or maybe shed some light........



yr gonna LOVE the lyrics LoLz

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> http://rosehill.patch.com/articles/defense-in-rose
> -hill-trial-subpoenas-victims-grandmother-brother-
> 2?ncid=M255
> The defense lawyer in the case of a 15-year-old
> boy accused of murdering Rose Hill teen Wyatt
> Campbell has requested seven new witnesses for the
> trial, scheduled for July 5.
>

>
> Along with the victim's grandmother and brother
> and the FCPD officers, the defense team has also
> summoned three teenagers connected to Campbell or
> the defendant to appear as witnesses.
>


I bet they don't include any of David's friends that he was talking to.

More Questions Wrote:
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> This is interesting, wonder what these individuals
> can bring to the defense table?

Character witnesses, probably. Attempting to illustrate that Wyatt wasn't the good little boy everyone on here says he was, maybe?

It seems like there's little doubt that the Smith kid killed (or was a part of killing) Wyatt. If the defense can show that the fight was a mutual endeavor in which Wyatt got killed, then perhaps that wouldn't be murder... which would also explain the origin of that manslaughter charge that was discussed a bit back.

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And that's why I'm a proponent of a review of the juvenile justice system as well , 7 years is a small amount of time. But charging as an adult, when a person is by definition is a juvenile, isn't right.

Let's not forget the 40 bottles gettin poured out

ROFL Wrote:
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> And that's why I'm a proponent of a review of the
> juvenile justice system as well , 7 years is a
> small amount of time.

Yes it is.

> But charging as an adult,
> when a person is by definition is a juvenile,
> isn't right.

Says you. You've brought your horseshit full circle.

Incidentally, even when charged as adults, juveniles are treated differently under the law. The jury does not pass sentence, and the judge has the option to sentence them as juveniles:

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+16.1-272

But the law also reflects the reality that the juvenile justice system is not the appropriate venue for horrific crimes against life. Those belong in the circuit court, not behind the closed doors of the JDC.

EDIT: added COV citation covering sentencing of juveniles charged as adults



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Ut videam Wrote:
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> rofl Wrote:
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> > plus no 15 year old should be charged as an
> adult,
> > totally defeats purpose of having juvenile
> justice
>
> Horseshit. Juvenile justice is for juvenile
> offenses: petty theft, simple assault, vandalism,
> etc. Do adult crime, do adult time.

You and I dont normally agree on this forum but I totally agree with you on this

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> Let's not forget the 40 bottles gettin poured out


Yeah that is sooooo much more important then making sure Steven Smith Rots behind Bars for the rest of his life.So let me ask you this, I am sure you remember the DC SNIPERS , So after Lee Malvo killed all those people for no reason, you still felt that because he was under 18 he shouldt have gotton Life in Prison or the Death Penalty??

@So Effin What - just fyi - Smith boy is only eligible for a max of 40 yrs, and even that's prolly unlikely

@Gordon- Yes I know the law thank you, I am well aware that on 2nd degree murder charge, Min sentence is 5yrs, Max is 40. Only 1st degree Murder offers Life in Prison with No Parole or The Death Penalty, with the stipulation that even if you are a minor being charged as a adult you still can't receive the Death Penalty. Sorry but I do not agree with that If they were old enough to act like a adult, and kill someone then all the laws should apply. Besides by the time their lawyers would be done with the appeals process etc they would be well over 18.

@so effin: well, if you know the law thank you, why's you say "Steven Smith Rots behind Bars for the rest of his life" in the earlier post? Decaf, bro - try decaf. LoLz

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @so effin: well, if you know the law thank you,
> why's you say "Steven Smith Rots behind Bars for
> the rest of his life" in the earlier post? Decaf,
> bro - try decaf. LoLz

What the hell did you flunk English and Spelling? " Why's you say "... Who the hell talks like that ? In answer to your question I was basically saying I wish he would, or hoping that while he is there hell do something stupid and get a whole new charge and additional time.. One can only hope.

After reviewing the evidence, interviews with the witnesses, and the police report - I think I have been able to reconstruct the crime scene:

so effin what Wrote:
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> What the hell did you flunk English and Spelling?
> " Why's you say "... Who the hell talks like that
> ? In answer to your question I was basically
> saying I wish he would, or hoping that while he is
> there hell do something stupid and get a whole new
> charge and additional time.. One can only hope.


yeah, you need to REALLY try the decaf, yo.....
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> Spelling?
> > " Why's you say "... Who the hell talks like
> that
> > ? In answer to your question I was basically
> > saying I wish he would, or hoping that while he
> is
> > there hell do something stupid and get a whole
> new
> > charge and additional time.. One can only hope.
>
>
> yeah, you need to REALLY try the decaf, yo....


I hope you realize that you were the only one who found that even remotely funny. You must have been dropped on your head alot as a baby. You are really a stupid person. just sayin, yo LOLZ

@so effin: wasnt meant to be funny so I dont know where yr thought came from - sounds like yr the one who had the head trauma when you were younger - just sayin, yo LoLz (heck, cant even get that right, can you?)

Here, why dont you just click the link and have some fun instead?
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> > > What the hell did you flunk English and
> > Spelling?
> > > " Why's you say "... Who the hell talks like
> > that
> > > ? In answer to your question I was basically
> > > saying I wish he would, or hoping that while
> he
> > is
> > > there hell do something stupid and get a
> whole
> > new
> > > charge and additional time.. One can only
> hope.
> >
> >
> > yeah, you need to REALLY try the decaf, yo....
>
>
> I hope you realize that you were the only one who
> found that even remotely funny. You must have been
> dropped on your head alot as a baby. You are
> really a stupid person. just sayin, yo LOLZ

I thought it was funny, and if anyone was dropped on their head it was you (Repeatedly).

so effin what=
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I give you props Dude, that was nice of you to show us a Picture/Video of your Wife!!! Very Brave of you, not to care what people might say.

@Funny - now now, dont be a bully LoLz

@ToFunny - really? Why dont you just say "Nyah Nyah I know you are but what am I?"

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> I give you props Dude, that was nice of you to
> show us a Picture/Video of your Wife!!! Very Brave
> of you, not to care what people might say.

That's a picture of Sloth from the Goonies, idiot. Sloth isn't even a real person; it's John Matuszak in make-up.

That was a really, really stupid thing to say.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> To Funny Guy Wrote:
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> > I give you props Dude, that was nice of you to
> > show us a Picture/Video of your Wife!!! Very
> Brave
> > of you, not to care what people might say.
>
> That's a picture of Sloth from the Goonies, idiot.
> Sloth isn't even a real person; it's John Matuszak
> in make-up.
>
> That was a really, really stupid thing to say.

I realize that is not a real person. So let me see if I understand this right. It was okay for FUNNY GUY to say that was what I looked like it wasn't stupid of him to say????? Hypocrites!!!

To Funny Guy Wrote:
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> I realize that is not a real person. So let me
> see if I understand this right. It was okay for
> FUNNY GUY to say that was what I looked like it
> wasn't stupid of him to say????? Hypocrites!!!

It was probably less of a reference to your appearance than it was your mental faculties. Hence, the "dropped on their head" statement he also made.

Even if it was a dig at your aesthetics... "That's not me, that's your wife?" Really?

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> To Funny Guy Wrote:
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> > I realize that is not a real person. So let me
> > see if I understand this right. It was okay for
> > FUNNY GUY to say that was what I looked like it
> > wasn't stupid of him to say????? Hypocrites!!!
>
> It was probably less of a reference to your
> appearance than it was your mental faculties.
> Hence, the "dropped on their head" statement he
> also made.
>
> Even if it was a dig at your aesthetics... "That's
> not me, that's your wife?" Really?

Yeah Really, it's called a public forum you are Allowed to say whatever you want, Isn't that you and your buddy Gordo always preaching??? But again it is only ok when its something u want to post or the part of your click on here.

Say whatever you want. It's just that what you said was more stupid than funny. All stupid and no funny, actually.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Say whatever you want. It's just that what you
> said was more stupid than funny. All stupid and no
> funny, actually.


yeah well I learned from the best, after reading gordon's posts and your post's.

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> yeah well I learned from the best, after reading
> gordon's posts and your post's.

My post's what?

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> > yeah well I learned from the best, after
> reading
> > gordon's posts and your post's.
>
> My post's what?


Perfect Example is your question..................... I learned how to write Stupid posts not funnys one from both of your posting's. That explain it better for you now.

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

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> I learned how to write Stupid posts not funnys one from both of
> your posting's.

Our posting's what?

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Here's a clue for you, dipshit: in English, we don't form plural nouns by adding apostrophe-s ('s). Apostrophe-s ('s) denotes the possessive singular.

LoLz
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Damn you guys dont give up ....You feel the need to double team both sites whats funny to me is you dont ever discuss the TOPIC????? Which is Steven Smith, why is that? Are you Gordon,or Mephisto related to the Smiths??, Because I noticed that once Brett Smith stopped posting, Good Ol' Gordy popped up and never went away. just sayin........

On to the topic of the room , Steven Smith, I find it funny that since they didn't get the results they wanted from the DNA testing, now they are trying every thing they can to try and support self defense, Seriously??? We are suppose to believe that after you stabbed not just once!, But 11 to 12 more times that you did not intend to murder him, I also find it interesting that from what I have heard about wyatt he was a pretty fast person, I find it weird he would have just stood there while someone pulled a knife out. Lets say Steven was able to get the first stab in, I again find it hard to believe he just stood there and didnt run, or scream for help. Which leads me to believe there might be some truth in the Set Theory....... Which makes this even sadder, to think this kid was lead right into a ambush by a so callled friend.

http://kingstowne.patch.com/articles/prosecution-dont-mention-drug-dealing-in-rose-hill-murder-trial

@Seriously - then simply explain why he had a golf club on him. Cause that makes it sound like he was arming himself for a fight, is all.

@Discussionor - Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........................

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Seriously - then simply explain why he had a golf
> club on him. Cause that makes it sound like he
> was arming himself for a fight, is all.
>
> @Discussionor -
> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........................


@Gordon- I cant answer that question, I am not Wyatt. Now as a outsider looking in if I am looking to kill someone and want to try and get away with it as far as "Self Defense" then I would probably say something like I need help they have a gun, something like that. or they have some kind of weapon.

I think the idea he brought a golf club for the fight comes from the news articles. Plus, I doubt he'd rush to defend his friend from gunmen with just his fists.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I think the idea he brought a golf club for the
> fight comes from the news articles. Plus, I doubt
> he'd rush to defend his friend from gunmen with
> just his fists.


Umm I would hope not, I know I would take something with me. As far as your other posting btw Keep in mind alot of those witnesses were for Steven Smith so of course they are going to say whatever trash about Wyatt they can.

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> Umm I would hope not, I know I would take
> something with me. As far as your other posting
> btw Keep in mind alot of those witnesses were for
> Steven Smith so of course they are going to say
> whatever trash about Wyatt they can.

I don't think it's fair to say that everyone on the Smiths' side is a liar. I'm pretty sure Wyatt's friends would have no trouble bending the truth if they thought it would help. It's the same thing.

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from the defense witnesses to a private investigator/author....we think it's pretty fair to say they are lying...if your own PI cannot/will not tell the truth, why in the world would you think that witnesses that are attempting to get this kid outta jail would tell the truth...there would be no reason for the prosecution witnesses to lie (except Randy, cuz of his involvement) because it doesn't get the victim out of jail or any less dead

What time does the trial start Tuesday?

to meph Wrote:
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> from the defense witnesses to a private
> investigator/author....we think it's pretty fair
> to say they are lying...if your own PI cannot/will
> not tell the truth, why in the world would you
> think that witnesses that are attempting to get
> this kid outta jail would tell the truth...there
> would be no reason for the prosecution witnesses
> to lie (except Randy, cuz of his involvement)
> because it doesn't get the victim out of jail or
> any less dead

Because if the defense can demonstrate that Wyatt was a drug dealing kid with a history of nefarious behavior, that could be the difference between manslaughter and murder two.

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With all the time and $ the defense has already spent trying to dig up dirt on the victim, and the court case starting on the 5th, my guess is that the Smiths weren't that open with their council. I haven't yet seen any mention or request for the commonwealths knowledge of the Narcs info with regard to the bust and turnning over informants that lost the Smiths purchase when in transit. It was known on the streets and mentioned at the beginning of the other thread.
I guess it's possible that one of those that got caught needed an escape goat and eventually gave a description simular to Wyatt over to the Smiths. But that's kind of far fetched.

Without any criminal record or ANY hard evidence of Wyatt being an on going big time drug dealer (and NO mr meph; drinking a 40 oz Miller highlife doesn't qualify anyone as a drug dealler) and Wyatt not being on anybodies radar, it's going to be a harder journey then when they fought that Wyatt may have stabbed himself muliple times.

Of course with the confession and Steven Smiths record, it's a sure bet that the Judge is going to consider him as a wanttobe career criminal and sentance him torwards the max.
But that's just my opinion.

*******In Memory of Wyatt Jackson Campbell*******
(((( 5-13-1992 to 10-14-2010))))



*******I AM NOT THERE******

Do not stand at my grave and weep;
I am not there. I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn's rain.
Whenever you awaken in the morning's hush,
I am the swift uplifting rush
of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there, I did not die.

Wyatt you are always loved and Forever Missed, Over the next few weeks
I know in my heart you and your family will have the Justice you so
deserve.

I swear to the gods... if someone ever memorializes me with sentimental drivel like that, I WILL come back and haunt them as an angry ghost.

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Let's challenge your promise...jump off a bridge (along with your special "friend," GordonBlvd..in fact, you two should hold hands and just jump off a bridge together), and see if anyone composes a sentimental poem like that for you...if so, come back as Casper, the gay little ghost, and haunt the author

If nothing else, this thread will mercifully die...

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> Let's challenge your promise...jump off a bridge

That's the kind of hypocrisy that makes people not give a shit. It's a boo-hoo fucking tragedy that Wyatt died, but you assholes think me, Gordon, or the Smiths dying is not only acceptable, but preferred. Pathetic.

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The parents may have been home in bed behind locked doors. we tried for years to keep our "child" (14-18) inside our home, under our supervision but, as all humans are wont to do, we would fall asleep round about 1 am and out he would go. Past alarms, locked windows and doors, etc. Please don't blame the parents unless you know for certain that they had involvment or were truly uncaring.

This is truly a tragic occurance and my heart goes out to both families.

Kid was on probation for multiple felonies and it wasn't the first time that little freak and his brother have been in legal trouble. Your damn right the parents are responsible. Should have been able to control their murderous offspring.

Well, trail starts Tuesday.

Actually, I don't have any opinion on the fact that Wyatt died. I do think that you and your butt-buddy, fellow-poster, GordonBlvd should jump off a bridge together...why is that hypocritical?

Your repeated postings on this subject...that's pathetic...

actually, it's you who claims they dont have an opinion on the topic at hand - yet waste their life-time posting on the thread - now THAT's pathetic

pic unrelated



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to lola
You have to be kidding?

loladream
Sadly, you have not been the only parent that had to deal with a difficult teenager(s). I have seen/heard co-workers, neighbors; and friends of their heartaches, mental anguish, finances; and fears. The blessing, many do grow up and become a good contribution to society and the fear, others don't. The blame of parents can not always be laid at their feet no matter of much society wants too.

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I swear to the gods... if someone ever
> memorializes me with sentimental drivel like that,
> I WILL come back and haunt them as an angry ghost.


Normally I chalk your bullshit postings up to well everyone is entitled to their opinion, BUT this was way out of line even for you. Sometimes it is better to not say anything at all. Karma is a bitch! Remember that.....

@mrMephisto - amazing how many of Wyatt's friends wish harm upon others (it's Karma, mind you LoLz)

@Varoom - hey dumbass, if you want the thread to die, maybe YOU should avoid posting on it! Talk about needing to lease a clue...............sheesh!

maybe y'all should focus yr "karma" on the person who ACTUALLY stabbed yr friend instead of ppl simply talking about it. Can't even believe some of y'all sometimes o_0

Varoom Wrote:
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> Actually, I don't have any opinion on the fact
> that Wyatt died. I do think that you and your
> butt-buddy, fellow-poster, GordonBlvd should jump
> off a bridge together...why is that hypocritical?

A hypocrite and a liar, too. Literally, the only people saying Gordon and I are friends, best friends, or homosexual lovers are the jackasses in these Wyatt threads.

I still don't understand where you people get off saying I'm anti-Wyatt, pro-Smith, that I think the kid deserved to die, or I should die for what you think I believe. Some sad sacks of shit this kid bad for friends.

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> Karma is a bitch! Remember that.....

So what did Wyatt do to incur karma's wrath?

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Speaking of jackasses on this thread...

GordonBlvd

and...

Mr.Mefisto

I'm late to encountering this thread, but you two are definitely asshats, getting some sort of thrill about this death, with your "Murder, She Wrote" theories, and repeatedly taunting the friends, aquaintances, whoever of the dead person...

Did either one of you actually get outdoors this weekend?

Pathetic.

Haskim II Wrote:
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> Speaking of jackasses on this thread...
>
> GordonBlvd
>
> and...
>
> Mr.Mefisto
>
> I'm late to encountering this thread, but you two
> are definitely asshats, getting some sort of
> thrill about this death, with your "Murder, She
> Wrote" theories, and repeatedly taunting the
> friends, aquaintances, whoever of the dead
> person...

Wow... You're reading way too much into it. Conspiracy theories? Getting a thrill?

The only dickbags I'm "taunting" are the people like you who don't contribute anything to the conversation but name-calling and self-righteous, misdirected rage.

What is so horrible about my opinion? I think it sucks that some kid died, I think he made poor choices that contributed to his death (based on what I've read in the papers and on here), I think he has shitty friends if they condone his choice to get into a back-alley fight for whatever reason, and I think the Smith kid (if found guilty in court) should go to jail for a long time.

Either you didn't read the entire thread because I've said all of this a few times already, or you read it and lack basic reading comprehension skills.

> Did either one of you actually get outdoors this
> weekend?

Never heard this one before. You should say something really original about us living in our parent's basement or being virgins.

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Actually, you're the one who should bone up on your reading skills...where did I even use the phrase, "conspiracy theories"?

I harbor no rage, only pity, toward someone who uses the Internet as their Bully Pulpit, to make up for their obviously deficient social skills.

And "dickbags." That's real class...

I have no interest in your living arrangements, nor your sexual experience.

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> Actually, you're the one who should bone up on
> your reading skills...where did I even use the
> phrase, "conspiracy theories."

Because there's absolutely no implication by calling them "'Murder, She Wrote' theories."

> I harbor no rage, only pity, toward someone who
> uses the Internet as their Bully Pulpit, to make
> up for their obviously deficient social skills.

"Bully Pulpit?" Seriously?

Did you even read what I wrote?

> And "dickbags." That's real class...

Thanks, asshat.

> I have no interest in your living arrangements,
> nor your sexual experience.

So your only interest is trying to put me in my place by ignoring everything and just calling me names/giving self-righteous speeches? And you say there's something wrong with me?

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You know I am not even going to engage into a pissing contest with you, I just have one thing to say, you and Mephisto always try to say we are not rude and mean to anyone one here!! Bullshit!! That person wrote something to Wyatt,not you two, yet instead of leaving it alone you all had to pounce on it, you are trash, pure and simple really no better then The Smiths in fact would not surprise me to find out you are one

@ "@Gordon" - I didnt say a thing about the poem - so I dont know why you say I "had to pounce on it" - your view of reality is a bit warped.

@Haskim II - Actually was out with yr moms Saturday nite - glad she could break a Fiver ;) No seriously though - what sort of "thrill" do you think I get from Wyatt's death? Your view of reality is slightly eschewed as well if you can read my posts and believe I enjoy children and adults getting into streetfights behind shopping centers in Fairfax County o_0 p.s. the "theories" I get are from the newspaper reports.

Gord, You might want to look up the definition of "eschewed" before using it in a sentence...

Don't try writing about your level of education.

And yet another "yr mom" joke...LoLz!

Sounds like MrMephisto got his feelings hurt...someone calls him on his sanctimonious blovating and he gets all Emo...

C'mon Inspector Gadget, bitch up! Practice what you preach!

Transmicon MC Wrote:
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> Sounds like MrMephisto got his feelings
> hurt...someone calls him on his sanctimonious
> blovating and he gets all Emo...
>
> C'mon Inspector Gadget, bitch up! Practice what
> you preach!

What the hell are you talking about?

Also, I think you meant "bloviating." Maybe you should stick to words you can actually spell.

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It's much more fun to guess at words than actually waste time spelling them, but thanks for the advice....

LoLz!

http://kingstowne.patch.com/articles/rose-hill-murder-trial-begins

Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Camille Turner argued that the defendant attacked Campbell, stabbing him twelve times.

Defense attorney Caroline Costle said in her statement that the defendant was attacked, and only stabbed Campbell out of self-defense. She said Campbell's stab wounds are consistent with the self-defense theory.

With opening statements finished, a Fairfax County Police Department officer was called as the first witness. He had been called to the hospital the night of Campbell's death to investigate the stabbing.

On the witness stand, he showed the items he collected as evidence at the hospital: Campbell's bloody clothing, and a spring-loaded switchblade. The knife's owner was not established, although Costle said in opening arguments that Campbell brought a knife to the fight where he allegedly received his wounds.

Interesting.

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@Mr Mephisto - yes, very

@Grammar - just to use smaller words so you can understand - reality is being shunned, avoided, disliked by you if you think I get enjoyment from y'all streetfighting with weapons behind shopping centers in and around Fairfax County. Try and get and education maybe you can keep up ;)

THIS ISN'T THE PLACE TO MOURN . HOW MANY F'N TIMES IS THIS GONNA HAPPEN. WHEN WILL PEOPLE EVER LEARN?

ALL YOU PEOPLE WRITING ABOUT TROLLS AND THIS AND THAT ARE MORONS. THIS ISN'T AN OBITUARY SITE.

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> THIS ISN'T THE PLACE TO MOURN . HOW MANY F'N TIMES
> IS THIS GONNA HAPPEN. WHEN WILL PEOPLE EVER
> LEARN?
>
> ALL YOU PEOPLE WRITING ABOUT TROLLS AND THIS AND
> THAT ARE MORONS. THIS ISN'T AN OBITUARY SITE.


@ROFL--- No one really cares what you have to say! So Have a Coke and a Smile and I am sure you know the rest but in case you don't it is "STFU"

@Gordon and Mephisto -- What do you find so interesting?

You don't know the definition of "eschewed" Gordo...that's the point, or at least one point..talk about not having an "education.".

I don't know why you and Macfistula are so fascinated with this case, and why you constantly post and repost...do you think you're actually doing anything constructive? If you had any of the dignity you claim, you would just go away, but sadly, that doesn't appear to be the case.

It's entirely possible that Gordon and Macfist are the same person,posting under different names, and stroking each other.

Now, I'm going to "eschew" you and this thread...

@Spanky - if we were the same person, how could we be stroking each other? Yr thoughts and talk of sexuality on a thread like this is VERY creepy o_0

@Trial - well, at first it was the memorial pic. Then it was the actual facts of the case, as reported in the Patch. Then it was the rumours about hidden safes, conspiracy theories, etc. Currently, it's the fact that there are actually ppl who feel that children streetfighting with weapons behind shopping centers in the county is normal behaviour.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Trial - well, at first it was the memorial pic.
> Then it was the actual facts of the case, as
> reported in the Patch. Then it was the rumours
> about hidden safes, conspiracy theories, etc.
> Currently, it's the fact that there are actually
> ppl who feel that children streetfighting with
> weapons behind shopping centers in the county is
> normal behaviour.

That, and the alternative is is talking about FCPS or diving into the cesspool of off-topic. It's a fine cesspool, don't get me wrong, but it gets tedious after a while.

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> @Gordon and Mephisto -- What do you find so
> interesting?

How did Wyatt come into possession of an illegal switchblade at the hospital?

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'If They Called the Cops, I'm Screwed': Fight Participant Testifies in Rose Hill Murder Trial
Defense attorney says witness will lie to cover up drug dealing.

By Will Sommer, Kingstowne Patch, July 5, 2011, 6:56pm

The trial of a Rose Hill teen accused of murder continued Tuesday afternoon, with testimony from one of only four people believed to have witnessed the fight that allegedly resulted in the death of Wyatt Campbell...

Randy Taylor, 21, testified that he was hanging out with Campbell the night he died, and later joined him in a fight.

Taylor's testimony preceded accusations from the defendant's attorney that he would lie on the stand to cover up an alleged drug-dealing relationship between Taylor; Campbell; and a third man who drove Campbell to the hospital after the fight and, according to the defense, participated in it.

Patch is currently declining to identify the third man because he is being accused of crimes, and it's not clear yet whether he is a minor.

These accusations were made with the jury outside the room because Judge Brett A. Kassabian had excluded mention of alleged drug dealing, ruling that drugs were not involved in Campbell's death.

On October 14, in a time period identified between 9:30 p.m. and 10:15 p.m., Taylor drove Campbell to Rose Hill to drop him off. First, though, they stopped at the 7-Eleven in the Rose Hill Shopping Center so Taylor could buy Campbell cigarettes.

According to Taylor, Campbell didn't have his identification on him, and he looked too young to buy without one.

As the two pulled up to the 7-Eleven, Taylor said, the defendant's older brother approached Campbell, still in the car.

"Did you get my brother?" Taylor testified hearing the man ask Campbell. According to a witness statement to police, Campbell and two other boys, pretending to be police officers, had robbed the defendant and some of his friends.

Taylor then said the defendant's older brother punched Campbell in the side of the head. Asked by Greenberg to explain how the brother punched Campbell, Taylor offered to demonstrate.

"I'm going to play it out just like Hollywood for you, man," he said.

With the defendant still in another car, Campbell and the older brother began yelling at each other.

"It was just like the heat of the moment," Taylor said. "Everybody was talking crap."

Taylor didn't want to fight in front of the 7-Eleven for several reasons: he was on probation for a felony offense, he knew the store had surveillance cameras, and there was a small amount of marijuana in the car.

"People are going to call the cops there," he testified.

Taylor tried to maneuver his car out of the parking lot. After being initially blocked by the defendant's brother, he succeeded, and drove to Campbell's grandmother's home, in a nearby apartment complex. Taylor said it was clear the encounter with the defendant and his brother was not finished.

"An example needs to be set," he testified.

Campbell and Taylor began walking from Campbell's grandmother's home to a sidestreet behind the 7-Eleven, a distance of about a block-and-a-half.

Greenberg pressed Taylor on whether Campbell was carrying a golf club, because a broken golf club was found at the scene of the crime. Taylor said he never saw what Campbell was carrying, because Campbell was behind him the whole time.

Taylor eventually conceded that Campbell was in front of him when they returned to the 7-Eleven to find out if the police had been called.

"If they called the cops, I'm screwed," Campbell said [ was it Campbell who said that, or Taylor? ], then added that he just wanted to know. He said he still did not see if Campbell had a golf club.

Soon after that, the two friends met with the brothers behind the convenience store. Taylor punched the older brother, who he says was aiming a toy gun at him. The brother responded by hitting Taylor with the gun.

"It was one of my longer fights," Taylor said.

Meanwhile, Taylor said, he saw the defendant on top of Campbell, then fighting with Campbell against a fence. Still, Taylor said he didn't see much of the other half of the fight.

"It's like television," he said. "All you're seeing is your opponent."

Eventually, another friend of Campbell's arrived. While the defense maintains this third man helped throughout the fight, Taylor said that he couldn't remember how long his friend, who is about 6 feet tall, weighing between 250 and 300 pounds, according to Taylor, was there.

As the fight ended, this third man took Campbell to the hospital. Although Taylor said he never saw the defendant stab Campbell, he testified that Campbell seemed short of breath.

"This n**** hit me in my lung," Taylor recalled Campbell saying to him as he left, using a racial slur.

After the fight, Taylor said, he went to a friend's house, changed clothes, and went to the hospital. Greenberg, in arguments with the jury out of the room, said that Taylor had used the time after the fight to hide a safe containing marijuana.

The defense seized on several seeming discrepancies between Taylor's testimony at the trial and earlier statements to police.

Taylor initially said he only talked to the third man, briefly, at the hospital, but when confronted by a call between him and the man after the fight, he acknowledged that they talked briefly.

Taylor also did not have an explanation for why his phone was found in the third man's car at the hospital.

"It's a mystery to me, too," he said.

Taylor was asked whether Campbell usually carried a knife. An officer at the hospital found a spring-loaded knife in Campbell's personal effects.

"I never knew him to carry a weapon," Taylor said. "He carried a utility knife."

Several other witnesses testified in the afternoon. Devinder Singh, the owner of the Rose Hill 7-Eleven, testified about his store's surveillance camera.

Homicide detective Stephen Needls also testified about the custody of the video tape from the night that was given to police. No video was shown in the trial.

Detective John Tuller, a crime scene investigator with FCPD, testified about the scene in the hospital where Campbell died from his wounds. Tuller showed the shirt Campbell had been wearing in the hospital: a white polo shirt with blue stripes, about half of it stained with what looked like blood.

Investigating the car that took Campbell to the hospital, Tuller said, he found several blood stains and a wooden-handled knife with no blood on it.

FCPD homicide Detective Eric Dean, the lead investigator on the case, also testified about getting a DNA swab from the defendant's mouth.

Finally, Detective Michael S. Lamper testified about various pieces of evidence that he saw at the crime scene, including blood stains and the broken golf club.

The trial is set to resume Wednesday at 9 a.m.

http://kingstowne.patch.com/articles/if-they-called-the-cops-im-screwed-fight-participant-testifies-in-rose-hill-murder-trial

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> > @Gordon and Mephisto -- What do you find so
> > interesting?
>
> How did Wyatt come into possession of an illegal
> switchblade at the hospital?


Wyatt was Dead by the time they got to the hospital, So what would you conclude out of that? i conclude it was planted

Taylor's testimony preceded accusations from the defendant's attorney that he would lie on the stand to cover up an alleged drug-dealing relationship between Taylor; Campbell; and a third man who drove Campbell to the hospital after the fight and, according to the defense, participated in it.
I was told that it was also stated by the defense that Campbell's cell phone had pictures of 1/2 to 1/LB of pot, don't think this is for personal use. This is why prosecutor did not want Campbell's reputation brought to light.

Patch is currently declining to identify the third man because he is being accused of crimes, and it's not clear yet whether he is a minor.
It's Tony, his name has been all over these threads.

"An example needs to be set," he testified.
This statement was from Campbell and Randy agreed. Randy testified that he did not know the Smiths but Campbell did. Randy further testified that Campbell was HOT and was after David along with himself. But at the same time, Randy was somewhat afraid of David.
It was revealed that Campbell was not an innocent bystander and known as a drug dealer.

"This n**** hit me in my lung," Taylor recalled Campbell saying to him as he left, using a racial slur.
Heard Campbell was able to run to the car. Heard the word used was, nigga, which does not have racial meaning behind it, you see it on facebook between the kids.

Taylor initially said he only talked to the third man, briefly, at the hospital, but when confronted by a call between him and the man after the fight, he acknowledged that they talked briefly.
When did Tony show up at the fight, Randy could not say. Tony took Campbell to the hospital.

"I never knew him to carry a weapon," Taylor said. "He carried a utility knife."
This could have been true until Campbell bought his new expensive switchblade which I heard was shown as evidence.

I was told that Randy stated that Steven just sat in the car in front of 7-11 and that the heated verbal confrontation was between Campbell, David; and Randy. They agreed to meet behind 7-11, not Steven. Randy stated that Steven never said a word, just sat in the car. Steven tried to get back into his brother's car when Campbell was swinging the golf club and busting up the car windows. Sounds Campbell went after Steven, not the other way around.

Investigating the car that took Campbell to the hospital, Tuller said, he found several blood stains and a wooden-handled knife with no blood on it.
Why the wooden knife was not confiscated and analyzed especially if you found several blood stains in the car during a stabbing crime?

You can reprint all that you want, of course the Defense is out to play Wyatt Campbell has a bad person and that he "attacked" Steven Smith First, It is his job, as much as it disgusts me. I work in the Shopping Center, I have known Wyatt and his family for years. Not on a real personal like "Hey let's do lunch", but well enough to say that i can say he was always polite, and helpful, and smiling. I am not worried I have faith that this jury will see through the bull**** and find that kid guilty of Murder, which he is. 12 x equals Murder not Self Defense.

@RoseHill - how can they find him guilty of murder when he is only being charged with manslaughter?

@Update - thank you for them

@Mr Mephisto - could have been planted - but I think that would be difficult if there are two other ppl you are FIGHTING still hanging around..................

It's second degree murder charge

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> It's second degree murder charge


my bad

Rose Hill Resident
Attend the trial, the light that has been shed is different. Many kids are polite, helpful on and on, then there's that other side.
You would be very surprise to find out that it actually was self-defense.

Do you know if the defendant is going to testify?

Self defense? The defendants witnesses testified that Wyatt never touched them and never took anything from them. Steven's own brother testified that they left to go get the gun to rob Wyatt. Keep on hoping. You should have stayed til the end when the defense attorney is already filing his appeal. Apparently he doesn't have any confidence in his defense.

What I got from my nightly update:

The defendants witnesses testified that Wyatt never touched them and never took anything from them.
Wyatt and his 2 friends identified themselves as the police and robbed Steven and his 2 friends of their ipod and cell phones and asked if they had any weed on them. One witness testified that Wyatt had Steven, he also said that he asked for help from the cable man but he said he wasn't a police officer. The kids did not report it because it was around 1AM and they had snuck out of their houses. Wonder what age Wyatt and his friends were at the time, under 18.

Steven's own brother testified that they left to go get the gun to rob Wyatt.
BULLSHIT, that statement was made by the prosecutor. The gun a broken piece of plastic was brought by his brother David to scare Wyatt and Randy. But somewhere in the picture there's Tony. He stepped in a pile of s#it today with testimony and still under investigation.

You should have stayed til the end when the defense attorney is already filing his appeal. Apparently he doesn't have any confidence in his defense.
Wasn't there. But hopefully he is because anyone can hear and see that the judge (who's a former prosecutor and new to the bench, sworn in February 1, 2010) hasn't change his hats yet. I'm sure he has confidence, but he can see that the judge want's to see his upcoming young female Commonwealth Attorney work through the ranks and make a name for herself off this case, can't let her fail. Was told that even a blind and deaf person can see the judge's operation.

No matter how you want to twist and turn it Wyatt went after Steven not the other way around. If someone is coming after you with a weapon in their hand and then gets tackled, hell yeah anyone is going to do whatever it takes to protect themselves. By no means was Wyatt innocent as a matter of fact, Steven is the innocent one based on defense and prosecution's witnesses, it all comes down to Wyatt, Randy; and David starting s$it, not Steven.

Don't think for one minute that Wyatt and his brother, Will's reputations have not preceded them. Kids talk even in the middle-upper class communities.

As many as stated, it's a shame that Wyatt's Mom lost her youngest child and the pain she is going through is beyond imagination, hearts are going out to her!

Ok So you said you did not attend the trial today and I amuse not yesterday either, yet WE are suppose to believe your take on it, Ummmm yeah I'll pass.... One thing I ill say though is it is funny how because the case is not going the way you and your Family ( the Smiths if you are not related you are a close friend that is apparent) or Friends that noe The Judge is siding with the Victim's Side because he wants the young new lawyer to make a name for herself, Geezz Grasping at Straws aren't ya..


The Facts are this weather you like them or not , 1) On Oct 14, 2010 Steven and David Smith went looking for Wyatt Campbell to attack him, Steven admitted it in the search warrant. 2) If he ( Steven ) was so pressed about being "robbed" why did he not report it to the police? Ipod's and Cell Phones are expensive I am sure he had to explain to his parents somehow what happened to them. 3) David and Steven Smith went looking that night to hurt Wyatt Campbell not the other way around. i don't kno if we will ever really know what happened, someone else mentioned that before and I agree.

It was not Self Defense, Gimme me a Break, if someone comes at you with something weather it is their fists or a weapon why would you just stand there? I know I wouldn't I would move out of the way. or if I didnt have enough time and I grabbed something i dunno a knife maybe, I could see one stab, But 12???????????? Sorry ain't buying the whole Self Defense BULLSHIT,and sounds like you are afraid the judge and jury aren't either.

David said it in his own words that he, the army vet, went with a gun, pointed at Wyatt without provocation, to rob him and get back stevies stuff. Stuff dear stevies own witnesses said that Wyatt did not take. Helpful older brother described how he turned his car around and assaulted Wyatt at the 7'11. Didya miss that witness who collaborated that? The judge is actually a former criminal defense attorney with a family firm of criminal defense attorneys. The smith faily truly has a hard time with the truth. Say bye bye to the freak, he's going to big boy jail. The smiths should have stayed in winslow that night instead of returning. Wyatt was attacked by an obese man he did not know. The heavyset man and his equally heavy brother then went, got weapons and returned. You do not attack a person twice when you were the pursuing party and then claim self defense. They chased Wyatt. They brought deadly weapons. They had two opportunities to stay in their neighborhood. They chose to murder.

also attended Wrote:
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> David said it in his own words that he, the army
> vet, went with a gun, pointed at Wyatt without
> provocation, to rob him and get back stevies
> stuff. Stuff dear stevies own witnesses said that
> Wyatt did not take. Helpful older brother
> described how he turned his car around and
> assaulted Wyatt at the 7'11. Didya miss that
> witness who collaborated that? The judge is
> actually a former criminal defense attorney with a
> family firm of criminal defense attorneys. The
> smith faily truly has a hard time with the truth.
> Say bye bye to the freak, he's going to big boy
> jail. The smiths should have stayed in winslow
> that night instead of returning. Wyatt was
> attacked by an obese man he did not know. The
> heavyset man and his equally heavy brother then
> went, got weapons and returned. You do not
> attack a person twice when you were the pursuing
> party and then claim self defense. They chased
> Wyatt. They brought deadly weapons. They had
> two opportunities to stay in their neighborhood.
> They chose to murder.

+200 Hope he meets a Obese Guy Down South named Big Bubba

Defense Calls Victim's Grandmother, Brother in Murder Trial
The defendant's brother gives his side of the fatal fight

By Will Sommer, Kingstowne Patch, July 7, 2011, 7:00am

It was a day for expert witnesses, foggy memories, and disputed testimonies as the prosecution rested its argument and the defense began calling witnesses in the second day of a Rose Hill teen accused of murder.

The male defendant, 15-years-old at the time of his alleged crime, is accused of murdering 18-year-old Rose Hill resident Wyatt Campbell with a knife on October 14, 2010. It is Patch policy not to name minors charged with crimes.

The 7-Eleven Witness

The prosecution called James Lewis, a Rose Hill man who was walking into the 7-Eleven when the argument brought out between Campbell, a friend, and the defendant and his brother over whether Campbell had robbed the defendant.

In court, Lewis explained a surveillance video taken of the 7-Eleven's entrance. Because it was shown at an angle away from the public, Kingstowne Patch can't say what the tape contained. From descriptions, however, it appeared to show the entrance to the 7-Eleven, and possibly the headlights of cars in front of the store.

In one strange moment, Lewis described Randy Taylor, who is 21 years-old, as probably in his late thirties or early forties. Coming upon the situation in the parking lot, he guessed that Taylor was Campbell's father.

Tony Perez

In the morning, the prosecution called Tony Perez, a friend of Campbell's who took him to the hospital after he was stabbed. Perez described how he drive in the sidestreet behind the Rose Hill Shopping Center, saw Campbell struggling after the fight, and put him in his car.

As he heard Campbell grow quiet on the way to the hospital, Perez worried that he had stopped fighting for his life.

"You're not gone!" Perez recalled saying. "You're still with me!"

The defense, after pointing out that Perez was on felony probation on the night of Campbell's death, asked Perez whether he participated in the fight.

According to the defense's theory of the fight, Perez helped Campbell and Taylor fight the defendant and his older brother. The prosecution holds that Perez was not involved.

"You know you're under oath right now?" said defense attorney Cary Greenberg asked Perez after he denied involvement in the fight.

Medical Examiner

After Perez, the jury heard from a DNA expert about DNA found around the crime scene (most of it could be attributed to Campbell) and the medical examiner who performed Campbell's autopsy.

According to Dr. A Wayne Williams, Campbell received 12 stab wounds on his body, two of which would be fatal. The first, which went through cartilage around his ribs and his pulmonary artery, caused blood loss.

With less blood carrying oxygen throughout Campbell's body, he would have experienced the "short of breath" feeling Taylor described seeing in his friend.

The second fatal cut went through Campbell's diaphragm, liver, and stomach. Although it would eventually have killed him, the cut through his pulmonary artery was the immediate cause of Campbell's death from blood loss.

Campbell also had two stab wounds on the back of his head that Williams said were caused by one stabbing motion--"basically one stab wound that was in and out his scalp."

Judging by the cuts, Williams said, the knife that cut into Campbell had one sharp side and one blunt side. Police never recovered the knife that was used to stab Campbell.

Williams said that the stab wounds were consistent with a fight.

Motion to Strike

With the jury out of the room and the Commonwealth's prosecution finished, Greenberg asked Judge Brett A. Kassabian to eliminate the second degree murder charge against the defendant.

Homicide requires malice, Greenberg said, arguing that even taking the Commonwealth's evidence in the most positive light showed no malice on the defendant's part.

"All the facts show no intent to kill," Greenberg said, saying that when Campbell tried to leave the fight, the defendant allowed him to. If the defendant wanted to kill the wounded Campbell, according to the defense, he would have pursued him.

Kassabian declined to strike the charge, citing the use of a weapon and the length of the stab wounds Campbell received as evidence of malice.

Campbell's Reputation

The defense called two teenaged friends of the defendant to the stand as witnesses. One night during the summer of 2010, the three teens were allegedly ambushed by Campbell and two other older boys. Pretending to be police, the older teens stole the younger teens' phones and iPods.

The teens said they didn't report the crime because their parents didn't know they were out so late. The robbery is supposedly what precipitated the argument at the 7-Eleven.

One of the defendant's friends said Campbell had a reputation for violence.

"People knew who he was and they always talked about the stuff he did," he said, although he added that Campbell didn't touch him during the robbery.

The defendant's other friend, however, disagreed, saying that Campbell had pushed the defendant against a fence and frisked him, looking for valuables.

When prosecutor Camille Turner asked the witness whether he had already told police in an earlier statement that Campbell hadn't pushed anyone, the witness said he didn't recall saying that and insisted that Campbell was involved in the robbery.

Campbell's Family

The defense called Mary Ann Meegan, Campbell's grandmother, to testify. After the argument at the 7-Eleven, Taylor and Campbell went to Meegan's nearby apartment before heading to the fight behind the convenience store.

Meegan said that Campbell stayed at her home for between 15 and 20 minutes.

Meegan said her grandson left with a golf club, the first admission by anyone associated with Campbell in the case that he had taken a golf club to the fight. A broken golf club shaft was found near the crime scene after the fight.

During cross-examination, defense attorney Caroline Costle asked Meegan if she remembered telling a Fairfax County Police Department detective that Campbell had only stayed in the apartment for a few minutes, instead of the 15-20 minutes she testified to in court. Meegan said that she remembered giving the earlier statement.

"He was happy when he came home," Meegan said. "He was angry when he left."

After Meegan, the defense called William Campbell, Campbell's 20-year-old brother.

Greenberg, who has been prevented from producing evidence about Wyatt Campbell's possible history of marijuana dealing with Taylor and Perez by a ruling from the judge, asked William Campbell whether, the day after the murder, he told FCPD Detective Dan Bibeault that his younger brother had been involved in a drug deal that went sour.

William Campbell said he didn't recall making any statement like that. When Greenberg asked him if he'd like to see the interview where he allegedly said it, Campbell refused, saying he knows what he said.

Immediately after Campbell, the defense called Bibeault to the stand. Bibeault said that William Campbell did tell him that his younger brother had told him about a recent drug deal gone bad, and explained how he chased at least one person down the street with a baseball bat as a result.

The Defendant's Brother

For the last witness of the day, the defense called David, the defendant's older brother. Patch will not publish his last name because it would make it possible to identify the minor defendant.

David, 24, worked at a Gamestop store in October 2010. After getting off work on October 14, he picked up his younger brother and took him to the 7-Eleven to buy drinks and cigarettes, but realized he didn't have any money.

As he left the store, David said, his brother pointed out Campbell sitting nearby in a car. When David confronted him, Campbell laughed, and David pushed his head.

David said Campbell then tried to get out of the car while pulling the spring-loaded knife that was later found amongst his personal effects in the hospital.

"I'm going to get you," David recalls Campbell saying to him. Soon, though, Taylor convinced Campbell not to fight in front of the store.

The two brothers left the 7-Eleven, and David came up with a plan. He'd pretend that a broken Airsoft pellet pistol they had at home was actually a real gun, and threaten Campbell and Taylor until they gave back his brother's stolen iPod.

After the brothers went to the alley, though, the plan fell apart, according to David's testimony. Campbell arrived with Taylor and Perez, and none of them were scared by the broken toy gun.

"[Perez and Taylor] just ran at me and started punching," David said. When David could see his younger brother fighting Campbell, he saw Campbell swinging something at him, then trying to tackle his younger brother.

Soon, Campbell said he had been hurt. Taylor left in his car, and Perez and Campbell left in Perez's Cherokee.

The brothers left, too, returning to their house. The younger brother had received a cut (photos taken the day after show a cut on one of his wrists), and they bandaged it up while trying not to wake their mother.

David said his brother also received a black eye and a long, straight mark, two centimeters thick, across his ribs. This would seem to be consistent with a mark from a golf club, and was not mentioned in testimony from an officer who photographed the defendant's wounds soon after the fight.

In cross-examination, David admitted telling police about the toy gun late in interviews, and initially saying his younger brother never got out of the car during the fight. He insisted at trial that his brother didn't have a knife at the fight.

"He's not allowed to carry a knife," David said.

Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Camille Turner closed the cross-examination with a series of rapid questions:

Turner: Little brother?

David: Yes.

Turner: Love him?

David: Yes.

Turner: Want to protect him?

David: Yes.

Turner: To this day.

http://kingstowne.patch.com/articles/defense-calls-victims-grandmother-brother-in-murder-trial

Update Wrote:
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> Defense Calls Victim's Grandmother, Brother in
> Murder Trial
> The defendant's brother gives his side of the
> fatal fight
>
> By Will Sommer, Kingstowne Patch, July 7, 2011,
> 7:00am
>
> It was a day for expert witnesses, foggy memories,
> and disputed testimonies as the prosecution rested
> its argument and the defense began calling
> witnesses in the second day of a Rose Hill teen
> accused of murder.
>
> The male defendant, 15-years-old at the time of
> his alleged crime, is accused of murdering
> 18-year-old Rose Hill resident Wyatt Campbell with
> a knife on October 14, 2010. It is Patch policy
> not to name minors charged with crimes.
>
> The 7-Eleven Witness
>
> The prosecution called James Lewis, a Rose Hill
> man who was walking into the 7-Eleven when the
> argument brought out between Campbell, a friend,
> and the defendant and his brother over whether
> Campbell had robbed the defendant.
>
> In court, Lewis explained a surveillance video
> taken of the 7-Eleven's entrance. Because it was
> shown at an angle away from the public, Kingstowne
> Patch can't say what the tape contained. From
> descriptions, however, it appeared to show the
> entrance to the 7-Eleven, and possibly the
> headlights of cars in front of the store.
>
> In one strange moment, Lewis described Randy
> Taylor, who is 21 years-old, as probably in his
> late thirties or early forties. Coming upon the
> situation in the parking lot, he guessed that
> Taylor was Campbell's father.
>
> Tony Perez
>
> In the morning, the prosecution called Tony Perez,
> a friend of Campbell's who took him to the
> hospital after he was stabbed. Perez described how
> he drive in the sidestreet behind the Rose Hill
> Shopping Center, saw Campbell struggling after the
> fight, and put him in his car.
>
> As he heard Campbell grow quiet on the way to the
> hospital, Perez worried that he had stopped
> fighting for his life.
>
> "You're not gone!" Perez recalled saying. "You're
> still with me!"
>
> The defense, after pointing out that Perez was on
> felony probation on the night of Campbell's death,
> asked Perez whether he participated in the fight.
>
> According to the defense's theory of the fight,
> Perez helped Campbell and Taylor fight the
> defendant and his older brother. The prosecution
> holds that Perez was not involved.
>
> "You know you're under oath right now?" said
> defense attorney Cary Greenberg asked Perez after
> he denied involvement in the fight.
>
> Medical Examiner
>
> After Perez, the jury heard from a DNA expert
> about DNA found around the crime scene (most of it
> could be attributed to Campbell) and the medical
> examiner who performed Campbell's autopsy.
>
> According to Dr. A Wayne Williams, Campbell
> received 12 stab wounds on his body, two of which
> would be fatal. The first, which went through
> cartilage around his ribs and his pulmonary
> artery, caused blood loss.
>
> With less blood carrying oxygen throughout
> Campbell's body, he would have experienced the
> "short of breath" feeling Taylor described seeing
> in his friend.
>
> The second fatal cut went through Campbell's
> diaphragm, liver, and stomach. Although it would
> eventually have killed him, the cut through his
> pulmonary artery was the immediate cause of
> Campbell's death from blood loss.
>
> Campbell also had two stab wounds on the back of
> his head that Williams said were caused by one
> stabbing motion--"basically one stab wound that
> was in and out his scalp."
>
> Judging by the cuts, Williams said, the knife that
> cut into Campbell had one sharp side and one blunt
> side. Police never recovered the knife that was
> used to stab Campbell.
>
> Williams said that the stab wounds were consistent
> with a fight.
>
> Motion to Strike
>
> With the jury out of the room and the
> Commonwealth's prosecution finished, Greenberg
> asked Judge Brett A. Kassabian to eliminate the
> second degree murder charge against the
> defendant.
>
> Homicide requires malice, Greenberg said, arguing
> that even taking the Commonwealth's evidence in
> the most positive light showed no malice on the
> defendant's part.
>
> "All the facts show no intent to kill," Greenberg
> said, saying that when Campbell tried to leave the
> fight, the defendant allowed him to. If the
> defendant wanted to kill the wounded Campbell,
> according to the defense, he would have pursued
> him.
>
> Kassabian declined to strike the charge, citing
> the use of a weapon and the length of the stab
> wounds Campbell received as evidence of malice.
>
> Campbell's Reputation
>
> The defense called two teenaged friends of the
> defendant to the stand as witnesses. One night
> during the summer of 2010, the three teens were
> allegedly ambushed by Campbell and two other older
> boys. Pretending to be police, the older teens
> stole the younger teens' phones and iPods.
>
> The teens said they didn't report the crime
> because their parents didn't know they were out so
> late. The robbery is supposedly what precipitated
> the argument at the 7-Eleven.
>
> One of the defendant's friends said Campbell had a
> reputation for violence.
>
> "People knew who he was and they always talked
> about the stuff he did," he said, although he
> added that Campbell didn't touch him during the
> robbery.
>
> The defendant's other friend, however, disagreed,
> saying that Campbell had pushed the defendant
> against a fence and frisked him, looking for
> valuables.
>
> When prosecutor Camille Turner asked the witness
> whether he had already told police in an earlier
> statement that Campbell hadn't pushed anyone, the
> witness said he didn't recall saying that and
> insisted that Campbell was involved in the
> robbery.
>
> Campbell's Family
>
> The defense called Mary Ann Meegan, Campbell's
> grandmother, to testify. After the argument at the
> 7-Eleven, Taylor and Campbell went to Meegan's
> nearby apartment before heading to the fight
> behind the convenience store.
>
> Meegan said that Campbell stayed at her home for
> between 15 and 20 minutes.
>
> Meegan said her grandson left with a golf club,
> the first admission by anyone associated with
> Campbell in the case that he had taken a golf club
> to the fight. A broken golf club shaft was found
> near the crime scene after the fight.
>
> During cross-examination, defense attorney
> Caroline Costle asked Meegan if she remembered
> telling a Fairfax County Police Department
> detective that Campbell had only stayed in the
> apartment for a few minutes, instead of the 15-20
> minutes she testified to in court. Meegan said
> that she remembered giving the earlier statement.
>
> "He was happy when he came home," Meegan said. "He
> was angry when he left."
>
> After Meegan, the defense called William Campbell,
> Campbell's 20-year-old brother.
>
> Greenberg, who has been prevented from producing
> evidence about Wyatt Campbell's possible history
> of marijuana dealing with Taylor and Perez by a
> ruling from the judge, asked William Campbell
> whether, the day after the murder, he told FCPD
> Detective Dan Bibeault that his younger brother
> had been involved in a drug deal that went sour.
>
> William Campbell said he didn't recall making any
> statement like that. When Greenberg asked him if
> he'd like to see the interview where he allegedly
> said it, Campbell refused, saying he knows what he
> said.
>
> Immediately after Campbell, the defense called
> Bibeault to the stand. Bibeault said that William
> Campbell did tell him that his younger brother had
> told him about a recent drug deal gone bad, and
> explained how he chased at least one person down
> the street with a baseball bat as a result.
>
> The Defendant's Brother
>
> For the last witness of the day, the defense
> called David, the defendant's older brother. Patch
> will not publish his last name because it would
> make it possible to identify the minor defendant.
>
> David, 24, worked at a Gamestop store in October
> 2010. After getting off work on October 14, he
> picked up his younger brother and took him to the
> 7-Eleven to buy drinks and cigarettes, but
> realized he didn't have any money.
>
> As he left the store, David said, his brother
> pointed out Campbell sitting nearby in a car. When
> David confronted him, Campbell laughed, and David
> pushed his head.
>
> David said Campbell then tried to get out of the
> car while pulling the spring-loaded knife that was
> later found amongst his personal effects in the
> hospital.
>
> "I'm going to get you," David recalls Campbell
> saying to him. Soon, though, Taylor convinced
> Campbell not to fight in front of the store.
>
> The two brothers left the 7-Eleven, and David came
> up with a plan. He'd pretend that a broken Airsoft
> pellet pistol they had at home was actually a real
> gun, and threaten Campbell and Taylor until they
> gave back his brother's stolen iPod.
>
> After the brothers went to the alley, though, the
> plan fell apart, according to David's testimony.
> Campbell arrived with Taylor and Perez, and none
> of them were scared by the broken toy gun.
>
> " just ran at me and started punching," David
> said. When David could see his younger brother
> fighting Campbell, he saw Campbell swinging
> something at him, then trying to tackle his
> younger brother.
>
> Soon, Campbell said he had been hurt. Taylor left
> in his car, and Perez and Campbell left in Perez's
> Cherokee.
>
> The brothers left, too, returning to their house.
> The younger brother had received a cut (photos
> taken the day after show a cut on one of his
> wrists), and they bandaged it up while trying not
> to wake their mother.
>
> David said his brother also received a black eye
> and a long, straight mark, two centimeters thick,
> across his ribs. This would seem to be consistent
> with a mark from a golf club, and was not
> mentioned in testimony from an officer who
> photographed the defendant's wounds soon after the
> fight.
>
> In cross-examination, David admitted telling
> police about the toy gun late in interviews, and
> initially saying his younger brother never got out
> of the car during the fight. He insisted at trial
> that his brother didn't have a knife at the
> fight.
>
> "He's not allowed to carry a knife," David said.
>
> Assistant Commonwealth's Attorney Camille Turner
> closed the cross-examination with a series of
> rapid questions:
>
> Turner: Little brother?
>
> David: Yes.
>
> Turner: Love him?
>
> David: Yes.
>
> Turner: Want to protect him?
>
> David: Yes.
>
> Turner: To this day.
>
> http://kingstowne.patch.com/articles/defense-calls
> -victims-grandmother-brother-in-murder-trial

Why do you I assume either Copy and Paste or Rewrite the whole article?? Why not just provide the link???

Why did you have to quote the entire article? Why not just ask your questions?

Curious as h*** Wrote:
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> Why do you I assume either Copy and Paste or
> Rewrite the whole article?? Why not just provide
> the link???

I copy and paste the entire article to provide ready and easy access to the facts, and thus facilitate discussion of the case which is the subject of this thread.

Also for the record, in case the link (which I do provide) goes dead at some point. With appeals, this case, and this thread, could easily go on for another year or two.


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> Why did you have to quote the entire article? Why
> not just ask your questions?

I was thinking the same thing.

To be honest I hit the Quote Button because I figured it would let the person who wrote it, know you wrote directly to them, but I see that is not the case.

Curious as h*** Wrote:
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> To be honest I hit the Quote Button because I figured it would let the person
> who wrote it, know you wrote directly to them, but I see that is not the case.

If you go through the 3 minute signup as a user name then you can Private Message other valid usernames (the ones in Blue.

lol @ the people who kept saying the facts will come out at the trial. looks like gordon and mephisto were right about more stuff than wyatt's supporters. "randy is a liar and won't be testifying at the trial." whoops! "wyatt was set-up so they could rob him of his safe." whoops! "wyatt didn't have a reputation as a drug dealer." whoops!

all the people who "know the truth" obviously don't. when are y'all gonna apologize for all the shit talking you did?

We will apologize when the smiths go to hell

Well thanks for not including jpg trash.

Anyway, Wyatt didn't have a record for drugs, or any record for that matter. And he wasn't ever on the police radar.
Those are facts, not fiction.

Jury verdict came around 10:00 am. Steven Smith was found Not Guilty. Older brother was arrested for contempt of court. Made several outbursts after the verdict was read. Given 3 days in jail.

Stephen Smith found not guilty per kingstowne patch!! Wow

End of round one for Steven Smith. His Juvy issues probably won't be made public.

The prosecution failled to prove to the jury that the Smith kid caused the death of Wyatt Campbell beyond a reasonable doubt.

Sad end to a bad chapter for all involved.

Our hearts and prayers go out to those involved in the tragic death of Wyatt Campbell.

Interesting. And yes, sad indeed.