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Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt 50 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 05:27PM

Police just shot someone that would not pull over. Rt 50 & Gramham Rd. He will be taken to hospital

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:09PM

This was crazy! The police came from everywhere in police cars and undercover cars and SUVs. I was traveling west on Rt. 50 and I stopped at the Graham Rd. intersection because I could hear sirens coming from behind me and in front of me. Then several police cars sped up to and turned right in front of me. Then I could hear cars crashing behind. At first, I thought someone had hit me. Then, all of a sudden, I see this black Mercedes sedan come right past me heading west and all the police cars turn around and come back after him. Then I see two SUVs with their fenders hanging off all crashed up come right next to me. So then I proceeded through the intersection thinking they were long gone. They had the perpetrator spread eagle on the asphalt with SWAT team officers and their dogs. One officer came back and told us to cross the median and head east. So I did. I turned right into Loehmann's Plaza and u-turned on the service road to head west again. We finally got back going west on Rt. 50 and got to the stoplight at Jaguar Trail. When all of sudden, an ambulance, evidently with the perpetrator inside and with two police SUV escorts right behind, came flying by.

That was my commute. How was yours?!

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:12PM

I did not hear any shots fired at any point in the chase that I witnessed or after they apprehended him.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt 50 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:18PM

Smartin3 Wrote:
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> I did not hear any shots fired at any point in the
> chase that I witnessed or after they apprehended
> him.


Two shots fired though the windshield. He was hit in the chest & arm.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:21PM

He fled after he was shot or they had silencers.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:27PM

And thanks for the info. I posted it in the comments section of the WP article.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Maclay ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:28PM

Scanner and NBC said there were shots fired

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt.50 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:32PM

Smartin3 Wrote:
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> He fled after he was shot or they had silencers.


He was shot on Gramham Rd. and continued up the road. The cop was going to put out Stop Sticks.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:33PM

Interesting...it seems strange that I would hear the two SUV crashes and not the shots fired.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:35PM

I didn't know anything about stop sticks. I do know there was a cop hauling ass up the service road heading west just before the whole incident.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:36PM

I get it now. He probably was shot before I ever got to Graham Road by the cop that sped by on the service road. Now, it makes more sense. Thanks.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt 50 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:46PM

Smartin3 Wrote:
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> I get it now. He probably was shot before I ever
> got to Graham Road by the cop that sped by on the
> service road. Now, it makes more sense. Thanks.


The two crashes may have happened at the same time as the shots fired.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: T2T ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:50PM

What happened? Didn't the guy pay his bill at the Harvest Moon chinese buffet?

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:50PM

Makes sense.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt. 50 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 06:56PM

T2T Wrote:
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> What happened? Didn't the guy pay his bill at the
> Harvest Moon chinese buffet?


I think he took someones car without permission.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: curious person ()
Date: November 04, 2010 07:08PM

Does anyone know the make and model of the Mercedes? At least that is what they are saying the car is on the news.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Kilton ()
Date: November 04, 2010 07:15PM

Rt 50 Wrote:
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> Police just shot someone that would not pull over.

Good. This should be the rule rather than the exception.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt.50 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 07:18PM

Black Mercedes from Mclean I think, That was all I caught. There was a car jackin in P.W. Co. but I don't think it is the same.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 07:19PM

It looked like a fairly new black sporty sedan Mercedes, but it was moving too fast for me to see what it was exactly. I'm guessing an E-series. It was all side-swiped along the left side.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: OnLooker ()
Date: November 04, 2010 07:25PM

There were 2 bullet holes clearly visible on passenger side window. Vic appears to be an out of shape white male, in his 40's.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 07:37PM

He passed me on my right so I couldn't see his passenger side. So he had already been shot. Thanks for the info.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: November 04, 2010 07:46PM

HEard on 103.5 they used spike strips and multiple FCPD cars were damaged.
Guy stole a Benz, got out of it while being pursued, was shot and got back in it.

Traffic a cluster.


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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: OnLooker ()
Date: November 04, 2010 07:49PM

according to some people, he was only wearing underpants and and sneakers.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 07:58PM

Not true he had on raggedy pants and sneakersr from what I saw.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt 50 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 08:32PM

Was it his wife that called because he took the car he bought for her?

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Date: November 04, 2010 08:43PM

So what. Guy was stealing cars, and stole a cop car. So he got a couple of bullets for his efforts. To hell with him.

I'm sure the WaPo will have you believe he was on his way to choir practice after saving 10 orphans from a fire when a drunk cop decided to light him up after he yielded to 5 nuns crossing the street.

How many police shootings is that this year in FFX? I'm pretty sure it's less than say, oh I don't know, off the top of my head New York, Chicago, LA, Detroit, Miami, Atlanta, Houston, Philly, Boston, I can keep going all day if you need me to.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: trogdor! ()
Date: November 04, 2010 08:48PM

Sounds like he stole a police car too... That was a bad idea.

Note to car thieves and other thugs: Come to Fairfax to pull some GTA and you'll go to prison or go home in a box.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt 50 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 09:07PM

trogdor! Wrote:
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> Sounds like he stole a police car too... That was
> a bad idea.
>
> Note to car thieves and other thugs: Come to
> Fairfax to pull some GTA and you'll go to prison
> or go home in a box.


Was he driving a police car? or a Mercedes at 10 miles per hr.. stolen cop car thing never happened dispacher f-ed up on to hispanic chicks runnin from an crash

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Yahweh ()
Date: November 04, 2010 09:17PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> HEard on 103.5 they used spike strips and multiple
> FCPD cars were damaged.
> Guy stole a Benz, got out of it while being
> pursued, was shot and got back in it.
>
> Traffic a cluster.

I didn't believe it until a regular posted.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt 50 ()
Date: November 04, 2010 09:33PM

I hope he makes it because his kids needs their Dad.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: trogdor! ()
Date: November 04, 2010 09:40PM

Rt 50 Wrote:

> Was he driving a police car? or a Mercedes at 10
> miles per hr.. stolen cop car thing never happened
> dispacher f-ed up on to hispanic chicks runnin
> from an crash


Just going off of what the Post said...which can be risky.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-breaking-news/crime-and-public-safety/police-shooting-in-fairfax.html?hpid=newswell

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Clobbersaurus ()
Date: November 05, 2010 12:18AM

The real question, WAS HE BLACK?

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Spacy ()
Date: November 05, 2010 01:14AM

I had take-out from a restaurant in Loehman's Plaza and the cops had route 50 blocked off, except eastbound from east of Graham Road. I got off 50 early (it was a parking lot for miles) and used a side road to approach, but they wouldn't let me in the plaza to pick it up, and forced me back onto route 50 in the direction I came from. I called the restaurant and they had been wondering why nobody had seemed to come into the area for a while. Now we know why. This was at 8:00 PM.



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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Numnut ()
Date: November 05, 2010 10:03AM

I heard the whole thing going down while I was listening to the scanner.

One more nugget: One of the cops said over the radio that the suspect had been pepper sprayed AND tased. This was just a few minutes before he took two bullets.

Add on grand theft auto, assault of a police officer, felony evade, and likely a dozen other charges, and you have my "Donkey of the Week."

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: November 05, 2010 10:12AM

Good job FFX Cty police. Shoot ALL these fucking criminals.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Snapple ()
Date: November 05, 2010 10:23AM

I wonder if they're going to cover up this one like they usually do.

http://reason.com/archives/2010/06/29/police-blackout

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Numnut ()
Date: November 05, 2010 11:14AM

Snapple Wrote:
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> I wonder if they're going to cover up this one
> like they usually do.
>
> http://reason.com/archives/2010/06/29/police-black
> out


I think in this case the shooting was completely justified. He's driving around like a maniac during rush hour, and near a neighborhood. We're lucky they shot him before he ran over a little kid.

Kudos, good shooting.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Smartin3 ()
Date: November 05, 2010 11:26AM

Definitely justified.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Report ()
Date: November 05, 2010 11:57AM

Police Investigate Pursuit and Shooting
In Falls Church Area

McLean Police District – Police are conducting an investigation following events that took place this afternoon in the Falls Church area.

Police responded to a report of a suspicious person in the 2900 block of Westcott Street in Falls Church shortly after 4:30 p.m. on Thursday, November 4. Upon arrival at the incident an officer approached a man in a Mercedes that police had verified was a stolen vehicle. A physical altercation between the man and the officer took place, the man then fled through the nearby neighborhood. A second officer came to assist the initial officer and joined in the foot pursuit. The man was able to elude officers, running through yards and between homes, looping back toward where the officers had parked. He then got into one of the officers’ cruisers and fled. Officers pursued the man who ended up driving back to the Mercedes; exited the cruiser and jumped back into the Mercedes.

A second pursuit followed. Officers made several attempts to stop the Mercedes using their vehicles, but were unsuccessful. The pursuit continued down Graham Road where the driver encountered stop sticks that an officer had placed at Oakland Street in an attempt to bring the Mercedes to a stop. The driver avoided striking the stop sticks, turned his vehicle and headed back in the direction toward the officer. Shots were fired which struck the driver. The vehicle continued down Graham Road and turned westbound onto Route 50 where it came to a stop. Officers exited their vehicles. They rendered first aid and the man was transported to Inova Fairfax Hospital where he remains in non life-threatening condition.

The investigation is continuing and charges are pending.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt 50 ()
Date: November 05, 2010 04:27PM

UPDATE Police have identify suspect/victim as Joseph Lawrence Michel, age 50. He has been charged with grand Larceny.

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Spacy ()
Date: November 05, 2010 05:52PM

The car was stolen from the block (possibly the house) I lived in for a few years back in the late 70s!

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt 50 ()
Date: November 05, 2010 06:13PM

Spacy Wrote:
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> The car was stolen from the block (possibly the
> house) I lived in for a few years back in the late
> 70s!


What is the street & where did you get that info.??

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Joe B. ()
Date: November 05, 2010 08:28PM

What he is.....Justified shooting or not; FFX Co's newest MEEYINAIRE!!!

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Re: Another Police Shooting
Posted by: Rt 50 Update ()
Date: November 10, 2010 03:51PM

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2010/111010updshooting.htm

I got my son to attach the link because i don't know how.

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