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Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site designed to improve communication among residents of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything Northern Virginia residents would find interesting.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Honest People
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Date: December 22, 2010 09:05PM
I did go and check out the free and reduced lunch plans are my kids school today and everything that Broke and How it works said is all true. And it is true that they get free Cell Phones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need to take back our county and our money. Someone there that is a good speaker and knows politics and is honest PLEASE run for office. We need you
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Who do we contact about this?
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Date: December 22, 2010 09:21PM
The county or the state? Let's take Virginia back now!
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Honest People
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Date: December 22, 2010 09:57PM
Lets start with the county and if they are good we will get them in charge of the state.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
My school has no students with free lunch
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Date: December 23, 2010 08:20AM
I guess all the parents are honest. It is too bad Liz Bradsher has it in for us.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
who will feed the kids?
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Date: December 23, 2010 09:13PM
School is out for Christmas break. Who is going to feed their kids?
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Our taxes
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Date: December 23, 2010 09:20PM
They should just sell some weed on the street. At least they will have a job over break. Weed hurts no one!
PS Braddock rd an the 7-11 are sweet areas.
PS Braddock rd an the 7-11 are sweet areas.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
who will feed the kids
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Date: December 23, 2010 11:19PM
Forget the weed. they just need their mama to cook a meal for them.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Carrie
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Date: December 26, 2010 10:04PM
Hope the parents are feeding their kids. Or the kids feeding their parents. Thats right there is McDonalds.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Kim
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Date: December 28, 2010 09:32PM
We just moved from Prince William county and Fairfax has a much better program than PWC does. They seem to care more also.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
ELLE IS RIGHT!
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Date: December 28, 2010 10:42PM
Elle Diabla Wrote:
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> Signal Hill school and PWC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Signal Hill has a trailer park village behind
> it.
> > It is also near Manassas Park. I have friends
> who
> > moved out of PWC since the schools are not as
> good
> > as Fairfax. Just look at the % rate of kids who
> > finish high school. It is low.
> >
> >
> > Hey, but the lunches are wonderful.
>
> Lastly, here are the boundaries for Signal
> Hill...No inner city of Manassas getting bused in.
> Also, I'd like to know who graduates high school
> from en elementary school? (Since, you have chosen
> to attack the area on your assumptions).
I must agree with Elle. Stereotyping all of the Manassas Area as "ghetto" is truly ignorant. Sure Manassas does have its "ghetto" areas. But I will assure you that the Signal Hill School boundary area is not one of them. I would strongly contend that this area has a higher median income than 90% of the school boundary districts within Fairfax County. Don't believe me? Drive the roads from the above boundary map. What you will discover is a vast number of new neighborhoods with million and multimillion dollar homes.
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> Signal Hill school and PWC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Signal Hill has a trailer park village behind
> it.
> > It is also near Manassas Park. I have friends
> who
> > moved out of PWC since the schools are not as
> good
> > as Fairfax. Just look at the % rate of kids who
> > finish high school. It is low.
> >
> >
> > Hey, but the lunches are wonderful.
>
> Lastly, here are the boundaries for Signal
> Hill...No inner city of Manassas getting bused in.
> Also, I'd like to know who graduates high school
> from en elementary school? (Since, you have chosen
> to attack the area on your assumptions).
I must agree with Elle. Stereotyping all of the Manassas Area as "ghetto" is truly ignorant. Sure Manassas does have its "ghetto" areas. But I will assure you that the Signal Hill School boundary area is not one of them. I would strongly contend that this area has a higher median income than 90% of the school boundary districts within Fairfax County. Don't believe me? Drive the roads from the above boundary map. What you will discover is a vast number of new neighborhoods with million and multimillion dollar homes.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Can you say foreclosure?
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Date: December 29, 2010 09:20AM
Manassas sucks! Home prices have fallen faster there and the school system is crappy. They also have higher crime and longer commutes.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
joking?
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Date: December 29, 2010 10:49AM
ELLE IS RIGHT! Wrote:
> I must agree with Elle. Stereotyping all of the
> Manassas Area as "ghetto" is truly ignorant. Sure
> Manassas does have its "ghetto" areas. But I will
> assure you that the Signal Hill School boundary
> area is not one of them. I would strongly contend
> that this area has a higher median income than 90%
> of the school boundary districts within Fairfax
> County. Don't believe me? Drive the roads from
> the above boundary map. What you will discover is
> a vast number of new neighborhoods with million
> and multimillion dollar homes.
What moron would build/buy a $1M house in Manassas? No vacant lots available in SE?
> I must agree with Elle. Stereotyping all of the
> Manassas Area as "ghetto" is truly ignorant. Sure
> Manassas does have its "ghetto" areas. But I will
> assure you that the Signal Hill School boundary
> area is not one of them. I would strongly contend
> that this area has a higher median income than 90%
> of the school boundary districts within Fairfax
> County. Don't believe me? Drive the roads from
> the above boundary map. What you will discover is
> a vast number of new neighborhoods with million
> and multimillion dollar homes.
What moron would build/buy a $1M house in Manassas? No vacant lots available in SE?
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
gt3
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Date: December 29, 2010 12:46PM
Students on free lunch also get free breakfast, free musical instruments, school supplies, free field trips if there is any cost involved. It use to burn me when they would get their free lunch and then pull out money to by juice or water from the vending machines. Some parents play it like the old race card.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Let's do away with free lunch
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Date: December 29, 2010 12:49PM
If you have kids you should pay for them. Or use birth control. I hate stupid people! They are bringing down the USA.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Multimillion $$ homes in PWC?
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Date: December 29, 2010 12:51PM
Show me and I will show you what stupid looks like. Even one million is too much!
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
SORRY TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE
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Date: December 29, 2010 02:19PM
joking? Wrote:
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> What moron would build/buy a $1M house in
> Manassas? No vacant lots available in SE?
Apparently there is an abundance of morons living on the east side of Manassas. Sorry, no vacant available lots in SE with 5 acres and waterfront views as there is this section of PWC. Again, say what you want but this school boundary district is more affluent than 90% of Fairfax County's districts. It draws from no town house, apartments, or condos. Can't say that about many FFX districts. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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> What moron would build/buy a $1M house in
> Manassas? No vacant lots available in SE?
Apparently there is an abundance of morons living on the east side of Manassas. Sorry, no vacant available lots in SE with 5 acres and waterfront views as there is this section of PWC. Again, say what you want but this school boundary district is more affluent than 90% of Fairfax County's districts. It draws from no town house, apartments, or condos. Can't say that about many FFX districts. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
joking?
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Date: December 29, 2010 02:59PM
SORRY TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE Wrote:
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> joking? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > What moron would build/buy a $1M house in
> > Manassas? No vacant lots available in SE?
>
>
> Apparently there is an abundance of morons living
> on the east side of Manassas. Sorry, no vacant
> available lots in SE with 5 acres and waterfront
> views as there is this section of PWC. Again, say
> what you want but this school boundary district is
> more affluent than 90% of Fairfax County's
> districts. It draws from no town house,
> apartments, or condos. Can't say that about many
> FFX districts. Sorry to burst your bubble.
2000 census numbers:
Median Income by Zip
20111 (Manassas) - 65K
22124 (Oakton) - 116K
22066 (Great Falls) - 154K
22101 (McLean) - 125K
My bubble remains unburst.
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> joking? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > What moron would build/buy a $1M house in
> > Manassas? No vacant lots available in SE?
>
>
> Apparently there is an abundance of morons living
> on the east side of Manassas. Sorry, no vacant
> available lots in SE with 5 acres and waterfront
> views as there is this section of PWC. Again, say
> what you want but this school boundary district is
> more affluent than 90% of Fairfax County's
> districts. It draws from no town house,
> apartments, or condos. Can't say that about many
> FFX districts. Sorry to burst your bubble.
2000 census numbers:
Median Income by Zip
20111 (Manassas) - 65K
22124 (Oakton) - 116K
22066 (Great Falls) - 154K
22101 (McLean) - 125K
My bubble remains unburst.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Manassas
()
Date: December 29, 2010 04:30PM
We have friends who moved way out to Manassas. They bought a nice home in 2004 for $890,000. They now want to move and the agent told them they should price the house at $625,000. That is how low the homes are now going for in there development. They also have had three short sales near them. Homes in Fairfax have held value. Remember, location, location location!
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
davedavedave
()
Date: December 29, 2010 08:20PM
Manassas Wrote:
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> We have friends who moved way out to Manassas.
> They bought a nice home in 2004 for $890,000. They
> now want to move and the agent told them they
> should price the house at $625,000. That is how
> low the homes are now going for in there
> development. They also have had three short sales
> near them. Homes in Fairfax have held value.
> Remember, location, location location!
Prince william county screwed itself bad when they started harassing the latino community. Thousands of hardworking, honest latino citizens, legal immigrants and transitional immigrants fled the county when these racist police taticts were put into place. When the bubble burst it blew extra hard in PW county. Lots of the latinos moved to Fairfax and Culpeper counties.
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> We have friends who moved way out to Manassas.
> They bought a nice home in 2004 for $890,000. They
> now want to move and the agent told them they
> should price the house at $625,000. That is how
> low the homes are now going for in there
> development. They also have had three short sales
> near them. Homes in Fairfax have held value.
> Remember, location, location location!
Prince william county screwed itself bad when they started harassing the latino community. Thousands of hardworking, honest latino citizens, legal immigrants and transitional immigrants fled the county when these racist police taticts were put into place. When the bubble burst it blew extra hard in PW county. Lots of the latinos moved to Fairfax and Culpeper counties.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
PWC and spics
()
Date: December 29, 2010 08:24PM
If you are not legal you have broken a law. Do not tell me spics moving out did not make PWC better.
The home prices are so bad for people who bought before the crash. Most homes are now underwater. Prices will never go up higher again.
The home prices are so bad for people who bought before the crash. Most homes are now underwater. Prices will never go up higher again.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
$895,000 down to $625,000
()
Date: December 29, 2010 08:31PM
You see homes underwater all over PWC. Not a great place to live. They are also hurting from getting less property taxes.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Yanni
()
Date: December 29, 2010 10:04PM
Uh, when the bubble burst, it was the houses that had illegals in them that went under FIRST because they just quit paying their mortgage and left. PW had a many more illegals, so they had many more mortgages that went into foreclosure.
You want to blame the illegals? Go ahead, but the problems were multiple and they were just one factor. Fairfax and Arlington had much more liberal policies in place to keep the illegals in, so they just picked up and moved up here, so it was a mini-migration.
It boiled down to bad timing for PW, had they instituted their policies a few years earlier, the impact would not have been nearly as bad, time to recover from the migration. but with no economic stimulus that has happened in the past three years, the problems have been stagnant.
Blame the illegals and the timing. Sorry to get off topic.
You want to blame the illegals? Go ahead, but the problems were multiple and they were just one factor. Fairfax and Arlington had much more liberal policies in place to keep the illegals in, so they just picked up and moved up here, so it was a mini-migration.
It boiled down to bad timing for PW, had they instituted their policies a few years earlier, the impact would not have been nearly as bad, time to recover from the migration. but with no economic stimulus that has happened in the past three years, the problems have been stagnant.
Blame the illegals and the timing. Sorry to get off topic.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
retard
()
Date: December 30, 2010 12:32AM
Manassas Wrote:
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> We have friends who moved way out to Manassas.
> They bought a nice home in 2004 for $890,000. They
> now want to move and the agent told them they
> should price the house at $625,000. That is how
> low the homes are now going for in there
> development. They also have had three short sales
> near them. Homes in Fairfax have held value.
> Remember, location, location location!
Right...And Fairfax is NOT at all affected by the housing market crash...right?
Get your head out of the clouds.
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> We have friends who moved way out to Manassas.
> They bought a nice home in 2004 for $890,000. They
> now want to move and the agent told them they
> should price the house at $625,000. That is how
> low the homes are now going for in there
> development. They also have had three short sales
> near them. Homes in Fairfax have held value.
> Remember, location, location location!
Right...And Fairfax is NOT at all affected by the housing market crash...right?
Get your head out of the clouds.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
YOU ARE MISINFORMED
()
Date: December 30, 2010 12:45AM
joking? Wrote:
>
>
> 2000 census numbers:
>
> Median Income by Zip
>
> 20111 (Manassas) - 65K
> 22124 (Oakton) - 116K
> 22066 (Great Falls) - 154K
> 22101 (McLean) - 125K
>
> My bubble remains unburst.
Many flaws in your analysis. 20111 covers large parts of Manassas Park and the RT 28 corridor of Manassas that are not part of the Signal Hill School District. These are much lower income areas consisting of town-homes, condos, apartments, small single family homes. These households do not attend Signal Hill and drag down the median income for 20111 as a whole. Much more affluent than 20111 in the SHS District are sections of 20112 and 22192.
Affluence-wise things have changed quite a bit,in the 10+ years since the 2000 census. Most of the upscale, and McMansion neighborhoods in this area have been built after 2000.
As a side note, areas like Clifton, Great Falls, and McLean will always have a higher median income. I am not going to argue that. But to the people that think that Manassas does not have its nice upscale areas and neighborhoods...YOU ARE MISINFORMED.
>
>
> 2000 census numbers:
>
> Median Income by Zip
>
> 20111 (Manassas) - 65K
> 22124 (Oakton) - 116K
> 22066 (Great Falls) - 154K
> 22101 (McLean) - 125K
>
> My bubble remains unburst.
Many flaws in your analysis. 20111 covers large parts of Manassas Park and the RT 28 corridor of Manassas that are not part of the Signal Hill School District. These are much lower income areas consisting of town-homes, condos, apartments, small single family homes. These households do not attend Signal Hill and drag down the median income for 20111 as a whole. Much more affluent than 20111 in the SHS District are sections of 20112 and 22192.
Affluence-wise things have changed quite a bit,in the 10+ years since the 2000 census. Most of the upscale, and McMansion neighborhoods in this area have been built after 2000.
As a side note, areas like Clifton, Great Falls, and McLean will always have a higher median income. I am not going to argue that. But to the people that think that Manassas does not have its nice upscale areas and neighborhoods...YOU ARE MISINFORMED.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
*Puss N Boots Hanging from Noose*
()
Date: December 30, 2010 02:59AM
Maybe so, but does anyone really give a fuck ?
MANNASSSAS IS A 3RD WORLD MEXICAN SHIT-HOLE.
MANNASSSAS IS A 3RD WORLD MEXICAN SHIT-HOLE.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
To retard
()
Date: December 30, 2010 08:21AM
My house has not gone down in value.
Keep saying how much you LOVE Manassas. It will always be thought of as a redneck, Mexican shit bucket.
Keep saying how much you LOVE Manassas. It will always be thought of as a redneck, Mexican shit bucket.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
sure, what ever you say
()
Date: December 30, 2010 09:56PM
To retard Wrote:
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> My house has not gone down in value.
>
> Keep saying how much you LOVE Manassas. It will
> always be thought of as a redneck, Mexican shit
> bucket.
Keep believing that, if it makes you feel good. Every house in the DC area has lost value since the real estate market crash....Except for yours.
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> My house has not gone down in value.
>
> Keep saying how much you LOVE Manassas. It will
> always be thought of as a redneck, Mexican shit
> bucket.
Keep believing that, if it makes you feel good. Every house in the DC area has lost value since the real estate market crash....Except for yours.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
ITRADE
()
Date: December 30, 2010 11:03PM
Probably not the White House.
Some have lost more so than others. The futher you get from the Beltway, the worse it was.
Some have lost more so than others. The futher you get from the Beltway, the worse it was.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
to itade
()
Date: December 31, 2010 10:01AM
I bought my house the end of 2007. I live in McLean.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Needs to come a time
()
Date: December 31, 2010 05:57PM
Doesn't it make you mad that you can't afford your home because you lose so much money for taxes that pay people to feed their kids and pay school fees for kids and we live in the same economy and having a hard time and they are taking advantage. There needs to come a time when people say they have had enough and to stop giving so everyone can get back on track. We need to stop taking are of the illegals and the lazy people that we have in Fairfax County.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
burden is too much
()
Date: December 31, 2010 06:10PM
What is really scary is that half the people in this country do not pay taxes. How long can the other half prop them up? The responsible half is falling down with the weight of this.
One out of five gets food stamps (that was reported the other day). We have almost 10% unemployment. It doesn't take a PhD to see that this has to be turned around SOON.
One out of five gets food stamps (that was reported the other day). We have almost 10% unemployment. It doesn't take a PhD to see that this has to be turned around SOON.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Needs to come a time
()
Date: December 31, 2010 09:55PM
You said it better than I could. We need to stand together as one and tell the government NO not anymore, time to take control back to the tax payers and find a politician that will stand by what the public wants.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
worth a try
()
Date: January 01, 2011 01:29AM
Maybe we can give EVERY child's parent that goes to school a $15 weekly allowance to buy lunch items. Fairfax county will still come out ahead. The only problem is the lazy parent will not make the lunch.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
learning
()
Date: January 01, 2011 09:41PM
There should be a challange for parents of kids to see if they can feed a kid a full week for $15. Look for sales and use coupons they might even have enough to save a little. Then they could apply that towards their child's 529 plan. We need to wake these parents up. Maybe the schools shoul teach the parents about how to be financially responsible. If FCPS could do this they would be helping the adults as well as the kids.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
teacher
()
Date: January 02, 2011 01:56PM
It is easier to just give than to teach.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
eat today
()
Date: January 03, 2011 05:36AM
The kids can eat today. School is back in session.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
This guy belongs in Manassas
()
Date: January 05, 2011 09:33AM
*Puss N Boots Hanging from Noose* Wrote:
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> Maybe so, but does anyone really give a fuck ?
>
> MANNASSSAS IS A 3RD WORLD MEXICAN SHIT-HOLE.
FYI, The vast majority of Hispanics living in the Manassas area as well as the Northern VA area are from Central America and not Mexico. I suppose that you associate anyone speaking Spanish as "Mexican".
Well, just from the few lines that you wrote it is apparent that not only are you a lower-class racist, but also uneducated and ignorant. Tell us a little more about yourself. Write a couple more lines!
If the other posters are correct about the rednecks in Manassas, a hillbilly like yourself would make a perfect fit.
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> Maybe so, but does anyone really give a fuck ?
>
> MANNASSSAS IS A 3RD WORLD MEXICAN SHIT-HOLE.
FYI, The vast majority of Hispanics living in the Manassas area as well as the Northern VA area are from Central America and not Mexico. I suppose that you associate anyone speaking Spanish as "Mexican".
Well, just from the few lines that you wrote it is apparent that not only are you a lower-class racist, but also uneducated and ignorant. Tell us a little more about yourself. Write a couple more lines!
If the other posters are correct about the rednecks in Manassas, a hillbilly like yourself would make a perfect fit.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Do we CARE where they are from?
()
Date: January 05, 2011 10:19AM
They are not legal, they do not pay taxes, they bring crime to the area, they get medical services for free ect.. Who gives a fuck where they are from. We just want them to go back to whatever shit hole they left.
I always wonder why they do NOT try and IMPROVE their own country but want to come here and ruin ours.
I always wonder why they do NOT try and IMPROVE their own country but want to come here and ruin ours.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Your Right
()
Date: January 05, 2011 08:01PM
You are so very right. The reason they are here is they know that we (US) will not let them starve or live on the street. We give a family of 4 about $40,000 of benefits and they will not even learn to speak our language or say thank you. All they do is bring crime and ruin neighborhoods. I watch them throw trash out of the windows when they drive or just walk out of 7-11. The older people that our in the country don't even want to learn anything they like being dumb. They are dumb in their own language.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
English
()
Date: January 05, 2011 08:31PM
I have had the same Hispanic cleaning lady for over ten years. Legal too. She and her family have not learned a lick of English since when they first moved here. If I have need to change an a day I need to call her GREAT granddaughter. Why is this? Maybe since they live in Manassas they do not need to learn English.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
YOU = SPICTARD
()
Date: January 05, 2011 10:22PM
Anon-SHIT-BROWN-Manassas resident wrote :
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> "FYI, The vast majority of Hispanics living in the Manassas area
> as well as the Northern VA area are from Central America and not Mexico.
COMPLETE BULLSHIT DUMBASS.
> "I suppose that you associate anyone speaking Spanish as "Mexican".
SUPPOSE AGAIN DUMBASS.
WE CERTAINLY KNOW THEY BOTH SPEAK THE SAME
ASS-BACKWARDS RETARDED LANGUAGE !
> "Well, just from the few lines that you wrote it is apparent
> that not only are you a lower-class racist,
SORRY I'M NO LOWER CLASS DIRTBALL LIKE YOUR MOTHER
NOR AM I A RACIST LIKE YOURSELF WHO SUPPORTS THIEVING LAW BREAKING LEACHES ON THE ASS OF HARD WORKING HONEST LAW ABIDING AMERICAN FAMILIES JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR ETHNIC BACKROUND.
YA FUCKING RACIST.
> "but also uneducated and ignorant."
YOU'RE ONE TO TALK YOU STUPID RACIST.
> "Tell us a little more about yourself."
WHY WOULD I WASTE MY TIME ?
PLUS WE ALREADY KNOW YOU ARE SOME CRIMINAL SPIC LOVING MINORITY.
> "Write a couple more lines!"
WHY DON'T YOU GO SNIFF A COUPLE MORE LINES YOU DOPEHEAD.
> "If the other posters are correct about the rednecks in Manassas,
THE REDNECKS ?
AS OPPOSED TO THE SHIT-BROWNNECK MEXICANS ?
> "a hillbilly like yourself would make a perfect fit."
A PERFECT FIT IS MY SIZE 12 BOOT SHOVED FAR UP YOUR WIDE FAGGOT ASS.
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> "FYI, The vast majority of Hispanics living in the Manassas area
> as well as the Northern VA area are from Central America and not Mexico.
COMPLETE BULLSHIT DUMBASS.
> "I suppose that you associate anyone speaking Spanish as "Mexican".
SUPPOSE AGAIN DUMBASS.
WE CERTAINLY KNOW THEY BOTH SPEAK THE SAME
ASS-BACKWARDS RETARDED LANGUAGE !
> "Well, just from the few lines that you wrote it is apparent
> that not only are you a lower-class racist,
SORRY I'M NO LOWER CLASS DIRTBALL LIKE YOUR MOTHER
NOR AM I A RACIST LIKE YOURSELF WHO SUPPORTS THIEVING LAW BREAKING LEACHES ON THE ASS OF HARD WORKING HONEST LAW ABIDING AMERICAN FAMILIES JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR ETHNIC BACKROUND.
YA FUCKING RACIST.
> "but also uneducated and ignorant."
YOU'RE ONE TO TALK YOU STUPID RACIST.
> "Tell us a little more about yourself."
WHY WOULD I WASTE MY TIME ?
PLUS WE ALREADY KNOW YOU ARE SOME CRIMINAL SPIC LOVING MINORITY.
> "Write a couple more lines!"
WHY DON'T YOU GO SNIFF A COUPLE MORE LINES YOU DOPEHEAD.
> "If the other posters are correct about the rednecks in Manassas,
THE REDNECKS ?
AS OPPOSED TO THE SHIT-BROWNNECK MEXICANS ?
> "a hillbilly like yourself would make a perfect fit."
A PERFECT FIT IS MY SIZE 12 BOOT SHOVED FAR UP YOUR WIDE FAGGOT ASS.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Voice for US rights
()
Date: January 07, 2011 05:27AM
If we stop giving them everything they will learn they have to work and not expect everything for free. Then they would learn they have to learn to speak the language or they will be out of luck communicating but we give in and always have people to translate for them. It is not only bad here but all over the US. Our politicians need to know that we US citizens want change. We really need to start being vocal about it. Maybe someone will listen.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
change
()
Date: January 07, 2011 12:48PM
Voice for US rights Wrote:
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> If we stop giving them everything they will learn
> they have to work and not expect everything for
> free. Then they would learn they have to learn to
> speak the language or they will be out of luck
> communicating but we give in and always have
> people to translate for them. It is not only bad
> here but all over the US. Our politicians need to
> know that we US citizens want change. We really
> need to start being vocal about it. Maybe someone
> will listen.
Democratic politicians will not change the system. Those illegals now have children that were born here so they are considered Americans and are now of voting age. If they send their Mom and Pop home (who were illegal), it will tick off a big part of the Democratic voting base. As time goes on, that voting base will continue to increase and the Dems will be less and less likely to ever change anything because they want those votes. We are one of the few countries who give someone the right to be a citizen just because they were born on US soil. Until that law gets changed, nothing will change other than our tax bill for things like free lunch will continue to increase.
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> If we stop giving them everything they will learn
> they have to work and not expect everything for
> free. Then they would learn they have to learn to
> speak the language or they will be out of luck
> communicating but we give in and always have
> people to translate for them. It is not only bad
> here but all over the US. Our politicians need to
> know that we US citizens want change. We really
> need to start being vocal about it. Maybe someone
> will listen.
Democratic politicians will not change the system. Those illegals now have children that were born here so they are considered Americans and are now of voting age. If they send their Mom and Pop home (who were illegal), it will tick off a big part of the Democratic voting base. As time goes on, that voting base will continue to increase and the Dems will be less and less likely to ever change anything because they want those votes. We are one of the few countries who give someone the right to be a citizen just because they were born on US soil. Until that law gets changed, nothing will change other than our tax bill for things like free lunch will continue to increase.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
signs
()
Date: January 07, 2011 12:53PM
Voice for US rights Wrote:
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> If we stop giving them everything they will learn
> they have to work and not expect everything for
> free. Then they would learn they have to learn to
> speak the language or they will be out of luck
> communicating but we give in and always have
> people to translate for them. It is not only bad
> here but all over the US. Our politicians need to
> know that we US citizens want change. We really
> need to start being vocal about it. Maybe someone
> will listen.
Even FCPS school system is handicapping them. Go to Willow Springs Elementary cafeteria, for example, and you will see all the signs that are in Spanish. Why learn English when you don't have too?
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> If we stop giving them everything they will learn
> they have to work and not expect everything for
> free. Then they would learn they have to learn to
> speak the language or they will be out of luck
> communicating but we give in and always have
> people to translate for them. It is not only bad
> here but all over the US. Our politicians need to
> know that we US citizens want change. We really
> need to start being vocal about it. Maybe someone
> will listen.
Even FCPS school system is handicapping them. Go to Willow Springs Elementary cafeteria, for example, and you will see all the signs that are in Spanish. Why learn English when you don't have too?
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Willow Springs?
()
Date: January 07, 2011 03:03PM
IS Willow Springs full of spics?
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
si
()
Date: January 08, 2011 10:18AM
yes
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
snow who will feed the kids
()
Date: January 09, 2011 09:20PM
Parents are going to have to feed their own children if it snows.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
just not right
()
Date: January 09, 2011 09:27PM
snow who will feed the kids Wrote:
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> Parents are going to have to feed their own
> children if it snows.
You are SO wrong. The county provides home breakfast & lunch delivery to these kids ANYTIME school is out. Snow days, holidays, etc......
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> Parents are going to have to feed their own
> children if it snows.
You are SO wrong. The county provides home breakfast & lunch delivery to these kids ANYTIME school is out. Snow days, holidays, etc......
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
snow who will feed the kids
()
Date: January 09, 2011 09:37PM
Who got to be kidding. They really take food to their homes? Who takes it there. I am learning so much from this board.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
you are so like stupid????
()
Date: January 09, 2011 09:42PM
Snow days are no food days. Dumb bitch. Get with the program.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
stupid you are wrong
()
Date: January 09, 2011 09:53PM
They do have social workers that takes food to peoples houses.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
bye bye free lunch program
()
Date: January 10, 2011 07:54AM
I say do away with the free lunch program and give all the teachers a raise. Another great idea is to have parents feed their own children.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
teacher raise
()
Date: January 10, 2011 07:20PM
I am a teacher and I agree. Parents have to take care of their own children then they will have respect for themselves.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
stop this program
()
Date: January 13, 2011 08:51PM
Get rid of this program in the United States. Everyone is coming over here from other countries living on us. It needs to stop. I do not have anymore to give. I need to support MY family not other people's families.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
I agree!
()
Date: January 13, 2011 08:58PM
Pay for your own children. It will make them proud and happy. No child wants to be a free lunch loser. Brown bag it and be proud! Let's teach kids early on NOTHING is free.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Nothing is free is so true!
()
Date: January 14, 2011 06:45PM
I work hard like everyone else does and FCPS is a waste pit. I agree we need to get FCPS to account for where our tax money goes to.
It would be nice if parents also brown bag it for your kids lunch. They will love for it. Plus school lunch is CRAP.
It would be nice if parents also brown bag it for your kids lunch. They will love for it. Plus school lunch is CRAP.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
again and again
()
Date: January 15, 2011 02:39PM
The county has to stop making it so easy for them. They have people who fill out the paperworkat school they have people give them the forms. They really do not have to go out and look for help it just comes to them. Events that come up they do not save for like proms, graduation, there are organizations that gives them stuff so why worry others will take care of it.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Way Too Broad
()
Date: January 15, 2011 03:04PM
again and again Wrote:
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> The county has to stop making it so easy for them.
> They have people who fill out the paperworkat
> school they have people give them the forms. They
> really do not have to go out and look for help it
> just comes to them. Events that come up they do
> not save for like proms, graduation, there are
> organizations that gives them stuff so why worry
> others will take care of it.
This year, the FCPS is doing an "audit" of their medical plan for the employees. As a result of this audit, employees have to provide copies of birth certificates (of children) as well as copies of marriage licenses to prove they are married and their spouse would be covered under the plan.
As a result of this audit (which cost the county FCPS something like $270K), they've already had so many employees "modify" their medical plans because they obviously were not capable of providing proof of their dependents and / or spouses, the FCPS has saved a few million dollars on medical costs.
I think something like this needs to be done on the free and reduced cost meal plan. If the parents had to truly provide income proof, the school would probably be down to a few dozen students who would actually qualify for these plans. Those parents who drive BMWs and Mercedes Benz autos, yet have their children eating for free at the school should be very ashamed of their behavior.
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> The county has to stop making it so easy for them.
> They have people who fill out the paperworkat
> school they have people give them the forms. They
> really do not have to go out and look for help it
> just comes to them. Events that come up they do
> not save for like proms, graduation, there are
> organizations that gives them stuff so why worry
> others will take care of it.
This year, the FCPS is doing an "audit" of their medical plan for the employees. As a result of this audit, employees have to provide copies of birth certificates (of children) as well as copies of marriage licenses to prove they are married and their spouse would be covered under the plan.
As a result of this audit (which cost the county FCPS something like $270K), they've already had so many employees "modify" their medical plans because they obviously were not capable of providing proof of their dependents and / or spouses, the FCPS has saved a few million dollars on medical costs.
I think something like this needs to be done on the free and reduced cost meal plan. If the parents had to truly provide income proof, the school would probably be down to a few dozen students who would actually qualify for these plans. Those parents who drive BMWs and Mercedes Benz autos, yet have their children eating for free at the school should be very ashamed of their behavior.
Idiots
Posted by:
GTFO
()
Date: January 15, 2011 06:31PM
Low-income households have been eligible for discounted telephone service for more than a decade. But the program is funded by telecom companies, not by taxes, and the president has nothing to do with it.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
BrandonVA
()
Date: January 15, 2011 06:36PM
Funded by the company means that the costs get pushed onto the consumer along with reductions in pay/benefits to new hires.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Audit should be done
()
Date: January 15, 2011 08:02PM
If we as Fairfax taxpayers do not ask for an account on many of these programs we will always have waste.
It most business accounts you must show the gov't how you spend/ tax your money. Why not in Fairfax public co schools?
For many years we have been told what a great school system we have. I have many doubts now?
It most business accounts you must show the gov't how you spend/ tax your money. Why not in Fairfax public co schools?
For many years we have been told what a great school system we have. I have many doubts now?
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Too funny
()
Date: January 15, 2011 08:09PM
stupid you are wrong Wrote:
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> They do have social workers that takes food to
> peoples houses.
You are claiming that social workers take food to these students' homes? Truly too funny to even contemplate. They don't. Do you realize the number of people they would have to hire to deliver the food? And what, the cafeteria workers come in on snow days to make the food? Thanks for writing such a funny post, even funnier that at least one person claimed to be learning from posts like yours.
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> They do have social workers that takes food to
> peoples houses.
You are claiming that social workers take food to these students' homes? Truly too funny to even contemplate. They don't. Do you realize the number of people they would have to hire to deliver the food? And what, the cafeteria workers come in on snow days to make the food? Thanks for writing such a funny post, even funnier that at least one person claimed to be learning from posts like yours.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Social workers
()
Date: January 15, 2011 08:34PM
What crack are you smoking? fCPS does not provide free lunch to kids at home.
How stupid are you to think that is even possible?
How stupid are you to think that is even possible?
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
helper
()
Date: January 19, 2011 04:21PM
There are people that take food to people.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
question2
()
Date: January 23, 2011 01:15PM
Do you know if parents have to re-apply each year for this program? Or if you get it you keep it all the time you are in school.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
lunch is free
()
Date: January 23, 2011 02:31PM
question2 Wrote:
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> Do you know if parents have to re-apply each year
> for this program? Or if you get it you keep it
> all the time you are in school.
http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/Governance/notices/iegs/EligibilityManual.pdf
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> Do you know if parents have to re-apply each year
> for this program? Or if you get it you keep it
> all the time you are in school.
http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/Governance/notices/iegs/EligibilityManual.pdf
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Pay for AP test
()
Date: March 05, 2011 11:31PM
Just wondering it they get the AP test for free also?
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Shadow
()
Date: March 05, 2011 11:37PM
Do students eligible for free and reduced priced meals have to pay AP-IB exam fees? No. FCPS will pay the exam costs for all students eligible for free and reduced priced meals. In order to receive this benefit, it is important that parents and guardians return the proper forms to the FCPS Gatehouse Administration Center, 8115 Gatehouse Road, Suite 4100, Falls Church, Va., 22042, attention: Gabriela Ramos.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
their right
()
Date: March 16, 2011 10:21PM
I did not believe all the stuff on this board when I first started reading and since the beginning of the new year I have started noticing and asking questions at the school where my kids go and almost all of this is true. It is very upsetting. Good honest working families work hard to pay for their kids then are many many families that push it off on the tax payer. When can we say NO to these people and tell them to go to work even if it is McDonals, Walmart or cleaning houses to pay for their own children. Why is their children our responsibility to pay for their expenses?????
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Dig Dug
()
Date: March 17, 2011 04:51PM
Rumor has it Michelle wants to feed the SACC kids dinner too.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
reasonWhy
()
Date: March 17, 2011 06:58PM
their right Wrote:
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> I did not believe all the stuff on this board when
> I first started reading and since the beginning of
> the new year I have started noticing and asking
> questions at the school where my kids go and
> almost all of this is true. It is very upsetting.
> Good honest working families work hard to pay for
> their kids then are many many families that push
> it off on the tax payer. When can we say NO to
> these people and tell them to go to work even if
> it is McDonals, Walmart or cleaning houses to pay
> for their own children. Why is their children our
> responsibility to pay for their expenses?????
Because Prince William changed their laws. The problem then shifted over here and none of our Fairfax County Supervisors have the guts to do anything about it.
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> I did not believe all the stuff on this board when
> I first started reading and since the beginning of
> the new year I have started noticing and asking
> questions at the school where my kids go and
> almost all of this is true. It is very upsetting.
> Good honest working families work hard to pay for
> their kids then are many many families that push
> it off on the tax payer. When can we say NO to
> these people and tell them to go to work even if
> it is McDonals, Walmart or cleaning houses to pay
> for their own children. Why is their children our
> responsibility to pay for their expenses?????
Because Prince William changed their laws. The problem then shifted over here and none of our Fairfax County Supervisors have the guts to do anything about it.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
mmoore
()
Date: March 17, 2011 09:56PM
reasonWhy Wrote:
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> their right Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I did not believe all the stuff on this board
> when
> > I first started reading and since the beginning
> of
> > the new year I have started noticing and asking
> > questions at the school where my kids go and
> > almost all of this is true. It is very
> upsetting.
> > Good honest working families work hard to pay
> for
> > their kids then are many many families that
> push
> > it off on the tax payer. When can we say NO to
> > these people and tell them to go to work even
> if
> > it is McDonals, Walmart or cleaning houses to
> pay
> > for their own children. Why is their children
> our
> > responsibility to pay for their expenses?????
>
>
> Because Prince William changed their laws. The
> problem then shifted over here and none of our
> Fairfax County Supervisors have the guts to do
> anything about it.
+1000!
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> their right Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I did not believe all the stuff on this board
> when
> > I first started reading and since the beginning
> of
> > the new year I have started noticing and asking
> > questions at the school where my kids go and
> > almost all of this is true. It is very
> upsetting.
> > Good honest working families work hard to pay
> for
> > their kids then are many many families that
> push
> > it off on the tax payer. When can we say NO to
> > these people and tell them to go to work even
> if
> > it is McDonals, Walmart or cleaning houses to
> pay
> > for their own children. Why is their children
> our
> > responsibility to pay for their expenses?????
>
>
> Because Prince William changed their laws. The
> problem then shifted over here and none of our
> Fairfax County Supervisors have the guts to do
> anything about it.
+1000!
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
WakeUp
()
Date: March 18, 2011 05:53AM
mmoore Wrote:
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> reasonWhy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > their right Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I did not believe all the stuff on this board
> > when
> > > I first started reading and since the
> beginning
> > of
> > > the new year I have started noticing and
> asking
> > > questions at the school where my kids go and
> > > almost all of this is true. It is very
> > upsetting.
> > > Good honest working families work hard to
> pay
> > for
> > > their kids then are many many families that
> > push
> > > it off on the tax payer. When can we say NO
> to
> > > these people and tell them to go to work even
> > if
> > > it is McDonals, Walmart or cleaning houses to
> > pay
> > > for their own children. Why is their
> children
> > our
> > > responsibility to pay for their expenses?????
> >
> >
> > Because Prince William changed their laws.
> The
> > problem then shifted over here and none of our
> > Fairfax County Supervisors have the guts to do
> > anything about it.
>
> +1000!
+2000!
It isn't just the free and reduced lunch program that was affected by the shifts from Prince William to Fairfax. The schools are overcrowded and class sizes keep growing. The Southwestern Boundary study just occurred and those areas are right along the border of Prince William. Why do you think there was suddenly so much overcrowding in that area? The other problem is that more people are now using the resources (schools) than are actually paying into them (taxes). We are now feeling the impact of that as we are now going to be going on three years of no increases in teacher pay. Wake up Fairfax County.
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> reasonWhy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > their right Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I did not believe all the stuff on this board
> > when
> > > I first started reading and since the
> beginning
> > of
> > > the new year I have started noticing and
> asking
> > > questions at the school where my kids go and
> > > almost all of this is true. It is very
> > upsetting.
> > > Good honest working families work hard to
> pay
> > for
> > > their kids then are many many families that
> > push
> > > it off on the tax payer. When can we say NO
> to
> > > these people and tell them to go to work even
> > if
> > > it is McDonals, Walmart or cleaning houses to
> > pay
> > > for their own children. Why is their
> children
> > our
> > > responsibility to pay for their expenses?????
> >
> >
> > Because Prince William changed their laws.
> The
> > problem then shifted over here and none of our
> > Fairfax County Supervisors have the guts to do
> > anything about it.
>
> +1000!
+2000!
It isn't just the free and reduced lunch program that was affected by the shifts from Prince William to Fairfax. The schools are overcrowded and class sizes keep growing. The Southwestern Boundary study just occurred and those areas are right along the border of Prince William. Why do you think there was suddenly so much overcrowding in that area? The other problem is that more people are now using the resources (schools) than are actually paying into them (taxes). We are now feeling the impact of that as we are now going to be going on three years of no increases in teacher pay. Wake up Fairfax County.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
uninspiring situation
()
Date: March 18, 2011 07:46AM
The classes are way too large and the teachers keep being pressured to make everyone pass. And there's not any raise in the paycheck so morale is sinking. Dang, the whole ship is sinking. How can a kid who is struggling really get help with so many others around him/her in the same boat? You can't squeeze blood from a turnip.
The other thing that is happening is that kids are cheating up a storm and the teachers are looking the other way. What comes around goes around. We are going to pay one way or the other.
Fairfax has to realize that it can't save the world. It has to put on its own oxygen mask before helping others.
The other thing that is happening is that kids are cheating up a storm and the teachers are looking the other way. What comes around goes around. We are going to pay one way or the other.
Fairfax has to realize that it can't save the world. It has to put on its own oxygen mask before helping others.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
chippie
()
Date: March 18, 2011 10:19AM
It's ok because those who run everything keep telling everyone that people move here because of the schools. Guess the board needs to have a contest for a new slogan.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Older
()
Date: March 18, 2011 03:50PM
Not all but most of the kids that come to the high school with the free and reduced lunch are disruptive kids. They don't care about a high school diploma. They want to hang out with their friends, walk out of class or cuss the teachers out. Most of the parents could care less that their kids are disrespectful and rude. The kids that act like this their parents act like that also. This is what all the "give me" has done with this generation.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
please
()
Date: March 19, 2011 04:13PM
Can someone run for office that will do something about all the abuse with this program. I don't think the place where the forms get processed for FCPS check them. If you fill out the form they just give it to them. Please someone run for office and STOP this.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Real Estate Tax Casualty
()
Date: March 19, 2011 07:22PM
The School System takes 55% of the the budget. Way more should be cut. Lunches are small potatoes. What needs to drastically be cut is the outrageous teacher pensions. 75% of average last 3 years of salary. My real estate taxes have double in the last 8 years to pay for these extreme benefits.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Trailer Trash
()
Date: March 19, 2011 07:26PM
Now that you made this post from the library, please go home to your trailer park.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
stick to muscle car fixing
()
Date: March 19, 2011 08:52PM
I'm sure that all you bigots bitching about FCPS are well qualified to do a better job. Seems like having one of the top education systems in the country is not good enough that we need help from some toothless redneck on an Internet forum.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
out of debt
()
Date: April 09, 2011 10:26PM
Maybe with the new budget they will get rid of these programs so we can get this country out of debt.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Bottom line
()
Date: April 10, 2011 12:09AM
The best solution to eliminating poverty is education. The best way to learn is to be prepared for learning. Proper nutrition is a key to being ready to learn. FCPS lunches have a very high nationally accredited rating. There are fresh fruits/vegetables available every day, lowfat choices, vegetarian options, etc. It's not the school lunch you remember. I know of a little girl who went to school with her bag lunch on the first day, and in it there was a handful of potato chips and a small bag of marshmallows. We sent home the lunch form. Yes, the parent liaison also got involved, and yes, it's nice to offer parenting classes, etc., too. Schools are doing their best to help in this area. But the priority remains student learning. We can't blame a five year old for not having what she needs to learn. And we can't ignore the situation and push her down a path of being a lifelong drain on the system either.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Agree
()
Date: April 10, 2011 12:21AM
As a parent who often volunteers at our daughter's school, you would be shocked at the junk that comes into schools in lunchboxes. The school lunch is often much healthier. I'm not saying this just for kids in poverty. I'm saying it for kids in general. I think a lot of them must be packing it for themselves, because it would be awful to think parents are making some of these choices. And you wonder why behavior is such a concern for some kids? Start by looking at their diets!
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
tax payer
()
Date: April 10, 2011 08:48AM
Go to a high school and look what is thrown in the trash. Then watch the same kds who get free lunch pul out all kinds of money for the snack machines. The abuse is that many many parents have money to make good lunches for their kids but lie on the forms to qualify for the free lunch and all the benefits that go along with it. It is a joke. Ask any cafeteria person what the kids eat and what is thrown away. The tax payers are funding all this. Most of the parents that do this are sitting at home doing nothing but waiting for others to take care of their children and them. Everyone feels entitled. The ones that do work want to keep their money and have tax payers pick up the slack for their kids for all of school costs not just lunch. That is what I am fed up with.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
grown up Mom
()
Date: April 10, 2011 08:54AM
Have any of you eaten a FCPS school lunch lately?
My mom couldn't understand why I didn't want to buy when I was in elementary school. She ate a school lunch one day and figured it out.
My mom couldn't understand why I didn't want to buy when I was in elementary school. She ate a school lunch one day and figured it out.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
truth6
()
Date: April 10, 2011 09:08AM
How much does it really cost for but enough stuff for a good bag lunch packed by mom in the morning. Bread, good lunch meat or egg, ham salad, healthy chips, fruit. It might take a little time o go to the store and time to fix it. Maybe spending 20 dollars or less. Parents on free and reduced do want to be bothered. They are basicall lazy and the first to complain. I volunteer are my kids middle school and high school and see how the kids act but I see they learn it from their parents who come into to school when they have an issue instead of talking start yelling and then the bad words follow without a care who is around to hear them. If I worked at the schools I would band these parents till they learned how to act. As someone earlier said it is not the kids fault, they learn it at home. One thing I know they learn is how to take advantage of people and know by cussing someone out they can have their way. It is all upbringing.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Really?
()
Date: April 10, 2011 09:54AM
Newsflash. Many of our families really dont have those "20 dollars or less" each week, and if they did, they couldn't make as nutitiously comparable a bagged meal to the lunch program. Until you see these needs on a daily basis, it's hard to understand. It's easy to complain about parental care when you see a child wearing a dirty shirt. But when the answer is sometimes that they had to make a choice between paying for dinner or paying for laundry detergent, it makes a difference. If it really bothers you, get involved with community action groups. Be a part of the solution.
Nobody likes to hear about people who take advantage and abuse a program. But to jump to the conclusion that the service should be cancelled because some abuse it isn't sensible either. Should we close the highways because some drivers speed? Eliminate liquor stores because some use fake ID's to get it?
It would be nice to have additional oversight to help prevent abusers to the system. But how should this be funded? Should we remove police officers from the street to stand next to the snack machines/watch the trash cans? Maybe hire additional people? How should we pay for that? And then would people be online complaining that we're paying for snack machine oversight?
Nobody likes to hear about people who take advantage and abuse a program. But to jump to the conclusion that the service should be cancelled because some abuse it isn't sensible either. Should we close the highways because some drivers speed? Eliminate liquor stores because some use fake ID's to get it?
It would be nice to have additional oversight to help prevent abusers to the system. But how should this be funded? Should we remove police officers from the street to stand next to the snack machines/watch the trash cans? Maybe hire additional people? How should we pay for that? And then would people be online complaining that we're paying for snack machine oversight?
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
munch munch
()
Date: April 10, 2011 10:00AM
truth6 Wrote:
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> How much does it really cost for but enough stuff
> for a good bag lunch packed by mom in the morning.
It costs money and time. Often when one does not have money it goes hand-in-hand with not having much time, either, due to multiple jobs.
I have no problem with the free lunch program (when properly applied - and, when dealing with large populations, what Fairfax does appears to majorly properly applied).
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> How much does it really cost for but enough stuff
> for a good bag lunch packed by mom in the morning.
It costs money and time. Often when one does not have money it goes hand-in-hand with not having much time, either, due to multiple jobs.
I have no problem with the free lunch program (when properly applied - and, when dealing with large populations, what Fairfax does appears to majorly properly applied).
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
reality check2
()
Date: April 10, 2011 10:28AM
For the families that really do need it there is no problem. BUT many of the kids that are on it have new North Face clothes, the expensive shoes, name brand bags ( I do not known the difference so when I ask the kid they all say they are real). My husband and I support our family(5 kids) on $51250 a year. I do not have a job outside the home but volunteer at my kids schools. I make lunches for all (including husband). We have the kids in all the after school sports, music and so forth but we budget to make sure we can afford it. We do not expect others to pay for our family. What upsets me is the way some families think it is the county problem to make sure their kids are able to play in extra leagues (scholarships) and if you are on the free lunch all the school fees are paid if they want to play. Then at school functions you hear these same families talk about where they are going out to eat, or the new clothes that they got their kids because others are subsidizing their lifestyle is my thinking. Nor do they feel guilty about it.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
yaknowwhatimean
()
Date: April 10, 2011 10:52AM
reality check2 Wrote:
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> For the families that really do need it there is
> no problem. BUT many of the kids that are on it...
>>> "...when dealing with large populations, what Fairfax does
>>> appears to be majorly properly applied
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> For the families that really do need it there is
> no problem. BUT many of the kids that are on it...
>>> "...when dealing with large populations, what Fairfax does
>>> appears to be majorly properly applied
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Come on now
()
Date: April 10, 2011 11:06AM
Exactly. Most often, the program works exactly as it should. And yet there are some who will try to get over on the system, which ticks everybody off. But what is the SOLUTION to that? Cancel the program that we agree makes a difference for those who need it? Fund additional oversight (at what cost? at what deteriment to another program?)?
I'm always amazed at people who complain about all of the problems they see and offer no other solution other than to expect people to do the right thing because they do the right thing themselves in their own family. The current system expects people to do the right thing! And yet some still manage to get over. Go figure. "Oh, we should just give poor families $15 per week and make them pack their own lunches. But they better not use name brand products, or we'll be onto them!" "Better yet, we'll fund the program and dictate exactly what they can eat and make sure it is healthy." How is that different from the current school lunch program? Are there still really people out there who think there is some simple magic bullet solution that can right the wrongs of poverty? And none of the rest of us thought of it yet until you, brillant taxpayer that you are, posted it on Fairfax Underground? We all agree that there are abusers in the system. But how should we monitor that better? At what cost?
By the way, I just donated a ton of gently used (like new) name brand clothes of our daughter's to a younger student whose family I know is in a terrible bind at the moment. She loves her new "GAP" sweatshirt and wears it all the time. Should I have tatooed "donated" on the back to make sure you all know that the family is not on the take?
I'm always amazed at people who complain about all of the problems they see and offer no other solution other than to expect people to do the right thing because they do the right thing themselves in their own family. The current system expects people to do the right thing! And yet some still manage to get over. Go figure. "Oh, we should just give poor families $15 per week and make them pack their own lunches. But they better not use name brand products, or we'll be onto them!" "Better yet, we'll fund the program and dictate exactly what they can eat and make sure it is healthy." How is that different from the current school lunch program? Are there still really people out there who think there is some simple magic bullet solution that can right the wrongs of poverty? And none of the rest of us thought of it yet until you, brillant taxpayer that you are, posted it on Fairfax Underground? We all agree that there are abusers in the system. But how should we monitor that better? At what cost?
By the way, I just donated a ton of gently used (like new) name brand clothes of our daughter's to a younger student whose family I know is in a terrible bind at the moment. She loves her new "GAP" sweatshirt and wears it all the time. Should I have tatooed "donated" on the back to make sure you all know that the family is not on the take?
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
missing the point
()
Date: April 10, 2011 11:34AM
Your missing the point. I think we give to much help so the people who really need to learn how to support themselves don't bother to learn. They know someone else will take care of it for them. When they learn to do for themselves then they get self respect. They feel good and then pass it on to their kids. It is a growing experience for them as parents and the kids would learn by watching them and not depending on handouts. That is why projects in the inner cities never worked.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Please elaborate
()
Date: April 10, 2011 11:47AM
I don't understand. Are you suggesting the school system should be more responsible in making parents learn to do things for themselves? There are tons of parent education workshops, ACE classes, etc. Are you suggesting the school system require them? How will they decide who must go? Who will pay for the instructors? The county already has a system for mandatory classes through the courts and such.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
learning2
()
Date: April 10, 2011 12:17PM
Parents and people in general need to take responsibility for their family. When we stop force feeding and telling them what to do. They need to examine where they are going in life and what it will take to get there. We as a country keep giving (the feel gooders) so the reciepients really don't learn how to take care of them or their family. When you keep forcefeeding people they never grow.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Self righteous
()
Date: April 10, 2011 12:38PM
reality check2 Wrote:
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> For the families that really do need it there is
> no problem. BUT many of the kids that are on it
> have new North Face clothes, the expensive shoes,
> name brand bags ( I do not known the difference so
> when I ask the kid they all say they are real).
> My husband and I support our family(5 kids) on
> $51250 a year.
What upsets me is low income families with 5 kids. I only have one kid and I'm sure I pay way more taxes than you. So to me your kind is just as much of a burden. Can you stop procreating like rabbits?
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> For the families that really do need it there is
> no problem. BUT many of the kids that are on it
> have new North Face clothes, the expensive shoes,
> name brand bags ( I do not known the difference so
> when I ask the kid they all say they are real).
> My husband and I support our family(5 kids) on
> $51250 a year.
What upsets me is low income families with 5 kids. I only have one kid and I'm sure I pay way more taxes than you. So to me your kind is just as much of a burden. Can you stop procreating like rabbits?
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Solution?
()
Date: April 10, 2011 12:39PM
What is your solution?
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Self righteous?
()
Date: April 10, 2011 12:42PM
I agree; that is a problem. What is your solution? Some kind of parenting authority who will grant permission for who can have children? Seems like more government, not less... Educational programs/parenting classes? We have those...
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
former teacher
()
Date: April 10, 2011 12:46PM
Many years ago, I taught in a school that had a huge percentage of free and reduced lunch students-many of them brought money for ice cream which was extra or to stop by the candy store on the way home.
The "bag lunch" kids seldom had money for ice cream. They were the kids of working parents who did not want a hand out.
Many of the free lunch kids dressed better than the others.
I agree that no child should go hungry-all children should be fed. I don't have the solution to this problem.
Sure would like to know which group turned out better......
The "bag lunch" kids seldom had money for ice cream. They were the kids of working parents who did not want a hand out.
Many of the free lunch kids dressed better than the others.
I agree that no child should go hungry-all children should be fed. I don't have the solution to this problem.
Sure would like to know which group turned out better......
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Self righteous
()
Date: April 10, 2011 12:50PM
My solution is to have families with more than 2 kids pay tuition. It's unfair that responsible families have to pay for people who keep pumping kids out like it's a factory line.
Re: Free and reduced lunch program
Posted by:
Self righteous
()
Date: April 10, 2011 01:34PM
reality check2 Wrote:
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> For the families that really do need it there is
> no problem. BUT many of the kids that are on it
> have new North Face clothes, the expensive shoes,
> name brand bags ( I do not known the difference so
> when I ask the kid they all say they are real).
> My husband and I support our family(5 kids) on
> $51250 a year. I do not have a job outside the
> home but volunteer at my kids schools. I make
> lunches for all (including husband). We have the
> kids in all the after school sports, music and so
> forth but we budget to make sure we can afford it.
> We do not expect others to pay for our family.
> What upsets me is the way some families think it
> is the county problem to make sure their kids are
> able to play in extra leagues (scholarships) and
> if you are on the free lunch all the school fees
> are paid if they want to play. Then at school
> functions you hear these same families talk about
> where they are going out to eat, or the new
> clothes that they got their kids because others
> are subsidizing their lifestyle is my thinking.
> Nor do they feel guilty about it.
Does it seem fair to you that my property taxes are close to $9k and I only have one kid? Haven't you realized that responsible families are subsidizing your redneck lifestyle. It doesn't seem like you feel guilty about it either.
Move to West Virginia.
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> For the families that really do need it there is
> no problem. BUT many of the kids that are on it
> have new North Face clothes, the expensive shoes,
> name brand bags ( I do not known the difference so
> when I ask the kid they all say they are real).
> My husband and I support our family(5 kids) on
> $51250 a year. I do not have a job outside the
> home but volunteer at my kids schools. I make
> lunches for all (including husband). We have the
> kids in all the after school sports, music and so
> forth but we budget to make sure we can afford it.
> We do not expect others to pay for our family.
> What upsets me is the way some families think it
> is the county problem to make sure their kids are
> able to play in extra leagues (scholarships) and
> if you are on the free lunch all the school fees
> are paid if they want to play. Then at school
> functions you hear these same families talk about
> where they are going out to eat, or the new
> clothes that they got their kids because others
> are subsidizing their lifestyle is my thinking.
> Nor do they feel guilty about it.
Does it seem fair to you that my property taxes are close to $9k and I only have one kid? Haven't you realized that responsible families are subsidizing your redneck lifestyle. It doesn't seem like you feel guilty about it either.
Move to West Virginia.