Any ideas?

Don't get married. If you are, don't sign anything.

Cheap and you get a vacation too.

Joe Condo, Mark Sandground, David Masterman, Kathleen O'Brien, Jim Cottrell, Betty Thompson, Richard Colten, Robert Shoun, Glenn Lewis, Marty Gannon and a few others. Most of these people are going to charge upwards of $500 per hour.

The big question is do you really need THE BEST? Is there something about your case that requires you to incur a six figure legal bill in order to separate your property and resolve custody and support issues? Don't get me wrong: There is a reason why these guys get the big money. You are going to get some services from them that you might not get with less expensive attorneys, and in an extremely close case they might be the difference. However for more run of the mill cases there are a great many of us "second tier" attorneys who can obtain about the same result at a much lower price.

I used Brian Hirsch in Reston. Liked him a lot. Very fair and doesn't let the other person get away with anything

Smith and Wesson

That is too funny! Thank you!

No divorce is second tier to the people in it. Call Tom Fromme in fairfax.Not $500 and flawlessin my view.

If you are a guy you are toast. If you have kids, you need to find a way to tolerate the bitch until the last kid is 18 and has graduated high school.

Sharon Filipour

justsayin Wrote:
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> If you are a guy you are toast. If you have kids,
> you need to find a way to tolerate the bitch until
> the last kid is 18 and has graduated high school.

If you're a woman get the cheapest one you can find or possibly none. If you're a man don't waste your money......It just won't matter.

todd sanders?

John Bauserman

one of his opponenets started a website abut him she was so pissed.

"Mommy go BYE BYE"

Before anyone gives glen lewis too much credit, read this article




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/25/AR2010092503070.html

Heather Cooper in Fairfax, http://www.cgglawyers.com/

My adulteress ex-wife used one of these attorneys: "Joe Condo, Mark Sandground, David Masterman, Kathleen O'Brien, Jim Cottrell, Betty Thompson, Richard Colten, Robert Shoun, Glenn Lewis, Marty Gannon and a few others. Most of these people are going to charge upwards of $500 per hour."

I walked away with the house and the healthy equity, the newer car and being with the kids, most of the time.

I would consider using this firm:

http://www.virginiafamilylawcenter.com/

Gtx
I am sorry this post was started as the reality is due to pending divorce, although it is with equal appreciation that I find some real advice, as I am currently in the same situation.
Brookfield Resident, do you know the hourly rate of Brian Hirsh and everyone else out there, do you have any suggestions for top attorneys in NOVA where price is at $375 as maximum?

Good luck finding a decent lawyer for that amt of money per hour. If you do not have a lot to split up or more then two kids a cheap lawyer will do. If you want to screw it to your spouse you will need to pay more upfront.

Has anyone heard of Susan Hicks or Richard Wexell? How effective?

Susan Hicks is good, but I believe she is well above $375.

Bill N,

Thanks- My apology, meant Susan Butler with Shoun.com law firm. Also, if anyone may know that hiring a good attorney in a well-reputed firm like Shoun.com is just as good as hiring a well-known attorney. And how much cost does it add if you live in a different county for courrier costs, etc?

375 to max response Wrote:
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> Bill N,
>
> Thanks- My apology, meant Susan Butler with
> Shoun.com law firm. Also, if anyone may know that
> hiring a good attorney in a well-reputed firm like
> Shoun.com is just as good as hiring a well-known
> attorney. And how much cost does it add if you
> live in a different county for courrier costs,
> etc?

Honestly, if you are trying to micromanage this down to the level of courier costs, you likely can't afford any of the attorneys that have been identified here, and if you can, you will not be satisfied, no matter what the outcome, because of what it has cost you.

Since I've been on the marriage chopping block thrice, I can tell you that (in hind sight) it would have cost me less money (several thousands) if I had stayed married to my first slutty two-timing nagging bitch. Seriously, if you want to get even with the whore you married, stay married but have some pussy on the side.

All, thank you for your suggestions and particularly Brookfield Resident- I have retained Brian H. and initial impression is very competent

Thanks again
Alan

375 to max response Wrote:
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> Also, if anyone may know that
> hiring a good attorney in a well-reputed firm like
> Shoun.com is just as good as hiring a well-known
> attorney. And how much cost does it add if you
> live in a different county for courrier costs,
> etc?

In a word, No.

A lawyer in a good firm is going to have access to the firm's resources. At best you are still relying on the knowledge and skills of the attorney who is handling the case. Of course one of the better known higher profile attorneys in the firm could step in and take over the case, but when that happens you are going to end up paying that lawyer's high rates rather than the junior attorney's lower rates.

That said there are some very good attorneys who are associates or junior partners in firms run by "name" attorneys. Examples would include Anne Goodwin with Fite & O'Brien in McLean, Colleen Sweeney at William B. Reichhardt's firm in Fairfax or Carol Ehlenberger with Brian Hirsch in Reston. (Sorry no opinion on Ms. Butler) There are others of equal caliber in NoVa.

I said at best because there can be downsides to using second tier attorneys. Some of these firms have the same high level billable demands that you find at large firms, so the number of hours being put into your case may rachet upwards. You can run into similar games from name attorneys though. General rule is that whenever an attorney says they do something to keep your costs down, they mean it will make them more money.

Stay married till the kids are 18. Life is short but you need to save your $$ and maybe even hide some. Start putting $$ iin your kids names but you are the benefactor and they cannot touch it without your approval.

if you have $$$ Wrote:
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> Stay married till the kids are 18. Life is short
> but you need to save your $$ and maybe even hide
> some. Start putting $$ iin your kids names but you
> are the benefactor and they cannot touch it
> without your approval.


Boy, you must have the best attorney in the Commonwealth of Virginia if you can get away with all of that without your wife being able to get her hands on it!

I married a trophy wife and could hide what I wanted. As long as I paid her credit card bill she never looked at shit. She would even sign tax documents and NEVER even read them. She had no clue. In long run it was not worth it to be married. I made the mistake. She made some good money off me but THANK GOD we never had kids. Kids will drain your bank account faster.

Johnny Cockrin and Associatz baybay!

Piggy Wrote:
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> Don't get married. If you are, don't sign
> anything.

Including the Marriage Certificate!

I am a divorce lawyer but I do things differently. I will set-up your spouse in a way that it will never look like entrapment. I will make her life a living hell and wear her down to the point that she is broke and desperate just to reach a settlement. I will publicly embarass her at work and amongst her friends that she will want to crawl under a rock and die. These bitches are like third world dictators, they are stubborn cunts that you have to use extreme measures to drill it into their heads that the only way out of this mess is to raise the white flag and give in to the husband.

Ok, could use some advise/suggestions on what to expect- My STBX has now secured a new attorney within the last month after I countersued and now requesting 4-way meeting. I am not sure what to expect. I know my attorney will represent me, but anyone who may weigh in if they have experienced this would be appreciated.

Susan Hicks is really good. She's in the same ballpark as the $500 / hour guys (that's actually her rate). She's Washingtonian's Top 50, etc.

I had someone from her firm. She has other lawyers with lower billing rates too. The key with divorce lawyers is that they will bill you tons to fight over just about anything. I mean - they bill by the hour. What I liked about them was that they didn't let my wife get away with BS, but they also didn't bill me up the butt for stuff I didn't really care about.

Shoun is also pretty good too. They have a number of lawyers with a variety of rates.

If you have kids and money you should wait it out till they are 18. The amount of money you pay in lawyers fees and moving cost plus support will bankrupt you. Believe me.

Basically I think all men/women are pretty much alike in the long wrong. You get married in another few years and it is the same crap but with a different person. I wish everyone could sign up for a ten year marriage with an option to renew.

Justin Daniel, great new young atty. in FFX.

Charged us around $400/hour... Very happy with the outcome. All were beside themself with how easy the process went.

He is working at the Whitestone firm in FFX.

Wow, this keeps getting worse and needs some suggestions fast- She called the police this afternoon and falsely accused me of pointing a knife at her right in front of the kids- I am planning on getting a protective order tomorrow morning and wanted to find out any other legal thing at my disposal I may have- I know I am fighting an uphill battle with the courts slanted toward women (she has turned the kids against me as well), but I am determined to fight for my kids.

Man ur best advise is not to take advise here or you are screwed!! I had a lawyer in Fairfax city do mine, Obregon LLC was good and quick and can provide good direction..Hit em up!

The Whitestone firm has served me well.
You've got a tough battle to fight dude. You said it all, the court system absolutely is in favor of the "mom" these days. Unless she's addicted to drugs, commuting crimes daily, or doing something else wrong... she's given the benefit of the doubt.

Justin Daniel, ESQ helped my boy out with his custody case and they worked out a great weekend deal. He gets to see his son every weekend and every other holiday. Here's his info...

703-591-0200
justin.daniel@wbymlaw.com

if you have no kids... convince her of a divorce... go find some cheap online bullshit forms, print them out, take them to some BS lawyer to sign and both walk away with some dignity.

if you have kids... Your pretty much Done!
Unless... you can prove them unfit... which is actually pretty simple...
After you separate (within a 1 year period) If you can prove them cheating... Hire a certified Private Investigator, Then get Your Kids!!! They pay you child support, AND Alimony (depending on income (obviously)

Mention this to Whichever Lawyer You Do hire...

My 25,000 out of pocket Lawyer recommended this several times, but i was too cheap to pay A P.I. upwards $600.00 and hour... and i knew she was Messing around... my child support now..... $1250.00 a month... I only make $68,000/yr

hope it helps..


otherwise...
find a new 'friend' to spend some time with...
and go home when your damn well ready.. make them divorce you.

Divorce lawyer Wrote:
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> I am a divorce lawyer but I do things differently.
> I will set-up your spouse in a way that it will
> never look like entrapment. I will make her life a
> living hell and wear her down to the point that
> she is broke and desperate just to reach a
> settlement. I will publicly embarass her at work
> and amongst her friends that she will want to
> crawl under a rock and die. These bitches are like
> third world dictators, they are stubborn cunts
> that you have to use extreme measures to drill it
> into their heads that the only way out of this
> mess is to raise the white flag and give in to the
> husband.


Please contact me ASAP. I need a consult.

I used Richard Colten for my divorce. $500/hour but worth every penny. Always makes the list of Washington's best divorce attorneys. His associates did the boilerplate stuff at a much lower rate so it all equalled out to using a less expensive attorney without large firm resources. You want the best possible attorney sitting beside you in the courtroom!

Screw each other just like did on your honeymoon, but in reverse.

Make sure you become the biggest asshole you can be and make sure you never see your kids again.

Get married to a younger women and have a new baby and wait till she leaves your ass in the nursing home.

Divorce. So much fun.

VA courts are very Pro-Women even if they are caught cheating and you have evidence. It's better to spend alot for a good lawyer rather than losing it all to some bad ex-wife due to having poor representation.

I used these folks and was satisfied

John Baserman www.piklaw.com

good advice Wrote:
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> Smith and Wesson


+1

The law firm of Smith & Wesson, "Ending marriages since 1852"

I used Nupur Bal at Glenn Lewis' law firm and was very happy with the results. She was SUPER aggressive which was what I needed - my case went from 2009 till 2011. 2 years of hell, but her strategy helped me through it. She was under $400.

Would love to hear a serious response from a divorce (or any other type for that matter) attorney. Please justify an hourly rate of anything north of of $350/hour. Hell, how about $75/hour.

90% of cases have got to be routine, even the messy ones.

Have NOT been there, done that, so I don't know.

By far, the best divorce lawyer is Marc H. Botzin. He does not have a website or advertise on late night television, but this guy is a pitt bull. He is hands down, the best divorce attorney in the Northern VA area. I think his office is in Fairfax City now, he used to be in Old Towne Alexandria. Phone is 703-519-3900. He has represented me twice and both times, excellent results. This guy is to the point, no-nonsense, and always wins.

Well, the best divorce lawyer is DEFINITELY not my soon to be Ex's attorney. I just found out that he's milked her for about $62K so far!!!! I'm at about half of that so far with my attorney thanks to the soon to be Ex! I am using an attorney from Bean, Kinney & Korman in Arlington. They are a very good firm.

Take Itchy's advise, that's gonna be your cheapest and easiest way!

Second John Baserman at Piklaw

My experience with a Phillip Schwartz, a 500 dollar/hour lawyer on the Shoun Bach Walinsky & Curran team.

As of today, delay mentioned below is almost 17 weeks (more than 1/3 year.

Failed to timely send urgently needed divorce decree required for foreign court child custody petition. 13 week delay and was actively attentive only after I complained to VA Bar Association. emails from him show he was busy with other lucrative and apparently more important cases (including professional related travel abroad) during the 13 weeks as I had already paid in full and even paid in advance of completion. It appears he may have lost my documents also. Ignores most of my current email including request for "tracking number" of documents reportedly mailed to me. This delay sets me back for additional living expenses abroad and in addition sets me back for the same duration in lost income in my profession as a doctor.

Prior to retaining him he wrote in an email that the VA court will grant an adultery divorce if adultery is shown to the court. Other lawyers I consulted told me it was a discretionary decision up to the judge. I figured the other lawyers were downplaying what Mr. Schwartz stated as they did not have his purported vast experience and expertise. It turns out Mr. Schwartz emailed me this very same "discretion of the judge" disclaimer albeit cleverly worded, almost on the eve of the final hearing, well after he got my business. In retrospect, other experienced divorce lawyers were honest up front, and also hundreds of dollars less per hour. He lied to me to get my business.

I received multiple recurrent confidential email communications between him and other clients. Typically they were of cases of international nature and the headers were "spoofed" so they would appear as not being sent or cc'd to me. Perhaps he was trying to show me how important he is by the international nature of cases, perhaps careless, perhaps confused, although I tend to think they were intentionally sent in light of the "spoofing"

I can only assume he also shared my/our confidential communications in the same manner with other clients or potential clients.

http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/22033-va-philip-schw...rtz-664847/reviews.html#155806
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Don't know bout Tay.

Best advice is to not use a lawyer to pursue major legal action in any type of divorce. All Northern Virginia judges have heard it all before -- he said she said. You throw away a TON of money and the lawyers get rich and you still do not get the outcome that you wanted (no where near -- no matter how compelling your case).

Figure it out with your spouse. Divide up all the property yourselves. Negotiate with a far cheaper 3rd party mediator. Sure -- use a lawyer to find out what your rights are, and to make sure final agreements are legal and tight. But you are crazy to throw money away on a big lawsuit.

Keira Schwartz Guthrie- She gets it right the first time saving in the long run.
Spunky and knows her stuff !

Not impressed with Susan Hicks. My attorney kicked butt. I was awarded full custody, child support and alimony.

Michael Ward is the best divorce lawyer in No. Va. in my opinion.He has been practicing for over 30 years, orginally was a partner with Gannon,Cottrell.He practices by himself in Fairfax.He i s brilliant, so focused,so organized and he wins.Best of all,he's not greedy and won't break your bank.

I have used Mike Ward. He is awesome.You are right, he is brilliant.He is incredible in court. He is so prepared that being up against him is a problem for any other lawyer.

You are right. I went to Mike Ward and he won everything for me. I was so happy and the guy is not greedy. Can't beat it!!!!!!!!!!

What a coincidence that three people, using their real names, all commented positively on a divorce atty within 7 minutes of eachother!

Wow!

Careful lawyer Wrote:
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>
> Figure it out with your spouse. Divide up all the
> property yourselves. Negotiate with a far cheaper
> 3rd party mediator.

+1

just say no unless you want a complete a-hole

Signed,

a lawyer, but not a divorce lawyer

Who cares how he treats you-your not a client your a lawyer and a pretty insecure one at that!

Www.piklaw.com

David Root, Tysons Corner... The best lawyer you can find in VA to represent the male side.

Its David Roop (not Root) and he's very good.

Here's a question: As a man, would I be better off with a male attorney or a female attorney? Does it matter? What are the plusses & minuses of each one?

Also, a friend who just went through a divorce (in Arlington) told me that I need to have an attorney from Fairfax county since that is where I live. Is that true? I didn't think it mattered.

ToeInTheWater Wrote:
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> Here's a question: As a man, would I be better
> off with a male attorney or a female attorney?
> Does it matter? What are the plusses & minuses of
> each one?
>
> Also, a friend who just went through a divorce (in
> Arlington) told me that I need to have an attorney
> from Fairfax county since that is where I live.
> Is that true? I didn't think it mattered.

All other things being equal, get a female attorney.

You are right, attorneys are licensed by the state, it does not matter what county they are from. Maybe your friend meant that your attorney should be known/respected by the Fairfax courts and other lawyers here??? You do NOT want to go to court, but if you did, you would need an attorney who is liked by the judges in this county. And even that is no guarantee, judges are frequently brought in from outside the area. Just stay out of court, mediate a settlement.

My dad has been practicing in Richmond for 35 years but not family law. He recommended Joe COndo up here (I live in Arlington( but he was too high for me (650$/hr). Joe set me up with his most senior lawyer, Nuper Bal. We mediated in the end, but she set up the case so my ex folded like a... I hope to NEVER use her again (haha - no more divorces!!) but I have recommended her to two friends already.

Careful Lawyer above gave the best advice. DO NOT create or follow the path towards expensive divorce litigation requiring lawyers. At the end of the day their fees will milk you dry for no benefit. Negotiate with your spouse. Get a lawyer to review all legal docs as well as get an explanation of Virginia divorce law and the options available to spouses, but avoid protracted divorce legal proceedings.

Someone on her mentioned Keira Schwartz. I agree. A neighbor also used her, which is how I found her. I met with her awhile back. Case just settled and I couldn't feel better about it. Not sure what your rate ceiling is, but she was $365/hr I believe.

Re: Best Divorce Lawyer in Nova?
Posted by: Burned and Learned ()
Date: December 29, 2011 10:22PM


Careful Lawyer above gave the best advice. DO NOT create or follow the path towards expensive divorce litigation requiring lawyers. At the end of the day their fees will milk you dry for no benefit. Negotiate with your spouse. Get a lawyer to review all legal docs as well as get an explanation of Virginia divorce law and the options available to spouses, but avoid protracted divorce legal proceedings.


+1!!!!

Went through mediation and saved a ton of money. Under $8k for everything!

Carl Horton in Oakton
he rescued me from an abusive husband

How about the worst ? ILONA GRENEDIER . she scammed me for 10's of thousand's of dollars, was very rude, unproffessional, shared personal information to the opposing counsel. Charges $700.00hr, drives a New Bentley Gt. The problem is that I got no representation from her and got screwed hard in the end. Many hate her and feel that she should be dis-bared.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS FIRM

She's just okay . Overpriced. But
Don't expect her to be unlike any of them.
She just does it in a skirt.
Also if she is doing something less than honorable
She gets an associate to do it. SOS

Get an attorney who will readily ADVISE you and has at least SOME professional pride. Too many listen to their clients when their clients want to file some moronic motion that will not be immediately dismissed, but doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being successful. Those sorts of motions are a shameless yet greedy attorney's wet dream - time-intensive, convoluted, and insuring him/her numerous billable hours.

The ethical attorney (well, ethical is a relative term in the shark community) will not hesitate advising his/her client not to pursue a moronic motion even though that moronic motion will bring him/her plenty of billable hours.

I've found that William (Bill) Schmidt and his associate, Brook Rolka, are just that type of attorney who will advise their clients in such a manner.

http://pview.findlaw.com/view/1065426_1

Unfortunately, there are no trustworthy people given the gravity of challenges life gives to us.

My wife fell in love with a yoga instructor while I struggled to survive cancer. She refused to work and now enjoys 5 grand a month and emptied all bank accounts prior to announcing her intention to divorce. I had no idea that she was unhappy. I see now she is the rule, not the exception.

Virginia divorce laws are punitive for men. Don't ever marry in Virginia.

Angry White Man Wrote:
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> Unfortunately, there are no trustworthy people
> given the gravity of challenges life gives to us.
>
> My wife fell in love with a yoga instructor while
> I struggled to survive cancer. She refused to
> work and now enjoys 5 grand a month and emptied
> all bank accounts prior to announcing her
> intention to divorce. I had no idea that she was
> unhappy. I see now she is the rule, not the
> exception.
>
> Virginia divorce laws are punitive for men. Don't
> ever marry in Virginia.

Agreed. God forbid if you have kids. Courts & moms usually yank them away from good fathers, then the newly-single moms run around saying "my kids' dad is completely out of the picture and wants nothing to do with his kids." No wonder American families are so fucked up.



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David Roop of the Roop Law firm in Vienna/Tysons Corner is excellent. He is honest, settlement oriented but an amazing litigator as well. He's not cheap, but he is worth it - he also has excellent associate attorneys who bill at a lesser rate. He oversaw my case and had an associate work much on my case to save me money - highly recommended!

Paul Scott

Rod Koozmin Wrote:
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> Paul Scott


Paul Scott talked to me when I called his add, the bigest in the yellow pages. That says something in itself. If you are inteligent you will notice an equLLY inteligent man if you talk to him

I agree with what ISSY said... "just okay," "overpriced," and "she just does it in a skirt." Why did you stay and continue to pay her $700/hr if you were unsatisfied with her performance? You should have just fired her, saved a lot of money, and gone elsewhere for representation, especially if she was as you described. Lawyers are a dime a dozen in NOVA. You can't really blame her for you sticking around. People are accountable for their own actions. You probably paid the lease on her Bentley that year.


It's worth mentioning here for those looking for a firm that her female Asian associate (maybe half Asian) is the absolute worst. She has a very limited vocabulary, especially in front of a judge. It appears that Ilona will assign her to her more "untrustworthy" clients. They are usually the ones that are not honest or forthcoming with her before discovery (i.e., compulsive liars, cheaters, no morals, hiding assets, abandoning children, etc.) She does not like to be embarrassed in front of a judge, but then again, who does? Ilona usually won't do the dirty work of defending such a person herself in court, but she will assign an associate and take their money. Why? Because she can.



If it is an option, mediation is still the smartest choice. It will save both parties a ton of dough.


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> How about the worst ? ILONA GRENEDIER . she
> scammed me for 10's of thousand's of dollars, was
> very rude, unproffessional, shared personal
> information to the opposing counsel. Charges
> $700.00hr, drives a New Bentley Gt. The problem is
> that I got no representation from her and got
> screwed hard in the end. Many hate her and feel
> that she should be dis-bared.
>
> STAY AWAY FROM THIS FIRM

Gman Wrote:
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> How about the worst ? ILONA GRENEDIER . she
> scammed me for 10's of thousand's of dollars, was
> very rude, unproffessional, shared personal
> information to the opposing counsel. Charges
> $700.00hr, drives a New Bentley Gt. The problem is
> that I got no representation from her and got
> screwed hard in the end. Many hate her and feel
> that she should be dis-bared.
>
> STAY AWAY FROM THIS FIRM
I agree with what ISSY said... "just okay," "overpriced," and "she just does it in a skirt." Why did you stay and continue to pay her $700/hr if you were unsatisfied with her performance? You should have just fired her, saved a lot of money, and gone elsewhere for representation, especially if she was as you described. Lawyers are a dime a dozen in NOVA. You can't really blame her for you sticking around. People are accountable for their own actions. You probably paid the lease on her Bentley that year.



It's worth mentioning here for those looking for a firm that her female Asian associate (maybe half Asian) is the absolute worst. She has a very limited vocabulary, especially in front of a judge. It appears that Ilona will assign her to her more "untrustworthy" clients. They are usually the ones that are not honest or forthcoming with her before discovery (i.e., compulsive liars, cheaters, no morals, hiding assets, abandoning children, etc.) She does not like to be embarrassed in front of a judge, but then again, who does? Ilona usually won't do the dirty work of defending such a person herself in court, but she will assign an associate and take their money. Why? Because she can.



If it is an option, mediation is still the smartest choice. It will save both parties a ton of dough.

I agree with what ISSY said... "just okay," "overpriced," and "she just does it in a skirt." Why did you stay and continue to pay her $700/hr if you were unsatisfied with her performance? You should have just fired her, saved a lot of money, and gone elsewhere for representation, especially if she was as you described. Lawyers are a dime a dozen in NOVA. You can't really blame her for you sticking around. People are accountable for their own actions. You probably paid the lease on her Bentley that year.



It's worth mentioning here for those looking for a firm that her female Asian associate (maybe half Asian) is the absolute worst. She has a very limited vocabulary, especially in front of a judge. It appears that Ilona will assign her to her more "untrustworthy" clients. They are usually the ones that are not honest or forthcoming with her before discovery (i.e., compulsive liars, cheaters, no morals, hiding assets, abandoning children, etc.) She does not like to be embarrassed in front of a judge, but then again, who does? Ilona usually won't do the dirty work of defending such a person herself in court, but she will assign an associate and take their money. Why? Because she can.



If it is an option, mediation is still the smartest choice. It will save both parties a ton of dough.

In general, the OP fucked up in a couple of ways:
1) He got married, and now things have gone to hell.
2) He never had the foresight to think about pre-nup, or how to un-wind the deal.
3) Coming to FFXU for any advice is, well, a gamble. For every nugget of good advice: expect 100 insane comments, mine included! That being said, if you are asking for a good lawyer, here, well, your case is already a lost cause. Bend over, pull open the ole bombbay doors, and let her give it to you any way she wants. She has won, and you have suffered a loss. Now just giving up your money, pride, primary residence is what you have to look forward to.

Hello Divorce Lawyer,

I need to get in touch with you ASAP. You can contact me or I can reach out to you. Just tell me how you want to do this? I don't have your contact information and I don't know how to send you mine privately.

Thanks

Paul Scott is the best- Rod Koozmin

John Bauserman 703 267 2600

The one my ex wife had.

Gman
just saw your post re Ilona Grenadier "scammed you for 10s of thousands" ... need advice re the EXACT same person !!!!!
How can I get in touch with you ASAP ... before I lose all my retirement to her AND my X!!! ... pls
MyLawyerFnMeWorseThanX

Gman
just saw your post re Ilona Grenadier "scammed you for 10s of thousands" ... need advice re the EXACT same person !!!!!
How can I get in touch with you ASAP ... before I lose all my retirement to her AND my X!!! ... pls
MyLawyerFnMeWorseThanX

Gman,
saw your post re Ilona Grenadier "scammed for 10s of thousands" ... need advice re the EXACT same !!!!!
How can I get in touch with you ASAP, discuss, etc. ... before I lose 20 years of my retirement to her AND my cheating greedy X!!! ... pls

My wife made 700000 in 2010 not sure what she made in 2011 because she filed the taxes without my signature. I am sure she made mor wont show me the tax papers. wife filed propert settlement agreement. we have two kids. she wants to pay me 1500 in child support and 2500 in alimony for three years plus half of our assests. she is a partner in her company. she doesnt want me to go after company. I make about 30,000 a year. I watch kids 75% of time. She travels frequently sometime for long periods. most recently to europe. should I take offer or get more i feel i am being ripped off. she wants to share custody. I want sole custudy with her having reasonable visitation. attorneys mediation or just settle.

My wife made 700000 in 2010 not sure what she made in 2011 because she filed the taxes without my signature. I am sure she made mor wont show me the tax papers. wife filed propert settlement agreement. we have two kids. she wants to pay me 1500 in child support and 2500 in alimony for three years plus half of our assests. she is a partner in her company. she doesnt want me to go after company. I make about 30,000 a year. I watch kids 75% of time. She travels frequently sometime for long periods. most recently to europe. should I take offer or get more i feel i am being ripped off. she wants to share custody. I want sole custudy with her having reasonable visitation. attorneys mediation or just settle

karl k Wrote:
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> My wife made 700000 in 2010 not sure what she made
> in 2011 because she filed the taxes without my
> signature. I am sure she made mor wont show me
> the tax papers. wife filed propert settlement
> agreement. we have two kids. she wants to pay me
> 1500 in child support and 2500 in alimony for
> three years plus half of our assests. she is a
> partner in her company. she doesnt want me to go
> after company. I make about 30,000 a year. I
> watch kids 75% of time. She travels frequently
> sometime for long periods. most recently to
> europe. should I take offer or get more i feel i
> am being ripped off. she wants to share custody.
> I want sole custudy with her having reasonable
> visitation. attorneys mediation or just settle

Nobody here cares about your life. We do, however, care about your crappy writing skills. Go back and finish the first grade.

I had one of the " cheaper " lawyers listed. And my ex had one from Choun/Bach. However it's spelled. Let's say he is in $75k at least in dept and I am paid off. I have the kids, the house and he pays okay child support, plus other things. My only thing is choun and bach are very unethical and this particular lawyer we went against truly should have their license revoked. Lies, lies, and this isn't cliche that I'm saying this because circuit court judge asked the attorney why they had not represented what truly happened all the while there were documents proving the truth.

karl k Wrote:
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> should I take offer or get more i feel i
> am being ripped off. she wants to share custody.
> I want sole custudy with her having reasonable
> visitation. attorneys mediation or just settle

If she is pulling down $700k a year I'm guessing the household assets are quite substantial. No offense but if you are only pulling down $30k/yr then you have hit the jackpot with the offer you have. Take it, let her have partial custody so you have some free time on a schedule to spend the windfall, and move on with life.

I don't know if you have done the math, but what she is paying you in alimony equals what you make in a year before taxes. Shared custody would mean her child support payments will stretch further. You didn't say how old the kids were, but make sure she will be paying child support until the last kid hits 18 or graduates high school (whichever is last). I can't tell by your note if you meant both child support and alimony were meant to only last three years.



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Please contact me for a consult.
Thank you.

Hi,

Do you have your contact information? I am looking for a good divorce lawer in Northern VA.

STAY AWAY FROM ILONA GRENADIER THEIF AND LIAR , YOU WILL BE BURNED BY HER

Elona Grenadier LOVES to 'FUCK UP' men, financially. Elona Grenadier, in Alexandria, is a suopreme BITCH! I've had friends of mine who had their ex's have Elona in court with them and she comes up with some unethical bullshit so she can win and then, she bills the shit out of the women she represents. Elona Grenadier should be disbarred!

Robert B. Nealon - The Best Divorce Lawyer in Northern Virginia! - 703-684-5755

Ripped my ex-wife a new a-hole. Ask for M.G. She is the very best and very professional.

Please provide me some specifics as I am considering using her for my ugly divorce.

Can you please provide some details regarding your complaint with Ilona. I realize her rates are high, but I hear she is good and she can ahve associate prepare case and she oversees case and appears when needed.

Thanks
Joel

As a lawyer practicing in NOVA, (I would put my name here, but know better....) would recommend Dan Dannenbaum or Katherine Fogarty. Would've said Betty Thompson, legendary, but just recently passed away, still practicing into her 80's.
Roop as mentioned before is a good choice as well. There really are many good lawyers in that field, talk to a couple and find one you are comfortaqble with, that is probably more important than cost. You know what they say, divorce is expensive because it's worth it!

HappeeOne Wrote:
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> Carl Horton in Oakton
> he rescued me from an abusive husband


Don't use Carl Horton, that dude is a Douche! Totally unprofessional. Not good reviews on him. I should have done more research before I used him!

I used Keira Schwartz last year after a neighbor used her too. She did a great job. Not cheap but did bill fairly. Made the process less stressful for me, put my needs first, and made me feel important as a client.

Please call me 703 522 0597 so we can talk about my fees. If the money is good I will help. The more money the better job I do. God Bless

You have issues, likely small penis and large Scotch for too long, because what you're describing is not a "she" , but a " he" and a " dick" rather than a "bitch", you must also be the kind of lawyer who wants to make a quick buck playing on mainly stigma rather than fact. Go f()$&@ yourself!

Being a stubborn cunt, or what my husband likes to call me, I want a lawyer like you. It goes both ways and there are 2 sides. I make 2x the income and he came to the marriage with baggage of step-child and psycho wife. Oh, that makes me stupid...nevermind. Do you represent thos situations and, if not, where do I find the one who's going to protect me and my daughter from this asshole and have my best interests? I'm not the spoiled bitch housewife that is boo-hooing about it. I built my wealth and finances and I'll be damned if he's getting shit!

Nicholas Balland Wrote:
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> Please call me 703 522 0597 so we can talk about
> my fees. If the money is good I will help. The
> more money the better job I do. God Bless

I don't think you can ethically represent to the public "the more money, the better job" you do. Would the bar approve of that?

Well said, my ex-bitch fought me with a cheap ass attorney, while I was spending $500 an hour on a worthless overrated attorney. The results were devastating. I lost my kids which I shared 50/50 custody with for 2 years while we fought over them. Now I get them every other weekend. It destroyed my children and their confidence. Nobody wanted to hear from my children and what they wanted.
Then I lost every dollar I had left and it left me with a business that had no money to operate and borrowing money from everyone I could to try to stay afloat. The ex-bitch received hundreds of thousands, my kids, then married her co-worker that she had been cheating on me with after she received her asset payment of $340,000. This was money earned after the separation but the courts didn't care. The ex-bitch also makes $115,000 a year at her job and had a huge 401K.
I have no retirement, no kids and no working capital to show for having an expensive attorney.I also got stuck paying the taxes on the asset money the bitch received. I had already paid for my kids college using the 529-plan so she is set for life and I'm stuck working for life to just scrape by.
The moral of the story is fuck these attorneys that take your money and encourage all of this bullshit that cause you and your children a lifetime of stress.
The judge that handled my custody case was Judge Jan Brody, who in my opinion is the worst judge on the face of the earth. When my attorney learned who the judge would be, she commented that we were screwed because we got the "mother judge"

Judge Jan Brody couldn't see through my ex-bitches bullshit and was supposed to give our lawyers equal time but she gave the ex-bitches attorney almost twice the time we got. Judge Jan Brody is garbage in my opinion and ruins men and children's lives in order to make herself feel better. In my opinion she hates all men or she wouldn't have her bad reputation as the "mother judge".
My kids are in and out of counseling thanks to her and her reckless use of power.
Our legal system sucks and so do these bitches that can't be responsible and fair.

In short don't waste your money on an attorney because the results are always the same.

http://www.bernhardandgardner.com/

they were good decent price got in and out and got what i wanted and im a dude ^.^

Nick Wrote:
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> Well said, my ex-bitch fought me with a cheap ass
> attorney, while I was spending $500 an hour on a
> worthless overrated attorney. The results were
> devastating. I lost my kids which I shared 50/50
> custody with for 2 years while we fought over
> them. Now I get them every other weekend. It
> destroyed my children and their confidence. Nobody
> wanted to hear from my children and what they
> wanted.
> Then I lost every dollar I had left and it left me
> with a business that had no money to operate and
> borrowing money from everyone I could to try to
> stay afloat. The ex-bitch received hundreds of
> thousands, my kids, then married her co-worker
> that she had been cheating on me with after she
> received her asset payment of $340,000. This was
> money earned after the separation but the courts
> didn't care. The ex-bitch also makes $115,000 a
> year at her job and had a huge 401K.
> I have no retirement, no kids and no working
> capital to show for having an expensive attorney.I
> also got stuck paying the taxes on the asset money
> the bitch received. I had already paid for my kids
> college using the 529-plan so she is set for life
> and I'm stuck working for life to just scrape by.
> The moral of the story is fuck these attorneys
> that take your money and encourage all of this
> bullshit that cause you and your children a
> lifetime of stress.
> The judge that handled my custody case was Judge
> Jan Brody, who in my opinion is the worst judge on
> the face of the earth. When my attorney learned
> who the judge would be, she commented that we were
> screwed because we got the "mother judge"
>
> Judge Jan Brody couldn't see through my ex-bitches
> bullshit and was supposed to give our lawyers
> equal time but she gave the ex-bitches attorney
> almost twice the time we got. Judge Jan Brody is
> garbage in my opinion and ruins men and children's
> lives in order to make herself feel better. In my
> opinion she hates all men or she wouldn't have her
> bad reputation as the "mother judge".
> My kids are in and out of counseling thanks to her
> and her reckless use of power.
> Our legal system sucks and so do these bitches
> that can't be responsible and fair.
>
> In short don't waste your money on an attorney
> because the results are always the same.

Sorry dude. I had Judge Schell and he was awesome, wise, fair, and just a beautiful, beautiful human being. He should get the Nobel Peace Prize as far as I'm concerned. So glad I didn't get Judge Brodie or I'd be fck'd. Get some new p@ssy. That always helps make you feel better. Sorry, but kids are always fck'd either way in a divorce. Mine are now doped up on Risperdal thanks to my selfish cunt ex-wife.

I am go through a divorce with an extremely controlling man & I am scared. He will not cooperate. Wont do mediation. Had to get my own attorney and now wants to drag me into the retired judges with Ilona Grenedier. Does anyone know this will go? I am in a difficult situation with this.

Jim Korman or Christian Lapham at Bean, Kinney and Korman in Arlington. Great attorneys.

Paul Jordan Wrote:
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> Jim Korman or Christian Lapham at Bean, Kinney and
> Korman in Arlington. Great attorneys.


I also used Christian Lapham. He is great! Totally made my ex wife's Attorney look like the douche he is!

On the recommendation of several friends and others, I used Susan Hicks, She was ineffective, hugely over-priced, and clearly was more concerned about runnung up an incredible bill than trying to get what I wanted out of the divorce. Told me I should not go to mediation, which I should have done months ago. I am still not finished yet--DO NOT HIRE HER!!!!

What did you want out of the divorce - or what were you trying to do that she didn't help you with?

Fukke Johannson (pronounced fook-eh).The best ever.

Hi

I like your style and I'm recently divorce and would like to know how would you handle my ex since she constantly want to plan stuff doing my visition time? Can you give me more information regarding your background. Hopefully, I will hear from you soon, thanks

RJ

Keira Schwartz absolutely rocks. She is awesome, knows the law, and makes pitbulls look like Weiner dogs. Kicked a highpowered firms but without batting an eye.

Keira Schwartz absolutely rocks. She is awesome, knows the law, and makes pitbulls look like Weiner dogs. Kicked a highpowered firms but without batting an eye.

Keira Schwartz absolutely rocks. She is awesome, knows the law, and makes pitbulls look like Weiner dogs. Kicked a highpowered firms but without batting an eye.

Keira Schwartz absolutely rocks. She is awesome, knows the law, and makes pitbulls look like Weiner dogs. Kicked a highpowered firms but without batting an eye.

Keira Schwartz absolutely rocks. She is awesome, knows the law, and makes pitbulls look like Weiner dogs. Kicked a highpowered firms but without batting an eye.

You folks are too lazy to work on marriage, think it is easier to divorce. Seems like a lot of unhappy men on this thread. Some of you are stupid enough to get hitched more than once. Maybe it is "you" not your wife who are the losers. so what if your wife puts on a few pounds, you probably are not in "your high school football studley shape" anymore either. I know I am not, I look in the mirror.
My wife and I treat each other with respect. I know a good thing when I have it, and I am not going to screw it up.
Some of my buddies regret walking away from their OK marriages. The grass is not greener on the other side. Think again!!
Try to work things out.

Gwena Kay Tibbits - 30 years in the courts, mainly Alexandria, she is tough and will deliver. There is no one better than Kay

you are an idiot if you think you can get good legal advice here.

I have used Pikrallidas Law Offices - very happy.

I wound up with Kevin Wright but understand Demetry Pikrallidas will get back to divorces now that his is close to being done.

He is aggressive and mean as a snake - but extremely fair and flexible with fees.

hey, you don't need a divorce lawyer. If Arnold and Maria can work thru it after what he did with me, you can work thru it too!!!
I am available to work in your home!!!

Gwena Keycis the best

yes, yes.. Demetry is mean as a snake. He not afraid of no one..Judges love him! they do anything for him. Pikrallidas is good and if you are a good looking guy is a bonus. He is one of the most powerful gay attorney in fairfax.. and is not afraid of no one! Demetry, my doors are always open for you..! you deserve to be happy!

Dear Snake:
I hate gay guys that want to be unhappy because they do not want the family to find out they are gay... People know.. stop pretending!!! With me you don't only have to get a piece of aXX.. i will take care of you! and you don't have to give me anything.. I know you are agressive.. I don't care....:) I wil not be here forever!

I love you

Your Snake

Bil N Wrote:
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> J
You are
> going to get some services from them that you
> might not get with less expensive attorneys, and
> in an extremely close case they might be the
> difference. However for more run of the mill
> cases there are a great many of us "second tier"
> attorneys who can obtain about the same result at
> a much lower price.

Okay, what services do you get for the higher price? A more thorough investigation? More research? Backdoor connections to judges? And, conversely, does a lower-priced lawyer bill for more hours? Does he drag the case out longer (either to boost the bill or because doesn't know how to end it)? If a famous super-lawyer just writes a letter to the other side saying "Settle with us or we will crush you," and a prompt settlement occurs, does he charge less for the job than a cheaper guy who spends months going back to court? Just hypothetically, what is a realistic total price for a basic divorce for the average middle-class couple? And is there a mechanism for the couple themselves to sit down and work out a deal fair to both without paying zillions to lawyers?

Jim Cottrell or Joe Condo. These are the top two family law attorneys in NOVA.

BEWARE: While Ilona Grenadier May have been one of the best divorce attorneys in the DC area many years ago — her reputation only precedes her. The sad TRUTH is, she is nothing more than a money grabbing SNAKE!

The best thing she does now is ... convince you that she cares, plays on your emotions, promises you the moon ... but not without immediately taking ALL your money in advance and leaves you to twist in the wind as she milks you dry.
She did this to me and then turned my case over to a completely incompetent minion attorney by the initials CA.

If I had $1,000 for every error I had to point out/correct in any number of pleadings, motions, e-mails to opposing counsel, etc. they produced... she'd owe me money!!!! And when I had finally had enough and decided to change attorneys, she even had the Fg hairs to try and charge me for MY work product to date!!!!

Furthermore, I am convinced that her 'scorched earth' MO is actually designed to take your case to trial (instead of settling) where she is guaranteed the big payday ... Not you!

If you think your Ex is gonna F you over — you haven't hired Ilona.

~jus sayin'

What's a lawyer cost per hour? What's an average divorce cost? How long does this drag out? Is the one that files better off than the other?

Ilona looks pretty good for a 75 year old - or however old she is.

I'd hit it.

Anyone hear how Catherine (Kate) Reese is? I too just found out about wife's longterm -ongoing-affair.

Kate has a good rep, but she is on the top end expense wise. If you have absolute proof of adultery - need to be rock solid - then go with a cheap lawyer. This is the only case in VA when the man does not get fucked. It will be a fault divorce and she won't get shit!

Wish my ex would have cheated on me - the frigid, lazy, nonworking bitch got half of everything plus alimony for life - what happened to women being equal to men?

Kate has a good rep, but she is on the top end expense wise. If you have absolute proof of adultery - need to be rock solid - then go with a cheap lawyer. This is the only case in VA when the man does not get fucked. It will be a fault divorce and she won't get shit!

Wish my ex would have cheated on me - the frigid, lazy, nonworking bitch got half of everything plus alimony for life - what happened to women being equal to men?

Absolute Worst Divorce Attorneys: Robin Adler, Carl Horton, Dana Carlson

Unprofessional, negligent, misrepresent, unethical, manipulative, dishonest, do not explain legal terms and get abusive when you ask for an explanation.

you could go online and get the form and both agree and fill it out, mail it to the court. wait the req. period of time. done. that simple.

(ie, through family or by mail if you all don't show respect to one another / argue)

it'd save you a boatload of money. lawyers are famous for making divorces take longer and sucking out all the money from both sides either of you would gain in a "fair settlement", by telling you lies about the "potential outcome"

i think VA is a "50/50" state, assuming your a VA resident to begin with.

if your not stop using our courts for free!! pay up.

so if you can agree without involving "forced settlement" do it. really forced settlements, enforced by the awsoem power of public police, should be left if one party simply refuses to pay debts that are more than, say, $500, that one can argue is owed by law.

svennestle Wrote:
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> you could go online and get the form and both
> agree and fill it out, mail it to the court. wait
> the req. period of time. done. that simple.

Then 5 years later find out that you are still married. That is some of the worst legal advice offered on this forum.

There are a number of attorneys who offer low cost divorces in Virginia, and some of them may have on line set ups. It is also possible to do it yourself. You don't need a lawyer if you are willing to take the time to learn how to do it right. The process you describe Sven isn't followed in Virginia.

If you have enough assets or debts to consider fighting over, you probably need to talk with an attorney. You may be able to work out the settlement terms on your own, but you should know what the rules are first.

Oakton VA Resident Wrote:
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> Absolute Worst Divorce Attorneys: Robin Adler,
> Carl Horton, Dana Carlson
>
> Unprofessional, negligent, misrepresent,
> unethical, manipulative, dishonest, do not explain
> legal terms and get abusive when you ask for an
> explanation.

Carl Horton for sure is horrible! Totally unethical and dishonest. My attorney make him look like a moron in court and it was nice to have my ex pay my attorney fees for BS charges Carl convinced her to file against me. Havent heard from her since!

The truth about divorce in Virginia
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130906/OPINION/130909479/1065/the-truth-about-divorce-in-virginia&template=fairfaxTimes

When Ken Cuccinelli sponsored legislation in 2008 to repeal Virginia’s no-fault divorce law for couples with children, he said, “This law has everything to do with the breakdown of the family. The state says marriage is so unimportant that if you just separate for a few months, you can basically nullify the marriage.”

Even though five years have passed since the bill was introduced, it is worth considering what it reveals about Mr. Cuccinelli’s approach to public policy.

The predicate for his legislation — the idea that no-fault divorce in Virginia allows people to casually and quickly end their marriages — is a myth. The head of a social conservative group, the Family Foundation, wrote approvingly of then-Sen. Cuccinelli’s legislation, saying, “It is time that Virginians agree that the 30-year experiment with unilateral, no-fault divorce has failed.”

In almost 40 years in practice I have yet to encounter a client for whom ending a marriage has been anything other than a wrenching decision. Furthermore, Virginia already has one of the lowest rates of divorce in the nation.

It’s also highly misleading to suggest that Virginia’s no-fault grounds allow for a quick divorce; in what I call “pure” no-fault states, a party can fill out a form citing “irreconcilable differences,” and after a very brief waiting period, the divorce is finalized. In Virginia, couples with minor children — for whom Cuccinelli says he wants to make it harder to get divorced — have to be separated for a year before the divorce can be filed. And if the couple hasn’t agreed on custody, property, or support issues, it can take several months, or even a year or more, for the divorce to finally be concluded. Most divorcing couples in Virginia use the year’s separation period to resolve all the legal issues relating to the breakup, so that by the time the year has passed, there is nothing to contest.

The other illusory assumption underlying this bill is that children would benefit if there were no no-fault grounds. Trapping individuals in desperately unhappy marriages for a longer period of time would result in even more emotional damage to their children and increases the risk that a bad marriage becomes dangerous.

It doesn’t take a psychological study (although there are dozens) to tell us that divorce is hard on children. The more adversarial a divorce, and the longer it drags on, the likelier it is that the stress on the children will increase exponentially.

Finally, one cannot ignore what this proposal says about Cuccinelli’s attitude toward Virginia women. Let’s face it: even with huge cultural changes over the past several decades, the financially-disadvantaged or abused spouse is still almost always the wife, and thus the negative effects of his legislation would fall disproportionately on women. Regrettably, this bill falls right in line with Cuccinelli’s unwillingness to support increasing child support, the Violence Against Women Act and women’s health access. A recent Washington Post report on his ties to “Fathers’ Rights” groups may also help explain Cuccinelli’s legislative history.

Cuccinelli’s proposal to repeal no-fault divorce is a good example of what happens when public policy is based on ideology, ill-informed pseudo-social science, wishful thinking, or all of the above. Not only is its ostensible purpose of keeping married people together a fraud, but it would increase the emotional and financial cost on individuals seeking a divorce and, worst of all, place their children at risk of unnecessary additional trauma from the breakup of their parents’ marriages. What’s scary is that this legislation is also a perfect example of Cuccinelli’s simplistic, ideology-driven and shortsighted philosophy of governing.

Joseph A. Condo is a family law attorney and the former president of the Virginia State Bar.

Anyone heard anything about a divorce lawyer named Roy Baldwin?

get a form online.

be respectful and express respect to your x (so you don't argue, is why). agree on a sum. 1/2 of what, if there is anything to have 1/2 of.

file it. wait 6 mo.

do not cheat during it: you can get backlashed for what you do in court during those 6 mo.

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if you get a lawyer by the time they are through lying to you and billing you there will be nothign left to get 1/2 of, deery. that's what i see people complain of allot.

on the other hand. if your disabled or there is something special like a owned company involved you might not want advice. but even with advice settle out of court if you can it's far cheaper.

go to court if the settlement needs enforcing

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are you a GUY? if so argue to get a male judge. i guarantee you fx courthouse clerk office et al is run by misandrous women and will assign a female judge if they can get away with it

fx courthouse is not known for being fair and biased.

is your x a gov worker and you are not? your screwed. she'll win. give up while you can.

I would go with the DC hammer Mike Slocum...or Greenberg and Bederman

Sean O'Connell, actually in Arlington but he's very good. He has a crack team working for him but his rates are very low. He helped me out of a few tight spots on my divorce.

Mike Hunthertz

Dick Inman

Anne Ullman

Dee Verse

Ivana Endiss

Farrah D. Well

Ali Monih

Les B. Ahn

I used Debra Powers from the Susan Hicks Group in Fairfax. She was excellent and she helped me sort through some important financial issues for the property settlement. At a court ordered mediation session before things were finalized, the court's representative complimented Ms. Powers on her knowledge of complex inheritance laws and he looked right into my ex's face and said "she just cost you a bundle." Fees to me were clearly explained up front and well within what was discussed. (At the time, she was significantly less per billable hour than Susan Hicks, but this was five years ago.) She was supportive, not combative, and as long as progress was being made, she was pleasant towards my ex and his lawyer. Once they started stonewalling, she pulled out the stops. I highly recommend.

Bil N Wrote:
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> Joe Condo, Mark Sandground, David Masterman,
> Kathleen O'Brien, Jim Cottrell, Betty Thompson,
> Richard Colten, Robert Shoun, Glenn Lewis, Marty
> Gannon and a few others. Most of these people are
> going to charge upwards of $500 per hour.
>
> The big question is do you really need THE BEST?
> Is there something about your case that requires
> you to incur a six figure legal bill in order to
> separate your property and resolve custody and
> support issues? Don't get me wrong: There is a
> reason why these guys get the big money. You are
> going to get some services from them that you
> might not get with less expensive attorneys, and
> in an extremely close case they might be the
> difference. However for more run of the mill
> cases there are a great many of us "second tier"
> attorneys who can obtain about the same result at
> a much lower price.



Betty Thompson = dead
Glen Lewis = disbarred or suspended (search of google if you don't believe me)

i wouldnt hire any of those others. I don't know Kathleen O'Brien, but all the others are old. In my experience, older attorneys are overpriced (400+ per hour) and are lazy. They will bluster and go on and on in court, they will tell you everything you want to hear, but in many cases, they are looking to maximize their billing when most of what you will get could be obtained by a younger attorney who is hungry.

I advocate going for someone with about 5-7 years of experience. Such a person is probably still hungry and not completely burned out. Talk to the potential attorney - make sure it is someone you feel comfortable with - you want someone who will tell you the law not be quick to do whatever you say.

Be careful though - divorce is the easiest area of law to practice (one code section) and is usually practiced by the worst attorneys. There are some good ones, but you should definitely shop around.

Good luck!

Johnny Cochran

Yeah, she is an old cunt. Her technique is to attempt to bully her opposing counsel by claiming unethical conduct. She is awful. Terrible attorney.

Phil Suckoluski.

outoftheblue Wrote:
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> Anyone hear how Catherine (Kate) Reese is? I too
> just found out about wife's longterm
> -ongoing-affair.


Did not have a good experience with Kate Reese. Way overbilled and I owed tens of thousands of dollars and got the same result had I settled earlier with what the other side was offering. Run far away from her.

Hi Been There,

I was wondering if you could contact me since I had a similar situation with the same attorney(Catherine "Kate" Reese) a few years back. At least I now know it wasn't a personal thing against me! I was wondering if you could email me so we could discuss some things.

I didn't want to put my real email public here so I made this account: lookingfornovadivorceattorney@gmail.com

Thanks

Ilona Ely Freedman Grenadier Heckman is guilty of being involved in , Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, Aiding and abetting obstruction of Justice, Fraud on the Court, Involvement of Forgery, Theft of money from the Sonia Grenadier Trust account through her law office for great personal gain over $10 Million in Real Estate, Theft of Herman Grenadier, malpractice, Bribery, Abuse of her Oath of Office, Conspiracy, Collusion, Miscarriage of Justice, preventing Due Process, conflict of interest – related to the practice of law, violating code of ethics, has liability to her victims, has violated Plaintiffs Religious, Political, United state Constitutional, Virginia Constitutional and Civil Rights, Breach of Fiduciary Duties, RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT, Title 18 US code 241 Conspiracy against rights, and 242 Deprivation of rights under color of law, Retaliatory & Retribution actions, Treason, Title VI Civil Rights Act of 1964 Title VI, 42 U.S.C. 2000d et seq., was enacted as part of the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964, 18 USC§ 912. With her Intention to 18 USC § 1341 -Frauds and swindles, Defraud, Breach of Contract, Arbitrary and Capricious behavior, Committed Fraud on the Court, § 18.2-498.3. Misrepresentations prohibited, § 18.2-172 - Forging, uttering, etc., other writings et al.

That the Old Boy Network, judicial system in Virginia is trying to protect her and themseleves - and ignore the evidence.

The state of Virginia is rated 47th and 49th in

corruption in two different independent studies. The links for these studies:
VirginiaRated 47th and 49th in Corruption - Daily Beast rated Virginia second most Corrupt State http://www.loudountimes.com/index.php/news/article/region_survey_finds_virginia_second_most_corrupt_state987/ -
State Integrety Gave them an F - 47th most corrupt States - http://www.stateintegrity.org/virginia

The following aided and abetted in the Obstruction of Justice

Supreme Court of Virginia, Circuit Court Judges - Haddock (who "LOVES" her), Kemler, Dawkins, Clark, Fortkort, McGrath, Brown, Potter, Kent General Dist Judge McCue, Federal Judge Gerald Bruce Lee, Commonwealth Attorney Randy Sengel, Commonwealth Clerk of Court Ed Semonian, Attorneys - Ben DiMuro, John Tran, Heather Collyer, Michael Weiser, the City of Alexandria Police Department, the Virginia State Bar, the Virginia JIRC, the Courts of Justice, Senator Patsy Ticer, Martha Kent and other State & Government Officials, Family David Grenadier, Andrea Grenadier Rachel/Robin Grenadier, Erika Freedman Grenadier Lewis have
EMPOWERED ILONA in her illegal and criminal actions that are willful acts that are malicious, violent, oppressive, fraudulent, wanton and grossly reckless !

The actions of Ilona can be traced and backed by documents: Legal documents, letters from attorneys on attorney letter head stationary and documents filed in the courts

I have attached my response to her interest in Intervening in my divorce - which is now on appeal to even get a Judge that is not corrupt. She has a lot of Power!
Attachments:

You can read more about Ilona Grenadier and her law firm at http://valaw2010.blogspot.com/

Her and other divorce attorney's moto's are to first look how much money can be made - 2nd not settltment till their is no money left for the lawyers -

You are mistaken in recommending Colleen Sweeney. She is your spouse's best friend. Either you have no experience with her or you are a paid shill.

JW Grenadier Wrote:
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> Ilona Ely Freedman Grenadier Heckman is guilty of
> being involved in , Perjury, Obstruction of
> Justice, Aiding and abetting obstruction of
> Justice, Fraud on the Court, Involvement of
> Forgery, Theft of money from the Sonia Grenadier
> Trust account through her law office for great
> personal gain over $10 Million in Real Estate,
> Theft of Herman Grenadier, malpractice, Bribery,
> Abuse of her Oath of Office, Conspiracy,
> Collusion, Miscarriage of Justice, preventing Due
> Process, conflict of interest – related to the
> practice of law, violating code of ethics, has
> liability to her victims, has violated Plaintiffs
> Religious, Political, United state Constitutional,
> Virginia Constitutional and Civil Rights, Breach
> of Fiduciary Duties, RULES OF PROFESSIONAL
> CONDUCT, Title 18 US code 241 Conspiracy against
> rights, and 242 Deprivation of rights under color
> of law, Retaliatory & Retribution actions,
> Treason, Title VI Civil Rights Act of 1964
> Title VI, 42 U.S.C. 2000d et seq., was enacted as
> part of the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964, 18
> USC§ 912. With her Intention to 18 USC § 1341
> -Frauds and swindles, Defraud, Breach of
> Contract, Arbitrary and Capricious behavior,
> Committed Fraud on the Court, § 18.2-498.3.
> Misrepresentations prohibited, § 18.2-172 -
> Forging, uttering, etc., other writings et al.
>
>
> That the Old Boy Network, judicial system in
> Virginia is trying to protect her and themseleves
> - and ignore the evidence.
>
> The state of Virginia is rated 47th and 49th in
>
> corruption in two different independent studies.
> The links for these studies:
> VirginiaRated 47th and 49th in Corruption - Daily
> Beast rated Virginia second most Corrupt State
> http://www.loudountimes.com/index.php/news/article
> /region_survey_finds_virginia_second_most_corrupt_
> state987/ -
> State Integrety Gave them an F - 47th most corrupt
> States - http://www.stateintegrity.org/virginia
>
> The following aided and abetted in the Obstruction
> of Justice
>
> Supreme Court of Virginia, Circuit Court Judges
> - Haddock (who "LOVES" her), Kemler, Dawkins,
> Clark, Fortkort, McGrath, Brown, Potter, Kent
> General Dist Judge McCue, Federal Judge Gerald
> Bruce Lee, Commonwealth Attorney Randy Sengel,
> Commonwealth Clerk of Court Ed Semonian, Attorneys
> - Ben DiMuro, John Tran, Heather Collyer, Michael
> Weiser, the City of Alexandria Police Department,
> the Virginia State Bar, the Virginia JIRC, the
> Courts of Justice, Senator Patsy Ticer, Martha
> Kent and other State & Government Officials,
> Family David Grenadier, Andrea Grenadier
> Rachel/Robin Grenadier, Erika Freedman Grenadier
> Lewis have
> EMPOWERED ILONA in her illegal and criminal
> actions that are willful acts that are malicious,
> violent, oppressive, fraudulent, wanton and
> grossly reckless !
>
> The actions of Ilona can be traced and backed by
> documents: Legal documents, letters from attorneys
> on attorney letter head stationary and documents
> filed in the courts
>
> I have attached my response to her interest in
> Intervening in my divorce - which is now on appeal
> to even get a Judge that is not corrupt. She has
> a lot of Power!


There is a good deal out there on your complaint that was written by you, or which quotes things you have written. Perhaps you would care to share something about it written by a neutral party, such as one of the judges who have heard your case.

Anyone know what the outcome is in property settlement when there is adultery? Still 50-50 then?

As a client who is concerned about rate and quality representation this is the right choice. Chris Lapham, Bean Kinney, Sris at Sris Law Group are the lawyers I have used and they are both in the $350 per hour range and definitely know what they are doing. I think it is crazy to spend $500 per hour for a divorce when what you really need is a lawyer who is going to fight for you. Both these guys go to bat for you without any hesitation. Initially I spoke to one of Sris law group customer service person at around 8 o clock in the evening. He fixed an in person appointment for me to meet with attorney Sris. After meeting with Mr. Sris I was really comfortable with his knowledge and experience. I am glad that I hired him. Now I am in peace. I also used Chris Lapham once, he did a good job As well. Great value for money.

Sick of this process Wrote:
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> Anyone know what the outcome is in property
> settlement when there is adultery? Still 50-50
> then?


Yes, regardless, property division is still 50-50.

Re Katherine M. Fogarty AKA Kate Fogarty,you don't want to know her,she's a real bitch,and quite the skank too.

Dorothy M. Isaacs

from the law firm

Surovell Isaacs Petersen & Levy PLC
4010 University Drive
Second Floor
Fairfax, VA 22030
Phone: 703-648-8279

http://www.smillaw.com/Attorneys/Dorothy-M-Isaacs.shtml

She is expensive but you get what you pay for with lawyers.

I can personally save you a lot of time and tell you to contact Jerry Curran.

That's - Gerald Curran - in Fairfax right accross from the Fudruckers on 123. One of the best divorce attorneys around.

Lawyers are a dime a dozen. Too bad Shoun/Bach has gotten so bad (by reputation)-did you hear their radio ads....? What a train wreck!

Shoun Bach is definitely still one of the best out there. All around.

Gerald Curran.

Damn good attorney.

Best divorce firm in the area is Ain & Bank. The office is in DC but they have people licensed in Virginia. These people are high end divorce attorneys that handle the biggest cases. They are not lawyers with a "junkyard dog" reputation. They will be much scarier to your spouse's lawyer than a junkyard dog.

Molly Garrett at Shoun Bach is simply the best.

What makes you say she is so good?

Why do you say they are so good?

I have used Mike Ward in Fairfax. He is very competent and fair. I liked him a lot
and have recommended him.

There is no best divorce lawyer in Virginia. Divorce is your failure to choose wisely. If you did choose wisely, there is good reason not to divorce.

The exception is the tyranny of your government AKA Obamacare whereby you are left no options.

Smith and Wesson worked wonders for me.

Kevin Wright is a decent lawyer and good guy

Ilona Ely Freedman Grenadier Heckman - you can read about her at valaw2010.blogspot.com She hates Catholics / Christions - this is an e-mail she was involved in to me - She is a lier - lies in court documents -and the Judges support it - Especailly two Jewish ones - Supreme Court Justice Cynthia Kinser and Cheif Judge Lisa Kemler of the City of Alexandria - who are in collusion with her to promote Favortisma and Cronyism in the State of Virginia Courts -

LeahLax1234@ao.com

Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 10:39 AM
To: jwg@xxx.com
you know what YOU DIDN"T HELP JEWS YOU ARE THE KIND THAT WOULD TURN THEM IN BECAUSE ONE PERSON DID SOMETHING TO YOU THAT WAS JEWISH. YOU MADE YOUR BED AND YOU LIED IN IT ! THIS FAMILY REJECTED YOU FOR NOT BEING JEWISH. YOU STUPID GOY. YOU WERE REJECTED .. GET THAT INTO YOUR THICK SKULL. NOW YOU ARE MAKING UP STORIES AND SPREADING LIES! BLAMING ALL JEWS LIKE HITLER FOR NOT LIVING ON EASY STREET. WELL GET OFF YOUR ASS. GOOD YOU LOST ALL YOUR MONEY MAKES YOU HUMBLE. AND GOOD YOU GOT A WHIPPING FROM A JEWISH LAWYER WHO WAS SMARTER THEN YOURS. GOOD FOR HER. I WOULD HIRE HER IN A HEART BEAT. SHE WENT AFTER A JEW HATING NAZI AND SHE WON. AND I HOPE SHE GAVE HER GRANDSON A GOOD TALKING TO FOR MARRYING A GOY IN THE FIRST PLACE AND HE SHOULD HAVE KEPT HIS ZIPPER UP AND NOT HAVE HAD SEX WITH A MENTALLY SICK PIECE OF CRAP LIKE YOU.
YOU ARE THE NAZI WORSE A MUSLIN LOVING NAZI! YOU HATE YOURSELF THAT IS WHY YOU HATE JEWS YOU ARE BLOCKED! - The Words of Presidential candidate Leah Lax et al -
I do not think your organization would want to be a party to this -

Her campaign which has been raising funding and traveling all over has never filed a disclosure with the FEC - I have attached my complaint with them as well as a Restraining and Injuction Request in Federal Court -

When I got divorced I interviewed and researched a lot of Fairfax lawyers:

Here are some of the best ones, best I could tell: David Roop (not inexpensive but very good), David Masterman, Susan Hicks, John Byrnes, Susan Butler and Keenan Goolsby at Shoun firm. And Gerry Curran and Grant Moher in Fairfax.

Only advice is don't hire anyone who isn't a full-time divorce lawyer - my first lawyer said he handled "lots of divorces" but he did a lot of other things, and I had to change lawyers.
And I think all the posters here are right about Ilona Grenade-launcher -

A very good attorney is David Ginsberg of Cooper, Ginsberg, Gray. He has a bachelor degree in finance which is extremely helpful in a divorce. Also, makes wise and fair decisions.

My ex hired Robin E. Adler as her attorney.

Adler was a bitch to deal with, she constantly filed motions against me thus jacking up legal bills. While she couldn't even file her responses in time and when the hearing was scheduled in front of a judge that she didn't like or perhaps the one who didn't like her, she would pretend that she fell and hurt herself and get the hearing rescheduled.

Not a attorney you want to see in family court.

Whatever you do don't hire Christian Lapham in Arlington - he never returns calls

Cranky2 Wrote:
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> Whatever you do don't hire Christian Lapham in
> Arlington - he never returns calls


You must be a real pain in the ass client because Christian is about the most professional attorney you will ever find. He's been nothing short of excellent for me and really stuck it to my ex's attorney. I've never had any issues with him never getting back to me.

sounds like you have a "good plan"...do you hate ALL women or just the rotten ones? I'd love to have you do that to my Bi-Polar, Narcissistic, Agoraphobic Sociopath husband...

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What are your suggestions for a tort case against the ex-mistress of one's husband? She's such an over-achiever that not only did she knowingly have a 3 year affair with a married man, she took him to Spain to meet her family and then chose to have a baby with the man. Of course, the pregnancy was an "accident" and she recently sued for child support. Now she is trying to give him a hard time about visitation with his own child. If you have not guessed, I am the spouse whose life has been turned upside down in the past 6 months. The man already had three children with me. I understand there is no "alienation of affection" option in Virginia any longer, but there MUST be something on the level of tort law that can be used against her since she has ruined my life, my kids lives and continues to be unreasonable and unapologetic. Please don't tell me to "get over it" because I have, but my kids won't. If a drunk driver turned your life upside down, a jury might award a multi-million dollar award, so how is this any different? It was not an accident, it was planned, and it was with malice.

Your best chance might be to try to sue her in North Carolina. They still recognize alienation of affection.

The problem with your DWI analogy is if a drunk driver killed your husband, chances are he didn't have your husband's permission. Your husband is the one who owed you a duty of fidelity. He is the one who violated that duty. Your complaint is against him and the place to pursue it is in the divorce action.

Why do you have to do that? People are sincerely looking for a divorce attorney and to pretend you are three different people is just being a jerk.

This isn't true. The firm does represent women!!

Looking for a really tough lawyer

I am making an inquiry about possible representation to enforce terms of my dissolution agreement with my former husband. Please advise if you handle such case, I will also need a referral if this case is not within your line of practice.




Hania

Good Day,

I am making an inquiry about possible representation to enforce terms of my dissolution agreement with my former husband. i require a lawyer to handle such case or a referral if this case is not within your line of practice.

Get back to me through my private eMail address: haniamrs31@gmail.com

Yours Truly,
Hania

stay away from Ilona grenadier.
Rude, arrogant, unprofessional, will take all your money and you get poor results
She charges $700hr , drives a convertible Bentley. Stay away

Agreed! She is taking me to court and doing things that my ex isn't even aware of. I don't know how to come to a conclusion with the two of them because she doesn't compromise. Just drags it out and costs both parties a ton of money. Very unprofessional

none of those mother fuckers

all probalby get money from the county and bow to it's agenda

DOWNLOAD THE FORM. TREAT OTHER SPOUSE RESPECTFULLY, FILL OUT. MAIL IN

DONE: FOR $15 all said and done

it's well known fx co lawyers will fleece both sides of suits, making "fine promises of success", until both owe so many fees there is not only nothign to split but a debt on top

go ahead looser, do it the looser way, have a "dispute"

Okay, I'm now qualified to have an opinion on a number of family law attorneys and will provide it if desired. In particular, I too can provide useful data with the Hicks law group , especially Susan Hicks and her apparent consistent strategy Which may not work for you depending on what side you're on. She's certainly not a girls girl,completely overrated, and clearly overpriced.
There are others to whom I have more knowledge and experience than I would like to and they are Mark Sandground,Richard Byrd, Glen Lewis, Dan Dannenbaum,John Angus,Sammy Knight,and David Duff. Lewis is gone and Byrd may be soon if not already. Mark Sandground should be gone and is no barracuda anymore, not for some time. Watch out for a David Duff no matter who you are but you better have a lot of money. If you don't it's likely you won't get the time of day. But you won't figure that out until after you've paid a modest 10k retainer. What comes next ....

Forget BRIAN HIRSCH... his main concern is MONEY... he settled with opposing lawyer to let my child be relocated outside of the USA WITHOUT consulting me beforehand and WITHOUT even bothering to argue this critical issue in court. Long story. Caveat emptor.

Looking for a good divorce lawyer in the FFX area. Please don't refer someone that charges me for stupid shit like emailing me their address and that actually has the balls to fight out what their client wants instead of giving me the schpeal about what they think the judge would do.

Already spend a boat load on a useless POS lawyer and looking to get quality service for work thats actually done.

Thank you

Lionel Hutz.

I can only offer one piece of advice and it's what a lawyer told me once:

"You can't get brain surgery for a dollar and a quarter". Simple, you get what you pay for.

If you have no kids and your divorce settlement wouldn't be too complicated, Kales and Kales have flat fee divorces to where you never even have to go to court. My divorce was $700 plus $86 court costs/filing. I think it's $599 if there are no kids or property.

My ex and I are on good terms so it was an easy process. Totally worth it to avoid court.

The other side of the divorce case wanted Kate to be the mediator. We accepted, and Kate moved the case from a complete impasse to a complete settlement quickly. The last part took the involvement of counsel as well, but that part was done quickly and efficiently, with a definitive result. I'd do it again.

I was very satisfied with the level of involvement, knowledge, communication and aggressiveness.

I was very satisfied with Catherine Reese's level of involvement, knowledge, communication and aggressiveness. You pay for what you get. If you want the best, be willing to pay for it.

I have just found out that my spouse is divorcing me. After leaving us in October 2014 and to follow, SO MUCH manipulation, false hope, other spying tactics… I've discovered I was a fool with false hope and they have strategically been setting me up this entire time. The attorney is Jay Meyerson and I just discovered that he is quite the pitbull, well-connected, and a previous president of the Bar Association. Is also very well-connected with the democratic party. Does anyone have a suggestion for an attorney that is equally as aggressive and connected and can go head to head?

Ilona Grenadier Heckman Divorce Lawyer - learn more about her and her HATE for Catholics and Christians at Valaw2010.blogspot.com or Scribd.com/VirginiaLaw

She would not know the "TRUTH" if it bit her in the ass

Her view on being a Divorce Lawyer is "Look at how much money their is and only try and reach a settlement after you have ruin the family, taken all the money" BEWARE
Attachments:

contact me at psavictim@gmail.com Ilona lies in court, in court documents - go into it with your eyes wide open - check out valaw2010.blogspot.com Scribd.com/virginialaw

Which lawyer did YOU use?

AVOID MIKE DAUGHERTY!

I had him and what a disaster, the positive reviews on Yelp, etc I found out to be fake. What a lazy attorney that is soft as butter and only cares about getting his money. He didn't do anything for me and I had to switch attorneys.

Stay away from Thomas Hennessy from the Virginia employment and family law office. He is a liar and a thief and a mental freak.

Who did you use? My husband has Carl Horton

If you are a man and there are kids involved

Cordell and Cordell is your Bet.

If you need money from the courts call Irving Schwartz.

Otherwise, Ann Howe of Duey, Cheetum and Howe.

Mr kavorkian did a good job on my divorce. It was painless and over fast

There are no good divorce attorneys.

I hired 2 in Fairfax and all they did was deplete assets. One was a "good lawyer" on the thread.There was zero benefit from hiring them. I'm bankrupt now.

They also make huge mistakes. Miscalculation of assets. Not listening. It's amazing. Shit dragged out and tens of thousands of dollars wasted. Divorce lawyers are just like a payday loan shop. Shitty service, exorbitant prices.

I'd recommend not listening to your friends who fucked their ex and find a mediator. It might cost you substantially less money and agitation.

Life is too short. If you hire a pit bull lawyer make sure you read about the negative consequences that can come from it. Suicide, homicide, kids with mental illness are sadly common in a litigated divorce. Also the pit bulls can make huge mistakes and cost you tons.

Good luck. Choose mediation.

HELLO ALL,

I AM LOOKING FOR A BEST ATTORNEY FOR SPOUSAL ALOMONEY, PLEASE HELP ME.

THANKS,

Who were the attorneys?

I agree with the people who say there are no good family law lawyers. They lack a moral compass and look only to line their own pockets. Stay away from Steven Stone, Brian Hirsch and John Whitbeck. I believe they have no integrity and are earning a place in purgatory (if not worse), with the things they do, if not worse. How they can sleep at night is beyond me.

I married my wife in an Eastern European country. Does anyone know if I can get the divorce there to my advantage? We aren't/weren't living there - it was a destination wedding.

Colleen Haddow. She tries to settle cases out of court, but understands that going to Court is sometimes the best option. Very responsive as well.

Betty Moore Sandler or Catharine M. Reese for a child custody and contempt in Fairfax circuit court?????

To the dads in this group: what’s a reasonable fee range for achieving a settlement agreement in Fairfax assuming few draft rounds between attorneys. I am at 18K Out of pocket. Assume one minor child support (not an issue) and alimony amount for seven years.

Any ballparks from real casss appreciated!

Alpha Zulu Bravo

You are leaving out too many variables. How much property is involved and what is it. How much debt is there. Have the parties agreed to what is marital property and what is not. Are there any hard to value items. Are you fighting about who gets which pieces of property or just about the amount of the payment to equalize the division. Is there an agreement that the spousal support will last seven years or is that just your estimate or desire. Is the amount of support also agreed to, and what about modification of the spousal support. Is child support not an issue because you are OK with guidelines or it is not an issue because it has already been agreed to. Then there is the biggest issue of all. Are both sides reasonable, rational and informed and willing to set aside the emotional issues that are probably responsible for them getting a divorce in the first place.

I used Nick Solan. He's young and super busy, but he's $300/hr. He didn't take bullshit from my ex's lawyer, and everything was split equitably. He kept us out of court and made things happen fast. You just have to email him constantly or else you'll fall off his radar. Small price to pay for a divorce under $10k.

And I will add that there was custody of and support for 2 children involved with our divorce.

Early morning lawyer: you sound like a lawyer. and it ain't a compliment. an answering question with a question and no actual facts isn't an answer. I asked for ballparks. But true to your training, you answered with 'it depends'. Maybe that's why you are 'early am'...try night court...

My ex left me for someone else and left me without health insurance for months. Our great health care system didn't allow me to get a new plan because we weren't officially divorced. I had to wait weeks to get treated for cancer because that monster wouldn't keep me on her plan or a few months.

Any Recommendations For a lawyer with Experience in filing a Lawsuit against another Attorney & a Judge for fraud at the Fairfax Court??

Dude, you lost. It's over.

Alpha Zulu Bravo Wrote:
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> Early morning lawyer: you sound like a lawyer. and
> it ain't a compliment.

I know you don't mean it as a compliment, but I take it as one. It means I am not willing to pander to your unrealistic requirements, but instead insist on answering the question correctly, and in an informed manner.