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Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: Glasshouse ()
Date: November 25, 2010 11:29PM

Anybody know of any notable historic homes that were demolished for the construction of Dulles Airport??

I know of Leeton in Chantilly built in the early 1800s but surely there were more.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: snowday ()
Date: November 25, 2010 11:39PM


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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: dsfsd ()
Date: November 26, 2010 12:22AM

there used to be the mcculloch house off of beaver meadow rd. built in the 1850s. i think they demolished it because of the new runaway

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: sad ()
Date: November 26, 2010 01:26AM

Theres a house right outside the property on Stonecroft Blvd from the 1930s thats still there. Though thats not really inside the airport just close to it.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: 50287100 ()
Date: November 26, 2010 01:50AM

sad-
whereabouts is this house? closest cross street, etc? it's probably just bc of the trees but i cant find it on bing maps.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: sad ()
Date: November 26, 2010 02:31AM

50287100 Wrote:
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> sad-
> whereabouts is this house? closest cross street,
> etc? it's probably just bc of the trees but i cant
> find it on bing maps.

stonecroft and thompson: http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qgk2wt8jbnz5&lvl=19.887157832281236&dir=269.29091027564334&sty=b&where1=Stonecroft%20Blvd%2C%20Chantilly%2C%20VA%2020151&q=stonecroft%20blvd%2C%20chantilly%2C%20va


theres another even older house near the airport on pleasant valley rd that looks like its from the 1800s: http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qgkxg88j9ss8&lvl=19.908261885080613&dir=263.18349304353825&sty=b&where1=Stonecroft%20Blvd%2C%20Chantilly%2C%20VA%2020151&q=stonecroft%20blvd%2C%20chantilly%2C%20va

read somewhere that it belongs to water works of Va but theres no info on the house itself

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: spritle ()
Date: November 26, 2010 04:49PM

sad Wrote:
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>
> stonecroft and thompson:
> http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qgk2wt8jbnz5&lvl=
> 19.887157832281236&dir=269.29091027564334&sty=b&wh
> ere1=Stonecroft%20Blvd%2C%20Chantilly%2C%20VA%2020
> 151&q=stonecroft%20blvd%2C%20chantilly%2C%20va
>
>
> What is this to the east? http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qgk2wt8jbnz5&lvl=19.887157832281236&dir=269.29091027564334&sty=b&where1=Stonecroft%20Blvd%2C%20Chantilly%2C%20VA%2020151&q=stonecroft%20blvd%2C%20chantilly%2C%20va some sort of test track or a race course? (well link is the same as above, but zoom out or pan to the right)

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: got me ()
Date: November 26, 2010 05:12PM

Police training? Has cop cars, firing range (or two - looks like one underground for rifles).

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: Whobe ()
Date: November 26, 2010 08:34PM

Yes, that's the police test track. Not sure why they need one but there it is....

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: worker ()
Date: November 26, 2010 09:48PM

theres one used as a shop or something in the airport from the 1920s

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: say ()
Date: November 26, 2010 11:18PM

Didn't an entire black town get the boot to make way for the airport?

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: canon ()
Date: November 26, 2010 11:20PM

say Wrote:
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> Didn't an entire black town get the boot to make
> way for the airport?

yeah, willard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard,_VA

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: babybaby ()
Date: July 02, 2011 04:28PM


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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: Lana ()
Date: September 08, 2011 11:52PM

This is wrong. Don't people have any rights? The county cannot use eminent domain as an excuse to remove a people's way of life in the name of money. There are many examples I know or have heard of in Chantilly where old buildings have been demolished and landowners have been asked ot leave to make way for real estate developments. This is wrong. You cannot take someone's land away when they have lived there 20, 30, or more years. You wish that the white collar criminals who orchestrated this could suffer a tiny portion of what they have inflicted on other people. Maybe they could be shamed out of office and/or not elected or re-elected in the first place. People must be aware of politics and what is happening in their area. Because you could lose your rights very quickly if you don't fight for them.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: capt obvious ()
Date: September 09, 2011 01:32AM

Lana Wrote:
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> This is wrong. Don't people have any rights? The
> county cannot use eminent domain as an excuse to
> remove a people's way of life in the name of
> money. There are many examples I know or have
> heard of in Chantilly where old buildings have
> been demolished and landowners have been asked ot
> leave to make way for real estate developments.
> This is wrong. You cannot take someone's land away
> when they have lived there 20, 30, or more years.
> You wish that the white collar criminals who
> orchestrated this could suffer a tiny portion of
> what they have inflicted on other people. Maybe
> they could be shamed out of office and/or not
> elected or re-elected in the first place. People
> must be aware of politics and what is happening in
> their area. Because you could lose your rights
> very quickly if you don't fight for them.


gee, yeah...that way we would never have 123 at 4 lanes, wouldn't have an airport for business to come to the area, wouldn't have either the ffx or pwc parkways,

yeah bad bad government....

There is a LOT of due process before any of that can happen....and IF they get it, they PAY the landowners........sucks to be those land owners....but then again they make money off of it, and it's the price you pay living in an growing area. Move to the side of a mountian in west by god virginia and I'm sure you would be happier

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: November 22, 2011 02:49AM

even then they weren't compensated nearly enough.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: wally pip jr. ()
Date: November 22, 2011 07:36AM

Driving down Beluah Road, near Vienna, Monday afternoon heading for Wolf Trap. A big old house on left side of Beluah, couple hundred yards from Wolf Trap ES,had always been there. I'm guessing the house was mid 1800's and probably belonged to owners of the farmland before the neighborhoods were built out there 30+ years ago. I believe the owner of property had gone before county govt.to rezone the property for multiple homes. I thought the county govt. had turned the application down but I guess someone greased the right wheels at the county govt. cause the old dark gray house is gone and signs up for sale building lots.
another piece of history gone. custom home builders going around the county picking off whats left of any historic homes

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: Capt obvious ()
Date: November 22, 2011 07:38AM

1962 Wrote:
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> even then they weren't compensated nearly enough.


Educate yourself on the process first before posting.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: fly Me ()
Date: November 22, 2011 10:54PM


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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: snowdenscold ()
Date: November 23, 2011 09:15AM

I agree with the theory of eminent domain, but I feel you should be compensated above fair market value, like +10% or +20% to offset the hassle of finding a new place, having to move, and (presumably) losing a location you really liked.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: betty ()
Date: December 01, 2011 12:19PM

babybaby Wrote:
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> here you go.
> http://dullesareahd.50webs.org/acquired.html

some of those are pretty old.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: Chuck Yeager ()
Date: December 02, 2011 07:39PM

Dulles Airport was originally planned for the Burke area, I don't know why it was moved.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: Not Robin Olds ()
Date: December 02, 2011 09:42PM

It was moved because Burke was more settled at the time, and many of the residents opposed. Also, the FAA didn't really like the area because it had a tendency to fog up, more so than the current Dulles Area.

Actually, the area was a little closer to Clifton.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: strat ()
Date: December 18, 2011 12:54AM

Lana or anyone else who doesn't think this does or should happen should google "Kelo v. New London"

If you aren't furious after that, got to reason.com and read the follow-ups.

It's everywhere. There have been some souls in the General Assembly who are trying to constrain the use of eminent domain for the benefit of private developers. As expected, the localities are up in arms about it because of their cozy relationships with the developers and their lust for tax revenue.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: mikea ()
Date: February 04, 2012 03:02AM

spritle Wrote:
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> sad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > stonecroft and thompson:
> >
> http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qgk2wt8jbnz5&lvl=
>
> >
> 19.887157832281236&dir=269.29091027564334&sty=b&wh
>
> >
> ere1=Stonecroft%20Blvd%2C%20Chantilly%2C%20VA%2020
>
> > 151&q=stonecroft%20blvd%2C%20chantilly%2C%20va
> >
> >
> > What is this to the east?
> http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qgk2wt8jbnz5&lvl=
> 19.887157832281236&dir=269.29091027564334&sty=b&wh
> ere1=Stonecroft%20Blvd%2C%20Chantilly%2C%20VA%2020
> 151&q=stonecroft%20blvd%2C%20chantilly%2C%20va
> some sort of test track or a race course? (well
> link is the same as above, but zoom out or pan to
> the right)


for the almighty dollar.
A very big loss to the culture and essence of the history of this area is lossed,

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: Lana ()
Date: January 25, 2015 12:54AM

spritle Wrote:
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> sad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > stonecroft and thompson:
> >
> http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qgk2wt8jbnz5&lvl=
>
> >
> 19.887157832281236&dir=269.29091027564334&sty=b&wh
>
> >
> ere1=Stonecroft%20Blvd%2C%20Chantilly%2C%20VA%2020
>
> > 151&q=stonecroft%20blvd%2C%20chantilly%2C%20va
> >
> >
> > What is this to the east?
> http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qgk2wt8jbnz5&lvl=
> 19.887157832281236&dir=269.29091027564334&sty=b&wh
> ere1=Stonecroft%20Blvd%2C%20Chantilly%2C%20VA%2020
> 151&q=stonecroft%20blvd%2C%20chantilly%2C%20va
> some sort of test track or a race course? (well
> link is the same as above, but zoom out or pan to
> the right)

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: Lana ()
Date: January 25, 2015 01:03AM

That is why we need a taskforce to research the importance of these structures, nominate them to the historical registry, and create as much awareness as possible so that local politicians will be forced to respect what is right, not just who funnels the most money into their campaign. Yes there are law firms that fight unlawful eminent domain but they get a lot more cases than they are able to handle. This is not a type of lawsuit that you want to fight by yourself. If you educate yourself about politics in northern virginia, you will see what special interests dominate the political scene. If that makes you angry or upset, then you have a responsibility to act. Now with the metro built, northern Dulles district is a target for dense development. This is one area of eastern Loudoun that still enjoys a semblance of rural life. Additionally, supervisors want to put many new developments inside of what was land eminent domained in the 1950s for the airport. If you do not agree with the build out frenzy then you need to start showing up to rezoning meetings immediately.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: NeLNF ()
Date: January 25, 2015 10:30AM

the county supervisor in Reston was caught using public authority in a real-estate scam

they (he and wife) zoned land one way , bought it up , then re-zoned it to make it high development value

THE ARTICLE IS IN THE WASH POST. they were charged and the allegations were proven true.


despite this fx co gov made sure their fellow supervisor GOT ZERO PENALTY - NONE - NEVER SUED - NEVER ARRESTED


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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: UtxtX ()
Date: January 25, 2015 10:31AM

reston is a "planned community". the supervisors plan tofuck you over and use labeling hoping you believe they have such authority, as "planning your failure".

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: The stupid never dies ()
Date: January 26, 2015 10:59AM

Kelo was rightly decided and was consistent with more than a century of legal precedent. It was the extremist property-rights whackos who wanted to overturn the status quo in that case. These are the people who recognize no interests other than their own. Drill for oil in a residential neighborhood? No problem. Need a couple of acres for some important public project? Get lost!

Meanwhile, the town of Conklin was also obliterated in the construction of Dulles. The area was used mostly as a materials staging yard and was down in the vicinity of what is now South Riding. It and Willard (now underneath the runways) had been predominantly black farming towns, though the one telephone switchboard for western Fairfax and lower Loudoun counties was operated out of the home of Flora Croson on the west side of Willard.

The Blue Ridge Airport meanwhile had to close during WWII because the owner could not afford to comply with wartime security measures,

The original site chosen for Dulles had been where Burke Lake Park is now, but authorities had increasing concern that the area would become so built up that obtaining land for future runway expansions would prove impossible. Dulles itself was pretty much a white elephant when it opened, as neither airlines nor passengers had any enthusiasm for the place at all. Size and distance limits on flights out of National helped Dulles get itself on the map.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: January 26, 2015 12:28PM

Kelo was consistent with legal precendent. Whether it was rightly decided is more debatable. I am not sure what relevance Kelo has to Dulles though.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: The stupid never dies ()
Date: January 26, 2015 01:04PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Kelo was consistent with legal precedent. Whether it
> was rightly decided is more debatable.

On what grounds? Eminent domain is an ancient power, and the Supreme Court has long been loathe to interfere in state and local judgments of what needs to be done and how. Basically, there was nothing out of the ordinary in the New London case other than the massive amounts of hard right-wing money invested in trying to overturn a body of well-established law. Fortunately, they failed.

> I am not sure what relevance Kelo has to Dulles though.

I doubt that the guy who first misrepresented Kelo did either.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: eminent domain ()
Date: January 26, 2015 01:27PM

Lana Wrote:
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> This is wrong. Don't people have any rights? The
> county cannot use eminent domain as an excuse to
> remove a people's way of life in the name of
> money. There are many examples I know or have
> heard of in Chantilly where old buildings have
> been demolished and landowners have been asked ot
> leave to make way for real estate developments.
> This is wrong. You cannot take someone's land away
> when they have lived there 20, 30, or more years.
> You wish that the white collar criminals who
> orchestrated this could suffer a tiny portion of
> what they have inflicted on other people. Maybe
> they could be shamed out of office and/or not
> elected or re-elected in the first place. People
> must be aware of politics and what is happening in
> their area. Because you could lose your rights
> very quickly if you don't fight for them.


Its perfectly legit if its for public use. There's no other way to amass the land needed for an airport. But there are some states that have claimed eminent domain on behalf of developers. That just fucked.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: Seriously? ()
Date: January 26, 2015 01:50PM

eminent domain Wrote:
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> Its perfectly legit if its for public use. There's
> no other way to amass the land needed for an
> airport. But there are some states that have
> claimed eminent domain on behalf of developers.
> That just fucked.

It's perfectly legit for all sorts of purposes, and always has been. One of the precedents cited it Kelo was an 1890's case where eminent domain was used to take private land and build an aqueduct that brought water to a handful of large private farmers. You've simply fallen hook, line, and sinker for some swill from the right-wing. Probably not the only time that's happened either.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: Put down the pitcher old man ()
Date: January 26, 2015 02:06PM

Seriously? Wrote:
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> eminent domain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Its perfectly legit if its for public use.
> There's
> > no other way to amass the land needed for an
> > airport. But there are some states that have
> > claimed eminent domain on behalf of developers.
> > That just fucked.
>
> It's perfectly legit for all sorts of purposes,
> and always has been. One of the precedents cited
> it Kelo was an 1890's case where eminent domain
> was used to take private land and build an
> aqueduct that brought water to a handful of large
> private farmers. You've simply fallen hook, line,
> and sinker for some swill from the right-wing.
> Probably not the only time that's happened either.


Once again, the senile old Kool Aid drinker sitting in his carport misses the distinction made.

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: are you retarted? ()
Date: January 26, 2015 02:32PM

Seriously? Wrote:
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> eminent domain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Its perfectly legit if its for public use.
> There's
> > no other way to amass the land needed for an
> > airport. But there are some states that have
> > claimed eminent domain on behalf of developers.
> > That just fucked.
>
> It's perfectly legit for all sorts of purposes,
> and always has been. One of the precedents cited
> it Kelo was an 1890's case where eminent domain
> was used to take private land and build an
> aqueduct that brought water to a handful of large
> private farmers. You've simply fallen hook, line,
> and sinker for some swill from the right-wing.
> Probably not the only time that's happened either.


You must have dyslexia or something dumbass. The word DEVELOPERS is in there. You probably believe your favored party always acts in your best interest too

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Re: Houses demolished for Dulles
Posted by: y49PD ()
Date: January 26, 2015 05:57PM

NeLNF Wrote:
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> the county supervisor in Reston was caught using
> public authority in a real-estate scam
>
> they (he and wife) zoned land one way , bought it
> up , then re-zoned it to make it high development
> value
>
> THE ARTICLE IS IN THE WASH POST. they were
> charged and the allegations were proven true.


> despite this fx co gov made sure their fellow
> supervisor GOT ZERO PENALTY - NONE - NEVER SUED -
> NEVER ARRESTED




i probably forgot what sacks of shit there are in the area

oh yea. i didn't.

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