anyone care to provide that information?

This whole administrative structure under FCPS needs to be throughly audited by some kind of an independent work force organization IMO.

I know! Let's be fair - even though the public seems decided already - and have the positions reviewed by taxpayers.

Need clarity Wrote:
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> A Wellness Program Specialist at 94K?
>
> What's with all the behavior stuff? There are
> counselors, psychologists and social workers (fine
> with me), yet there are also:
>
> Behavior Management Teachers that are not based in
> schools (860,1040,433,745,563). Where does most
> of the behavior management get done? Behavior
> management doesn't seem like something that can
> happen in an office ??? Many teachers are
> specialists in behavior management because they do
> it EVERY DAY! Oh, yes, I forgot the Manager for
> Applied Behavior Analysis (389). Couldn't some of
> these jobs be consolidated? It's hard to see how
> they are all full-time. Are any of them related
> to the 639 job called Coordinator for Student
> Safety and Wellness?
>
> What is 832 (community activities specialist)?
> Shouldn't that be separate from FCPS? Maybe a
> county job?
>
> What is the difference between the Mentoring
> Specialist (617) and the Educational Specialist
> for Best Practices in Teaching and Learning (729)?
> It's hard to understand how those are both full
> time jobs (?)
>
> I have no problem with principals and assistant
> principals making over 100K (they deserve it!).
> The teachers also deserve to be able to get to the
> 100K level.
>
> I do have a big problem with all of these "extra"
> people tripping over each other at the central
> administration buildings. In many cases they are
> not helping the teachers and principals to do
> their jobs. Someone needs to take a look at not
> just the job titles, but what actually gets done
> on those jobs and whether they need to be
> full-time. Titles don't always tell the story.
> What is clear is that there are a lot of people on
> this list. What may be more interesting is a
> ratio of people who are actually grading kids (not
> just auxilliary in the classroom)--I mean people
> who have the responsibility for the students vs.
> other employees. This would be a more interesting
> ratio than the central office vs. school based
> figure. There are a heck of a lot of support
> people all over the place---some are great and
> useful and underpaid and some are not so great and
> way overpaid. Yes, the SB and staff are too busy
> moving shells around.

ALL OF IT!!! + 1,000

Robin Hood Wrote:
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> A poster asked a good question--why is there a
> difference between the salaries of these two
> principals at South Lakes and Westfield. Anyone
> care to provide that information?


They have a salary scale with steps (longevity). I would bet that the principal at South Lakes has been a principal longer than the Westfield principal.

Many employers, public and private, pay long timers more than new people, Did you notice that many Assistant principals make more than principals? Same shit.

Shit, even a long time, dependable beaner at McDonald's makes a few cents an hour more than a new beaner at McD's!

CrabbyNative Wrote:
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> I'm curious, what are the basis of the comments
> here? How do any of you commenting actually know
> what jobs are essential and how can you determine
> which people "are
> "tripping all over themselves"? What are your
> backgrounds and what are the sources of your
> information that state what jobs are effective and
> necessary??
>
> I'm not arguing either way. I DO want to know the
> qualifications each of you has that allow you make
> general comments about jobs you feel are
> necessary. Are you part of the school system and
> have inside information?? Are your comments based
> completely on salaries or do you have
> real..SPECIFIC.. data to back up your claims?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.


We are the taxpayers that are paying the bills. We are the ones who have every right to start questioning what kinds of services we are receiving for our high taxes. In a bad economy, private companies always start focusing in on salaries and FCPS shouldn't get a pass just becuase it is a school system.

Taxpayer2 Wrote:
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>
> We are the taxpayers that are paying the bills.

In other words, you have absolutely no qualifications whatsoever to justify the comments in this thread.

Thank you for clarifying what we all knew already.

I would like to see an audit. I think FC taxpayers could get a better bang for the buck, especially since FCPS is lobbying hard for a pay raise - yes most teachers deserve the raise, but frankly Jack Dale does not. Any raise probably means most everyone in the system will get a raise, although his sweet deal contract may actually preclude that.

These administrators are way over paid. A typical teacher shill response is to attack those who are critical by talking about their credentials. The truth is anyone with common sense knows that these people are way overpaid for working 194 days a year.

Great post and great info.

SInce I don't believe insurance and other benefits are factored in, AND the work year is a measly 39 weeks, I think it is pretty eveident there is some room to trim. An across the board slice of 10% to 15% looks like it could be handled pretty well and that no one would go on the poor farm.

Ideally, this kind fo cut could return directly to the taxpayer, but even if it was kept in the school budget, we are talkng tens of millions of dollars. Surely enough to do several hundred new hires for 50K a year.

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You'd have to pay me at least double what they're making now to put up with the legions of whiny parents who expect the school to babysit, educate, counsel, and provide for their precious snowflakes. Yet, everyone expects these people to put up with this bullshit for the same amount you'd pay a secretary.

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So now you attack secretaries. Nice.

If my discourse with people on here about one of the best school districts in the country in any way represents the real public opinion, it's no wonder these kids are so fucked up.

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To rubbin the hood,


Who is your employer that has over 40000 employees and the top 3 percenters don't make 90gs?? That seems unrealistic.

For all those that would like an audit, you do know that costs a lot of money as well right?

With over 14 million Americans out of work, the Administrators should be put back in the classrooms to lower the student to teacher ratio. Here is another option, make school full year Monday thru Friday, 9-5 like a real job. Our children could hopefully increase their skills and parents won't be going broke over summer camps and after school care.

Taxpayer2 Wrote:
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>
> We are the taxpayers that are paying the bills.

In other words, you have absolutely no qualifications whatsoever to justify the comments in this thread.

Thank you for clarifying what we all knew already.



Yeah, that's right. We're just the dumbasses who get to pay the taxes, but get no input in the process. We just get to stand by and get screwed.

Oh, yeah---we were educated by FCPS. No wonder we're not "qualified".

Thanks for reaffirming the arrogance we already suspect is running our county.

qualified Wrote:
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> To rubbin the hood,
>
>
> Who is your employer that has over 40000 employees
> and the top 3 percenters don't make 90gs?? That
> seems unrealistic.
>
> For all those that would like an audit, you do
> know that costs a lot of money as well right?

To Qualified,

I meant half of the number of FCPS employees--roughly 10K under my employer (that is across the nation NOT just Fairfax County)--FCPS has 22K employees and alone in FX County. I still say some administrative positions appear duplicated from FCPS or overpaid.

Do you agree? No?

we have BA's, BS's, MA's, MS's, PhD's etc. etc. Wrote:
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>
> Yeah, that's right. We're just the dumbasses who
> get to pay the taxes, but get no input in the
> process. We just get to stand by and get
> screwed.

Considering you aren't even capable of quoting a message properly, I agree with what you said completely -- you are indeed a dumbass who has no business criticizing anyone else's process on anything. You don't even get to criticize Wendys' process when they make your lunch. You ain't qualified.

There is a difference in questioning what your tax dollars are going toward and making unsubstantiated comments (comments without data supporting the comment) about the job these people do and their effectiveness or necessity in the system.

Happens all the time on this board. I'm all for debate and disclosure but I prefer facts as opposed to off the cuff comments because someone doesn't have all their facts together.

You guys are funny.

Tomorrow, at the Pentagon, we will piss away more taxpayer dollars than the entire ANNUAL FCPS budget BEFORE LUNCH!

I hope it never gets out how many of us slackers make more than 90 grand! LOL

I am not the only one who would like a public audit of positions and salaries, schools (with children and classrooms) versus facilities full of overpaid adults trying to shuffle around the weight of this monsterous bureaucracy to satisfy the numbers before elections.

Maybe an answer to my earlier posting. I believe the South Lakes principal has a doctorate. Don't know about the Westfield principal. Could not determine by looking at the Westfield school site.

Stella would like to say that to get information about job descriptions and level of work required that are associated with these position is like trying to get information from a brick wall.....

Good luck.

A Kindergarten teacher at Haycock Elementary gets 90k? I guess he/she has a PhD. Why again do we need a PhD teaching kindergarten? Isn't that a little overkill? Yes, most teachers are underpaid but that's probably because of these overpaid ones. Is the Washington Post listening? Please do a piece on these ridiculous salaries at FCPS!

stunned Wrote:
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> A Kindergarten teacher at Haycock Elementary gets
> 90k? I guess he/she has a PhD. Why again do we
> need a PhD teaching kindergarten? Isn't that a
> little overkill? Yes, most teachers are underpaid
> but that's probably because of these overpaid
> ones. Is the Washington Post listening? Please
> do a piece on these ridiculous salaries at FCPS!


Ft. Belvoir and Riverside Elementary Kindergarten teachers are in the 90K range too.

Can't any of these folks pull a little double duty and help out senior staff and certain school board members?
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Looking forward to any explanation for a delta of over $60K in pay for Chinese language teachers in our system.

What possibly justifies one ES teacher to get $78K+ while another gets $25K?
One HS teacher to get $80K+ while others get $17K to $18K?
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I would think that the teachers on the low end are part time. This happens a lot in foreign language instruction at all levels.

It's interesting the our SB didn't want to cut foreign language in the elementary school because the kids would "lose" so much. (I think that was Stu's message.) It is interesting that the Oak Hill kids do not have Chinese available after 6th grade. They go to Franklin and Chantilly-neither of which offer Chinese.

Just think how many all day K teachers could be hired.......

I would love to know what the Behavior Management teachers do. Anyone have a clue? Maybe we could assign one of them to our school board and staff.

Pared down to the minimum.

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domain architecture - A generic, organisational structure or design for software systems in a domain. The domain architecture contains the designs that are intended to satisfy requirements specified in the domain model. A domain architecture can be adapted to create designs for software systems within a domain and also provides a framework for configuring assets within individual software systems


Someone, please explain. Is this one for each cluster? Are they putting SOL's online--what is their purpose?

Over $40M just for ESOL. Be informed.
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All annoying snots make 90,000 as first year teachers if the teach chinese and post on FFU.


How about time and grade jack ass? You have obviosly never been employed. Probably never kissed a girl, or didn't get a date to the prom this year. Try working to pass the time. Although on the other hand if this is your release its probably for the best so you don't go "Columbine" or "VA TECH". Go get a video game. You can manipulate that environment more successfully.

Keep in mind this is the bare bones per Dr. Dale.
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marco polos mother Wrote:
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> All annoying snots make 90,000 as first year
> teachers if the teach chinese and post on FFU.
>
>
> How about time and grade jack ass? You have
> obviosly never been employed. Probably never
> kissed a girl, or didn't get a date to the prom
> this year. Try working to pass the time.
> Although on the other hand if this is your release
> its probably for the best so you don't go
> "Columbine" or "VA TECH". Go get a video game.
> You can manipulate that environment more
> successfully.


Yowza. Did you get it wrong. Not a kid - an investigator.

Marco - - Polo. As in the game. Searching blindly for someone else to tag and so they can become "It", shifting responsibility of being "It". All the while, being all wet. It's called an analogy. Let's guess, you're a product of FCPS?

So grow an intellect. Or go back to watching Cartoon Network.

Holy Crap - no wonder my Real Estate taxes have doubled in the past 8 years. It's even worse than it looks. The taxpayer funded sweet heart pension gives them 75% of the average of the last three years of salary after 30 years.

I was a Computer Science major at VA Tech. Have worked at my current Company for 29 years. We had our pension frozen 4 years ago. I won't get squat now. At least when I lose my house because I can't pay the taxes I will know the FFX teachers are living the life in retirement.

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Marco Polo,

It is interesting to see the breakdowns. Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but is this list readily available?

Ask and ye shall receive.

Analyze this.
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I'm seeing lots of fluff - staff and administration positions with job titles too broad and ambiguous to mean shit. The teachers can stay - they've been geting screwed for too long (no, I'm not a teacher) as there are more good ones than bad.

Considering all the bullshit these people have to put up with from whiny, uneducated, and uninformed parents, I think they're earning their pay.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

These lazy stupid ignorant parasitic petty tyrants are virtually unemployable in the private sector. They should be grateful they get a paycheck and shut their filthy pie holes.

Marco Polo, anyway to shuffle the data so the public can see how many positions are at each school. For example, how many ESOL teachers are found per school? Maybe the data set does not reveal if these positions are 9 months are 12 months. Not all FCPS teachers/staff have a 12 month salary. Now some folks might have their salary spread out over 12 months, however, the actual on site work is for the school academic year. Does anyone know how many days are in the academic year?

I believe there are 180 days in the academic year, or 990 hours, per state regulations.

A teacher contract is 194 days. That includes the workdays and the week before the students return. Some teachers are on extended contracts---203, 214, 218 days.

Jesus Christ, people. Something like 3/4 of the School Board members are not going to run for re-election. Now's your chance!

If you want the run the fucking show, don't waste time here, launch your campaigns for a seat on the Board! These twelve people are the only ones that can fire Jack, be one of 'em!!!

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> If you want the run the fucking show, don't waste
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Telling the buffoons in this thread not to waste their time is like telling them not to breathe.

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Thank you.

To informed voter....if Stella clicks on the message, opens up the whatever, what happens next? Louise does not want the only household laptop to blow up. What information should be found for analysis?
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: Reduction in Force For all Non School-based FCPS Administrators Posted by: Informed Voter ()
Date: March 15, 2011 11:44PM


Ask and ye shall receive.

Analyze this.
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Is the administrator to teacher ratio in FCPS typical for school systems? I believe its somewhere in the neighborhood of .75 administrators per teacher.