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Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
duty calls
()
Date: November 13, 2011 02:48PM
This last poster has it right. People do not know what goes on in the schools and how hard our teachers work. It's the yo-yo's in central administration who should the wrath of parent outrage. Talk about overpaid for "work" that benefits neither teacher or child. Look at the class sizes in part of this county. Some of these teachers have classes approaching 40 students. Think about how many papers that is to correct - how many parents they must speak with. And then layer onto that the burdensome paperwork required by central HQ. FCPS Teachers - THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
mrs k
()
Date: November 13, 2011 02:53PM
yeah right... no one believes that not even the teachers who know they got a scam going on
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Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
get off the high horse
()
Date: November 13, 2011 02:57PM
c'mon! Wrote:
> This is such BS. I have never, ever gotten on off
> hours e-mail from one of my kids teachers. Last
> week, I was in the middle of an e-mail exchange on
> Tuesday with a teacher (nothing negative in any
> way), and for the three snow days.....nothing.
> She came back online on Monday.
>
> So yes, others get to work from home and set their
> own schedule. But that also means that when there
> is a snow day, work does not come to a complete
> halt. I'm sorry, but it looks to me like you
> already just leave everything at school when the
> day ends, and on snow days you are just like kids
> - no work for you.
So what you really mean to say is that youre upset that they arent responding to you 24 hours a day at the drop of the hat. Whatever it was it can wait. Yes they get snowdays off. They also dont get the 90 minute lunch breaks you get or the 15 minute smoke breaks every hour and cant go to the bathroom whenever they want or run errands during the day ect ect ect. If you think its so easy go be a teacher and deal with parents like yourself who view them more as a personal employee than a teacher. They grade stuff at home all the time.
Also have you ever considered maybe you didnt get a response because your issue just wasnt very important or you demand way to much correspondence. They shouldnt be expected to spend all of their off time emailing back and forth with 30 kids parents
> This is such BS. I have never, ever gotten on off
> hours e-mail from one of my kids teachers. Last
> week, I was in the middle of an e-mail exchange on
> Tuesday with a teacher (nothing negative in any
> way), and for the three snow days.....nothing.
> She came back online on Monday.
>
> So yes, others get to work from home and set their
> own schedule. But that also means that when there
> is a snow day, work does not come to a complete
> halt. I'm sorry, but it looks to me like you
> already just leave everything at school when the
> day ends, and on snow days you are just like kids
> - no work for you.
So what you really mean to say is that youre upset that they arent responding to you 24 hours a day at the drop of the hat. Whatever it was it can wait. Yes they get snowdays off. They also dont get the 90 minute lunch breaks you get or the 15 minute smoke breaks every hour and cant go to the bathroom whenever they want or run errands during the day ect ect ect. If you think its so easy go be a teacher and deal with parents like yourself who view them more as a personal employee than a teacher. They grade stuff at home all the time.
Also have you ever considered maybe you didnt get a response because your issue just wasnt very important or you demand way to much correspondence. They shouldnt be expected to spend all of their off time emailing back and forth with 30 kids parents
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
its a scam
()
Date: November 13, 2011 03:16PM
You get paid to have the whole summer off, best keep quiet.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
wrong
()
Date: November 13, 2011 03:22PM
its a scam Wrote:
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> You get paid to have the whole summer off, best
> keep quiet.
No, they dont get paid over the summer.
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> You get paid to have the whole summer off, best
> keep quiet.
No, they dont get paid over the summer.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
yes they do
()
Date: November 13, 2011 03:48PM
You have the option of being paid only during the school year or having it averaged out over the entire year. Because you choose to be paid only when school is in session is a personal choice. Stop lying.
When teachers whine about their pay they compare it to the private sector. The private sector pay doesnt get the whole summer off stop it.
When teachers whine about their pay they compare it to the private sector. The private sector pay doesnt get the whole summer off stop it.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
wrong
()
Date: November 13, 2011 03:52PM
yes they do Wrote:
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> You have the option of being paid only during the
> school year or having it averaged out over the
> entire year. Because you choose to be paid only
> when school is in session is a personal choice.
> Stop lying.
>
> When teachers whine about their pay they compare
> it to the private sector. The private sector pay
> doesnt get the whole summer off stop it.
Having pay rationed out over the year doesnt mean you are being paid for the whole year. They are being paid for the school year. If they get checks the whole year thats because they took less during the school year. Spreading your pay out isnt being paid for the whole year.
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> You have the option of being paid only during the
> school year or having it averaged out over the
> entire year. Because you choose to be paid only
> when school is in session is a personal choice.
> Stop lying.
>
> When teachers whine about their pay they compare
> it to the private sector. The private sector pay
> doesnt get the whole summer off stop it.
Having pay rationed out over the year doesnt mean you are being paid for the whole year. They are being paid for the school year. If they get checks the whole year thats because they took less during the school year. Spreading your pay out isnt being paid for the whole year.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
you need to stop
()
Date: November 13, 2011 03:58PM
Stop muddying the waters. The pay is set at whatever rate in reagrds to grade/step and it is for the year. Whether you accept it during the summer or not is your choice. Stop trying to avoid the truth.
I recommend if the job is too tough or the pay too low then find something else and quit complaining. A few weeks in the private sector where results count and you will be banging on the school doors to get back in.
I recommend if the job is too tough or the pay too low then find something else and quit complaining. A few weeks in the private sector where results count and you will be banging on the school doors to get back in.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
wrong
()
Date: November 13, 2011 04:02PM
you need to stop Wrote:
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> Stop muddying the waters. The pay is set at
> whatever rate in reagrds to grade/step and it is
> for the year. Whether you accept it during the
> summer or not is your choice. Stop trying to avoid
> the truth.
>
> I recommend if the job is too tough or the pay too
> low then find something else and quit complaining.
> A few weeks in the private sector where results
> count and you will be banging on the school doors
> to get back in.
Im not a teacher. Im just stating facts. Its really not that hard to understand. They are paid for the school year period. They can take their pay during just the school year. Thats their pay. Its not hard to understand. Spreading it out over the whole year doesnt mean that you are being paid for the whole year. Its the same amount based off of the school year given in smaller increments.
If you got paid 12 dollars to walk a dog if they gave you the 12 dollars 1 dollar a month for the whole year doesnt mean you are getting paid for the whole year. Its quite simple
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> Stop muddying the waters. The pay is set at
> whatever rate in reagrds to grade/step and it is
> for the year. Whether you accept it during the
> summer or not is your choice. Stop trying to avoid
> the truth.
>
> I recommend if the job is too tough or the pay too
> low then find something else and quit complaining.
> A few weeks in the private sector where results
> count and you will be banging on the school doors
> to get back in.
Im not a teacher. Im just stating facts. Its really not that hard to understand. They are paid for the school year period. They can take their pay during just the school year. Thats their pay. Its not hard to understand. Spreading it out over the whole year doesnt mean that you are being paid for the whole year. Its the same amount based off of the school year given in smaller increments.
If you got paid 12 dollars to walk a dog if they gave you the 12 dollars 1 dollar a month for the whole year doesnt mean you are getting paid for the whole year. Its quite simple
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
you do need to stop it
()
Date: November 13, 2011 04:15PM
If a teacher gets paid $50,000 for the year and takes it all in one month that is still a years salary. So stop saying if they take it for nine months they are not getting paid. 50k is 50k whether they take it in nine months or tweleve .
If teachers want to compare their salary to the private sector then they need to average it out. Go ahead and average their salary to someone who works twelve months a year at $50,000 and doesnt have the summer off, see who comes out ahead.
My point still stands, if they hate it so much or think they are being screwed then find another job. I can assure you in the private sector no one has the summer off but a lifeguard and everyone who makes decent money takes their work home with them. Just a statement of facts.
If teachers want to compare their salary to the private sector then they need to average it out. Go ahead and average their salary to someone who works twelve months a year at $50,000 and doesnt have the summer off, see who comes out ahead.
My point still stands, if they hate it so much or think they are being screwed then find another job. I can assure you in the private sector no one has the summer off but a lifeguard and everyone who makes decent money takes their work home with them. Just a statement of facts.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
wrong
()
Date: November 13, 2011 04:26PM
you do need to stop it Wrote:
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> If a teacher gets paid $50,000 for the year and
> takes it all in one month that is still a years
> salary. So stop saying if they take it for nine
> months they are not getting paid. 50k is 50k
> whether they take it in nine months or tweleve .
>
> If teachers want to compare their salary to the
> private sector then they need to average it out.
> Go ahead and average their salary to someone who
> works twelve months a year at $50,000 and doesnt
> have the summer off, see who comes out ahead.
>
> My point still stands, if they hate it so much or
> think they are being screwed then find another
> job. I can assure you in the private sector no one
> has the summer off but a lifeguard and everyone
> who makes decent money takes their work home with
> them. Just a statement of facts.
Their salary is prorated for the time they work. They are not being paid what they would make if it was based off the whole year. Its not hard to understand. They would make 50 grand if their salary was for 12 months. Its not, they dont make that.
You keep saying private sector this private sector that. What does that have to do with anything? In the private sector you get to take hourly smoke breaks, 90 minute lunches, surf the web during work, make personal calls at work, do errands at lunch or between meetings if you travel for work, call in sick whenever you want, some work from home, go to fancy lunches for business, play golf with clients ect ect. The time wasted at private sector jobs doing personal things or screwing around on the web makes the time off very comparable.
Again im not a teacher but the fact that a bunch of you parents are complaining they make to much because they didnt respond to your email, that probably is better addressed by you parenting youre own kid in the first place, in 5 minutes or werent at school on a teacher work day doing their grades is absurd. People just like to complain and pretend like everyone has it better than they do.
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> If a teacher gets paid $50,000 for the year and
> takes it all in one month that is still a years
> salary. So stop saying if they take it for nine
> months they are not getting paid. 50k is 50k
> whether they take it in nine months or tweleve .
>
> If teachers want to compare their salary to the
> private sector then they need to average it out.
> Go ahead and average their salary to someone who
> works twelve months a year at $50,000 and doesnt
> have the summer off, see who comes out ahead.
>
> My point still stands, if they hate it so much or
> think they are being screwed then find another
> job. I can assure you in the private sector no one
> has the summer off but a lifeguard and everyone
> who makes decent money takes their work home with
> them. Just a statement of facts.
Their salary is prorated for the time they work. They are not being paid what they would make if it was based off the whole year. Its not hard to understand. They would make 50 grand if their salary was for 12 months. Its not, they dont make that.
You keep saying private sector this private sector that. What does that have to do with anything? In the private sector you get to take hourly smoke breaks, 90 minute lunches, surf the web during work, make personal calls at work, do errands at lunch or between meetings if you travel for work, call in sick whenever you want, some work from home, go to fancy lunches for business, play golf with clients ect ect. The time wasted at private sector jobs doing personal things or screwing around on the web makes the time off very comparable.
Again im not a teacher but the fact that a bunch of you parents are complaining they make to much because they didnt respond to your email, that probably is better addressed by you parenting youre own kid in the first place, in 5 minutes or werent at school on a teacher work day doing their grades is absurd. People just like to complain and pretend like everyone has it better than they do.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
itk
()
Date: November 13, 2011 06:29PM
You can stop bickering. After this school year, the Summer Pay plan is a thing of the past.
Gone, no more, fini.
Gone, no more, fini.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
comparing
()
Date: November 13, 2011 06:34PM
I have worked in both "sectors"---private (in a professional job) and as a teacher. I can tell you that being a teacher is WAAAAAAY harder. Hands down. The responsibility and unpredictability in teaching is quite stressful. I would not know how to begin to compare it to private sector. Apples and oranges completely. People who are teachers are there because they want to teach. They basically want to do their job an do it well. The complaints mostly come from the many extra things they are asked to do that are not teaching. And there are more and more of those things assigned to them. The main thing that they need is to be treated like professionals and to be given pay that allows them to live a middle class existence in this county. The fact that they do not work 12 months is the nature of the job---they did not decide on that. Many of them do other work during the summer. The thing that bothers me is when I see them taking second jobs at night (bartending, etc.). I do not believe a teacher should be dividing himself or herself this way. It just causes more stress (money worries). The teacher needs to be at least financially stable enough to keep his/her mind on the classroom and helping kids. Less than that hurts the students. I see many young teachers bartending, waiting tables, etc. at night and on weekends. Not good!
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
its all about the children
()
Date: November 13, 2011 06:47PM
Take a survey of teachers who are in favor of year round school and you will hear a scream. Most of the ones I know have stated they would find something else if they cant have their 2 months off.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
c'mon
()
Date: November 13, 2011 07:48PM
get off the high horse Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> c'mon! Wrote:
>
> > This is such BS. I have never, ever gotten on
> off
> > hours e-mail from one of my kids teachers.
> Last
> > week, I was in the middle of an e-mail exchange
> on
> > Tuesday with a teacher (nothing negative in any
> > way), and for the three snow days.....nothing.
> > She came back online on Monday.
> >
> > So yes, others get to work from home and set
> their
> > own schedule. But that also means that when
> there
> > is a snow day, work does not come to a complete
> > halt. I'm sorry, but it looks to me like you
> > already just leave everything at school when
> the
> > day ends, and on snow days you are just like
> kids
> > - no work for you.
>
>
> So what you really mean to say is that youre upset
> that they arent responding to you 24 hours a day
> at the drop of the hat. Whatever it was it can
> wait. Yes they get snowdays off. They also dont
> get the 90 minute lunch breaks you get or the 15
> minute smoke breaks every hour and cant go to the
> bathroom whenever they want or run errands during
> the day ect ect ect. If you think its so easy go
> be a teacher and deal with parents like yourself
> who view them more as a personal employee than a
> teacher. They grade stuff at home all the time.
>
>
> Also have you ever considered maybe you didnt get
> a response because your issue just wasnt very
> important or you demand way to much
> correspondence. They shouldnt be expected to
> spend all of their off time emailing back and
> forth with 30 kids parents
That's right, no parent can have a legitimate issue. It's always our fault, never the teacher.
BTW, if you think the private sector is 90 minute lunches and 15 minute smoke breaks every hour, you are hopelessly out of touch.
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> c'mon! Wrote:
>
> > This is such BS. I have never, ever gotten on
> off
> > hours e-mail from one of my kids teachers.
> Last
> > week, I was in the middle of an e-mail exchange
> on
> > Tuesday with a teacher (nothing negative in any
> > way), and for the three snow days.....nothing.
> > She came back online on Monday.
> >
> > So yes, others get to work from home and set
> their
> > own schedule. But that also means that when
> there
> > is a snow day, work does not come to a complete
> > halt. I'm sorry, but it looks to me like you
> > already just leave everything at school when
> the
> > day ends, and on snow days you are just like
> kids
> > - no work for you.
>
>
> So what you really mean to say is that youre upset
> that they arent responding to you 24 hours a day
> at the drop of the hat. Whatever it was it can
> wait. Yes they get snowdays off. They also dont
> get the 90 minute lunch breaks you get or the 15
> minute smoke breaks every hour and cant go to the
> bathroom whenever they want or run errands during
> the day ect ect ect. If you think its so easy go
> be a teacher and deal with parents like yourself
> who view them more as a personal employee than a
> teacher. They grade stuff at home all the time.
>
>
> Also have you ever considered maybe you didnt get
> a response because your issue just wasnt very
> important or you demand way to much
> correspondence. They shouldnt be expected to
> spend all of their off time emailing back and
> forth with 30 kids parents
That's right, no parent can have a legitimate issue. It's always our fault, never the teacher.
BTW, if you think the private sector is 90 minute lunches and 15 minute smoke breaks every hour, you are hopelessly out of touch.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
get off the high horse
()
Date: November 13, 2011 07:57PM
c'mon Wrote:
> That's right, no parent can have a legitimate
> issue. It's always our fault, never the teacher.
>
>
> BTW, if you think the private sector is 90 minute
> lunches and 15 minute smoke breaks every hour, you
> are hopelessly out of touch.
They can and do have legitimate issues but when you complain like that that they didnt get back to you immediately that day or over the weekend you come off as one of those parents. The point was its not something that couldnt wait till the start of the new school week. Maybe they got emails from a bunch of other parents that weekend too.
People in the private sector take smoke breaks all the time and long lunches. 90 minutes may have been long but you get the point. Lets not kid ourselfs that private sector employees are working from the time they show up till the time they leave.
> That's right, no parent can have a legitimate
> issue. It's always our fault, never the teacher.
>
>
> BTW, if you think the private sector is 90 minute
> lunches and 15 minute smoke breaks every hour, you
> are hopelessly out of touch.
They can and do have legitimate issues but when you complain like that that they didnt get back to you immediately that day or over the weekend you come off as one of those parents. The point was its not something that couldnt wait till the start of the new school week. Maybe they got emails from a bunch of other parents that weekend too.
People in the private sector take smoke breaks all the time and long lunches. 90 minutes may have been long but you get the point. Lets not kid ourselfs that private sector employees are working from the time they show up till the time they leave.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
teacher
()
Date: November 13, 2011 08:04PM
its all about the children Wrote:
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> Take a survey of teachers who are in favor of year
> round school and you will hear a scream. Most of
> the ones I know have stated they would find
> something else if they cant have their 2 months
> off.
So? I'll be the first to admit that I enjoy my UNPAID two month break.
I know of industries that shut down over the winter.
If you are jealous of long unpaid breaks, why not change careers?
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> Take a survey of teachers who are in favor of year
> round school and you will hear a scream. Most of
> the ones I know have stated they would find
> something else if they cant have their 2 months
> off.
So? I'll be the first to admit that I enjoy my UNPAID two month break.
I know of industries that shut down over the winter.
If you are jealous of long unpaid breaks, why not change careers?
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
c'mon
()
Date: November 13, 2011 08:07PM
get off the high horse Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> c'mon Wrote:
>
> > That's right, no parent can have a legitimate
> > issue. It's always our fault, never the
> teacher.
> >
> >
> > BTW, if you think the private sector is 90
> minute
> > lunches and 15 minute smoke breaks every hour,
> you
> > are hopelessly out of touch.
>
>
> They can and do have legitimate issues but when
> you complain like that that they didnt get back to
> you immediately that day or over the weekend you
> come off as one of those parents. The point was
> its not something that couldnt wait till the start
> of the new school week. Maybe they got emails
> from a bunch of other parents that weekend too.
>
> People in the private sector take smoke breaks all
> the time and long lunches. 90 minutes may have
> been long but you get the point. Lets not kid
> ourselfs that private sector employees are working
> from the time they show up till the time they
> leave.
I think you've watched too many episodes of Mad Men. That's just not the way it is in the private sector, at least not anymore. And responding promptly to e-mail is a basic professional expectation. Someone who cannot organize themselves to deal promptly with the communications required for their jobs shouldn't be in that job.
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> c'mon Wrote:
>
> > That's right, no parent can have a legitimate
> > issue. It's always our fault, never the
> teacher.
> >
> >
> > BTW, if you think the private sector is 90
> minute
> > lunches and 15 minute smoke breaks every hour,
> you
> > are hopelessly out of touch.
>
>
> They can and do have legitimate issues but when
> you complain like that that they didnt get back to
> you immediately that day or over the weekend you
> come off as one of those parents. The point was
> its not something that couldnt wait till the start
> of the new school week. Maybe they got emails
> from a bunch of other parents that weekend too.
>
> People in the private sector take smoke breaks all
> the time and long lunches. 90 minutes may have
> been long but you get the point. Lets not kid
> ourselfs that private sector employees are working
> from the time they show up till the time they
> leave.
I think you've watched too many episodes of Mad Men. That's just not the way it is in the private sector, at least not anymore. And responding promptly to e-mail is a basic professional expectation. Someone who cannot organize themselves to deal promptly with the communications required for their jobs shouldn't be in that job.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
please
()
Date: November 13, 2011 08:08PM
Can we please stop arguing about who works the hardest, longest, etc.?? It makes it sound like everyone hates working and wants to do as little as possible. If you worry that someone else is not working as hard as you are, maybe you are in the wrong job.
What is dangerous and destructive are parents who do not teach their children that teachers deserve respect and cooperation. Teachers are very respected in many parts of the world. We had better stop all this whining and start supporting the system that can help our kids! If you don't like this system, get involved and help to change it.
As for summer break, I am sure many teachers need a break from the intensity of the job or to take classes, etc. What's wrong with that? If they worked summers, we would have to increase taxes to pay them more (since they don't get compensated for 2 months right now).
What is dangerous and destructive are parents who do not teach their children that teachers deserve respect and cooperation. Teachers are very respected in many parts of the world. We had better stop all this whining and start supporting the system that can help our kids! If you don't like this system, get involved and help to change it.
As for summer break, I am sure many teachers need a break from the intensity of the job or to take classes, etc. What's wrong with that? If they worked summers, we would have to increase taxes to pay them more (since they don't get compensated for 2 months right now).
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
get off the high horse
()
Date: November 13, 2011 08:18PM
c'mon Wrote:
> And responding
> promptly to e-mail is a basic professional
> expectation. Someone who cannot organize
> themselves to deal promptly with the
> communications required for their jobs shouldn't
> be in that job.
Responding to an email on the next school or work day is considered prompt. Maybe you should have sent the email before Friday night or the weekend if it was so important. Again youre treating the teacher like they are an employee of yours expecting them to respond after hours or on a weekend. This is why I feel your issue wasnt very important in the first place since you waited until a weekend night and are coming across with an attitude that your issues should be dealt with when it is convenient for you to bring them up.
> And responding
> promptly to e-mail is a basic professional
> expectation. Someone who cannot organize
> themselves to deal promptly with the
> communications required for their jobs shouldn't
> be in that job.
Responding to an email on the next school or work day is considered prompt. Maybe you should have sent the email before Friday night or the weekend if it was so important. Again youre treating the teacher like they are an employee of yours expecting them to respond after hours or on a weekend. This is why I feel your issue wasnt very important in the first place since you waited until a weekend night and are coming across with an attitude that your issues should be dealt with when it is convenient for you to bring them up.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
c'mon
()
Date: November 13, 2011 08:42PM
get off the high horse Wrote:
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> c'mon Wrote:
>
> > And responding
> > promptly to e-mail is a basic professional
> > expectation. Someone who cannot organize
> > themselves to deal promptly with the
> > communications required for their jobs
> shouldn't
> > be in that job.
>
>
> Responding to an email on the next school or work
> day is considered prompt. Maybe you should have
> sent the email before Friday night or the weekend
> if it was so important. Again youre treating the
> teacher like they are an employee of yours
> expecting them to respond after hours or on a
> weekend. This is why I feel your issue wasnt very
> important in the first place since you waited
> until a weekend night and are coming across with
> an attitude that your issues should be dealt with
> when it is convenient for you to bring them up.
What I had said was during 3 day snow day period, the teacher went completely offline. I never said I sent an e-mail on a Friday or weekend - you just made that up. But if that's what it takes for you to defend them, whatever.
I am expecting the teacher to behave like a professional employee - that they respond promptly to communication and don't use snow days as an excuse to stop working completely. With all of the investment in Blackboard and now online text books, I really don't understand why they don't have standing snow day assignments or assignments that can be posted to BB when a snow day occurs. I know why the children are thrilled with snow days, it just seems to me that the adults could act like, well, adults and not use a little snow as an excuse to stop working.
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> c'mon Wrote:
>
> > And responding
> > promptly to e-mail is a basic professional
> > expectation. Someone who cannot organize
> > themselves to deal promptly with the
> > communications required for their jobs
> shouldn't
> > be in that job.
>
>
> Responding to an email on the next school or work
> day is considered prompt. Maybe you should have
> sent the email before Friday night or the weekend
> if it was so important. Again youre treating the
> teacher like they are an employee of yours
> expecting them to respond after hours or on a
> weekend. This is why I feel your issue wasnt very
> important in the first place since you waited
> until a weekend night and are coming across with
> an attitude that your issues should be dealt with
> when it is convenient for you to bring them up.
What I had said was during 3 day snow day period, the teacher went completely offline. I never said I sent an e-mail on a Friday or weekend - you just made that up. But if that's what it takes for you to defend them, whatever.
I am expecting the teacher to behave like a professional employee - that they respond promptly to communication and don't use snow days as an excuse to stop working completely. With all of the investment in Blackboard and now online text books, I really don't understand why they don't have standing snow day assignments or assignments that can be posted to BB when a snow day occurs. I know why the children are thrilled with snow days, it just seems to me that the adults could act like, well, adults and not use a little snow as an excuse to stop working.
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
get off the high horse
()
Date: November 13, 2011 08:55PM
c'mon Wrote:
> What I had said was during 3 day snow day period,
> the teacher went completely offline. I never said
> I sent an e-mail on a Friday or weekend - you just
> made that up. But if that's what it takes for you
> to defend them, whatever.
>
> I am expecting the teacher to behave like a
> professional employee - that they respond promptly
> to communication and don't use snow days as an
> excuse to stop working completely. With all of
> the investment in Blackboard and now online text
> books, I really don't understand why they don't
> have standing snow day assignments or assignments
> that can be posted to BB when a snow day occurs.
> I know why the children are thrilled with snow
> days, it just seems to me that the adults could
> act like, well, adults and not use a little snow
> as an excuse to stop working.
A snow period is the same as a weekend. It is a day where there is not school and the teacher isnt expected to be on the clock. How they choose to spend that time is up to them, The teacher responded to you the next day school was in session, thats being professional and prompt.
It seems the one who needs to start acting like an adult is you. Im sorry you feel that your issue has to be addressed immediately including on days when their is no school, but again the teacher is not your employee. They are not and should not be expected to respond to you on weekends or days off. If they choose to do so that is their choice. You arent the only parent with issues.
Theres nothing that would have been done about the issue most likely over a snow day anyway.
There arent snow day assignments because all someone would have to do is say they dont have internet at home and are being discriminated against having online assignments put up. Thats the society we live in
> What I had said was during 3 day snow day period,
> the teacher went completely offline. I never said
> I sent an e-mail on a Friday or weekend - you just
> made that up. But if that's what it takes for you
> to defend them, whatever.
>
> I am expecting the teacher to behave like a
> professional employee - that they respond promptly
> to communication and don't use snow days as an
> excuse to stop working completely. With all of
> the investment in Blackboard and now online text
> books, I really don't understand why they don't
> have standing snow day assignments or assignments
> that can be posted to BB when a snow day occurs.
> I know why the children are thrilled with snow
> days, it just seems to me that the adults could
> act like, well, adults and not use a little snow
> as an excuse to stop working.
A snow period is the same as a weekend. It is a day where there is not school and the teacher isnt expected to be on the clock. How they choose to spend that time is up to them, The teacher responded to you the next day school was in session, thats being professional and prompt.
It seems the one who needs to start acting like an adult is you. Im sorry you feel that your issue has to be addressed immediately including on days when their is no school, but again the teacher is not your employee. They are not and should not be expected to respond to you on weekends or days off. If they choose to do so that is their choice. You arent the only parent with issues.
Theres nothing that would have been done about the issue most likely over a snow day anyway.
There arent snow day assignments because all someone would have to do is say they dont have internet at home and are being discriminated against having online assignments put up. Thats the society we live in
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
c'mon
()
Date: November 13, 2011 10:11PM
get off the high horse Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> c'mon Wrote:
>
> > What I had said was during 3 day snow day
> period,
> > the teacher went completely offline. I never
> said
> > I sent an e-mail on a Friday or weekend - you
> just
> > made that up. But if that's what it takes for
> you
> > to defend them, whatever.
> >
> > I am expecting the teacher to behave like a
> > professional employee - that they respond
> promptly
> > to communication and don't use snow days as an
> > excuse to stop working completely. With all of
> > the investment in Blackboard and now online
> text
> > books, I really don't understand why they don't
> > have standing snow day assignments or
> assignments
> > that can be posted to BB when a snow day occurs.
>
> > I know why the children are thrilled with snow
> > days, it just seems to me that the adults could
> > act like, well, adults and not use a little
> snow
> > as an excuse to stop working.
>
>
> A snow period is the same as a weekend. It is a
> day where there is not school and the teacher isnt
> expected to be on the clock. How they choose to
> spend that time is up to them, The teacher
> responded to you the next day school was in
> session, thats being professional and prompt.
>
> It seems the one who needs to start acting like an
> adult is you. Im sorry you feel that your issue
> has to be addressed immediately including on days
> when their is no school, but again the teacher is
> not your employee. They are not and should not be
> expected to respond to you on weekends or days
> off. If they choose to do so that is their
> choice. You arent the only parent with issues.
>
> Theres nothing that would have been done about the
> issue most likely over a snow day anyway.
>
> There arent snow day assignments because all
> someone would have to do is say they dont have
> internet at home and are being discriminated
> against having online assignments put up. Thats
> the society we live in
An excuse for everything.......
-------------------------------------------------------
> c'mon Wrote:
>
> > What I had said was during 3 day snow day
> period,
> > the teacher went completely offline. I never
> said
> > I sent an e-mail on a Friday or weekend - you
> just
> > made that up. But if that's what it takes for
> you
> > to defend them, whatever.
> >
> > I am expecting the teacher to behave like a
> > professional employee - that they respond
> promptly
> > to communication and don't use snow days as an
> > excuse to stop working completely. With all of
> > the investment in Blackboard and now online
> text
> > books, I really don't understand why they don't
> > have standing snow day assignments or
> assignments
> > that can be posted to BB when a snow day occurs.
>
> > I know why the children are thrilled with snow
> > days, it just seems to me that the adults could
> > act like, well, adults and not use a little
> snow
> > as an excuse to stop working.
>
>
> A snow period is the same as a weekend. It is a
> day where there is not school and the teacher isnt
> expected to be on the clock. How they choose to
> spend that time is up to them, The teacher
> responded to you the next day school was in
> session, thats being professional and prompt.
>
> It seems the one who needs to start acting like an
> adult is you. Im sorry you feel that your issue
> has to be addressed immediately including on days
> when their is no school, but again the teacher is
> not your employee. They are not and should not be
> expected to respond to you on weekends or days
> off. If they choose to do so that is their
> choice. You arent the only parent with issues.
>
> Theres nothing that would have been done about the
> issue most likely over a snow day anyway.
>
> There arent snow day assignments because all
> someone would have to do is say they dont have
> internet at home and are being discriminated
> against having online assignments put up. Thats
> the society we live in
An excuse for everything.......
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
get off the high horse
()
Date: November 13, 2011 10:19PM
c'mon Wrote:
>
> An excuse for everything.......
Facts arent excuses theyre facts.
And lets be serious about this whole argument. You wouldnt have responded to that email on youre off day either. I think any doubt has been removed that you are in fact that parent
>
> An excuse for everything.......
Facts arent excuses theyre facts.
And lets be serious about this whole argument. You wouldnt have responded to that email on youre off day either. I think any doubt has been removed that you are in fact that parent
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
Good Teacher!
()
Date: October 27, 2012 05:40PM
You are an ass and obviously your students aren't getting good parenting. If this is the way you feel about teachers, then please, please, take your children out of school and home school them. Teacher's are overworked, under payed, and obviously disrespected by idiots like you. I work weekends, summers, nights, and way, way, more hours than my contract shows. My colleagues do the same. In fact the work load is so tremendous that everyone has to work more hours than they're paid for. YOU should hold your mouth until you know facts, but that's probably not possible for you. Teacher Workdays barely give us the time for professional development, and definitely doesn't give us enough time to make a dent in our work load.
I love teaching,but I don't like the way children have become more disrespectful, have no self control, and parents who question everything the teacher does. If you can do it better, please take your child out of school and do it. Your child is probably one of the over indulged, mouthy, disrespectful children who most teachers would be happy to have leave!
I love teaching,but I don't like the way children have become more disrespectful, have no self control, and parents who question everything the teacher does. If you can do it better, please take your child out of school and do it. Your child is probably one of the over indulged, mouthy, disrespectful children who most teachers would be happy to have leave!
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
Disappointed Teacher
()
Date: October 27, 2012 05:46PM
Wow! Really?! You think teachers should respond to you immediately. Let me stop teaching and answer your phone call, which is probably asking me why my child isn't in the Advanced Academic Program, even though they can't sit in their seat, can't stop talking, are disrespectful, and pay absolutely no attention to what is being taught.
We have Blackboard set up, along with many educational activities for your child to do when they aren't in school. Do you know who takes advantage of this? 1 or 2 children, who are self-motivated! Your child has access to loads of technology. Why don't you read the information in their weekly folder, check their assignment book, or TALK to your child.
As a teacher, I try to answer e-mails as efficiently as possible. BUT, there are times when obnoxious, overbearing parents expect me to be available 24/7, for a pay check that hasn't changed in 3 years! You've got to be kidding me!!!!!
We have Blackboard set up, along with many educational activities for your child to do when they aren't in school. Do you know who takes advantage of this? 1 or 2 children, who are self-motivated! Your child has access to loads of technology. Why don't you read the information in their weekly folder, check their assignment book, or TALK to your child.
As a teacher, I try to answer e-mails as efficiently as possible. BUT, there are times when obnoxious, overbearing parents expect me to be available 24/7, for a pay check that hasn't changed in 3 years! You've got to be kidding me!!!!!
Re: FCPS Staff Development/Teacher Workdays are a SCAM!
Posted by:
Commenter
()
Date: October 27, 2012 05:50PM
It sounds to me like you are an unhappy disappointed person who has not been able to get a good education. Teachers have advanced degrees, something that you obviously haven't been able to get, because the junk coming out of your mouth is at about a middle school level.
I feel sorry for you, and definitely for your child, children.
Go read a book, take a class, anything to make your brain work a little bit. You definitely need some kind of brain stimulation --- electro shock therapy maybe?
I feel sorry for you, and definitely for your child, children.
Go read a book, take a class, anything to make your brain work a little bit. You definitely need some kind of brain stimulation --- electro shock therapy maybe?