To All Drivers

When driving, please DO NOT SLAM ON YOUR BRAKES when you see that a cop has a vehicle pulled over on the side of the road.

The police officer WILL NOT ask that person to wait while they get back in the car to come after you.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2007 09:40AM by Tia2.

wow, two drafts...

Kiev Wrote:
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> wow, two drafts...

LOL



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2007 10:59AM by Lurker..

ROFL



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2007 11:07AM by Kiev.

I hate when people do that, it has caused numerous wrecks in Amerikkka. But at least we're not in Russia, in which they hit the pedal. For proof, go to youtube and search for russian tunnel crashes.

thoze russiannzzz

Kiev Wrote:
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> wow, two drafts...


The first time I posted, I was angry due to the idiots on the way to work today.
The second time I edited was because I was still angry....

you need to relax.

a good workout at a gym should help :)

I'll try...
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LOL

MetLife didn't have anger management courses? Best that you visit TRICKIE's gym. I'm glad that you're okay.

Tia2 Rarely Shows
Her Anger
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Yes Tia, come to my gym.We have Pilates and yoga classes and even a cardio theater.

lol
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I KNOW!! I HATE THAT.

Ive heard that sometimes, if a cop is sitting on a road somewhere and you pass by without braking (as long as you arent going ridiculously over the speed limit) they will just let it slide. Reason they would give you a ticket when you braked is because you knew you were doing wrong!

Andrea Wrote:
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> Ive heard that sometimes, if a cop is sitting on a
> road somewhere and you pass by without braking (as
> long as you arent going ridiculously over the
> speed limit) they will just let it slide.

That's not true at all.

Finch Wrote:
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> lol

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Please only clean cats, no hairballers or wormies. No catnip addicts!

If you are really serious send me some pics and we'll chase a sting or laser light first, then maybe more.

Well whatever, thats just the experience Ive had.

There have been more than a few times where Ive been going a little too much over the speed limit, and when I have passed cops, Ive gotten followed after braking, unlike if I just ease off the gas and continue on my way.

People around here while driving are in general just extreme dipshits. I have never seen so many people slow to a stop and drive so slowly over a fender bender or a police car with its lights on (OMFG!!!!!). In California it's routine to still pass chp going 80-90 while they are at an accident scene, some people even taunt them speeding up and slowing down as they pass (this happened when I was in CA and in a wreck and a chp officer told me some passer by was doing this). The other week I was coming south on the FFX parkway and from the amount of backup I thought for sure that was at least a few fatalities there were 2 fire trucks, 4 police cars, and 2 ambulance, I passed the accident and it was a simple fender bender with some smashed taillights. But they still closed off a lane with some flares and were directing traffic. Idiots.

Usually the idiot around here just go slow all the time, cops or not. That and when the light turns green they just sit there, as if they're waiting for it to turn REALLY green...

Tomahawk Wrote:
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> when the light turns
> green they just sit there, as if they're waiting
> for it to turn REALLY green...

LOL! sooooo true.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

before you know it, its red again.

Tomahawk Wrote:
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> Usually the idiot around here just go slow all the
> time, cops or not. That and when the light turns
> green they just sit there, as if they're waiting
> for it to turn REALLY green...


The other day I was making a left turn behind another car and the light went from yellow to red. After the light hit red, the green arrow light came on underneath it then the yellow arrow light, I honked my horn at them and the occupants became visibly uncomfortable and probably thought I was going to assault them or something. So then the light is red for real and they then decide to inch out into the intersection a bit. Now I try not to be racist but I notice the most egregious bad drivers around here are Asian or more often than not Indian as was this case. (There was about 8 of them in this 5 person van all in their saris).

so true, asians can't drive to save their life, and there are so damn many asians here in nova too....

Be nice. These folks just go off the boat. Driving in our local traffic is vastly different than in their countries. And the cars are different, also. And just 'cause they are short and can't see the road except through the steering wheel is just s small inconvenience or 'cause their head gear blocks their vision. Remember, these new Americans raise smart kids that go to Thomas Jefferson and gifted schools. You gotta admire that.

Iso Sari
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Why do people stop 25 feet back from the stop line?

Nothing drives me crazy more than when a person stops 25 back from an intersection!

Jester Wrote:
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> Why do people stop 25 feet back from the stop
> line?
>
> Nothing drives me crazy more than when a person
> stops 25 back from an intersection!

especially when its a sensor light and they don't trip because the guy is too far back..

For those who wonder what Tia2 looks like when she's angry:
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Jimmy Wrote:
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> Be nice. These folks just go off the boat.
> Driving in our local traffic is vastly different
> than in their countries. And the cars are
> different, also. And just 'cause they are short
> and can't see the road except through the steering
> wheel is just s small inconvenience or 'cause
> their head gear blocks their vision. Remember,
> these new Americans raise smart kids that go to
> Thomas Jefferson and gifted schools. You gotta
> admire that.
>
> Iso Sari


I hear ya man, I've always wondered how come Asians can design and build some of the finest cars in the world (Lexus, etc)...FAR better cars than any of the junk made here....yet they can't drive a damn lick! LOL

Jester, I think I know somebody who'll yiff with ya.

Personally, I'm an Angora Rabbit fan...
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Andrea Wrote:
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> I KNOW!! I HATE THAT.
>
> Ive heard that sometimes, if a cop is sitting on a
> road somewhere and you pass by without braking (as
> long as you arent going ridiculously over the
> speed limit) they will just let it slide. Reason
> they would give you a ticket when you braked is
> because you knew you were doing wrong!


Actually if there is an emergency vehicle on the side of the road with its emergency lights activated you must:

1) Move to a different lane
2) or slow down

Failure to do so is a class 1 misdemeanor and is a 6-point offense. Many police officers are killed because they are struck by cars.

Try standing on the side of one of the major roads sometime and see what it's like to have cars whiz by you at 60-80 MPH.

Now, when people slam on their brakes because they were speeding the truth is that it is too late. If the cop wanted to get you he would have already had you on RADAR or LIDAR. A simple lift off the gas and moving to another lane would be more than sufficient and a whole lot safer.

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§ 46.2-921.1. Drivers to yield right-of-way or reduce speed when approaching stationary emergency vehicles on highways; penalties.

The driver of any motor vehicle, upon approaching a stationary emergency vehicle, as defined in § 46.2-920, that is displaying a flashing, blinking, or alternating emergency light or lights as provided in §§ 46.2-1022, 46.2-1023, and 46.2-1024, shall (i) on a highway having at least four lanes, at least two of which are intended for traffic proceeding as the approaching vehicle, proceed with caution and, if reasonable, with due regard for safety and traffic conditions, yield the right-of-way by making a lane change into a lane not adjacent to that occupied by the stationary emergency vehicle or (ii) if changing lanes would be unreasonable or unsafe, proceed with due caution and maintain a safe speed for highway conditions.

Violation of any provision of this section shall constitute a Class 1 misdemeanor. If the violation resulted in damage to property of another person, the court may, in addition, order the suspension of the driver's privilege to operate a motor vehicle for not more than one year. If the violation resulted in injury to another person, the court may, in addition to any other penalty imposed, order the suspension of the driver's privilege to operate a motor vehicle for not more than two years. If the violation resulted in the death of another person, the court may, in addition to any other penalty imposed, order the suspension of the driver's privilege to operate a motor vehicle for two years.

(2002, cc. 163, 341.)

Im well aware of the need to slow down for emergency vehicles with their lights on, but Im just talking about cops randomly sitting around trying to catch speeders.

Yes, if they wanted to pull you over they would, but there are some lazy cops (thank god!)

Unless you see the officer out of his car, you have no idea whether the traffic stop is at its beginning or its end. Keep speeding past pulled over cops and one day you will end up speeding past one where the pulled over driver is already gone.

Andrea Wrote:
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> Im well aware of the need to slow down for
> emergency vehicles with their lights on, but Im
> just talking about cops randomly sitting around
> trying to catch speeders.
>
> Yes, if they wanted to pull you over they would,
> but there are some lazy cops (thank god!)

Have you stopped to think that it's not the brake lights that's giving you away? The truth of the matter is that by the time you actually see the cop and react, it's too late. The RADAR provides a reading within a matter of milliseconds when the hold button is released and the beam is activated. In the case of LIDAR it will respond within .3 seconds of the trigger pull.

Given the average reaction time of about 1-second, that means that the brake lights have nothing to do with getting pulled over. The speed is what is getting people pulled over.

Well, one could argue that because the cops are targeting repeat offenders, when they see somebody slam on their brakes (a bad move as far as driving, btw), they think - "hey wow, these guys really don't want to get pulled over".. and they cross their fingers hoping for somebody without a license and hit the switch for the lights..

> § 46.2-921.1. Drivers to yield right-of-way or
> reduce speed when approaching stationary emergency
> vehicles on highways; penalties.
>
> The driver of any motor vehicle, upon approaching
> a stationary emergency vehicle, as defined in §
> 46.2-920, that is displaying a flashing, blinking,
> or alternating emergency light or lights as
> provided in §§ 46.2-1022, 46.2-1023, and
> 46.2-1024, shall (i) on a highway having at least
> four lanes, at least two of which are intended for
> traffic proceeding as the approaching vehicle,
> proceed with caution and, if reasonable, with due
> regard for safety and traffic conditions, yield
> the right-of-way by making a lane change into a
> lane not adjacent to that occupied by the
> stationary emergency vehicle or (ii) if changing
> lanes would be unreasonable or unsafe, proceed
> with due caution and maintain a safe speed for
> highway conditions.
>
> Violation of any provision of this section shall
> constitute a Class 1 misdemeanor. If the violation
> resulted in damage to property of another person,
> the court may, in addition, order the suspension
> of the driver's privilege to operate a motor
> vehicle for not more than one year. If the
> violation resulted in injury to another person,
> the court may, in addition to any other penalty
> imposed, order the suspension of the driver's
> privilege to operate a motor vehicle for not more
> than two years. If the violation resulted in the
> death of another person, the court may, in
> addition to any other penalty imposed, order the
> suspension of the driver's privilege to operate a
> motor vehicle for two years.
>
> (2002, cc. 163, 341.)

OK..
Driving down route 28 the shoulder is on the right side. I'm driving in the left lane going more than 55mph. The person in front of me sees the lights on the RIGHT shoulder and slams on their brakes!

I repeat - DO NOT DO THIS as the above clearly states to PROCEED WITH CAUTION AND MAINTAIN a safe speed for traffic conditions!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/16/2007 10:51AM by Tia2.

bdimag Wrote:
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> Well, one could argue that because the cops are
> targeting repeat offenders, when they see somebody
> slam on their brakes (a bad move as far as
> driving, btw), they think - "hey wow, these guys
> really don't want to get pulled over".. and they
> cross their fingers hoping for somebody without a
> license and hit the switch for the lights..


Ummm... no. Seriously where do you people get this stuff? It's called probable cause. Simply applying the brakes is not probable cause. You cannot stop someone simply because they put their brakes on.

By the time you have put on your brakes it's too late. If they were running LIDAR or RADAR you're already done. And THAT is your Probable Cause.

your misunderstanding...

i (as well as everyone else) know its too late by the time you put your brakes on.. duh..

if they're gunning, they're always going to get your speed on li/radar... HOWEVER, what's NOT for sure is if theyre going to pull you over or not.. THAT is what I (and i'm sure Andrea) am (is) talking about..



i can't imagine how you don't realize how obvious what youre saying is.. and i don't know why you would believe that ANYONE thinks braking is illegal..



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2007 12:57PM by bdimag.